Thread 101486691

Phase is confirmed bigger than VShojo in the NA market. They're really growing.

Source: My friend said.

>con literally is paid by phase
>phase is shilled everywhere because of it

>>101486691 (OP)
Don't care, I ain't watching Pippa

I feel like there's another corpo that foreigner-kun is neglecting to mention. Not that I watch any of them.

>please watch phase they're being shilled in a event sponsored by phase
No thanks I dont support doxfags

>>101486691 (OP)
>No one even thought to ask about NijiEN.

>>101486978
NijiEN is even deader in the west, not even worth mentioning

>>101486691 (OP)
>I asked my friend
>he didn't know
>probably

Guys I think Vallure is the second strongest agency and Globie is third.

>>101486691 (OP)
>0.6%

>>101486691 (OP)
is he judging the size of their popularity based on the physical size of their booths?

>>101486691 (OP)
I dont really care if this is true or not. I just want more merch of my wife clio.

>>101487359
Smart hag sex

>>101486691 (OP)
This is from a Japanese Holo fan visiting burgerland

>>101487213
This guy and OP are as good of a source as each other.

>>101487460
>mass shootings and lootings
100% of those are left wing, retard

>>101487892
Ashley Babbit is now 4 years free of conspiracy theories.

>>101486691 (OP)
Vshojo's fanbase are all a bunch of normies who just see them as twitch streamers with moving PNGs. They don't have much knowledge of vtubing itself.

>>101486691 (OP)
If you're gonna use a random Twitterfag's friend as proof of this, I'm gonna use this as proof of the opposite

>>101488257
>make hime cushions for some reason
>nobody buys them
>cry on twitter
>hime now offers to buy them

>>101487892
Not in Norway and New Zealand.

>>101486691 (OP)
Phaseretards are really delusional, ironmouse gets more viewers than your entire corpo combined

>>101488306
That Hitsu person is a professional twitter crybaby she also bait Raora and Biboo into promoting her failed campaign

>>101488121
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, that’s a phasecuck making that claim

>>101486817
lmao

>>101486691 (OP)
At the rate cover is shooting itself in the foot, phase will surpass holo en in no time

>>101488707
And thus begins the age of Phase ConDomination

>>101488707
With what? All of your 3views and a handful that barely get 1k? Delusional retard

>>101486691 (OP)
>Some phasefag on Twitter said that Phase is more popular than Vshoujo and Niji
And other retarded things phasecucks actually believe

>>101486691 (OP)
>Confirmed
>Some random ass tweet
>My friend said
Mouse alone solos their entire corpo anon and that circle graph that kept getting used by the catalog even proved it.

>>101488877
Its actually from a Japanese holo fan who is visiting America, that's why it has the translation rating

>>101489009
So it's LARP, got it

>>101486691 (OP)
>I asked my friend
Amazing sources here bros

>>101486691 (OP)
there's at least 3 or 4 different vshojos that alone are bigger or close to everyone in phase combined, how are phasefags so delusional?

What is this even based on? Your friend said a thing? The fact that they bought a booth and sponsored a convention? Vibes?

>>101489199
Look at those cardboard standees! They've hit the big time!

>>101486927
>>101486984
Phase antis can't decide whether offkai hates phase and sakana is retarded for still supporting them, or offkai favors phase and gives them special privelege.

If you're going to just spout whatever nonsense you imagine, at least stick to one story.

>>101486691 (OP)
Behold the power of the second most popular corpo according to this retard

>>101486691 (OP)
Are Phasecucks really all that delusional? Even their botted chuubas can’t match mousey in popularity or numbers

>>101486691 (OP)
Make no mistake, this isn't because phase grew. This happened because vshojo fell off hard

>>101488856
Clio gets 4-6K often nowadays

>>101490691
Come on anon no one believes that

>>101490656
Proof?

>>101490809
his friend told him and sent him pictures of an unrelated event.

>>101490691
>Clio has thousands of viewers
>has about the 20th biggest mindshare in Phase
weird

>>101490691
isn't that more than what mouse is getting lately with bots included

>>101486691 (OP)
therefore, NA loves being cucked

>>101490503
>Phase antis can't decide whether offkai hates phase
anon I think you got it mixed up
the phase fans apparently hate offkai.
Either way it's cool that the fish is at least promoting his girls. He's doing a good job as far as that goes.

