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Anonymous No.2145849 >>2145918 >>2145995 >>2146135 >>2146173 >>2146256 >>2146379 >>2147193 >>2147514 >>2149148 >>2149551 >>2159430 >>2163901 >>2163923 >>2167387 >>2168129 >>2175310
Heroes of Might and Magic
All things HoMM.
1. Post your super cool idea for a faction.
2. Your favourite hero for flavour reasons?
Anonymous No.2145918 >>2146705
>>2145849 (OP)
1.
using homm1 as a base, in addition to the standard
>Farm(Knight), Plains(Barbarian), Forest(Sorceress), Mountain(Warlock)
I'd add a horror themed faction using scraps from unused units from King's Bounty
>Swamp(Witch)
Skeleton, Spider, Werewolf, Vampire, Golem, Giant
Skeletons raised with necromancy, spiders climb over walls, werewolves regenerate, vampires lifesteal+no retal, golem magic immune and they would be more like a frankenstein's monster, giant throws rocks
2. Carlawn


Pretty happy with the Wizard+Necromancer route they went for in homm2 though.
Themes weren't as strong as the original 4, but still good.
I think homm1/2 farm/knight and homm1/2/3 forest/sorceress/rampart are my fav designs in the series.
Tower in homm3 and academy in homm4 are good too.
Anonymous No.2145995 >>2146711 >>2151268
>>2145849 (OP)
I'd like Inferno to be a little more fun than just ugly demons.
Anonymous No.2146135 >>2146169
>>2145849 (OP)
>1. Post your super cool idea for a faction
No thanks, game is fine as it is without butt pirate, space cowboy factions..
Anonymous No.2146169 >>2146381
>>2146135
Wrong.
The game always needed pirates. Multiple scenarios in the original games have pirates in story, but gayass stronghold or castle in their place.
Anonymous No.2146173
>>2145849 (OP)
Sir Christian.
I know Christian's campaign is all "hermetic jokes that amused you when you were 18", but there is a charm to it.
I just like the idea of a goofball dreamer getting himself in wacky adventures and beckoming a bit less of pansy in the process.
Anonymous No.2146256 >>2146383 >>2146596 >>2146764 >>2166730
>>2145849 (OP)
olden era will flop like crazy. Can't wait for it to happen
Anonymous No.2146379 >>2146594 >>2167457
>>2145849 (OP)
>Post your super cool idea for a faction.
But Fortress and Conflux already exist
>Your favourite hero for flavour reasons?
Fafner
You know exactly why
Anonymous No.2146381 >>2146709
>>2146169
We had pirates in 4, they sucked (even if their campaign was easily the best one).
Not my fault Ruskies have a hard-on for PotC and Akela to this day is trying to make another Sea Dogs game. That's on them for having garbage movie taste and masturbating to the same shit for 20 years straight.
Anonymous No.2146383 >>2146494
>>2146256
What I can't wait for will be zoomers defending it, no matter how shit it will be, under the guise of nostalgia for pre-Ubi games (which they never played in the first place, but that's just zoomers for you)
Anonymous No.2146494 >>2146749 >>2151487 >>2168223 >>2177558
>>2146383
I don't think zoomers care about the series at all
Anonymous No.2146594
>>2146379
>Conflux already exist
Holy shit. I didn't know actual women post on 4chan!
Anonymous No.2146596 >>2146604 >>2146764
>>2146256
I really don't know how to feel about it.
It looks like shit.
But they listened to feedback and now it looks less shit.
I don't want them to flop completely if they listen to feedback.
Anonymous No.2146604 >>2146629
>>2146596
>But they listened to feedback and now it looks less shit.
what did they change? It's still uniform 1 hex unit sizes and still everything looks like world of warcraft mixed with league of legends
Anonymous No.2146629 >>2146635 >>2146653
>>2146604
Town screens.
Anonymous No.2146635 >>2146653
>>2146629
town screens are a droplet in an ocean of issues, but good for them i guess
Anonymous No.2146653 >>2146713
>>2146629
>>2146635
didn't homm6 or homm7 also try to skip town screens and then had to backpedal after fans got mad?
Anonymous No.2146705 >>2146761
>>2145918
>>Farm(Knight), Plains(Barbarian), Forest(Sorceress), Mountain(Warlock)
First of all, it's "Castles" and "Hills" (and "Forests" but that's minor).
Second, only the Forests creatures have a proper theme to them because all of them are either straight from folklore or got some minor modernisations (elves and trolls primarily). Castle creatures might have also became the foundation of the Knight's troops in the first Heroes game but they lack a proper faction feel. They're only a faction because they're not what everything else is: normal humans. Hills have a wild mix with the only unifying theme being "they are typically found in the hills or mountains in fantasy". Dungeons is just undead plus demons. Plains creatures are the only ones that are a leftovers camp.
Generally attempting to make a faction out of odds and ends produces rather sad results.
Finally, there are no spiders, werewolves or golems in KB.

Three of the factions in H1 are varying degrees of messed up and H2 inherited quite a lot of that.
Swamp really only works with Fortress in H3.
Anonymous No.2146709 >>2146749
>>2146381
Nature's and Death's campaigns are better. The former in all regards, the latter in terms of story and difficulty (you're just miserable most of the time because you are fighting other undead).
Anonymous No.2146711 >>2146722
>>2145995
I guess you could force a human slave warrior or something.
But other than that?
Uh...
Sexy demon?
Anonymous No.2146713
>>2146653
nobody played those
Anonymous No.2146722 >>2146787
>>2146711
They just shouldn't be a faction. They're the enemy of everything good (and even evil) in the real setting anyway.
Anonymous No.2146749 >>2146757 >>2146777 >>2152848
>>2146494
Zoomers are notoriously contrarian and are currently actively being goodie two shoe morons doing free marketing for Olden Era. Literally NOBODY who played HoMM gives a fuck... but zoomers do, astroturfing it in the process

