Thread 101111501

Well, do you agree with Pippa?

>>101111501 (OP)
>kiwinigger is ok with ID checks
shocker

>Yes the VTuber is on a screen
>making the vtuber uncomfortable
KWAB

>>101111501 (OP)
She's right.

>>101111501 (OP)
Is there anyone worthwhile there for scalpers to even give a shit?

>>101111501 (OP)
Pippa is just saying this because she hates mexicans

How does requiring IDs stop weirdos from showing up?

>>101111740
me

>>101111791
It doesn't but it allows them to be doxxed which phasecucks are all up for

I still don't understand why people are whining about this. Do you not already have to show your ID to get into Offkai in first place? Or are you afraid of getting deported?

>>101111941
It’s LA and they’re literally currently having riots over the fact that Trump is enforcing the country’s immigration laws.

>>101111501 (OP)
holy fuck are you all literally underage, why do IDs scare you so much

>>101111661
Read what was said. The point is that you have a way to screen known stalkers and start a record for possible future stalkers where this interaction becomes the first of escalating behaviors.

>>101111501 (OP)
I mean what is wrong with this analysis? She's 100% correct. Don't be a fucking creep or weirdo and why wouldn't you want to show your ID, like you need to do at most big events?

>>101111501 (OP)
>phase sponsored event with 100% phase and kiwifag volunteers
>phase vtuber defends them
wow, no way

>>101111501 (OP)
something something broken clock

>>101111501 (OP)
>"All your ID are belong to us phasechud"
Kinda based

>>101111791
>Vtuber tells staff to not allow John Doe into the booth
>Staff checks IDs before person goes into the booth
>Staff sees John Doe in line, John Doe gets removed from line

>>101112134
Kirschefag, we lost the war...

>>101111563
>>101111791
>>101111872
>>101112093
>>101112126
Why didn't you complain before?

>>101112196
>badge
>still anonymous among 10000
>meet and greet to a specify vtuber
>targeted less than 100 participants
Know the difference.

>>101112274
Are you on a sex offender registry or something? Why would you care otherwise?

>>101112274
>moving the goalpost
>achztually them collecting fewer IDs makes it more problematic, and collecting more IDs is no problem

>>101112274
It's baffling to me they decided to enforced it a week before offkai

Is offkai worth going to if you don't want to buy shit? The last time I went to an anime con was a decade ago and I felt way too old back then. Going now for the hell of it seems I dunno.

>>101112310
You can't watch phase if you're on a sex offender list? No wonder twitch indies are better

>>101112364
If your oshi is doing things there, like panels or Meet & Greets or a concert, then yes of course
If not, then eh probably not

>>101112329
uhoh scalper melty, mad you can't resell the M&G tickets for 2x the price now?

>>101111501 (OP)
>meet and greet
>its all stalkers and weirdos
must've been a tough pill to sallow realizing that's the target market

>>101112329
Because you don't have a government-issued ID for some reason?

>>101112329
Are you an illegal or something? How do you not have government ID?

>>101112397
Nah no oshi
but it's in driving distance and I don't have work that day.

>>101112543
>>101112489
>If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear goy!

>>101111501 (OP)
Nah and it's just damage control, she's trying to go for silver lining here. The people dealing with the event can't be entrusted with this kind of stuff.

>>101112329
Will be kind of amusing if it actually turns out to be illegal in cali.

>>101111661
Kind of funny for sure, but I understand chuubas tend to not be among the toughest ones

>>101111501 (OP)
people will know the name of the man who cums on her face (me)

>>101112274
Why does it matter. Are you a vtuber with a recognizable voice with over 8k ccv?

If not, I promise nobody knows or cares who you are

>>101115029
They've been asking for ID to pick up your badge at registration since the con's inception (all cons are like this), so they already have your info regardless, and if it was illegal they would have got shutdown years ago.

>>101111501 (OP)
I was about to agreed with the scalper shit until I read the rest of the post.. PIPPA YOU DUMB WHORE YOU ARE DOING A PANEL 100 MILES AWAY FROM SAID STALKER. THE MOST THAT DUDE CAN DO IS PROBABLY SAY SOME WEIRD SHIT OR PULL OUT HIS COCK AND SHOW IT ON VIDEO TO YOU

>>101112036
only immigrants without real ID are crying about it

I'm not american so I don't get it: why is showing ID such a world ending thing there? In general too, not just this case

>>101115531
People in the country illegally typically do not have government-issued IDs, so they (and their retarded supporters) throw fits whenever something requires to show an ID

>>101111501 (OP)
Least controversial statement from Pippa.

