Thread 101227106

>talent is all brutally honest and constantly talk shit about each other during streams

How do they manage to do this so well?

>>101227106 (OP)
>How do they manage to do this so well?

>>101227306
They stream consistently?

>>101227386
well they dont have dancing lesson going to studio to do project Music and birthday 3d concert do they? correct me if im wrong ( sorry for my bad english)

>>101227106 (OP)
I was angry with my friend, i told my wrath, my wrath did end. I was angry with my foe, I told it not, my wrath did grow.

Please Sakana release Mari from your shitty collab streams

I want to have intercourse with Tenma

>>101227561
or what, she's gonna start killing people or something?

>>101227475
All the idol prep and homework defeats the whole point of a real life Anime girl you can talk to.
It's no different than a regular celebrity on the TV, except their performances are fast food tier.
I'd rather watch someone that just talks about their day most days of the week. It's more relatable.
Idol groups have repeatedly failed outside Japan. Japanese suits need to stop shoving it down the throats of the rest of the world.
Lumi may be in an incestuous relationship with her 'brother', but she streams about 8 hours a day, every single day, from 9AM her time.

>>101228037
speaking of idols from japan
love the new babymetal song
https://youtu.be/KEMVgy51kPE?si=8fOwZYeuIhWfF5ev

>>101227306
Oof

>>101228037
FR


https://youtu.be/n5Qw-vQ-fUw?si=seYkcyPoh-fHki9k

>>101227667
That's what I got out of that clip, yeah

>>101227386
this.

>>101227561
They're her idea. Everyone is scared of what she'll do if they don't participate.

>>101227106 (OP)
By being low caliber people. You obviously watch Jerry Springer and marvel as how disciplined and dedicated the performances of the guests are.

>>101231397
Oh, they're her idea? Well then I guess they're all based and highly entertaining

>>101227106 (OP)
>talent constantly talk shit about their fans and cuck them
Ftfy
Kys phasecuck

>>101232061
nobody hates phase fans more than some of their talents.

>>101227306
AIIIIEEEE DON'T LOOK

>>101232061
>he thinks his chubba doesn't hate him

>>101232061
t. Holocuck

>>101227667
>>101228220
which collab?

>>101233997
https://youtu.be/bzoKjzjT7Ew?si=brMlI_eHUOmJdQ_P

>>101232401
I love how much Lia hates Phasefags kek

>>101234681
Its weird how manyvjoke about vtuber girls being weird like Munei or Lia yet MariMariEN genuinely is weird, like she has to have autism or something but people barely mention, like it was just a funny quirk she is how she is.

>>101228037
>Idol groups have repeatedly failed outside Japan.
i dont think theres ever been a real push to make it a thing in the west. Also idol stuff is also popular in sea.

>>101234783
she has plenty of reason to hate the phase connect fanbase i don't blame her

>>101234681
clio is in canada?

>>101234998
why the hell would she go all the way to canada? what kind of lameass takes a trip to canada?

>>101235083
It is the company humiliation ritual of flying girls out there so they can "have fun" in the company warehouse where they then get tricked into unironically working all day packaging merch and shipping boxes.

>>101235157
how the fuck does Sakana do it?

Why haven't they been honest about Offkai?

>>101227106 (OP)
being flayon's cocksleeves

>>101236646
>being obsessive boyfriend to a portable network graphics is actually normal
NGMI

>>101234681
You're supposed to parry her and then take her to your dungeon

>>101227106 (OP)
>How do they manage to do this so well?
The other small corpos were worse

>>101232401
I don't blame them

>>101234898
>>101234783
Wrong. She loves us

>>101227306
Wait what the fuck
why are these people always complaining about holostars when they can't even catch up to them?

>>101241936
Yeah, they were all were overmonetized GFE and private date services. They died for a reason.

>>101228037
>fleshie tier slop
give me idols

>>101227306
I have to assume that Phase is doing great in merchandising and superchats to the point that raw views don't really matter, because otherwise I can't explain how this operation is still going after four years, unless Fishman is so rich that he can afford to bleed money for so long.

>>101227106 (OP)
Better to use it as content and get it out of their system than to let it fester and turn into nijisanji like toxic culture.

>>101247971
he sells coffee. the vtuber thing is a sidegig to him.

>>101247971
Phase gets a lot more in superchats per ccv than the big JP corpos, and it wouldn't be surprising if their merch does well too. (Some of their fanbases probably skew wealthier, like the violinist.) So their revenue is probably quite a bit higher than what ccv might suggest. Phase costs are a lot lower too, so even if their revenues are somewhat lower per channel, it's no surprise that they're profitable.

>>101227106 (OP)
So I think what you were trying to say was "how do they do so well" as in views and noombers. But when you added the is you're identifying the bitch behavior as doing well.

>>101250096
did you have a stroke mid sentence bro?

>>101244070
phase people don't watch holostars and probably dont even know they exist

Their fan base is not shy about going chimpcon 1 if something they don't like happens. They are probably terrified that civil war will break out if an open rift occurred.

