Thread 2208776

DAY 2
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3450310/Europa_Universalis_V/

NEW FORUM POST
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-87-5th-of-november.1867301/

first

wide as an ocean, shallow as a pond
going back to total war

>>2208757
a toast!

>>2208783
wide as an ocean, deep as an ocean
We won.

Lads we are actualy playing eu5!

I genuinely don't understand how the markets work. How do I know what to build to make the most money?

>>2208757
>>2208784
image limit hit me so I will use the image I wanted to attach initially

It's actually not bad wow

>form Europa
>dynasty name changes to Universalis
VGH Johan, you've done it again...

>>2208789
This, sometimes my economy swells and I get rich. In fact it did it while I was typing this post so I had to pause so I can try to find out why.

>>2208794
let them occupy aquitaine, just defend calais and shit, pick off small armies until you get a good warscore, then whitepeace

>>2208757
>>2208790
My main criticisms right now are that:
1. The gameplay is dry as fuck 90% of the time
2. The parliament system is fucked and needs some amount of rework.
3. If they're going to lock non-euros out of certain standing armies by tech, they should be more generous about giving out custom units. The maya get fucked over compared to the aztecs because they can't build temples unless they flip nahua. Not surprising that they get less content on release and I think the devs picked their priorities correctly, I'm just autistic.

WRT point 2 especially - the core concept is fine, but the 5 year time limit is totally arbitrary and locking basically any wargoal that would justify annexation behind it is dumb. The restriction on which legislation you can put forwards is also dumb, and it's super dumb that it can exist as a mechanic and then you can totally bypass it to grant/remove privilages by spending stab-mana to change laws and revoke/grant privilages anyway.
It feels like it should be a mechanic that you constantly have to engage with whenever you do anything rather than a button you click every 5 years - similar to CK2's council voting. Rather than parliament magically deciding to invent a claim for you, you get a claim via spying and then you need the buy in of the estates in order to declare war.
Then either you get their approval, or you get fucked on stability and massively piss them off for overruling you, leading to antagonism up to the point of maybe even joining your enemies if you declare a war the nobility/clergy disapprove of.
It would also skip the stupid fucking parlay of legislation that you get where a vote to build roads is actually a vote to build roads and magically claim a province and raise taxes and grant a privilege because otherwise nothing happens for 5 years.

AI ottomans moved their capital to Constantinople and pretty much killed themselves

seems that the cabinet action to convert pops only lets you promote religions in your group
any clue how to encourage growth of heathen pops?
I just want my Christian state in Asia

>>2208791
it's not BAD, but will it still feel interesting after 2-3 playthroughs? the economy loop of Vicky 3 got repetitive real fast, bit worried EU5 will be similar albeit not as egregious

>>2208801
outstanding move

>>2208799
>whitepeace
You can easily get 50% warscore, cancel their guarantees of Scotland and take their money

>>2208776 (OP)
I'm so fucking tempted to buy it. I've never bought a game on release before, never pre-ordered and I know paradoxs horrible reputation, but I've been following this game for so long and deep down I know it's garbage but I still really want to see.

we are so back

>>2208801
If you want achievements you force the AI to always be retarded in DHEs, btw

>>2208803
vic3 is the most boring paradox game ever. eu5 is way more complex and fun.

>will it still feel interesting after 2-3 playthroughs
depends on the person. same can be said for eu4. mods should help bring more replayability

>>2208807
It's literally exactly what it looks like. If you want to buy it you'll probably like it

>>2208807
pirate it and if you like it, buy it

So, to get my provinces cored, I need to accept their culture? Like if I'm the Ottomans and conquering Greek lands, I'd need to accept Greek culture? And how exactly do cores compare to EU4 here? I need to core to be able to get more control, or can I achieve that without coring and just with infrastructure?

Are scriptoriums the real money-makers in the early game? They seem to be the sole source for books, which seem to be in very high demand, until the invention of the printing press

>>2208807
theres a torrent floating around out there

I really tried to enjoy this but it's just so fucking SLOW and im constantly forced to build another of the 999 buildings for some minimal gain, this isn't gameplay, this is just torture.

>>2208826
>slow
good
>muh building
automate that shit. real men dont micromanage the economy

>>2208807
Get it, but the new patch is coming tomorrow so maybe wait for that

>>2208820
yeah accept their culture or convert them to yours but that seems to take forever early on

>>2208822
Depends on the area but they're usually a good bet. In my experience they're not the best but they're usually in the the top 5 returns on investment.

look at this absolute swagger of a young man

>>2208822
I think your market just has a book shortage, it should stabilize over time and become less profitable

>>2208796
The automated markets always tries to maximize value, but it seems to leave out supplies that are in high demand but low supply at home. I.e Castile is always lacking in fruits, gold, and fine clothing, but the AI doesn’t import any usually because it’s not as profitable I guess. How should I approach this to keep supply up to par?

which is the best culture to genocide early on?

>>2208801
That actually make a lot of sense on why they do nothing in timelapses

>>2208828
Slow as in the fucking ticks take YEARS, I cannot play because the month takes 10-15 seconds.
>just automate it
on one hand sure but on the other its the classic >player will optimize to get the best possible result even if it's obnoxiously annoying, leading to them quitting the game rather than settling for the second best thing
paraphrased the phenomena obviously.

What is the quickest easiest way to learn this game?

>>2208845
the tutorials

>>2208829
I'll do that

>>2208837
there's a button that lets you 'lock' the import so automated stuff cant touch it - I guess you just grab what you need, lock it, and let AI fuck with the rest.
man I fucking hate this game

>>2208835
Most markets seem to have a book shortage, though I'm only 10 years into this game

>>2208846
lol

>>2208833
What are your top five investment portfolio in this game? I don’t know what I’m doing and just building things that say it’ll give money in places the RGOs are.

>>2208845
just play
failing is ok, go ironman so you will have to follow through with your decisions

>>2208849
That makes sense I suppose, coming as a CK3 tard, it’s a lot to take in. Fucking hate CK3 now so I’m more than happy to jump into a new EU. Didn’t really like EU4 even as I was getting the hang of it, but this one seems like a breath of fresh air for me.

I had to destroy 6 banks because they became unprofitable

>>2208803
EU5 has EU4s good military system and diplomacy system to fall back on

>>2208842
>Kil'd by several accidents

>>2208856
anti-semetic, you should have minted

>>2208854
Nta but I put autosaves on every 6 months thinking it is probably enough to savescum. But then I’m having to live with the consequences of my actions 2 years ago and it’s ruining me. It’s pretty fun ngl.

>>2208845
Pick a slightly isolated country close to a major market and automate basically everything
Turn the AI off one step at a time as you feel familiar with what you've already learned.

I'd say Naples, Bulgaria or an Irish/North African Minor would all be good starts

MOVING IN WITH PHASE 2
OVER

are the conditions for winning the 100 years war completely incomprehensible to anyone else or am i just sleep deprived

>>2208866
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

Why are there so many impassable islands? I think the most annoying one is Chagos.

>>2208870
no it's fine
either you need to boot out England from France + consolidate your vassal land under the French crown, or as England you need to own at least 130 locations in France

The game is a crashy mess, not even pirated either

>>2208878
havent crashed once

Hey, guys. Johan here.
Any changes you guys want in the next patch?

>>2208870
You either need to fuck off from mainland or own 130 locations on the mainland or form an union with france.

>>2208392
I have reached an age and income in which the opportunity cost of constantly torrenting new versions of a game is higher than simply buying it and letting steam update the thing.

>>2208614
Damnit, all that normie-unfriendly parts that you described are actually making me want to buy the game even more. The only things stopping me now are the bugs and the unoptimized performance that >>2208405 mentioned and others have described

>>2208881
add lgbt characters

Anyone got any idea why I can't add this region to a colonial charter?

Is there a blank world map yet? I want to blob but I dont want to play the game

>>2208881
Add an expel the jews button like in CK2

>>2208878
I played 120 years without a crash

>>2208884
Wrong thread, oh well.

finally the real voices of gsg are being heard

>>2208871
and what happens if he gets excommunicated?

>>2208881
add poland

>>2208879
This for me too. And my specs are below the minimum.

>>2208801
>orthodoxy
in my game they also converted, it will probably get fixed at some point

So with the proximity mechanic. Is colonization useless now?

>>2208896
Nothing

Cultural assimilation is way too strong, 100k welsh pops turned english in just 5 years.