>>101111501 (OP)
>just show your ID bro
kek these subhumans are hilarious

>>101115803
unless you're an immigrant afraid of being rounded up by ice then I don't see why would you be mad about handling identification.

>>101116019
post your full name and address

>>101116356
You HAVE to be twelve to think that is the same as showing ID kek

>>101116356
so you are a registered sex offender is that why you're afraid of someone taking a look at your ID for 2 seconds? stop reaching

>>101116402
you have to be retarded to think that its not

>>101116402
Nta but it's not hard to doxx someone, just need a name and a face, that is all.

>>101116478
do you put up this same attitude everytime you give your ID to federal employees like bank tellers if your "privacy" is your concern?

>>101116529
if you gonna give your ID to some tranny at weebcon might as well post it here, come on.

>>101116529
Will those bank teller dox you like all those kiwifarm volunteer on TVA? No? yea i don't think so dumbass.

>>101111501 (OP)
Why is she literally making excuses for them? Just let the thing explain itself?

>>101111501 (OP)
Another dogshit take fresh from the rabbit's fingertips.

>>101116478
You sound like a tween that has an extremely high sense of self importance. Nobody cares who some vtuber’s fanboy is enough to photograph their id or whatever the fuck you think they’re gonna do

>>101115302
Registration case is far less of an issue since the general pool of attendees is magnitudes larger and there's no extra context to narrow down who the person is. And legality in question goes near topic of altering the original terms of purchase, it's scummy in general not only because the book says so.

>>101115655
>People in the country illegally typically do not have government-issued IDs,
That's bullshit. Ca gives illegals id, and even if they aren't ca illegals get fake IDs that can pass. The ones who get ass hurt about showing id have warrants out for their arrest/felons or have some sovereign citizens/ entitled Karen bullshit going on.

>>101116692
you sound like a retard

>>101116609
>>101116598
ah so right wing pedos gotcha you should've said so sooner.

>>101116633
People probably asking her about it.

>>101116825
>retard, retard, retard
Looks like I’m right

So if you're a vtuber and going to a meet and greet you have to doxx yourself but the vtuber on screen doesn't?

>>101113839
What are you fearing? Why are they not checking IDs for the whole convention and only just the M&Gs?

>>101111501 (OP)
I shall abide by me wife's laws.
Pippa love.

>>101112489
>inb4 they don't accept the passports of foreigners

>>101116529
>federal employees
>bank tellers
bank tellers are not federal employees

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

>>101117690
He said without a hint of irony on an anonymous message board

>>101111501 (OP)
What scalpers? There are only third rate vtubers there. As a matter of fact, the only events I see scalpers bothering with are holo concerts, Nimi concert had no scalpers problem, same with IM concert, and the phase one last year.

>>101118228
It's the classic moot point every single vtuber employs.
>Holo has a problem of scalpers = vtubing has a problem of scalpers
>Holo idol culture is problematic = vtuber idol culture is problematic
It's exhausting. Pippa is a retard but i think she's being extra malicious here.

>>101112186
I thought she is now begging Jim to talk to her because she did her "big win" while the country is burning. I don't understand how she can be this retarded. Theres bigger things happening right now and she begs to be congratulated for destroying a tranny from a nobody site. HUGE win that happened like a month ago.

>>101117162
Well you’re not a vtuber at the meet and greet. Are you planning on shouting your screen name at the top of your lungs?

>>101117162
Sound like a privileged to me.

>>101111501 (OP)
yeah, I'm definitely gonna dox myself to my oshi

>>101111501 (OP)
>"We need to see your ID so you can talk to the jpg on the screen teehee~ ;^)" - A random kiwif- I mean phase connect volunteer
kys

>>101117684
banks are federal building people working there are federal employees.

>>101118600
banks are private businesses

>>101111501 (OP)
>but stalkers show up
Those stalkers are part of the offkai staff thanks to phase connect.

99% of the people complaining about this were never going to go to offkai anyway, what even is the point of complaining about something that is never going to affect you. and for the 2 schizos that probably were going to go but now don't want to because they have to be identified: good, that's the point

>>101111501 (OP)
literally anything she says can be countered by saying she doxxed her own viewer in fact i already completely forgot what she said because of this fact

>>101111501 (OP)
I didn't read the op image but whatever pippa said is wrong.

