>>101209927 (OP)It's a pretty dead giveaway. She literally said "I hope you find me" so she's joining a corpo. It's the time of year for Cover's gen debut. Raiding Mori out of all people.
Yeah, EN confirmed
>>101209927 (OP)Does she male collab? Wonโt survive long if not
>>101209927 (OP)You think you are funny huh
>>101210672Shiori and ERB do fine. Not great but fine. It's why I mostly stopped watching Holo. Too many beggars joined the community.
>>101210632 (me)
She also said she was given a "once in a lifetime opportunity" so it's not some literal who corpo either
how the fuck did she pass the audition
I didn't believe she was joining Phase because Phase isn't a "once in a lifetime opportunity" for someone that was already a 3view.
>>101209927 (OP)so just in case, how is she in general?
She got carried by Pippa, by herself she's not that talented, I can't imagine cover accepting her..
>>101209927 (OP)Give me the rundown on her.
>>101209927 (OP)Lets hope so. looking at HololiveEN current roster they can really use someone like her.
>>101209927 (OP)>EN5The hints dropped by en girls make it pretty obvious the announcement is for a concert.
Justice is too new, she probably got in somehwere else. Maybe V4M or Idol
>>101211838>Justice is too new,Justice is almost a year old now, anon
>>101209927 (OP)NO GOD PLEASE NO
NOOOOOOOOOO
>>101211965i... oh... oh god...
>>101210801well niji nuked itself so they had to go somewhere
>>101211838The concert announcement has nothing to do with EN5 existing or not, they are separate things
>>101209927 (OP)Don't literal whos raid big streamers all the time because it's free exposure?
>>101212138Pippa made a joke AI vtuber group back before the internet went ballistic over AI art called Flavr and Nyana took one of the ideas.
>>101212191yea that does happen
>>101212191dont they need explicit permission from the streamer to raid them?
Okay.. What talents does nyana even have? She can sing? Dance? Draw ?
>>101212365model that makes child fuckers cum and orbits /lig/ and phase
>>101212365https://youtu.be/FY9mfHo_CWQ
Which one is she?
>Tanned tomboy with big huge tits
>Tall hikikomori with the combined flatness of Koseki and Ninomae
>Filipina
>>101212436Fat tit mommy.
A total 180 would be hilarious kino
>>101209927 (OP)She's a filian and pippa orbiter, so if she joins holo it's fucking over
>>101212468Can she run a full marathon?
>>101212407Aa...rlly hope cover didn't accept her.
>>101212237Mori
Kiara
Irys
Bae
Had to remove the whitelist back in 2022 or 2021 don't remember. For a YT music event involving Holo, they never bothered with resetting their raids perms after that. All the other girls still have the whitelist and it needs to be updated with every gen.
>>101212478Hololive is great because of the walled garden, but that walled garden is getting less great with many amazing indies in the scene.
Honestly happy for Nyana, but I will miss kino indie collabs.
Folks from hololive also seem to do more idol prep than streaming. That's not what got me into Vtubers.
>>101212627>Folks from hololive also seem to do more idol prep than streamingThis is exactly why I stopped watching holo. I got into it when Myth debuted. It was all SOVL streams with one big idol event a year at holofes. Now it's just homework homework homework, concert concert concert, event event event. Oh and here's a stream
Don't even miss it anymore
So proud of Pippa's daughter. My only issues are that I cannot see a world where Holo gives her a model even half as good as Nyana and that she might have to cut collabs with people who she does with now. Although, doesn't Ollie like collab with everyone?
>>101212735It's ok, when she's forced to stop collabing with Pippa she'll realize what a bitch Pippa is and she'll be better for it
>>101210850Ame left the DYI streamer hole in EN which Cover really appreciated. Nyana is well versed in that skill.
>The actual good streamers are gone
>Everyone else is constantly practicing for concerts
>They let Phase-affiliated garbage in
What makes HoloEN good again besides the blue triangle?
>a new phase of my life
It's literally phase connect. Calling it a "big" opportunity is a stretch considering this concert had 4k/5k views which is more than Phase buff shit but I don't know how indies brains work.
>>101212790I don't know dude, everyone who's interacted with her talks about how genuinely nice she is with them when she actually answers her DMs
>>101212920its not just numbers, but also how much stuff you no longer need to do (assuming you join a proper corpo unlike niji)
Merch contracts and negotiations? Management handles it.
VOD hit by a claim from Sony or some pajeet? Management handles it.
And so on.
She said herself in her announcment that the stress of the not-streaming bits was taxing and why shes doing it.
>>101212365>What talents does nyana even have?She knows how to cook meals that end up giving her food poisoning. Her porkchops weren't half bad.
>>101210672She used to male collab during her FlaVr days, but she wiped all content with that before properly debuting.
It doesn't matter if a Vtuber has talent or not, once they get the blue triangle you're informed that they have talent and simply accept it.
>>101212083I wouldn't wish niji on the absolute sweetheart that is ERB
>>101213170this, but unironically
>>101213096She could've hired a manager if that was the issue. The only edge any corpo still has over indies is performing for so many people and visibility (and that's realistically only Holo) like if she wanted to perform for a 6k venue in america or a 30k+ in Japan Holo is a good choice. But it's phase 100% and both those "edges" are simply not there.