It really is a shame the loud, awful part of the fanbase is even there, since the girls and corpo seem fine, yabbit aside.

>>101490994
Mouse had 9k last stream

>>101486691 (OP)
I watch Airi and Sleepy and this is delusional. If Phase is actually second then the EN market is in more dire straits than anything.

>>101490691
esl-kun the "K" you used actually means thousand, not hundred.

Oh no phasebros our delusional narrative is crumbling
>>101491527

>>101491230
I know what I said. Phase found themselves a hidden gem with her

>>101492052
Is she a hidden gem or is there just 4k civ players who would watch anyone playing thier slopgames.

>>101492052
she is what she is. she will likely never be presented as a pillar of phase

>>101492052
>her

>>101492052
>views keep randomly switching from 1k+ to 6k+
You can't possibly be this retarded anon

>>101492052
Let’s tell the truth for once
These are the current phase numbers
Airi 560 viewers
Shiina 1.1k viewers
Lori 84 viewers
Ember 588 viewers
NASA 122 viewers
Clio 1.4k viewers
Michiru 118 viewers
Dizzy 497 viewers

These are not exactly dominating numbers but it’s actually really pathetic

>>101492052
Botted gem*

>>101492450
Lori is in grooming range, might try my luck.

>>101486691 (OP)
Gee I wonder why OP cropped out the account name and the metrics

>>101492052
...Was she hidden?
Her numbers were bigger than most phase members even before joining.

>>101492052
Sure they did

>>101492747
She's getting botted too?

>>101492450
once again pippa is hard carrying this entire company

>>101492789
Yep

>>101492052
>views cut in half if she's doing anything that isn't a 4X game

>>101492199
Clio is her own thing.
Invaders will always be Lumi's branch so long as she is there, no matter if she is #3 or #7 in numbers.
and Phase, in general, will always be an EN Gen1 company and those 4 have a dynamic where all of them are featured in ways regardless of numbers.

Anon almost fooled me into thinking clio must have something interesting about her, glad I waited 10 mins to see the truth before I subjected myself to whatever the fuck slop she plays next

>>101486691 (OP)
Who cares about second place when the difference between first and second is monumental?

>>101493262
nimi and dooby vs all of hololive and even then hololive needed 3k scalper and 450 brat tickets to be bought just to sell out

>>101492613
Pronouned E-ori anon. Good luck tho

>>101490503
You realize that the staff at the con can hate the corpo and the talents while also having a financial obligation to promote them, right?

>>101493330
>All of Hololive
The concert on the left isn't the AFO NY concert, though

>>101493515
thanks anon, I knew it was pronounced iori just didn't know if for some reason spelt Lori

>>101493262
I love everytime images like these are poted. Proves hololive fans are no different then nijisanji fans. Probably worse. Because at least most nijis move to twitch, so they force you to use a site you might hate. Literally just a different youtube channel for ex holos.

>>101493330
Uh huh, retard only thought holo have 1 concert.

>>101492895
NTA but it's sad.
Even before joining she was a consistent mid-high 3view.
Now her numbers are being inflated by these bots for no reason. I wonder who's targeting her. Probably someone in /#/.

>>101493715
Someone really needs to make a latam version of 4chan.

>>101492747
>3 stages botting

>>101492995
Invaders basically run Phase now

>>101492618
I saw the original tweet hours ago and it was from a Jap who likes Mori

>>101493636
it has Nene who is the best JP, Ollie who's the only ID that exists and irys the best EN in the picture so it's all of holo

>>101493769
the leader of Invaders had to bum her way into the gen1 concert because invaders arent getting that any time soon

Shut up phasecucks you only have 0.6% lol

>>101493738
Most likely the same fag who has been botting random people, Holos, Nijis, Phase, Peo, Valkyrae, and probably others I'm forgetting

>>101486691 (OP)
How in the fuck did these faggots ended up outniggering nijinigs? just fuck off already

>no niji mentioned in this thread so far
>b-but it's niji fault
Phasecucks are desperate

>>101493842
the only thing Invaders run is a warehouse where they literally are packing merch

>>101494286
Well they kinda have to after the phase fans broke into the truck and stole the last batch.

