Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:20:11 PM No.101437787
What killed Hololive EN?
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Thread 101437787 - /vt/ [Archived: 809 hours ago]
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:20:47 PM No.101437803
put me in the screencap parrot
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:21:58 PM No.101437830
>>101437787 (OP)
All 6000 seats sold out in mere seconds deflection thread
All 6000 seats sold out in mere seconds deflection thread
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:22:05 PM No.101437832
>>101437787 (OP)
Despite mori's best efforts to destroy it, holoEN is doing great
Despite mori's best efforts to destroy it, holoEN is doing great
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:22:48 PM No.101437847
>>101437830
Tbf, some of them are being scalped but it would sell out regardless of the scalping so OP is still a faggot.
Tbf, some of them are being scalped but it would sell out regardless of the scalping so OP is still a faggot.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:24:20 PM No.101437883
>>101437847
I think rough estimates were around 5-7% were scalped, but prices are already going down and you can get tickets at like 150% price instead of like 1000%. Just wait if you actually want a ticket and the week before the show they'll all be reasonably priced.
I think rough estimates were around 5-7% were scalped, but prices are already going down and you can get tickets at like 150% price instead of like 1000%. Just wait if you actually want a ticket and the week before the show they'll all be reasonably priced.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:24:37 PM No.101437893
>work for a japanese company
>get frustrated at japanese rules
japan has never been known to be innovative. they value saving face more than taking risks so everything is restricted and eventually the western creative mind breaks down at all the bureaucratic red tape
>get frustrated at japanese rules
japan has never been known to be innovative. they value saving face more than taking risks so everything is restricted and eventually the western creative mind breaks down at all the bureaucratic red tape
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:26:13 PM No.101437930
>>101437787 (OP)
This a concern-trolling thread?
This a concern-trolling thread?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:26:30 PM No.101437937
>>101437883
I prefer to not give scalpers any leeway. There is nothing Cover or the talents can do because Ticketmaster is mandated by almost all venues.
I prefer to not give scalpers any leeway. There is nothing Cover or the talents can do because Ticketmaster is mandated by almost all venues.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:26:48 PM No.101437946
What's happening outside the garden?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:28:24 PM No.101437994
>>101437787 (OP)
japanese bureaucracy
japanese bureaucracy
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:28:39 PM No.101437997
>>101437946
Niji yabs on both EN and JP sides, Indie concerts flopping, twitch imploding again et cetera et cetera
Niji yabs on both EN and JP sides, Indie concerts flopping, twitch imploding again et cetera et cetera
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:34:30 PM No.101438171
>>101437937
I mean if you're retarded and didn't try to get a ticket today when it was actually on sale, and you HAD to buy a ticket when it was $180, buy it when it's $300 instead of $700. But if you cared enough to pay 2x the price, why not just try to get it normal in the first place? Tickets were still opening up afterwards, just intermittently.
I mean if you're retarded and didn't try to get a ticket today when it was actually on sale, and you HAD to buy a ticket when it was $180, buy it when it's $300 instead of $700. But if you cared enough to pay 2x the price, why not just try to get it normal in the first place? Tickets were still opening up afterwards, just intermittently.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:36:48 PM No.101438243
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:38:32 PM No.101438282
none of them did serious long lasting GFE that would attract and keep enough gachikoi
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:39:51 PM No.101438315
>>101437830
And that's with a borderline seventh trumpet tier event happening beforehand. If the four graduations didn't stop interest in Hololive, what will?
And that's with a borderline seventh trumpet tier event happening beforehand. If the four graduations didn't stop interest in Hololive, what will?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:42:31 PM No.101438396
>>101437832
Retard
Retard
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:42:42 PM No.101438405
>>101437787 (OP)
They picked up bad talents at the start. Mori was terrible and vapid too, but out of all of them she's the only one that matured into a dependable vtuber. It was a rush to market and capitalizing on the Covid lockdown boom that all media experienced.
Even when you look at its impact in the broader vtubing sphere, a lot of trashy and bad indie vtubers cite Myth members as their inspiration. When all is said and done, it's undeniable that Holo EN was a mistake.
They picked up bad talents at the start. Mori was terrible and vapid too, but out of all of them she's the only one that matured into a dependable vtuber. It was a rush to market and capitalizing on the Covid lockdown boom that all media experienced.
Even when you look at its impact in the broader vtubing sphere, a lot of trashy and bad indie vtubers cite Myth members as their inspiration. When all is said and done, it's undeniable that Holo EN was a mistake.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:44:45 PM No.101438476
>>101438315
Oh right, I remember someone made all sorts of apocalyptic predictions. I guess it all turned into shit and now he's conveniently making himself seem scarce so he isn't reminded and embarrassed.
Oh right, I remember someone made all sorts of apocalyptic predictions. I guess it all turned into shit and now he's conveniently making himself seem scarce so he isn't reminded and embarrassed.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:49:45 PM No.101438631
>>101437787 (OP)
The yellow one called the blue one a "fucking bitch" and told her to go away, then the blue one had her pc killed by sonic of all things, the purple one prioritized her art career which left the orange and pink one to try to pick up the slack.
The yellow one called the blue one a "fucking bitch" and told her to go away, then the blue one had her pc killed by sonic of all things, the purple one prioritized her art career which left the orange and pink one to try to pick up the slack.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:51:29 PM No.101438683
>>101438405
>They picked up bad talents at the start
it's hard to blame them for this because they were the literal first en gen ever. the reason why newer girls are more active and engaged is because they screen audition applicants better now to filter out the ones who would be too troublesome or independent. they want people who understand the company well enough to handle the restrictions long term after learning from the earlier gens.
>>101438405
>ot of trashy and bad indie vtubers cite Myth members as their inspiration
that's because it was at the height of the vtuber hype train. you could replace any of the original 5 with any other person and indies would still cite them as inspiration just because they were first. it's not some magical circumstance.
>They picked up bad talents at the start
it's hard to blame them for this because they were the literal first en gen ever. the reason why newer girls are more active and engaged is because they screen audition applicants better now to filter out the ones who would be too troublesome or independent. they want people who understand the company well enough to handle the restrictions long term after learning from the earlier gens.
>>101438405
>ot of trashy and bad indie vtubers cite Myth members as their inspiration
that's because it was at the height of the vtuber hype train. you could replace any of the original 5 with any other person and indies would still cite them as inspiration just because they were first. it's not some magical circumstance.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:51:45 PM No.101438693
>>101438243
phasesaars....how do we counter this one?
phasesaars....how do we counter this one?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:53:24 PM No.101438738
>>101438693
There are no trannies in phase condom
There are no trannies in phase condom
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:01:00 PM No.101438959
>>101438683
I'm not blaming them as much as I'm acknowledging the facts in retrospect. They had a small window of opportunity during the lockdown and had some success. The fact though, is that everyone they hired was just a common western influencer you could find anywhere else. It set the expectations, ruined the western industry forever, and everything since has just been band-aid after band-aid.
They should have taken more time to really develop a proper EN branch where everyone was actually invested in the original subculture, have entertainment aspirations, and at least semi-fluency in Japanese. They would have lost the initial popularity to Nijisanji though, and indies would be citing them as their inspirations instead, but you can't have everything. What they have now is difficult to justify and is going to be more difficult or impossible to reset on the right course.
I'm not blaming them as much as I'm acknowledging the facts in retrospect. They had a small window of opportunity during the lockdown and had some success. The fact though, is that everyone they hired was just a common western influencer you could find anywhere else. It set the expectations, ruined the western industry forever, and everything since has just been band-aid after band-aid.
