Thread 101470872

How is what Brats did any where close to as bad as what kfp tried to force last year?

>>101470872 (OP)
>kfp chose unityfagging over repping kiara
this is why she's so unpopular

>>101470872 (OP)
everyone ignored KFP because it was just noise. Brats took tickets away from other fans.

>>101470872 (OP)
How is this supposed to matter whatsoever in comparison to robbing concert tickets?
Dishonest discord faggot. Kill yourself and die. I hope your plane falls apart on the flight out of SEA.

>>101470872 (OP)
What a coincidence that the largest, most central and best placed area is orange

>>101471202
it says right there that it's only for 1 song so even if it actually worked who actually gives aa damn?

>>101471202
Yep, that was the reason why everyone hates it lmao

>>101470872 (OP)
One organized penlights for all fanbases, one stole tickets so that the venue is filled with more brats

What cringed me the most is the brats defending the act and saying that having a venue filled more with their own is normal. Like sure, but don't be mad when other fanbases start doing the same thing and we end up in a massive civil war (and if chumbuds are still here, the brats would beg them for mercy)

>>101471282
they were really happy about the graduations lol

>>101470872 (OP)
You have shit memory if you don't remember this one being a controversy as well.

>>101471202
It’s honestly worse than this whole Bratcord nontroversy and I have no idea why KFP don’t catch more flak for it.

>>101471360
deflect harder 'cordnigger

>>101470872 (OP)
I will always hate kfp the most. Brats could rape my sister and I’d still kill a kfp before them.

>>101470872 (OP)
Imagine being so genuinely retarded that you think a light show is as malicious as scalping.

>>101470872 (OP)
>Chumbuds right in the center
As it should be. Our fanbase had too many normies so it wouldn't surprise me if KFP had more whales. Mori would have more fans on paper but she is always selling something.

>>101471529
kiara and mori are among the least popular members though

>>101470872 (OP)
if this was a worse yab than the brratcord hoarding, then why did i never heard of it being a controversy back then? it's a KFPcord-organized event so it should had been all over /vt/ that time.

>>101471606
Not in cons/concerts

>>101471606
Relative popularity doesn't matter at such a tiny event. What matters is who has the most whales. In Japan you could be a relatively casual fan and go to a live but for EN fans, most of them are traveling unless all EN fans are coincidentally from the one city their lives are in somehow, despite the fact none of the talents are from that region.

>trooning out because people aren't psychotically obsessed with KFP like you are
grim

>>101470872 (OP)
>comparing a fucking penlight show to a Discord for one member mass buying tickets and prioritizing selling them to the top members of that Discord

>>101471360
Retard

>>101471695
We don’t sign our posts here

>>101470872 (OP)
Oh, "how do I make everything happening in the vtuber space about Kiara" schizo is back.

>>101471923
Retard

>>101470872 (OP)
KFP and brrats are both as bad as each other, just look at how they derailed and shit up global threads for three whole fucking years on end on a daily basis whenever one random schizo shitposted; the only reason that bullshit lasted so long is because the fanbases joined in with it every single time.
KFP and brrats both /here/ and outside of here in discord and everywhere else have always been like this and their behavior has been consistent. They are the least unityfag fanbases and both act like they have to aggresively consolodate, push for and monopolize as much attention as they can get for their oshi or them themselves - probably on account of the fact that both Kiara and Bae are, and have always been, some of the least popular EN members and both have really tryhard personalities that the fans reflect.

Honestly at this point if both Kiara and Bae graduated and took all these fags with them it would be a fucking blessing.

>>101471282
the only merit this might have is that at least scalpers who don't care about vtubing at all might start losing tickets if the civil war grows big enough
but yea it basically turns buying tickets into hoping your fanbase is ok with handling logistics for their scalped tickets and being in the right discord servers

>>101470901
>unityfagging
>gave Kiara the front and center section

>>101470901
the most popular holos are actually the ones who are themselves the most unityfag and this is reflected in the fanbase e.g. currently Biboo is one of the most popular ENs because she is very enmeshed within the rest of EN and holo, regularly collabing and interacting with everyone and pebbles are one of the least tribalfag fanbases. The idea that being as tribalfag about your oshi as much as possible will somehow make them more popular has literally never worked.

>>101473166
I'm starting to nootice the common factor in Hollive fans shitting up the Hololive community is Hololive fans.

>>101473166
This

>>101473166
Brats are chill, KFP are always the problem. I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole Bratcord thing was just a gay op cooked up by KFP.

>>101474236
This. I’m a hooman and brats have always been cool meanwhile kfp jus shit things up for everyone.

>>101474236
Kek, sure, kfpiss sent that salted faggot to infiltrate and radicalize the chill brats

>>101474236
>Brats are chill
Nope those fags shit up my oshi's thread all the time, I have yet to see KFP raid my oshi's thread ever.