>>101119225
grim

>>101118277
Because she literally has nothing going for her otherwise, big sponsors are never going to touch her after this, ggsups is likely to drop her, the only other sponsor she's managed to get is from her own agency, her orange daddy is being accused of being a pedo by the guy who funded his whole campaign and she's still banned from offkai there's not any other wins for her to gloat about kek

>>101112329
go back to mexico if you don't like it

>>101111501 (OP)
I agree with everything my based queen says. She can do no wrong and if you disagree you're a seething jealous sister

>>101121992
>ggsups likely going to drop her
2 more weeks, tranny

>>101122726
You're right if they're not dropping sinder then the lard stays since they can't afford to lose anyone else with all the others dropping them

>>101122889
>They can't afford to drop Kirsche or they'll run out of money
Wait, I thought she was completely irrelevant and a brand risk?? KEK far leftists tranny can't keep their narratives straight in a single thread. Cope, seethe, dilate. You lost.

Unless I've completely lost my mind, when I did the M&G's at Anime Impulse in February for Holo, I had to show my ID to get my pass. I can't remember if I had to show it again when I was standing in line, but I'm pretty sure I did (I'm guessing so if you lost the pass no one could just steal it and pretend to be you).

What I'm saying is this is such a nothingburger that it's not even in the same realm as other nothingburgers.

>>101111941
An argument I heard that I agree with is that Offkai has had problems with volunteers having vendettas against specific chuubas before, so it's more concerning to have your ID tied to the fact that you're a fan of a certain chuuba you're meeting rather than just the general fact that you're at the convention

>>101122941
Chuds not beating the illiterate allegations

>>101111501 (OP)
>Short notice is fucked
>It's fine if it's ID pickup but the targeted nature of meet and greets where you might at most have 100 or less people show up is too small to be safe
>Scalpers are an excuse
>Pippa herself would never give her ID for a meet and greet, but she agrees with this cause she already got to have her fun at cons last year and does not care if they turn shit now as long as it makes her feel better

>>101122941
Tying yourself at the waist to a volatile fanbase of polfags who will just as quickly turn on the streamer for an ounce of wrongthink is not a good idea for long term stability.

>>101111501 (OP)
>show ID
>get doxxed 2 days later
How is this grifter bitch asking to stay anon but we have to fork over ID?

>>101112134
chuuba probably doesn't know any of their fans by name

>>101123611
>Anon does not know how paypal doxes you through stuff like kofi and stream elements

>>101112039
>start a record for possible future stalkers
You dropped this

>>101123664
why would a stalker give you a bunch of money to hoe for an endless group of faceless dudes instead of just piecing together information and antagonizing you with it as they try to find them for the eventual abduction

>>101112316
>moving the goalpost
>People would NEVER go out of their way to harass fans of particular "problematic" vtubers if given thier IRL info
Anon, are you perhaps retarded?

>>101123730
>Anon admits to having never watched a single vtuber stream
why are you here?

>>101111501 (OP)
isnt it kinda strange how she describes "stalkers/weirdos" behavior as if she studied them? its almost like she is one of them...

>>101117690
>Anonymous
Please post this with your full name Mr. fearless

>>101119225
>doxxed her own viewer
When did this happen?

>>101118599
kiwis already don't like offkai cause their fat polfag whore got banned, they are not volunteering.

>>101111501 (OP)
Once a doxxfag always a doxxfag

>>101111791
It doesn't stop them but it makes it easier to report to police if they cause an incident and it discourages random yahoos who think they're funny from pulling a Johnny Somali.

>>101123779
I watch a bunch but I don't care about any of the people donating nor do I donate myself. I half consider buying merch but haven't seen anything I felt like I had to have. But how does that invalidate any of what I said? Someone with negative ulterior motives towards a chuuba would have no incentive to donate, thus the id measure wouldn't accomplish much towards filtering out chuubas idea of "bad" viewer. I guess it might, like pipkin said, demotivate someone being an ass at the con, at the same time, not really, there's no law against talking some shit, the chuuba could asked for them to be removed at that point with or without id, not many people are going around cons breaking the law to begin with.

>>101123925
>negative ulterior motives
are you actually retarded? Most vtuber "stalkers" are hyper obsessed fans, not people that hate them or at least did not start out hating them.

>>101124086
negative ulterior motives are anything beyond being a normal viewer that would endanger the chuuba in any way, security, identity etc. Is them being obsessed positive to you? lol

>>101111501 (OP)
Imagine having to dox yourself over a 1 minute appearance for 25 bucks.

>>101124134
Why are you moving the goalposts?

