82 - Tovarisch Edition
>What is /asp/?/asp/ is a thread for Vtubers to give and receive advice related to Vtubing.
>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base for making videos.
>Is there an audience for X?Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?
>What video editor should I use for editing clips?DaVinci Resolve, Kdenlive, & CapCut if you don't feel like spending money or pirating; otherwise, use Vegas Pro or Premiere.
>I have a question, is it okay to ask? Will I get real feedback?Ask away! If no one responds, try asking again at a later time.
>I see the rentry! How do I join?Just DM boop147 on discord to join! Is an opt-in and you can always request to be removed later on!
Open company auditions:
Brave: https://bravegroup.co.jp/audition_en/
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en
Niji (Open indefinitely): https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1780415989332816307
Also, hololist with other minor agencies opening auditions: https://hololist.net/news/tag/audition/
Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Common Trolling techniques in /here/: https://pastebin.com/24DaTTvm
/ASP/list: https://rentry.co/asplivelist
Tierlist: https://tiermaker.com/create/-asp-iring-vtubers-18301794
Recurrent Vtuber Questions: https://pastebin.com/UXYkrALE
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>>101324572 (OP)I am forgotten...
>>101324636People forget those who don’t make themselves known.
Be kind to yourself today too!
https://vocaroo.com/1jfm3qUMF0j9
>>101325603You should do birdwatching asmr,
Starting Luna Nights soon.
This is supposed to be the Rolls Royce of Touhouvanias and dethroned the other Touhouvania that stars Sakuya, had Aoi Yuuki voicing Chillno (Koumajou Remilia: Scarlet Symphony), so I have high expectations.
https://www.twitch.tv/LavandeeDeProvence
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edgey how do I contact you to force you to play mahjong?
i'm going to double my reps and make an effort to get into niji en. no drama there can be worse than what i've endured here and the bar is currently low
>>101327328Twitter if probably the easiest way. https://x.com/theedgey_?s=21&t=WPG0ExVRvSbnXz1N8AfkdA
>>101320206It’s shaping up to be this Saturday if that’s okay with you.
>>101321097Ngl, I wish my fridays could be more free to join you guys. I think last session I got free at the exact moment you guys ended. lol. You’re still welcome for this one if you’d want. No pressure.
>>101329558>Ngl, I wish my fridays could be more free to join you guys. I think last session I got free at the exact moment you guys ended. lol.It's all about properly organizing it :3c
>You’re still welcome for this one if you’d want. No pressure.I'm garbage at mahjong... But yeh, I'm in
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>>101330303I think it was more leaning to repo this time than mahjong. If that okay with you just msg me.
>>101328025hint, or msg edgey and i'll get your name from him
>>101329682i'll shoot you a message today and we can figure out a day
>>101324572 (OP)I have realized that to grow and be successful you have to ignore the broader community. You must not collab, and you must not join /asp/ groups and discords. These are all quagmires filled with drama and distractions. If you join then you're more likely to get stuck with the same handful of viewers watching each other. The only real truth is to go at it alone from scratch, if you don't get viewers then you're doing it wrong, and it will force you to confront this and fix it. Everything else about supporting each other is just cope.
>>101333492someone I still care about
>>101333724No, you are justifying your lack of interest on networking as a pseudo-clever explanation as to how you will find out where to improve, when in reality solitude does not mean self-reflection of any kind; even less if you are having a good time by yourself and abandoning more and more entertainer aspect of vtubing.
Everything properly balanced, social outcasts and leeches are both wrong because they can't learn to find the sweet middle spot.
>>101333724Networking and supporting each other helps give you a wider audience. The issue with asp and the network is that a lot of aspies lack their own viewers, so raiding between each other does little to no good. If you do not branch out to other networks you will stagnate like everyone else in asp. This pool of 200 or so viewers and aspies all know each other by now, you need to build your own audience on top of the boost or find another group with a new audience.
ANSWER ME /ASP/IES! THE SCHOOL OF THE UNDEFEATED OF THE EAST!
>>101333927>>101334142>networkingThis gets thrown around a lot, but it's simply a red herring. It does not really get you to improve, there is nothing about networking with others dragging you down that makes you improve. All it does is make you set lower standards, ah I am doing well I get 13 viewers compared to someone with 5 viewers. No! This is a bad way of thinking, and it will lead you to become lazy. Your content should be good enough for people to find value in it, networking and associated tricks will only take you so far.
Of course you will defend it and even try to intellectualize it, because you are the proverbial crabs in the bucket. In reality we are talking about expending time and energy focusing on other people, people without any real skills, without any talent, without any real aspirations, who will not put in the same amount of work in it as you will. That can only ever drag you down.
That's even before all of the drama, who slept with who, who stole from who, who faked a suicide and who is in the in-club gloating over those that didn't know. It's insufferable and useless. If you go down that route you will never really be a vtuber in your own right, you will just be someone playing pretend.
>>101334142Uwo came here and stole hundreds of viewers from the thread.
>>101334142>200 or so viewers>/asp/ies average 10 viewers>male /asp/ies average 5 viewersViewers doko?
>>101334639there's no way you believe that's how anything works
>>101334639He personally leeched thousands of viewers from me!
Finally getting my design sorted after the artist just kind of forgot months a go and I had to badger them repeatedly to do it. They've just pumped something out in the last few hours and it's kind of different to what I wanted.
Think I'm just gonna say fuck it, take the design and go to someone else and use it as a basis to hopefully get what I was after. I set goals to be sorted by September, then Christmas and it's just been forced back/ I don't wanna sound like a moany bitch but I know I do, but it's really killed my motivation. This ain't even the avatar but just the concept for the characters design. Just gotta grit my teeth and keep pushing forward. New goal, get it sorted by the end of the year. Can't complain too much I suppose a lot of people have gone through the exact same thing but with way more money sunk than me.
which aspie you raping at offkai
>>101335374please learn how jokes work and what makes jokes funny
>>101335200Are you currently streaming, or are you in limbo while you sort this out?
>>101329558just don't let them talk you into taking a massive fucking debt for your debut.
>>101334745viewers and aspies. there's like 20 viewers from here
>>101335200you should start streaming using a premade customizable model like the suiika model (which you can pirate for free), waiting for your real model is going to take too long and it might be delayed too. Dont waste your time waiting, start streaming now.
reminder to give up if you're male. get a job
i am aspiring my vtuber rn
I'm forming the line early in front of Fwofie's hotel room. Some people seem to be looking around, maybe they don't know her hotel room number but I do. Hopefully they don't catch on and start lining up. I want to be the first but I think I already see someone there. He's a lot smaller than me so even if I'm second I'll make her forget the first guy.
