Unaware Polyamory Edition
Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.
Henya is LIVE! With Wind Waker. And Mouse is LIVE! Yapping with Geega and looking at fridges. That's it for now so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.
Image source: https://twitter.com/TaiRantsYT/status/1934232118642806804
VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
GEEGA - https://www.twitch.tv/geega | https://www.youtube.com/@GEEGA
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya | https://www.youtube.com/@zentreya
Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo
Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussion
Previous Thread:
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>>101278403Mouse play the horny demon game on discord
>>101282339Mouse hate her community so no discord streams for you.
>>101282649Based greedy bitch
So Geega is trying to get fat?
>>101282696more so of trying to regain the weight she lost from being very ill
>>101282339>Making content for 100-200 Discord troglodytes>No model onscreen>Terrible bitrate>She makes no money from doing shit on Discord>Time could be spent doing an actual stream which she profits off multiple waysThis is why Roxy is a dogshit manager and you anons pushing for this don't have her best interests in mind.
>>101282649Her community is on Twitch not Discord. The turn out for Discord movies is incredibly low.
Clean your fucking fridge
>>101282696She said she eats 4 times a day but I bet it's like 3 scoops per meal and then she stops.
>>101282206 (OP)Will VShojo attend AX to reveal the new EN members?
>>101282913>Making content for 100-200 Discord troglodytes200-300 paying members.
>No model onscreenShe can have the model on screen if she wanted.
>Terrible bitrate>She makes no money from doing shit on DiscordPeople pay to be their through either subs or patreon, would be nice to get something for that.
>Time could be spent doing an actual stream which she profits off multiple waysPeople deserve to get something extra for being a supporter.
>>101282969They were still worth it and number are not everything.
>>101283004The new member is me.
>>101282913Mouse would get more money from patron if there was actual rewards for paying.
I'm actually disappointed Mouse isn't leaving for vchiban
Geega doesn't likes black bananas
>>101283108This hotadog is tasty
Why the fuck is she so fucking god damn seductive
Geega is such an arrogant person
>>101284192she's knows everything and is always right
surely
>>101283901domestic abuse in 3months
https://youtu.be/0xVcr-q5e5M
>>101284980connor took this from us
>>101284980God I miss degenerate Mouse
>>101285051I don't agree
>>101285051connor is the best thing to happen to mouse to make you specifically seethe you 30+ 400lb loser.
>>101285051Look, if I genuinely thought for a second that Connor did take lewd Mouse from us I would be upset with him but I just don't see it.
He talks about jerking off, about hentai and plenty of other degenerate things, he also found Mouse while she was lewd and he liked who she was enough to reach out to her and start collabing, why would he make her change from from that.
>>101285278Mouse only cares about Connor now, she even forgot Mel when asked about a turning point of her life.
>>101285443they just had a talk last night anon
They might as well just ignore the fridges and just chat.
>>101285688mmm, did that hit well in chat? or did you get ignored by them again?
>>101285800feeling called out huh?
>>101285813No, I just don't know what you are talking about
>>101285845I'm on to you Timmy.
>>101285867you really do just talk to yourself dont you? because why are you pretending to be someone else right now
>>101285867Are you good?
I'm just saying they might as well just yap, the fridges aren't really adding much.
>>101285888>>101285897>he's phoneposting again
>>101285897Almost as if a community stream is better off being solo between Mouse and the community.
>we need people to hop on and do nonstop minecraft for weeks lets go
no geega we in fact do not need that.
>>101286557If there is anything I've learned since Geega joined Vshojo it is that she has some of the worst ideas.
>>101286606she didnt meet them
Geega said she's getting a group for a full playthrough of Grounded 2. So far it's just her and Limes.
Gaming ruined Mouse's streams
Sekiro will be way too hard for Mouse
>>101286771I vote gaming every time just to piss you off.