>>2146709
>I play video games to feel miserable
Weird fetish and can't relate.
Anonymous No.2146757 >>2148261
>>2146749
Death's campaign is fun when you aren't facing undead. So other Death creatures and almost everything else. It's not common but does happen and then you feel like your hero is a poweful necromancer. But you really should invest into at least one other magic school, ideally all three (not having Combat for defence and resistance is the real misery).
Other than that it's great. And Nature's is just great all the way from start to finish. And Orders is very good and definitely better than that of Chaos. Life's campaign is the only comparable to the Chaos one.
Anonymous No.2146761 >>2146765
>>2146705
>First of all, it's "Castles" and "Hills" (and "Forests" but that's minor).
Nope, it was all correct actually
Anonymous No.2146764 >>2146766
>>2146256
yup
>>2146596
artstyle is a death knell. its from inseption a shit game because they missed artstyle. all they need to do is to copy artstyle of homm3 and change it a little. basic units but with fantasy elements and grounded without too much overextenstion. ijnstead its korean mmo artstyle with 6 winger archangels and rail swords and whatever the fuck ridicolous bullshit.
Anonymous No.2146765 >>2146768
>>2146761
I forgot that they changed them in H1 and didn't check its manual. It was about using KB's creatures anyway. Ironic, the very fact of changing the names the way they did goes a long way to explain how H1's factions are a mess.
Anonymous No.2146766
>>2146764
Eh...
You're right.
Anonymous No.2146768 >>2146769
>>2146765
Sucks to be wrong when you're trying to be smug and correct someone, oh well you'll get them next time I'm sure
Anonymous No.2146769 >>2146770 >>2146784
>>2146768
>trying to be smug and correct someone
You've been on 4chan too long if you saw it this way. Shame I've wasted 2 posts on you.
Anonymous No.2146770
>>2146769
Thank you it's very funny
Anonymous No.2146777 >>2148263
>>2146749
>Zoomers are notoriously contrarian and are currently actively being goodie two shoe morons doing free marketing for Olden Era.
I'm pretty sure it's just babel media anon. The homm series is too slow and high IQ for zoomers to care, zoomers play only the "current" games because it's icky and out of fashion to play old ones
Anonymous No.2146784
>>2146769
everyone saw it that way, slink away quietly
Anonymous No.2146787
>>2146722
>They're the enemy of everything good (and even evil) in the real setting anyway
That's exactly why they should be a playable faction.
Anonymous No.2147193 >>2147492 >>2148892
>>2145849 (OP)
>1. Post your super cool idea for a faction.
My super cool idea used to be a Egyptian/Arabian-themed Neutral Sand faction, but someone had already made it for WoG, so I'm out of super cool ideas:
>https://heroes3wog.net/pavilion-town-download/
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I love Sphinx titties.
>2. Your favourite hero for flavour reasons?
For purely flavor reasons? I suppose I always liked Rion's portrait despite his useless (now slightly less useless in HotA) specialty. The rest of heroes I like that might not be top-tier at least have good skills or acceptable specialties.
Anonymous No.2147492
>>2147193
>My super cool idea used to be a Egyptian/Arabian-themed Neutral Sand faction, but someone had already made it for WoG, so I'm out of super cool ideas
You can still have a super cool idea of a desert faction, except with acceptable quality,
Anonymous No.2147514
>>2145849 (OP)
>favourite hero
my nigga GALTHRAN THE ETERNAL BONER feared by tranny hota devs to the point where they removed him from the game
Anonymous No.2148261
>>2146757
Like I've said - I can't relate to your fetish. Are you by chance a Slav? They love to suffer and wallow in that stuff, so that would explain a lot
Anonymous No.2148263
>>2146777
>Implying zoomers care, because they play or plan to play
Nigga, their astroturf is entirely about fake outrage.
Anonymous No.2148330 >>2148354 >>2148859
< Big brain tactics.
Anonymous No.2148354 >>2148368
>>2148330
>fortress is easy, just petrify your enemies
Anonymous No.2148368
>>2148354
Small brain move.
How about let yourself get petrified to make a WALL OF STONE!
Anonymous No.2148859 >>2148912 >>2153329
>>2148330
>starting with tazar
risky move, there's a good chance he'll roll something shit by level 3 and then he's ruined
Anonymous No.2148892
>>2147193
hot
Anonymous No.2148907 >>2148916 >>2149089 >>2151028 >>2151651
Heroes 3 had the best art style.
The music is probably among the best and most memorable, too.
Anonymous No.2148912 >>2148919 >>2148920
>>2148859
there is that risk with every good hero
Anonymous No.2148916 >>2148942
>>2148907
>Heroes 3 had the best art style.
Naeh
>The music is probably among the best and most memorable, too.
You've played it a lot, therefore you remember it better.
It's really nothing special, not sure it would even break into the top 4 in the series.
Anonymous No.2148919
>>2148912
>there is that risk with every good hero
False.
Neela doesn't have that problem, as she is ruined from the get go.
Anonymous No.2148920 >>2153329
>>2148912
Yes but the risk is higher on any hero that starts with one skill in advanced level.
Anonymous No.2148942
>>2148916
The photo-realistic views of HOMM3 are the best town screens in the series. Better than the earlier pixel art and better than the later 3D slop.
Heroes 3 also has the best portraits without a shadow of a doubt.
Anonymous No.2149089 >>2149091 >>2149123
>>2148907
It saddens me to know there's pretty much no town with a similar aesthetic to Rampart.
Anonymous No.2149090
Anonymous No.2149091
>>2149089
in the other games I mean
Anonymous No.2149093 >>2151495
Anonymous No.2149123 >>2149128
>>2149089
Anonymous No.2149128
>>2149123
comfy
Anonymous No.2149148 >>2151044 >>2151424
>>2145849 (OP)
>1. Post your super cool idea for a faction.
My idea is to have a good aligned faction.
Might Hero(Samurai)
Magic Hero(Esper)
Centaur
Dwarf
Elf(like those of Rampart, but they're Japanese)
Pegasi Rider(like those of rampart, but their boobs are bigger)
Kodama
Kirin
Dragon
Anonymous No.2149287
>1. Post your super cool idea for a faction.
found that I had theorycrafted in excel about this

Unified Enroth(continent) faction in homm3 logic
wip name: Palace

Necromancers ousted.
purple dragon from warlocks
orcs and ogres from barbarians, Maximus and Tyro makes for fitting specialists
Dwarves and elves from sorceress
Maybe the knight/cavalier/champion could upgrade to a unicorn knight for extra sorc reference

Knights(named Paladin or Warlord to avoid overlapping names with Castle) covering the Might heroes, Sorceresses Magic. Considered sprinkling in other heroes, but probably not necessary, maybe a wizard or two.