>>101111501 (OP)
phase put in a bunch of money for the event. she is just glazing for her boss

>>101124152
I will say, its usually more than 1 min. depending on the queue you'll usually get to hang out for 5 or so and chat shit.

>>101117690
kys proctor

>>101117690
>Anonymous

>>101124134
>that would endanger the chuuba in any way, security, identity etc.
and how is that happening behind a tv screen?

>>101124297
it's not but we're larping as if IDing guests at a vtuber convention serves a purpose because the industry is predominantly female and women are retarded

>>101111501 (OP)
Well yes, its only natural If they cant produce proof of American citizenship they dont belong there.

Why does this thread even exist
You need to show ID to retriever your badge to begin with. All this outcry seems really fucking performative

>>101125099
>Thousands of people show up to the con
>No real way to tell why they are there
This is fine
>Meet and greets might only have 100 or less people show up
>Some fanbases and vtubers are despised for on reason or another
This is not. Not being able to tell the difference between the context of the two makes you a retard

>>101111501 (OP)
They should ask for ID for the sole purpose of banning underagefags and permaban "people" who chimp out during the event. That's pretty standard fare. A meet and greet should be 18+ anyway. It's fucking vtubers.

>>101125302
They already ID at the door for badges, this is just to tag some people's fans and "accidently" leak it

>>101125322
Ah yes people are actually conspiring against you personally for your supreme taste in vtuber ass. I assume you are the same guy as >>101125190. "some people's fans"? What are you so afraid of you vagueposting faggot? Your suggestion hinges on the organizers having maliciously included a chuuba they hate/whose fandom they hate to perform a borderline illegal stunt just to get at maybe 10 or 20 out of those "100 or less" fans?

>>101125538
>Offkai has not had volunteers go off the rails before cause of their hatred of particular vtubers before
>Said fags would never use info like that with ill intent
You've advanced from retarded to maliciously ignorant, congrats.

>>101111501 (OP)
First time I agree with Pippa. Companies should do whatever the fuck they want. That's capitalism, baby

>>101125603
>some
>particular
You can't name any names, huh? Neither of the chuubas affected nor of the perps. All you got is your vague sense of paranoia with nothing of substance to back it up when pressed.

>>101125703
Look at the op anon, the woman defending it is the most likely to have her fans targeted

How many of you guys complaining are actually going?

>>101125814
I was until they dropped this last second. This is something you tell people weeks in advance, not one week.

>>101111501 (OP)
>i'm going to get shit for this
So she's aware of how schizo her own audience is.

>>101125857
I'm glad you're retarded, nearly every reply was agreeing with her.

>>101111501 (OP)
Deranged liberals thought it was going to be used to get Mexicans deported

>>101125831
>Cancelling hotel which presumably has a cancellation fee this close, travel plans & tickets which also probably have a cancellation fee if you're flying in, and not meeting up with friends over this when you could have just gotten a refund for your m&g, assuming you had one.
Yeah a week before is retarded, but letting it ruin the entirety of your planned vacation weekend is silly.

>>101125943
I'm still going to go to california for the weekend, just not to the con itself, plenty of other shit in the area I can do for 3 days to have fun.

>>101125986
Alright yeah that's a solid plan. If you truly don't want to support the con but still want to be around vtuber stuff, you could also just ghost the con and hang out without a badge if anything.

>>101126034
The Winchester house is in the area so I thought I'd go and check that out along with the tech museum.

>>101125747
Oh I would absolutely agree pippa is a prime candidate.
I'd meet in the middle and say that she should be held accountable if his hunch is correct.

>>101126117
>she should be held accountable

>>101123715
>To secure the peace of our oshis, we must prevent parasocial transgressions before they happen. Your task is to monitor online discourse, identify the probable future offenders and then exact... appropriate justice.

>>101126147
What am I then? Because.. she is the one more or less giving her okay for this move. She is by far one of the most controversial figures, but generally I don't think she would put her fans in harm's way for lulz. I get the risk but I expect her, being in the thick of it, to make the right call and not endorse a honeypot.

>>101111501 (OP)
That gator fag is responsible

>>101112036
I don't think anyone complaining about this gets outside very often.

>>101111745
thats true
>>101111791
they just want to doxx people.

>>101125322
>>101126609
Ok, quick question, how are they going to doxx YOU?
You're twitter/youtube isn't your real name right?
Why would they doxx you specifically?
>>101125603
Sure, let's say that's true
They were doing this to people that they KNOW
Do they KNOW you just off your ID alone?
After reading your ID, are they going to instantly know what your online presence is?