>>101286771There is a reason the biggest streamers mainly don't do gaming.
funny how the mousesperg that complained about no vshojo collabs now spergs about mouse having collabs at all
>>101287134I payed alot of money for those subgoals
>>101287134vshojo beggars are just that, vshojo beggars.
Collabs are fun but Solo is king.
>>101287048who the fuck is alex
>>101287134Nuance exists.
>>101287169feeling called out?
>>101287134valid criticism exists
>>101287072yeah it's politslop instead
>>101287178if it makes you feel better buddy
>>101287153>>101287162>>101287174>>101287195nobody cares retard, stop shitting up the thread
>>101287153Your $10 don't mean shit.
Mouse has 28 models as sub goals.
Maybe Sinder wasn't in the wrong after all...
>>101287174>>101287195Neither can be found here
>chat doesn't know who is making it
>meanwhile the rigger
https://x.com/ransom_vt/status/1933625243756867689
And Kamo drew it.
>Mouse agreeing with Geega
Why does Mouse always change her opinion depending who she's talking to.
We know Mouse likes teasing and leaking models but she can't anymore.
>>101287478I'm not liking this trend of Mouse in nerfing the BLTs.
>>101287514It just depends on the model, Decora has great BLTs.
Mouse and Geega heavily hinting that there is a reason both of their upcoming models have a big weapon.
>>101287561Oh I guess that's the matching outfit thing. I've always thought it was gonna be with Froot for some reason.
>>101287514I mean.. They look bigger than they did on Cybermouse though it's the same rigger and artist. Though I feel like Ransom dropped the ball when rigging them last time, in motion they looked flatter than they were drawn.
>>101287603>>101287607>this needs to be a dakiwelp
>This needs to be a daki
Guess Mouse only makes joke dakis now, rip to the 7 other dakis planned.
>Passionately kissing Mouse
>Geegussy down bottom
>Michi getting cucked in the middle
It's the perfect daki.
>>101287634Ransom can do great boobs
https://x.com/ransom_vt/status/1863860278150176940
>>101287603>one ticket for sinners pls
Sex with Geega chibi daki while Mouse and Michi chibi dakis watch.
I don't mind meme merch but I prefer non meme merch.
>>101287703I want some sexy Mouse merch again.
Sexy also sells well
>>101287636>>101287646>Mouse with a smug expression>Michi making a lewd face as she'll be the one on the receiving end>Geega with a disgusted look as she's getting teabaggedMake it happen.
>geega wants to have the cleaning schedule of a 50s housewife
kek
>>101287883She wants to be wifed, but without the husband.
If Geega is 40 years old, how fucking old is her grandparent?
remember back when we /in/posted doki
>Mouse's mom doesn't believe in dishwashers or washing machines
wow, she's extremely old
can mousefags stop shitting up every thread?
>>101288066Here's your (you). You earned it.
>>101288001I was the only one that /in/ posted her.
>>101288164Unfortunately Doki only hires retarded managers.
Here's your Mouse x Geega podcast. Enjoy
>>101288205I'm enjoying it.
Geega really staying up late for this yap session
>>101288348She said her bedtime is usually 7am.
>>101288359Ah, I missed that.
I love when Mouse says pussy.
I don't know if I've missed any but it feels like its been a while
>The amount of chatters that think they're literally talking about slime tutorials
>The ones saying to ask Candii
Typical Vchiban viewers.
>>101288997what are they talking about? I zoned out.
>>101289027slime tutorials
>>101289027Watching unofficial recordings of musicals on YT I believe.
Mouse is going to spam vshojo collabs because of the shitty vshojo beggar isn't she.
>>101289177Connor was pressuring her
>Mouse want to do a fashion review with Michi
looking forward to it
>>101289177Fuck off Candii.
The takeaway from that podcast was that there is no Minecraft server coming.
Poll the number of gooners
https://poal.me/h6ngkl
https://poal.me/h6ngkl
https://poal.me/h6ngkl
>>101289324Why can we only pick one?