>>101335720Limbo. Feel like I shot myself in the foot leaving it this long, but it is what it is.
>>101335840Ah well I could, though I was looking to do png shit rather than 3d. (Easier to manage and you can have a neat looking avatar without worrying about 3d models) I'll figure something out, don't worry. They got the head right, so worst case I could just be a blank staring static head lmao. Though I don't think that'd get me very far...
>>101335913Not even the women are at career level of vtubing. The very few /asp/ies that are is a mixture of both men and women.
>>101334584Why did you reply to me if you were going to ignore everything I said? It's still an unbalanced view to just network for the sake of networking, and you would have not tried to reply to me if you attempted to see what I said.
Also drama and networking are separate identities, if you can't network without drama that's an absolute skill issue.
>inb4 but I found myself involved in something out of nowhereIf you actually did nothing, you can always clarify that you had nothing to deal with X and move on; if you are feigning ignorance that's your problem buddy.
>>101336030get a PNG and start streaming, when you got an audience and network with other vtubers you can hype up your L2D debut and have your debut then, lots of other vtubers do it and have lots of people show up because you've been around streaming for a while. If you wait then you will have less opportunities to meet people streaming now.
>>101336082That could work. Could make a real dog shit ms paint interpretation of what I was going for with the character and then eventually turn it over to the proper one when it's sorted. Not a bad idea anon, thankyou
>>101336111Reiterating what the other anon said - it's far more important to get practice streaming with a shitty png or the like than it is to get your shitty streams out in six months once you have a workable model.
>>101336064Because nothing you brought up was particularly relevant and doesn't redeem your dogmatic parroting of bad advice.Nothing you've posted is new or refutes any of my points or counters any of my alternative solutions. You brush off my points? I brush off yours, and I have more justification.
The problem is not networking in and of itself, but who you're networking with. It might be good to network with a song writer or a music producer, it might be good to network with actual good artists, animators, modelers, and riggers. It might also be good to network with corpo staff.
The problem is that now you're equating that kind of networking with networking with people that can't get out of bed, can't set a schedule, live with their parents, get extra spending money by pity scamming simps, and never put in effort. If you network with those people you will become like those people.
The simple truth that you don't want to face is that not everybody here is really an aspiring vtuber. At most some of them only aspire to go live and not be completely lonely playing video games. It has become a support group for lonely autists more than a productive mutual help group for those that want to make it.
For anything you say defending networking on /asp/ to make a shred of sense you need to completely reset the thread or make a spinoff, splitting off from the frenemy cope groups..
I wanna be lured by a female aspie into playing mario kart world with her at her house but she rapes me instead
>>101336396this is not the way brother, please learn self-worth
the thread fixation on networking is funny because its like trying to sell a blank piece of paper. who are you? what are you even offering the person you're trying to add to your network? what are you even asking them to promote other than your name?
aspies need to spend time thinking about what it means to have a brand and what their identity is. "Hello I'm a vtuber" yeah you and everyone else buddy. I don't even mean this in a transactional way. If you approach somebody else with an idea that they can help you promote yourself to view and other viewers, what are you actually asking them to tell others about you? What ARE you? If you're just some nobody internet streamer who plays videogames sometimes what is there even to promote? You have to define yourself before you can promote yourself and ask others to do it.
>>101336167>networking on /asp/That's where you are wrong. Although, I didn't clarify about networking in the broadest sense of the word, so my bad.
>>101336567When people say network on asp it means get to know the people here. If you just post your link, no one's gonna wanna interact with you. Show interest in others and they'll show interest in you too. Maybe you'll get a collab, a raid, a follow. That's what we mean when we say network specifically to people who post here. Several new aspies have no bothered to introduce themselves in chats to anyone and expects us to do something with their links when they post them.
>>101324572 (OP)Live now with some Rimworld!
https://www.twitch.tv/purrsonvt
>>101336567nobody here is female and to be a vtuber you have to be female. they failed the first step
>>101336637Please join ^^
>>101336567this thread is literally full of new people who all just started, that's why talking to each other is beneficial to help each other out. Rising tide lifts all boats. You dont need anything special or unique, just be a genuine person.
>>101336637>When people say network on aspok, but that has nothing to do with the post you replied to and didn't read
>>101336582And I specifically did say I was talking about /asp/ in my original comment, so your bad.
>>101336671This post says a lot of words that don't mean anything. Starting out is not a reason to not put thought or effort into what you're making and what you're trying to sell to an audience. If your only goal in starting out is to be a formless grey blob and hope you acquire a personality and identity later you'll waste a ton of time, money and mental health wondering why you're streaming to nobody after several months of spinning your wheels. If you're starting out then the time is now to define who it is you want to be and who it is you want the audience to see. You don't have an audience and you're not going to get one by just being one of an infinite number of "genuine person"s out there.
>>101336744People have to start somewhere, it doesnt matter if they have no shape or form. The important thing is to stream regularly and figure things out as your slowly grow and improve. Nobody is an expert in a hobby the day they started.
>>101336567But truthfully most don't spend any time on any of that. They just want to be popular, more, more, more, me, me, me. Sadly, they also set their sights low, so they're not networking for the sake of it to eventually get 10k ccv, they're hoping to get a personal cult of 10-20, some of who will pay them and others they can fuck.
>>101336671>Rising tide lifts all boatsCrabs in a bucket.
>>101336744This is the truth people don't want to admit, and it's nobody's fault but your own if you let it happen. I have seen some tense interactions among people that have 0 to 10 viewers. Far too tense to ever be justified by the amount of viewers we're talking about.
>>101336781Again, you're just making excuses for not doing very basic and obvious things and those excuses only result in stumbling out of the gate in pursuit of a fast start at doing nothing.
>The important thing is to stream regularly and figure things out as your slowly grow and improve.there are, right now, millions of twitch channels that have streamed regularly for years go literally nobody. They don't have a defined purpose and thus nobody cares because they failed the very basic concept of identity.
>Nobody is an expert in a hobby the day they started.children form a concept of self before they're a year old, if you, a vtuber, cannot do that in the time it takes to set up your channel and start streaming then you've failed before you started
>>101336717Wait, so you are saying that you will network outside of here, while also expecting to gain something from posting yourself here?