>>101492052
I like how for the #ad the viewbot legally has to be turned off which is why shes a 3view there which is her actual numbers

>>101493738
Shes been doing this since after her /asp/ days

>>101494983
I don't think people not wanting to watch some Wakanda garbage is proof of anything
Looking at her streams now, the twitch isn't botted and the youtube chat does move 2-3x as fast, it seems real enough

What does Vshojo have these days?

>>101495738
A scammer going boohoo I'm "sick" please pity me gib emoney pls huehuehue

>>101495972
Pippa?

>>101495738
ironmouse for "what new model does she have now" and what ever cdawg is doing and other orbiters.
michi for "holy shit this bitch is dumb" if you believe it.
Henya is fun.
others are just forgettable.

>>101496016
Stop neglecting your daughter,puta

>>101496797
huh?

>>101493330
>but scalpers and brat discord
still would have been sold out in a day without them

>>101493617
[italics]I[/italics] know that. I am rational person. The antis, however, have no sense of reason and can't form a coherent narrative. Trolling can be entertaining for both the troll and the trollee if done properly, but that is asking too much of the SEAmonkeys who make hating phase connect their entire personality .

>>101486691 (OP)
I'm pretty sure phase is going to lose 90% of their audience once Trump decides to draft and send them off to fight a war somewhere. It doesn't even have to be Iran, we're not even a year in. Let's see where this rollercoaster takes them.

>>101492747
>streams for 12 hours starting at prime time
>catches literally every single raid
>most people who can't handle it then leave her stream on as they sleep
>this simple strategy confuses and bewilders the numberfags

>>101498078
7hrs of pure incline is not normal not even on twitch. People fucking leave, get bored and stuff fluctuates

>>101498152
>7hrs of pure incline is not normal not even on twitch.
No, this actually is pretty normal for certain streamers on twitch specifically.

>>101498238
It really isn’t but keep on coping how she suddenly inclined x7 worth of her numbers from one stream to the next. Also all of Phases event streams still cap out at sub 5k ccv

>>101498308
Not even talking about clio, anon. Clio's clearly being botted right now, but the trend itself is something that exists.

>>101493738
The new bots are targeting tens, hundreds of vtubers. It's no longer possible for /#/ to be doing it, it's a group with lots of money or an out-of-control botfarm or both (the prevailing theory)

>>101494063
>Valkyrae
What? lmao. Why?

>>101489009
You will never be japaanese

>>101486691 (OP)
Hololive civil war will happen on June 28th. Nerissa and Mori atleast took Vshojo's side.

>>101492450
Even Vichiban and 3AM is bigger than that.

>>101486691 (OP)
Twitch must bot the fuck out of their CCV if that is true.

>>101486691 (OP)
>Vshoujo scammed another bunch of 2views with fake auditions and sold their personal data
>Phase is preparing their own convention
It's clear as day

>>101499791
What the hell is going on these days, man...

>>101500233
They never sold personal data gained from auditions, retarded phaseshill.

>>101493738
Phasefags are botting her

>>101492613
You can have her. More Da Michi for me

>>101488257
Lol
Lmao

>>101486691 (OP)
This has to be one of the most retarded things I have ever read on here.

>>101492052
The Twitch streamer Clio who built a community on Twitch from low 3view to consistent 1-1.5k is instantly having ~4-5k viewers on Youtube.

DYRBI

>>101486691 (OP)
You must not be very academically gifted, are you?

>>101488424
leeching from more popular men

>>101503396
raids exist
and people from # buy the bots lmao

>>101488393
>Norway
Wtf I though Norway was a white country

>>101492613
shes NTR coded anon

>>101492052
https://x.com/ClioAite/status/1606215208325640192

>>101503701
errr phasechads??

>>101503701
Rie has taught her well

>>101503701
hahaha what the fuck

>>101503701
every fucking time with phase jesus

>>101503701
NO NO NO
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY "I HATE THIS FAN ART"!