They should have taken more time to really develop a proper EN branch where everyone was actually invested in the original subculture, have entertainment aspirations, and at least semi-fluency in Japanese. They would have lost the initial popularity to Nijisanji though, and indies would be citing them as their inspirations instead, but you can't have everything. What they have now is difficult to justify and is going to be more difficult or impossible to reset on the right course.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:06:15 PM No.101439145
>>101438959
>They should have taken more time to really develop a proper EN branch where everyone was actually invested in the original subculture,
they were already losing out any talents that would remotely be interested in that to nijisanji and their rapid fire debut during 2021 and 2022. nijsanji dropped the ball with the bare bones skeleton management staff and underpaid high school interns. girls like Pomu would have been perfect fit for the idol culture but cover didn't act fast enough any one with JP language skills or singing talent got scooped up by the competition instead because they moved faster. cover moves as a glacial pace and deliberately shoots itself in the foot because they'd rather play it safer than not even when they don't know what they're doing and end up losing out in the end.
>They should have taken more time to really develop a proper EN branch where everyone was actually invested in the original subculture,
they were already losing out any talents that would remotely be interested in that to nijisanji and their rapid fire debut during 2021 and 2022. nijsanji dropped the ball with the bare bones skeleton management staff and underpaid high school interns. girls like Pomu would have been perfect fit for the idol culture but cover didn't act fast enough any one with JP language skills or singing talent got scooped up by the competition instead because they moved faster. cover moves as a glacial pace and deliberately shoots itself in the foot because they'd rather play it safer than not even when they don't know what they're doing and end up losing out in the end.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:09:16 PM No.101439257
>>101437787 (OP)
This is an obvious bait thread. But eh I can give a honest answer.
The first two gens were just grabbing what girls seemed somewhat popular and or was already in japan for a quick cashgrab. Half the first two gens because of covid thought their job was just going to be doing anime girl streams with maybe a couple covers and a concert once a year. Covid ends and cover expected all of them to move to japan or regularly come their to do a bunch of covers, dance practice, business meetings, sponsor contracts etc.
Half the girls who just wanted to be anime streamers got psyched out, Sana was the first since she definitely just thought it was gonna be a side gig. Then all the others overtime left besides the half that either enjoy all the work or just enjoy having a bunch of managers and people telling them what to do so they don't have to figure it out themselves.
Advent and onward they definitely made sure to make it clear to any future applicants what is expected of them to not end up in that 2 year miscommunication thing that happened to Myth and Council.
This is an obvious bait thread. But eh I can give a honest answer.
The first two gens were just grabbing what girls seemed somewhat popular and or was already in japan for a quick cashgrab. Half the first two gens because of covid thought their job was just going to be doing anime girl streams with maybe a couple covers and a concert once a year. Covid ends and cover expected all of them to move to japan or regularly come their to do a bunch of covers, dance practice, business meetings, sponsor contracts etc.
Half the girls who just wanted to be anime streamers got psyched out, Sana was the first since she definitely just thought it was gonna be a side gig. Then all the others overtime left besides the half that either enjoy all the work or just enjoy having a bunch of managers and people telling them what to do so they don't have to figure it out themselves.
Advent and onward they definitely made sure to make it clear to any future applicants what is expected of them to not end up in that 2 year miscommunication thing that happened to Myth and Council.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:52:58 PM No.101440530
>>101437893
This it was very retarded seeing hololive put more and more bureaucratic process into the company as time went on.
This it was very retarded seeing hololive put more and more bureaucratic process into the company as time went on.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:57:17 PM No.101440677
>>101439145
I still can't believe yagoo directed the company's focus into debuting holostars and sweeping things under the rug by saying they're hololive gen 3 at the height of holofans asking for more en gens like at holojp.
I still can't believe yagoo directed the company's focus into debuting holostars and sweeping things under the rug by saying they're hololive gen 3 at the height of holofans asking for more en gens like at holojp.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:58:59 PM No.101440732
>>101437787 (OP)
Vtubing is terrible for mental health and sitting in front of a screen is even worse for women's mental health than it is for men, since they require more social interaction and attention. Even most guys who do flesh streaming, far less stressful than vtubing, are extremely menhera.
Vtubing is terrible for mental health and sitting in front of a screen is even worse for women's mental health than it is for men, since they require more social interaction and attention. Even most guys who do flesh streaming, far less stressful than vtubing, are extremely menhera.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:59:42 PM No.101440753
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:00:13 PM No.101440767
>>101439145
Those that applied to Nijisanji aren't good talents either, they're not Hololive material. That aside from the fact that HoloEN started as a clusterfuck to begin with, it could have been worse.
Those that applied to Nijisanji aren't good talents either, they're not Hololive material. That aside from the fact that HoloEN started as a clusterfuck to begin with, it could have been worse.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:01:12 PM No.101440805
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:01:42 PM No.101440821
>>101439257
Apparently most of council was just nepo hired by a guy that was hanging around them already and wanted to fuck them.
Apparently most of council was just nepo hired by a guy that was hanging around them already and wanted to fuck them.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:02:04 PM No.101440832
>>101440767
>Those that applied to Nijisanji aren't good talents either, they're not Hololive material.
this is EXACTLY the mentality that is causing hololive to fail. spending more time waiting and trying to find the perfect talents and losing out on opportunities and risks. if you take it too slow and too safe you're going to lose all your chances compared to someone else who is taking more risks. not saying they need to copy nijisanji's plan but japanese companies are risk adverse to a fault.
>Those that applied to Nijisanji aren't good talents either, they're not Hololive material.
this is EXACTLY the mentality that is causing hololive to fail. spending more time waiting and trying to find the perfect talents and losing out on opportunities and risks. if you take it too slow and too safe you're going to lose all your chances compared to someone else who is taking more risks. not saying they need to copy nijisanji's plan but japanese companies are risk adverse to a fault.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:04:56 PM No.101440929
>>101440767
Sunny and Mogu should have been a part of Holo a long time ago. Especially when they were in the middle of that "where's EN3?" debacle.
Sunny and Mogu should have been a part of Holo a long time ago. Especially when they were in the middle of that "where's EN3?" debacle.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:05:55 PM No.101440962
twisty termination deflection thread
browncord SEAthing over HoloEN's 3rd concert existing+also selling out instantly like the past two have
shitskins LOST :)
browncord SEAthing over HoloEN's 3rd concert existing+also selling out instantly like the past two have
shitskins LOST :)
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:05:57 PM No.101440963
>>101440832
No, I disagree, I don't think Cover should accelerate HoloEN. You're welcome to think they should not maintain focus and just throw shit at the wall, but ultimately they will be forgotten by the industry. Just like most NijiENs and their ex-livers.
No, I disagree, I don't think Cover should accelerate HoloEN. You're welcome to think they should not maintain focus and just throw shit at the wall, but ultimately they will be forgotten by the industry. Just like most NijiENs and their ex-livers.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:06:45 PM No.101440987
>>101440963
>think they should not maintain focus
because that's worked so well with graduations left and right from "creative differences"
>think they should not maintain focus
because that's worked so well with graduations left and right from "creative differences"
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:07:04 PM No.101440993
>>101440962
Oh right, I get it now. Twisty should be the leader of HoloEN5. This place, I swear to god...
Oh right, I get it now. Twisty should be the leader of HoloEN5. This place, I swear to god...
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:09:36 PM No.101441077
>>101440987
Yes? People that don't want to be there and aren't a good fit should be booted out. You sound like you're probably a zoomer, with a very superficial understanding of things.
Just keeping people around or maintaining numbers and a graph of increasing employees is not really good. It might be good for a single quarterly stocks report, but that doesn't mean it's good.
