>Literally starts 5 minutes before the concert announcement and justice 3d debut

It’s actually genuinely hilarious. What the fuck did cover or the girls do for this level of calculated pettiness?

>>101241736 (OP)
we'll probably never know

it doesn't have to have some fanfiction attached
people can just be petty because that's what they are
i'd argue that this kind of behavior (which she exhibited towards Advent as well) is more obsessive and manic in nature, rather than casual pettiness

>>101241736 (OP)
I thought it was just against biboo but it seems she just hates cover.

Why does the crab have a butthole

>>101242178
so things can be inserted there

>>101241736 (OP)
If EN 5 is announced during the concert and it lines up with her debut then this is definitely beyond calculated. I strive to be this level of petty

>>101241736 (OP)
The other ex-holos haven't done anything as petty as this, it's either something Cover did specifically to Gura or she's revealing her true (full) colors.

Holy samefag

>>101241736 (OP)
Holy based. I hope she overlaps the debuts.

My theory is that she mentioned that she was thinking about wanting to quit (kinda like Ina did in 2022) and cover immediately went to work finding a replacement loli. This was seen as a betrayal by gura, to be seen as replaceable and decided to not stream as retaliation. Once advent debuted (especially the new loli) she continued her anti cover campaign by overlapping, throwing shade, and not streaming until her eventual departure. She continues her crusade and will not end it until the company is either burned to the ground or completely falls into irrelevancy.

>>101242567
That's right, that's a load of bullshit that came out of that!

>>101242521
It would be really funny if she does

You want me to STREAM???? FOR MY STREAMING JOB??? Raaaahhhhhhhh burn it down tear it down!!!!!

>>101241870
https://youtu.be/yp2wvsYGSyQ?t=2393
>chubby baby arms
https://youtu.be/yp2wvsYGSyQ?t=2513
>mentioned to viewers how low her shirt is on the daki art
https://youtu.be/yp2wvsYGSyQ?t=3710
>was embarrassed while discretely calling the daki yabe
The fact that Gura was so nervous that she had trouble sleeping the night before and had an upset stomach while having to shill her daki sure makes it feel like it was something that was forced on her. Hololive recently lost 2 talents (Gura and Shion) that had pedobait merch and both of them left to be indie vtubers...

>>101243230
jesus not this moron again

>>101243230
You lost outfit schizo

>>101242521
>>101242814
I like how cumbuds went from. "Returning for 2 weeks out of nowhere and overlapping bijou every single day during her debut weeks was a complete coincidence. Fuck off anti." to "FUCK YEAH SHE'S SO BASED FOR THIS".
Truly the worst fanbase in the history of vtubing.

>>101241736 (OP)
>What the fuck did cover or the girls do for this level of calculated pettiness?
shes a woman

>>101242567
this doesn't sound half stupid desu, I'd buy it. if you told anyone a japanese corpo was anything other than harsh at absolute best before hololive blew up c.2020, people would rightfullly look at you like an idiot.
the fact that this is even a question at this point is attributable to their success and marketing. hell, senzawa was the only one in myth who had a proven track record for anything like vtubing at all. if I were her I wouldn't expect preferential treatment but I'd be PISSED if they found some other, younger zoomer to replace me the firs time I made noise

>>101241736 (OP)
That crab has a butthole.

kani

>>101241736 (OP)
so this confirms bad blood to me, and now we know why her statue is gone

>>101243230
kill yourself, triple nigger

>>101242276
This has been a trend of hers for a long time now. She would suddenly end her long breaks right in time to overlap big events. Sometimes it was NijiEN debuts and sometimes it was Hololive debuts (like when she sharked the Advent debuts). This is just who she is. It's probably insecure narcissism.

Is this entire thread just one brown schizo talking to himself? It's sad seeing what /vt/ has turned into

wait, does that mean she died just to overlap 4chan dying?

>>101243386
Bijou is shit and cringe. She was never even close to being as good as Gura was and she never will be. She has zero talent and isn't funny at all. She streams a lot and is decent at games, but that's literally all she has going for her.

>>101241736 (OP)
>5 minutes
*1 minute, was probably meant to be at the exact time the announcement started but it was a minute late.
This was at 7:55 PM and the announcement started at 7:56 PM

>>101243871
A mediocre employee who actually shows up to work is a better asset than a really talented employee who never shows up for work. You can never get away from that truth chumfucks.

Welcome to the Mount Rushmore of professional hating, Gura.

>>101243807
>>101243871
Uh oh, someone’s having a melty… I do kinda agree that she does seem very pickme discord kitten-esque. But at least she streams and loves her job unlike some others out there

>>101241736 (OP)
Neither the girls or Cover management had to do anything in particular. Listen to and watch Ash Again and pay attention to the imagery and lyrics. The song is about her struggles with mental illness. She explicitly crashes out in a padded room and talks about the voices in her head.

Have you ever heard the other girls talk about how they get worried about being forgotten when a new gen debuts? It's normal. Now magnify it and sprinkle crippling anxiety, imposter syndrome, and whatever else you can think of on top of that. That's Gura. She not maliciously petty, she just giga-menhera.

>>101241736 (OP)
if she doesn't go all out with cunny bait now that she's an indie i'm going to be very disappointed

>>101242147
she hated ALL of advent, not just biboo

>>101241870
Queen, full color, perm hell, homework, scam manager, not approve of ame studio, probably a lot more behind the scene

>>101243978
not when "not showing up" is sti selling a massive brand lmao

>>101244044
Which is something that would be massively improved upon if she just got off the internet and proceeded with a more normal life. Yet here she is hyping up another debut. I think we have a possible Rushia tier lolcow on our hands. She will be the DSP on vtubing.

>this thread
Are holo drones the new nijinogs? I think I saw same exact seethe posts in Doki's seethe threads
Jesus

>>101241736 (OP)
>What the fuck did cover or the girls do for this level of calculated pettiness?
It's just this all over again.

>>101241736 (OP)
>Kani
so this is it huh? her fans called her cunny too much that she turned her fans into cunnies...

It's sad. Gura literally rested on her laurels for no good reason. Sure, her projects were rejected in favor of Umishit, but she doesn't have to rely on COVER all the time. She needed to prove to COVER that she can do things by herself and she just doubled down.

Right now, I DO NOT BUY her "I'm too shy" act. I'm just upset that she could be this petty.

I tolerated Nimi's plush, I was slightly upset, but Nimi/LL needed some income. I tolerated Doob's snide comments during her debut, because you can tell she just joked about it. But Senzawa getting mad over COVER trying to "replace" her is stupid. What did she expect them to do? Roll over and die after she left?

>>101241736 (OP)
It’s pretty telling how people here care more about the brand than the girls, considering how quickly you turned on them following just a simple post and then twisted it as if there were some kind of agenda. she did a good thing choosing to graduate and filter all of you fake fans

>>101242567
>>101243437

>>101244144
In the video she tries to stop her other self (who is influenced by the voices) from leaving through the door. She ultimately merges with that other self and leaves.

"I'll do it again."

She accepts that she operates on a pendulum.

>>101244296
Will you apologize if her debut is timed to overlap some big holo event?

>>101244296
I do support the brand. Before Hololive Gura was a Temu level e-girl thot who was working with Belle Dephine. Hololive turned her into a "CGDCT idol". The girls are obviously the biggest reason for Hololive's success but you can't just act like the girls exist in a vacuum. The culture that Hololive created and continues to create is also a big reason we love these girls. The company is important. Just look at what is going down in NijiEN right now.

>>101244296

>>101244296
Holofags are genuine cancer. They are no different from Nijinogs now

>>101244238
I used to think gura was the aqua of this entire ordeal, but now I’m starting to think otherwise. No one with an aqua level IQ could ever be this coordinated

>>101244326
Really reminds me of somebody. I'm surprised we never saw this in Gura before. She is going to be a massive lolcow.