>>2208812
that actually happened
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Albania_(medieval)

>>2208895
>shitters being filtered because they actually got challenged for once instead

>>2208903
If you want to keep the lands for yourself then yes.

>>2208908
It's a fake reddit post.

welsh was always more of a fashion statement

>>2208881
Add a music player plox

>>2208884
>constantly torrenting new versions of a game
hasnt been a thing in forever for paradox games

>>2208911
add mission trees now

>>2208905
B B B BASED. Sorry Johnny Bach from Llanŵrdrwywyn, you WILL speak English.

>>2208911
>it's faaaaaake
https://www.reddit.com/r/EU5/comments/1op2jzu/comment/nn9ud31/?context=3

We won.

>>2208807
pirate it and if you like it, keep pirating it

>>2208783
>going back to total war
bait is supposed to be subtle

If Johan adds mission trees I will personally 1605 sitges

I don't understand combat. I'm Ottomans and I have a levy of 9000. It goes up against a Bulgarian level of 8000 and gets absolutely crushed. Like the morale just ticks away in a few seconds while theirs only drops to about 95% of its max.

>>2208920
Yes it's a real post in reddit but it's a fake reddit post. The substance isn't about a real issue posted by a real person.

Like if I said that EU5 summons succubus to fuck you if you buy 666 premium editions. That's a real line I just wrote but that doesn't mean it's true.

>>2208932
their army is probably alot higher quality, more cav, etc

try assigning a general

>>2208932
terrain is really important, did you attack into mountains?

I actually really like the slow pace. As Milan, after hours of playing I'm still in 1360s and every small italian city I conquer feels like a real gain

ITS OUT

>>2208932
Can be a quality difference like >>2208938 said, plate knights for example only take 50% shock and morale damage. Another thing could be an imbalanced army layout i.e. you only have a few guys on one flank and they get rolled immediately by the enemy.

>>2208776 (OP)
Ok what the actual fuck... My consort is.. a rebel????? it says hes a rebellious prince, but on the rebels tab there's not even such a tab. Is he a rebel in mecklenburg or what? his character tab doesn't say anything. Why isn't this info on his character page? AAAAARGGH

My specs are better than the recommended, other than ram, I only have 16gb. Will that matter?

>>2208947
You may be able to launch the game, good luck having chrome open though lmao

>>2208946
>on the rebels tab there's not even such a tab
such a faction*

>>2208947
I'm running it fine (with paper map) with 16 ram

>>2208946
what a bitch of a wife

>>2208946
>anon accidentally downloaded the shoujo mod

Bit of a nitpick but how did they not think of adding a shift+click/ctrl+click to 10% change or max/min sliders
Seems like such a minor thing that previous games have had

someone post a screen of the AI having done something
i take it no one's had the guts to play on very hard setting

>Perm starts the game with a nearly perfect ruler again
Is this a historical thing or is someone on the dev team just doing this for a laugh

>>2208783
>going back to total war
Bahahahahaha

>>2208932
personally i only take offensive battles if i out number them or if i know my quality/morale/discipline/tactics are higher
never attack into bad terrain, and always try to take defensive battles
AI really likes to sit on your forts and if you walk into your own fort while they are there, it still counts as a defensive battle for you which is big

>>2208947
16 works for me fine, but pirate it and try it out
No reason to buy shit blind

can i make cute fuckable girls in this game or is playing the sims limited to ck3

>>2208952
Good. I was going to play paper map mode anyways.

it's not that bad...

this isn't ck3 you can't fuck anybody
now please go back to your gacha hentai game containment thread in /vg/

>>2208969
My internet has been crap lately so I'm not even sure if I can torrent. I'm talking 5mbps and I live in the UK.

>>2208970
A lot of the girls are quite pretty and I'm sure the genetic system is still present. You sadly can't seduce everyone yet though.

>>2208964
Pretty sure we've only got records of Permian rulers from around mid 1400s, so EU4 just barely made the cut for a historic ruler, but even then it's not like anything more than their name and maybe one detail was known
Or that's what I remember of when I looked it up once upon a time years ago

>>2208960
I am playing in Ireland right now (started as Clandeboye and formed Ulster so far, it's about 1370) and the Irish minors are almost all gone, most of the island is split between me, Clanricarde and the Pale.
Scotland has declared on me with "force tributary" twice but never actually landed an army leading to white peace both times. England is getting ready to do the same thing and I fear they will be much more aggressive.

>>2208964
Finno-Ugric THUGS are about to buckbreak Rusnigs and Mongols

>>2208896
free CB

>>2208888
could someone with 2000 hours answer this please :(

>>2208888
>already in 1500s
how

>>2208992
Just have a PC with components that are from after the 2010s?

Fitgirl is up

>doing good in 100 year war
>war score is bugged and not going up after any battle
Fucking hell

>>2208994
i have a great pc i just dont play that fast. you must be clicking away every event and just living on 5 speed

>>2208977
Once they add some extra character interactions, then there will be no reason at all to ever go back to CK3

Is the intent to be deccing mostly no CB wars with Parliament-issued conquest CBs mixed in, or is the intent for conquest to be slow enough that it's ideal to only use those Parliament-issued CBs?

>>2208921
71% on all languages though because of russian and chinese reviews

>>2208992
speed 5 afk baby

I managed to explore and settle on a remote island, but how do I actually get it to do something? The settlements just say "The building cannot function if the location does not have market access" but I'm pretty sure it does have market access given that it's apparently exporting sugar?

!!

>>2209019
I wish we lived in more enlightened times

>>2208970
>>2208977
I genuinely think this game would benefit from loading it with certain CK3 mechanics (not all of them but some) given it already has CK3 lite systems in it
Intrigue stuff like murder plots, activities with temporary regency (like your leader going on a pilgrimage to increase opinion with the head of religion), imprisonment and ransoming, and wards and wardens content would especially make good DLC. The skeleton of these systems already exists, like regencies and your leader commanding an army and being able to die in battle.

>>2209019
That's it, I'm dead

erm

so annexing vassals isnt a thing in this game

>>2208964
Having "Roderick" as the dynasty name should tip you off he's not historical.

where's the timelapse button?
>>2209029
it is, right click on vassal and start annexation

>>2209029
but it is?

>>2209024
You can assassinate characters. Another interesting thing I found is there is a dynasty view too where you could potentially even see back in history. I found historical rulers by clicking back through the dead parents of the ruler too.

>>2209029
Wdym?

>>2209033
>>2209032
>>2209036

>>2209039
skill issue

1444 mod dropping when bros

>>2209003
Pretty much
Unsurprisingly not much happens in the new world. I've basically just been expanding maize RGOs for 200 years

So I think I fucked up. I went to a war and won, but my professional soldiers were depleted, but the manpower pool was really small (like 350) and I had like 500 soldiers. So needless to say, my manpower is zero and my solders are replenishing slow af. How can I raise manpower to prevent this from happening in the future?

>>2209048
manpower isnt worth anything in the start. its all levies

>>2209048
build more army buildings (your early economy will struggle to support this)

>>2208944
Feel bad for this guy, going from 1 layer of hell to another hoping it'll be better.

How do I turn off construction automation? I went into the buildings tab and turned off automate construction and automate production and the fucking game just started building a market village without any input from me. This shit is annoying.

>>2209049
>>2209050
What should I do myself to keep morale up then since it’s all levies?

nani

>>2209048
it doesn't matter
you probably have like 10k levies and 500 professional soldiers
until you start going professional army full time manpower is irrelevant

>>2209054
It's content creators like him that ruined Total war

>>2209056
Your estates have their own funds and can build stuff on their own if they’re influential enough.

>>2209046
>maize

>>2209057
church estate policies and spiritualism

>>2209056
One of the tabs in the top right corner where agenda is has all the automation toggles

>>2209062
Ohhh, you're right. It's one of the nobile factions building shit.

>>2209068
That's good to know. Looks like everything is turned off. I only let automation touch my military maintenance.

Wtf

So building hospitals in big nations is just a complete waste of time right?