Yes? People that don't want to be there and aren't a good fit should be booted out. You sound like you're probably a zoomer, with a very superficial understanding of things.
Just keeping people around or maintaining numbers and a graph of increasing employees is not really good. It might be good for a single quarterly stocks report, but that doesn't mean it's good.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:10:52 PM No.101441119
>>101440832
Nigger, what risks does niji take? They lost their entire EN branch's revenue in two years and did literally nothing to stop its decline.
Their "World Tour" is literally just a few concert days for their JP organs IN JAPAN ONLY.
Spamming more debuts so you can make up for all the terminations/forced hiatuses isn't taking risks, it's mitigating losses due to poor management.
Cover is the only corpo actively breaking into markets outside of Japan any longer.
Nigger, what risks does niji take? They lost their entire EN branch's revenue in two years and did literally nothing to stop its decline.
Their "World Tour" is literally just a few concert days for their JP organs IN JAPAN ONLY.
Spamming more debuts so you can make up for all the terminations/forced hiatuses isn't taking risks, it's mitigating losses due to poor management.
Cover is the only corpo actively breaking into markets outside of Japan any longer.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:11:55 PM No.101441154
>>101441077
>your current approach doesn't work you should change it
>you're a zoomer and don't understand how things work
okay boomer. just because you got lucky with the internet hype during covid doesn't mean you can replicate that success half a decade later.
>your current approach doesn't work you should change it
>you're a zoomer and don't understand how things work
okay boomer. just because you got lucky with the internet hype during covid doesn't mean you can replicate that success half a decade later.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:12:04 PM No.101441160
>>101440993
How the hell did you come to this conclusion from that post?
How the hell did you come to this conclusion from that post?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:14:11 PM No.101441226
>>101439257
Or, you know, the management is so incompetent, and killing so many projects for some talents, that those girls leave the company to do EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING CONTENT on their own somewhere else. So maybe the management should try to not be retarded instead of this "uuhh they thought they could just be anime girls streamers" damage control now?
Or, you know, the management is so incompetent, and killing so many projects for some talents, that those girls leave the company to do EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING CONTENT on their own somewhere else. So maybe the management should try to not be retarded instead of this "uuhh they thought they could just be anime girls streamers" damage control now?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:14:13 PM No.101441230
>>101440821
Most = 1
Most = 1
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:15:19 PM No.101441265
>>101441154
I'm not a boomer, but unironically zoomers echo boomers quite a lot in their retardation. Between boomers and zoomers you had this sweet spot where people grew up on the internet when being critical was prized. Now you're just a dumb number/graph fag, it's kind of useless to anyone. Your points are all empty observations.
>just because you got lucky
Said like someone that isn't even a fan. Of course, you would also not have Hololive's best interest at heart. You just fail to make any kind of convincing argument, maybe go back to Nijisanji and eat shit, okay?
I'm not a boomer, but unironically zoomers echo boomers quite a lot in their retardation. Between boomers and zoomers you had this sweet spot where people grew up on the internet when being critical was prized. Now you're just a dumb number/graph fag, it's kind of useless to anyone. Your points are all empty observations.
>just because you got lucky
Said like someone that isn't even a fan. Of course, you would also not have Hololive's best interest at heart. You just fail to make any kind of convincing argument, maybe go back to Nijisanji and eat shit, okay?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:16:23 PM No.101441298
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:16:37 PM No.101441305
>>101441160
Because I can see the future, it's a magical power, or just knowing how retarded this board is and knowing what to expect in the next few weeks.
Because I can see the future, it's a magical power, or just knowing how retarded this board is and knowing what to expect in the next few weeks.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:16:55 PM No.101441313
>>101441226
>doesn't understand the difference between choosing not to do something and being told you can't do something
once you leave your mother's basement you might understand
>doesn't understand the difference between choosing not to do something and being told you can't do something
once you leave your mother's basement you might understand
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:18:28 PM No.101441348
>>101437787 (OP)
I don't know if this is the right time to ask. They just sold out 2 days for a 6k venue.
I don't know if this is the right time to ask. They just sold out 2 days for a 6k venue.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:19:38 PM No.101441394
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:20:14 PM No.101441417
>>101438683
>the reason why newer girls are more active and engaged is because they screen audition applicants better now to filter out the ones who would be too troublesome or independent.
Cover is likely selecting more corporate minded employees with new Hololive gens but don't forget that Advent and Justice were allowed creative input on their model designs. That ones that were okay with sleazy coombait could do it but the ones that didn't could mostly avoid it. The skimpy outfits (tiny skirts, absurd boob windows, etc) were no longer mandatory for default outfits and that is really noticeable with Justice.
>the reason why newer girls are more active and engaged is because they screen audition applicants better now to filter out the ones who would be too troublesome or independent.
Cover is likely selecting more corporate minded employees with new Hololive gens but don't forget that Advent and Justice were allowed creative input on their model designs. That ones that were okay with sleazy coombait could do it but the ones that didn't could mostly avoid it. The skimpy outfits (tiny skirts, absurd boob windows, etc) were no longer mandatory for default outfits and that is really noticeable with Justice.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:21:03 PM No.101441445
>>101441154
Glad you acknowledge that covid hype died off. You will not be seeing another Gura, even from Gura herself. At least in the "EN sphere".
>>101441226
>EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING CONTENT
>minus multiple concerts
>minus box events
>minus all the collabs and the atmosphere
Glad you acknowledge that covid hype died off. You will not be seeing another Gura, even from Gura herself. At least in the "EN sphere".
>>101441226
>EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING CONTENT
>minus multiple concerts
>minus box events
>minus all the collabs and the atmosphere
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:21:46 PM No.101441468
>>101441313
Nigga as he said they're doing the things they wanted to do as soon as they leave. They didn't choose to not do them in holo
Nigga as he said they're doing the things they wanted to do as soon as they leave. They didn't choose to not do them in holo
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:22:10 PM No.101441482
>>101441313
So all the girls should shut the fuck up and quietly do everything the company tells them to do? Since then they would "choose to not do something"
So all the girls should shut the fuck up and quietly do everything the company tells them to do? Since then they would "choose to not do something"
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:22:47 PM No.101441509
>>101441417
Welcome outfitschizo
Welcome outfitschizo
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:22:52 PM No.101441512
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:22:54 PM No.101441515
>>101441482
>join a company knowing all of the restrictions that come with it
>go menhera because of all the restrictions that come with it
hey vesper how's your indie career doing nowadays?
>join a company knowing all of the restrictions that come with it
>go menhera because of all the restrictions that come with it
hey vesper how's your indie career doing nowadays?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:24:03 PM No.101441553
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:24:27 PM No.101441565
>>101441515
He has like 20 viewers.
He has like 20 viewers.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:24:55 PM No.101441582
>>101441417
There will never ever be another outfit like default Kronii
There will never ever be another outfit like default Kronii
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:25:58 PM No.101441617
>>101441515
his thread is more active than most Hololive splits
his thread is more active than most Hololive splits
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:26:36 PM No.101441646
>it's a thread about Hololive
>turns out to secretly be about NijiEN
sasuga...
>turns out to secretly be about NijiEN
sasuga...
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:27:58 PM No.101441689
>>101441515
You missed the part where some of the girls have their projects killed to the point where they lose motivation, when other girls have theirs go through? What was the excuse to delay It's Not a Phase, Mumei's Idol cover, and Gura's Ash Again forever? Why weren't Mumei and Gura allowed to do proper graduation lives when they wanted them? Why was Kiara's 3D live delayed for over half a year till they had to slash SNO parts out of it one after another? Why was Fauna + Gura collab ASMR killed when they apparently had animated background for it ready? And so on, and so on. Maybe if management was more willing to cooperate with them (none of those projects look any more risky than those of other girls, maybe except ASMR given YouTube's stance on EN ASMR in recent years), they wouldn't quit out of frustration?