Maybe a special building that lets them 'upgrade' Stronghold orcs and Rampart dwarves to Palace type of Orcs and Dwarves, like Gelu does with elves and marksmen.


Could maybe switch some units around.
Purple dragon is too iconic, elves fit well because of Sir Ector, same with ogres and orcs due to Tyro and Maximus. These Ogres wouldn't upgrade to ogre mages though like stronghold.
Dwarves could be ranged and Elves could be melee to make it more different from rampart, or just skip dwarves entirely.
Anonymous No.2149551
>>2145849 (OP)
>Post your super cool idea for a faction.
I've thought about an ancient gear faction for some time. I think it would be pretty cool.
Anonymous No.2149872 >>2149900 >>2151268
Here's my super cool town idea.
Rather obvious theme, I think.
Pretty cool, huh?
Anonymous No.2149900 >>2149905
>>2149872
I have good news for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd0EyUol-ec
Anonymous No.2149905
>>2149900
Oh.
I had no idea.
Cool.
But can we make it... maybe 50% less gay?
Anonymous No.2151028 >>2163310
>>2148907
Is it even possible to replicate?
Low resoultion and pixely-grainy look caused by it is part of the look.
Making low-res game like this would be a BOLD artistic decision nowadays.
Anonymous No.2151044 >>2151092 >>2151424 >>2153328
>>2149148
So it's Rampart but a couple units got replaced by weeb stuff. I would rather have a completely new town that's based on Japan.
Anonymous No.2151092
>>2151044
I think there's enough difference for people not to confuse the two.
Anonymous No.2151180
Wouldn't work within lore as on the planet Enroth of course, but warcraft factions kinda have a nice setup you can slot into homm3 creature setups.

wc2 Orc
Wc3 Orc
and Wow Orc
could all be quite different too
Anonymous No.2151268 >>2151421
>>2149872
fear and luck debuffs, poison + entangle to the squid types. Yellow sign delayed kill infection to advanced fanatics

you can do better on the last half

>>2145995
Inflicting fire damage/turns. Exploding gogs on death. succubi with charm attack instead of more stupid demons. Devils are still trash and idk what they need.
Anonymous No.2151421 >>2151443
>>2151268
Horror/Terror needs to stay. It's important to keep some connection to Might & Magic games.
But man, it does look goofy. It needs some changes
Anonymous No.2151424
>>2151044
>>2149148
Real-life-culture inspired town don't really work.
In all town the real-life-cultures aesthetics are a secondary minor addition to the fantasy theme.
Anonymous No.2151430 >>2151448 >>2151651 >>2163310
Can we all appriciate how simple yet brilliant the TOWER aesthetics are?
Broad orientalism... but on snow! And it works!
Also, stronghold...
Let's give barbarians adobe houses, spanish colonial style. Sure, why not. And it works too!
Anonymous No.2151443
>>2151421
III's Dungeon doesn't stay true to one theme imo. They're half underground half Greek mythos. Extra flyers and the best magic without the nerfs you feel as Tower.

Do a Cult class that focuses on status effects and weirdness. Unraveling the opposition being the focus over preservation of units. Keep them cartoony 3d rather than hyper grimdark.

I like the factions to play differently rather than being all the same under a different paint job.
Anonymous No.2151448 >>2151651
>>2151430
I do think it's the best change going from homm2 to homm3.
Really the addition of genies does so much for me.

I don't hate homm2 wizard, it is interesting seeing like a mix of frontier western badlands, but with medieval castles, but the creature setup feels a bit weak in terms of implied lore.
Like it's the Mage/Archmage and their golems, and then a bunch of bullshit.
Sure the Roc is thematic for the terrain, the halflings because Gandalf+Hobbit connection, and the pig is like a whatever creature you could see paired with the halflings, and then giants/titans who are cool, but they're not really adding to the sapient core of the faction.
It's like wizards and random friends.
For Tower it's more of an alliance of genies+mages+gremlins. Naturally magical genies makes for a neat ally of wizards, as does mechanically inclined gremlins for the golem-making wizards.
Gargoyle is pretty good as another construct.
Titan is less cool than in homm2 imo, and I wouldn't want it gone, but it also doesn't feel as important to me. Naga kind of the same, it's a neat creature, but it doesn't have as much personality as the genies do.
Not having Genies there would almost feel like not having Dwarves/Elves for Rampart.