>>101470872 (OP)
The difference is this is retarded and what Saltedbread did was scummy.

Of course you fuckers try to make this about Kiara.

Fuck the brats for what they did

>>101474236
>I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole Bratcord thing was just a gay op cooked up by KFP.
Nope.

>>101474236
it's been documented with screenshots clearly showing long-time notable brat members in there, it's clearly not a gay-op. This is just who they are.

>>101478273
It is a gay-op. By long-time notable brat members.

>>101474296
> I’m a hooman and brats have always been cool
lol
lmao
they're literally celebrating that your oshi graduated. They were only chill with you when it was convenient for them.

>>101471360
>t. Brat

>>101470872 (OP)
Honestly, Bae started all this tribalfagging and bratcord scalping with her stupid rant about how she’d prefer you not even purchase a ticket than pay scalpers a dime.

>>101470872 (OP)
KFP weren't being SELFLESS FUCKING RETARDS in this case, YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER

>>101478450
Nah, fuck off with blame shifting.

Reminder that the whole Baecord is locked down (preventing people from getting tickets after they said they would sell them to other fans) and they're doing damage control.

>>101478621
I got a ticket just a few hours ago from them

>>101478621
Could it possibly be because a certain dramafag enticed the masses and keeps insisting that they're doing something even worse than the scalpers? (Perhaps with secondary intentions?)
Nah, no way.

>>101478621
...okay

>>101478644
Or it could be because they've fucked up, got caught being faggots and are now playing victim. Wonder which one it is.

>>101477746
This guy really dropped a chatgpt apology THEN went to Bae and superchatted her to gloat about what he did.

Amazing

>>101478778
It was a great plan to fuck scalpers over, you have to admit. Buy everything and redistribute it to real fans without making any profit.
What they didn't count on was how powerful scalpers really are and how much influence they have.

>>101478787
His "apology"
>I've been a fan for so long, been there since the beginning
>Sorry my actions made you feel this way
>Did I mention we all love you and had good intentions, that's what should count
>Everything I said was just a joke
It's the most non apology I've ever seen. SEAniggers are shameless.

>>101478878
>real fans
You mean select brats. This great plan had no effect on scalpers. They use bots and buy first anyways.The only people they fucked over are other fans.

>>101478878
No it wasn't a great plan. It was stupid and selfish. Even now, when everything is revealed and they're forced to sell the tickets to people other than Brats, they're having trouble doing it and they were originally going to do it just in their own Discord. Turns out there's a reason people use platforms as scummy as ticketmaster, because doing financial transactions with hundreds of people at once takes organization beyond a few people.

>>101479033
You do realize the brats used bots as well, right? Did you think scalpers just manifest tickets that wouldn't exist if they didn't buy them?

>>101478935
That's his 2nd apology to Bae after she did whole members write up.

Earlier, after all the twitter backlash, he posted some ai non-apology into discord and had his goons distribute it on twitter. Then hours later he sent that superchat to Bae gloating about securing tickets for the brats.

If you think that superchat is fake here's Bae reading it off. https://youtu.be/_2T3prIK7C8

It's from the samefag discord admin who started this whole drama.

FWIW I don't even give a fuck about the 450 tickets. I'm just annoyed this retard was unprofessional and let bvtm goons come into his discord and screenshot him shit talking other holos, fanbases, and graduated talents to stir the pot and create totally unnecessary drama for Bae. He could've just not talked like a faggot and this would've been a complete nothing burger but he had to go and insult Gura, Mumei, Ame, and Fauna's fans.

>>101479112
>brats used bots as well
they didn't

>>101479033
>select brats
Yeah, real fans. Amongst the Bae fanbase, that is.
The only thing I got from this whole deal is that you can never hope to do anything against scalpers.

>>101479136
I give a fuck about the 450 tickets and so do most people who aren't BVTM trannies trying to stir shit. Talking shit about other fanbases happens all the time, that's just hurt feelings. Hoarding hundreds or tickets actively impacts people's ability to enjoy their oshi.

>>101479136
>bvtm goons come into his discord
You are retarded, dramafag got these screenshots here after some /#/ monkeys started posting them. As he usually does.

>>101479248
Sure, you're the only real fan. Now crawl back to your discord, those tickets won't sell temselves.

>>101479294
It doesn't really matter if they went in or if some brats self reported him onto /vt/.

The point is this dipshit let himself get screencrapped behaving like a nigger when he's a representative of the fan server and wider fandom by extension.
If he was careful with his speech then this drama wouldn't be large as it is. At this point popular social media tards, prominent Brats, clip channels, etc are all having to denounce his words.