>>101289334It is your most gooning goon
>>101289324I meant for Mouse's chat census
I thought Twitch banned gambling.
>>101289362Twitch banned illegal gambling. Kick's gambling site is illegal in America.
Mouse trying to organize tabletop sim Wednesday with some of the girls.
>>101289177Fucking called it.
Fuck the vshojo beggar
mouse you can't keep ignoring previous games for new games or you will fall into the same trap you are trying to get out of. focus on what you have to finish first.
Poll the number of niggers
>>101289415At least that will be one more subgoal down.
If she keeps doing 1 a week she'll be done in just under 4 years.
>>101289435fuck I hate vshojo so much
>>101289465No but Mouse has a habit of doing all or nothing with things and I like solo more.
>>101289446Hopefully the Connor streams land on the ADHD game days so that the games get cancelled and she forgets about them.
>>101289446or just admit you are going to drop some of them.
Didn't Mouse start a horror game recently she still needs to finish?
>>101289565At least she said she didn't want to keep playing Dishonored and said she wanted to stop. She played Oblivion and hasn't said she wants to play every day since. It isn't a big deal at all to drop games, it bad to say we will play this game tomorrow or next stream every stream and ten streams later it hasn't been touched.
>>101289788dont remind her because she added two more that she doesnt need to play
What was mouse announcement?
mouse almost sounded like she liked that kek
>>101289871announcement of an announcement of merch
>>101289994Feels like a while since she looked at the chat submitted videos.
Concert at twitch con? That’s great but Who this concert is supposed to be for? Vtuber fans?
mouse planning baby murder in-game
https://www.twitch.tv/2wintails
2win working on the mouse anniversary model again
>I'm not leaving vshojo
But I want you to leave vshojo
>I'm not leaving vshojo
Get fucked sperg.
>I'm not leaving vshojo
kek sperg btfo
>>101290530I want you to leave life
was there speculation outside of this thread?
>>101290530nobody cares what you want retarded whiner
Which girl should get a goria model next
>>101290572If she leaves Vshojo hopefully she gains the emotional strength to leave Connor
>>101290613Try taking your meds instead
>>101290613connor best thing to ever happen to her shy do you want to make mouse sad?
>>101290613damn you been on one all day hate watching mouse
>>101290636>>101290682>>101290714you're posting habits are way too obvious tim KEKAROO
>>101290530ahahahahahaha
>schizo posts about mouse quitting, ignoring zen, hating others, gets btfo by mouse being close to michi, sending message to zen on stream, planning more collabs in the next 2 weeks>schizo changes target to sperg about collabs and lack of single player games, mouse immediately plans ds2, btfo again>mouse says in the clearest way that she's not leaving vshojo, btfo againTimmy stop, you can't take much more. You'll end up like pet schizo.
>>101290732nta
doesn't tim hate mouse?
>>101290767>sending message to zen on streamwe making things up now huh
>>101290732nigga cant read
>>101290793watch stream loser
>>101290790wanting mouse to stay with Connor is clear anti behavior
>>101290826same to you instead of thread reading
>candii starts stream
>mouse suddenly starts saying she is tired and needs to end soon
Crazy coincidence.
>>101290560Its not like its unusual for her to be here, we've had confirmation enough
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>Mouse talking about starting the new fnaf game
Mouse you still have to finish sister location at least. And then you still have other games you need to finish before starting a new one. Expedition 33 at the very least.
What's the point of making a new Bubi model? He only appears like once a year and hasn't streamed on his own channel since 2022
>>101290943he already got a new model
>>101290940the biggest thing stopping her from completely old games is her need to immediately play new ones.
Mouse looking for an excuse to retcon the first 4 years of streaming
I miss parts of old Mouse
Mouse will be premiering a new song and video on her anniversary.
>>101291108At what point does a skirt become a low tube top?
Is Mouse going to ever do normal ass merch again?
