Now that there are implications about a new Hololive EN gen floating around, is it safe to say that EN Justice was a flop?

My wife Cecilia is so cute

>>101295804 (OP)
Yep, and we may see the new Gen flop even harder. At this pace, EN branch is doomed. Still alive, but not growing in fandom

>>101295804 (OP)
Enjoy your new Gen

I always found it weird to have a mostly European gen except for one American vtuber.

>>101296091
and then do nothing with them being EU

>>101295804 (OP)
>is it safe to say that EN Justice was a flop?

kEk

>>101295804 (OP)
you niggas do this every gen
remove your mental illness

>>101296134
what about-

>>101296091
It was supposed to be a french girl, but she bailed out. It took too much time to debut I guess

>>101296001
Thank you, I hope you have a nice day too <3

>>101296185
Never heard of this. What's this about?

>>101296001
One of them is the missing justice member

>>101296001
>6 members gen
Seems like overkill, 5 was a fine number.

>>101296176
Numbers don't lie.

>>101295804 (OP)
There will never be an explosion of popularity like EN 1 had. Some talents will shine more than others, like for example Fuwamoco, but that kind of success will be non-replicable.

>>101295804 (OP)
It would have helped if they had a better leader
Not only is she a homolover, the way she talks makes me physically cringe, she actively detracts from any collab she's in just by being there

>>101295804 (OP)
6/10. Meh gen. Nothing would change if they were all terminated but they didn't poison the branch.

I'll be brutally honest. I really don't care if this offends the fanbases:
>Raora
Clinically retarded, like really fucking airheaded. It can be funny and she's easy to bully with her ESL but there's something about her that doesn't make her stand out which is surprising as she's very Italian and has a sex model. Lives in Japan and doesn't exploit it unlike Biboo. Literally why fucking live in Tokyo and apply for Hololive if you're not going to learn the language or spend more time with the JPs that all like you? She alo feels quite fake and has been caught lying about things unnecessarily which is weird. Things where there was no reason to lie about it but she does anyway. Her past is hideous but it's clear she wants to move on from that and win people over which I can respect. Doubt she'll 180 for unlike Shiori, there have been no hints of giving a shit about the homos. She really wants everyone to like her but that makes her a bit bland. What I like about Raora is she works very hard and actually leans into art quite hard. Super talented artist. Good sense of humor and a sexy voice although that's subjective. Overall I'd say 6.5/10 and can occasionally be 8/10 when she has her moments. Fine hire.
>ERB
Literally can't be bothered to write about her in length for she doesn't deserve it. Fantastic singer and VA and I genuinely respect she was honest about being a whore from day 1, that's it really. For everyone's sake she should just graduate at this point. Waste of a slot and wasted hag potential. 3/10.
>CC
More wasted potential. Skilled in a lot of things but is too insecure to take any of them seriously unlike ERB and Raora so she just fucks around the whole time. It's frustrating. This is the biggest platform she has and it's wasted. Where are the violin streams? Her model was even rigged for it. Her personality is bratty and abrasive but in a good European way. Basically Kiara's mom but younger. Chemistry with GG is amazing. She's not very fun to watch solo unless it's something where she can just be a retard and not judged like the VR streams. Seems quite smart and a fast learner but again, doesn't really use this for anything meaningful content-wise. Overall I'd say a consistent 7/10. Would be 8.5/10 if she actually stepped up and showed what she's capable of but I don't think she ever will. I also think she'll be the first to graduate but lets not go there.
>GG
Personally I can't stand her although I'll admit she's the funniest. Loud as fuck for no reason and if you're always loud it loses its impact during streams for you can't get any louder. Just constant unbearable noise. Makes her streams painful to watch solo if she's not your oshi. She brings the best out of everyone in collabs and is seemingly beloved by all of EN. The ace shit was grim but expected considering her past. Fun personality and it looks like she's inclining now after a shaky start. 7/10. I can't watch her but I understand why she's popular and think she was a good addition. I'm cautious about the homo shit within the next year.