>performing for many peoplePhase biggest venue is like sub 2k. As an indie you can try to join a oshispark concert and get the same.
>visibilityShe just had a 5k concert she doesn't need it imo.
>>101213290(me) Honestly the only thing I don't understand is the
>If I had any other choice I would not abandon my personaWhich is weird since phase allows shit like that. It would be kinda fucked up if their supreme leader gave Nyana an ultimatum
>either join as a new talent or don't
>>101209927 (OP)Another boring ass streamer who'll average 10K CCV because of blue dorito's buff... at least get someone like Grimmi
>>101213454>man if only they added who I LIKE, what shitOh anon, sometimes its other peoples turn for fun!
>>101209927 (OP)And I thought HoloEN couldn't get any lower after the nijisisters in Justice. Pipkin Pippa's fucking AI slop got in?
>>101210772everyone in en5 is like that lol
>>101213443Phase literally just had their invaders gen. Any other gens are company owned IP, like basically every other corpo worth shit.
Its kinda just normal for a company to own the product, not shocking.
>>101213454>Grimmibitch had her chance and blew it for a hotsauce company
>>101212407gura would have loved this one...
>>101212627True, hololive will ruin her
>>101213170Maybe the Gura antis were right and Gura was a lazy talentless hack...
>>101213546I know but if someone really asks you
>can I keep my IPan IP that's actually not worthless considering she is doing pretty well for a small streamer I would just bend the knee. You risk damaging a talent's trust by being petty.
>>101209927 (OP)ngl im happy for her.
wont watch though, HoloEN just doesnt hit the same as jp
>>101213679I wouldn't say talentless but lazy? 100%
>>101212191Yes. She is graduating though. What's the exposure for?
>>101213290even with a manager, most of the big players just won't work with indies period, then you end up with clownshows like tonight because you have to use some lower quality production crew
>>101213731and what was wrong with the concert?
>>101213759If you didn't watch there were "technical issues" a few songs in and they're going to try again tomorrow night.
>>101213731What big players is phase working with? And even HoloEN doesn't get that many high level collabs. Again this point could kinda work for Holo but not for phase.
>>101213290>She could've hired a manager if that was the issue.If you hire a manager you need to still manage the manager. You could have an absolute retard or someone that takes advantage of their position.
Is Cover actually that desperate to find EN talent and people aren't applying because they think they can't get in or etc.? The small corpo scene exploded over the past year so I fail to see why Cover wouldn't have a shot at getting the cream of the crop from that group that applied unless they all didn't apply. It seems like they are doing just that with Nara who is ex-Prism making it in but the choice is odd.
>>101212365Being Latina could bring in an audience that hasn't been reached before, same as Biboo, who is Thai and talentless.
I've told you all that Cover had deliberately hired people from different backgrounds to expand their market reach (watered-down version of DEI if you may) but no one believed me.
>>101213922>DEIyou have to go back
>>101213918>Is Cover actually that desperate to find EN talentrumao
>I fail to see why Cover wouldn't have a shot at getting the cream of the crop from that group that applied unless they all didn't apply.Even if you apply, if you have too much personality or character overlap with someone already here they will probably reject you. They want people that are different and hungry for the position.
>>101209927 (OP)This would be too obvious of a giveaway, which means she isn't EN5.
>>101209927 (OP)>latina like ironmouse>la creatividad like ametwo birds with one stone
i wonder how pippa feels now that her daughter got in the corpo that she was desperately aiming for.
>>101209927 (OP)>EN5>>101213731>clownshows like tonightWould be funny if she was all but hired for a possible october EN5 debut and the last thing cover asked was "what unique thing can you bring" and she smugly said how she's so influential that she can get 35 people in a concert and run the whole thing like it's nothing and deal with all the tech/editing only to have this bizarre 1/5 of a concert happen instead.
>>101214223Sana is my favorite member of Justice
>>101210850If she really is joining Holo, it's definitely from her experience with organizing large events.
EN doesn't have anyone like that.
>>101213918most of those old corpos honestly were never better, and in some cases even worse drama-wise, than your average 2view. Phase also absorbed just about all of the refugees worth having while Cover was fucking around trying to make starsEN work, so they have to take a chance on untapped indies again
>>101211838Given her tangible association with Phase it's possibly that, she just wanted to rebrand as something more serious rather than be an invader.
>>101213290If she wants to grow huge, then Holo is an option for that.
If she goes to phase, then basically nothing will change since phase girls are effectively indies as far as collabs go.
>>101213454Is Grimmi even stable enough for that? She has an actual brain growth so I don't know how her long term health prospects go. Is she able to safely dance and travel and stuff?
>>101213918>Is Cover actually that desperate to find EN talentNo. That's one thing they absolutely are not. If anything, the people joining are getting bigger and bigger like that flow glow chick and ERB
>>101214282She said she wanted to keep her identity though.
I'm 80% on Phase 20% on Holo just for that.