Posters, deskmats, mouse pads, dakis
>>101290831thats retarded
>>101291108I hope her panties flash a little when she moves around.
>>101291133she was only counting twitch streams lol
>>101290877brother she said it after geega left and I hate candi.
>>101291230It's 2win that isn't really her thing as far as I know.
>>101291108mouse really going the thicc pettie route
>>101291262ya 2win doesn't do that also barely any booba jiggle
When was the last time Mouse went a whole stream without mentioning her bf?
>>101291428There were some where her stream crashed before she could. If those don't count then 2021.
Great stream mouse, the sperg got btfo hard
Going back in time to make Geega more feminine
>>101282339I hope Mouse does this.
sperging works. ironmouse reads these threads and either reevaluated her behavior and remembered the other vshojo members exists or she collabed with geega to spite posters in here. either way a win for us vshojo fans and a loss for mousefags
>>101291619If that were the case she would have stopped ignoring Zen months ago.
>>101291631maybe she visits periodically
>>101291631She literally worked with Zen on a song retard, sperging doesn't work though because all the complaints were retarded in the first place.
>>101291719>ignores vshojo>vshojoGODS rightfully criticizes her while mousetraps sperg out, lie, make up stuff and try to deflect the blame>suddenly vshojo collabit just works
>>101291428does it hurt u?
>>101291719Did she? Because as far as Mouse has been concerned that song never happened.
>>101291631nah fuck zen and her legion of 2 view fleas mouse already got bit by a few
some of y'all taking it a bit too far with the shitposting ngl
>>101291619>sperg keeps begging mouse to leave or he'll keep shitting up thread >mouse reinstates that she won't>"how can i spin this as a win for me"Goalposts are not your forte
I will cum on the Melly belly
>>101291619the only one mouse listens to is me progress is slow but steady soon he will be removed forever
I will cum in the Melly belly
>>101292017You make it more likely she will stick with him out of spite even if he wasn't nice to her.
>>101292192I will thrust my rocket into jewish lands if you know what I mean.
>>101291855yeah, I get what site we're on, but since the people we talk about actually sometimes read what is written here I feel bad
>>101292388inshallah, brother
i'll show her the meaning of the term 'fertile crescent'
Hey so expect the schizo to go nuclear on the catalog and here today a pippa/kirschefag was caught and arrested for trying to shoot up a protest and jannies are insta nuking any thread mentioning it
>>101292703It’s a cute femboy too
>>101292703we're hitting record breaking highs of every.fucking.time.
>>101292703Checks out. All the bait threads just got bumped up kek
>>101292703so why are you mentioning it here
>>101292703Imagine going to the catalog. Also tabs.
>>101292957https://youtu.be/lNljm_dPg4o?si=Aie7qmkdOOGLMOcy&t=229
>>101293019and where's the proof that he was a pippafag? your crack pipe?
>>101293053 (me)
nevermind. I just got to the part with the printed pic of her.
How can I achieve this state of persecution complex and mental gymnastics? (Without being black)
>>101293205can you elaborate?
>>101292017remember if hes not gone this year you said you will finally kill yourself as a promise.
>>101293205You're already doing it, congrats
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>>101293259Monkesperg killing himself will be the best thing this year.
>>101293249How can I become so disconnected from reality that when a pippafag gets arrested I automatically assume "some entity" is going to target this thread?
>>101292703>phasegods appearing in the news trying to change society for what they believe in while the only change vshocels want to bring is a change in their diaper after they shit and piss in itgrim
Zen and Calli art
https://x.com/TheBigBad_Z/status/1934641284582695274
>>101292703but I was told Pippa stopped catering to far right freaks?
>>101293343because we are the protagonists of /vt/ and every single schizo on this board is conspiring to take us down
>>101293445I think this is actually what some believe
Like they also believe that there is only one schizo and it’s conveniently exactly that twitter freak whose tweets they just posted
>>101293546I think it’s John now
>>101293423well, to be fair, she never tried to cater to them in the first place, but this didnt stop them from watching her. last time I checked her twitch stream (because she's in my recommended) she was watching vids about different type of charcoal grill and how to maintain them.