>>101244372
This. We've never seen Dooby, or Nimi do this. It's just specifically her, even when she was still Gura.

The real irony is. If she dedicated this pettiness to actually doing and trying to prove to COVER that she can do stuff alone, then COVER would've trusted her better.

COVER was probably thinking the same way that the people who say "MYTH got lucky with the situation" and wanted to see who was trying.

Which is why Ame is an affiliate and She's not. They saw that the former was trying and was just burnt out, while the latter is coasting and resting on her laurels.

COVER rejecting her projects was testing her persistence. She didn't take rejection seriously and just gave up instead of fighting for what she wanted.

>>101242147
that doesn't hurt Cover as much as her hololive friends and former co-workers though they get most of their money from JP anyway and Gura can do nothing to really hurt them at the core of it. Then again it's just a tweet.

>>101241736 (OP)
They literally debuted EN4 on her birthday this is nothing compared to what they did to Gura holodrone

>>101242521
that would require her to stream 4 times that month you think she have enough stamina for this? Not to mention wasn't she pretty friendly with CC and Raora at least?

>>101244530
>COVER was probably thinking the same way that the people who say "MYTH got lucky with the situation" and wanted to see who was trying.
This is why the three remaining MYTH are probably the most sturdy when it comes to adversity.

>>101244433
I doubt it. Gura simply withdraws into seclusion when she is at her worst. Being a sick girl that doesn't cause intentional harm other people can simply boost your appeal overall.

>this thread

>>101244535
Pretty much this. At the end of the day she can't affect holoJP in any way. Cover will always win.
This is just petty and stupid.

>>101242567
clearly Gura has monopoly on lolies and GG with her hebe body was the final straw this bitches all want to steal her fans! Her marriage and subsequent divorced shall be revealed a year from now.

>>101241736 (OP)
looks like Fuwawa with a shark tail...so this is what she meant by she should learn to be more like FWMC during one of her streams

>>101244639
It can't be all coincidence because it can be traced back by Gura actively overlapping Advent milestones.

>>101244296
>forcing drama from thin air
Ya know who they are

>>101243360
>You lost outfit schizo
Sameko Saba and Roa will debut as indie vtubers and than you can say that if they pedobait but I am confident they won't. If Gura and Shion wanted easy coomer money than releasing sleazy merch in Hololive would have been the best option. Cover was doing something they hated so much that it caused their graduations from the biggest vtuber company.

>>101244044
>Listen to and watch Ash Again and pay attention to the imagery and lyric
You mean the song she didn't write?
It's almost like it's explicitly credited to someone else in the videos description...

>>101244670
>muh overlaps
You can't be serious with this shit.

>>101243230
you're a retard. Gura specifically stated, many times, she *fought* to get the daki released, that cover were the ones that didnt want to put one out. it was her idea, she loves lolis. She's always a loli.

>>101244697
So, what did Gura even do to release this? Was it delayed because her lazy ass can't record?

>>101244698
keep coping with that. We all know she's debutting during the EN5 announcement.

>>101244433
That's what Fauna warned us about with that "not your friend" talk she knows Vtubers behind the scenes and Gura was never honest with her fanbase, she stopped herself from streaming just to maintain illusion.

>>101244756
3 months from now?

>>101244708
>fought
>likely just sobbed and did nothing after COVER said she can't.
>you could've literally pitched a joke daki first to let COVER see that you can sell things like hotcakes. but she always thought of herself as a victim.

>>101244697
Show me where Gura stated that she had no creative input.

>>101244784
yeah. at the rate we're going.

>>101244784
Wouldn’t be the craziest thing

>>101243669
What statue

>>101241736 (OP)
Extremely hot if she’s kneeling or crouching
Shit if she’s standing
Hairs down to her feet would be extremely ass

>>101244248
Umisea? I only vaguely remember what that might be

This pretty much confirm that she's acting out of pettiness, resentment and just sheer hate really. I remember that she deliberately took a shit on advent and justice's debut by overlapping their debut month and now this... kind of a shame really but oh well, it is what it is.

Dramafags and leeches rejoice though, she'll give them content for a while.

>>101244388
>The culture that Hololive created and continues to create is also a big reason we love these girls
I do wish they never referenced their life in Hololive whether that be through characters, phrases, models, stream style, shit even the fonts and colors they use, etc. I want them to be their own independent thing, but then again I remember why I enjoy the holo culture when it comes to streaming

>>101244877
Is she posting a new preview every 2 weeks as a nod to the "2 more weeks sister" shit that gets posted here?

>>101244877
Extremely sexy

>>101244992
All Gura had to do was actually DO something after she got rejected. Companies (Especially JP ones) always do this. They were testing her character.

Maybe just don't fucking reject her projects lol

>>101241736 (OP)
She is acting like a bitter ex, Hololive will just keep going without her while she keep seething and drinking herself to death

>>101244104
So you don't watch streams or...?

>>101244433
I may explain this retardedly, but I remember feeling some sort of strange aura (I guess?) during one of their first among us collab. I remember when Ina got imposter 3 times in a row and gura seemed to genuinely seethe every time she got killed or blamed on which is literally the point of the game

>>101244728

"Gura, are you sure this song is not about burning down Cover?"

"No, it's about my inner turmoil, constant withdrawal, and habitual resignation. "

"O-oh....are you a sure you want to graduate with such a negative song?"

"Ultimately I persevere and rise from my burnout like a phoenix, beginning a new journey."

"Uh, are you sure?"

>>101241736 (OP)
>blonde
>crab
If she comes back as shiina with a tail, I am going to be pretty miffed.

>>101245318
She stole Shiina's schtick!

>>101245011

you need this

I hope she does react content. Penguinz0 but a anime girl would be amazing

>>101241736 (OP)
Take your bets. Are we finally getting a debut date in two weeks, or will it just give a peek at another piece of her design

>>101243871
>She streams a lot and is decent at games, but that's literally all she has going for her.
Which more than Gura had going for her, I know the board like to try to pit Gura v Biboo or Cover v Talent but being disingenuous saying the the things that literally are Biboos strong points are somehow bad because they were Gura's weakness is hillarious.

You don't see Pebles running around claiming Biboo is the greatest singer Hololive has (Yes Gura was an above average singer when she bothered to release originals). You can tell a shitter right away beause they won't admit that Gura's primary problem is her lack of presense which in a job like streaming is pretty much key if not the most important thing. Gura isn't even the only Holomem with this problem but she was the EN one that was the most chronic of it and regardless of her reasoning Cover and HER not being upfront with it has changed everything for better or worse.

>>101245553
We’re not getting a debut and streams until the exact day EN 5 debuts. For now it’ll be occasional teases every time cover has something big to announce

>>101243230
Yes, this girl would never want to be sexualized in any way
https://youtu.be/74B94qoLd6k

>>101245011
>girls who collabed with males stay
>girls who were both popular and pure leaves
yeah maybe those oppresive rules didn't work as intended did it

>>101245370
This cope will never stop being funny since you van just check hololyzer and see that 90% of Hololive donations are in JPY and USD.

>>101242567
Gura should have hot, steamy, violent scissoring with Biboo

>>101244708
>Gura specifically stated, many times, she *fought* to get the daki released, that cover were the ones that didnt want to put one out.
With the recent wave of graduations it should be obvious there has been a lot of questionable shit going on behind the scenes in Hololive. Gura and Shion both had long mysterious health breaks, they both rejected the affiliate deal, and neither of them agreed to release their pedobait daki as graduation merch. That would have been easy money so why did neither of the loli vtubers rerelease their daki if they were actually okay with it?

>>101245011
Cover is selling an illusion like any other idol company but recently the illusion is falling apart. Gura didn't tweet out her next teaser a minute before the EN concert announcement because she likes Hololive. We are getting close to Nijisanji levels of bad blood.