I like the snow.
I think a cracked wasteland still could've worked.
I feel like an inhospitable terrain kinda helps the feel with the golem factory, like that wouldn't look cool if the wizard town was in some grassland, or even a swamp.
Anonymous No.2151487
>>2146494
This. Compare to Undertale or Fnaf.
Anonymous No.2151495
>>2149093
Kek
Anonymous No.2151651
>>2151430
>>2151448
homm2 gets me on the hand drawn sprite aesthetics all the way, I don't care for prerender art unlike >>2148907
but homm3 blows homm2 out of the water on faction design until we get to conflux.
Anonymous No.2151865
Anonymous No.2152724 >>2152725 >>2152751 >>2153256
hello homm friends, should i get homm3 on gog or steam? are there any differences?
Anonymous No.2152725
>>2152724
Gog. The steam version is a terrible "hd" port that doesn't even include the two expansions.
Anonymous No.2152751
>>2152724
Only gog, only ever buy the "complete" edition
Anonymous No.2152848 >>2152854
>>2146749
>Zoomers are notoriously contrarian
Says who? This is a stereotype you just made up.
>astroturfing it in the process
Nobody talks about HoMM except people being nostalgic about III. What universe do you live in?
Anonymous No.2152854
>>2152848
>>you always disagree
>nu uh
Anonymous No.2153256 >>2167418
>>2152724
As anons said, Complete version on GOG. In addition, I highly recommend HD+ with SoD_SP and this setup >>2041225
It brings some bugfixes and QoL changes without touching any of the game balance and content. Do NOT get HotA (yet), it's a different experience from vanilla and you should get used to the original game first.
Anonymous No.2153328
>>2151044
... the fuck you think Rampart is already based on?
Anonymous No.2153329 >>2153330
>>2148859
>>2148920
Ask me how I know you don't know how skills are rolled and from what pool
Anonymous No.2153330 >>2153525 >>2153634 >>2170732
>>2153329
If you're such an expert please explain.
Anonymous No.2153525 >>2153569
>>2153330
Nta, but that means Tazar is most likely to get Expert skill on first level-up, followed with equal parts of Logistics, Artillery, Pathfinding and Navigation (in that fucking order, because they are listed as such in game code.
Meaning you face a simple choice: if you get Logistics, you pick that instantly, if you get anything else, you pick Expert Armorer, and on next level, you have 66% chance to get Logistics (100% if you disabled Navigation, given you've posted HotA faggotry)
What is the real hindrance of playing with Beastmasters is that you have very fucking high chance for Leadership and Learning, and that can easily bite you in the ass down the line. But first two levels are a breeze
Anonymous No.2153569
>>2153525
>Nta, but that means Tazar is most likely to get Expert skill on first level-up
bruh
Anonymous No.2153634 >>2153653
>>2153330
Which of these would you say are unwanted for Tazar?

Ideally you'd want these?
Armorer
Offense
Tactics
Wisdom
Earth Magic
Air Magic
Logistics
+what? Diplomacy? I heard it was nerfed badly, so maybe intelligence.
If I'm way off, just tell me which 8 skills.
Anonymous No.2153653
>>2153634
if it's hota maybe first aid, extra hp should work well with tazar's specialty
Anonymous No.2154877 >>2154942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x4K9KYIUFM
well at least their marketing is good
Anonymous No.2154942
>>2154877
The marketing must be good, because now I consider buying it out of pity.
Anonymous No.2159430 >>2160914 >>2160930
>>2145849 (OP)
>2. Your favourite hero for flavour reasons?
No one beats Solmyr in cool factor.
Anonymous No.2160914 >>2164013
>>2159430
A bit of a mainstream normie choice, but a valid one Nonetheless.
Anonymous No.2160930
>>2159430
>ZAP, muthafucka
Anonymous No.2163310 >>2163315 >>2164075
>>2151028
>>2151430
These are some funny HOMM3 (Polish?) apus.
Anonymous No.2163315 >>2163346
>>2163310
>*kurwa's internally*
Anonymous No.2163346
>>2163315
Mud :)
Anonymous No.2163350
Mud :) o>
Anonymous No.2163901
>>2145849 (OP)
>2. Your favourite hero for flavour reasons?
Man I love when my t1 unit bites harder than cerberus
Anonymous No.2163909 >>2163912 >>2163956
where should a total newfag start in this series? I want to pick up something on GoG or emulate but I don't know what to play first or what I need alongside it.
Anonymous No.2163912
>>2163909
>where should a total newfag start in this series?
HoMM 2-3 3DO (if you really into retro games might as well try old Might&Magic RPG series (I personally like Xeen duology for it's pixel art)). Try Chronicles if you really fell in love with HoMM 3, later proceede to mods.
HoMM 4 for kino campaign and OST, but meh execution of anything else.
HoMM 5 is only noteworthy Ubisoft game of the series (SkillWheel mod is musthave). Basically refined (game-design) amalgation of 3 and 4 along with original ideas.
Anonymous No.2163923 >>2163951
>>2145849 (OP)
/pol/ tells me Heroes 3 is redpilled on the Jews
Anonymous No.2163951 >>2163972
>>2163923
I think you meant Arcanum?
Anonymous No.2163956 >>2163959 >>2163967 >>2164556 >>2166869
>>2163909
1. Get Heroes III Complete on GoG.
2. DO NOT buy the gayass "HD" edition.
3. Dunno what's next. The original campaign I guess.
SoD campaign is the best one design-wise, but it is not for beginners. Oh, except for Crag Hack missions, these SUCK and are frustrating for everyone.