>>2209074
Imagine what could have been if NovGODrov united Russia instead of M*scovy

>>2209072
>nobile
post pics

>>2209077
i used to do that in eu4, might try it after i'm done with my england run

inb4 2nd day patch fixes the game

>>2209077
imagine what couldve been of carthage united the mediterranean instead of r*me

>>2209075
Yes

I think I might start an UK->Asia colonization game to make some cute hafus

How do you deal with privateers? Patrolling seems to do nothing

There's still no patch? All the countries I want to play are non-functional because of shit like broken claim throne cb.

this shit makes so much more sense than having standing armies of like 20k stacks in the 15th century
what were they thinking with eu4 lmao

>black death barely touches france
>fucks england up bad
>black death ends
>france occupying every province in england

>>2208808
barf

>>2209091
see: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-87-5th-of-november.1867301/

Omfg its so fucking retardeded
>if you colonize a neighboring province normally it takes 10000 years, gold and resources (which you might not even have and then nothing is moving but you are spending gold)
>ooooooor you can give your council an order to encourage migration in that region beforehand, wait for 1 month until they send 1000 people (if its a relatively uninhabited region), THEN create a colony charter and colonize it in the next month instantly..

>>2209064
I swear to god these fuckers eat 10x their body weight in corn each day

>>2209094
As it should have happened otl

>>2209098
i wish they didnt send workers tho
what the fuck

>>2209092
>what were they thinking with eu4 lmao
making an EU for the retards who started playing Paradox games with CK2

how do I lower inflation
I'm not minting anything but number go up anyways

My parliament is refusing to let me form a town for free and it is annoying. Now I have to save up.

playing japan in MP and letting my european friends colonize me haha ....

>>2208944
What is wrong with the total war community that he thinks that paradox players are welcoming and open minded?

??

>a lot of people talking about parliament mechanics
is everyone playing england or does everyone have parliaments?

haven't bought the game yet, is there any good lets plays or streams or whatever of someone playing the Golden Horde or another "army-based country"?

>>2209108
do you produce too much silver/gold?

>>2209114
everyone has parliaments

forgive me yaweh, for i have sinned

>>2209114
Everyone has a parliament. The just go by different names per country, but it’s all essentially an estates-general meeting

give me a fucking blank map

>>2209123
This brings a tear to Johan’s eye

>>2209123
nubile swedish virgins are currently headed to your location

Has ANYONE had an artist produce a work of art?

>>2209132
no

what do you guys currently have your cabinet members set to do

How do I get more jews in prague?
The number keeps going down

>>2209136
integrate province and develop capital, but idk if that's optimal or even good. at least integration should be optimal, but it's been decades and it hasn't finished yet... should've just made more vassal friends

>>2209140
Do unaccepted pops even grow?

>>2209140
idk my banking empire hasn't had a single jew, so it hasn't been running optimally.
they are all staffed by italian burgers

>>2209132
you need to commission art
otherwise he just gives you random events for some bonuses

Are you able to kill certain populations or kick them out or anything?

>>2209148
Tbh wops back then outjewed even the actual Jews

>>2209151
you 'encourage them to leave' peacfully.

>unpause
>in 6 months i get a disaster and everyone around me declares me a rival
this is my 1st campaign as well KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS

>>2209150
It is really nice how you can take prestige reducing decisions even when you have none.

>>2209165
pick disastrous nation, get disasters

>>2209165
try playing an easy start like Bohemia or Holland

>>2209165
Simple solution: don’t be a troglodyte byzaboo.

>>2209165
Lore accurate Byzantium

Any Timmy runs going on?

This shit will be amazing if they can fix the AI. tons of potential

>>2209112
got taken over by GW fanboys aka braindead globohomo faggots

>>2209171
>>2209170
>>2209169
>>2209168
my fucking ruler died and the throne went to a fuckin woman

into the trash this whole campaign bye byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

HOW THE FUCK DO I GET PRESTIGE
JUST LET ME GET TO 22.5 AND DISMANTLE THIS SHITTY MARKET ALREADY

>>2209182
Cringe
Irene, my beloved!

>>2209182
>Irene Palaiologina (fl. 1310), illegitimate daughter of Andronikos II Palaiologos, wife of John II Doukas of Epirus
uh oh illegitimate child melty

What did my banker family's income mean by this

>leader wont fucking die
>not gonna get to have charles IV
lame

>1st phase of hundred years war as eternal anglo
>lose ground on mainland france because i dont know what the fuck am i doing
>france gets cocky and tries to invade england, let them
>crush their navy, wipe them home
>they have about 4k levies to my 29k but they are still overwhelmingly strong due to vassal
>go to french diplomacy screen
>all of their vassals are disloyal because france has no armies and they refuse to fight
god i fucking love this game already

>>2209132
YES, didn't even know I had an artist. He made "The sword of Viborg", playing as sweden. maybe they are tied to time and place unless you commission?

i wanted to restart anyway. im gonna no cb ottomans in the first month and fund my roads with their war reps then deal with the serbs.

>>2209182
she's literally based though

>>2209182
Now to marry her off to a TVRK

How can I set a law so my white pops females can only marry African slaves?

nice meme surname

by the way, does anyone know how to see fucking cores? i cant see this shit anywhere on my UI and i just found out england has cores near calais which belong to france

Can't wait to colonize Little St James and migrate my Ashkenazi noble pops there.

>>2209182
God the things I'd do for a girl who looks like Maria of Alania

>>2209205
Gzergorsz..

anyone i can watch that isnt a faggot youtuber nigger who played the game for 1000000 hrs after the game's been out for less than 24hrs

Does Xorme AI change anything?

>>2209208
How do you select certain pops to send to colonies?

>>2209211
please dont be mean to him

>>2209211
didn't these guys have early access for 2 months
anyway, you could watch budgetmonk i guess. he's back now for eu5

>>2209217
no, i want to be meaner to him

there is nothing worse than youtuber faggots who get to play the game for 100s of hours in their little creator communities, theorycraft the game and then by day 2 the game is out it's been solved. literal kankerfags.

>press play
>decide to get something to eat
>6 hours have passed
GODhan did it again....

>>2209206
Integration

>>2209162
How ?

How many favors to bring an ally to a conquest war

>>2209220
nice, guy looks up my alley

>>2209236
i'm sure a lot of guys like to look up your alley

>1355
>London population: 36k
>Paris Population: 150k+

>>2209246
yes england was a shithole

>>2209211
>>2209221
>>2209236
>>2209238
he is moldovan

>>2209246
Well France was on par with unified Russia all the way until 1800s when they decided to stop breeding.

So is research costing me anything other than the time it takes to research something? Is there a resource it depletes the way tech did in EU4?

>>2209252
doesnt seem so

>>2209182
damn, the byzantian rose

>>2209246
>england 3M
>france 14M

how do i divorce my wife

>>2209252
nope, the cost is opportunity cost

>>2209257
ask the pope about it

strocking my pope rn

Anyone know any good guides I can follow? I've already watched a few and have tried playing as Holland and Castile, but I still feel like I've only learned bits and pieces and keep restarting. I wanna try Hungary next but I can't find any good guides.

i cant find shit and because half the shit doesnt have hotkeys i double cant find shit

also are all the map modes just shit? i used to just sit in the diplomatic or w/e mapmode in eu4 that showed like billion things out of every country at a glance.

>>2209257
buy a beat up 70's Dodge Challenger

>>2209262
red hawk taught me to play eu4 but hes just making slop spam for eu5 now

>>2209261
>I wanna try Hungary next but I can't find any good guides.
The game has a tutorial-esque section which gives you suggestions on how to play Hungary, if you start as them. Basically tells you to build jewelry guild and earn a ton of cash from them.

>>2209268
>>2209261

>>2206051
>Huh guise my computer shut down while I was playing. Very spoopy.
Are you by chance playing a pirated copy? Because this just happened to me too and I remembered this post. I'm scared bros...

deserved, gas all piratefags

The master volume bar doesn't work correctly. You have to wiggle it around every now and again.

>>2209271
I know that, but I wanna know what are some good starting moves to do before unpausing. Plus, I'm I wanna better learn how to manage my economy and trade instead of just automating it.

Is there a production building for beeswax? There's one for Wool and Fruit but seems I dont have one for beeswax, searching the production tab gives me nothing

broke the game

Does anyone have a good idea of the sort of order of operations for buildings? I know that building marketplaces quickly is absolutely critical because you need them for trades, but it also seems like roads are extremely important for proximity and increasing your crown authority so your nation isn't a perpetual cuck state. I can't tell whether or not roads first or marketplaces first is actually the more stable long-term option. Roads are expensive as shit so they're a really costly prospect if they don't wind up giving as much as you'd want in return.

eu5 kind of bores me. Maybe I'll wait for an expansion that adds horde mechanics.