>>101245709
Biboo would be down, convincing gura is a whole different story…

>>101245691
Today I will remind them.

>>101245769
Trying too hard, retard.

>>101243230
STFU, retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mogz1WJUjuA

>>101245175
>>101245815
Coverdrones competing with nijisisters for the biggest subhumans award.

>>101241736 (OP)
idk about this one chief
notgura posted her teaser before cover, are you implying she still has insider info of exact times when cover announces stuff?

>>101245924
>Getting this angry about a senzawa stream clip

>>101244530
>COVER rejecting her projects was testing her persistence
I know you're shitposting but if this is true, it's toxic as fuck.

>>101245630
Her 3 tweets have all been almost exactly 2 weeks apart so far. I doubt she got info on EN5's exact release date and scheduled her 2-week teasers to conclude on the exact date of their debut. If she actually did, though, I'd be impressed at that level of hatred.

I wonder if the reason Fauna and Gura randomly became so close was due to their shared hatred of cover. Imagine all the shared masturbation venting sessions we will never get to listen too…

>>101245815
Dooby is probably eating her out as we speak and you faggots keep obsessing over this clip.

>>101245988
You mean the waiting room that was posted 5 days ago and has "BIG NEWS" in giant letters in the thumbnail?
Yeah I'm sure she needed to use her future predicting powers to time her overlap.

>>101246069
>Fauna and Gura randomly became so close
What kind of shitpost angle is this

>>101245693
>>you van just check hololyzer
>ESL and numbermonkey
Name a better duo.

>>101246069
What's so random about Fauna being a fan of Gura, which made Gura approach her, and then the two becoming friends when they share similar sense of humor?

>>101241736 (OP)
Is this how people who feel crushed by their fanbase and overwhelmed by their popularity usually act? She really makes it look like it wasn't an issue at all.

>>101246169
>Company was testing your persistence and ingenuity.
>Crash out because you can't do anything.

Gura screwed Gura.

>>101246114
ooooooh, didnt see that on my sub feed even though im subbed, had to go to the actual channel to see that, my bad

Honest question, is it just me or does this feel like an all out war?

>>101244248
Regis shat on Cover, saying he was disappointed working with them, but no one holds a grudge against him in the same way holodrones did with Fauna (since he is a 3view homo). When you are in Gura's position, different standards will apply.
>But Senzawa getting mad over COVER trying to "replace" her is stupid
that's your wishful thinking holodrone. I can give you like 30 reasons why working with Cover is a terrible idea, and none of them are "Cover might try to replace you"

>>101246146
Because gura is shy and innocent so she has trouble approaching people. Only something as strong as hatred can bring two unlikely people to become friends

>>101246385
>Homoshitter
Opinion invalidated.

>>101245606
Either you're illiterate or a moron. I never said that streaming a lot or being decent at games was somehow bad. I literally said the opposite.

>>101241736 (OP)
>saba is actually Shiina reincarnation confirmed

Belle Delphine tactics

>>101246043
It is not. look at the MYTH that remains, look at the remaining Promise. All of them are persistent.

Most of those who remain took lemons and made lemonade. Gura took the best bred apples and left them to rot.

So 3 more months? Then chumbuds expected to have a stream monthly?

>>101246561
>when coverdrones try to make putting up with bullshit from your bosses sound like a virtue

Look man, at the end of the day, I just hope she becomes more Senzawa than Gura. With how much she hates the company I’d be really hypocritical to just blatantly take everything from the gura persona into her new one.

Kannysieurs huh?

>>101246647
Well... I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

>>101246561
All of them
>are dead set on idol route, something they can't do that well outside of Holo
>wouldn't find much success on their own
>are fine shilling endless merch
That's it. The only way Cover tests persistence is by being utterly incompetent, to the point where some girls can manage themselves better than relying on some Cover manager. Maybe I would believe the "Hololive magic" you are trying to sell here a year or two ago, but we've all seen too much since then.

>>101246647
the only reason she stuck around in Hololive for so long was for paypiggy checks, those paypiggies wouldnt stick around if she went back to being Whorezawa, even as low standards that the chumkeks have that would be too far.

>>101246633
No it isn't. That's the problem with idiots who live in their mother's basements. EVERY company/employer has this point of having to test the employee in how they take adversity. It's one thing to trust the results of a personality test, over actual work. Of course as an employer, you'd need to know if you can trust someone with a great responsibility.

>>101246709
Ina laughs at your stupidity.

>>101246385
Consider necking yourself, sister.

>>101246633
Anon, you've probably made half the posts in this thread. Keep seething and shitting yourself. Hololive isn't going anywhere.

>>101246709
>>101244301

>>101246385
>I can give you like 30 reasons why working with Cover is a terrible idea,
Let's hear them.

>>101246765
Ina spends most of her time in Japan now, shills AmiAmi, and anytime she gets bored she can just return to being full time artist. Most others don't have a secured career route outside of Holo.

>>101241736 (OP)
>be sensawa
>dont stream
>be gura
>dont stream
>be saba
>dont stream
At least she is consistent I'll give her that

>>101246625
>monthly
Every 4 months*

I have never watched a single ex-holo stream and I never will. Die bitch.

>>101241736 (OP)
what concert? i don't watch anything with mori in it

>>101245862
Coomers keep saying that Gura and Shion were okay with pedobait but can't explain the fact that both of them refused to release their daki as graduation merch. Gura has been fighting with management since 2022, after Ina had that 3 month "health" break, while Shion had a 6 month hiatus in 2024. The amount of bad blood that Gura has towards Cover sure makes it feel like they did something with her character that she hated.

>>101241926
That's so hot if true

>>101246740
she's literally THE EN vtuber. if anything cover is the one who needed her. i mean look at the state of EN now, it's not as popular as the myth days

>>101242567
New girl appears. Younger. Knows all the current gen brain rot. Realize how washed up you are in comparison to your replacement. All the brain worms was her own creation.

>>101246999
Really sad that Biboo probably looked up to her, but Gura created a headcanon more toxic than any schizo here has thought of.

>>101243871
chumbuds becoming Hololive antis. What a time line we live in

>>101241926
I sometimes wonder if I'm one of the only people who saw this aspect of her personality the entire time she was around.
I always thought she was pretty funny and entertaining, but I couldn't shake this feeling that she was also very insincere and mean.

>>101246999
Funny how she also refused to collab with Gigi despite collabing with CC and Roara lmao. I'm telling you this is far more than an rrat, you just need some critical thinking to see it.

>>101247057
>I always thought she was pretty funny and entertaining, but I couldn't shake this feeling that she was also very insincere and mean.
Her praises for Mori were likely out of spite.

>>101246998
Yeah because everyone knows Gura still gets 50k like she used to in 2021 and can mog top holoJPs like she could during "the myth days".
Spoiler: she can't even mog mid JPs.

>>101246948
New EN concert, they’ll probably tease EN 5 towards the end

>>101247091
Yeah, exactly. Sounds like she pretty much ghosted her after a certain point, too.
Watching the way she would talk to the chumbuds sometimes also just kinda genuinely gave me the creeps.

>>101247049
>>101247083
In Gura's defense you need to reabsorb yourself into the cringe side of it all and naturally aging takes your interests away from it. Not exposing that divide was the best thing Gura could have done for her brand.

>>101244670
if she returns to stream at her normal time, isn't it advent overlapping her?

>>101246999
Did they ever interact at all besides two seconds in Enreco? It’s genuinely insane that Gura went out of her way to never interact yet still stream over Biboo. Funny nonetheless but also still insane

>>101247138
>inb4 chumbuds and the airbnb.

>>101247057
>I couldn't shake this feeling that she was also very insincere and mean.