The kicker is this fucking loser refuses to show some grace and step down from his discord mod position to distance himself from what he did. Instead him and his queers are raiding /vt/ trying to defend themselves, as if anything here matters.

>>101479500
true that

>>101479369
I'm not a brat, but I side with them in this situation because genuinely, fuck scalpers. (No, they aren't scalping because they didn't sell anything at a profit apparently). I'd assume that most people feel the same but then BVTM showed up out of nowhere to complain and suddenly everyone's angry at them for trying to do something against the scalping menace. I guess supporting scalpers is far better than making a discord account right?
Not that you're ever going to listen to anything I say because you just want something to be angry about.

>>101479112
Doesn't even matter. It's either scalpers>discordfags>normal fans or scalpers+discordfags>normal fans. Normal fans get equally fucked either way.

>>101479679
Curious fact: despite how much /vt/ seems to hate Kiara, I haven't seen a single thread in the catalog with a screenshot of this tweet. Could this mean there's some weight to the rrat about scalpers trying to control the narrative? Only (You)r schizo feelings may tell.

>>101479855
No one cares that she said water is wet, anon. She isn't making some profound statement.

>>101479136
Slight correction here, he actually sent that gloating superchat in the morning right after the ticket sales before all the drama started growing out of control and she read it during her next stream the following night

What's funny is that Bae's biggest paypig realized what a load of shit they had gotten themselves into and had been desperately trying to contact the discord admin all day to guide him through deleting that superchat before she could get around to reading it to avoid Bae finding out about everything (because the paypig is obsessed with bae and would kill himself if she found out he was complicit in something she disagreed with) but the admin went MIA and offline all day after he threw out the initial apology because of all the shit he was getting so paypig-kun couldn't reach him and bae inevitably found out when she read it

>>101479679
It was never just against the "scalpers menace". Read those screenshots about total war and how other people getting fucked is good for them. Did this bmvt fake those? They didn't even intend to sell to other fans before shit hit the fan. You are either really naive or arguing in bad faith. Fuck scalpers, but fuck egomaniac discordfags as well.

>>101479935
Holy fucking kek almighty

>>101477746
>>101478935
>>101479136
holy shit this saltedbread guy is a massive narcissistic faggot. My opinion on brats has been irrevocably tanked due to seeing that they allow shitters this obnoxious and attention-seeking in their fanbase
>muh this is an expression of our love for you, oshi!
>muh we're so important and cool, we're gonna wow you with this epic display of love!
>muh we're a heckin toughguy fanbase! ain't nobody comes between us and OUR oshi!
I fucking despise every holo fanbase that talks and acts like this and I can't imagine that their oshi's don't internally cringe inside out when they see this kind of bullshit. All of these self-absorbed self-congratulatory discord faggots are a cancer
>>101479935
kek that's funny, get fucked faggot

>>101479935
A bunch of prominent Twitter Brats have been tap-dancing around the comments and pretending to be ignorant when they're all part of the same clique. It's hilarious to see how two-faced all these discord trannies are.

>>101479935
Are you talking about Yayoi ?

Qrd?

>>101480311
>My opinion on brats has been irrevocably tanked due to seeing that they allow shitters this obnoxious and attention-seeking in their fanbase
She has 1M+ subs, how many of them do you think know about the existence of this faggot or even this discord? You are being just as cringe as him with such dramatic statements

>>101480408
Yeah the very same, the dude was even complicit in it and received some of the mass bought tickets for himself because he didn't get through the queue in time for day 1 and then immediately turned around and started distancing himself from the whole project and talking down to the brrats who helped him get his own fucking ticket just to grandstand in front of Bae

>>101479982
>Read those screenshots about total war and how other people getting fucked is good for them.
All I see is them talking about how the tickets they got will be distributed to the other brats involved in the "war" against scalpers first though? And then if there's anything left after selling it all back to other brats they'll sell to other fanbases. I genuinely don't see the issue here or why people are so furious about the whole situation.

>>101480488
>1M+ dead subs
means nothing. The real indication of a holo fanbase, their size and how they act is in the live stream ccv, who the regulars are in chat and how the chat acts and what they are like on discord and twitter (since this there is often overlap between this and who supachats livestreams0 - not in the abstract numbers of the subscriber count that don't indicate or correlate to anything.

>>101480488
The fandom's reputation isn't based on what her subs know. They will obviously look for ways to justify this retard's behavior.

The problem is how Brats are viewed by everyone else. If you don't think it doesn't matter then explain why Bae addressed it on stream and in a membership post. People are also making clips about it too.

This will blow over in a day or two but it'll always be a stain used by antis every time there's a concert involving Bae.