>Engage in a battle
>Wipe out everything but the enemy's right flank
>Our left flank guys just stand there like "well, we're not on the right side, so I guess we'll just watch the centre fight"
Why is this game so utter shit?

>>2209283
LOGIC
says candles, so maybe church buildings???

is there any downside to just taxing the fuck out of peasants

>>2209132
yes, going broke as Milan from all the commissions and artists

>>2209274
look into event viewer and look into what caused it?

Why are my PUs not getting called in, even though I have this law passed?

What happens if you make an heir take vows? Does that remove him from the succession?

>>2209300
they are called but they can decline, need the Assured law to force them

What's the best way to increase population growth? Trying to get greenland to grow

>>2209300
Maybe they just hate you and don't accept the call to arms?

>>2209300
it means they get called in, they can still refuse. You need assured if you want them to always join.

>>2209299
It was a hard reset, like the screen instantly went black like the motherboard's power was cut. No logs

>>2209246
the french revolution and the napoleonic wars make more sense when you find out that france during the period had either 1/4th or 1/5th of europes total population in it

>>2209282
>what are some good starting moves to do before unpausing
I mean you're pretty safe overall, Naples is strong and has your dynasty you can ally them easily

>>2209312
>You need assured if you want them to always join.
Well that's stupid, time to waste 5 prestige and 5 legitimacy.

>>2209246
England was an irrelevant shithole before they looted 40 trillion dollars from India

>>2209321
>was

>>2209314
it should still have a power event log at least. anyway i'd run a deep scan overnight just in case lmao.

where did you DL your game? if it was 1337 or rin it should be safe. never just google shit and i assume you didnt do that.

i can't imagine playing this if i never played vic3 or imperator

>>2209246
I don't know if it was at game start but post black death in my game London was like #3 or 4 by population in ingerlans

>>2209321
This. It was only the sheer genetic superiority of the British race that kept them so relevant throughout the ages and into the modern era.

What's the general consensus on eu5 so far? Have been out of the loop with paradox games for a while but eu4 used to be my favorite autism simulator with over 2000 hours played. From what I remember it used to be better to wait a few years for these games to get content.

>>2209305
yeah they basically become a monk

>>2209333
It's basically nothing like EU4, thank Christ. Please kill yourself for enjoying EU4 btw.

How tf do I change the designated heir

>>2209333
its good

>>2209336
Don't, she's married to the Dutch heir and you get Holland as a free ally when she inherits

>>2209333
It's basically eu4 without mana

>>2209333
it doesn't feel like it's lacking features on release which is nice, for example china has their entire celestial mechanic without having to wait for a dlc
the thing is that it's not very EU4-ish, they combined shit from almost every other paradox game into this and it feels like i'm playing imperator+vic with a europa skin

>>2209333
It's Victoria and EU and Imperator all at once and it fucking rocks because I play all of those
EU4 only NEETs are on suicide watch

>>2209336
What kind of dogshit female equality are they running over there in the Lowlands?

>>2209339
I chose to marry her to some local noble, I have holland as fiefdom anyways. The designation doesnt carry over to your personal unions though, meaning you lose them all on the rulers death

>>2209333
"what if eu4, vic3, and imperator had a baby?" is what this game feels like

Does anyone truly understand the economic shit, or are we all just automating it to some extent?

>>2209333
If you ever wanted a more complicated eu4 combined with vic2, then this is probably the best it can get. It’s got flaws, like the UI, but it’s a great autism simulator. Beware: it filters brainlets.

>Pike & shot in Cairo
>Printing press in fucking Trebizond
Probably shouldn't have kept dynamic institution spawning on...

>>2209340
dope that is pretty much what i wanted i guess.
>>2209347
>>2209344
>>2209341
>>2209350
have not played either of those games but I might check this out actually, thanks

>>2209300
I hate this screen because you have to mouse over the options to actually see what they do and the AI constantly calls for votes to change the law

>>2209345
She historically became the ruler because all her brothers died, but it seems Paradox 'forced' her succession, even when her brothers are still alive. Probably to push the Low Countries towards a possible consolidation?

>>2209326
>where did you DL your game?
1337x magnet from fitgirl-repacks.site
At this point I assume it was a really bad gpu driver bug or something. It hasn't happened again

>>2209333
It's leagues above EU4 at launch. I think they could add a load of flavor and give more estate interactions, but it's great in general. There's a lot of minor hiccups but to give some idea, I'd say it's way more polished than current Vic 3.

>>2209333
Imagine EU1 but like 4 iterations down the line of development over 25 years

>>2209349
i automated all the yellow shit instantly. all i did in eu4 was click markets that made number go big, then sort by biggest number gained and put my mana into it this shit is way more convoluted.

>>2209349
On the contrary, I think you don't truly understand trade if you're not automating that shit. Bitch, you're not microing that if you're sane.

>>2209333
The game lacks replay value and for the most part soul. If you are into idle games then this may be a game for you because it requires that sort of autistic enjoyment of numbers going up being the reward in off itself. If you are looking for a video game where you do stuff and the stuff you do mattering then this isn't one for you

>>2209363
>stuff you do mattering then this isn't one for you
wat

>>2209364
You heard me

>>2208776 (OP)
The EU 5 steam forums are full of fake anti wokes and fake critics of the game false flagging by posting retarded takes to make dissenters look bad.

Probably has entire threads with nothing but shills controlling the thesis, antithesis and synthesis too.

>>2209357
in that case its unrelated to the crack since i use the same crack and its just the steamapi emulator all cracked steam games use, and whatever it did would happen to you even if you paypigged the game.

Cultural conversion is a bit too easy
I completely cleansed a province of northumbrians in like a year.
I know the souf is superior but this is a bit much. The obvious issue is that it's an absolute number which makes obliterating tiny minorities easy.

How does exploration work?
>western sahara, 2 provinces
>10 gold a month
>for 300 months
This can't be right can it?

>>2209367
steam forums are more chuddified than /v/ nowadays, it's nothing unusual

>>2209371
>exploring the sahara desert wouldnt be expensive

>>2209371
Check era modifiers for era III

>>2209370
Without that the game would perform even worse.

>>2209370
ye its really easy to get rid of residual minorities

i purged all the sami from norway in like 20 years

so what is the consequence of giving everyone county privilege?

>spend 15 hours fully understanding things
>realize that its just waiting around most of the time

I feel as if there is all these complicated mechanics that don't actually matter that much. Like I shouldnt have even bothered to understand why I should be doing something, its just the correct thing to do.

>>2209333
good game, horrible UI almost ruins it though

>>2209363
>The game lacks replay value
nigger it was released yesterday

>only son is 15 years 6 months
>die
>durr hooks and cod succession war we want your 40 year old childless aunt to be queen
>decades long disaster filled with shit events even after I forced her to become a nun
Am I playing CK3?
Everyone can have their own opinions about the core game systems but the "content" is pure ASS. Unbalanced, buggy, unpolished, I'd rather they released the game with no flavor than this shit.

>Claim throne CB on enemy
>No option for forcing them into a union, but for some reason the option to force their allies into a union is present
This a bug or something? Claimed throne on Burgundy but for some reason the option to form a union with them in the peace treaty isn't present but I can force Austria into one instead.

Do we think mods will be able to fix the UI? It seems like a pretty deep design issue with menus hidden in menus.

I got bored figuring out the economy and automated it all.

>>2209389
grim...

Having a lot of lumber seems like a massive strategic advantage, you can turn 50 gold constructions into 30 gold just by flooding the market with lumber

>>2209363
thats a lot of words just to say the AI is bad

>>2209393
if CK3 is anything to go by, no.

The game is pretty good so far. it needs a bit of polishing. it's complexity and slowness is its strength. eu4 felt like a board game. I wanted it to be more complex and more involved than just spending Mana points and moving tubes around on a tiny map

>>2209393
the tooltips are more frustrating for me
so much information is in tooltips that they even have nested tooltips which then necessitates the locking mechanism
when you want to look at something not in a tooltip you have to move your cursor away to prevent a random tooltip from blocking it
I just want my comfy Vicky 2 spreadsheets man

okay, spy network does help with sieges like in eu4

>>2208881
native waifu universalis support

I finally got the parliament to give me a town. Honestly seems like something you want to restart for first session in future games as lowly nations. I immediately used money I had saved up to build buildings that were now unlocked. The first I built was a slave market. However, it just sucked up all the Burghers and there were none left for my marketplace more didn't generate either. Slave markets are useless when you can't trade. I had built it because I wanted to see if it'd let me increase my population. But I had to delete it so my marketplace works. At least that will make me some money.

