Why did Hololive cede the tomboy chuuba market to the liggers? - /vt/ (#101489196) [Archived: 851 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:56:14 AM No.101489196
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:58:43 AM No.101489290
>>101489196 (OP)
Subaru controls 99% of the market
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:02:56 AM No.101489442
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>>101489196 (OP)
They know better than to challenge the niche's reigning queen.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:13:12 AM No.101489807
>>101489442
Hah! good one anon.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:24:27 AM No.101490278
>>101489196 (OP)
Tomboy's aren't actually that popular in Japan.
Not even with girls.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:53:41 AM No.101491441
>>101489196 (OP)
Aren't the only two in existence Shuba and the choco horse girl?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:55:14 AM No.101491492
>>101489196 (OP)
mori? gg? kronii?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:56:42 AM No.101491531
>>101491492
>Cringe
>Lol lmao even
>the doomer lez
No man...no.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:57:04 AM No.101491544
>>101489196 (OP)
Tomboys don't seem to be a thing in japan. Or at least they're not nearly as popular.
Hell, does Subaru even count anymore? She's been completely otakufied or something by now.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:57:43 AM No.101491561
>>101491492
GG is the closest on the EN side but she's not a tomboy per se. Subaru owns the JP tomboy market as said above
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:06:56 AM No.101491902
>>101489196 (OP)
>>101489442
keep your degenerate niche of butch troons and filthy malecollabing whores to yourself. The denizens of the walled garden would rather die than have to acknowledge those "people".
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:08:36 AM No.101491974
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>>101491902
You are the faggot.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:09:23 AM No.101492009
>>101491561
Subaru is the most feminine hololive talent for a long time
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:10:24 AM No.101492054
>>101491492
Kronii tits are too big not to mention her recent feminisation
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:12:15 AM No.101492133
>>101491492
All feminized. There's nothing tomboy about them anymore. Gigi is just louder.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:16:42 AM No.101492315
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>>101491492
I don't know enough about gg to say anything, but Kronii and Mori started off trying to be tomboys but eventually sort of got forced back into the whole idol girly girl fields.
I think Japan treats Mori as a tomboy considering her perception over there is as the cool rapper reaper, but anyone who understands her just sees her as a cute dork.

Thinking about it now, I think the closest thing HoloEN has to a tomboy (barring GG who I know nothing about) would be Shiori. Girl's STEM as hell, loves going outside and fucking around with nature, and owns all kinds of shit that'd make girly girls freak out like her microscopic parasite collection.
She's not much of a jock or anything, but the only thing girly about her is her fashion tastes. Even moreso now that she's openly palling around with the bros.

In the end though they're nothing compared to the indies who don't have to worry about fitting the idol mold.
Doki is the obvious best example. She's the closest thing to a brotuber that exists despite not being a dude. She's terrible at all the usual female vtuber things like singing, dancing, asmr, fashion, etc. Plays almost exclusively male-dominated games like shooters, hangs out with guys like it's nothing, does her best to minimize sex appeal with her branding (though that drives her fans even crazier about her), and even has quite a few stories from when she used to be a jock.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:27:50 AM No.101492770
>>101489196 (OP)
How are you defining tomboy anyway?
If you're only talking about appearances then yeah it's criminal, Hololive not having a token tomboy
But a lot of them act the part
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:38:33 AM No.101493171
>>101492315
Gigi has the sporty clothing under her giant hoodie (spats/tanktop) and likes winning crane game prizes for Cece, but that's about where it ends. she's girly, loves cute stuff like Chiikawa, and is a massive fujoshi to boot.
she's been big on the Idol Route ever since lovelive started apparently, too
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:45:11 AM No.101495564
>>101491902
Lmao holoseethe. Fuck off to r/holotower
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:47:01 AM No.101495623
>>101491441
Mmmmm, chocolate horse girl... delicious
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:50:24 AM No.101495739
>>101489196 (OP)
Cede? How many tomboys have ever applied to Hololive in the first place, apart from Subaru?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:54:37 AM No.101495874
>>101489442
Thatโ€™s not a tomboy, thatโ€™s a male
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:57:38 AM No.101495982
>>101489196 (OP)
blackrock thinks tomboys are offensive and would rather just hire a dude pretending to be a girl who is into general guy stuff.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:00:45 AM No.101496075
>>101489442
Mmm yeah bro sure you can keep that thing
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:01:26 AM No.101496095
>>101495982
they did hire kronii
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:43:58 AM No.101497525
>>101491492
are you a woman or something? those arent tomboys
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:53:07 AM No.101497767
>>101495874
Anon, if you can't tell the difference, then it's a tomboy.
A tomboy is a chick with a dude's tastes and mindset.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:01:59 AM No.101498016
>>101492770
not having a token tomboy

>Subaru
>Okayu
>Kanata
>Ao

they may not act like it most of the time but those designs are definitely tomboy.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:14:25 AM No.101498406
>>101498016
NTA but I think that's sort of the point.
They don't have any girls who actually act like full on tomboys, and at this point it seems like there's no place for them in hololive. They can have boyish designs, but that's about it.
Probably because once someone gets too tomboyish, they just start hanging out with holostars instead of the girls because most of the time tomboys prefer male interaction to female due to the whole... you know... liking male interests thing.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:30:15 AM No.101498862
>>101498406
Subaru does act the most tomboyish and girly at the same time.