>>101480528
discordfags are so fucked in the head what the hell man how does this even happen

>>101480528
wow what a scumbag

>>101480668
>DEAD SUBS
fuck off, sister

>>101480528
That guy's a tool and his innocent pussy persona is so obvious. He even admitted to reselling extra tickets in the same tweet where he went to distance himself from the community. It's so blatant it's pathetic.

>>101473940
this is only true because every single other talent that was more popular left lmao
Gura was 3x more popular than biboo even after ghosting her fans for 2 years and she was not a "very enmeshed unityfag", with her fans taking pride in not watching gura collabs with other talents no matter who they were because they only consider gura to be any good
Neither was fauna

>>101480719
if they weren't dead subs then every single holo in EN should be getting Pekora-tier numbers for every stream, retard
dead subs just means that while people stayed subscribed, their viewership wasn't retained and they moved on to something else. Once you realize that most people nowadays don't actually use the subscription page on youtube and don't actually scroll through all the latest uploaded videos from who they are subbed to, but instead just go by their for you page then it all makes sense
most of the people who subbed to Bae over the years like in 2021 or 2022 are not watching her anymore except for the core fanbase. This is literally just a fact and is true of most EN holos.

>>101480528
>>101480768
Kek what a fucking piece of shit I knew there was a reason that guy always creeped me the hell out

>>101480488
tbf these retards managed to buy 450 tickets
That is a substantial portion of her paying fanbase all things considered, not everyone can afford to buy tickets + travel like that
If you have (at the very least) 450 of your top fans acting and agreeing with this its a pretty bad sign especially considering that that's significantly over 10% of her live viewers usually

>>101480788
>not watching gura collabs with other talents no matter who they were because they only consider
What? People didn’t watch gura collabs because gura sucked at collabing. Unless she was with Ame or someone from SNOT, she would be silent and awkward for the majority of collabs.

>>101480528
How the hell did he manage to escape the great brrat cancelling when all the other prominent brrats got ganged up on?

>>101480880
They don't have 450 people, these retards don't know what to do with those "excess" tickets themselves now. And live viewers mean fuck all to anyone outside /#/

>>101480788
>Gura
an anomaly due to her mascot status/being a pop cultural thing in and of herself
most of her viewers were normalfags/people with no interest in hololive at all
>Fauna
her incline actually started during that period in 2022 where most of the rest of EN at the time were absent and not streaming. Her popularity was then retained amongst the broader EN fanbase because, contrary to what you are trying to say, Fauna actually did interact with the rest of EN a lot such as being a regular duo with Mumei and having the whole emo thing with her, being in SNOT, the Twilight crew and their watchalongs, the LOTR watchalongs from the same friend group etc.
The idea that Fauna was some kind of insulated loner who avoided the rest of EN is just literally not true.

>>101480880
They said it was around 70 members who joined in to buy tickets for the pool. There was an 8 ticket purchase limit during the sale.

>>101480985
He didn't attempt to run any defense and just said he was saddened by what he saw. He immediately roached out. Some Brats on twitter actually jumped into the drama trying to explain the situation, which obviously wouldn't work since the first narrative sets the foundation for what everyone thinks.

>>101480985
He is slimey. He knows the optics are bad and shut his mouth.

>>101470872 (OP)
>Buy out all the tickets causing them to sell out faster than they should have
>This cause a bunch of people to panic buy scalper tickets out of fear

They unironically helped scalpers by causing demand to sky rocket within the first couple hours and having people panic buy.

>>101480985
Basically just because he knows how not to leave a trail and immediately pretended he had nothing to do with it which nobody but those who participated can refute. Combine that with his usual persona of le hecking wholesome akasupa spamming Chad and nobody in the community wants to actually push back against him

>>101481130
fucking this. This is gonna be an underappreciated point in this whole debacle
only people who don't realize how economics/market forces work wouldn't realize that this would obviously be the result of doing this. Supply and demand dictates everything and if you artificially reduce the supply of something, the demand will increase.

The scalpers came out of this laughing to the bank while the brats are left looking like a bunch of annoying retards.

>>101470872 (OP)
Last year was mostly nothingburger, because even KFP did not want to support it.

What are really want to know is what fanbase will do the yab next year. We had Myth and Promise, so maybe someone from Advent? I will bet on the dogs.

>>101480627
Yeah, and "other servers a crying, fuck them" is just a playful banter. So you ARE arguing in bad faith, fuck off.

>>101481145
Based Korean using some SEAmonkey discord admin to get good seats and then throwing them under the bus immediately after to save face. Respect.

https://x.com/yayoiken1324/status/1936462586733834392

>>101481260
Fucking kek it's real I hope Bae finds out about this so this fag can get what he deserves for this snake behavior

>>101480985
>great brrat cancelling
Are any brrats getting cancelled? I thought even saltedbread is still safe?