Kiara was envious of her and probably held some hatred for her. Despite that, the 2 of them were able to work through that and managed to form a sisterly bond. So yeah, it's just you lol.

>>101247200
I really can't stand those dudes.

>>101247187
For how long is that specific time slot going to belong to her? She barely used it for years even before she actually "retired".

>>101246845
●everything is sponsored
●everything is staged https://youtu.be/hJUsFwoJe_A?t=6829 "It was suggested to us by management"
●everything happens so that they can sell you more merchandise
●new voice packs released every week
●investors and shareholders have more authority than YAGOO
●"We try to save the money sink that's Holoearth by adding more gacha"
●management simps for Holostars and doesn't even bother to hide it
●double standards everywhere (Ollie was chosen over Risu, etc)
●likely impose a multi-year slave contract on their talents to prevent large projects such as Holowitches from falling apart when someone suddenly pulls a Chloe
●kowtowing to Nintendo is the primary priority
●bully culture (Full Color doko)
●hardcore numberfagging is encouraged, as seen in the quarterly report
●hold shitty concerts every year
●peer pressure (guys we want to do this but X member said no, can you go cancel them)
●Gura does a great job doing the 2022 3D live from home, but for some reason, they continue to insist that she visit Japan
●management pet projects such as ENreco at the top
●talents are stripped of freedom by the many types of NDAs
●Cover is getting desperate for worldwide expansion and acting strangely (Keep in mind that my oshi Gura is the first person they would approach for this type of situation.)
●meetings are held frequently and sometimes at unexpected times
●very likely that EN management was bunch of apathetic Indians based on who replied to Jap
●according to Randon (Vesper), management is a bunch of sleeping partners

TLDR: working with Cover sucks if you have moral integrity, but the cons go way deeper than that

and literally a job posting for an "Approval Processing Officer" was recently posted. This begs the question : what have they been up to for the last five years?
https://x.com/cover_corp/status/1934455894504616205

truly amazing developing desu. From an elusive shitposter to biggest vtuber in the world to a washed out lazy hermit to a 4D chess menhera mastermind indie
You couldn't possibly write this shit

>>101247246
LMAO. All of them are headcanon you can't actually prove.

>>101247269
the forced LARPing as an ESL is funny, but obvious.

>>101247095
>comparing to JP
how is it her fault JPs kept spamming events? even without events she's still bigger than any EN streaming today

>>101245771
It's the best possible way to resolve this conflict, anon. We must convince Sharky under all circumstances.

Ill be botting her debut as a loyal chumbud so I can finally win in the numbers thread

>>101241736 (OP)
She did really hate it there, wow
Maybe Hololive is really a black company too

>>101247308
I doubt it's all sunshine and rainbows over there, but she also just seems like a bit of a bitch.

>>101247300
I'm pointing out that she fell off the hardest out of all ENs.
The last time she streamed for more that a few days in a row and didn't have a graduation tour buff was enreco and she barely pulled 13k back then.

>>101244756
And she should care why again? She doesn't work for Cover anymore.

>>101247057
No I definitely saw it too. She’d have moment of pettiness or revenge whenever she perceived that another member was teasing her or “making fun of her”. Not to beat a dead horse since this example is given so many times but go back to when she literally dead dropped Ames irl name during their Minecraft collab out of sheer spite.

>>101247308
>have to stream once a week
>BURN IT DOWN BLACK COMPANY REEEEEE

>>101245202
I specifically remember that too.

>>101247095
nta but I agree with his statement how much hold Gura has. She personified the EN loli chuuba and becomes number 1 because of it. Look at the main heroines in anime that get remembered for ages. Her style also works so well JP bros have just as much love for her as EN ones do. It took until Bijou having presence in JP and Gigi covering EN before Hololive felt they didn't need to cling to Gura who has been grifting for years.

>>101247308
>Okay S**a, I know you're pretty stoked to have 2M fans during the pandemic. We just like to know what you can do in case we're spread too thin with Company resources. It would be great if we have people in the branch who can improvise in case shit happens.

>TEAR IT DOWN, BURN IT DOWN.

>>101241926
She's a woman.

>>101247246
i only count 21

>>101247057
trailer trash women usually are like this, yeah.

>>101247198
Besides the spelling bee, which would be catastrophic drama if she ignored her in, the only other chance to interact was Palworld which she instantly got silent when Biboo joined VC, extremely telling.

>>101247348
Tell that to her. She's the one who's counter-programming. The other graduates have stayed in their lane.

>>101247246
It all seems pretty subjective. Ina and Mori still seem really happy there. I can understand why Gura wouldn't be happy there and would want to leave, but I also don't really think most of this stuff you say is true.
All she had to say upon her graduation was that she didn't like the direction management was taking HoloEN and that her health was suffering for what she felt to be a failure on her part to meet people's expectations both inside and outside of the company. I don't really get the impression that this must mean that Cover is a black company, just a publicly owned corporation.

>>101247420
>health
its called working a job

but now she can go back to streaming two times a month and taking pedobuds money, win win

I think the only thing I don’t like about Gura is that she gives off if I can’t fun no one can energy. I do like her tiny boobs though

>>101247453
If she had legit health issues, she'd be with Shachi legitimately retired!

>>101247413
You still won't answer the question. What obligation does Gura have to "stay in her lane?"

>>101247453
That sure does seem like what she's going to do, but I sincerely hope I'm wrong. It would be cool to see her make music or even just musical shitposts again.

>>101247474
Gura will always be great. I'd argue that she got tired of places like here that only give out negative energy despite the effort she puts in. She suffers from success that comes naturally to her compared to others who have to grind to achieve it. She's got that 2D rizz its just a part of her being. All she attracts as number 1 is envy when she just wanted to have fun being an anime girl. Must be tiring.

You fools! She's itt carefully reading you and planning her next move!

Cumbuds ITT:
>Her overlapping advent and doing all of these things is just a coincidence
>Even if it isn't a coincidence it's fucking based how she's sabotaging her ex colleagues

>>101247300
Don't listen to anyone trying to start "EN CCV vs JP CCV", especially when they use the word "mog"
JP CCV is bloated, likely related to how YouTube decides to calculate numbers for data purposes, something they send to companies to sell ads, and their methods will be different between regions/markets, with EN being their main focus due to ads being more profitable. Other metrics (likes, chatters, members) aren't all that different between EN and JP, you can find EN streams with those being higher despite like half the CCV compared to similar JP streams.

>>101247532
Hi Gura.

>>101247532
I wonder if my cum tributes ever helped her self esteem in knowing that she’s loved by many, including me, and my penis. My penis especially… honestly my penis is doing most of the loving now that I think about it. My penis wins this loving battle 95% to 5%

>>101247600
based, you can't win

>>101247349
That was weird, but Ame's reaction to it gave me the impression that Gura wasn't really crossing a line. Like it seemed like something Gura knew Ame wouldn't be all that bothered by. Considering how close they still are, I doubt there was anything to it.

>>101247606
>GURA IS MORE POPULAR THAN JP VTUBERS YOUTUBE IS CONSPIRING AGAINST HER
Jesus fucking Christ

>>101247661
Aren't those guys fucking incredible lol

>blond
grim

>>101247545
On the 1 in a million chance that she actually is let me just say this, move on, stop being petty, just debut and don't wait for En5 to overlap, with hoe much time you take off clearly your IRL life is more important than this fake anime puppet life is, just move on.

>>101247057
I truly don't see it but I want to. Any clips?

>>101247660
Of all the petty shit I beleeb Gura has done, that one has always striked me as a brain-fart.
Why did she do it bros?

You guys understand that even if she did overlap them, and did so purposefully, that's still not sabotage right?

>>101247693
No, sorry. The depths of my /vt/sisterhood are pretty shallow. I don't have a catalog of evidence; my grudge isn't that deep. I just got kinda bad vibes from her.