Game is too much like victoria, I hate the mass amount of buildings hidden behind difficult to find menus, I knew about roads but it took me a solid 10 minutes just to figure out where to build them.

>>2209363
Weirdly I felt more engaged with shit in EUiv than here micromanaging trade goods and dealing with these ugly nested menus and sliders. And thats even with the crusader kings character stuff they went with for rulers.

How is casting spells going to work in Anbennar though

>>2209411
Please PLEASE kill yourself my friend

i NEED his tutorial videos NOW

>>2209413
Hopefully through another obtuse menu system that makes it frustrating to use.

>>2209416
Based, being a wizard should be hard work

If what they did with imperator is any indication, a lot of weird UI and design choices will be fixed within a year.

>>2209410
i literally learned it in 5 minutes with the tutorial

>>2209419
Maybe have a combination of hard to discern runes with no labels you have to press in order

>>2209392
Claim Throne is bugged. Paradox said on the forums that they're aware of it.

>>2209410
Vicky 2 building is easy though because factories are at the state level so you can plan them completely in the industry tab
RGOs and infrastructure are seen on the map (which is much mire readable than EU5's map) and by clicking on provinces. They are usually mass built at the state level too

>>2209426
There is a production menu to manage that shit

>>2209420
So every paradox game ever when they release 2.0?

>>2209424
that unfortunate

>>2209410
I dislike how many building slots there are in eu5. its like a never ending mass production of buildings that you need to stay on top of, but if you just automate it, are you even playing the game?

So do I just expand all RGO's and profitable factories to get my economy going? I built mainly roads early and struggled with increasing my crown power and I feel rather poor after 100 years...

>>2209431
play at 3 speed and chill

>>2209426
>EU5's map
Am I the only one who hates the EU5 map? It starts doing that tilt thing way too soon. It needs to stay flat long and tilt only when you zoom in more. It feels wrong. Going flat map only feels weird too when you go to war. I keep switching between the two depending on whether or not I’m at war.

>>2209392
It's a bug, the peace option to claim their throne straight up doesn't appear if they have no allies on their side

>>2209428
Yeah and it's unreadable shit compared to the factory screen in V2

>>2209424
I've done nothing but play and sleep ever since the release but I'd really like to stop for a while. The game has so many glaring issues that are going to be fixed with patches and mods soon.
The worst part is that the game goes by so slowly, I'm really not looking forward to restarting my campaign and speedfiving for 100 years.

>>2209434
you can turn off the "auto tilt" in the settings

>>2209432
My understanding is that roads are really important because it increases control and profit, but that doesn’t matter if you build a road to nowhere. You need to build stuff in the places the roads go to.

>>2209432
you need to be aware of how many workers there. its very much a vicky kind of mechanic and I hate it.

>>2209432
Yes, that try to get your trade advantage as high as possible in your market and the markets nearby

>>2209400
It's not just the AI (though the AI is bad too). It's the fact that every run is fundamentally the same in much deeper level than EU4, countries lack flavor and soul on country to country level but also on a region to region level. It's the fact that to get to the "good part" you need to run trough 100 years of increasingly tedious early game over and over again. It's the fact that most nothing has any character. It's how you need to do obnoxious amount of clicking to have an impact which grows exponentially with country size. It's the fact that you can't really customize the run you are doing in meaningful way such as idea groups etc. etc.

>>2209411
That's because it is more engaging. Each click is goes way further in 4 than it does in 5. Decisions matter lot more there. Lot of people in these threads operate on very seether based logic where they first determine if they "ought to" like something. Like people have decided that EU4 is bad (even though they played it for 5000h+ personally I don't play games I don't like) because of X thing and because 5 lacks that X thing it's now "good".
It's the cousing of the sort of trap lot of people around the hard games community fall into where they have convinced themselves that "I like good games" and "hard games are good" thus any game they like is automatically "hard" because they like it even if the game is babys first toddler game or what ever. It's just a mindset problem. The same is happening here I think where people have convinced themselves that complex games are good games and that this game is complex so the conclusion that this game has to be good without really considering the matter more deeply.

>England
>trying to keep France out of the Isles while I fight scotland
>have boats in the channel
>somehow they sneak 20k onto the island through fog
bruhhhhh

Not sure how people are struggling with this game. You just blob and release vassals. Now that the war system has some complexity to it the AI will basically lose every battle suiciding into forests and mountains because they think you have a small stack lol. Build roads and whatever production/RGO has big number. The only problem rn is it's buggy as fuck. Personal unions in particular are egregiously broken. If you ever get stuck as a junior partner and cant DoW on your senior it's because the game has glitched and put you in a marriage union AND a personal union with your senior. You need to restart the game. Learnt this one the hard way and spent 40 years as a junior thinking it would resolve itself lmao.

Also the UI is fucked I shouldn't have to zoom in as far as I do to see province capitals. How do you even tell what countries another country is at war with?

>>2209445
>trade advantage
How do I go about acquiring this?

is there no way to sort buildings like by control, food production etc? gotta search individually every time..

>>2209367
>>2209372
probably because steam forums for basically every single game are full of third worlders nowadays

how do i stop being a vassal

>>2209150
I did that 20 years prior, 0% progress

>>2209448
>somehow they sneak 20k onto the island through fog
AI in paradox games doesn't have FOW that's why they leave seiged forts if you send troops towards them halfway across your country

im actually about to run entirely out of advances to research

its 1394 and none of the renaissance institutions have spread to me

>>2209447
give it another year or two and everything will have enough flavor to take full advantage of the game mechanics

I thought I was going to play on only paper map mode, but the map mode that shows the 3d map only for locations you control and the 2d paper map for fog of war is actually really cool. I tried various combinations of the map settings and this is the one I settled on (alongside setting the size of 3d building models to 1 instead of 1.25)

>>2209447
> Like people have decided that EU4 is bad (even though they played it for 5000h+ personally I don't play games I don't like) because of X thing and because 5 lacks that X thing it's now "good".
It's the cousing of the sort of trap lot of people around the hard games community fall into where they have convinced themselves that "I like good games" and "hard games are good" thus any game they like is automatically "hard" because they like it even if the game is babys first toddler game or what ever. It's just a mindset problem. The same is happening here I think where people have convinced themselves that complex games are good games and that this game is complex so the conclusion that this game has to be good without really considering the matter more deeply.
Or people just like the game? I’m having fun with it and I really like the complexity and slow burn. But I can understand why other people wouldn’t like that. That’s why we can play different games. I’m not going into a civ6 thread and shitting on how I think it’s cartoonish or simplified historically. I really like hell let loose because of the difficulty, but I can understand why some people would rather play COD. It can just be up to preferences. It doesn’t have to be this deep psychological analysis.

Hmmmm I fricking love playing EU4 and blobbing and war but absolutely hate trade and economy... Thats for le fricking cringetarded Vicky players. What nation should I pick up today?
>Muscovy
Ew no I will not be a freaking ZIGGER
>The Ottomans
Heh... le remove kebab... no thanks!
>Yuan into Ming/Manchu
Erm, this is Europa Universalis not BUG Univeralis!
>France
Lol! Autowin baby game!
>Lithuania
Errrrr literally who?
>Florence
Ah, perfect! I can't wait to engage in the epic warfare of the Appenine peninsula and p0wn the nubz! Wait... what the chungus is all this pop and trade shit? Why can't I declare war on everyone? What the fuck is a parliament!? Why is the fucking CHEATING AI winning??? I fucking hate this game!!! Johan give me my shekels back!

I think the problem that leads to Ming not rising is that the AI, or at least Chinese AI, isn't good at defending its territory. This leads to it eventually capitulating to an occupied location. I watched a very strong Ming die to a weak Yuan just because it left what I assume may have been its capital sieged too long. Chinese warlords really should be army based countries and maybe Yuan should even convert into one during civil war if possible.

>>2209011
Looked through the translated negative reviews
Russians think the localization is retarded, half finished, and words were translated without any context to where they appeared.
Chinese think the UI is shit (I guess the chinese font renders weirdly?) and they have to reselect Chinese every time they load in.
Both complain about performance on their shitty PCs.
The rest is general complaining that you would probably see from any other language

i'm going to lose this because apparently my dogshit starting army has 1.5 morale and the ottomans have 3-4.5 and there was no way to tell because the ledger doesnt show the morale of enemy troops :^)

>>2209461
the border between the two is ugly as fuck

>>2209460
Game possibly being good years from now isn't going to help a game that's not good now, especially if the game not being good now kills the development in a while like what happened to imperator and almost happend to vicky 3

>>2209475
It's called fog of war, you fucking dingus.