>>101295831
You mean MY wife Cecilia

>>101295804 (OP)
Yes. I will never stop saying they hired the wrong italian.

>>101296125
I thought it was for more EU-friendly time zone streams?

>>101295804 (OP)
Meh gen

>>101297244
What did Raora lie about?

>>101297244
>Her past is hideous
???
I don't remember her PL being in any drama

>>101297484
Twice Raora said she never played a game before even though she has. Also >>93040005

>>101297763
She wasn’t lying about learning english from scratch, she is only exaggerating a bit. Go check her old twitter: she said the same thing in 2023 (4 years) and 2022 (3 years)

>>101297477
Did the yuro audience even grow with their addition? Or did they have to pander to americans again?

>>101297513
She was whorish and an awful person to stream with if you were not in the same mindset.

>>101297979
What made her whorish?

>>101297937
>Did the yuro audience even grow with their addition?
Hard to say without any metric tools. I'm inclined to say no, but I go by personal feeling.

>>101297937
>>101298057
Kiara inclined after Justice.

>>101297937
Probably, but not by a substantial amount. An EN gen that's only 2/4 euro timezones isn't a strong signal that Cover is genuinely trying to capture a new audience, it actually comes off as Cover struggling to grow their NA viewership further and taking wild shots in the dark to compensate.

>>101296240
He made it up

>>101296001
dont know
good
decent
doesn't fit holo, pippashojo shit
don't know
good

>>101298108
beep boop

>>101297244
CC has done some things, give her a bit of credit. She had wonderful VR streams with us, she played the piano for us, she rigged otomos with us on stream and showed us how that whole rigging business works, she did a music creation stream, she printed out SCs with randomized otomo assets and coded a website where you could look your own up and such.

>>101297244
Stop forcing these narratives into raora lol

CC is on a graduation fast track

>>101297763
>>101297979
Believe the hype

>>101298586
In what way you retard?

>>101298556
and how much of that is recent

>>101298602
burnout mainly, the writing is on the wall

>>101298556
Most of that was early content. It's good shit that only she can provide but she gave up doing different things and just plays the usual slop now. In my head she's just a pleasant Kiara to listen to in the background but she should be more than that.

>>101298631
It's more to do with spinning too many plates. The difference being that she has a chance to recover once the plates are dealt with.

>>101298631
A bunch of Holo seems overworked atm with concert prep presumably.

>>101296001
who

>>101297244
fair assessment. they're solid hires, but don't really expand the hololive reputation much. luckily their EN competitors seem to self-sabotage themselves so impressively, hololive can continue coasting on sheer momentum for awhile longer.

>>101295831
>>101297423
Your wife is my sexdoll.

>>101297244
>writes an essay just to come out as a faggot

>>101298631
do you even know what that word means

>>101296001
If we actually get that fighting game chuuba I'm stoked

>>101297979
>Her past is hideous
>She was whorish
>an awful person to stream with if you were not in the same mindset

None of these things are remotely true.
t. guy that watched her as an indie

>>101297438
Yeah should have hired Tennyo Yui

>>101297037
>SHE TALKS TO PENIS HAVERS REEEEEE
Retard

GG is one of the best hires Hololive has ever made

>>101295804 (OP)
no Justice is GREAT

>>101297244
What past is hideous with raora?
RavJp captcha

>>101304843
Either you are her larping here, or just thinking with your dick

>>101295804 (OP)
Look at literally every new gen for both EN and JP. They all "flop" nowadays, which implies it has actually become the norm to get low numbers and therefore is not a flop.

>>101307292
Nta but I’ll concede only on the whorish part. The rest is made up, she was always very kind

>>101305025
No that would've been the same result as Raora

I like how /here/ the norm is "If she is not the exact copy of this other talent I like for personal reasons, then she's shit, and if it's a copy then it's a downgrade copy slop" haha, never change anons, I sincerely like feeling less retarded after reading all of you.

>>101295804 (OP)
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>>101298299
>doesn't fit holo
she does braindead baby talk exactly like biboo and fwmc

>>101296001
Nina EN6