After playing around get Horn of the Abyss mod. It's arguably better than some official expansions. One of very few fan-made expansions that feel "right". The music, the visuals, the design. Nothing really stands out as unofficial.
Anonymous No.2163959
>>2163956
PS:
Horn of the Abyss factory campaign is for mighty autists only.
Once you know the basics you might try some gimmick single scenarios. "Talent Shortage" is a good one if you want to learn how to abuse game mechanics.
Anonymous No.2163967
>>2163956
>Oh, except for Crag Hack missions, these SUCK and are frustrating for everyone.
All what you need to know about people who suggests to start from HoM III
Anonymous No.2163972
>>2163951
No, definitely Heroes 3. There was a guy posting it every day for a while. I do know about Arcanum too though.
Anonymous No.2163985 >>2163988
Crag hack's chronicles are perfectly designed to introduce someone to the game. but they're their own thing separate from HommIII and fairly obscure.
Anonymous No.2163988 >>2164247
>>2163985
You are confusing Crag Hack with Tarnum - Gary Stue of the series.
I never actually played them. But some gaming magazine released them on rectangular CDs.
Pretty cool.
Anonymous No.2164013
>>2160914
>your choice is subpar only because too many people agree with it
Oh shut up. I know we're in home of contrarians but when something is good it's good no matter how popular it is.
Anonymous No.2164065
What do you call an indecisive strategy game
HMM
Anonymous No.2164075
>>2163310
mmm elven booba
Anonymous No.2164247
>>2163988
>Pretty cool.
Except it was campaign packs which were sold for the price of the game
Anonymous No.2164556
>>2163956
>After playing around get Horn of the Abyss mod. It's arguably better than some official expansions. One of very few fan-made expansions that feel "right". The music, the visuals, the design. Nothing really stands out as unofficial.
The Cove from HotA was actually added as expansion to the official Homm board game. Which is probably as official as mod can get.
Anonymous No.2166730
>>2146256
Their publicity/community women are super retarded and bad at their jobs, bad communication and failing to build real hype and get the word out to people who aren't already fans of the series.
Anonymous No.2166869 >>2167008
>>2163956
>After playing around get Horn of the Abyss mod
You were so fucking close to making a good post
Anonymous No.2166908 >>2166912 >>2167195
Do I play Dark Messiah of Might & Magic after beating the HOMM 5 campaign or do I play Hammers of Fate and Tribes of the East first? I'm guessing Dark Messiah based on release date, but I'm not sure.
Anonymous No.2166912 >>2166914
>>2166908
Just play tribes of the east first.
It’s better than the base game and hammers of fate. Much better in fact.
Anonymous No.2166914
>>2166912
Too late, I just beat the HOMM 5 campaign.
Anonymous No.2167008
>>2166869
Horn of the Abyss > Armageddon's Blade
Anonymous No.2167195
>>2166908
From what I recall Dark Messiah's story chronological takes place after Homm5's expansions if that what you care about.
Anonymous No.2167349 >>2167492 >>2167497 >>2167809
Demo for Olden Era is out on Steam.
Anonymous No.2167387 >>2167394 >>2167418 >>2167438
>>2145849 (OP)
Just bought some of the HoMM on GoG, I'm completely new to the series. Is there anything I should know beforehand or just play the game first with no warning? Thanks Anons
Anonymous No.2167394 >>2167413
>>2167387
nah i recommend just going into the campaign blind, enjoy anon, feel free to ask any specific questions you have
Anonymous No.2167413
>>2167394
Thank you anon, will do!
Anonymous No.2167418 >>2167425
>>2167387
You can take this into consideration for H3 >>2153256
Some QoL changes without touching the game content or balance.
Anonymous No.2167425
>>2167418
I'll make sure to add this for H3. Thanks Anon.
Anonymous No.2167438 >>2167455 >>2167496
>>2167387
This game could be the definition of easy to play hard to master. Even a child can beat ai at 80% but custom chinese maps at 200% maps would filter majority of this thread.
Anonymous No.2167455
>>2167438
Very tempted to look into this...
Anonymous No.2167457
>>2146379
>You know exactly why
no idea.
Anonymous No.2167492
>>2167349
aesthetically it's unpleasant and poorly optimized.
but what's there gameplay wise is fun so far.
Anonymous No.2167496
>>2167438
>associating with the chinese in any way form or fashion.