>>101251917
not true, most of the fanbases get along
everyone just hates pipnigs mostly, because 95% of them are garbage

>>101252010
Great job ignoring the premise of the question. The fan bases get along because the girls get along. The second an open fight breaks out most of the fans will choose sides and go to war. There is too much cross over so the girls are wary.

>>101247971
I mean that and 3/4 of these girls are Phase's worst in terms of ccv. Tenma is generally above 1k when it's not like 5am.

>>101252159
I mean, the girls also seem to like or at least all tolerate each other.
I think the likelihood of any of them crashing out on one another is very minimal.

As long as they keep Mari happy, all is good

>>101247971
They do well in supas and merch.
Excluding Pippa who pulls in better than most holos, they have like 6 or 7 girls who have earned more than $100,000 in supas which is unheard of. Every other small corpo ever only had 1 girl who cou,d break 6 figures

Strong supas means strong streamlabs, means strong memberships and strong merch sales generally. I always got told by other small corpo fans when I pointed out how broke their girls were that the explanation for why they have such poor supas compared to Phase was “they are all on streamlabs” but all of those small corpos have since went out of business cause they made no money.

>>101252613
to add:
The only number that really matters in this business is money and superchats. Strong supas usually means strong everything because only casuals donate in superchats, so if you are good enough to generate rando supas you likely have people buying your other shit.
Phase has earned almost $2,000,000 in superchats from their top 10 talent. This isn't even counting their new twitch girls or Lumis twitch money which is probably an extra $100,000 minimum. Girls like Airi and Lia barely stream compared to everyone else, and they still draw money.

$673,788 - Pippa
$164, 478 - Tenma
$138,006 - Lia
$128,089 - Uruka
$120,168 - Shiina
$114,273 - Dizzy
$104,228 - Airi
$103,026 - Jelly
$81,899 - Runie
$81,232 - Clara
$61,587 - Panko
$51,080 - Hime
$48,151 - Ember
$46,953 - Eimi
$42,206 - Erina
$39,905 - Lumi
$28,075 - Iori
$28,383 - Muyu
$24,887 - Hina
$24,062 - Remi
$18,140 - Yuu
$17,311 - Loki
$15,826 - Nasa
$10,98 - Pico
$7,887 - Michiru
$6,819 - Memory

To put into perspective, these are the top earners in each from the other small corpos. Most of these girls were the Pippa of the corpo, with the gap between them and the next girl being wide. You can see why they didn't make it and Phase did. The next girl in each of these places has/had significantly less supas.

$154,883 - Nene (kawaii)
$141, 326 - Mio (tsunderia/myholo)
$74,135 - Rin (idol)
$64,708 - Shiki (PRISM)
$36,783 - Poma (v4m)
$30,537 - Sayu (NOA)
$29,310 - Nova (vrev/glitch stars)
$16,669 - Kiri (globie)
$9,102 - Kana (pixel/glitch stars)

>>101227306
oof

>>101253396
>they bitch "why do pippa, tenma, lia, uruka, lumi only get to do things! when is it gen2's turn!"
a million reasons why nigga
even if you remove pippa, the 3 of tenma lia and uruka clear gen2 total by almost $30,000

>>101253396
Lia and Airi must be the most frustrating employees
Imagine if they cared, how much could they earn?

>>101253663
Gen 1 debuted a whole year before gen 2 and they were the only talents there, of course they got 2x of everyone's superchats. What a retard.

>>101253893
>1 whole year when everybody was making no money
lmao
pippa made the most in phase for year 1 with a grand total of like $20,000

>>101253396
>>101253663

As a Pankophile I always go for streamelements donations, and I know for a fact that most Pankophiles do the same, especially the ones who often donate large amounts.

its funny how many people want to bang pippa even after her mold and puke drawer stories

>>101253990
and as a Pankophile, you can cope knowing she is middle of the pack in terms of superchat earnings.

>>101253396
ahhh why'd you go and do that. Theres a reason why we tell numberfags to fuck off since progress has always been under their radar with their retarded YT & Twitch metrics and linear minded thinking.
Fact still stands regardless of individual performance watchers still cherish each of them on an individual level.

>>101254160
Well, better than last, no?
And also of course she is if we as a fanbase collectively decide to donate through stream elements mostly, but I didn't think I needed to explain this.

>>101254180
now I feel bad fuck.

>>101227106 (OP)
Didn't a troon join phase recently? Have any of the girls been "brutally honest" with him yet?

>>101254262
Pankophiles are a fucking cult

>>101247971
Coffee is good

>>101254180
the point is this anon implies Fishman is bleeding money >>101247971 but the truth is Phase Connect total has made well over $2,000,000 in superchats, just superchats. Now consider memberships per month, and streamelements, and merch. Point is Phase makes money.

