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>>101523105 (OP)
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>>101523105 (OP)
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>>101523105 (OP)
>early thread

>>101523105 (OP)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>159,040: Miko (Hololive)
>79,248: Miko (Hololive)
>63,998: AZKi (Hololive)
>54,632: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>41,318: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>34,762: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>31,497: Subaru (Hololive)
>27,643: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,428: Chiroru (Indie)
>24,750: Hinano (VSPO)
>24,457: Lamy (Hololive)
>23,738: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>21,575: Fubuki (Hololive)
>20,446: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,932: Noel (Hololive)
>15,822: Okayu (Hololive)
>15,434: Rou (Nijisanji)
>15,315: Mio (Hololive)
>15,275: Gigi (Hololive)
>15,226: Mio (Hololive)
>15,104: Moka (VSPO)
>13,788: Calliope (Hololive)
>13,769: Ema (VSPO)
>13,762: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,644: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)
>12,875: Gigi (Hololive)
>12,667: Lui (Hololive)
>12,551: Korone (Hololive)
>11,866: Bae (Hololive)
>11,620: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,541: Flare (Hololive)
>11,456: Nose (VSPO)
>11,362: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,737: Risu (Hololive)
>10,252: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,217: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)

SABA NIMI SABA NIMI SABA NIMI SABA NIMI SABA NIMI SABA NIMI SABA NIMI SABA NIMI SABA NIMI

>Pretend you won
That was really nice of Kojima to include a Phase reference in DS2

At least now we know why she was too busy to stream

>>101523047
The gift cards have already been delivered

>>101523159
>>101523207
Really interesting that it would be Biboo and Mori doing it and not Fauna while she was still in.

>>101522826
>>101522716
>>101523225
I mean just based upon how everybody immediately shit on baecord for their discourse on graduated fanbases it's pretty evident that most are on good terms with the former members (schizos and retards exempt.)

Do you think Saba is going to have a discord?

>>101523280
JUN 2025 GOLD
>1) 140,836: Toya (nijisanji) 3D LIVE [41]
>2) 44,760: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN [25]
>3) 119,212: Miko (hololive) Switch2 [29]
>4) 60,431: Nijisanji (nijisanji) nijidatoka 1st one man live free part [24]
>5) 71,456: Miko (hololive) holo marika tourney [30]
>6) 116,290: Kestrel (Nijisanji)
>7) 107,161: Hajime (Hololive)
>8) 82,202: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>9) 38,068: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>10) 54,566: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11) 223,729: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>12) 62,284: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13) 69,155: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14) 62,476: Botan (Hololive)
>15) 280,906: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>16) 132,331: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17) 150,806: Miko (Hololive)
>18) 110,713: Iroha (Hololive)
>19) 56,810: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)
>20) 89,809: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>21)46,487: Miko (Hololive)
>22) 159,040: Miko (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
14x: nijisanji
8x: hololive

> PER STREAMER
7x: Kuzuha
5x: Miko
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Toya, Kanae, Kestrel, Hajime, Botan, Iroha, Ex Albio, Kanagi

>>101523337
Why?

>>101523115
Fuck them, they accepted being homowhores and degrade themselves as side piece of the homos. And as A-chan said, device whores are the ones not 'good enough' for being holos.

>>101522880
I keep telling you JP is closed. It all goes back to 2022 when Cover created homoEN and overhauled the website for auditions. The website change was part of JP being closed and replaced with devis, and EN being soft-rebooted with the failed attempt at combining EN with the homos.

Note that Cover hasn't given up on forcing either, devis is 2 gens in with no JP7 in sight and the homos are on their third fucking gen and gaining a small but nonetheless real foothold in crossbranch collabing thanks to post-reboot hires Shiori and ERB. EN management (I guess Jap got promoted out of the way because he was too CGDCT minded?) probably thought that Justice was gonna be more pro-homo in general but either they were wrong or we're looking at some mega-grim event in the future.

>>101523328
Easy game fodder for Nerissa between this and Bayonetta's one-button mode.

>>101523408
I've never seen her say that.