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Anonymous No.2167497 >>2167503
>>2167349
>Minimum requirements
>NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 (4 GB) / AMD® Radeon™ RX 5500 XT (4 GB) / Intel® Arc™ A580 (8 GB)
Anonymous No.2167503 >>2167505
>>2167497
I'm playing it on a windows 10 office computer i got for 40 dollars back in 2020. But like i said it's unoptimized, i am getting maybe 20fps. doesn't bother me much though i grew up with low powered computers.
Anonymous No.2167505 >>2167638
>>2167503
do you have an integrated graphics card?
Anonymous No.2167535
I would like to announce that Olden Era priestesses have gigantic dump truck asses which automatically bumps this game up by at least 3 points on the out-of-10 scale.
Anonymous No.2167596 >>2167885
What the hell is Focus Charge or Focus Point? I have spell and ability that increase it but there is not tooltip for it.
Anonymous No.2167638
>>2167505
yep, it's fine for almost everything i play. i even get by with playing noita with it until i reach jungle then it gets bad. but i mostly play indie games and retro games so it just werks
Anonymous No.2167809 >>2167874 >>2167875
>>2167349
I played it. The artstyle is meh, some things look okay, most of it looks like most other boring nu-fantasy shit. I feel like it was clearly designed to be a mobile game from the ui to the controls to the graphics. Not to say it wasn't any fun, but a lot of what makes homm 3(and 4, yes I'm a homm4fag) great is it's presentation, which I'm not to fond of in this game.
Anonymous No.2167874 >>2168090
>>2167809
I agree, the aesthetics suck, but maybe it'll be moddable or something idk. you can change the fog of war to be void which is a little better than the awful default
Anonymous No.2167875 >>2167878
>>2167809
yeah, the art is what turning a lot of people off, which is a shame because this is the best HoMM-like yet. they've done an amazing job at the gameplay, Ubisoft could never
Anonymous No.2167878 >>2168135
>>2167875
yeah it's mostly great but man it's hard to get past the coat of paint on it...
Anonymous No.2167882 >>2167887 >>2168042
The battlefield is smaller and the AI in this game is too smart. I'm used to kiting in HoMM3 where the AI is dumb, but in this game, they don't get baited by your 1-stack, so it's super hard to take any fight without losses. Because of this, Necro is just going to be the most OP faction again
Anonymous No.2167884 >>2167886 >>2168089
So this new HOMM game is going to be a renaissance just like AoE2DE
Right?
Anonymous No.2167885
>>2167596
Anonymous No.2167886
>>2167884
I don't think the homm3 autists will move on from hota to this game tbdesu
Anonymous No.2167887 >>2167890
>>2167882
I like the smaller battlefield, it allows for more tactics. I'm used to it because i've been playing a lot of Eador Genesis: New Horizons .
Anonymous No.2167890 >>2167893
>>2167887
Wouldn't a smaller battlefield generally allow for fewer tactics than a larger one due to limited maneuver
Anonymous No.2167893
>>2167890
only if you had more troops. with less troops you want a smaller battlefield because if you have a massive one then your ability to block troops with your own troops or spells that create walls ect is greatly diminished which reduces your available tactical choices.
Anonymous No.2168042
>>2167882
If all that matters in a turn based game is one-stack bait gimmicks then the games legacy isn't with saving
Anonymous No.2168089 >>2168230
>>2167884
HotA is the HOMM renaissance retard
olden era is essentially HOMM6/7, we pretend it doesn't exist
Anonymous No.2168090 >>2168093
>>2167874
>I agree, the aesthetics suck, but maybe it'll be moddable or something idk
at best you'll just get a new and different game entirely. You'd have to mod it by rebuilding it from scratch, it aint happening
Anonymous No.2168093 >>2168110
>>2168090
>You'd have to mod it by rebuilding it from scratch, it aint happening
>*looks at fheroes2 and vcmi*
yeah nah i think we'll be good
Anonymous No.2168110 >>2168545
>>2168093
are you seriously implying olden era will get a following large enough to fill a single mcdonalds, let alone create an entire dedicated autistic slav community that can achieve something like VCMI with olden era?
Anonymous No.2168129
>>2145849 (OP)
>Your favourite hero for flavour reasons
Sandro
Anonymous No.2168135
>>2167878
It really is. I can at least power through the aesthetics because holy shit the gameplay isn't fucking ass like 6 and 7. I feel like I'm actually enjoying the god damned thing again.
Anonymous No.2168222 >>2168457 >>2168494
I found a funny bug in olden era. If your hero is flying, there are portals on the map and your hero is out of movement points you can tell him to reach any object beyond the portal and he will interact with it even if he can't actually reach it. You can just grab all the artifacts/resources and flag whatever mines you can see with no movement points.
Anonymous No.2168223
>>2146494
Zoomers hate the game. Random skills offered on level up require them to actually make situational choices and they do not get what makes a unit good or bad.
Anonymous No.2168230 >>2170615
>>2168089
At least play the demo you turd. It was made by russian autists and it shows in the best way possible when you start playing. First official game in the series I enjoyed since 5 and it's just the demo.
Anonymous No.2168238 >>2168240 >>2168547
Any way to turn off auto combat in the demo?
It's ruining my immersion.
Anonymous No.2168240 >>2168251
>>2168238
you control the buttons you press
Anonymous No.2168251 >>2168348
>>2168240
I know I can decide to play the fight myself, just annoyed at getting served a result how the battle would play out if the ai could do it before I can do it.
Anonymous No.2168348 >>2168368
>>2168251
Why is it bad though? Otherwise you can't know if your strategy is any better or worse than baseline.
Anonymous No.2168368
>>2168348
Why would I want to see the outcome of the battle before I play it? I don't find that fun.
Anonymous No.2168457
>>2168222
After a bit of testing I realised you don't even need flying, portals are just broken on their own.
Anonymous No.2168494
>>2168222
Sometimes you can just recruit units infinitely in the schism unique building (they still cost gold but I could buy 10k skeletons)
Anonymous No.2168506 >>2168578 >>2168679 >>2175665
Unit icons suck, I can't tell the upgrades apart at a glance
Anonymous No.2168545 >>2168668
>>2168110
it remains to be seen. at the very least i do enjoy the drafting a hero and army and doing quick battles thing. That is one mode that i'll probably buy the game for even though the aesthetic sucks.
Anonymous No.2168547 >>2168561
>>2168238
i couldn't find one either, i get you i'm right there with you. I don't want it telling me the expected result of a battle or how hard or easy a battle is going to be by mousing over it.
Anonymous No.2168561 >>2168575
>>2168547
i guess they just follow the "industry" standard. In TW you are only supposed to fight if you don't agree with the autobattle result and iirc that's also how it works in HotA
Anonymous No.2168575
>>2168561
having the computer battle for you is having the computer play half the game for you.
Anonymous No.2168578
>>2168506
Yeah, the icons should be close-ups or a profile shot of the unit
Anonymous No.2168668 >>2168940
>>2168545
there isnt a single thing that sucks about homm2 or 3
Anonymous No.2168679
>>2168506
Put in some feedback about it via the bug button in the upper left corner. Can put in info about bugs/feedback/other stuff. Hopefully it can be changed/fixed.
Anonymous No.2168684 >>2168789
Is the pathfinding tutorial even possible? giving the hero skeletons instead of swordsmen doesn't seem help his movement and the boots are too far to fetch
Anonymous No.2168789 >>2168819
>>2168684
>Is the pathfinding tutorial even possible?
yeah, took me 2 tries but i did it
Anonymous No.2168790 >>2168987
I played the demo a bit.
Towwn screen look better in motion.
But audiovisually the game doesn't really "click". Lacks SOVL.
...
I'm honestly not sure what's wrong. I need to think about it.
Anonymous No.2168819 >>2168825
>>2168789
how?
Anonymous No.2168825 >>2168828
>>2168819
>grab both skeletons (discard swordsmen) from the town
>meet with the other hero and give him a skelly (discard his swordsmen too)
>fetch the boots with the other hero
>go for the checkpoint
Anonymous No.2168828 >>2168832 >>2168836
>>2168825
that's all I could think of but no matter how I went about this it wasn't enough
Anonymous No.2168832 >>2168846
>>2168828
only move the bottom guy 1 hex diagonally up before giving him a skelly
Anonymous No.2168836 >>2168846 >>2170880
>>2168828
here, i made a screenshot for you
Anonymous No.2168846
>>2168832
>>2168836
yeah I was moving bottom hero too much
Anonymous No.2168940
>>2168668
you're not wrong i'm just tired of them
Anonymous No.2168987 >>2169018
>>2168790
>But audiovisually the game doesn't really "click". Lacks SOVL.
Like the horse clops?
I only watched some streams and thought maybe something was off with the movement sound
Anonymous No.2169018
>>2168987
the music lacks oomph, it's hardly even noticable
Anonymous No.2169022 >>2169125
trve might town not even planned? all magic sissies?
Anonymous No.2169023
Why do heroes forget where they were moving to last turn
Anonymous No.2169125
>>2169022
Dungeon is pretty damn good at playing Might. Helps if you get the Ultimate to double your Might hero's Attack. Spells are good and easy to access so no reason not to use some good ones (Twilight, Favorable Winds, Blessing, etc) that do not rely on Spellpower.
Anonymous No.2169361 >>2169407 >>2170217 >>2170370
Are we calling this HOE or HoMMOE
Anonymous No.2169407
>>2169361
i like HOE.
i really like the draft mode
Anonymous No.2170217
>>2169361
homm8
Anonymous No.2170370
>>2169361
I like HoMMOE but "HoMM7 Part 2 Powered by AI" also works
Anonymous No.2170422 >>2170426
What's the most interesting HOMM3 campaign? In terms of everything but mechanics and balance I love 2 was more than 3, but it's really hard to ignore how 3 plays.
Bonus points if you get to play as either the Dungeon faction or the Wizards for the duration of it as they're the ones I like the most, Undead are good too and the Swamp and Barbarians were alright. Fuck Inferno.
Anonymous No.2170426 >>2170641
>>2170422
sitting at the campaign screen listening to the music until you pass out
Anonymous No.2170615 >>2170616
>>2168230
It's made by russian scammers who did nothing but one trashy game.
Anonymous No.2170616
>>2170615
>It's made by russian scammers who did nothing but one trashy game.
UBISOFT IS GUILTY OF A NUMBER OF CRIMES:
1. Unfrozen discord child groomer and Russian draft dodger Denis Fedorov gets his hentai OCs "canonized" before Ubisoft sells this shit to Hooded Horse for a kickback, so Hooded Horse cuck CEO Tim Bender and his CCP bug hotwife can fully pivot to CCP funded gacha data farming the Asian market. I hope you like all your Heroes to be anime school girls. Sorry Slavs your time is done.
2. Hooded Horse is running a shitty gaslight (aka lying) campaign to get discord troons to buy this shit. See: the cat thing with the dildo on its forehead. Kittendildo, soon to be a Funko Pop exclusive Q1 2026!
3. They are begging you to call them faggots so they can blame this controlled demolition of the Might and Magic IP all on TOXIC COMMUNITY, in fact they already have. They are also literally shit eating faggots.
4. Unfrozen is not a studio, it's an agglomeration of disposable temps. Unfrozen CEO Denis Federov should be dying in Ukraine for Russia instead of commissioning tentacle rape porn OCs in troon color schemes.
5. Ubisoft never changes even if their fist is up Hooded Horse's ass for now. If you aren't old enough to understand how awful Ubisoft is, then you were probably molested by their employees on various discord servers. If you find yourself defending Ubisoft without financial compensation, please seek professional help immediately.
Anonymous No.2170638 >>2177759
Should I install the expansions even if I don't intend to play their respective campaigns?
>The game received two expansion packs (...) with additional campaigns, heroes and neutral creatures.
>Official patches maintained feature and balancing parity between all aforementioned releases.
The original has the latest patch, so maybe I won't lose anything other than the worse main menu theme from Winds of War.
Anonymous No.2170641 >>2170648
>>2170426
I'm still hoping for a real answer btw, what's the most fun HOMM3 campaign? I'm doing the starter Erathia campaign now but ehhhh, and I'm not that big of a fan of the 3 version of Castle towns.
Anonymous No.2170648
>>2170641
If you like Dungeon you'll enjoy Dragon's Blood from AB expansion
you fight with a fuckload of dragons using a fuckload of dragons, what's not to love
Anonymous No.2170712 >>2171613
How do I permanently make this message go away when I launch HOMM3? I've tried both options, the game runs fine either way, it's the GOG offline version.
Anonymous No.2170732 >>2171657
>>2153330
Is it possible to savescum what you're offered in any capacity? I'd like to get Earth magic.
Anonymous No.2170859 >>2170886 >>2170888
I guess that one anon that posted all the bad stuff about the game having his post deleted is proof some of the devs are looking in on this thread.
Anonymous No.2170880
>>2168836
Man i can't wait for somebody to mod this game to be less ugly.
Anonymous No.2170886
>>2170859
>post deleted is proof some of the devs are looking
Well, it does give away a clue when duplicate threads stay up, reported ones in fact. We currently have three homm threads, two explicitly OE and this one with OE discussion inevasibly flowing in.
Anonymous No.2170888
>>2170859
?
Anonymous No.2170905 >>2170919 >>2170937 >>2171613
Anonymous No.2170911 >>2170919
kek
Anonymous No.2170919 >>2170943
>>2170905
>>2170911
Buy an ad faggot you have two threads for your scam
Anonymous No.2170937
>>2170905
Seems good.
What's wrong?
Anonymous No.2170943
>>2170919
Fuck off back to /v/
Anonymous No.2171347 >>2172732 >>2172774
Happy 30th
Anonymous No.2171613
>>2170905
What? It's wisdom.
Idk what extra mp skill is called if there is one. Mysticism restores mana in % now though.