>>101293540What's the kuro got for today?
>>101293357I wish all phase"gods" would go out trying to change society in that way.
>>101293594she didn't directly cater to them, but by being a /here/tuber she definitely opened a gateway to them, as there's a big overlap between far right schizos and catalogfags
>>101293343Because mouse is genuinely the most hated on chuba in this board. That is why you’ll never ever see a mouse # OP despite being on of the top in numbers.
>>101293594>she never tried to cater to them in the first placeI don't give a shit about what she does nowadays but this is completely false lmao
Haven't watched Kuro in a while, holy shit he just gets cuter and cuter with every new model
>>101293672I have never seen anyone besides holo in their Op, maybe ex holos but very rarely
>>101293677yeah remember she was in kiwifarms long before /here/
Notice kuro started to be open about being a femboy when froogposters aren’t around anymore. He was afraid around those chasers.
>>101293677she dosn't pander to them openly like Kirsche, instead she does it indirectly by using dogwhistles and "just harmless memes bro"
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>>101293703I have seen mint, Niji boys and even some 2view despite them saying they hate niji or phase but deep down They just hate mouse and personally I might have an idea but I’m not sure why
101293672
It's a holo thread. Also
>mouse
>top numbers
On twitch then yeah on the EN side. When compared to pekora? not really
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Mating press while lovingly handholding
>>101293672It's a holo thread. Also
>mouse>top numbersOn twitch then yeah on the EN side. When compared to pekora? not really
>>101293672the latest bait thread they are so retarded its funny
>Kuro accidentally starting the SOS
I didn't even know phones had a feature like that
>>101293847comparing the popularity of two people who focus on two different markets is nonsensical
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>>101293847This is from cover financial report. Your opinion is invalid
>>101293960Mouse cheats via sleepathons.
>>101293960No shit mouse is going to have a ton of watched hours she streams more than all of holoen combined
>>101294018That’s not the point of discussion.
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Kuro's so special
I want you to know that it was me that reported Johnstein.
Why is Kuro continusly bleeding viewers?
>>101294077Model too sex for the weak
Btw there’s an actual number monkey here who a regular poster camper here. Spotted their image hash on #. Just too lazy to expose him. He knows him self
>>101294055The one who archives Mouse is. why?
>>101294097I mean it's pretty obvious with the language he's using lol
>>101293799And have you seen any other twitch streamer (dual streamers don’t count) I think the just hate twitch and Mouse as a para pro toto
>>101294072who the fuck is johnstein
>>101294115i need help using twitchrecorder
>>101294146The most viewed en vtuber on yt is still IronMouse believe it or not
>>101294178Ah I've never used it before.
I believe Nyan archiver had a guide on it.
Found it https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MR48duo8FmpUIVGPvDRzBd3y5HnalrF1wmiS9fO99N4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.y58ubx58pw8j
>>101294338i am having an advanced issue that will require either the author of the program of someone who understands twitch api to fix
>>101294325I don't and it doesn't matter even if it was true
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Why didn't Zen post any of her actual pets?
>>101294701Zen stopped posting her Beagles for some reasons, maybe she got scared that they get recognized?
>>101294705this but it's armpit sex specifically
>>101294701Zen and her real pet
>>101294937This but mamanya
kuro would rather have a bandage over his mouth and leave the crying toggle on then have his tracking remotely look like it's from niji
>>101294937Indeed
All of the sex woth Henya
she's so drippy bros...
https://youtu.be/_E-FxxUJkhM?si=mmZwCdzVosg7NcV5
I love Ironmouse very much
>>101295603Lol he saw my post and got upset
>>101295760
I like using Nagi as background noise even though I don't speak Japanese.
>>101295603>>101295921Great on topic posts about VShojo! Please post more. I don’t want to miss a single catalog post.