>>101247660
>>101247720
....Ame getting upset on Rust was a big hint of what Gura really was like.

>>101241736 (OP)
Gura is #1 and they didn't treat her like it. Japanese corporate culture expects stars to bow to nameless salarymen. Western culture dictates that stars, although employees, get to set the terms of their creative boundaries.

Salarymen fucked up and will regret their culture.

>>101247730
Fair enough

>>101247749
Lol, yeah.

>>101247756
Hey, >>101247749 has one for you. Go hog wild.

>>101246999
Millennial memes are timeless. Zoomer/alpha brainrot is fleeting. Gura will always be funnier.

>>101247728
whatever happens, it can't be twisted to paint her as the petty menhera >we believe she is.

>>101247780
>rose-tinted-glasses.jpg

>>101247749
Idk that gave me the opposite impression. Like if anything, that's how I knew they were actually very close friends and not just good colleagues. Like that's the kind of shit sisters do and say to each other.

>>101247822
see >>101247810

>>101247810
Wrong. Pepes. Wojaks. Literally all well known memes are the basis of meme culture. "Lmao fanum tax ohio" will never stick, and is already gone.

Just take the L because you're clearly a retard.

>>101247693
I don't want to even go looking for it because it was the cringest moment in Hololive history in my opinion, but Gura going silent when Biboo joined a vc she was in , then leaving not long after was fucking brutal. Most evidence thats shes a cliquey bitch.

>>101247780
Zoomer and millennial memes are the exact same shit. There is pre-internet and post-internet.

>>101247545
hey, gura here. just want to say you're all a bunch of retards.

>>101247839
>Wojaks
I miss moot. He wouldn't allow such horrors to persist.

>>101247780
This guy is over 30 LMAOOOO

>>101247755
Cumbuds are stuck in 2021 and don't realize there's at least 50 JP vtubers that destroy her ccv and total channel views
Hell, even fucking Mori destroys her total channel views.

>>101247852
That did not happen lmao

>>101247810
>copout.exe

>>101247931
Yes it did, it was in Palworld, i try to forget it ever happened it was just so god damn cringey holy shit.

>>101247839
>Pepes. Wojaks.
>basis of meme culture
you have to be 18 to post here

I reject every rrat posted here

>>101248001
Timestamp? I personally love cringe shit

>>101247852
>Most evidence thats shes a cliquey bitch.

We already know what that clique was. SNOT.

>>101247057
>>101247349
>>101247693
>>101247730
>everyone forgetting the Myth NA offcollab stream wherein Gura didn't join in with the rest of them being silly and called them cringe in a not-joking way
this was possibly the most egregious example and was the exact moment I realized what Gura really was

>>101248036
Yeah, no. Nimi hasn't been as petty. Mumei is honorable enough to not grift hoomans, and Kronii is still Kronii.

>>101247852
>>101248001
>don't like someone
>avoiding them is cringe and makes you a "cliquey bitch."
Just shut the fuck up, retard.

>>101248060
Post the dang clip

>>101248009
>Gura and Ame on their original outfits
pretty ominous on hindsight

>>101247749
Was it Ame or Gura being toxic? Ame is pretty toxic when she plays competitive games.

>>101247852
>>101248001
Of course you won't mention the context: Biboo joining and starting to scream together with Bae about their own Palworld stuff. Gura was not the only one to leave VC to get some peace and quiet.

>>101247852
'clique usage' well we all know how butt hurt you are sister

>>101247852
>Most evidence thats shes a cliquey bitch
For me it was when she only hung out with Mumei, Fauna, Ceci (sometimes) and when she got jealous about Gigi’s and Ame’s friendship/storyline

>>101247852
If you're talking about the Palworld stream, you're misrepresenting reality. She'd already been in a VC with Bae and others for a good long while at that point. Then Biboo came on and she and Bae started doing some loud anime-rivals schtick they had together. Meanwhile, over in /ggg/, chumbies were literally just starting to say "man, she's been in the group chat for a while, I hope she starts talking to us again soon" because, obviously, it was her first stream in months and we missed her. I know this because I was there when it happened.
It was not some slight against Biboo, that's just brown schizos inventing headcanons again.

>>101248060
made up bullshit

>>101248111
It's so funny how much that shit got to them lmfao

>>101246998
You have misjudged COVER's policies.
Your conclusion that COVER needed gura is also wrong because you misread COVER's policy.
Look at the dev-is dance, dance, dance concert.
And consider the “numbers” of EN and JP graduates.
Clearly, cover now wants to build a hololive deck of cards with members who are passionate about what they do, even if it means a decline in popularity.
In other words, they will not treat members who are popular but not motivating for the team.
If they are not treated well, they will consider graduating.
Today, hololive is more about sweat equity in activities than popularity.

In the past, as you said, the emphasis was on popularity.
However, in the last few years, COVER has been looking for talent to work harder than popularity.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

>>101248159
Talk to 'em, kaigainiki

>>101248106
I don't blame Biboo, when someone avoids you so much you never get the chance to learn how to behave around them, only makes sense Biboo would cling to the person she was getting along with during Palworld streams, and being loud and obvious is Bae's whole thing , of course she'd try to fit in with Bae by being like that. But yeah I do think Biboo should never have joined a vc with Gura in it, she should have known by then it would end in disaster, she's just too naive and looks up to Gura too much to not just give it a single try.

>>101248207
Except Gura was totally fine when Bae was there and chatted with her quite a bit, she specifically only left after Biboo joined.

>>101248141
But why did she stop as soon as Biboo joined? She could’ve stayed even for a few minutes to talk to her kohai, shit even a little oh hi Biboo couldn’t have been so difficult to do

>>101247545
c-cute cute mackerel girl c-cute cute cute!

>>101248251
Was Bae screaming when she was chatting with Gura?

>>101248251
Yeah I know, people like to blame Biboo behavior, but I think it's she was avoided a person not a behavior.

Nobody likes Bae!

>>101248207
Any other way you want to spin that story around to fit into your desired outcome?

this is what you call the face of EN now? lmao
>>101248159
oh yeah no wonder why they treasure those homos so much. quantity before quality amirite lol.

ALL OUT WAR

The new gura will NOT be a loli

>>101248074
The other clique members don't have to be as mean as its queen bitch

>>101248370
>bibot

>>101248343
I like her fat ass

>>101242147
rightfully so
fuck holosharts and fuck japs

>>101248370
>14k peak on part #[X] of a JRPG
You realize the purpose of this genre post is supposed make the person who you're screenshotting look bad, correct?

>>101248358
What's my desired outcome? To point out how Gura avoids Biboo? Okay? Oh and I just remembered the only stream they are in together (Family Feud on Kiara channel), I watched it live and remember being excited to see them interact for the first time but was super disappointed they never did, currently re-watching to make sure they never did. Its just how crazy you can do a whole ass 2 hour stream with someone and not talk to them lol.

>>101248159
If I'm understanding this mess of a DeepLpost correctly, it sounds like Cover is... prioritizing "hard work", effort and compliance over... uh... personality, talent, and results?
... okay? Well, I hate to break it to you JPbro, but... that's an imbecilic policy. How does that change whether Cover "needs" Gura + other popular talents or not? That's like saying you don't "need" to drink water or breathe air because you went on some retarded homeopathic crystal-wiccan diet. You're going to die, even if you follow the diet perfectly - hell, BECAUSE you're following the diet perfectly.

>>101241736 (OP)
>justice 3d debut
Roru, retard alert

chat what do we do if she's not cunny anymore

Chumpedos waiting for Saba's comeback be like waiting for NGNL S2 LMAOOO

>>101248263
Your question was answered in the post you're replying to.

>>101248507
I'm gonna kill myself.