>>2170712
I've never seen this. Something is wrong with your install or windows security settings if it always pops up.
Anonymous No.2171657
>>2170732
No, in order to "reroll" the next level up selection for a hero, you would need to either learn or unlearn a skill from somewhere, reloading a save has 0 effect, because the "seed" is set in stone already after the previous level up (or upon hiring, if level 1), and only modifying the hero's skills makes it recalculate
Anonymous No.2172732
>>2171347
lmfao
Anonymous No.2172772 >>2172774 >>2172920 >>2172928
Congratulations, HoMM. You now have your own resident rabid schizo, just like BG3.
Anonymous No.2172774 >>2172777
>>2172772
did you hype all the tentacle faggot shit in BG3 too? Bear rape enthusiast? Go to hell faggot, see:>>2171347
Anonymous No.2172777 >>2172779
>>2172774
I'm curious which type of mental illness specifically you possess.
Anonymous No.2172779
>>2172777
this is funny coming from a sodomite
Anonymous No.2172920
>>2172772
w always had one schizo who kept raging about hota, now there's 2 of them
Anonymous No.2172928
>>2172772
newfag spotted. Every single game on this board has at least one resident schizo. I'm avoiding brood war threads because the resident schizo is posting tournament spoilers. He's going to post a new thread to spoil the finals result too.
Anonymous No.2173010 >>2173020 >>2173026 >>2175183
Can't wait till the full reales comes out.
Anonymous No.2173020 >>2173022
>>2173010
>can't break 25k players on 30th anniversary
>somehow a million wishlists
lmfao remember CCP and Ubishit would never lie to you
Anonymous No.2173022 >>2173023
>>2173020
holy fucking shit you discord trannies patrol every thread on chan.
Anonymous No.2173023
>>2173022
like you do with the ubishit ads? fuck off faggot, no more fake numbers no more lies
Anonymous No.2173026 >>2173032
>>2173010
I'm less enthusiastic about the game after playing the demo than i was before... I think i'll just stick with HoMM 2 and 3. I guess i'm happy for the people who enjoy it, maybe someday this will lead to a better game than OE simply by reviving the franchise.
Anonymous No.2173032
>>2173026
>maybe someday this will lead to a better game than OE simply by reviving the franchise.
complete collapse of Ubishit/Tencent fraud, JVC buys the IP for pennies, 10000 years of peace
Anonymous No.2173184 >>2173271
wai pp hard?