>>101481358
They'll all cancel and distance themselves from the bratcord before letting themselves be crucified on twitter in front of their oshi. No one is going to throw away their personal reputation to defend that discord/admin.

The second Bae discord is already distancing themselves from the bradcord which did the ticket hoarding as they are getting flak from raids. If you're wondering, yes there are 2 fancords for Bae because this community has power hungry clout chasers.

>>101479136
>that Bae response
>"be careful how you act blah blah blah etc... if it gets to an extreme level it can affect the relationships between the talents"
>BETWEEN THE TALENTS
>thefanbasewarsactuallyreallydoaffectthetalentsrelationshipsthemselves.jpg
>mfw
>isreal
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh man
that might be a throwaway comment and will get lost or not really thought about amongst all this but holy KEK that's such a revealing, telling, illuminating statement

Threadly reminder from now on to never forget: (You) really DO affect the relationships between the chuubas themselves. They really ARE beholden to how their own fanbases act lmao
Dramafags WINNING bigly
>>101481260
kek this fucking guy, baaaaaaaaysed

>>101481260
Jesus Christ what a wriggly fucking roach
Behead all two faced paypigs

>>101481542
>if it gets to an extreme level
key words, it likely never will

>>101481542
I take this as "if anybody shits on you, including another talents, I WILL post up." Bae is real af for this. What Sana said pre grad is real shit. They really do care about your ass. You are their pride and joy.

>>101479136
is this true? Qrd?

>>101481810
That's expected honestly, Bae's brats are everything to her and she's fully fucking aware that she's only able to do these things that she loves because of them and their love for her, she's never taken that for granted for even a second

>>101480528
ain't no fucking way

>>101479136
>>101481841
KFP IS THIS REAL? QRD?

>>101481810
>>101481856
>it was actually a coded message, my oshi is actually just saying it means she loves her fans more than her friends and will stick by them no matter what, you don't it SHES PLAYING 5D CHESS, READ BETWEEN THE LINES SHE ACTUALLY CONDONES IT
fucking KEK this cope

>>101470872 (OP)
This is pretty standard idol shit, for the big idol lives in Japan you need to study in advanced what to do during songs because if you do something different than everyone else you're being yakkai and ruining the experience.

>>101473166
trvth nvke

>>101482072
>among all fanbases
>kfp
Of course it's fucking kfp

>>101481542
We've actually known about this since chumbuds ruined Amesame.

>>101482072
>>101482218
>Quick shift into crabs in a bucket tactics discord kittens!

>>101481358
The admin has essentially committed social suicide, he's just completely unreachable now since even the mainstream fans are shitting on him now that the narrative has been set and given to the reddit

>>101482394
I thought he was opening up the tickets to all fans as lottery? They shat on him even after that?

>>101482433
Yes, they still hate him for organizing it in the first place, his retarded war larping, his hubris to brag to bae about what he'd done, and that at the end of the day even if they do open the tickets to everyone it's still a discord exclusive giveaway that fucks over fans who aren't apart of those communities or don't even know what's going on who potentially could have just gotten their tickets organically

Basically nothing he does can right the situation for himself now because the narrative has been firmly set and his first responses were so bad that he just dug himself deeper

>>101478644
They're still scalping at the end of the day, no?

>>101478644
Yeah this whole situation is pretty much impossible to reconcile because bvtm managed to arrange the situation to farm the most drama out of

>>101482507
They could have definitely handled it better. They didn't have to mention the number of tickets they have (people might assume it's 50 at most) and they definitely should not have made it like it was a war with other fanbases.

>>101479136
If I was Bae I'd formally disown him as a fan by name, but I know that won't happen

>>101482507
>>101482394
SaltedBread? More like salted earth

>>101482684
Yes, it's his fault bratcord is run by retarded faggots

>>101481841
>look in the comments to the actual Bae VOD
>same guy there in replies to comments making such claims against other fanbases too
who is this nigga and what's his endgame? which fanbase does he belong to and is what he's saying true? Are the other 'cords doing it too?

>>101482772
Shut the FUCK up Carlos
But also kek

>>101482929
I've seen some fans say they have extra tickets but we're talking 1 or 2 extra, not 450. No idea what they're on about it.

>>101482929
Whataboutism deflection, we see it /here/ every day

>>101481242
>I will bet on the dogs
Nah jailbirds are gonna yab the fuck out

>>101481130
>Buy out all the tickets
They bought about 3% of the tickets

>>101482929
To the saltedfag fanbase probably. Irys discord did not do this, doubt others did too. It would have been dragged out in this shit storm.

>>101470872 (OP)
>All this bullshit for a FUCKING Australian anime girl

>>101471360
>KFP
It was a teammate who organized it.

>>101480627
This. Everyone had a chance to get tickets. If I got a spare ticket and i was with friends on a discord, i'd obviously offer it to them first than some stranger i don't even know.