>>2209475
Greeknoids are afraid to fight

>>2209475
They listened to too many demoralization shills. It went from "it's over" to, it's over. A Greek tragedy.

>>2209464
My girlfriend's husband says this
-Tyrone

why is my subject AI so retarded compared to eu4?
i set "supportive" and allow attachments on my main stack, and he's over there walking around with like a 1K stack getting wiped when i'm next to him. no supply issues here too

Fuck my stupid chungus incel life

>>2209456
build spynetwork, use spynetwork to work towards an independence cb, then you can make an independence faction and get other countries to support you.

Playing as Portugal, exploring West Africa, this event came up.
Vanilla unmodded EU5 has an event calling black people an "apelike species".

>>2209479
EU is the flagship title they wont just abandon it especially when its selling and reviewing not terribly bad

>>2209493
not my problem that internet cafe PCs can't run this game

>>2209499
>you NEED 128GB of RAM and a 32 core CPU to run a spreadsheet simulator because... because you just do ok!
>no, we wont optimize the event loop!

johan
fix the fucking AI

>>2209497
Probably not but it doesn't change the argument. Promise of a future good game doesn't make the game good now.

>>2209496
historically we don't know if this was referring to actual chimpanzees or humans.

If they abandon EU5, the stockholders are going to freak out

>>2209475
You should have listened to them warning you they were much stronger than you bro.

>>2209508
>These people were called 'Gorillae' by the interpreters traveling with Hanno
>people

It is complete and utter bullshit that an army just by being bigger can take over any siege automatically without putting in any effort, and worst that your allies in war can then assault forts and ruin your entire army; and no, I'm not talking about war leader taking over siege, just bigger army (it does). I sieged multiple forts for years and Bohemia kept taking over the control just by parking their stacks on top.
Also how the fuck do I get more characters? I have about 5 left to appoint for my cabinet and they're all old and shitty stats.

>>2209496
My knees hurt from how much I've knelt to Johan

>>2209511
Gorilla didn't exist as a word before this. This is literally where the word Gorilla comes from.

I feel like France is currently way too strong despite being completely decentralized

>>2209496
>Gorillae
>Gorilla
>ArE tHeSe BlAcK pEoPlE?

>>2209510
nah the game is just broken, and even as im bankrupt and my troops have 0.16 morale its still saying we're fair bit stronger.

Am I seriously supposed to know who my various characters are outside my ruler and heir? I keep getting these events where I have a choice between some really bad effect, or a good effect but some random character marries some other random character and I'm not sure why I should care. The game phrases it like it's a drawback to the choice.

>>2209516
>He doesn't know

>>2209505
it doesnt need to be good now, it only needs to have a solid foundation. Right now the game does very well at making people feel good about "investing" into something that will be fleshed out with content

>>2209514
The point is the event text describes them as people, which is solely reserved for humans. Meaning the people found are humans.

>>2209496
The word "gorilla" comes from the history of Hanno the Navigator, a Carthaginian admiral from the 6th c. BC who explored the west African coast. He encountered 'savage, hairy people' and called them gorillai. Skins of gorilla women, brought back by Hanno were kept at Carthage until its destruction.

>>2209512
There's a button to generate a new courtier but it's expensive. Try to make sure all of your starting courtiers get married, with lowborns if you have to.

>>2209522
Someone who doesnt know what a gorilla is, might assume they are humanoid in nature if they saw them.

>>2209523
>'savage, hairy people'
They're literally me

>>2209516
Reddit type post, the wiggly letters are the cherry on top

>>2209523
>He encountered 'savage, hairy people'
I didn't know Gayreeks had African colonies

>1410
>6+ hours in
>Just now discover you can place trading offices in other countries to access trade in their market
Wish I knew this shit earlier

>>2209522
People didn't know the difference hairy apes and ugly primitive people

>>2209522
The word Orangutan literally means forest man. People mistook apes for humans all the time, especially if you're a European who hasn't even seen a monkey before it's not that unusual an assumption to make

>>2209534
>>1410
>>6+ hours in
Is this seriously how long I have to wait to start colonizing??

i can finally build canons, how many do I need to siege forts? It's 1388.

Will my computer run EU5, or will it explode when I open the launcher?

>>2209537
Fucking yup. I'm enjoying myself, but if I have to deal with the 13th century every run I might kms.

>>2209539
You'll be fine.

>>2209475
so i lost that pretty obviously and i restarted

what the fuck do you need to do to see the enemy's morale and discipline and tech lvl BEFORE you declare war, and run into their army that BTFOs you

>>2209211
legendoftotalwar

The rivalry system isnt hated enough

>Inefficient Minting: Our minting efficiency is only 50.00% due to lack of access to needed goods, and it is decreasing the amount of money we get from minting.
What the FUCK does this mean? I don't see a deficit anywhere. Clicking the notification opens the balance panel, I have spent 20 minutes in the panels looking through tooltips for a value called "Minting Efficiency" or the 50% modifier, or instructions on how to increase what the alert is mentioning and this information just doesn't seem to exist in the game. I don't have a gold or silver deficit. I even used the shitty in-game wiki to search for minting and it gives me no useful information.
Until the game solves issues like this it's unplayable for me

What does building automation actually do? I'm playing as Holland and have it turned off because my provinces are pretty easy to manage manually.

>>2209545
reply pls, i know im missing a mechanic and there is a way to see the enemy's military stats somewhere

r-right?

>>2209551
Gold nigga

>>2209551
you have gold and silver in your country? dnno

>>2209475
keep in mind your army loses morale as it moves
their army doesnt have magical powers

>>2209554
>>2209555
>illiterate replies

Goys, I pirated it to see how it would run with proton
I have horrible 1 sec lag every 8am, all graphic settings on lowest
I'm running on iGPU for a couple weeks, but I have 9800x3d and 32gb of ram, is the GPU really such a big bottleneck, or my proton not configured properly or something? Anyone else tried running it with iGPU?

>>2209553
The only way I know is hovering over the strength difference and looking at the military power comparison specifically. If they have amazing troops they'll have a better ratio of troops:combat power. I'm not sure if that tracks everything though.

>>2209557
More gold nigga

>>2208789
Key thing to remember is that market prices work on supply/demand, so when you build a production/trade building it won't just give the listed profit but also drive demand (and so profit of) the input goods and lower the prices of the output goods.

>>2209558
>Anyone else tried running it with iGPU?
Didn't work at all with Vulkan, but DX12 runs well after I capped the FPS to 60. Dunno if that is available on Proton.

i should create many markets and make them trade with eachother correct?

Why are these mayan tribe fucks randomly blocking my colonial expansion?

>>2209556
load up a game as byz and fight ottomans

they have

4.1 morale (max)

byz have

1.93 (max)

>>2209559
this menu? its telling me im twice as powerful as them in terms of combat power. i have no idea what the fuck the number means but its virtually useless if it thinks 1.93 morale troops can even exist on the same hemisphere as 4.1 morale troops. i literally lost constantinople to them while they had a -2 attacker penalty and half my troops....

cant believe ppl here arent talking about this, like legit there has to be a way to see the actual stats lmfao. like does building a spy network reveal them?

how do I make a vassal out of a province?

>>2209182
>/vst/chud runs scared when encountering a woman
damn, Johan really nailed the realism in this game

>>2209570
diplomacy -> create subjects

Wú is doing pretty good bros. I think they might unite China and usher in a new era. Not that it matters much to my Indonesian Buddhist dump.

>>2209464
>Muscovy
Retard, this shit game demands that a fucking XIV CENTURY RUSSIAN PRINCIPALITY has to run the idea of starting another internecine strife through a fucking """PARLIAMENT""". And then the cocksucking victoria faggots try to mumble something about how mana was unrealistic. You're not better than mana, braindead fucking clueless historylets.

Anyone else experiencing short black-screens all the time? No CTDs yet, but it's annoying.

amazing
it's even more messy than eu4

anyone else pissed off theres no space on the screen to rest the mouse without triggering some giant tooltip?