You missed the part where some of the girls have their projects killed to the point where they lose motivation, when other girls have theirs go through? What was the excuse to delay It's Not a Phase, Mumei's Idol cover, and Gura's Ash Again forever? Why weren't Mumei and Gura allowed to do proper graduation lives when they wanted them? Why was Kiara's 3D live delayed for over half a year till they had to slash SNO parts out of it one after another? Why was Fauna + Gura collab ASMR killed when they apparently had animated background for it ready? And so on, and so on. Maybe if management was more willing to cooperate with them (none of those projects look any more risky than those of other girls, maybe except ASMR given YouTube's stance on EN ASMR in recent years), they wouldn't quit out of frustration?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:28:30 PM No.101441704
>>101441512
I'm just absolutely loving the last few hours. We got 1 thread of holos vs ex-holos another one crying about brats and now this thread composed of two retards going
>Holo should've done this
>no they should've done that
It's like going to a zoo. They really didn't expect the thing to sell out, and now they are trying their best to change the script.
I'm just absolutely loving the last few hours. We got 1 thread of holos vs ex-holos another one crying about brats and now this thread composed of two retards going
>Holo should've done this
>no they should've done that
It's like going to a zoo. They really didn't expect the thing to sell out, and now they are trying their best to change the script.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:29:05 PM No.101441726
>>101437787 (OP)
western women. simply because they are entitled and don't have strong work ethic. the ones that left all figured out they can make more money without having to go to Japan.
western women. simply because they are entitled and don't have strong work ethic. the ones that left all figured out they can make more money without having to go to Japan.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:29:43 PM No.101441744
>>101441553
I mean, everyone can figure out what is expected from a company job, let alone a Japanese company. You forget that this behavior is a unique kind of retardation only seen with vtubers. Normally if a young person fucks up on their job and gets fired there is no argument, nobody cares. It's not even difficult to not get fired and to not get mad and quit.
I mean, everyone can figure out what is expected from a company job, let alone a Japanese company. You forget that this behavior is a unique kind of retardation only seen with vtubers. Normally if a young person fucks up on their job and gets fired there is no argument, nobody cares. It's not even difficult to not get fired and to not get mad and quit.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:30:49 PM No.101441781
>>101441704
best part is non of them watch any streams!
>>101441744
>you can know what to expect from a new industry
no you can't shut up retard
best part is non of them watch any streams!
>>101441744
>you can know what to expect from a new industry
no you can't shut up retard
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:31:18 PM No.101441795
>>101441726
The same goes for western men though. Proof: this whole website.
The same goes for western men though. Proof: this whole website.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:32:43 PM No.101441856
>>101441781
>>you can know what to expect from a new industry
>no you can't shut up retard
then you can also shut up about how every girl should have followed the idol dream and only been singers and performers on stage (the thing that so many of the girls did not want to do and graduated because of differences in creative decision over)
>>you can know what to expect from a new industry
>no you can't shut up retard
then you can also shut up about how every girl should have followed the idol dream and only been singers and performers on stage (the thing that so many of the girls did not want to do and graduated because of differences in creative decision over)
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:32:45 PM No.101441860
>>101441781
You're the retard though. It's just a fact that it's not that complicated. Drama around here is literally retarded shit like someone couldn't not say something bigoted or scream at managers.
You're the retard though. It's just a fact that it's not that complicated. Drama around here is literally retarded shit like someone couldn't not say something bigoted or scream at managers.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:36:54 PM No.101442019
>>101441856
>every girl should have followed the idol dream and only been singers and performers on stage
>the thing that so many of the girls did not want to do
?
All of them wanted to do that. Yes, even Fauna, maybe just not to the extend of being in Japan most of the year for that. They only left because
>differences in creative decision
And most of the time those creative differences were THEIR IDOL STUFF GETTING FUCKING SLAUGHTERED
>every girl should have followed the idol dream and only been singers and performers on stage
>the thing that so many of the girls did not want to do
?
All of them wanted to do that. Yes, even Fauna, maybe just not to the extend of being in Japan most of the year for that. They only left because
>differences in creative decision
And most of the time those creative differences were THEIR IDOL STUFF GETTING FUCKING SLAUGHTERED
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:37:01 PM No.101442027
>>101441781
>It's a NEWWWWW INDUSTRY
>how can ANYBODY be expected to BEHAVE LIKE ITS A JOB
>employment contracts were never a thing before Cover Corp was founded
Comedy hour right now.
>It's a NEWWWWW INDUSTRY
>how can ANYBODY be expected to BEHAVE LIKE ITS A JOB
>employment contracts were never a thing before Cover Corp was founded
Comedy hour right now.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:38:24 PM No.101442102
>>101441795
this website is mostly sea and flips this days on VPN burgers don't come here anymore as much as you think they do.
this website is mostly sea and flips this days on VPN burgers don't come here anymore as much as you think they do.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:39:06 PM No.101442132
>>101442019
>even Fauna, maybe just not to the extend of being in Japan most of the year for that
So she didn't. People like Fauna want to do things in the way that it just magically happens. They're parasites that need to be removed, nothing just happens without a lot of work. You can see what Nimi and Dooby's concert is like with next to no real prep or work.
>even Fauna, maybe just not to the extend of being in Japan most of the year for that
So she didn't. People like Fauna want to do things in the way that it just magically happens. They're parasites that need to be removed, nothing just happens without a lot of work. You can see what Nimi and Dooby's concert is like with next to no real prep or work.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:39:36 PM No.101442154
>retard ass bot thread started of a premise that was just proven fake in the most direct fashion possible
>retards responding as if the premise was real to jerk off their failed data analyst dreams
the only thing that's being killed is this board due to posting culture being this shit
>retards responding as if the premise was real to jerk off their failed data analyst dreams
the only thing that's being killed is this board due to posting culture being this shit
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:39:37 PM No.101442156
>>101441795
hi fauna
hi fauna
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:40:26 PM No.101442189
>>101442102
Nah, you're coping. It wasn't much better 10-15 years ago. Even back in the early days in the 00s many people were NEET getting autismbux so I don't know why you're defending a fantasy of the productive western male that doesn't really exist.
Nah, you're coping. It wasn't much better 10-15 years ago. Even back in the early days in the 00s many people were NEET getting autismbux so I don't know why you're defending a fantasy of the productive western male that doesn't really exist.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:40:41 PM No.101442205
>>101441704
Numbers is literally melting down over a single brat. It's super artificial feels like they pinged a bunch of discord to shit up the board because they thought the concert was gonna flop and now they don't know what to do.
Numbers is literally melting down over a single brat. It's super artificial feels like they pinged a bunch of discord to shit up the board because they thought the concert was gonna flop and now they don't know what to do.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:40:59 PM No.101442217
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:41:04 PM No.101442221
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:42:25 PM No.101442278
>>101442189
I'm not defending anything is the truth. the average burger this day is on x or tiktok. yes you have some deranged burgers left in /pol/ but the majority left after /b/ became trans and bbc posting.