>>101213551That wasn't her fault, she was manipulated by a small hat cunt
>>101213142>Her porkchops weren't half bad.literally the thing that could probably make you the sickest she gets right?
>>101214348i know about ERB but which flow glow member? i don't want doxx, just which member.
What about nijiEN? What ever happened to them? I remember seeing tons of drama threads about them like a year ago, but now absolutely nothing. The generals are still there, so I assume its still around.
>>101209927 (OP)>Brownoid /here/ latina phase subhumanLMAOOOOOOOO oh brother EN is beyond shit tier at this point if this is true. Please god no.
>>101214643Vivi. I don't know about ERB but the same Gen has CC who couldn't get a constant 150 peak ccv for years.
>>101214643Niko iirc.
She was apparently a medium-large time idol pre-holo. 1m+ subs on youtube, etc. Her PL was found almost instantly because of it when she debuted.
>>101214752man, I've been barely paying attention to flow glow because her face didn't instantly come to mind when I read it. She's the tiger chick?
>>101214740Yeah, that's what makes the whole numbers thing sort of irrelevant.
They're absolutely not all that worred about finding new hires.
Everyone and their grandmums could tell she went corpo. Its who else she'll debut with thats the question. I wager Milky Queen
>>101209927 (OP)She will get cancelled hard when they find out about her close connection with Pippa
>>101214729Their real viewership has tanked. There's still drama going on though (funnily enough the biggest thing since SELEN SHOCK happened today, with notTwisty dumping a bunch of info on the sexual misconduct of Aster)
No girl in her right mind would apply for Niji, unless they're joining specifically to suck off the males. Since Iluna's debut in mid-2022, they've debuted 7 girls: 4 have graduated, 1 terminated, 1 undoubtedly about to get terminated, 1 completely dropped EN and switched to JP, and 1 (the newest girl) half JP/EN streams.
CC and GG still managed to shine in their own way despite being irrelevant in the grand scheme of things during time in the indie space, while Raora is a great artist and ERB a great singer. So I can trust the talent scouting to at least have their reasons for choosing those who got in
>>101214860 (me)
Sorry, 3 graduated
>Graduated: Kotoka, Vivi, Kunai>Terminated: Zaion>About to be terminated: Twisty>Switched from EN to JP: Meloco>New girl half JP/EN: Klara
>>101213538Who else is EN5 then?
>>101211838the time between advent and justice was less than 1 year
>>101214900This. Most of the Otomos have praised how CC will make little "Immersions" for streams, but she was always known in the indie space for having meticulously-made toggles and shortcuts for L2D stuff that increased immersion. Pretty sure she was the one that originally figure out how to get a rigged violin L2D to properly match the real thing.
>>1012146432 FlowGlows were legitimate tier 1 former real life Idols
>>101214770No I fucked up remembering. It was Vivi.
>>101214770No, I fucked up remembering. It was both vivi and niko.
I think Niko was the bigger of the two but both were well known.
>>101214729After the selen thing, they're not very well liked by indies outside of the most desperate of desperate.
Any girl you see joining will either be japanese to skip the VTA or completely inexperienced retards like Twisty.
Despite this, they're still arguably the best shot a male streamer has to go anywhere since Holostars doesn't seem to be hiring any time soon.
>>101215275>best shot at being a male streamerYes but all your fans are 45 year old chinese women who dont speak a lick of english and will call for your head if you make the most benign joke in english speaking countries.
Member when one of them had to basically naked dogeza for a yo mama joke? Thats no way to live.
>>101215472You can fuck the female livers so it's fine.
>>101215472Hey, money is money I guess.
And apparently they have orgies or something.
>>101209927 (OP)>>101210632>>101210772TOTAL PHASEBEGGAR DEATH
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>101213922>talentlessno one hates souls slop more than I do but she's an exceptional gamer
>>101211611She has bought ads from 4chan few times.
Source: it came to me on a Ayahuasca trip
the cover are desperate for a new it girl, huh
>>101210801His post actually suggests he believes male collabs are the way going forward. He said she won't survive long if she doesn't male collab.
>>101212083Nah they are fine with that, I see women all over Twitter defending Aster. A lot of them are calling Scarle a "temptress" who made him harass her on purpose. They also all use the word "temptress", which makes it look like they coordinated this somewhere.
>>101211838Nobody announces new gens you fucking retard. They get revealed on twitter and are often something of a shock to the older members themselves (at least on the JP side, on the EN side I think they break all the rules and just have them bond with their senpai beforehand).
>>101216272please be patient with them, they are middle aged chinese women and its one of the 6 english words they know.
>>101215173Which doesn't mean anything when it comes to vtubing, one of them also had a million subs and got all the initial hype. Flow Glow have yet to do anything idol-related because Cover doesn't hand out 3D to low-performers but paradoxically allowing them to be 3D boosts their popularity. Nobody cared about Regloss until they had their 3D live but they weren't allowed to be 3D until they reached a sub count they struggled to get and had to beg for.
>>101214509What are you talking about? She's literally graduating
>>101216292>"guys its a concert not a new gen">(an hour or so later)>Nobody announces new gens you fucking retardAnon you good?