You speak of privacy and security, but you're telling me you're so out in the open online you can be identified and placed to your social media presence just from an ID at a meet and greet event?

>>101126791
>Do they KNOW you just off your ID alone?

>>101125703
people always post memes like this when they themselves have zero fucking proof of anything they claim

>>101126869
You know what I mean dipshit
Is your real name tied to your twitter?
If not, what do you have to worry about?
How is them having your ID tied into your online presence?

>>101126952
>Want to have my badge be my username so online mutuals can spot me and so my oshi recognizes me
>Would be fine with using ID to pick up the badge
>Don't see the need to then once more use ID for the meet and greet as it does nothing but profile me
The privacy and security you're jerking yourself off over is the very same thing this kinda pointless thing aims to remove. You're retarded at best or at worse trying to smokescreen how this secondary ID check does nothing but aim to profile people.

>>101111501 (OP)
Pippa is an OffKai bootlicker even though the con management do not like her and Fishman had to bribe them by paying for the vendor booths so they would quit their seething. They will still sabotage Phase stuff regardless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYVZSPOPfFU
Does she think that the volunteers being Pippa fans for the most part (and subsequently TVA doxfags) will change much? Keep paying big bucks to pay off OffKai though when Sakana would be better funding another con.

>>101111501 (OP)
Two years ago a weirdo who approached the vtuber coqui made uncomfortable comments towards her, and then after the con went to her stream to make comments about raping her. I think that person turned out to be a (now fired) offkai staff member. can see why they want to have ID.

>>101127063
>Want to have my badge be my username so online mutuals can spot me and so my oshi recognizes me
Literally the least efficient way to do things but whatever
>so my oshi recognizes me
Why would that be a bad thing?
You're not explaining why it's bad?
You don't post bad, mean, unsavory things online do you?
Why would you need to worry about your username being tied to your real life if you act accordingly?
If you post nice things online, there's nothing to worry about no?

>>101127898
>Outs himself as a wannabe internet policeman
If only you were white you'd have the reading comp to notice I never said my oshi recognizing me was a bad thing, I don't want the rando checking ids outside her booth to know my fucking name and address, is that such a complex idea for you brownoid?

>>101111501 (OP)
Kitsche magacucks on suicide watch!

>>101116356
Retard

>>101116402
>>101128170
>Illegals don't know ID has your full name and address

>>101128258
Saying "Show your ID on 4chan" is the retarded part. Funnily i saw the same retarded argument made on twitter under these kirschefag posts where they make up conspiracy theories like theyre being hunted down lol.

You'd think they'd be loving ID checks with their donny worship.

>>101125831
You are canceling a whole vacation beacuse you don't want to show your ID for three seconds kek

>>101130133
Learn to read

>>101111745
Based

>>101130133
Why would you want to show your ID to a kiwifag for even 1 second
>b-but they'll never know its you!
They are part of the staff and know exactly who it is that will appear in the meet and greet because of course they wont do their opsec and keep their mouth shut while talking to the jpg

>>101131912
>They are part of the staff
>>101123825

>>101132000
>kiwifags (terminal doxfags) will suddenly stop being doxfags because... some random vtuber got banned (not really) from a shitty con
What...? Can you make your point make sense?

>>101125814
I am

>>101132055
Go read the site at any point in time instead of just assuming you know everything? Do you need me to think for you too?
>Inb4 I'm not going to that shitty doxsite
fair, but then shut the fuck up?

https://www.offkaiexpo.com/faq/
Offkai updated the FAQ with info how the M&Gs work.
Basically, the same people who do the ID check at registration (where they give you your badge & M&G tickets), will be the same people checking your ID at the M&G booths.

>>101111501 (OP)
>stalkers and weirdos
coming from her thats bullshit, she is a dramatuber who lives by throwing shit at others, she just wants to avoid taking any accountability for her shit because she knows that all those she has banned for telling her the truth could show up and shit on her live.

>>101132217
>Guest safety
>Every vtuber thats posted about it has talked about their own safety and scalpers
So someone in particular asked for this I guess

>>101132302
"Guest" is referring to the Vtubers
https://www.offkaiexpo.com/guests/

>>101111740
>no holo
>no one of worth

>>101135876
There are Holos there

Just how bad is the stalking problem?

>>101127756
What a chad, was he doxxed? What's his info

>>101127756
what a shocker that the doxfag central con has doxfag staff.

>>101132302
>doesn’t know that the guests are the VTubers
First con or ESL?

>>101139218
nigga how does someone stalk outside a tv screen?