>>101248251
>>101248207
>>101248141
>>101248001
>>101248106
>>101247852
https://www.youtube.com/live/wsKENZOuG5k?si=NvVNXIKpb4sKC_ia&t=11889
You're all retarded. Nobody was screaming, nobody was avoiding anyone, they were literally just doing different shit in game. Literally not awkward at all you socially paranoid psychos.
Fuck you for making me look it up.

>>101248498
>They need Gura
They don't. Look at the earnings report. Cardgame alone is making more money than all other merch sales from the previous years COMBINED. And Gura isn't in it.

>>101248507
The chumpedos will lose their fucking minds, but let’s be real. She’s obviously a loli in a frilly dress.

>>101248580
That's like saying people won't buy Pokemon without Charizard.

>>101247246
Nigga wasn’t bluffing. Literally had 30 reasons locked and loaded

>drops your pokemon
>drops your faggot game

>>101248611
Most of them are headcanon.

>>101248370
I say to you again.
Consider the high popularity of COVER's recent years of graduates.
And consider the high propensity of recent years' subscribers to work hard and be active.
Management's policy for the last few years has been to prioritize high effort over high popularity.
It is stream time rather than CCV.
The time when it was allowed to send data sung at home in 3D live and have dancers substitute for the dancers was in 2021, when Japan was filled with fear of covid.
Nowadays, fans of other companies laugh at you if you don't dance in person in a Japanese studio.
This is the atmosphere of JP fans, including those outside HOLO.
High stream time and 3D recording by the dancers themselves with no substitute dancers, such "sweat" efforts are required.
The CCV and the number of subscribers are high, but the talent who can't respond to them is not in line with the “current” policy of the management.
In the old covid days, this was not a problem.

>>101248559
It's Gura leaving right after that sealed it for me, even if she stayed silent for like 20mins THEN left it would been fine. Clearly Biboo didn't belong, but her trying hard to fit in and failing so miserably its what makes it cringe, I'm not gonna rewatch I would feel like Cooper in Interstellar trying to tell Biboo not to join.

>>101248507
Gura, if you’re here reading this I’m just letting you know. If you’re not a loli anymore… FUCK YOU!!!

>>101248074
>Mumei is honorable enough to not grift hoomans
LOL, Mumei fucking hates her fans more than any of them

>>101247246
I'm indifferent to some of this and in favor of the others. The less control women have over their own creative endeavors the better, and I am not joking.

>>101248495
>Only stream they are in together
Amesame spelling bee?

>>101248705
Based

>>101248498
It is not a question of whether priority of effort is good or bad.
It is an inference that cover's policy has changed to “priority of effort” based on the trend of recent graduates and the trend of recent subscribers.

>>101248559
I didn't say they were "screaming", I said they were doing a loud anime-rivals schtick. And I literally said Gura wasn't avoiding her, aim better.

>>101248717
Well she was a host, she was literally obligated to acknowledge Biboo exists in that stream.

>>101241736 (OP)
This >>101244088 and probably much more
Given how absurdly lazy gura is (and how she really doesnt come off as a bitch) if she's doing this, they must've fucked her over hard, she wouldnt go to this effort for no reason

>>101248696
>>101248074
Reminder: Mumei's graduation had other members singing mumei. Gura's graduation had Gura trashing her soon-to-be former colleagues.

>>101247822
You watch too much damn anime kid. That shit isn't a "lel they are so close how quirky" and even in anime that's a bad joke that's run into the ground.

>>101248559
>Koseki bijou can you just open a slot at you base please
>6 seconds later mutes everyone
LMAOOOO

>>101247246
>●investors and shareholders have more authority than YAGOO
Yagoo still owns the majority.
most of them are bullshit, twisted, or straight up false.
>●hold shitty concerts every year
literally, your opion.
>●new voice packs released every week
>●according to Randon (Vesper), management is a bunch of sleeping partners
the only ones that are true.

>>101241926
She has too much free time.

>>101248477
>sub 20k on average and 21k for a 4 person collab
yeah that's great buddy

>>101247246
Jesus fucking christ this is the level antis are at right now? Like brother my guy how stupid do you need to be to post
>"and literally a job posting for an "Approval Processing Officer" was recently posted. This begs the question : what have they been up to for the last five years?
https://x.com/cover_corp/status/1934455894504616205"
unironically? What, you think a new job posting means that the position couldn't possibly have been filled previously and they're looking for more staff in that role or replacing someone who is about to depart? Are you literally 12 years old or something? I cannot wrap my head around the baffling degree of stupidity to say something that utterly retarded.

>>101248867
For sure.

>>101248727 is me, but from this reasoning EN5 will only hire hardworking people who are willing to respond to stream time, 3D studio recording, and various lessons.
ANON predicts many candidates for EN5.
But applicants who have little stream time, complain, and think that sitting in a chair and talking to a computer in North America is vtuber will not be hired.
Instead, applicants who hear the term "vtuber activity" and think of kizunaAI, which is all about 3D recording, or kaf, who is a singer, or VspoJP, who goes to game competitions and practices hard, or HoloJP dev-is, who takes a lot of dance lessons, may be more likely to get the job.

>>101248914
Straight up, a lot of this specific style of anti posting reeks of someone who has never had a job before.

>>101248892
not better than gura, or will ever be pebblefile

There are no hololive nor gura fans in these threads. Just /#/fags and phasefags.

Is this entire thread just phasecucks talking to eachother or do holo fans now just act like subhuman monkeys? Sure hope it's the former

>>101248856
>literally, your opion.
opinion*.
also, I meant that "shitty" was the opinion.

Is anyone even considering that this is a thing, or is it just the OP agreeing with himself? A 30 second video on Twitter has zero chance of any negative effect for a Youtube announcement stream. If anything it gets more people logging into Twitter to perhaps see the hololive announcement.

>>101248914
Isn't there an approval process in North America?
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/稟議書
It's a support staff for that, so it's not a drafting staff for drafts, it's probably a role to organize drafts and remind key employees of progress.
I think they are auxiliary staff.

So is gura menhera…?

>>101249037
It's the phasecucks having their usual meltdowns

Hololive will never have a talent as popular as gura. Keep seething.

>>101249046
Yeah.

>>101249012

I'm from /biz/ and was just curious what happened to gura, glad to see the 'tism is still strong and that she's coming back as a new character, I originally liked her for her music/sh*tposts 99% of other Female vtubers will never have anything on that.

>>101249064

Also this , they really f'd up in fumbling the world's literal biggest vtuber, should've catered to her every whim just to keep her on.

Big L

>>101249075
>music
>99% of other Female vtubers will never have

At least make it less obvious when your lying chumkek

>>101243825
The other ENs were just as surprised as everyone else when Gura announced her graduation, which means that she didn't tell anybody else exactly when she would graduate. She was definitely waiting for the right time, and it turned out that 4chan dying so /vt/ couldn't react was it.

>>101248892
Literally all these numbers are good?
Like this shit deadass comparable to the numbers Gura would pull when she'd actually stream within a concurrent amount of days of each other (which is more impressive for Biboo considering she streams almost everyday for 5-8 vs post 2022-Gura streaming like 3 times bi-weekly for 5 hours at best)

u guys have nothing better to do than simp and its sad. they are all degenerates just like all of u here

>>101241736 (OP)
Someone tell me how this is petty? One is a teaser and the other is an announcement but it's not like they're overlapping or stealing attention. I can see both if I just scroll down on twitter and seeing one sooner won't make me avoid seeing the other.

>>101249095

Coming out with viral music-memes before she was even gura I don't see your point here , most others are karaoke hacks at best.