>>101503701
Nice butthole(s)!

>>101503701
Phasecucks...

clio is a transgender lesbian
keep your cuck fantasy to your self

>>101492747
>>101492789
>>101492895
I would think numbercucks like you would at least understand the concept of raids.

>>101503701
>philipines flag in the artist's name
she really was phase material

>>101492052
How can she stream for like 6+ hours for close to 5k CCV and her vods still have less than 20k views?

>>101503701
what the fuck

>>101505778
any vtuber with more ccv than likes is botted

>>101503701
hahahahaahahaha

>>101503701
I can see why she's popular among phasecucks.

>>101505952
Damn...

>>101505275
Nta but the problem in that clearly isn't the raid lol

>>101505952
LOL
it just doesn't stop...

>>101505952
Pozzconnect...

>>101503683
FUCK there goes 6 hours of work, that bitch can stay irrelevant then.

>>101505952
Does sakana only hire bitches that
answer BLACKED as their favourite tag?

>>101505952
I was wondering why Phasefags were shilling her so hard despite her massive voice debuff. So that's why...

>>101486691 (OP)
>according to my >friend

>>101492613
You know the "gomenne senpai" thing? She's the one who did it.

>>101486691 (OP)
>0.6%
>Is so small that phaseshills have to do a fake tweet in japanese, translate it to english and say "my phase fan friend told me phase is YUUUUGE"
LMAO they weren't kidding with the phaseshill nickname

From a convention presence standpoint Phase is probably bigger than Vshojo, because Vshojo doesn't do fucking anything for their fans at cons really outside a panel or two. It's basically if the talent wants to do something it happens, but the company does the bare minimum

>>101508119
paying off a small con to promote your 3view org =/= making you the bigger corpo

vshojo doesn't bother promoting at offkai since they kept continously fucking up events that the talents paid for so they save everything else for big cons like AX, and judging by phase literally getting their truck robbed im guessing offkai hasn't fixed their problems

>>101503701
Fuck's sake

henyafags...

>>101508243
>small con
Phase has been to all conventions. They might be at the most North American conventions of any vtuber agency. yes, including hololive.

>>101486691 (OP)
Shitshojo is literally just Ironrat. All the other relevant people already left.

>>101509981
If that's the standard then shitconnect has no relevant people at all.

bump for phasecucks

>>101509940
They weren't at AX last year and probably can't afford a space this year either

>>101512451
They were too busy planning for ANYC and did a main stage 3D concert, something Ironlung will likely never do

i only watch henya sometimes these days, vshojo was better when nyanners was there

>>101512505
the one phase begged and paid mint to help save but still couldn't sell out and pippa complained was a waste of money and ended on a loss? yeah what a shame kek

>>101512704
>paid mint
they all got paid, anon. it's a job. you think vtubers do this for free?

>>101512795
Proof?

>>101486927
The hotel had Vshojo partnered keycards. All corpos pay bag for shilling.

>>101486691 (OP)
Well, duh. Vwhorejo fans are mostly from sea and south america

>>101513356
They're 80% NA + Canada.

>>101489199
Whatever happened to the journalistic standards of 4chan?

Phase allegedly had the biggest booth at offkai

>>101486691 (OP)
Okay

>>101503701
>>101505952
What in the world...
No wonder they're so mad today. If my oshi hit me with this I'd kill myself

>>101486691 (OP)
Phase has better branding. Vshojo feels more like a hodgepodge of different people without a core identity. With Phase, you know what you're getting (the cuck friend experience).

>>101486691 (OP)
>t.

>>101519396
Phase brand is Pippa and everyone else is a side show. Vshojo brand is Ironmouse. Your brand is decided by the biggest talents.

>>101513629
everything about this photo makes me mad

>Go to a bunch of cons all over the US and Canada consistently
>People who might casually watch you see you a lot and start to get curious and watch you
Gee, I wonder how they've grown.