>>101336637And how is that working out in general?
It isn't.
>>101336850Its not even something complex or difficult. I can reduce every streamer and every youtuber I watch to "The X guy" or "The Y girl". They have some thing that defines what they are and what they represent through their content. That applies equally across vtubers and fleshtubers. You can't complain about not growing and succeeding if you cannot even tell somebody what you're trying to sell them.
>>101336878>there are, right now, millions of twitch channels that have streamed regularly for years go literally nobody. They don't have a defined purpose and thus nobody cares because they failed the very basic concept of identity.What does that have to do with /asp/? Just about every aspie is in the top 0.1% of twitch streamers.
The niche and specialty is being a vtuber, which already made them stand out immensely well.
>>101336903No, I didn't say that. But if for example, there is an opportunity, hypothetically to make a song with a popular artist, then why would I not network with them? At a certain point you can't do literally everything yourself. But how you read my comment and to it to that fallacious extreme I will never understand. Try to tone down the autism.
>>101336968>top 0.1% of twitch streamers.this is a nothing line that people tell themselves to feel like they're very accomplished by having two viewers
>>101336958Then you're saying most /asp/ies are defined as the vague directionless loser. Hopefully it will work out.
>>101336968>The niche and specialty is being a vtuber, which already made them stand out immensely well.stand out just like all of the other millions of vtubers
>>101336744Holy shit you're literally retarded. This is /vt/, this is a board for vtubers. Vtubers are already targeting an audience. The identity and personality is being a vtuber.
>>101337008There are no millions of vtubers. It is a small niche that has a massive target audience, big streamers put vtuber tags despite not being vtubers due to the audience being so massive and hungry for vtubers.
>>101336968I know quite a few /asp/ies with less than 5 viewers average, some that even react like they got a huge raid if they get raises by 5. You also have an extremely flawed view of things, just because there are far more failures with a few viewers less than you, that doesn't mean you're not also an abject failure. If you're not 3view on average you're not even a small streamer, you're barely anyone. People need to aim higher than that, they need to aim for thousands or tens of thousands of viewers. Now you might think what I'm saying is too unrealistic, and that's just the problem with /asp/ies.
>>101336974I don't know buddy:
>You must not collab, and you must not join /asp/ groups and discords. >The only real truth is to go at it alone from scratch, if you don't get viewers then you're doing it wrong, and it will force you to confront this and fix it.It still gets applied to what I said, unless somehow your definition alone isn't being alone at all. Also you assume the very obvious "there is NO ONE worth talking to here", no way you are being serious.
>I can use that time talking to these 2views doing something elseGood for you? It still doesn't mean that there are people worth talking to, even more when the whole idea of niches gets brought up.
>>101337001I guess. Its very strange seeing the replies to my post with people very angrily screaming that they don't actually need to define themselves and their content because they think that just being a vtuber in 2025 is enough to form their whole identity and stand out in a crowd of nearly infinite other vtubers. Its like the Buzz Lightyear on a shelf meme. You're not a unique and special case because you're a vtuber 5 years after the gold rush. You're in a saturated market and you're telling me your only defining feature is that you're in the market too? There's literally no reason I should choose you over any one of those other vtubers? This is marketing 101.
>>1013371075 viewers is huge, 5 people in a room that is watching you is a group of people. That's a crazy achievement that anyone should be proud of.
There are no failures in streaming, there are people that need time to grow and improve themselves. You are downplaying how immensely talented and impressive aspies are.
>>101337107>and that's just the problem with /asp/iesaspies stopped having aspirations a long time ago
>>101337163You probably won't even realize it but this post you wrote is the worst kind of crab posting. You're literally telling aspies to settle for being mediocre. You're telling them that their tiny accomplishments are actually the best they can hope for and to take their participation trophy and celebrate it. Genuinely disgusting.
stop arguing with him, he's fixated on YOU HAVE TO IMPROVE YOURSELF TO GAIN VIEWERS
>>101337163>5 viewers is hugeAnd you reveal yourself just like that.
>>101337168And how is that working out?
>>101337140vtubing isnt saturated, it's a completely new paradigm and we're just in time for the start of vtubing. There are no infinite vtubers, there's only a handful and it doesnt take much to stand out.
>>101337204>only a handfullmao
>>101337198Not just mediocre, settling for never making it. YOU CANT HAVE ASPIRATIONS! SETTLE FOR 5 VIEWERS!
>>101337198I'm not telling aspies to be mediocre, I'm just stating the fact that no matter how many viewers you get, it's impressive and it's hard. Do you know how crazy hard and insanely talented so many aspies are? They should be celebrating their achievements and growth. They are amazing people and they should keep fighting and growing.
>>101337199You do though, unironically the only good take recently. The other circle jerking doesn't work.
>>101336567>the thread fixation on networking is funny because its like trying to sell a blank piece of paper. who are you? what are you even offering the person you're trying to add to your network? what are you even asking them to promote other than your name?I think you misunderstand what networking even means
Networking is just socializing with people that are useful to know, you're not trying to establish a business partnership right off the bat
>>101337248Do you not realize how condescending that sounds? Like you think people come here as a support group for being failures at everything.
>>101337248So you're just injecting a nonsequitor into a conversation to cheerlead what exactly? Great, there are talented people here who intentionally or unintentionally refuse to define their brand, their identity and their content and market that brand to viewers to be discovered and appreciated. That's the point.
>>101337279Projection. You're the one using those words.
>>101337262How are they useful though?
>>101337288their brand: vtuber
their identity: vtuber
their content: vtuber
marketing: vtuber
It's all being done by everyone here.
*mic buzzing* y-y-y-you, you have, you have to *loud vine boom* MAKE CONTET THAT OTHER PEOPLE WANNA WATCH TO GET VIEWERS *standing ovation*
>>101337261You don't have to samefag yourself this hard. You can also reword your advice differently. It comes off in a way where people will argue with you because you downplay what everyone else is currently doing. Learn how to managerlarp properly and you won't have to reply to yourself so much next time. I agree with you in some way but you sound like a douchebag.
>>101337107>People need to aim higher than that, they need to aim for thousands or tens of thousands of viewers.You have to be a 1view before you become a 2view, 2view before 3view, and so on. But you clearly don't have any experience with building an audience so whatever.