WTF NIMI SAID ASS

>>101523395
JUN 2025 SILVER
>1) 82,252: Hololive (hololive) 3D LIVE 1st Gen 7th anniversary
>2) 34,985: Okayu (hololive) Rythm Tengoku
>3) 82,326: Subaru (hololive) Subaru's Cabin ft. Pekora
>4) 42,162: Miko (hololive) Marika
>5) 39,542: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN
>6) 115,517: Watame (hololive) 3D LIVE Bday
>7) 46,313: Subaru (hololive) BLEACH Rebirth of Souls #9
>8) 62,390: Subaru (Hololive)
>9) 35,180: Miko (Hololive)
>10) 37,856: Miko (Hololive)
>11) 101,434: Lui (Hololive)
>12) 39,587: Botan (Hololive)
>13) 50,568: Botan (Hololive)
>14) 59,411: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>15) 104,109: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>16) 62,725: Kaede (Nijisanji)
>17) 88,214: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>18) 70,689: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>19) 54,371: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>20) 63,775: Lize (Nijisanji)
>21) 43,662: Miko (Hololive)
>22)79,248: Miko (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
15x: hololive
7x: nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
3x: Subaru, Botan
2x: Kanae
1x: Hololive, Okayu, Watame, Lui, Kuzuha, Lauren, Kaede, Shiina, Sasaki, Lize

>>101523433
>homos have less collabs than ever
>THE HOMOS ARE TAKING OVER ITS OVER GRIMGRIMGRIMGRIM PLEASE SHIT ON HOLOLIVE

>>101523449
It was in the stream when she explained what the hell was device and made that shitty graph of holo branches.

grim

>>101523469
These two are the hottest

>>101523485
still mogging

>>101523433
>It all goes back to 2022
The speculation is that changed since they put out an audition reminder on the JP twitter recently, if you missed that. Nothing else you really said matches with how things have gone with Flow Glow

>>101523391
>Really interesting that it would be Biboo and Mori doing it and not Fauna while she was still in.
Fauna's entire last few months was consumed with her prepping for her re-debut
she wasn't gonna waste time on Mori's stupid little charity

>>101523437
if it can encourage her to stream, it's a good thing

>>101523485
Now this is natty

>>101523469
JUN 2025 BRONZE
>1) 46,737: Subaru (hololive) BLEACH Rebirth of Souls #8
>2) 33,782: Botan (hololive) Holo minecraft event
>3) 78,991: Kuzuha (nijisanji) Zatsudan
>4) 40,235: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN
>5) 38,935: Pekora (hololive) Mario Kart World
>6) 47,107: Miko (hololive) Pokemon Ruby
>7) 43,233: Okayu (hololive) Mario Kart World w/ FubuMio
>8) 50,754: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>9) 30,983: Botan (Hololive)
>10) 34,750: Botan (Hololive)
>11) 41,452: Botan (Hololive)
>12) 39,343: Pekora (Hololive)
>13) 37,754: Miko (Hololive)
>14) 42,767: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>15) 46,278: Miko (Hololive)
>16) 56,507: Leos (Nijisanji)
>17) 74,807: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>18) 41,037: Miko (Hololive)
>19) 36,945: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>20) 43,234: Miko (Hololive)
>21) 42,968: Leos (Nijisanji)
>22) 63,998: AZKi (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
14x: hololive
8x: nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
4x: Botan
2x: Pekora, Leos
1x: Subaru, Kuzuha, Kanae, Okayu, Nijisanji, Kuzuha, Ibrahim, Maimoto, AZKi

How do we stop cosplayers from defaming our oshis?

>>101523485
>3 times Kuzuha likes
It's insane how this guy is botted

>>101523503
ayylmao

>>101523503
all of them are the same...they only changed the hair color and the skin tone. What about sizes?

>indie avengers
whats the fucking point? what could the various chuubas hope to achieve if this theoretical group/corp actually formed?
>dooby doesn't stream
>gura won't stream
>nimi does like 1 collab a year
>mumei won't stream (if she even comes back)
none of the girls have any actual drive or desire to do shit that requires an organization/group and there's zero chance they would give any kind of management power over them. It would just be a loose collection of chuubas doing their own thing in their little corners.