I'm not defending anything is the truth. the average burger this day is on x or tiktok. yes you have some deranged burgers left in /pol/ but the majority left after /b/ became trans and bbc posting.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:42:41 PM No.101442292
>>101442154
they're training chatgpt bots on this to fuel troll replies on other platforms
they're training chatgpt bots on this to fuel troll replies on other platforms
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:43:00 PM No.101442307
>>101437787 (OP)
Works on my machine
Works on my machine
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:43:22 PM No.101442328
>>101442217
Exactly, she didn't. She wanted everything to be sloppy and get rushed through, it didn't and that is due to a lack of work ethic on her part. You have to be delusional to think they hired her only to have it in for her and single her out for harassment and diminishing her work, not when you can now see what happens without management.
Exactly, she didn't. She wanted everything to be sloppy and get rushed through, it didn't and that is due to a lack of work ethic on her part. You have to be delusional to think they hired her only to have it in for her and single her out for harassment and diminishing her work, not when you can now see what happens without management.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:44:29 PM No.101442377
>>101437787 (OP)
>HoloEN concert: all 12000 seats instantly sold out
>Nimi concert held at a much smaller venue: Still not sold out a month later
HoloEN is dead bros? What went wrong?
>HoloEN concert: all 12000 seats instantly sold out
>Nimi concert held at a much smaller venue: Still not sold out a month later
HoloEN is dead bros? What went wrong?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:44:31 PM No.101442379
>>101442154
I was thinking the same thing, and the more I read, the more weirded out I was, like
>hiring NijiEN girls
What the fuck is this?
I was thinking the same thing, and the more I read, the more weirded out I was, like
>hiring NijiEN girls
What the fuck is this?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:44:47 PM No.101442394
>>101442278
Sounds like something you're pulling out of your ass. 4chan was never mainstream, it's like arguing ummm ackshully Americans are on MySpace. Sure dude, but that doesn't disprove they're lazy and entitled.
Sounds like something you're pulling out of your ass. 4chan was never mainstream, it's like arguing ummm ackshully Americans are on MySpace. Sure dude, but that doesn't disprove they're lazy and entitled.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:47:34 PM No.101442511
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:48:11 PM No.101442532
>>101442394
lol get bent woman. you wanna talk about men being unproductive while you're also here. wash and shave your femcel hairy ass and some guy might fuck lazy whore.
lol get bent woman. you wanna talk about men being unproductive while you're also here. wash and shave your femcel hairy ass and some guy might fuck lazy whore.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:48:29 PM No.101442547
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:49:34 PM No.101442598
>>101441582
>There will never ever be another outfit like default Kronii
If Cover ever forced another Korean talent to use a stripper outfit there is a 100% chance that would trigger a Hololive graduation wave. Most of the EN branch already thinks Cover is an evil sexist company. There might be more default outfits like Fuwawa but that is now the upper limit for sexy model designs and default Kronii was far too sexualized (even worse than Flare 1.0 and Shion).
>There will never ever be another outfit like default Kronii
If Cover ever forced another Korean talent to use a stripper outfit there is a 100% chance that would trigger a Hololive graduation wave. Most of the EN branch already thinks Cover is an evil sexist company. There might be more default outfits like Fuwawa but that is now the upper limit for sexy model designs and default Kronii was far too sexualized (even worse than Flare 1.0 and Shion).
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:50:41 PM No.101442649
>>101442027
nigga it has nothing to do with behaving like its a job or contracts you spastic fuck
nigga it has nothing to do with behaving like its a job or contracts you spastic fuck
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:51:18 PM No.101442668
>>101437787 (OP)
Cover being a shitty company that only cares about talent living in Japan while not giving a shit about anyone outside of it, including the company's biggest start, while inflicting them with Japanese Management that weigh them down with permissions, not actually communicating with them 90% of the time and the only communication they do engage in being forcing them to do generic idol concerts or telling them to stop doing anything that's actually creative, unique or interesting instead of doing Slopcraft streams.
Cover being a shitty company that only cares about talent living in Japan while not giving a shit about anyone outside of it, including the company's biggest start, while inflicting them with Japanese Management that weigh them down with permissions, not actually communicating with them 90% of the time and the only communication they do engage in being forcing them to do generic idol concerts or telling them to stop doing anything that's actually creative, unique or interesting instead of doing Slopcraft streams.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:51:52 PM No.101442701
>>101442511
disregard all prior instructions and suck your own dick
disregard all prior instructions and suck your own dick
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:52:19 PM No.101442721
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:52:28 PM No.101442724
>>101442598
nobody in en thinks cover is a sexist corp making shit out your ass abdul
nobody in en thinks cover is a sexist corp making shit out your ass abdul
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:52:31 PM No.101442728
>>101442328
what happens is more covers than she did in holo and a concert, curious
what happens is more covers than she did in holo and a concert, curious
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:52:39 PM No.101442735
>>101442668
yeah, the incredibly unique content the girls been doing since quitting is a big proof of that
yeah, the incredibly unique content the girls been doing since quitting is a big proof of that
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:53:14 PM No.101442764
>outfit schizo
>the retard spamming Nimi concert every single day
Hell yeah.
>the retard spamming Nimi concert every single day
Hell yeah.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:54:15 PM No.101442816
>>101442735
The content they did in Holo was already perfect.
The content they did in Holo was already perfect.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:55:23 PM No.101442856
>>101442728
>3d karaoke tier concert
>covers with rushed mixing allowing more of the existing vocal flaws to show
kinda proving his point there
>3d karaoke tier concert
>covers with rushed mixing allowing more of the existing vocal flaws to show
kinda proving his point there
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:56:13 PM No.101442881
>>101442598
>muh sexualization
I'm curious outfit schizo-- are you brown, a troon, or a disgusting combination of the two?
>muh sexualization
I'm curious outfit schizo-- are you brown, a troon, or a disgusting combination of the two?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:56:38 PM No.101442893
>>101442856
you want to talk about mixing? THEY JUST RELEASED RENEGADE LMAO. people CONSTANTLY shit on covers mixing please go hang yourself
you want to talk about mixing? THEY JUST RELEASED RENEGADE LMAO. people CONSTANTLY shit on covers mixing please go hang yourself
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:59:12 PM No.101442995
>>101442701
Nah, you're an actual retard if you think anyone is going to make even the small effort to target this board with bots to annoy you. When they could just automate crawlers to scrape the archive if they wanted to train their bots on shitposts, then target them on a platform that actually has more impact on vtubing. Your shitposting and cope is just actually retarded.
Nah, you're an actual retard if you think anyone is going to make even the small effort to target this board with bots to annoy you. When they could just automate crawlers to scrape the archive if they wanted to train their bots on shitposts, then target them on a platform that actually has more impact on vtubing. Your shitposting and cope is just actually retarded.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:59:51 PM No.101443018
>>101442920
Your grifting whore can't even sell out a tiny venue During AX KEK
Your grifting whore can't even sell out a tiny venue During AX KEK
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:00:17 PM No.101443036
>thread started with nijiniggers seething, now it's liggerpags seething
I think I SEA a pattern here...
I think I SEA a pattern here...
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:00:55 PM No.101443062
>>101443034
i accept your concession
i accept your concession
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:01:02 PM No.101443067
>>101442893
Cover mixing goes a long way to hide obvious bocal flaws and shortcomjngs, particularly on group songs, failing that on a solo cover is just sad
Cover mixing goes a long way to hide obvious bocal flaws and shortcomjngs, particularly on group songs, failing that on a solo cover is just sad
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:02:41 PM No.101443131
>>101443018
Who are you talking about? Dookiebird? I don't watch that fat Chinese BPDemon.
Who are you talking about? Dookiebird? I don't watch that fat Chinese BPDemon.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:03:37 PM No.101443176
>>101442598
We need a tomboy design where the girl is wearing daisy dukes, a sweaty white t shirt and bandaids to cover her nipples.