>>101216092I still can't believe the motherfucker who I watched make top 10 Yugioh videos years ago is a massive vtuber fan and started a company.
>>101210632So, who are the most likely for EN5 so far? I get the feeling Kai Saikota's one of them.
>>101211838V4M/Idol aren't exactly a huge opportunity. Most V4s are 3 views. Also a lot of V4s still stream as their PL.
>>101212561I'm assumng this was specifically to provoke Twitch's hypocrisy over vtuber bans. Due to the sheer stupidity of "Vtuber outfits can't show the sides of the hips but near-porn is okay for fleshtubers as long as there's a pool in the shot."
>>101209927 (OP)Time for Pippa to collab with a hololive
>>101216422people underestimate how much people can make as a 3view. You're in the top 1% of twitch with 40 viewers.
Besides, what matters more is how much people will dono. 300 people donating to someone with 700 ccv and 300 people donating to someone with 2300ccv are getting the same paycheck because youtube adsense is a financial rounding error
>>101216395he's a good man
>>101216422Midas is a pretty dead giveaway, her announcement says things like it being something she hoped for since she started vtubing 5 years ago
>but she plans to returnyes she has plans to continue activity, just like fwmc did, Midas was supposed to be her venting alt account after all
>>101216514had no idea about the corp let alone the dude running it but this is hella based.
Will check them out.
>>101216480I was hoping for someone whose idea of content wasn't to talk like she's gargling a mouthful of marbles
>>101213922>Thai audienceThai people's English proficiency isn't that different from Japanese peopleโs, not to mention the time zone. And since Biboo's thai is pretty weak, she canโt really bring in new fans to Hololive like the JPs or Gura can
>>101209927 (OP)More like she isn't. She wouldn't dare to raid into a holo if she was about to join them, that could get Cover to throw her out.
>>101216639>that could get Cover to throw her out.for what
>>101216649Leaking that she was picked up. Even hinting at you being in the holo auditions is grounds to get removed for example.
>>101216669nothing was leaked? she just raided mori, speaking of mori, remember when she bid her farewell to a graduating artist vtuber?
Pretty sure it's confirmation that she isn't joining Holo.
>>101216669anon, i dont know how to tell you this, but raiding someone isnt leaking that you're going to be her coworker.
>>101216752It's enough of a winkwink hinthint that it's too risky
No new holo gen until 1/2 the girls get 1M subs. Advent and Justice were only brought on to prepare for the exodus of myth and council.
>>101216348It's exceptionally retarded when you consider 90% of Bancho's appeal is her dancing.
>>101216866Can't have the next JP gen complain that DEV IS got preferential treatment.
>>101216866And her rapping
Her kayfabe
Her story telling
>>101214250If they were bringing in an event organizer it'd be Reya, wouldn't it? Or maybe Gigi doesn't have a nepocard yet.
Hiring Nyana could be a mistake. No offense, but she feels way more like a vshojophase with who she engages with, what kind of humor she has and the kind of jokes and content and whatnot she makes.
She's much more like Bao or Pippa or Rie or Numi or any of those women than she is holo material.
>>101211677Pippa orbiter turned vtuber. Somehow quickly got close with some of the biggest vtubers like Filian, Nyanners, Bao and Shylily. Even though she's just some random indie born out of a joke from Pippa she has organized events that often include dozens of vtubers much bigger than her, like her current 3D concert... I assume her parents must be loaded.
>>101217209She's just gigi 2.0
>>101217209Raora was like that before.
I feel like you guys always get this shit wrong
>>101213454grimmi is meant to grefecate all over mens chests and going corporate would crush that dream
For those who dont know who arent discord fags. She could of delayed it, but considering the circumstances, it could of been worse.
>>101219521Something about her 3D producer fucking her over.
>>101219441>>101219521He's talking about her concert, which is weird because only like 1 post in this thread has mentioned it
>>101211677Grifter from the /fvr/ threads that used Pippa's AI gen designs to start fake vtubing. Yet, she is an anon, and was posting in the threads. She used the meme and 4chan to get popular, then she distanced herself from the thread officially but not unofficially, and now she is going to grift in a corpo. Her skill set is grifting and leeching.
>>101216669It'd have been risky at worst if she was just accepted, but they arenโt going to throw her out after months of training and team building. At most she'd get a minor caution if anything
IRyS replied to people as IRyS with her rm twitter account before debut and nothing happened to her. Once you are in, Cover is pretty lax when it comes to what you do outside of official accounts
As a worried holo fan and idol lover, to the nyana fans here: Do you think she can adapt? Can she do the 180 that might be required for her to fit in like Raora for example?
And would you even want her to given that you became a fan of her as she is right now?
>>101219824Hell no. If you have the bottom of the barrel femanon getting into Hololive, nothing is going to fix them. The brand will just degrade.
>>101219824She is 90% joining Phase buddy
>a new phase of my life
>>101219859Mori was a femanon
>>101219824You forget that Raora is actually an artist and does art streams. What is Nyana going to do? use AI to gen things on stream and then make sex jokes? How is that the same?