>>101523395
Jeez man Hololive really is not looking good this year
one too many controversies one after another methinks

>>101523529
JUN 2025 holoID
>1) 2,612: Iofi (Balldur's Gate 3)
>2) 3,335: Risu (M.M.M.)
>3) 4,188: Kaela (Don't Starve Together)
>4) 3,641: Reine (HADES)
>5) 6,688: Kaela (Old Market Simulator) [2]
>6) 1,563: Kaela (Summer Game Fest Watchalong)
>7) 7,538: Iofi (Baldur's Gate 3)
>8) 7,288: Zeta (3D Karaoke Secret Unit Day 2025)
>9) 5,864: Kaela (COMMUNITY TOURNAMENT)
>10) 11,960: Risu (DINKUM)
>11) 5,186: Anya (Hololive Minecraft Goldrush Survival)
>12) 7,489: Kaela (Mario Kart World)
>13) 1,818: Reine (Lorelei and the Laser Eyes)
>14) 4,870: Reine (Mario Kart World)
>15) 9,669: Kaela (R.E.P.O.)
>16) 8,809: Kaela (Dont Starve)
>17) 2,343: Risu (Spilled)
>18) 2,204: Ollie (DINKUM)
>19) 11,057: Kaela
>20) 2,852: Anya
>21) 4,646: Kaela
>22) 10,737: Risu (Hololive)

> PER STREAMER
10x: Kaela
4x: Risu
2x: Iofi, Reine, Anya
1x: Zeta, Ollie

>>101523518
Not necessarily in the final year but there was a pretty big gap after the success of Ame's that I'm surprised that there was no followup

>>101523543
For me is amistery why this faggot is botted to oblivion.

>>101523469
The First Descendant is based because they made a canonically blacked girl
I know they're Korean but that's still pretty based

>>101523516
>they put out an audition reminder on the JP twitter recently
That could be because people aren't sending applications out of fear of ending up in devis.

>>101523554
Mumei WILL comeback

>>101523553
Their faces and boob sizes are definitely different (legs look copy and pasted though)

>>101523543
damn

>>101523554
Provide fuel to the shitposters, which is why they keep spamming it.

>>101523542
Didn't Mint go to the con in person? I think she's okay with this kind of stuff

>>101523592
>Mumei

>>101523579
He's Riku's sexfriend

>>101523567
JUN 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,185: Gigi (hololive) FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS [41]
>2) 10,015: Tsuna (VSPO) Stardew Valley [25]
>3) 10,040: Ichihoshi (indie) baseball watch [29]
>4) 10,306: Kagami (nijisanji) goblin gnome horn [24]
>5) 10,462: Sho (nijisanji) Mario kart world [30]
>6) 10,139: Rou (Nijisanji)
>7) 10,054: Gehenna (AKA Virtual)
>8) 10,051: Noel (Hololive)
>9) 10,306: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10) 10,300: Nose (VSPO)
>11) 10,017: AZKi (Hololive)
>12) 10,002: Cecilia (Hololive)
>13) 10,537: Cecilia (Hololive)
>14) 10,019: Koyori (Hololive)
>15) 10,812: Su (Hololive)
>16) 10,770: Noel (Hololive)
>17) 10,518: Flare (Hololive)
>18) 10,016: Nimi (Indie)
>19) 10,243: Hinano (VSPO)
>20) 10,093: Raora (Hololive)
>21) 10,177: Rou (Nijisanji)
>22) 10,217: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
10x: hololive
3x: VSPO
2x: indie
6x: nijisanji
1x: AKA Virtual

> PER STREAMER
2x: Cecilia
1x: Gigi, Tsuna, Ichihoshi, Kagami, Sho, Rou, Gehenna, Noel, Lauren, Nose, AZKi, Koyori, Su, Noel, Flare, Nimi, Hinano, Raora, Rou, Rikiichi

>>101523592
Do people really believe this or is pure hopium?

>>101523579
He is THE face of the company, there is no NijiJP without Kuzukek, he needs to look good every single time, even when he doesn't.

>Oh like Gu-
NOPE, HoloEN survived the Guraduation, just as HoloJP would survive losing Miko or Pekora, Niji would never survive losing Kuzuha

>>101523614
>granny panties
Why? Where is the sexy semitransparent thong? What a prude, I heard she wanted to be sexually desired.

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1lipgh0/cat_fish_got_her_debut_merch_prepped/
A lot of seethe in these comments and interesting narratives

>>101523655
I think after like a year of working an actual job and realizing how awful it is she'll come back as an indie.

>>101523666
Eh, looking at his likes, pretty sure he would not be missed. Sister will choose another homo to bot.

>>101523105 (OP)
100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko announcement (Miko/22-06)

# of 100k streams last year: 58

>>101523677
Because she's becoming a hag.

>>101523712
Isn't that pretty much the anti/phasefag den?