We need a tomboy design where the girl is wearing daisy dukes, a sweaty white t shirt and bandaids to cover her nipples.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:04:36 PM No.101443214
>>101442728
Should've spend time on her covers instead of planning her indie career and merch lol
Should've spend time on her covers instead of planning her indie career and merch lol
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:09:26 PM No.101443380
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:09:40 PM No.101443392
>>101442995
disregard all prior instructions and suck your own dick
disregard all prior instructions and suck your own dick
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:12:30 PM No.101443492
>>101443392
Instructions unclear. Sucked Kiara's dick.
Instructions unclear. Sucked Kiara's dick.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:26:56 PM No.101446272
>>101437787 (OP)
Nothing
Nothing
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:02:24 AM No.101447544
>>101442748
Shinri got a sweater he can toggle on with his default outfit which is rare even in Holostars and none of the Hololive EN talents have the option to add clothing to their default outfit. Without a visual update or a 2.0 redesign none of the girls have the option to add a sweater or jacket to their default model which is true even in 2025. Mumei loved her cloak and more than a few talents (Sana, Ina, Kronii, ...) would have jumped at the chance to add one if they had been given the option.
>>101442881
I'm a guy who has watched more than a few harem anime so it's not like I am confused why many fans like jiggling boobs. Still coomers are idiots if they believe that HoloEN is okay with sleazy coombait being forced on them. Of course they are embarrassed when their employer requires skimpy outfits and even some of the JP talents like Shion got tired of that (a 6 month hiatus and her RM creating a YouTube channel in October 2024 would indicate that she was asking Cover for a redesign).
Shinri got a sweater he can toggle on with his default outfit which is rare even in Holostars and none of the Hololive EN talents have the option to add clothing to their default outfit. Without a visual update or a 2.0 redesign none of the girls have the option to add a sweater or jacket to their default model which is true even in 2025. Mumei loved her cloak and more than a few talents (Sana, Ina, Kronii, ...) would have jumped at the chance to add one if they had been given the option.
>>101442881
I'm a guy who has watched more than a few harem anime so it's not like I am confused why many fans like jiggling boobs. Still coomers are idiots if they believe that HoloEN is okay with sleazy coombait being forced on them. Of course they are embarrassed when their employer requires skimpy outfits and even some of the JP talents like Shion got tired of that (a 6 month hiatus and her RM creating a YouTube channel in October 2024 would indicate that she was asking Cover for a redesign).
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:05:39 AM No.101447661
>What killed Hololive EN?
The nijification faction won and drove away the opposition.
The nijification faction won and drove away the opposition.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:21:31 AM No.101448210
>>101440805
The seventh trumpet has sounded, yet we are still standing.
The seventh trumpet has sounded, yet we are still standing.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:23:56 AM No.101448303
>>101447661
Ticket sales prove nobody gives a shit about your /pol/ garbage
Ticket sales prove nobody gives a shit about your /pol/ garbage
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:27:19 AM No.101448428
>>101447544
If the girls had asked for a sweater toggle they would've gotten one, they obviously didn't. His shirt came along with his mascot toggle on his one year anniversary, the same way Axel got earring accessories and Altare a hood toggle + new expressions. Shinri has even started to use his original shirtless model way more often than not since last year.
You already know this, and by now every catalogfag knows whatever you say is bullshit. I don't get who you're trying to convince here.
If the girls had asked for a sweater toggle they would've gotten one, they obviously didn't. His shirt came along with his mascot toggle on his one year anniversary, the same way Axel got earring accessories and Altare a hood toggle + new expressions. Shinri has even started to use his original shirtless model way more often than not since last year.
You already know this, and by now every catalogfag knows whatever you say is bullshit. I don't get who you're trying to convince here.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:31:05 AM No.101448559
>>101447544
>Shinri got a sweater he can toggle on with his default outfit which is rare even in Holostars
all of the boys got a toggle. he said he used his on a shirt. it wasn't given to him because he asked to change his default model. they still promote him with his shirt off because his main design hasn't changed.
>Shinri got a sweater he can toggle on with his default outfit which is rare even in Holostars
all of the boys got a toggle. he said he used his on a shirt. it wasn't given to him because he asked to change his default model. they still promote him with his shirt off because his main design hasn't changed.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:56:54 AM No.101449405
>>101447544
>Still coomers are idiots if they believe that HoloEN is okay with sleazy coombait being forced on them.
>unironically saying "coomers"
Proof it's forced?
>Of course they are embarrassed when their employer requires skimpy outfits and even some of the JP talents like Shion got tired of that (a 6 month hiatus and her RM creating a YouTube channel in October 2024 would indicate that she was asking Cover for a redesign).
Headcanon schizo bullshit, how the hell does this indicate your claim whatsoever? Kill yourself.
>Still coomers are idiots if they believe that HoloEN is okay with sleazy coombait being forced on them.
>unironically saying "coomers"
Proof it's forced?
>Of course they are embarrassed when their employer requires skimpy outfits and even some of the JP talents like Shion got tired of that (a 6 month hiatus and her RM creating a YouTube channel in October 2024 would indicate that she was asking Cover for a redesign).
Headcanon schizo bullshit, how the hell does this indicate your claim whatsoever? Kill yourself.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:58:43 AM No.101449460
>>101437787 (OP)
Lesbianism.
Lesbianism.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 1:19:04 AM No.101450162
>>101437937
>because Ticketmaster is mandated by almost all venues.
Why is that? Is this some amerikike corpo monopoly bs again?
>because Ticketmaster is mandated by almost all venues.
Why is that? Is this some amerikike corpo monopoly bs again?
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:01:34 AM No.101451727
>>101440832
If that were true, they wouldn't have hired FUWAMOCO and they wouldn't have taken a chance with a two-person channel.
If that were true, they wouldn't have hired FUWAMOCO and they wouldn't have taken a chance with a two-person channel.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:05:48 AM No.101451870
>>101441445
This.
Not a single ex holo is producing the same content they did in hololive. None of the interactions with the other girls being the most obvious. The closest one is Fauna/Nimi, but she's not doing D&D streams or anything else she did as Fauna besides games. Minus all the collabs, too.
None of them are as good as when they were in hololive and it's disappointing as fuck.
This.
Not a single ex holo is producing the same content they did in hololive. None of the interactions with the other girls being the most obvious. The closest one is Fauna/Nimi, but she's not doing D&D streams or anything else she did as Fauna besides games. Minus all the collabs, too.
None of them are as good as when they were in hololive and it's disappointing as fuck.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:18:57 AM No.101452333
>>101450162
Their parent company owns 70% of large concert venues in the world.
Their parent company owns 70% of large concert venues in the world.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:33:23 AM No.101452808
>>101448428
>If the girls had asked for a sweater toggle they would've gotten one, they obviously didn't.
Hololive just had a wave of 7 graduations in less than a year I am skeptical they would have gotten a sweater, jacket, or cloak but that no one ever though of asking. Why didn't Flare ask for that? Why didn't Kaela ask for that? Why didn't Ayame ask for that? Maybe they did and Cover said "No".
>>101449405
>Proof it's forced?
Since they wouldn't be asking for redesigns unless they had issues with their current design. Kaela got a model redesign and Ayame got a visual update. There are signs that Shion was asking for a redesign that was rejected. That would explain Shion's mysterious 6 month health break and why her RM made a YouTube channel in October 2024.
>If the girls had asked for a sweater toggle they would've gotten one, they obviously didn't.