>>101253663
>waaaaaaah only gen1 gets to do things
meanwhile reality
look forward to vexpo when gen1 aren't anywhere to be seen

>>101254563
>Sorry, you don't make us enough money to deserve 3D, you can do a Q&A or have a picture of your character stuck in a slice of cake though
You sure showed them

>>101254767
people gotta buy that cake. they aren't gonna put girls on it if they dont think it will sell

>>101254767
Whatever all I know is that when Alias etc do their 3d shit, Uruka, Lia and Pippa better get to do maid cafe stuff because they didn't get picked for that before. it's the trade off.

>>101254263
Dont sweat it you are just smarter than 98% of /vt/

>>101227306
>picks two of the lowest number streamers

>>101254767
>>Sorry, you don't make us enough money to deserve 3D
I would think that has little to do with 3D because consider this: if it is based on who makes the most money, then why would you intentionally kill your top earners streams for 2 weeks to fly and record?

3d is only based on sakana taking his sweet fucking time getting models made. 3 years for origins. it never had anything to do with 100k otherwise shiina would have had hers long ago
alias' has to be coming soon because they need to add more girls to the concert lineups for variety sake there is only so many times you can send pippa out there to mail in the ripper or have tenma stand around and rap the same things

>>101254314
We're men of culture.

>>101247971
Phase has an unusually high amount of middle-income fans who can afford to drop money on merch and supas compared to most other agencies.

I think the hangup on Gen2 getting it is they are not on the same page and available to travel at the same time to record. This sin't hololive where they get paid enough to where if the company says record you have to drop everything because it is your job.

I don't think Gen2 has ever even had a gen trip. Have Panko, Remi and Erina met other Phase girls yet? Genuine question I don't follow them as closely as others. But Gen1 EN has had many trips, Kaleido is on a trip to Canada etc

>>101255455
>3d is only based on sakana taking his sweet fucking time getting models made. 3 years for origins.
>it never had anything to do with 100k
Your point completely falls apart when there are in fact three member of Origins who still don't have 3D, and wouldn't you know it, it's the three with under 100k subs

>>101255679
JP Origins are back to being separate from EN Origins. it is what it is, they seem cool with it.

>>101250027
Views and super chats are always the lesser revenue streams. The real money's in merch, voice packs, convention meet and greet fees, sponsorships, shit like that. I mean when you're starting out yeah, spachas, memberships, and ads (along with twitch subs and donos) are a big deal but when you start consistently clearing a couple hundred ccv you have more and better options.

>>101255679
it never had anything to do with 100k. shiina was the 3rd to get it, still doesnt have it. lia and shiina hit 100k before uruka, but uruka got 3d at 75k.
i don't know what qualifies to get it honestly. we will see with the next roleout of who gets it between alias or jp gen1. i presume it is based on en tenure? lumii got hers because she paid for it herself iirc,

>>101255620
Its harder to get them together for stuff compared to the other girls due to where they live. For them to have gone on the current trip to Canada would have involved like an 18 hour plane ride iirc. That's why Tenma coming to the last offkai was treated as such a big deal too.

>>101255679
there is a long history of Phase 3D
>Pippa got the first 3D model in 2022 to shill wonder ai (was 2nd in subs at the time behind Tenma)
>Tenma and Shiina then got 3D models at the end of 2022 to shill wonder ai (they were 2nd and i think 5th in subs at the time)
>Hime got a 3D chibi model for a wonder ai Offkai event in 2023 (she was near the bottom in the company in subs)
>Lia, as a last minute sub for Tenma, got a 3D chibi model for a wonder ai Offkai event in 2023 (she was maybe 5th in subs at the time)
At the time when they had nothing, the above 3D's meant a lot beause there wasn't any 3D going around. none of these I would classify as "real" 3D. real 3d started in 2024.
>June 2024, Pippa and Tenma debuted theirs at Offkai (top 2 in subs at the time obviously both had over 100k)
>July 2024, Uruka debuted hers at Tubeout 2024 (was maybe 6th in subs at the time, was only at like 70k)
>August 2024, Lia debuted hers at Anime NYC (was 4th in subs at the time and had over 100k)
>December 2024, Lumi debuted hers at the Vtuber Awards (was 6th in subs at the time and had over 100k)

Uruka is the outlier because she jumped ahead of Shiina, Lia and Lumi who all had more subs than her at the time she got it. This was before she got algo'd and started nonstop spamming shorts streams and coomermaxing to where she went from 70k to 110k in like 2 weeks. They clearly had Uruka and Lia's models done sitting there, and just chose not to use them earlier than they did and opted to bench them for last year's Offkai for some reason that makes no sense to anybody. I would bet most of Alias has 3D models done, but they are waiting for the right moment to start showing them. I would expect Hime and Shiina to be up first when it happens.

>>101256347 (me)
I am ignoring all of Lumi's previous 3D models she had made because there are so many and they were never used for official Phase stuff, just for her vr streams.

The secret is to not have too much staff.

>>101253870
I imagine quitting her black corpo would be very dishonorabre for Airi's Korean family.

>>101253396
>$104,228 - Airi
Her viewers make good money.

>>101253870
lia has gone guru
she only cares about hopefully being asked to do dancing and playing tumblr games that make her happy