>>101219861That sounds like a reach, you can't just take any instance of the word phase as a hint especially when that sentence fits in perfectly without seeming off or forcefully placed
>>101219881Yea and look how that turned out. It's not just femanon though, it's bottom of the barrel.
>>101219824Gigi could adapt. RR could adapt. Even Mori could adapt. As long as she is smart enough to stay away from males outside of professional interactions (ideally throughout her Holo career, but 2-3 years would be sufficient), she will be fine. Even the runtiest EN (aka Shiori) would still be on top of non-Holo VTubing scene, after all
>>101217170Reya hates corpos and doesn't want to work for them
>>101219886NTA but even so she would be a really bad fit for Hololive. I just don't understand how that would make any sense.
>>101219896It turned out fine after the first year and a half.
>>101219824I checked her out and she is not that "bad"
pretty much just a gigi that makes cunny jokes and dogwhistles
the main issue was her collab partners, but she is suprisingly chill compared to the people she hangs out with
>>101219907I know it seems mean but if she gets in I'd want her to not try and leverage that position to make collabs with her former friend circles like Pippa, Bao, Filian etc. happen
>>101211628probably Phase
>>101219921You keep making those Mori is feminized now threads, right?
>Cover accepting phase orbiters and kiwi doxfags
You wish
>>101219921>2021 I'm too old for this cringe shit MoriNothing will ever top that.
>>101219939But she'll be feminized now.
>>101219939I'm not sure Cover's background checks and history deep dives really exist like how people assume. Or some other girls shouldn't have gotten in, really.
Seems more likely that they just base it on a general "vibe feel" and got mostly lucky so far.
>>101219917I know it's fucking insane but it's also seemingly the most likely outcome if you sit and analyze the circumstances for a second
>>101219937Can you list 3 problematic things Mori did lately? And by lately I mean these past two/three years.
>>101212436flip would be a disaster
Honestly if Cover hires a Flavr cast-off turd, then the company is in serious trouble. That's all there is to it.
>>101219976Can you list 1 talent Nyana actually has that befits an idol? No, you cannot. At least Mori could sing and was never as bad as Nyana is in other respects.
I don't really dig that "I wear MAGA and frog meme hats and constantly make cockcumsex jokes but I'm also an ironic weeb" type of vtuber
If she debuts as part of EN5 she will forever be known as Pippa's sloppy seconds.
>>101219975I think it's phase.
If not phase I am just gonna clean state as usual.
>>101220092but... we don't really want her...
It would be very funny if she actually makes it into holo and, instead of "returning the favor" and shilling for phase collabs and "corpo unity", flips pippa and fishman the bird and pretends she was never propped up by them.
>>101220132That's what she should do. Fuck if I'll let her ruin holoEN by trying to forcibly help boost her garbage friends.
>>101220132Either one would be expected for her grifting ass. Either she makes Pippa a staple collab guest in Hololive now, and everyone has to suck it up, or she ghosts Phase and Phase fans completely.
>>101219824Hololive is no stranger to adopting psychos
>>101220198Holo tamed Rushia desu.
The stuff she was involved with exploded once she was out of the door.
>>101220224>Rushialiterally the worst person you could have chosen for your point lmao
That dog was the opposite of trained. They just got lucky until the dog decided to bite
>>101211628Have you heard her sing? She's very good and she organises a lot of events with other chubas.
>>101220297>she's a common type karaoke whore and she leeches constantly
>>101220260He does have a point though in the sense that until Rushia's life imploded over one Discord notif she was doing well and her fans loved her
Either way Rushia is a bad comparison for this because Rushia's problems were of a different nature.
Nyana is more comparable to say Gigi and Raora, but might be even worse than them because she orbited the phaseshojotwitch circles really hard and most holo fans do NOT want to bring those into the holo sphere any more than what we already got
I mean her being idol pilled is not a bad thing.
>>101220360gigi talked to fucking uki so nothing worries me at this point
>>101220428I'm sure she'd get some flak for it from former fans and vtubing friends though, if she does a reverso and ditches them and their ways
>>101214729They went back to only hiring males if you haven't noticed
>>101220360pepe-posters get filtered out pretty fast because they don't get included in holo audience
(see all those holodrone/holokek catalog shitposters? they are the rejects)
Daily reminder that no matter how "bad" a new holoEN member is in their PL, senzawa was worse. But people memory hole it.
>>101214321wasn't there a rrat she dropped out of Justice?
>>101213918They are getting her so she can't compete with them. Typical corpo shit.
Damn all you have to do to get a job in HoloLive is raid someone?! Why didnโt Mint think of that!?
>>101220857>wasnt there some imagined theory some random internet user posted-Anon...
>>101220428It is though. Nobody likes duplicitous grifters, and the simpletons that ignore her past will ditch her when someone digs up one of the many yabs pouring out her rectum. People saying she can be like a new Gigi but worse aren't making a good argument either.
She came in and said her famous catchphrase: nigger
She was hired on the spot.
Gonna miss the stinky yellow cat model.