>>101523094
>Phase brand is Pippa
they are working to change that perception. if you went to Offkai, they didn't do a lot of promoting Pippa with their signage + the big main stage concert was essentially the Uruka, Lia and Lumi show Pippa was in it for 3 minutes completely in the background

>>101486691 (OP)
>according to my friend

cuck connect won

>>101513356
true

>>101505952
Now i know why they hire her, she have the same taste as phase.

>>101513629
Fit all stereotype of phase, just need to add a rifle with pippa name next time.

>>101528757
why is it always an ESL

>>101523320
That perception already changed, although she's still the leader in revenue

Holocucks your response?
https://youtube.com/shorts/A3RF8h9Vm4I?si=pQR3F2Rt3xmhFOau

>>101486691 (OP)
Phase are genuine weebs and nerdy weirdos
Vshojo are all ironic weebs and grifters

>>101505952
>>101503701
Now wonder why phasecucks shill this dude so much

>>101533691
t. phasecuck trying to save face

>>101534050
Nah, I'm a holochad.

>>101534150
No you aren't. At best you are a hybrid.

>>101534150
>projecting to holo
be more subtle phasecucks

>>101506023
Anon these are actual raids if you look it up on the VOD

>>101503701
>Page doesn't exist anymore
Clio is /here/

>>101532891
this is what you get when adopted to a family with a sister who has a serpent tongue
everyone should die

>>101535533
Did her manager tell her to delete that?

>>101503701
>https://x.com/ClioAite/status/1606215208325640192
so this means clio joins the club of BBC lovers like lumi because why else you would hide the fact that you liked a black man fucking your model art?

>>101486691 (OP)
Mouse's ego prevents Vshojo hiring any more vtubers when they should have twice the number of people under them by now.
Melody is spineless and bends to mouse's whims, and any time Gunrun brings up auditions Mouse threatens to quit and destroy the Vshojo brand.

Zen is only permitted to have orbiters so long as they have nothing to do with Mouse.

>>101536065
>it came to me in a dream

>>101486691 (OP)
>phase vs vshojo
I hate both equally and I hope they annihilate each other.

>>101536065
>Mouse's ego prevents Vshojo hiring any more vtubers when they should have twice the number of people under them by now.
>Melody is spineless and bends to mouse's whims, and any time Gunrun brings up auditions Mouse threatens to quit and destroy the Vshojo brand.

Do you have a newsletter where I can follow your latest fever dreams?

Why should they have twice the number of people there by now? They're clearly very cautious about trying to grow too fast, which makes sense when you're a smaller operation that isn't taking 50% of everything your talent makes and doesn't own the rights to their IP. Small corps have dropped like flies in the last couple of years, in part from trying to do too much too fast with no actual sound business plan.

>Zen is only permitted to have orbiters so long as they have nothing to do with Mouse.

Zen has several orbiters who not only hang out with Mouse, but are some of Zen's most frequent collab partners: Heavenly, Froggy, Ari, Saiiren, etc.

>>101503701
>Deleted
Took her until this very thread to finally notice? that twitter post has been posted around here for weeks now lol.

>>101537371
>he only nuked it now
KWABOOTY

>>101537371
Wtf he's here.

>>101513705
>majority of the con's attendance is the 0.6%
>numerous twitter posts complaining about the smell
oh nononononono

>>101487892
Right wing terrorism confirmed then.
Kinda impressive that Phase is the only fanbase with an attempted mass shooter, you'd think Niji would have had someone snap first.

>>101541123
Women are rarely involved in mass shootings.

>>101486691 (OP)
Is there a list of vtubers that have declined to join the company?

>>101541540
the phaseGOD who tried to shoot those people was a woman of sorts kind of maybe in some aspects perhaps in certain value systems

>>101503701
>>101537371
I didn't see the post, what was it?
Also does this mean she's lurking this thread?

>>101537371
Did some one archive it?

>>101535021
I have it on good authority there are no actual Phase fans, so everybody on the Catalog is a Holofan

>>101546282
Her praising art of herself getting blacked.
It was made in 2022, so it isn't even one of those things the IMschizo makes out of spite using AI.

>>101543226
He was a femboy, which is pretty standard among the rightoid incels.

>>101546282
Just thanking an artist for porn with "brown hentai man". When you're small you don't get much art, so you thank people for any that gets made.