>>101247246
>everything is sponsored
yes thats how the industry works
>"It was suggested to us by management"
management suggested they take a relaxing vacation? how terrible
>everything happens so that they can sell you more merchandise
take one step off the train into akiba and get back to me. every anime and japanese video game you have ever played has served this purpose. that's how the industry works.
>new voice packs released every week
oh no! a consistent source of income?! how terrible!
>investors and shareholders have more authority than YAGOO
bit more complex than that but ultimately the sentiment is somewhat correct. the pressure on COVER to endlessly grow is the greater worry. the same is true of any company in this space however, and some are far less ethical in how they accomplish it. 1/30
>"We try to save the money sink that's Holoearth by adding more gacha"
Can't argue with that. Great point. 2/10
>management simps for Holostars and doesn't even bother to hide it
ernoul you gotta give it a rest buddy. you're the only mfer i see bringing up stars all the time.
>double standards everywhere (Ollie was chosen over Risu, etc)
be more specific
>likely impose a multi-year slave contract on their talents to prevent large projects such as Holowitches from falling apart when someone suddenly pulls a Chloe
headcanon
>kowtowing to Nintendo is the primary priority
lol
>bully culture (Full Color doko)
headcanon. gura didn't work.
>hardcore numberfagging is encouraged, as seen in the quarterly report
are you really this retarded?
>hold shitty concerts every year
the concerts are extremely well put together and people keep attending them?
>peer pressure (guys we want to do this but X member said no, can you go cancel them)
wtf are you talking about? this has literally never happened
>Gura does a great job doing the 2022 3D live from home, but for some reason, they continue to insist that she visit Japan
headcanon
>management pet projects such as ENreco at the top
management doing their jobs is a problem?
>talents are stripped of freedom by the many types of NDAs
see: Randon (Vesper) explain NDAs. headcanon.
>Cover is getting desperate for worldwide expansion and acting strangely (Keep in mind that my oshi Gura is the first person they would approach for this type of situation.)
be more specific
>meetings are held frequently and sometimes at unexpected times
minor inconvenience; headcanon to believe this is a major issue
>very likely that EN management was bunch of apathetic Indians based on who replied to Jap
weird headcanon
>according to Randon (Vesper), management is a bunch of sleeping partners
there is incentive for management to be risk averse, and this has been an issue in the past. less so these days. 3/10.

you raised 3 reasonable complaints, the rest was nonsense. ironically you would be an awful manager.

>>101249075
>music
>99% of other Female vtubers will never have anything on that.
Cumbuds are living parodies

>>101249125
You don't watch vtubers, why are you still having this conversation?

>>101249064
>Hololive will never have a talent as popular as gura
Marine will unironically wind up passing within a year or so

>>101249112
Please step on me more Saba-sama~

>>101249125
Gura has colleagues who have songs that have 1/4 of her total channel views
Her music is completely irrelevant in the greater vtuber sphere

>>101249131
Corpocuck

>>101248659
they were doing different things in-game?? they weren't partying up. you're projecting your own narrative onto it

>>101249064
>Hololive will never have a talent as popular as gura. Keep seething.
Uhuh.
I'm not even going to bother comparing her metrics compared to holoJPs. It's a complete massacre.

>>101249184
https://warosu.org/vt/image/ybOnatajfHlzjBbkVjQc3w
You are mentally ill

>>101244599
>doesn't cause intentional harm
It's already known that she's petty, but she's also too weak-willed to properly carry it out.

>>101249199
I can tell you've never had a job.

>>101249211
You realize that she's not streaming anymore right? The fact she is still this high shows her popularity.

>>101249222
dosen't change his point desu

>>101249237
I took this screenshot when she was still streaming. I assume the gap between her and Mori got even larger.

I want to marry Biboo so much, she's so cute

>>101248828
>"lel they are so close how quirky"
???
When people are close they can step on each other's toes. You can't be so robotic and repressed that you never have any disagreements or little conflicts between you and your loved ones, surely. I really worry about some of you.

>>101249211
>Mori has the same amount of views in a month as a talent who graduated 2 months ago
>everyone else have substantially less views
Jesus christ lmao, HoloEN is a flop. Did you think that this was an own or something?

>>101248892
Biboo is botted, you're replying to a falseflagging pebble

>>101249266
>>101249250

>>101248477
Biboo is the most botted holo and still half of what gura averages, yet pebblefiles still try to make her seem like the 2nd coming of gura. It's embarrasing

>>101249266
>Le Mori is bad.
Another instance of "chumbuds" being stuck in 2021

Why are holodrones / numbermonkeys like that?
Saba doesn't owe Hololive anything, she can stream / post updates whenever she wants to.

>>101249307
>pebblefiles still try to make her seem like the 2nd coming of gura
no one does this

>>101249307
biboo is not funny or clever and doesnt make an attempt to maybe if she streamed less duration but actually put more effort in than just a cute voice which literally every female streamer on twitch also does

>>101248580
>They don't need idols to sell idol merch
>They just need to totally change business models and pivot to an OCG money printer as a crutch
By your idiot logic they don't "need" ANY of their talents.
Changing to an entirely different product is one thing, but if they do, then they're no longer a vtuber or virtual idol agency. If they want to be a virtual idol agency, then sorry, but you 100% need to have actual talents for that.

>>101249347
none of them are idols LOL and vtubers are a cancer for society

>>101249347
They don't need Gura specifically. The JPs they do need to print moneyare hyper loyal.
Simple as.

>>101249362
average /vt/ poster in 2025

>>101245171
One of those projects was turning into a react andy

>>101249064
https://vt.poi.cat/channel/views
Please put holoJP and niji in the checkbox of your settings and look at the number of views.
There are over 1 billion talents.
A vtuber with about 400 million views is not the best vtuber in the world.

>340 posts of this shit again
I see this shithole has not changed. Even if dead internet theory isn't real, you guys act like bots anyway so it might as well be.

>>101246647
>more Senzawa than Gura
It's too late as of this reveal

>>101249211
>>101249250
This cope was always hilarious considering Mori has ten trillion songs on her channel. Goes to show that you gibbering numbermonkey retards literally can't tell the difference between genuine channel size and an inflated view count from an unrelenting torrent of spam.
Oh, and the so-called "massacre" when comparing to JP metrics completely collapses on itself when you stop ignoring the inconvenient fact that being big in the West is far, FAR more significant than being big in Japan.
You may now huff your copium and deploy your next red herring.

>>101247161
Mori's interests are more distant from Biboo's than Gura's ever were, yet she still took on the senpai role.

>>101249379
A bit TOO "simple", frankly.
As fairy tales often are.

>>101247274

>>101249456
>gura making a move to grab attention after weeks of silence, timed identically to a major EN announcement, is coincidence because i-it just is okay!?

she could straight up say she fucking hates hololive and some people here would still say it's schizo delusional rrats. not saying she'll do some full retard nijiEN crashout either, in fact I'm expecting she'll stay professional and above the belt because getting too deep into drama is also bad for her own career hence money which she would not want to endanger. but you'd have to be real, real real fucking stupid to think there's nothing to comment on with this.

>>101249307
>>101249307
>Biboo is the most botted holo and still half of what gura averages
Stop coping fag lol
You can't simultaneously say
>Huuuur duuur Gura has better noomber than Biboo!!
But also
>Noooooooo it doesn't count cuz muh botz!!!
When it turns out their CCV averages are closer than you'd hope
If Gura/Saba had anything resembling normal schedule instead of this "I only show up once every 4 months" bullshit, then Biboo would mog her

>>101249522
>you can’t say Gura gets better numbers and also point out that Biboo is botted
Uhh yes you can? What kind of retarded logic is this?

>>101249522
>Unbotted Biboo
>Mogging a non-semi-retired Gura
Is there a name for this type of mental illness?

>>101249231
>Just because you didn't commit the crime doesn't make you innocent because *cope cope cope*
There's desperation and then there's... THIS. Thanks for the laugh anon.

>>101244687
>Roa
Retard.