>>101214643Lets just say Suisei's new goal of Tokyo Dome is not a goal for some.
cover is not hiring pippa trash that isnt even good enough for phase cucknet do you get how terrible of a look that is? itโs not happening the 2 of her viewers who are cooldown spamming are on drugs
>>101215940She knows her worth and Nyana mogs most of the Phase Girls already. I'm a Phase fan and I'd encourage her to set her sights above Phase. Nyana is a better entertainer than anyone in Phase besides Shiina, Runie and Lia.
Holo better give her a cunny model.
>>101220521It was a different time.
>>101209927 (OP)So
The Banana
Tekken Coyote
MegaMILK
Who are the other two?
The "once in a lifetime opportunity" and "can't remain as nyana, have to take on a new form" combined worries me that it MIGHT be holo though
No one would say that about niji
Could also be vshojo or phase but then you'd have to cope that she just needs a new identity and ditch the AI-born Nyana design cause they would allow people to invade
>>101221123Nyana is so entertaining she has to pay 20 vtubers to do her concert for her so people will watch it and be entertained.
Nobody showing up and watching a Nyana solo live.
>>101221123Nyana is trash though. She and Clio are thread beggars, spamming the board to get where they are, and leeching off others. The way you guys always lap it up and say you love shit only encourages more grifters and scummy tactics. You want this board to be spammed by trash /here/ tubers so they get popular.
Is that chocolate mouse on your mouth anon? No, it's shit. Stop gobbling shit and enabling shitters to get famous.
>phasefags think their little grifting talentless toad fan girl would get a job in hololive
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>101221173I really hope it's not. That would be the only thing that makes me give up on Hololive.
>>101221193>pay 20 vtubersDo you know this for a fact or is it your personal rrat?
>>101221203I literally just came back to 4chan since the chicken jockey killshot. That was my second post siince then. I don't care what occurs on /vt/
Nyana is a cunt for inviting Nyaru to do her concert, and then leaving her off and dropping her from it. She is a scumbag and i hope bad things happen to her and her family IRL
>>101209927 (OP)They would have been better off hiring Sayu at this rate.
>>101221339It's very apparent you don't care about much or know much about any time frame of /vt/ or the internet at all. Your opinion is valued at about the same.
>>101221437Let's not go too far.
>>101221466It really isn't though. Nyana is a lot worse, what were they thinking?
They might as well also hire that whore with a baby screaming on stream if they need to hire a /fvr/ grifter so bad.
I think it is telling that the mere idea of her joining hololive results in 200 posts of anons laughing at her because she is so unworthy. hololive is not make a wish
>>101221486I remember that, nothing good came out of that meme, all grifters, leechers, and talentless attentionwhores.
>>101221530>hololive is not make a wishshiori literally joined as a last resort to save her dying career
i think it kind of is sometimes
>>101221530I still think it could be a false flag to drie up attention for her joining Phase, but it would be a trainwreck if it turned out true.
>>101214250you mean the event that was a complete disaster?
>>101221530Holobros will never live it down if it happens
Also the antiposting against Phase will be at an all time high. It is not even about her, it is about Phase.
>good timeline EN5
Milky
Coyote
Kitanya
Roca
Raki
>bad timeline EN5
Nyana
Twisty
Sayu
AlienMixture
That one girl who farted a lot and who redebuted like 500 times under new IPs, Mel Nekomata
>>101221573I say this as a Phasefag: we are full. There is no room for her.
Also I could think of 20 vtubers we would want in Phase before her.
>>101221565To be fair, she had seniority at least and apparently wowed the staff with her OBS skills. Neither is the case here, this person is literally a shit show in comparison, numbers aside.
>>101221591True Nyana is on par with Mel Nekomata.
>>101221565shiori is an OG in the space. Im shocked she wasnt hired sooner.
>>101221530>>101221583This board is fucking dead. All the hololive fans fucked off. Look at post stats. Bold of you to assume the 3 remaining retards will have any influence over the hololive fanbase.
Most fans won't even know who she is or what she did just like for Raora, Gigi, Shiori, etc.
>it's phase
Tenma called her a grifter and she is now forced to acknowledge her
>It's holo
Femanon made it. You can all do it seething femanons.
It would be a terrible hire not because of the girl. but because of how nasty it will be.
holobronies will be nasty to her and never accept her because she is pippa/phase trash
phasebros will be nasty to her because they will be jealous as she forgets all the phase girls and indies who helped make her as she no longer gives them the time of day because she grunted her way to the top
>>101221647Given her history, the type of content and collabs she did I wouldn't have ever even considered hiring her for holo, but that's just me
>>101221723Every single holo girl has a schizo or a set of schizos but the general community never outright hates the talents.
Her couple fans are just trying to drive up hype for wherever she pops up. However, she is catching a lot of venom because of their shilling so I hope she doesnt lurk here because she is gonna be reading a lot of nastiness.
>>101221713Really though, Nyana is the kind of femanon anons hate offstream. If anons love her in Hololive then it really means they have no standards. Everyone can make it.