RIP MICHI
https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1934977003528266198
>>101295995more on patreon
I miss 2021 Mouse.
lewd merch and patreon content being made and discord still had nsfw channels and Mouse liked her nswf art back then.
Go back to your bait catalog and bump it
>>101296704Who are you talking to
https://x.com/eughfish/status/1934989797699014826
>>101296653https://youtu.be/0xVcr-q5e5M
>>101296817Is tim just anyone you don't like.
>>101296998amnesia anon stop pretending to be another anons, shit is weird as fuck
>>101297160calm down timmy
>>101296340>Lewotobi is a twin volcano located in the southeastern part of the island of Flores, Indonesia. It has two peaks; the Lewotobi Laki-laki (Male Lewotobi) and Lewotobi Perempuan (Female Lewotobi) stratovolcanoes.I don't think Michi lives there.
Michi speaks Indonesian and Javanese
Zen awake and starting soon. looks like a 3d update today
I want to give Melody an hour long rimjob
>>101296653We lost a chuck of who Mouse is along the way.
oh by the way in + news. the tease is no longer a thing. broccoli kitty has posted to a spicy site.
>Kuro gets a twink model
>His rigger becomes a twink too
it's infectious
https://x.com/ppslayer_vt/status/1934984882339402217
Zen's best model is finally back.
>>101296825Why is Henya green ?
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PEKE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE TITANIC IS NOT WORTH IT
>>101296825MY NIGGA GLUNK
>>101298182Best model with the helmet on
off now that's a different story
>>101298286The helmet off is the best part. Its her best look.
>>101298374Wonder if it got tweaked in the update
Nice glow up, face looks pretty decent now
>>101298438holy shit badass
>>101298468...meh
went from ps2 face to ps3 face
>>101298485Its literally just the better lighting engine she has now.
needs some RTX Zen NSFW zrt
>>101298519I was saying that when she first got this model, it had flat lighting in the debut and it made it awful
>>101298537I think it did get a good amount of work put in as well. Also I think Zen worked with the artist more than last time since before it was just a fan project at first
I wish she got the hands resized, they are still too big for her.
>Zen's one of those girls that constantly duck-faces
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>>101298738I want to have sex with this Zen
Imagine her fisting you with her big hands
>>101299009Worst ass I've ever seen on a Zentreya model
>>101299017Counter argument it can do this and with the update it seems fatter
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>RTX Zen has thick lips
Imagine her giving you a blowjob
>>101299044RTX Zen should have bigger tits and ass
>>101299044I prefer to spread Zen's cheeks myself.
>BGM with vocals
pass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO14Kt-ZJjM
RTX Zen should have bigger lips like this
>>101299379After staring and comparing. I can safely say it did get bigger
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Kuro wants to try doing NSFW voice content one time on Patreon and/or Fansly to see if he'd be comfortable with it. His friends including Michi have been suggesting it to him.
>>101299408Her tits didn't, for shame.
>>101299500I'm jealous of k9s
I'd pay anything for some lewd Mouse voice content.
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cyber pussy
>>101299500I'm jealous of k9s
I'd pay anything for some lewd Michi content.
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Who’s the most athletic vshojo
>>101299500>His friends including Michi have been suggesting it to him.kuro is the most groomable member of vshojo
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>>101299500"Guys, without other dudes in the company to bounce off of how do I make money and content?"
"Suck some dick dude"
>>101299726>Zen exercises daily (at least before the zenathon)>Mel pole dances and does yoga
>>101299500God I wish Henya did this
OffKai is this weekend. Are any of you going?
>Kuro assumed Indomie doesn't expire because it's dry
>>101300650OffKai felt less fun than other places for meet and greets, I hold off and let the bigger fans get their chance Creators probably more focused on hanging out afterwards and I'd rather they have a good time
>>101300824this, I always imagine offkai being more for creators than fans
I'll enjoy secondhand stories during streams