>>101337292How is that projection? You're the one being the maestro crab of the bucket. 5 viewers, all of which are just thread circlejerk reach arounds, is shit and not worth all the effort.
>101337313
>everyone here.
Oh nevermind, it's managerlarper still having watched none of the people here
>>101337307For streaming specifically, they've got a larger audience and more experience than you.
>>101337333You're delusional. Why are you so against people actually talking about improving?
>>101337363like I said stop arguing with him
>>101337395You were right... Can I give you a kiss for pay for this service? Uwu
>>101337342Not necessarily, you can start stream and there are already thousands of people waiting, so then you're not 1view before 2view and so on. Even what you're trying to imply doesn't work, almost all of them never get out of 1view or low 2view.
Thread will soon devolve into
>networking is useless
>don't collab with anyone and improve yourself
>in fact only females are successful
>male vtubers kys
>i know what's best whores shouldn't talk to men
>>101337386No they don't. They do not have a large audience. They do not have the kind of experience you can learn from. They are only cautionary tales.
>>101337453To be fair the networking and other stuff going on here is all cargo cult stuff. It's not really useful. Like having a press conference where only one or two aspies turn up, and no press.
>you shouldnt do anything unless you're getting thousands of people at the start
Wow literally retarded "advice" here.
>>101337510yes yes we know and we also need to improve ourselves yes thank you
>>101337395>>101337436It's different people you delusional samefagging retard. I'm sorry serious talk really hurts your feelings to your very core.
>>101337549Why are you replying to me?
>managerlarping
>its actually just discussing very basic things about vtubing and not the latest timeloop of garbage relationship gossip
naruhodo
>>101337510if your idea ais networking just to get other aspies to watch you then you are fucking retarded, when we say networking we means being known, you will get literally no one watching you if no one knows you exists, no one goes to twitch and decides "oh today I will watch 0 views"
you network so other people know you and that opens the door to being known to their viewers which in turn open the doors to getting known by people outside this circle
>>101337612it's the same schizo changing his tactic for today by shitting on people here by giving purposely bad advice and then going back to relationship gossip once he gets bored with this strategy for today.
>>101337547Who are you quoting?
>>101337547>>101337612Some vtubers aim for budokan, you aim for 2 simps sending you bits. Can't we all just get along?
>>101337641Having a clear brand as a vtuber is bad advice? Interesting tell me more.
>>101337628Why are you replying to me?
I could be more successful than anyone here and never rely on any of you. It's just a fact.
>>101337700So you're choosing to be a failure so you can slum in the thread. How noble.
>>101337652It's obvious that you never tried learning a skill or getting into a hobby before. Instead of baby steps trying to figure things out you want them to be usain bolt before they start their first steps. People need to figure out if streaming is a hobby they need to get into and then slowly build things up and learn as they grow. All the big vtubers today did not start out as big vtubers from the get go, they started from nothing and slowly grew by every single viewer they fought for.
>>101337641>actual on-topic posts for a change>aaaaaaaiiiihhhh schizo fucking aaiii schizo schizo schizo on multiple devices schio everywhere one guy schizoTake your meds lil bro.
>>101337313https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/vtuber
Yes the vast and unexplored niche of "vtuber"
>>101337721No, you see, success is not contingent on your approval, it never has been. What you're doing isn't working, so you're projecting your failures on everyone trying something different.
>>101337724Anon, defining yourself beyond "Am vtuber on Internet!" is the baby steps. You're telling somebody to sell sculptures by hitting random rocks in random directions with random objects and just hope and pray that one of those rocks is pretty and somebody gives you a couple shiny coins for it out of pity.
>>101334259THE EAST IS BURNING RED!
I highly recommend you pick up the RG one day, it's a fantastic kit.
>>101337464>>101337510Networking does not mean networking only with aspies you spergs
>>101337724You just say unbelievable generic nonsense. That's not a response, anon. Many people consider me extremely skilled, I don't know what you're projecting about with this.
>>101337761You wrote fanfiction about somebody you don't know anything about. That's crazy.
>>101337814>NO UDid you even read your own post? You're the fanfic writer here. I've got nothing to do with you.
>>101337724Where did you invent this strawman you think you're arguing against? Quote the post that says you have to start as a big channel to stream. When you realize you can't find it because it doesn't exist, stop posting.
Denpa show the hole if you are gonna be such an annoying whore today
saying you're a vtuber is about as content defining as saying you're a youtuber. It means nothing except you also use a virtual avatar that may or may not be a character played on an Internet puppet show.
Can you spergs actually settle down for a second?
You don't own the thread and if people want to discuss methods of improving then why not let them?
I have not seen any argument why they shouldn't except REEEEEEEEEEE NOBODY IGNORES MY ADVICE REPOSTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
If your way actually worked nobody would want any other method, everybody would be 4views.
You CANT talk about aspiring as a vtuber, you MUST talk about which low 2view is most groomable.
>>101337895>guys settle down>proceeds to sperg out incoherentlywant to try that one over from zero little guy?
>>101337932You'd better not let me catch you aspiring either. You're going to take your pity views and your top 1% of Twitch participation trophy and like it.
i said not to argue with him because he's a motherfucker that needs the last word and im not scrolling through this useless arguing where both sides are technically correct in their own way again but neither person wants to give up until thread hits 300
not reading all that text, what was the advice? did he even give an advice other than "do not network"
>>101337997we saw your last posts too thread nanny If you're this upset about discussing the thread's actual topic you can fuck off for when the spergs get off of their work shifts to discuss which thread alog target they want to pretend to be mad about today.
>>101338023improve yourself (generic)
find a niche (generic)
cater to thousands
>>101338055nothing that isnt already known and practiced by everyone?
>>101338023Nobody said "do not network". That was literally never a post. one post said "define your channel as a brand so you have something to show people before you worry about networking" and then thread schizos went off screeching about how everyone in the thread is precious uwu beans that need to figure out everything over the course of years by accidental trial and error or something
>>101338042you're not discussing it. you're arguing semantics about who's more right than the other about advice but in reality both sides are making valid points and the manager larper won't change his mind no matter how many times you call him names.
>>101338099You're the kind of idiot who thinks they know which person in the thread wrote which post aren't you? You're probably even imagining names attached to those posts. There are many people in this conversation. Calling somebody a "managerlarper" for discussing vtubing in the aspiring vtuber thread is fucking embarrassing. There's not a single post in this thread that is doing whatever the hell you think managerlarp actually is.