>>101483358
That is not the case. They purchased way more tickets than their cult. Now they are trying to resell to other to make their money back.

>>101483302
We love Aussies here

they learned nothing

>>101482072
People bought too much because of how bad the presale was, so we ended up with some extras. That's all.

>>101484250
>pulled garbage from the slop-through of the internet
Sure but those screenshots were real and from their discord

>>101484250
>publicly venting about a thing that has public opinion split so random people can screencap you to farm drama

retards

>>101471282
>americans join a fandom
>turns into segregation and civil war
once again, EN was a mistake.

>>101484481
Japs just have more awareness and opsec because they consider the optics. They're don't behave any differently. JPT is full of people talking in code while working to shift narratives and frame situations in a positive light.
These brat discordfags are just fucking stupid for doing it out in the open.

Note the hordes of retards claiming "everyone does it" but no one can scrape together one example.

>>101479935
ISRAEL
>ISRAEL
ISRAEL
>ISRAEL
What a fucking roach

>>101482604
>at higher prices
>to make a small profit
Given how they claim to not be making any profit (if not even losing money), then it's not scalping. It's more like some sort of reverse group buying.

>>101470872 (OP)
pathetic, any fan worth their salt would be canvassing the people sitting next to them to rep their oshi's color, making that whole damn venue orange should be their dream. imagine "promoting" your oshi and not screaming at the top of your lungs "she's the best!"

>>101483278
Nerissa discord did do a group buy but was smaller and noone said much about it

>>101485552
it's more like a cartel, they're restricting the competition for all the prime seats and selling all the leftover junk

>>101484922
Discordfags...

>>101484250
How? Bae literally came out and called them out on this shit

If you're a Brat you'd better be ready for the heat cause it's on sight with you fuckers now
t. KFP

>>101488317
The brrat / kfp post-concert orgy is gonna be real spicy this year

>>101471282
I've not really been paying attention. Wtf has been going on? All I know is that the tickets were released, sold out immediately and that there's the usual scalper issue. Then there's some drama surrounding a Bae spergout memba post dump.
Qrd on what I'm missing please?
Were brats the scalpers?

>>101489104
Bae discordfags did a massive buyout of 450+ tickets. They are reselling these tickets with a priority list and shit on ame, gura, fanua fanbases.
In addition, these faggots thought it was a good idea and SC bae about their "great success"

>>101489104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-UI8vlVqzA

tl;dw
To "fight the scalpers", coordinated discord faggots bought 450 concert tickets and planned to distribute them with priority to other discord brats over other girls fanbases. There was also a comment about how at least they don't have to compete with the fans of graduated talents this year.

The ringleader then proceeds to out themselves with a superchat to Bae thinking she would be proud of them. Bae learning about this mid-stream is in shambles, and no lessons were learned on the discordfags part.

>>101478621
Of course he's brown.

>>101488094
It's a learning disability. They are literally, and I mean literally, retarded.

>>101489513
>>101489605
Wow. How shitty. I'm glad I've avoided all discord trooney. The only one I've ever joined is a Meru one and that's just a saddness circlejerk. Never cared for Bae, her fans seem like shits too.

Blatant niji falseflag

>>101489605
This is so embarrassing

>>101491372
It's true. And there are so many stages where a reasonable person would have stopped, but here, they just kept plowing through.
It's definitely a huge blow to brat-kind. I fear that achieving respectability will never be possible again after this.

>>101470872 (OP)
Gee, idk, one was a lightstick idea and the other was actually buying 450 fucking tickets when it was already hard enough for people trying to buy them. Wasn't even kfp organized iirc, the guy in the discord screenshots turned out to be a teamate

Brats were always subhuman scum and easily the brownest fanbase

>>101491639
>brownest fanbase
well...

>>101491670
asian eyes are so ugly

>>101470872 (OP)
First of all, this was made by a teamate and you can see he gave Ame the smallest part & retracted even before Ame could say anything.
Brat prioritizes their OWN ME ME ME discord instead & gloat even after Bae called them a retard.
See the difference?

>>101479935
>They can't even stick together through this and all throw each other under the bus immediately
Nice real stand up act here

>>101492095
So true, Amelia Watson died on the Cross for our Sins so we would be Forgiven
Thus we should Forgive the Brats their Transgression, for Our Savior Amelia Watson died for their sake

>>101492095
Very honest and genuine post

>>101478644
>but muh dramafag
what these fags did was retarded and they deserve to be publicly shit on. there are alot of holofan discords doing shit like this and I look forward to more discord leaks

>>101495625
>leaks
They're all public discords so its open information. Other discords just don't have spergs running the show and think before they type.

>>101484250
>>101484922
JESAS

>>101470872 (OP)
>brrats deflecting to KFP again
Why are they like this?