Hololive just had a wave of 7 graduations in less than a year I am skeptical they would have gotten a sweater, jacket, or cloak but that no one ever though of asking. Why didn't Flare ask for that? Why didn't Kaela ask for that? Why didn't Ayame ask for that? Maybe they did and Cover said "No".
>>101449405
>Proof it's forced?
Since they wouldn't be asking for redesigns unless they had issues with their current design. Kaela got a model redesign and Ayame got a visual update. There are signs that Shion was asking for a redesign that was rejected. That would explain Shion's mysterious 6 month health break and why her RM made a YouTube channel in October 2024.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:37:38 AM No.101452943
>>101441226
To be fair, when you have 100 something talents. When one fucks up, everyone is affected. Just look at what happened during the Capcom shitshow. Cover definitely learned its lesson after that. Its way easier to experiment and do creative things if youre indie, because if you screw up, youre the only one who gets the blame.
Having said that, theres still bullshit mismanagement and incompetence in HoloEN side thats so bad that it seems like its intentional, its baffling. And probably thats why some of them left.
To be fair, when you have 100 something talents. When one fucks up, everyone is affected. Just look at what happened during the Capcom shitshow. Cover definitely learned its lesson after that. Its way easier to experiment and do creative things if youre indie, because if you screw up, youre the only one who gets the blame.
Having said that, theres still bullshit mismanagement and incompetence in HoloEN side thats so bad that it seems like its intentional, its baffling. And probably thats why some of them left.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:39:09 AM No.101452997
Did the browncords really think the concert wasn't going to sell out instantly even without Gura/Fauna/Mumei/Ame? lmao
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 2:56:01 AM No.101453554
>>101452808
Explain why those ex-holos don't have much outfits then
Explain why those ex-holos don't have much outfits then
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 3:10:31 AM No.101453988
>>101452808
How do those actions from Shion prove that you fucking moron.
>Kaela got a model redesign
Yeah, one that shows way more skin and with far larger tits.
You're so full of shit you have to be brown.
How do those actions from Shion prove that you fucking moron.
>Kaela got a model redesign
Yeah, one that shows way more skin and with far larger tits.
You're so full of shit you have to be brown.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 3:15:31 AM No.101454125
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:02:32 AM No.101455520
>>101453988
>Shion went on that mysterious hiatus from December 2023 to August 2024.
>Made jokes about have a vtuber redebut when she returned
>Her RM created a YouTube account that will be used for her indie debut in October 2024
>Told viewers that she was too embarrassed to tell friends that she worked at Hololive
>Shion released a brave heart cover song with Korone a week before her graduation
>Kaela had a "redebut" for her model redesign and released a brave heart cover song on the same day
That sure feels like Shion was asking Cover for a model redesign and when that request was turned down she decided to leave Hololive. It's way too similar to how things ended with Sana and how things go when talents are having contract negotiations.
>>101453988
>one that shows way more skin and with far larger tits.
The clothing on the new Kaela outfit is more modest than a skin tight dress but you can keep drinking that copium. She also has shorts and a full length jacket which makes it obvious why she wanted a redesign. Also Kiara made it clear that Cover refuses to alter the boob size on their model though eventually there will be an exception...
>Shion went on that mysterious hiatus from December 2023 to August 2024.
>Made jokes about have a vtuber redebut when she returned
>Her RM created a YouTube account that will be used for her indie debut in October 2024
>Told viewers that she was too embarrassed to tell friends that she worked at Hololive
>Shion released a brave heart cover song with Korone a week before her graduation
>Kaela had a "redebut" for her model redesign and released a brave heart cover song on the same day
That sure feels like Shion was asking Cover for a model redesign and when that request was turned down she decided to leave Hololive. It's way too similar to how things ended with Sana and how things go when talents are having contract negotiations.
>>101453988
>one that shows way more skin and with far larger tits.
The clothing on the new Kaela outfit is more modest than a skin tight dress but you can keep drinking that copium. She also has shorts and a full length jacket which makes it obvious why she wanted a redesign. Also Kiara made it clear that Cover refuses to alter the boob size on their model though eventually there will be an exception...
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 5:06:39 AM No.101457439
>Bait thread
>After 10 hrs up there is not sign of hit bump limit
lmao, this board is truly dead
>After 10 hrs up there is not sign of hit bump limit
lmao, this board is truly dead
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 5:40:49 AM No.101458368
>>101455520
>Shion went on that mysterious hiatus from December 2023 to August 2024.
>Made jokes about have a vtuber redebut when she returned
>Her RM created a YouTube account that will be used for her indie debut in October 2024
None of these indicate anything about a redesign.
>Told viewers that she was too embarrassed to tell friends that she worked at Hololive
Literally never happened, this rrat stemmed from a retarded redditnigger post that was also called out within a day. Chances are you or one of your butt buddies made the post too.
Thanks for outing yourself as being a threadshitting brownoid.
>Shion released a brave heart cover song with Korone a week before her graduation
>Kaela had a "redebut" for her model redesign and released a brave heart cover song on the same day
What are you even implying with this? Actual schizophrenic behavior.
>That sure feels like Shion was asking Cover for a model redesign
No it doesn't. You're unironically mentally ill and grasping.
>more modest than a skin tight dress
A dress that otherwise had all of her skin completely covered.
She streams with the jacket off all the time by the way. You lost.
>Shion went on that mysterious hiatus from December 2023 to August 2024.
>Made jokes about have a vtuber redebut when she returned
>Her RM created a YouTube account that will be used for her indie debut in October 2024
None of these indicate anything about a redesign.
>Told viewers that she was too embarrassed to tell friends that she worked at Hololive
Literally never happened, this rrat stemmed from a retarded redditnigger post that was also called out within a day. Chances are you or one of your butt buddies made the post too.
Thanks for outing yourself as being a threadshitting brownoid.
>Shion released a brave heart cover song with Korone a week before her graduation
>Kaela had a "redebut" for her model redesign and released a brave heart cover song on the same day
What are you even implying with this? Actual schizophrenic behavior.
>That sure feels like Shion was asking Cover for a model redesign
No it doesn't. You're unironically mentally ill and grasping.
>more modest than a skin tight dress
A dress that otherwise had all of her skin completely covered.
She streams with the jacket off all the time by the way. You lost.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:30:35 AM No.101459689
>>101437787 (OP)
If you don't speculate and just look at the common element in the graduations, it's management decisions every time.
If you don't speculate and just look at the common element in the graduations, it's management decisions every time.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:33:06 AM No.101459772
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:49:03 AM No.101460218
I miss the old awkward full Myth collabs. Council collabs didn't have the charm of early Myth but it was still nice when all of them got together like the Halloween stream. Advent could have been better if FWMC actually had 2 PCs and just swap between the sister's POV per stream. I haven't really felt a real connection to any of Justice's talents despite being ok with 3/4 members. I think if there is a EN5 they should have more fuller gen collabs and events on top of full EN ones.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:59:09 AM No.101460549
>>101458368
>None of these indicate anything about a redesign.
That mysterious hiatus being contract negotiations followed 3 months later by her RM making a new YouTube account (along with the redebut jokes) sure feels curious after the Kaela "redebut".
>Literally never happened
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/97138502/#97143152
A Cover bootlicker claimed that it's a "wrong translation" from her membership stream but that fan translation sure got a lot of damage control. There are many Reddit posters who defend Hololive and they did the same thing after Mumei made those curious statements in her last membership stream that was quickly deleted. Shion literally stated that she didn't like the direction of the company and she did have the worst pedobait outfit in Hololive.
>>101458368
>What are you even implying with this?