>>101338099define manager larper without sounding like a schzio
>>101337997You're the managerlarper here. Your advice doesn't work, it isn't making anyone successful. Next cope is they just didn't follow your advice right?
Blind leading the blind is not a good strategy. You actual advice schizo.
>>101338186a person with no experience trying to dictate the directions you should take based on his own idea of what he perceives as good advice
imagine being angry at the third party watching two monkeys argue.
>>101338230Now show me the post doing that thing
It's only one guy, yep, only one poster in all of /asp/ actually wants to surpass this place and the 5 viewer cap. One one poster, never stop aspiring.
>>101338267You're saying everyone has to have thousands of viewers when they start out??????
>>101338267every aspie is trying to grow, why are you so mad no one is taking your shit generic advice seriously?
Howie just pet the fucking dog already
>>101337997>>101338099>>101338230You're too fixated on everyone needing to be appreciative towards YOUR digmatic advice and ONLY YOUR advice and going full tilt schizo in the process.
>>101338327What advice dude? Most people have only really posted what they decided they're going to do. You're the one throwing a tantrum about them deviating from your cookie cutter generic slop advice. Schizo.
>>101338327>nobodysis you're throwing a tantrum on your own, I haven't seen a single reply that actually says what is supposedly wrong with the advice other than platitudes about how allegedly talented and wonderful and great everyone is and how they should be happy about being wonderful and great and talented. Its a nonsequitor. You've literally not said what is "shit generic" about saying "please do the basics before you worry about why you can't network with others"
Just because your name is out there doesn't mean anyone is going to watch you. The schizos have Zeph as a target and he is a literal 1view.
>>101338341im not even him lmao
>>101338381you are attributing someone's post to me
show where aspies are not trying to grow? go ahead
If every aspie were trying to grow they wouldn't make posts about how they're in the top 1% of twitch for having a viewer.
>>101338341>>101338423this is what happens when schizos and detective larpers fixate on thinking there are two people talking in a thread of anonymous posters
You know this is only going to stop when his mom forces him to take his anti-psychotics, until then he will keep screaming that the managers are trying to ruin his 5 viewer success.
>>101338404there was no actual advice though?
that's like claiming that "to grow your stream you have to install obs and hit the stream button"
everyone is already trying to grow
improving your streams? everyone is doing that, no one is going out of their way to make their streams worse than the last one
trying to get thousands of viewers? everyone wants that, you cannot force that you just have to grow at your own pace
"define your channel brand" okay explain how, all you complained was that everyone's brand is just "vtuber" which is wrong and it shows you don't watch anyone here so instead of giving actual advice you just said some buzzwords and thought it was good advice
>>101338425That's the point though, most of them are not growing, and most that are aren't growing at a pace that will actually result in a career or even a realistic side-gig.
>>101338538You know, if you just shut the fuck up, maybe the discussion could actually progress to a point that people can actually have logical opinions about it. You're just screaming and crying at the mere prospect of changing the thread rhythm.
>>101338582And you expect that telling them "you should cater to thousands" will do anything for growth? do you even stream?
>>101338582Oh what's the speed someone should be growing in order to fit your criteria? if they're growing slower does that make them less successful?
>>101338618why do you want to discuss it if you already have the answers? just tell us and we will grow
unless you dont know in which case why would you give advice about something you don't know and don't have the answers?
>>101338538Because you're an idiot, things that challenge your preconceptions make you very insecure which is causing you to throw a tantrum. It's a very well known problem, but how are we supposed to continue further?
You either need to ignore posts that make you uncomfortable, remove yourself from this thread, or everybody else that wanted to discuss this has to leave so you're happy again.
>>101338538>there was no actual advice though?there was you just can't seem to understand it
>that's like claiming that "to grow your stream you have to install obs and hit the stream button"basic principals are called basic for a reason
>everyone is already trying to growno, I would believe that most have some want or wish to grow, but there's no chance that everyone is even taking basic steps or efforts to actually grow by more than accident
>improving your streams? everyone is doing that, no one is going out of their way to make their streams worse than the last onethe number of channels on the rentry and tier list that are the same or worse than they started is much greater than the number that have shown any significant improvement. Most are doing the exact same thing they were doing when they started in the exact same way as they started.
>trying to get thousands of viewers? everyone wants that, you cannot force that you just have to grow at your own paceWhat is this autistic strawman you have? Please learn what aspiration is and why settling is its opposite.
>"define your channel brand" okay explain how, all you complained was that everyone's brand is just "vtuber" which is wrongSo now you're admitting that there is actual advice that was being discussed so you had a huge tantrum for no reason. We're making progress. Defining a brand is more than saying "I'm a vtuber who plays game" that's not a brand. That's a template. Coke and Pepsi are brands. They're drinks with specific appeals that are clearly defined and targeted to an audience of consumers. That brand is bolstered by advertising but it isn't defined by the advertising. Your brand as a vtuber is the central kernal of your identity. Uwo is an easy example of good branding not because his model is amazing or because he even presents himself as a vtuber. Its because he's "the wacky science guy who does dangerous projects". That's a sick brand that gets eyeballs because its something that defines him and people want to know more about. Nobody cares about "Guy on twitch who mumbles and plays a videogame sometimes" There's a huge gulf between these things.
>>101338691NTA but what the fuck is this schizo reply? Why are you so threatened by aspies discussing vtubing?
>>101338691Wow, you really are afraid people have different opinions.
>>101338811I'm starting to get the impression they're just uncomfortable because its making them look at their own progress and their own content and realize that they are making excuses for stagnation. That has to be a really shitty feeling. I know I felt it at one point as well, but I used it to motivate myself to work harder and make changes to what I was doing. Change is scary and work is hard. Its also scary to think that you've been too comfortable with settling for being less than you could be.
What you're seeing here is why people disassociate with these communities when they get big enough. It's not so much about thinking they're better, it's because you will get endless schizo arguments from people that don't want different ideas. People that actually understand it or make it get drowned out by blind leading blind, and the only people they can talk to are others that got past this phase.
Having aspies watch me is enough. Honestly I'm only here because I missed out on the high school social experience so I live it vicariously through an anime character. Sitting at the cool lunch table and hearing the juicy gossip is what I'm here for
>>101338990there's a secret sadness to this post
>>101338916Stagnation is what it is, someone needs to make a spinoff thread /stag/ - stagnating vtubers general, for all the people that want to stay where they are.