Okayu got feminized but was also quite tomboyish at first (mostly comes out during SubaOka nowadays)

Kanata is too much of an Idolfag

Ao kinda does but it's mostly playing her Ikemen/Host persona.

Calli and Kronii we're pretty tomboyish at the start but got feminized.

Chihaya seems great so far.

so that's Subaru and Chihaya as the tomboys of holo.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:58:42 AM No.101501414
>>101498862
What can we say. The unicorns of the walled garden hate anything other than pure virgins for them to fap to.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:03:31 AM No.101501538
>>101489442
Damn she's so cute!
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:09:18 AM No.101501660
>>101501538
That's a unique tomboy skill.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:30:11 AM No.101502147
>>101498862
>Calli and Kronii we're pretty tomboyish at the start but got feminized.
I never understood this feminized narrative unicorns try to sell, tomboys are still girls in the end, they still have female tendencies, they usually only show it when they get comfortable, so them showing their female side is just them gettting comfortable with streaming and nothing else.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:37:44 AM No.101502319
>>101495874
just tell us you're a faggot already
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:40:50 AM No.101502408
>>101489196 (OP)
Gigi?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:24:46 AM No.101504124
>>101491902
Obsessed
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:29:01 AM No.101504199
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>>101489196 (OP)
Who's the biggest tomboy ligger? Maybe filian?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:33:06 AM No.101504256
>>101489196 (OP)
>Liggers
>Tomboy
Anon, please. Liggers are well known and entirely accepted to be the most bitchy and basic kind of female around. You need only look at the Sinder drama and it's fallout to see them all reveal their true colours. Liggers are essential Mean Girls 2.0
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:36:11 AM No.101504297
>>101504199
Right now it's Filian or Doki. The rest lean pretty heavily into feminine stuff.
Filian or Doki could do the exact same thing they're doing now if they had dicks.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:52:40 PM No.101508958
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:04:21 PM No.101511620
>>101489196 (OP)
they know that most people prefer feminine looking and acting women
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:57:54 PM No.101513017
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:46:03 PM No.101515779
>>101489290
99% of the market is Japanese
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:47:45 PM No.101515836
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>>101489196 (OP)
because the role has already been perfected
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:17:00 PM No.101518503
>>101504297
I think they would lose some of their charm though. Otherwise, everyone would just watch the homostars.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:46:41 PM No.101519318
>>101492009
not the most, but she only has a couple of tomboy traits.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:43:49 AM No.101522396
>>101504199
filly
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:51:10 AM No.101522621
>>101489196 (OP)
Indie market? No need to try to compete with them, any "tomboy" in the indie market is swarming with males on stream. If I want a tomboy I want the escapist fantasy of the girl next door childhood friend tomboy who you both like each other but are too shy to say it. Not men.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:17:40 AM No.101523357
>>101519318
Yeah this seems to be a visual design vs. actual personality discussion and nobody will define what they mean
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:33:00 AM No.101523700
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>>101501414
Yes me
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:34:22 AM No.101523732
>>101502147
Kronii is deadpan girl not a tomboy
her model also is very feminine
please stop projecting
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:36:52 AM No.101523776
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>>101515836
Subaru LOVE
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:04:50 AM No.101525797
>>101523357
imo tomboy is an attitude and lifestyle, not a fashion sense so I have a hard time putting girls like Okayu into any kind of tomboy category.
I don't know enough about recent Subaru to judge, but does she even have any boyish hobbies anymore? Maybe sports? She's pretty much just another one of the girls at this point from what I've seen.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:47:34 AM No.101526919
>>101522621
Yes. Tomboys tend to have male friends. Liking boyish things tends to do that.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:51:20 AM No.101527011
>>101502147
Unicorns are faggots. See >>101491974
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:58:56 AM No.101527218
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>>101504199
>did parkour
>was a camp councilor
>knows MMA

she's the tomboy of tomboys
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:24:36 AM No.101527876
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:02:37 AM No.101530409
>>101492315
Is all you know about Shiori the most shallow surface shit you got from thumbnails of clips?
Figures.