also- kinda cluster fuck visually, can't see shit from all the shit in game
Anonymous No.2173271
>>2173184
certainly will get better once your eyes get more used to it but yeah the artstyle and unit designs make it hard to distinguish specific units
Anonymous No.2175183
>>2173010
Anonymous No.2175310
>>2145849 (OP)
Not really a faction ideia but why they never tried terraforming like disciples? They went for town conversions but never thought about changing the overworld.
Anonymous No.2175665
>>2168506
As long as they don't do the modern """"UX design"""" thing and replace it with an ugly stencil with a number next to it
Anonymous No.2176892 >>2177052 >>2177523
Was going to try the demo for the newest might and magic game. Never played one before. What is generally the draw to them? What is the objective? It seems actually kind of overwhelming because how do you decide what you should be doing first? or not doing?
Anonymous No.2177052 >>2177291
>>2176892
>What is generally the draw to them?
It's cool to build up your cities, level your heroes, get cool artifacts and foster an unstoppable army
>What is the objective?
Depends on the map, but often boils down to defeating all enemy heroes and taking all their towns. Some maps try to tell a story through gameplay, mostly in the campaign and standalone scenarios (those are my favourites) but none of such maps are in the demo.
>It seems actually kind of overwhelming because how do you decide what you should be doing first?
Generally you want to get some unit production buildings, assemble an army, hand it to one hero and go kill neutral stacks for xp and loot. As to what you should be building it's very simple - whatever the hell you think looks cool. Want to commandeer dragons? Go for it. Want an army of skeletons? Do it. Want to turtle in the corner and cast spells all fight? You can do that too. There are many heroes and each of them specialises in something, and that something can nudge you towards building something specific. See whatever speaks to you.
The best thing about these games is they they can be played by anyone, they are by design very approachable. So unless you crank the difficulty, play a scenario deliberately stacked against you or play pvp you should be doing just fine fucking around and trying shit.
Anonymous No.2177291 >>2177386 >>2177396
>>2177052
Hows the innate challenge of the game at normal difficulty? I hear there is some really broken things you can do but that may just be by virtue of it being a demo.
Anonymous No.2177386
>>2177291
there's an AI opponent or a few doing the same thing as you and they want your blood
Anonymous No.2177396 >>2177443 >>2177530
>>2177291
As someone who used to play these games and knew how they worked, my first game fucking around in the demo normal AI showed up with a way stringer army and annihilated me. Steam forums were full of people complaining it's too hard the first few days. You will die.
Anonymous No.2177443
>>2177396
>You will die.
Anonymous No.2177523
>>2176892
Its mostly homm3 with some parts from 4 and 5, and some additional stuff of its own, the artstyle is kinda meh but ive played way worse, the main problem is the unit designs combined with the artstyle and unit model scale make it often hard to recognize the exact unit you're looking at
Anonymous No.2177530
>>2177396
Unironically the AI does worse at higher difficulties because the neutral stacks become tough to autoresolve without losing half your army
Anonymous No.2177558
>>2146494
I'm playing 5 right now it feels like a strategy rpg with extra steps and gay rougelike elements. It's alright.
Anonymous No.2177732 >>2177752
Should you use neutral magics in the demo? Apparently the AI never uses neutral magics like town portal etc.
Anonymous No.2177752
>>2177732
take it to the two ad threads you posted already faggot
Anonymous No.2177759
>>2170638
I don't see why not.
Equilibris will restore original music.
Anonymous No.2178018 >>2178057
Are summoning rites bugged? I've used them multiple times with abyssal envoys and the teleporting unit but nothing happens. Does it not work on a certain number of units or what?
Anonymous No.2178057 >>2178082
>>2178018
Explain the steps you took.
Anonymous No.2178082 >>2178095
>>2178057
>Friendly creature dies
>Use summoning rite on corpse
>ability is cast, corpse is consumed but no unit is summoned
Usually it's 1-10 in a unit but shouldn't it summon a stack regardless? Have done it with abyssal envoy, the t1 unit and the shots, same result.
Anonymous No.2178095 >>2178103
>>2178082
Did the dead stack have enough hp for even a single creature to be summoned?
Anonymous No.2178103 >>2178106
>>2178095
Probably not, thought that might be it but it doesn't say shit about needing a certain amount, only that it would have a percentage of the corpse hp.
Anonymous No.2178106
>>2178103
Creatures can only be summoned at full hp. If 50% of the dead stacks hp doesn't equal the hp of at least one of the creatures you are trying to summon, there will be no summons.