>>101338815>Defining a brand is more than saying "I'm a vtuber who plays game" that's not a brand.Ok, we can finally agree you don't watch aspies then, the vast, VAST majority of aspies are not generic vtuber playing game, almost all of them have niches, almost all of them have themes, almost all of them interact with their communities in specific ways that tie into their vtuber persona, you lost me the beginning already.
If you want to talk about a community at least try to know the community first, even the worst aspies have a defined brand, very few aspies have nothing to show and I'm not just talking about having good or bad or generic models, almost all of them have a brand they just lack the reach to be known which guess what, every small vtuber also has this problem, every small streamer doesn't have a big reach because growth is a slow process and unless you are getting carried by someone bigger you just have to hope for the best, over 90% of viewers just watch the bigger streamers and will never watch a small streamer, this is even more compounded for vtubers, blaming them for not having a reach and then telling them to not network shows how blind you actually are
>>101338990I feel for you, I really do, but you realize not everybody is here for that, right?
>>101338975when uwo was giving advice people were very keen on hearing him out, do you know why? because we knew he actually grew his channel, taking the advice of a random stranger that probably doesnt even stream is absolutely retarded, thats exactly the same as taking advice from RES which non one does for a reason
>>101338916that may well be so, but the entire point of aspiring to something is to put yourself in that uncomfortable position, and keep changing, keep trying new things, and if it isn't working try something else. That's what aspiring implies, because if you're not willing to put in the work then it's not really an aspiration, then it's just a pipe dream. I could have been an astronaut if only this or that sort of deal.
>>101339168But you can't replicate Uwo's success, his advice is not working for you. Case in point, you.
>>101339168Uwo is a special case. It's true he grew his channel and has some good advice, but his situation and type of content doesn't really apply to most vtubers
is this just another demoralization campaign by the people who gave up, graduated and are still seething to this day? why no one shows their progress if they know how to grow? weird
>>101339081>accuses others of managerlarping>erm ackshully this community that I represent is different and you don't know anything about themI can throw a dart at the board and would bet you 5 bucks that every one of them is "vtuber but he plays boomer shooters" "vtuber but plays card games" "vtuber but animal". That's superficial. None of that makes you stand out or defines you in a way that makes you choose one over the other. Talking to your discord is not a brand. Its a minimum level of community interaction. The way you respond makes me think you really just don't even know what the conversation is about but you really want it to stop because it makes you uncomfy.
>>101339168A lot of big streamers also give very generic and bad advice so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Nobody ever discuss or think about stuff, and you can only speak after you're a success whether or not it has anything to do with your advice?
That's some real circlejerk mentality.
>>101339262Even more sure you don't watch anyone here if that's your take, you still haven't given any good examples of branding either
>>101339290>Even more sure you don't watch anyone here if that's your takegoing to be real with you, I'm not interested in what you're convinced about because your responses so far have just been you demonstrating you simply don't understand the conversation.
>>101339262NIGGER EVEN TOP STREAMERS ON TWITCH DONT HAVE A NICHE THEY JUST PLAY GAMES AND REACT TO NEWS
WHO ARE THESE UNIQUE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE "BRANDS" OUT THERE
>>101339290If I'm wrong you should be able to tell me how the supposed VAST majority are actually doing really well with their branding and defining their channels and content and why I should just shut up because despite knowing all of them I just don't watch streams like you do
>>101339354I don't have a clueless.jpg big enough to respond to this post so I'm just going to laugh.
>>101339254People said they want to discuss strategies to grow. That's not allowed though, it goes against the cookie cutter show biz larping advice.
First they have to become famous 4views, and then their advice can be ignored for being an exception. Nobody else is any wiser, and gets not honest feedback on their strategies.
>>101339280>you can only speak after you're a success whether or not it has anything to do with your advice?yes? because if you go to a engineer with your crayon drawings to tell them how you designed a airplane they are going to laugh at you in the same way we shouldnt take the advice of someone who has no experience in the matter? your advice may be right but who is going to risk months of following if there is no proof it works? thats what all manager larpers dont get, your advice could be the best one in the world but with no way to show it works is just meaningless words, go and follow your own advice and grow, if you succeed good for you
>>101339423That's very interesting. I'm sure you have lots of success you're drawing from in making your posts here that we can look at and decide to base our opinion on those posts by right? Advice is only measured by your personal level of achievement after all so I'm sure you're at least a 3view.
>>101339423But you're not an engineer, none of you are engineers. You are making false equivalencies now. There is a clear difference between your intelligence and other people in this thread, and you need to try harder or pipe down and let the smarter people do the talking. I don't say this because I'm owning you, I say this because you should have understood this undermines your point before you even posted.
>>101339472again, im not the one giving advice telling others they are wrong, its up to you to prove your advice works
hit the button, stream and in a few months you can tell us how much you have grown
>>101339423I have personally witnessed, talked with and helped 1 view vtubers into 4 views and I can safely say that there is only one special unique formula for success for all vtubers. That is consistency and hard work. Nothing else matters.
>>101339501I'll change it up for you, its the same as you going to you papa with a drawing of a car and telling them that your imaginary car is better than their pick up truck and expecting your dad to take you seriously
>>101339509I don't have to prove anything to somebody who contributes nothing, nonny
>>101339509People aren't giving advice, they're trying to discuss amongst themselves, and YOU are telling them to stop and to only follow your canned advice.
>>101339549That's another false equivalency, again, you're only discrediting your own ability to talk reasonably. Why? Because content creation among adults is not anything like comparing a child with a crayon drawing to their dad that can drive a car.
>>101339509>hey guys you should do X, Y and Z. >STOP MANAGERLARPING AND TELLING PEOPLE WHAT DO DO>yeah so anyway you should do the things I mentioned because they're important for doing this other thing you were discussing, which is also important but much harder to do without doing the other basic things first>STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTANDDo you see that this is your contribution to the conversation? Sit this one out little bro.
see how everyone recoils the moment you ask to see proof of the advice working? yeah, the same manager larpers are at it again, this time instead of pushing bfe is just pushing nothing because they haven't given any advice real yet
>Because content creation among adults is not anything like comparing a child with a crayon drawing to their dad that can drive a car.
again, you just have to prove you are actually doing content creation and you are not just a viewer with no idea of what you are talking about, I think I made that very clear a few posts before you replied
>>101339667>still throwing a tantrum because he can't follow a conversation
say something nice about shaniachan
I think zoomers are just so fixated on numbers. You hear about it, they all wanted to grow up to be influences and stuff. They didn't want to be dancers, singers, comedians, story tellers, or anything else that you can do and become successful at as a content creator. They want the status, not the work. You can't just fixate on who is big, but if you're small and you're not doing better, and you're unwilling to fix it then that's an obvious problem everybody can understand.