>>2209580
yes

>AI ally's subject attaches their 100 levy shitters to my sieging army
>Occupation goes to the subject, who then grants it to their overlord, who then refuses to hand it over to me
fuck off already, its incredibly far from them aswell

>>2209580
Settings, interface, map tooltips, disable.
Thank fucking god for this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8hMvOtcykg

>>2209577
>what is the Zemsky Sobor

>>2209586
>linking ruZZian filth

>>2209585
Can't wait until the diplomacy update that will let us betray allies in the middle of war.

im so fucking confused with the military shit why is it like this

>>2209587
A XVII fucking century institution, you absolute clown. It's from the times of Ivan the fucking Terrible, not Ivan Kalita, ffs.

EUIV without mana would be way better than whatever this is
Wait for the sunken cost fallacy to wear off in a week or two and this will start getting some serious flak

>>2209595
Show us your budget page.

>>2209182
>incel is so scared of women that he doesn't realize female rulers are a ticket to get free personal unions
another pleb filtered by GODhan

so is there any way you can create crusader jerusalem in this game

>>2209595
just download the simplification mod if its that annoying for you

>>2209592
This might actually make MP fun for once.

>>2209593
It's ck3 for the first 150-200 years and then it transitions to normal eu4 military. What don't you get?

>>2209601
id rather play as a nigger than a w*man

>>2209592
bilateral peace deals while they're at it

>>2209607
no its eu4 but you cant see the enemy's unit stats. its so incomprehensibly shit i have no idea if the reason ppl dont talk about this is because nobody plays a country that doesnt have insanely OP units at teh start or if im just missing the mechanic.

>>2209610
You can see them? Hover over their army and it shows their composition.

personal unions enforced through war should not be "independent nation that has your ruler" they should start with some kind of integration already

>>2209595
here you go lil baby

>>2209616
How do you even remove hour ticks?

>>2209612
i obviously mean before the war?

have none of you fags played eu4?

>>2209617
iirc the half day tick is only for combat so its easy to remove

>>2209618
you must have missed the "war enemies" part

>>2209618
This was always retarded. You should only be able to see this with a spy network.

>>2209621
>before the war
>"war enemies"

>>2209616
>for the casual player
Eew

anyone else feels like automatic trading sucks dick and never updates?

>>2209621
?????????
>>2209622
HOLY FUCK A GAME WHERE THE ONLY SKILL IN WARS IS STACKING MODIFIERS AND YOU CANT EVEN SEE THE MODIFIERS AND YOU THINK THIS IS GOOD DESIGN?? FUCKING RETARD

>>2209622
no bro being able to have total encyclopedic knowledge of all countries around the world and their internal stats is a basic thing

>>2209616
>king's manor which provides 65 proximity
Holy shit kill all modders.

How to turn this into a "core" settlement? I assumed integration cores it, but apparently it's a different thing?

>>2209625
Works on my machine, my pops have no needs. That's likely not optimal for making fat money and I don't actually know exactly what pop satisfaction is good for but it feels nice.

>>2209629
Accept the local culture or assimilate it

The game really isn’t that fucking hard fellas ffs. It’s not like these interconnecting systems don’t make sense. Just think a little bit.

>>2209616
>cuckoen1verse mod
kek

>mostly positive (77%)
It's slowly climbing, at least for the English reviews.

>>2209627
as opposed to finding out those stats by declaring war on them, then loading a save? holy shit that's so epic bro!!!!!

>>2209640
please read the post I replied to that mentioned a very nice and immersive system for that

>>2209602
Only the pope can call crusade

>>2209462
>complexity
vro... theres nothing complex about it. byz gameplay in the early game, before the snowball, is literally just building scriptorium and clothmakers, expanding a few rgos, and juggling random bullshit events so that you dont get a civil war. then you early war ottomans and its basically Game Over

>>2209639
Hmmm really make me think

>>2209626
stupid sperg, go back to your shit game

>back to back bankrupties because estates are broke, and I went negative money for a brief time despite having 20+ positive income
Guess thats what I deserve for playing on ironman mode

how is nobody talking about the missing info in the ledger and how you have to memorize what kind of morale troops each AI has at whatever stage of the game?

this shit is beyond insane. would be enough for me to refund the game if i actually paid money for this.

Just started playing, as Castile, conquered Granada and now I'm losing a ton of ducats per month from "Buying food", can I cancel this somehow and let them starve?s

>>2209646
Kill yourself, kike shill.

>>2209625
I had to mess with it and change it from importing spices??? to importing the most profitable gold and it healed my economy. Maybe it is good for big and/or established nations, but it isn't good for small ones.

Question, when it comes to rgos, with every building that extracts them is it one extra added to the market? or control will affect the amount extracted? Was trying hungary last night, and somehow stupidly managed to kind of ruin the economy. And also I'm just not really sure what to focus on, and how production ties to control. Like production buildings should only be made on the capital at the beginning?

>>2209622
Whats more retarded is not being able to see it at all you stupid nig nog
You people are unbearable

>>2209602
It's a formable if you have a capital there.

>>2209654
Control doesn't affect production, just how much of it you can tax

Me as Bohemia, my vassal swarm, and my PUs in Styria, Brandenburg and Luxemburg! Thanks to you bros' advice I managed to add my PUs to the vassal swarm, and I can just steamroll anyone by just sieging the forts myself and letting the boys handle chasing armies and carpet sieging.

I just want to economymax and build buildings and develop my country. I don't wanna fight people...

holy fuck

60 years of inbred imbecile avg 25 stat loser swedish rulers is over. finally some native TALENT

literally just increased my taxes by 50% and my estates still like me. mana might be gone but bad king is worse now than in eu4.

How do I tell where the local capital is when at war and wandering around in an enemy's country? They seem to be unmarked and there also seems to be no reason not to go for them exclusively.

>>2209654
I'm fairly sure you can just go by the ledger and what's profitable. That likely will be your capital area but you can't oversaturate one area or you'll get pop-locked in the area and it'll take even longer to get returns. Still, your capital area should see a large bulk of investment thanks to 100% control there. I believe control doesn't affect how much is extracted, it just affects who is receiving profit off of it, but I'm not sure. Filling the needs of your pop is less profitable than just spamming the best buildings but you need some discretion there, like you don't want your pop growth to be bottlenecked by food shortages, whereas luxury goods and fancy food are less important.

EU gets good with the reformation, wars of religion and colonialism
The brain dead AI isn't filling me with confidence that this is any good though

>>2209670
Zoom in and squint reeeaaaallly closely until you can see the tiny flagpoles on the capital provinces. Yeah. Thanks Paradox, very intuitive and player friendly...

>>2209644
That’s barely scratching the surface of what you can do. You found the simplest and thoughtless way to succeed and did that to blob. There’s so much more under the hood with just the economy. You can manipulate the economy to undermine the ability of other countries to produce finished products by buying up their rgos. There are dozens of factors going into what you do economically, how effective your stuff is, and how you can strengthen your economy. There’s also no one to do it. I have to build a different economy as Scotland because I don’t have similar resources there. All of this stuff is concrete too. It’s not just arbitrary and abstract modifier stacking like in eu4 with maybe 5 things that effect your taxes from a province. I don’t understand how people come away thinking it’s doesn’t clearly have more going on than something like EU4 or even Vic2.

>>2209649
releaze as vassal and/or increaze food rgo production and/or laws to reduce food cost

is earthquake always gonna happen to byz? i got that shit and i saw some other anon also say they got it

How can I project control out to newly conquered provinces? I tried building some roads and it didn't really do much. I'm guessing it's because the tire of the road.

>>2209681
Yes it is an event

this game is absolutely built for BWC

>>2209685
we like BBC (building BASTED countries) here

>>2209681
the ottos explicitly got across the dardanelles because of an earthquake destroying a fort

>>2209665
>Even women can be ok accidentally, like once in 2 centuries
Surprisingly historically accurate.

What decides levy size? And why do I keep losing levy troops overseas even if supply is provided?
There is so much information hidden from you, they gotta revisit it.

>>2209694
women are great bro, ever tried jerking off without looking at or thinking about a (depiction of) woman?

>>2209622
Well, vickyfag? CAN you see such a ledger with spy network?
Oh, right...

>>2209697
Great for fucking, mostly terrible for anything else. What are you, some femdom cuck?