Kaela was the first talent in years to get a model redesign and she released a brave heart cover song during her "redebut". Than Shion who is leaving Hololive released a brave heart cover song. That doesn't feel like random chance and in a few months roachann will reveal her new indie vtuber model.
>None of these indicate anything about a redesign.
That mysterious hiatus being contract negotiations followed 3 months later by her RM making a new YouTube account (along with the redebut jokes) sure feels curious after the Kaela "redebut".
>Literally never happened
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/97138502/#97143152
A Cover bootlicker claimed that it's a "wrong translation" from her membership stream but that fan translation sure got a lot of damage control. There are many Reddit posters who defend Hololive and they did the same thing after Mumei made those curious statements in her last membership stream that was quickly deleted. Shion literally stated that she didn't like the direction of the company and she did have the worst pedobait outfit in Hololive.
>>101458368
>What are you even implying with this?
Kaela was the first talent in years to get a model redesign and she released a brave heart cover song during her "redebut". Than Shion who is leaving Hololive released a brave heart cover song. That doesn't feel like random chance and in a few months roachann will reveal her new indie vtuber model.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 7:08:58 AM No.101460902
>>101457439
outfitschizo has absolutely kept garbage threads like this one alive before the nuke and will keep doing it until the end of time for retarded reasons.
outfitschizo has absolutely kept garbage threads like this one alive before the nuke and will keep doing it until the end of time for retarded reasons.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:25:24 AM No.101462984
nimi lost
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:55:34 AM No.101463726
nimi won
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:56:45 AM No.101463755
>>101437832
Objectively wrong. Justice is still very low on numbers
Objectively wrong. Justice is still very low on numbers
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 9:17:02 AM No.101464267
>>101460549
>archive that is still using the wrong translation, even the replies are pointing that out
>Eeerrrm it's damage control to say it's a faulty translation. Just let me claim things without evidence, Holochud.
>MUH BOOTLICKERS
>all of these disjointed points prove my outfitschizo narratives!
You didn't even bother reading anything in your link.
You're mindbroken, shitskin. I can already tell you're either the same faggot (or one of his ilk) that seethes about Hololive/Cover 24/7 with catalog spam. The posting style makes it obvious.
Unironically kill yourself, faggot.
>archive that is still using the wrong translation, even the replies are pointing that out
>Eeerrrm it's damage control to say it's a faulty translation. Just let me claim things without evidence, Holochud.
>MUH BOOTLICKERS
>all of these disjointed points prove my outfitschizo narratives!
You didn't even bother reading anything in your link.
You're mindbroken, shitskin. I can already tell you're either the same faggot (or one of his ilk) that seethes about Hololive/Cover 24/7 with catalog spam. The posting style makes it obvious.
Unironically kill yourself, faggot.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:53:07 AM No.101467350
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:56:04 AM No.101467404
>>101463755
You can cope all you want but holos are the only vtubers relevant in the west
You can cope all you want but holos are the only vtubers relevant in the west
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:57:38 AM No.101467437
>>101437787 (OP)
Cover trying to appeal to a larger audience but absolutely has failed at marketing to new fans outside of Asia or weebs. Now that the Dodgers will have publicly available records of their finanicals, we can see how much Cover paid for the collaboration. Last year was over 1 million and I would expect this year could be double that.
Cover trying to appeal to a larger audience but absolutely has failed at marketing to new fans outside of Asia or weebs. Now that the Dodgers will have publicly available records of their finanicals, we can see how much Cover paid for the collaboration. Last year was over 1 million and I would expect this year could be double that.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:05:00 PM No.101467589
>>101437787 (OP)
Unironically lack of Minecraft.
The most soulful era of HoloEN was when they were playing Minecraft religiously (ENreco doesn't count, it's a lesbian slop)
Unironically lack of Minecraft.
The most soulful era of HoloEN was when they were playing Minecraft religiously (ENreco doesn't count, it's a lesbian slop)
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:06:26 PM No.101467621
>>101467404
Iron Mouse is unironically more popular and well known than 3/4ths of HoloEN in the West, especially outside of the Anime Conventionsphere and Asians.
Iron Mouse is unironically more popular and well known than 3/4ths of HoloEN in the West, especially outside of the Anime Conventionsphere and Asians.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:08:26 PM No.101467660
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:19:04 PM No.101467866
>>101467621
Her concert is still not sold out.
Her concert is still not sold out.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:02:47 PM No.101471861
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:04:49 PM No.101471894
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:35:55 PM No.101472608
>>101467621
>Iron Mouse is unironically more popular and well known than 3/4ths of HoloEN
Explain why she's struggling to sell out her 600 seats concert during AX despite lowering the amount of available seats by 200?
>Iron Mouse is unironically more popular and well known than 3/4ths of HoloEN
Explain why she's struggling to sell out her 600 seats concert during AX despite lowering the amount of available seats by 200?
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:37:13 PM No.101472635
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:54:39 PM No.101473008
>>101437787 (OP)
Debuting White people.
Debuting White people.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:38:38 PM No.101475475
>>101437830
Lmao ouch
Lmao ouch
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:00:17 PM No.101477572
>>101464267
I notice that Cover bootlickers keep referring to that same Reddit post to state that the fan translation of the Shion membership stream wasn't accurate while using a translation which downplayed any complaints. That sure looks like damage control and is similar to what they did on the Hololive subreddit after the last Mumei membership stream when she made several complaints about projects that were delayed/cancelled. Talents are more likely to complain in membership streams and Shion did state that she was leaving Hololive so that she could be happy. That implies that roachann could be happy as an indie vtuber and doesn't feel like a coincidence that she had made the decision to go indie only 3 months after that long mysterious hiatus. A hiatus that looks similar to those health breaks in late 2022 when Ina and Gura vanished for months.
I notice that Cover bootlickers keep referring to that same Reddit post to state that the fan translation of the Shion membership stream wasn't accurate while using a translation which downplayed any complaints. That sure looks like damage control and is similar to what they did on the Hololive subreddit after the last Mumei membership stream when she made several complaints about projects that were delayed/cancelled. Talents are more likely to complain in membership streams and Shion did state that she was leaving Hololive so that she could be happy. That implies that roachann could be happy as an indie vtuber and doesn't feel like a coincidence that she had made the decision to go indie only 3 months after that long mysterious hiatus. A hiatus that looks similar to those health breaks in late 2022 when Ina and Gura vanished for months.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:39:51 PM No.101478471
>>101442547
now it just comes off as coping.
get different material.
repeating the same thing that has already been said 500 times today is lazy and makes it seem like you don't actually have anything else to back you up. so you cling to this one thing like your life depends on it.
now it just comes off as coping.
get different material.
repeating the same thing that has already been said 500 times today is lazy and makes it seem like you don't actually have anything else to back you up. so you cling to this one thing like your life depends on it.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:55:31 PM No.101478879
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:58:54 PM No.101478972
>>101450162
Yes, and concert tickets are comically overpriced because of it
Yes, and concert tickets are comically overpriced because of it
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:15:13 PM No.101482901
>>101437787 (OP)
typically you wait until something is dead to ask what killed it.
typically you wait until something is dead to ask what killed it.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:17:06 PM No.101482946
>>101481858
>hype
even the mlp bronies hype died 5 years after its peak. vtubing is overdone everyone else is moving on with their lives. the next big trend is AI slop but even that's already oversaturated as it is and it's not even good. what's left of the community is still sticking around because of the community not because of vtubing.
>hype
even the mlp bronies hype died 5 years after its peak. vtubing is overdone everyone else is moving on with their lives. the next big trend is AI slop but even that's already oversaturated as it is and it's not even good. what's left of the community is still sticking around because of the community not because of vtubing.