What is so bad about talking about how to be a better singer, a better dancer, a better comedian, a better artist, a better gamer? That should be the bread and butter for good and memorable vtubers.
I know Japanese vtubers talk about it, but sadly it seems that's too touchy a subject for western aspiring vtubers.
>>101339667>you just have to prove you are actually doing content creationProve it to who? You? You're a clueless threadshitter with zero useful contribution to the conversation. I need to show you my channel, my community and my metrics so you can move to some other goalpost about why we should stop talking as aspiring vtubers in the aspiring vtuber thread? I need to show you ID so you can schizo me by name instead of throwing your unhinged tantrums here anonymously? How about you show your channel and your name with proof so I can decide if its even worth my time convincing you the sky is blue and the oceans are green.
>>101339081>we can finally agree you don't watch aspies then, the vast, VAST majority of aspies are not generic vtuber playing game, almost all of them have nichesName 10
>>101339667You don't have any proof either though, you're just the least intelligent one here. Yeah, doing something completely different to everybody else could work. That's how trends are started.
You're looking for only safe options that aren't working out too well.
I mean at least we're talking about vtubing.
sorry anon, only established 3 and 4 view vtubers are allowed to discuss aspiring as a vtuber in the aspiring vtubers thread
>>101339852Technically it's meta though. We're talking about whether or not anyone should be allowed to talk about aspiring to be a vtuber. Some think you should try thing and shoot your shot, others think you can only talk about it if you are already a successful vtuber. Otherwise you can only repeat generic advice already big streamers have said.
At least I didn’t get arbitrarily namedropped again.
>>101339925>>101339943Its an obnoxious derail of what could be been a much more interesting conversation but I agree its still somehow better than namedrops and lunch table gossip
>>101339973It's a shame that these thread schizos always derail any divergent opinions and actually think they're the schizos. If they would just calm down and learn to ignore things they disagree with, then there could be room for multiple different discussions at once. Instead they have to suck up all the air.
What would you like to see besides vtubers pressing the 'Go Live' button and playing video games? What material would be worth the time and effort to put out and attract potential viewers starting from zero? Zatsudans? Skits? SAMMI witchery?
>>101340046Its worse too because it just ends up harming vtubers who would want to identify and participate in the conversation because one really fixated and hostile sperg really really needs to tell everyone to stop the first on topic discussion this thread has had in months for reasons that make sense only to him. I don't blame them for not wanting their name anywhere near that but it feels like a lost opportunity for useful discussion.
>>101340148That's the thing. You can be "generic mc videogames" and still have a functional brand to it. Your brand is defined by how people view you and your channel from outside. Each of the Hololive girls has a distinct brand. Some are more vague and less distinct than others. What matters is presentation and audience targeting. We get that one obsessed BFE post that comes around here now and then and the one thing I'll agree with them on is that women are a specific market that men can target as vtubers. I don't agree its the only market or even necessarily the most successful, but branding your channel as a male streamer to being female oriented (BFE, father figure, gay bestie, whatever) is a strategy with some benefits if that mode of presentation suits you and your other content decisions (model, stream layout, voice, manner of speaking, life experiences which inform your topics of conversation, etc).
>>101340321Branding does not just apply to themes or outward appearances or your content but it also applies to your personality, to how you talk, to what you're like, to how you are as a human being with your own life experiences.
There's a reason why some people are naturally attuned to being successful streamers without having to do anything special, it's because their branding as a human being is appealing to others. In the end the most important thing is to expose yourself to as many people as possible through any means you can, this will increase the draw of your branding and thus ensure your success in the long run. Everything adds up step by step, slowly but surely.
>>101340830Its a bit semantics but your personality is not your branding. It is a feature that gets rolled into your presentation. Brand is perception by definition. I'm not going to see your personality, way of speaking or "how you are as a human being" by scrolling past your channel or reading your description in an About section. Those things you listed can impact your brand, but they're not your brand.
My brand is guy who plays old video games, but a couple years ago Kongou made fun of that during an April Fool’s stream of his and brutally demoralized me for a while. Now I’m over it and have decided that guy is just a fucking douche lol
Y’all niggas writing novels without having ever picked up a book
>>101341116Some muthafuckas are always tryna ice skate up hill……
>how to kill a thread, episode #1533
I think these situations are why the anchor poster stopped... But I'm gonna be continuing Demon's Quest, an Ocarina of Time difficulty romhack
https://www.twitch.tv/zephhaathun
>>101342286The anchor poster is a manager larping schizo crab operating in bad faith, just post your links whenever you want to
>>101324572 (OP)LINK ANCHOR:
REPLY WITH LINK WHEN YOU OR AN /ASP/IE GOES LIVE. IMAGES ARE OPTIONAL.
https://rentry.co/asplivelist
>>101324572 (OP)REPS ANCHOR:
REPLY WITH HINTS ON WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING FOR, OR WHAT YOU NEED TO ACTUALIZE YOUR CONTENT. IMAGES ARE OPTIONAL.
>>101324572 (OP)POST ANCHOR:
REPLY WITH HINTS ON WHAT YOU'RE POSTING, WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON POSTING, OR WHAT YOU NEED TO ACTUALIZE YOUR POSTS. IMAGES ARE OPTIONAL.
>>101342372>name is a buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword and I'm posting in bad faith
>>101342611>i am the buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword and i'm pretending i'm not defending myself
>>101337793I have the RG ordered through BigBadToyStore right now, but haven't shipped it out yet cause I have a prize fig on preorder through them. I'm waiting for the price fig to release so I can ship both at the same time and save on shipping. Gonna finish up Izumo this Sunday (hopefully, she still has a million runners left over) then either might ship the RG Burning Gundam to have something to build, or wait till Sept to have the Frame Arms Girl Stylet and Exosuit Stylet, Frame Arms Girl Zero Tortoise, and the Kotobukiya Death Stranding Magellan I have on preorder release
set your watches his shift just ended
After reconsidering, Im happy that not that many female vtubers of the aspiring kind are gfe, otherwise I would feel as angry about not being capable of chatting and feeling cared for as it already happens on the ones who did come from here and who have a sizeable aspiring vtubers audience.