>>101221780If she's a 4chan chuuba she must know most of the seethe comes from seething /asp/ies or trolls
>>101221805I would love every femanon if they would stream and make it in holo instead of vtweeting.
>>101221809She is catching strays from holoposters now because the idea of phase connect gutter garbage getting into the walled garden makes us sick.
>>101221809She is LOWER than an /asp/ie she was a seething /fvr/ shit. Let that sink in.
>>101221829Doubt because clean state is a thing
>>101221850Gigi is unpopular though. Shiori was an OG and Raora is actually a talented artist. You need new excuses.
>>101221850You can bet that the moment she fucks up and brings in pippatrash or something else though some people will post all the bad things nyana has done
>>101221123>ShiinaI don't think genuine whores can be good entertainers anon
>>101209927 (OP)dang, she came out of nowhere, was literally no one and now shes going straight to the big league. I still dont know her but i hope shes holo material, its fine if she can be polished, i just dont want any more dead weight in EN
>>101209927 (OP)Justice is already something of a flop gen with the runt of Hololive Gigi Murin stinking up the place. A Phaseject Pippa sloppy seconds chuuba would be even worse.
>>101221926She is not, and has a recorded track record of not being Holo material, including that she is a femanon of the worst kind.
>>101209927 (OP)Raiding into a holo, as well know, means she just got offered a 5 year contract with cover wow
>>101221926She doesn't feel like she's holo material to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbS2TRUf63g
Phase fans donโt even want her in their company, but you think she would get into HoloEN? Are you on PCP?
>>101221946This. Justice was lukewarm despite being so heavily loaded with talent, plus Gigi being annoying. Sloppy seconds gen would be a death knell.
>>101221974I forgot that she's ESL and not the good kind.
>>101219824>>101219883>>101219907What's with this "adaptation" that vt larpers love to spout so much? Is this about male collabs? Then why are you bringing up mori? Lmao this is just like shiori 2 more weeks posting, all people have to do is wait to see this board get disappointed when their made up scenarios don't become reality.
>>101222042It's not just about collabs, it's about the entire vibe and feel and atmosphere.
It's the jokes you make, how far you go with some topics, how you don't bring up any politics or other rl stuff no one wants to hear about, how you don't use shitty twitch frog memes and so on.
Gigi is borderline, she feels kinda vshojo-esque at times for example.
>>101222042Who is talking about male collabs? What is Nyanas talent? It doesn't exist. It's just pure grift and leeching, and her fans bring up the shit show of a failed event as her big achievement.
>>101221654That's Pippa's daughter anon.
>>101221713Fuck Tenma for shitting all over the Flvr arc. Yeah people were being annoying about it but Tenma acted like a total cunt.
>>101222042But talking about her past is not made up, it's a fact, it happened right here.
>>101222106Most women in phase act like that because they actually are cunts.
>>101222106They will call her Pippa's Sloppy Seconds if she gets into EN5.
I hope wherever Nyana ends up, she doesnt forget about my Puerto Rican little sister Lia viva los boricuas
>>101222106Nobody liked /fvr/ shitters, you transparent autist. Fuck /fvr/, fuck Nyanas, fuck Sena, fuck you.
Excited for the announcement to just be about a concert in new york leaving all sides of this theorycrafting wrong.
>>101222181Her not being able to get a real concert is why she is going corpo
>>101222161>Clean stateWhy do you keep saying that instead of clean slate? Retard. No, she is sloppy seconds, not a real vtuber, just ESL AI slop that attracts the same kind of fans.
>>101222162You sound like a salty cunted 1view. Be better, sis.
>>101222181? they are not going to announce en5 today anon
it will be in a couple months
>>101222161Actual holo god here
I'm willing to do clean slate for her too and I do believe in 2nd chances, but she has to actually stick to it and ditch all the trash she surrounded herself with before as well as cleaning up her act
>>101221955>>101221974Well, now i wait for EN6
>>101222198Just like Tenma, right? Nobody liked /fvr/ shitters shitting up the threads and community. NOBODY.
>>101222181Anon that's something else. Tonight is the NYC concert for holoEN. If EN5 would be announced this year it wouldn't be before fall.
Maybe if a talent needs their fans to do a lot of bargaining and asking for second chances, maybe just maybe they weren't the best of the best to audition.
>>101222088>Gigi is borderline, she feels kinda vshojo-esque at times for example.This is why I can't get into her. Randomly spouting off about her sexuality as if anyone gives a fuck is one thing and reeks of tumblr. Also her rampant horniness. It's not Marine tongue in cheek and very self-aware "funny" horniness. Gigi comes off as very creepy at times.
Holy shit why the aspies here hate her so much? These are not Holo or phase fans but seething femanons from asp or flvr.
Pippa's sloppy seconds clean state.
>>101222161>>101220092>>101222371>Nyanas is a seething ESL femanon>ESL anon demands a clean state
>>101210672she's a giga grifter, used to male collab as a 0view to be a part of the flavr community, after getting viewers she ditched flavr and male collabs
if she thinks she can be more popular by doing male collabs in the future, she'll do it, until then she's safe
Maybe they're actually doing holoES
>>101222362Because /fvr/ fans and femanons are the seething trolls, underhanded, backstabbing, grifting, spamming, and always causing drama. Yes, I am talking about Nyanas too. If you live by the sword then you die by the sword.