>playing Bohemia
>go Hussite, no longer eligible to be emperor
>not even sure who I'm voting for at this point. don't care. more focused on the war
>get request from Luxembourg
>they want me to vote for them as emperor
>they're still in a union under me

10/10 brilliant scheme no notes

>>2209696
its all genetics
if youre turkic you get big kara boga levies
if youre a ytboi you get flimsy cvckold numbers

>>2209702
turks are just rebranded islamized greeks tho

I HATE FRANCE! I HATE FRANCE! I HATE FANCE! I HATE FRANCE!

I tried playing as a japanese clan and there is nothing to do.

>>2209706
this is how tooltips work now, its a good idea

>>2209703
turks have the same percentage of turkmen dna as germans have germanic dna but no one says germans are germanified celts/slavs

>>2209708
Sounds historically accurate

>>2209664
>t. the AI

What determines whether you get excommunicated or not? Do other nations have a say or is it just the fucking Pope? He's excommunicating me and I only have -3 opinion with him.

>>2209702
kill yourself muttoid

can I play as yasuke

why am i never able to royal marry anyone as the ottomans? no one compatible ever shows up

>>2209716
This is the REAL BBC (building based country) that players yearn to see added

>>2209718
>royal marry
same as Bohemia, my only royal marriages have been with a few of the starting silesian vassals

>>2209718
I got the same issue, but only for my male characters

>>2209718
do you have diplomats? clear the filters and mouse over people to see why you can't marry

>>2209716
you can play as a BBC in Japan

So, white area is all a colony border
each island is separate
i need to settle all the islands in order to instantly have a colony
councilor has a job of sending people, but he is sending them to a region and they are randomly (i think) end up in one of the islands
its a funny mini game of hoping they would end up on the right one so i wouldnt have to waste my limit pop supply

>>2209711
i say that and i look like a hellene

>>2209706
This is one of the very few good things about this shit UI. I think the first time I saw this type of tooltips in Planetfall, and it's great for being informative about everything you need to learn right on the spot, instead of having to click off one tooltip and search for the info in another one.

>BBC
Johan had to have known.

>>2209718
Single adult fertile women instantly get snatched up by the AI, so there's literally nobody to marry, and even though this is supposed to be mini crusader kings, there isn't a betrothal system either. This is the same reason why being a female ruler is broken, you'll instantly get 10 billion marriage offers

Was adding diseases that destroys everything really necessary? No one liked them in CK3

>>2209731
>No one liked them in CK3
the performance boost from thousands of characters dying says otherwise

>minimum CPU Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-8700K
> have a i7 8700 non-k
joever, go on without me

>>2209645
I understand why Zissies dislike this game, but why do Chongs?

>>2209730
>Single adult fertile women instantly get snatched up
just like in real life!

>>2209733
nigga I'm running it on a 4570 non-K you'll be fine

>>2209718
>>2209730
>>2209735
>incels really thought they could escape the "women never stay single for longer than 2 weeks" rule in a video game

>>2209725
here we go
only 9 failed attempts

>>2209738
proudbavarian said on his vid that with top of the line CPU game speed was exceptionally slow, how true is this?

>>2209740
What country?

>Independence war doesn't let you regain all lost territory due to treaty limit
clown game, can't even vassalize them either

>>2209734
Potato PCs, most of them are crying about being unable to launch the game

game is legit aids with the amount of info it doesn't provide and how garbage the entire UI is
and speed 5 is slow af

>>2209734
They're all playing on shitty internet cafe PCs

>>2209745
There's a button to just annex them.

Would it be worth it to invade this country? They only have a few thousand pops. I feel like I could conquer their land and kick them out. The advantage being they have a town so I'd get a third town to try to start growing my pops in.

>>2209747
>and speed 5 is slow af
get the mod that removes hourly ticks

>>2209743
Samoan island, polynesia

>>2209751
link it

>>2209749
there wasn't

>>2209750
im my game they are a subject of someone i cant yet see

wtf is this shit I wanted eu5 not vic3 part 2

That's a lot of money.

consolidated with my own market now
Italia soon brothers

>>2209756
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3599282262
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3600104346
pick either one based on if you want the additional features or if you just want the hourly ticks gone

>>2209759
just download the eu 4.5 mod so you can blob

not a fan of how im nu-games you can just create CB out of nothing. in GOOD games like EU3 if you wanted a senseless war of blobbing you had to take a stability hit.

i get to claim throne on france and on castile as england

>>2209763
the additional features are very goi4coded

>>2209766
>max out a slide
>recover 3 stability in a month
EU3 was a meme

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3600032772
Mod that fixes the game just dropped

>>2209772
>recover 3 stability in a month
not if you are a large nation

>>2209773
but that's not waifu universalis - loli edition

>>2209772
>EU3 was a meme
no, EU V is a meme because it expects me to wait and wait and wait. I want to paint maps not manage my economy and struggle with johanomics

>Build libraries to increase manpower
Wat.

>>2209776
>I'm retarded
Cool.

>>2209778
yes you are retarded.

Who is the most and who is the least annoying EU5 tuber? I am throwing a coin to decide whose code I pick between the two when buying.

>>2209782
>most
who else but Ludi

>>2209782
a lot of them are annoying but I never found florry to be obnoxious

>>2209782
>least annoying
I think budgetmonk.

yet another garbage game and niggerfaggot retards here will defend it

>>2209788
tell me a good game

>>2209761
I found out at game start as England you can sell your single shitty Scottish location which isn't even integrated to Balliol for almost 400 ducats. It's such a game-changer for early game, but it also seems very busted and OP. I think their location province value calculation is still treating it as if it were EU4 provinces, not the tiny little locations they are in EU5. Only a city should be worth huge money.

>>2209789
Civilization 7

How do you expel or kill certain populations?

thanks for the important news i guess

>>2209789
big rigs

>>2209795
OVER THE ROAD
UNDER THE ROAD

>>2209793
in eu4 you could expel certain populations to your overseas colonies
it's probably a thing here too

>>2209793
you're allowed to say jews on 4chan bwo

>game is too massive
it really didn't need CK3's character mechanics or Vicky 3's pops and number go up economy

>>2209803
wtf i love mahjong now

>>2209803
The economy's good, I'm so-so on the character mechanics but people have been asking for more intricate dynastic systems for a long time and this is one way to do it.

Is Integration supposed to be extremely slow and limited by how many council actions you can devote to it or am I missing something?

>>2209803
>Vicky 3's pops and number go up economy
It did.

>>2208789
>I genuinely don't understand how the markets work. How do I know what to build to make the most money?

Are you a USA politician? You might wanna try, seems like you would feel right at home

WHY IS THE POPE SUDDENLY ENACTING EVERY SINGLE BULL?

>>2209807
Yes. Don't waste time integrating honestly, just release 1 province vassals, improve relations, and then quickly annex them in 10 years. Sure, it wastes diplomats and money (for diplomat upkeep) but it turns the provinces into cores like 3x as fast.

>>2209807
probably just supposed to be slow as fuck early game

>>2209803
>>2209803
>it really didn't need CK3's character mechanics so true, they add nothing to the game, they're horrible to look at, they don't even have interactivity
>or Vicky 3's pops and number go up economy
oh nvm you're retarded

>>2209814
damn i really fucked up the formatting of that post
guess this is the power of having 3 hours sleep due to playing too much eu5

>>2209794
Glad to see everyone is experiencing the global Yamato

You're all going to be creaming your pants in 5 years when they release the character mechanics DLC that finally make them interesting.

>>2209819
>johan releases the 'rape courtier' button.

>>2209734
>>2209746
>>2209748
Niggers, basically every language localisation is in a state ranging from shit to piss.

>>2209814
t. building queue tab pro

>>2209811
u mess with the papal bull you get the horns as they say

What are the most important things to do manually?

>>2209826
uninstall

>>2209821
>rape mana

>>2209803
>Vicky 3's pops
no, this was necessary

>>2209828
*capacity

The pops were extremely necessary, now I'm just waiting for the genocide etc mods to start dropping.

>>2209830
>Sire! Your low crown power only allows four rapes per month!

chat is this winnable???

>>2209832
>noble estate rape monopoly

>>2209812
Yeah, this seems like the way to do it. You don't even have to do full diplomatic spending, a bit will keep them loyal enough to not revolt, the main reason would be diplomatic capacity but I'm not even close to my cap. Then you get to use your cabinet members for useful stuff. I guess the main argument against is if you're taking a lot of land of a culture you fully accept since that'll automatically integrate.

>>2209832
>quick, pass a reform in the parliament for +0.15 rape capacity per month

what building do I spam to make this number not shit