All the gfe just for me, yes yes yes hggggg
/asp/ is the limbo of the vtubing world.
>>101342745It doesn't have to be, but limbo demon wills it so.
>>101343829I fucking love streaming high its so kino brother
>>101342679If you're getting a Styko, get one of the newer releases (XF-3 and such). The original is okay but quite dated as it was one of the first releases in the line.
I'm also gonna recommend you check out the Megami Device and 30 Minute Sisters lines, as well as Chitocerium if you want something with a very different vibe. Or just visit the /toy/ thread and see if there's anything you like.
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>>101330521Won’t spam it because I don’t wanna shit up the thread but wanted to mention it one last time. Game not confirmed, but shaping up for Saturday if anyone wants to join
>>101343829I’m working a rebrand but the conversation about it over the last few days on here has made me worried people are gonna think they influenced me.
>>101344561You shouldn’t bother putting any stock into what Anonymous has to say, especially not when he’s posting in /asp/. That guy isn’t very good at posting.
>>101344595I try not too lmao
>>101344595i'm Anonymous and i think my posts are great
>>101344052The Stylet and Exosuit Stylet combo kit is the XF-3 so I should be good there. Hopefully it turns out well like the Gourai-Kai and Gourai Exosuit combo kit. I got a few Megami Device and Hexa Gear kits on my Throne, but if you have any other suggestions you can just send them there and I'll add them for the future
https://throne.com/finbarhaugheyvt
>>101342286I didn't stop. I said I'd be making myself more sparse anyway. I'm more active on the weekends. Though that gives me an idea.
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich
Haru's going to be spending time with you instead of going to offkai!
>>101345000man this makes me want to put model kits on my throne, not that anyone really looks at it anyway
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>>101345729Just do it. I got the HG Burning Gundam from a kind soul through Throne, and I know a guy who recently got Char's red Zaku II from Throne. Just put it on their and one day you'll get something.
>>101343829some time ago i fucked some old guy for a free meal. its been almost a year and i still think about it.
>>101347314That was just a date
>>101342286Thanks to anyone who stopped in, even if briefly. I appreciate you.
>>101345210Ah, understandable. I just wish that people would be nicer to each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sLTXAWp-5E
i will be waiting for a cover kyuu
Staying up late and playing Roblox with you guys!
https://www.twitch.tv/slushywater52
For the love of god, bake trasph, or else i will start hornyposting here
>>101349722do it faggot, you won't
>>101349722Quit your belly aching I'm working on it.
>>101324572 (OP)How did Elfin make it outside of this thread?
>>101350315because she posted twice then fucked off
>>101350315Right-wing loli "she's just like me bros" conspiracy theorist pandering grift
>>101350315elfin was always /wasp/, but also, pandering to chuds, gooners and easily maipulated simps
>>101350529why hasn't this worked for Pafu?
>>101350561ugly non-loli model
>>101349722I bake like you ask and the people go silent. Last time I do anything for you gooners.
>>101350663Did you post the scat too?
>>101350851Yes. Gooners go die. Discuss vtubing or fuck off.
>>101350851that's just a consequence of posting on /trash/
>>101350851Absolutely not. We can't have nice things is all.
>>101350561Stop bringing her up faggot
>>101349722shut up kyuu and just open up your prostate
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Aspie for this feel
https://www.twitch.tv/rebelearthsky
aspies!!
someone's spamming scat in the trash thread, so I'll just post this here. Fresh Meekers.
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>>101351771That shit over there is better than this art
>>101351771Normally I love these types of pictures because of how inviting they look but this one feels extra persuasive for some strange reason. Great art.
>>101351771God damn. This is dog shit. Why would you ever sign your name to something like this?
>>101351771naked doll woman........
At offkai, can confirm all aspies are fat
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>>101352363Wow I didn’t know that, You’re telling me for the first time.
How did [namedrop] make it?
Why didn't [namedrop] make it?
>>101343829I’m worried he’s dead.
>>101352363At offkai, can confirm all aspies are skinny twigs.
>>101352575I know of an /asp/ie who died and very few know. Name him and I'll tell you if it's him or not.
I think all vagueposters should die. No exceptions.
>>101343829I cut my thigh during streams as a stim
I love you more than anything
>>101343829I feel like a complete failure
>>101330521That's cute art, who did it?
>>101343829I'm bitter and hateful to vagueposters because no one ever talks about me.
Vague posters are valid and that one is super cute
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>>101353227It was made by my model maker! https://x.com/granola_2d?s=21&t=WPG0ExVRvSbnXz1N8AfkdA
This one was also made by them!
>>101352575I've been dead darlin
https://x.com/EmoPukki/status/1935580433384694184
omo come on man, she wants you back bro
>>101352693Surprisingly I've had more non vtuber streamers die than vtubers. Pretty sad, death is.
>>101353842fucking bpd bitch hope she kills herself
I bet Pukki fucks crazy good like a demon
scege is like that old uncle who doesn't understand certain things, and doesn't give a fuck anyways
I hoped that I could see them again today even if they were only lurking
>>101354084I'm sorry to bring the news but they is dead
>>101354098it's just killing me to not know what they think of me anymore
Rape women and kill them.
>>101354154you must be over the age of 18 to post on this site
>>101354172burgers are still awake
all the men are gettting raped at offkai, avoid vtuber women.
>>101354132Well, it's too late-they died!
I jack off to feces and bestiality
>>101354132Why don’t these people just ask whoever they want to?
I hope Pukki is at OffKai and I get to have sex with her.
I hope that those who go to offkai have a great time, please take any pictures of aba cosplayers if you see one...
>>101354154say it to another human being face to face :^)
Explain OffKai to me. Are there vtubers out there seriously just exposing themselves and shit?
>>101354633This will shock you, but vtubers are real people who live in the real world and interact with real people.
>>101354633Yeah they go to all the trouble of opsec then show up in person and show their ids to multiple staffers
>>101354688Just give everybody a fake name you retard
I really miss Andy... Her warm autism makes my heart doki doki
>>101354911She's starting a life in another country and probably never vtubing again
>>101355506I saw her once in some chuubas chat
I wish it could've worked out between us, but it's better that we go our separate ways
>>101355734quitter ngmi behavior
>>101355734You know that’s not true, you’re just scared of what might happen if we actually tried