Brown thread

>>101249506
>You can't compare Gura to others because they release way more content!
If you can't compare Gura to literally any other vtuber then yeah sure, she's number 1.

>>101249564
>Is there a name for this type of mental illness?
Yes, it's called "Not living in 2021-itous"

>>101249307
>101249266
>101249249
>101249237
>101249222
>101249199
>101249137
>101249095
>101249064
>101249056
>101249025
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>>101243807
Interesting

>>101249639
nta, but 2021 was before gura taking breaks more often, so i think the image posted of "gura streaming regularly" from 2023 should be the one from 2021 or early 2022 for comparison

>>101249564
Advent babies don’t realize Gura was always in her weakest state against advent and still mogged the entire gen despite all their botting and raid spam. A consistent prime Saba would eat the entirety of holoEN alive

>>101249661
>A consistent prime Saba

Saba is actually the first EN5 member
How would you react?

Told ya they'll turn on you chumbuds. They always do.

>>101249087
>the corpo should just show favoritism lmao

>>101249687
Not really. I've liked Nimi more that I can say I like Fauna.

What Saba is doing is petty as fuck.

>Try to prove your subcount isn't the result of happenstance, then we can give you your projects
>BURN IT DOWN TEAR IT DOWN.

>>101249723
headcanon

>>101249731
it isn't. Every single one of Myth was tested the same way. It isn't a secret why the people with work ethic remain.

>>101249687
I called Gura a lazy piece of grifting shit back in 2022. Her leaving hololive didn't change my opinion of her in any way.

>>101248667
Drop the rest of the set right now you son of a bitch I NEED IT

>>101249661
>A consistent prime Saba
>Consistent
Yeah they'll be fine

>>101249774
>Try to prove your subcount isn't the result of happenstance, then we can give you your projects
post any evidence management said this to her

Was it really so difficult to just stream

>>101249820
You have a point, if not fort other members getting their projects done and yours are the only ones being snubbed.

>>101249064
>>101249095
>deleted at the same time
how many of the posts in this thread are selenfag on different devices and how many retards fell for it?

>lazy gura copy paste job
>but with long hair
>and blonde
hard pass.

>>101249621
>admits that literally every single example of a "bigger" vtuber is pure potemkin statistics
I'm sorry for your loss anon, may your red herring rest in peace

>>101249639
Eh, too broad. They aren't living in 2025 either after all - or... ANY point in time. In our reality, at least.

>>101246143
Retard can't differentiate between mistyping and bad grammar.

>>101249707
What else do the voices tell you?

>>101245163
Can't believe this board actually defends the worst company practices on the planet now just to get a dig in on a "traitor" rofl

>>101249967
>"We have corpse here, can you prove the cause of death was specifically being strangled to death by his own uvula?"
>Ermmmmmm the proof is that he's DEAD? Obviously??? kek lol lmao
^ This is (You) right now

>>101248477
>Expedition 33
>JRPG

Bait used to be believable

>>101245693
this board is a bunch of free loaders who don't even watch streams so what's your point? they don't affect super chats

>>101250206
>If you manipulate the data set to get the result I want and ignore almost the entirety of it then I'm right!
Jesus Christ cumbuds are embarrassing

>>101249281
>muh bots

Stfu ennacuck

>>101245163
>They were testing her to see if she was a spineless, compliant doormat
>She "failed" the character test passed, really by not bending the knee
... I'm sorry, how does this reflect poorly on her again?

>>101249661
Saba is going to do REACT content and will be without Cover's blessing. And I'm awaiting the google dockeys, which will happen as the indie scene is a crab bucket.

>>101249723
it literally doesn't matter if her popularity was happenstance or not they should have used it

>>101250354
>>She "failed" the character test passed, really by not bending the knee
Americans falling for the biggest commie grift is never not funny.

Wake up, you have been unironically been made to believe that Entrepreneurship is bad to break the basis of what made America a superpower. People from other powers , particularly Russia, China and Saudi all want the US to crumble and you're doing a great job helping them

>>101250298
>Basic isolation and correction for confounding variables is "manipulating the data set"
>Don't find the truth in the numbers, just mindlessly, uncritically throw in all the noise you possibly can to maximally obfuscate it
>Critical thinking is BAD, truth and reality is BAD, my fantasy spreadsheet headcanon GOOD
This sort of excelbrained midwittery is why you're shitting up /vt/ bait threads from the mudhutvillage pigshack-turned-internet-cafe and not a data scientist. Your embarrassment is firsthand, not secondhand.

>>101249696
they already do, for the jp resident corpo bootlickers

>>101249967
Other members work
She didn't work
Simple as
I say this as someone who is glad Gura is doing things her own way and is excited for Saba. I completely understand how fucking bad burnout can get, sometimes you just can't make it work and need to have a total change of environment.

>>101250506
This anon is proving himself to be a NEET after all.

>>101250287
It's a JRPG the same way Undertale is a JRPG. JRPG is a style, just like anime is a style.

>>101250460
>Being buckbroken corporate wageslaves is what made America a superpower
>Ignore India, China, Korea, Japan, etc. all being far more obsessed with the perpetual soulless bugman grind for far longer than Westerners, but not achieving the same result
>Ignore World War 2 destroying the rest of the civilized world except for America
>Ignore that we, and every other member of the Concert of Europe, were already great imperial powers BEFORE the spread of corporatism
>If you question the boomer-truth-regime's retarded liberal founding mythos, you're a commie just ignore what the likes of Nietzsche, Spengler, Carlyle, Evola, and so on had to say about capitalism
Alright, fess up - who the fuck showed grampa how to post on 4chan

>>101250591
>Muh boomer
>Philosophy 101 All-stars

You have to be 18+ to post, edgelord.

>>101250460
But Gura left to literally become an entrepreneur? Also if Russia and China are superpowers in your mind, wouldn't it be sound advice for Russians and Chinese to be communists? After all, communism is what made them superpowers.
Also lets not look at the economic policies of the USA during it's strongest economic output, WW2. You know, the systems that *really* made the USA a global economic hegemony. You're not going to like their ideas and inspiration.

>>101250687
NTA, but this is what makes me worry. We're due for one big WAR because All these companies crave money and the new Phones and Gadgets aren't sufficient anymore for profit.

>>101241736 (OP)
This thread shows the sheer quality gura has over most vtubers. Look how easy it is to make rrats thanks to her doing things, justice and advent kinda suck for discussion outside of nerissa and the dogs.

>>101250756
>Dramafag exposes himself.

>>101250716
>profit
Profit is bad, didn't you know? The goal isn't to profit, it's to destroy the competition at a loss while being propped up by VCs so you can establish a monopoly.

>>101250650
>Spengler, Evola, Carlyle
>"Philosophy 101"
Boomer-kun, it's fine if you've never taken a philosophy course in your life and don't know what material would actually be taught in 101, there's no need to out yourself as a pseud.
Hint: for "101 All Stars", think Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, the Stoics/Cynics/Epicureans, Descartes, Kant, Hume, Spinoza, Locke, Marx, etc. NOT Evola or fucking Spengler. Are you fucking high? What's next, will you LARP like you were taught Guenon and Pareto and Marcuse in elementary school? Get fucking real.
In any case, you dodged the main point, which is that the myths of boomer liberal productivity-worship are losing credibility amongst the people. Frankly, because they're anti-White. Endless work is for bugman monsoon cultures: Europeans have to deal with harsh winters and wheat harvest cycles, not rice harvest cycles. We understand the value of relaxation and leisure time, and that was ALWAYS one of the key traits that distinguished us as superior to the lesser, petty-minded races.

>>101250860
Post hands

>>101250860
yeah nah you look at esoteric /lit/ charts and say yep good enough

>>101250545
In that case Anachronox is a JRPG. Do your fucking reps.

>>101250974
It is, thanks for asking.

>>101251054
Based.