>>101222117I'm talking about raora specifically, i have yet to see one actual chattino posting about "clean slate" stuff, even at the shiori meltdown her general wasn't doomposting about her being next or something, they were complaining about the catalog being unusable and calling unicorns schizos.
>>101222362No, they are also holo and phase posters I can assure you. it is the trifecta.
most phase posters hate all FlaVR related girls
most holo posters hate all Phase related girls
most aspies well you already know
>>101222451You didn't say that though, you linked three completely different posts and said something generic in a thread specifically about Nyanas, not specifically about Raora. Learn to get to your point the first time around.
>>101222451Raora did some bad shit and seemed like a bad idea. People were rightfully worried.
She didn't end up doing any of them after joining holo and clearly did a 180 on how she behaved and who she interacted with.
That's good. But it doesn't mean the people worrying were wrong for feeling that way about her being hired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdX-RUVqoy8
>>101222362You're basically giving them a free pass and encouraging them though. If you keep saying that Nyanas is fine, then you're telling them all to just keep being seething cunts until they're popular.
>>101222498That's why you should never judge a holo from her PL imo. Fauna and that NTR stuff were vomit inducing but she flipped the second she got in.
>>101222498But Raora was also a talented artist. People should not ignore that. If she didn't have her art to keep her focused it might not have gone so well. The same goes for ERB and singing.
>>101222543It's still nicer to have someone that was already good before joining rather than having to bank on them being willing to change their whole act.
>>101222543>it's not so bad, she could just hide that she's a grifting whoreNot a good example bro.
>>101222543Um yeah, didn't you hear?
>it's okay to be a cunt, grifting seething whore, crabbing on everyone, backstabbing, flip flopping, and shitposting as long as you get into Hololive
>why are people acting like cunts, grifting seething whores, crabbing on everyone, backstabbing, flip flopping, and shitposting?
Better get into Hololive then you can have a clean slate.
Does Shiori count as "the doomers were right" or not by the way?
Of course 2weeks didn't happen, but it DID happen eventually and now she's securely settled in the weekly homo collab camp
>>101222653Calm down femanon
>>101222661Shiori was always someone that would just do whatever for attention. During her debut week she pivoted to GFE then when that dried up she pivots to homocollabs. You should believe that snakes are really snakes, if that's what you mean.
Believing someone can change into a totally different person is a kind of delusional fantasy. You can understand that it's popular in vtubing, but it's also bullshit.
>>101222679Don't tell me that, everything I do is right as long as I get a clean slate. Where's Nyaru? I've got an idea for an idol event to sell her on hue hue hue hue.
>>101222723>for attentionI don't think it's this. It's more like she thought she'd give the "being a neat idol like the others" a try for a while but eventually realized that 1. it didn't quite result in success for her, she is far behind in subs and 2. it's not who she really is, so considering 1. she said fuck it and decided to just be herself again
>>101222747Who the fuck is nyaru?
>>101222756Remember she was going to do travel vlogs and science streams. It wasn't popular, and you didn't hear more on it again.
>>101222782Vtubers need to stop trying this travel vlog shit, no one wants it
>>101222800Unironically JFT disproves that. Nobody wants lukewarm vtubers trying to be unique with low effort slop and then giving up.
See if it was a girl like Kanna instead people would have felt positive about it because literally the only """"yab"""" anyone else could even bring up is her being in a street fighter tournament that had men in it one time
>>101222498What are you talking about lol? Is this about the nipple thing that she did in her past life? And who she interacts with? These are all nothing burgers, the shiori example should tell you that it's only a matter of time and if they get to know eachother offstream.(Her PL octavio tweet is still up by the way.)
>>101222848The sad part is that you could pick any vtuber at random, and you would probably have to run less defense for them.
>>101222965>nipple thingYou have my attention
>>101222965>Her PL octavio tweet is still up by the way She deleted it actually. She also deleted another one recently
>>101223088No she didn't lol
>>101223687She actually did but it's more likely because it would be awkward to have a this kind of tweet around about someone that works at the same company as you, it's very unlikely that it was because of her "unicorn pandering" by browsing /here/ or any other vt rrat.
>>101223787All of her tweets in which she calls Ollie her wife are still there
>>101223829The more effort they make to manage impressions, the more likely they're actually fucking. The twins are fucking all holostars, for example.
>>101209927 (OP)She's too sexy brat for hololive.
>>101223829Anon if you have been in this hobby long enough you should know by now that no one takes same sex flirting seriously as they do with the opposite sex, it's literally "no homo jokes", it doens't works with two different genders.
>>101224256Yeah but saying that she deleted the โmarry meโ tweet because it was inappropriate is retarded too. If that was the actual reason she would have done it from the start
>>101224307Again it's because no one takes same sex jokes seriously, maybe she wanted to delete earlier but she forgot, it's not that deep.
>>101224347I still fail to understand your point. Most of those tweets werenโt directed to stars anyway