>>101496934
It's the REAL all out war.

>>101470872 (OP)
>Asking people to change the color of their penlight for one song is just as bad as organizing to fuck people out of getting tickets and celebrating it AND celebrating graduations of other talents because it lowers the competition
You are an actual retard, like you should have to wear a bell or something so people know you're coming

>>101495625
Reminder that they wouldn't have done this if scalpers didn't exist. What have YOU done against scalping today?

you are retarded if you believe that you should require social media to buy tickets for a concert to prove that you are a fan.

>>101497159
Amusing joke.
But in actual seriousness, they might not have done specifically this, but they surely would have done something else stupid. Just think of how many stupid things they actually did in a row:
-Went through with the "let's fight scalping by...scalping!" plan
-Bought way more tickets than they needed or actually knew what to do with
-Told everyone that they were doing it which only antagonized other fanbases further
-Treated the whole thing like a brilliant master plan from sperglord superheroes
-And to top it all off, bragged about it personally to Bae, forcing her to confront the whole issue mid-stream
It's like a masterclass in how to be a dumbass. With any luck, their reputations will be so ruined they'll have to crawl into a hole and never show their faces again.

>>101497464
>Went through with the "let's fight scalping by...scalping!" plan
Reminder that scalping is specifically buying things to create scarcity and later resell at a higher price for profit. Because their intent was reselling the tickets to other brats and then to all other fans at the same price, thus gaining no financial profit at all, it wasn't scalping.

>>101497637
cope harder

>>101497637
>financial profit
They are profitting by
a) securing tickets for themselves inside their group
b) getting to judge who they sell tickets to
c) attention and stroking their ego

>>101497637
Fuck Bae for not appreciating her fans!

>>101497668
>>101497704
>>101497799
Sorry damage control squad, what they did was a bit of a dick move indeed but you can't just change the meaning of words whenever you feel like it.

>>101498012
True, they didn't commit scalping because that would be the act of cutting or tearing a part of the human scalp, with hair attached, from the head, and generally occurred in warfare with the scalp being a trophy.

>>101497637
They still artificially increased the scarcity therefore helping the scalpers they are supposedly fighting against. A brilliant plan indeed.

>>101497637
any kind of resale of tickets is scalping
Even if they arent selling them for profit directly they were still trying to benefit from clout, increased traffic etc
the kind of discord mod faggots who'd cum themselves to death over getting to deny tickets to people they personally didnt like

>>101498478
It's not one or the other, it requires everything to count as scalping.

"We did it, Patrick! We saved the city!"

>>101470872 (OP)
KEK how embarrassing

>>101498585
Fine. Saltbreading. They saltbreaded the tickets, and now everyone hates them. Satisfied?

>>101497637
>scalping is specifically buying things to create scarcity and later resell at a higher price for profit
Scalpers don't always sell things at higher price. They often sell things at lower price before the concert start, so they don't end up with bunch of useless papers.
And why should I trust random jerks with my money?

>>101498766
Kek, this should be the term. Immortalize the faggotry.

>>101498766
Holy shit. Can't believe Bae's fans are saltbreading tickets.

>Shitting on graduated talents/fans
QRD?

This would have been avoided if they coordinated the mass buyout with other fan discord. Then pool all the tickets and do a raffle-style sale for everyone. Scalpers are the only enemies here.

>>101499827
They could've avoided a lot by just being mature and not talking shit about other talents and fans during their chuuni bullshit. It painted the whole situation in a negative tone. Otherwise people would just be arguing in the grey area about whether it's good or bad to coordinate group purchases. This idea that groups will act with malice and go against holounity has completely shit up the conversation.

>>101500004
>>101499814

>>101499827
It would still be limited to discord tranny clique though. Scalpers aren't the only enemies here.

>>101499827
>Scalpers are the only enemies here.
True. Just be aware that the discord troons decided that the best bethod to fight scalping is with their own, "benevolent" scalping. They are just as much of the enemy of the fans.

>>101499814
They said they were glad they were gone so they didnt have to compete with chumbuds,saplings, hoomans etc for tickets
That combined with them setting up a priority list of who to sell tickets to and putting other hololive fans last just made them seem like totally selfish cunts

>>101500258
Were the screencaps posted itt and I missed them? I'd like to see exactly what they said that made Bae so uncomfortable. I feel for the poor girl.

>>101500546
>>101479996

>>101500992
Much obliged anon
It was somehow even more cancerous than I expected holy shit

kek the braapcord is getting clippers to private videos

meanwhile the seamonkey who started all this still hasnt put out a public apology on twitter or stepped down from his position

considering all the leaked screenshots of their secret channels and conversations today they should just close the whole discord down and fuck off. theyll forever be a stain if they continue

To be honest the only wrong move is that the retard in charge bragged on stream sending that SC. Never breakcontainment, lads.

>>101501452
It wouldn't have mattered. The only reason she hadn't seen it before the super is because she hadn't gone on twitter yet for the day. That shit was blowing up with everyone across all circles talking about it. Especially since it showed them shit talking the graduated talents. All the cumbuds were in there wanting the discord retards to be strung up.

>>101501607
Funny how from all of their shit that's what struck the nerve. Goes to show most of the community is petulant manchildren, not just those discordfags.

>>101501803
>"rightly shitting on discordfags makes you a petulant manchild"
>"also watch as I shit on both discordfags and twitterfags"
It wouldn't have been the chumbuds' place to get upset and act like victims over the ticket hoarding part because their oshi isn't even in this concert anyway. Why bitch about them doing something that actually makes sense instead?

>Don't you think people complaining about people doing a shitty thing are just as bad as people doing the shitty thing?
>I am brown and this is deep

>>101502211
Was this meant for >>101501803 or for >>101502064? Serious question, I could see someone applying this criticism to either or both.

>>101479679
Fuck Off SaltedFaggot

>>101502064
>It wouldn't have been the chumbuds' place to get upset and act like victims over the ticket hoarding part
But they have the burning need to get upset and act like victims anyway so they latched onto a retarded catalog level joke/remark instead. That's what I'm talking about. Absolute kindergarten.

>>101502612
anon clearly you've spent too much time on 4chan if you think your average twitter sperg is capable of brushing off a joke
theres a reason brownvtm makes a living off of this website

>>101471282
lmao I guess the Kiara vs Bae really originate from brrats vs kfps

how long is Ao's "break" anyway

>>101503549
Forever, there's no fixing what's wrong with it and it should never have been hired

Cover is laughing at all of us. They choose an under-capacity venue in a shitty city and then watch the fanbases tear each other apart for tickets.

6,000 capacity is GRIM work.

Did you rike it?

>>101503878
>under-capacity venue
Tickets are still available at bratcord
>Did you rike it?
It was indeed quite entertaining to observe Holounity in action. All for one.

>>101504169
>holounity

kekaroo

imagine needing to create a discord account and dealing with all these sociopaths just to get a concert ticket
was never a fan of these people declaring themselves king of the fanbases they represent, they're literally bringing back the original meaning of the word fanatic

>>101504240
>what's sarcasm?

>>101504274
Just pay the scalper prices and stfu then, there are plenty available for sale.

>>101504274
You don't already have a discord account? Why is a weirdo like you even trying to watch a show for vtuber fans in first place?

>>101504342
>disagreeing with the discord circlejerk means I support scalpers
Fuck you, you disingenuous fuck

>>101504342
>Suck our cock or pay double. We're not scalpers btw.
Fuck scalpers, fuck saltbreaders

>>101504369
I'm not required to have a discord account to be a vtuber fan, fuck off

>>101504274
>I see you made a tweet saying you didnt like ghostbusters 2016 9 years ago, we cant be giving tickets to woman hating monsters like you now can we?

>>101504370
Don't care, got mine. Fuck you lol.

>>101504383
>someone who's unsociable enough to refuse to make an account in the biggest chat program these days pretending that he's interested in a social activity like watching a vtuber concert
lmao

>>101504456
sounds like projection to me

>>101504274
Creating a Discord account isn't difficult, unless you have some kind of ethical issue with the platform.

>>101504500
>unless you have some kind of ethical issue with the platform.
did you not read my post?
the several screenshots of discord conversations from holo fanbase servers I see everywhere aren't really doing anything to help the disgusting reputation discord users have

>>101504545
Anon, I agree in general, but if you are disgusted by discord users you should avoid the concert in the first place. It's going to be a hotbed.

>>101504322
holocope

>>101504627
have you never been to a concert by yourself before?
you can just choose not to interact with other people, that's acceptable

>>101504637
They are still going to be all around you. Being surrounded by disgusting fanatics for a few hours doesn't sound like a fun experience.

>>101504725
despite hoarding a lot of the tickets, I think you're overestimating how many concert-goers are part of these discord circlejerks

>>101504389
There at least one server specifically for trading, not affiliated with any fanbase in particular. They don't give a fuck, it's just a marketplace.

there is a difference selling your own ticket and 450 tickets

>>101504240
It's an all out war!

>>101503549
Until Marine runs out of money.

What did KFP do exactly? I tune out out the EN concert season usually.

>>101503878
Still better than the fes

>>101483302
I want to be FUCKING that Australian anime girl desu

>>101505918
Buy a ticket

>>101505969
I have two but the way Mori describes Bae's body is pretty hot.

I think brrats and more specifically saltedbread should be executed