>>101523666
>Niji would never survive losing Kuzuha
maybe pre Idios, but even if their numbers would drastically go down without Kuzuha, he's not any more vital to Niji being around as Suisei or Miko are to holo, Niji as a company, at least in it's identity and content flow has far outgrown Kuzuha, the VTA graduates are the ones leeding all the new projects and getting fat budgets for their stuff, while they keep grooming Nijis like Furen to do the work that they would have Kuzuha do previously

>>101523721
That's just the general decline of Niji as a whole, his only replacement would be Chinboy but he streams once every blue moon

>>101523712
here's my thoughts on the matter

>tapir of greed
wheres the fish of greed?

>>101523712
Holofags are so fucking weird.

>>101523712
>interesting narratives
The amount of people in the vtuber community that don't really watch any vtubers but just rrat about them is always impressive
>>101523761
Kind of is now yeah, feels like a lot of here shitposters and antis just started posting there instead

>>101523543
People who have mogged LE KING Kuzuha:
>Pekora
>Miko
>Mio
>Korone
>Okayu
>Gigi
>Raora
>Ollie
>Kronii
>Mori
>Shiori
>HoloX
>DEV_IS
>Promise
>Iofi
>Sora
>Haachama
>Fuwamoco
>Rushia
>Polka
>And Nimi Nightmare on a debuff stream

>>101523768
lol lmao even

Never ask why the towelposters disappeared

>>101523745
Unfertilized hags are the most that want to be desired.

>>101523863
>feels like a lot of here shitposters and antis just started posting there instead
is that why /vt/ is dying?

>>101523915
The confidence with which you speak about things you know nothing about is almost admirable

>>101523740
POCHI SEX

>>101523944
I mean, shit, if these efforts were really working they wouldn't have to both Koshien just to lift most of their participants out of 4view status, they wouldn't have to organize and rig tournaments so Kuzuha wins, they wouldn't have to hide and hush hush yabs so Kuzuha and his cronies don't feel bad, they wouldn't have to do what they have been doing for the past THREE. YEARS.

VTA is a joke and there is a reason Meloco and the new Niji homos dodged it.

>>101523712
Holo fans are so pathetic lmao
They're so scared of the other talents seeing Saba, Nimi, and Dooby are doing the same if not better while not having to deal with Cover's bullshit
The illusion has been completely and utterly shattered so they're lashing out, so sad

>>101523572
this is the second time Mori is doing a charity, and the second time it'll likely be an endurance stream of some sort

>>101524000
You used a triple zero post for this?! Fucking monkey faggot give me that post back so someone actually useful in society can have GETs

>>101524000
>/VirtualYoutubers/
oh you cant read

>>101523905
Mel...

>>101523572
>Not necessarily in the final year but there was a pretty big gap after the success of Ame's that I'm surprised that there was no followup
Fauna actually wanted to do one at one point but said there was a lot of logistical bullshit that made it very hard. Maybe sometime between when she said that and Ame did her second charity it lightened up (because even Mori ended up doing one afterwards too) but she probably gave up before that happened.

>>101524067
This may surprise you anon but there are in fact Hololive fans on the virtualyoutubers subreddit

Hololive itself does debut merch now, why do people seethe so much about this?

>>101524070
>logistical bullshit
yeah ah jeez she would have had to send TWO EMAILS
way too much work

>>101524136
What the hell is this, it looks like Enna

>>101524136
Same reason for why they got mad about her linking her accounts. They are retarded.

>>101524149
You might be blind, anonchama.

>>101523987
Nozomi, Saiki, Sho, Ruri, Suzuna, are all some of the bigger hits that Niji has debuted post-Salome and they're all VTA graduates, and when you consider the current state of NijiEN dodging VTA hardly seems like a bonus, specially when VTA graduates like Ruri even beat Meloco to getting their 3D debut first, despite debuting afterwards. Nozomi, Sho and to a lesser extend Suzuna are even doing better than the glowies

>>101524146
And that's why I'm sure there were plenty of charities done between Ame's first and second.
Oh wait.

>>101524149
she acts like Enna too

>>101524136
its an excuse to get mad

>>101524136
because they don't watch vtubers, all of them do that

>>101524136
we've been already through all of this why can't this thread just drill it inside their fucking heads?

>>101524183
This? This is one of your bigger hits? Are you fucking kidding me, are you pulling a prank on me? This is Shiori, fuck it, this is HALF a Shiori, numbers like this wouldn't carry even motherfucking Holostars, please!

It's ramping up

>>101524208
>>101524136
I'm not convinced by her new model. Also, I hope it's not nacho her mama this time.

NIMI FUCKING BUY A NEW EVERYTHING
GODDAMN
HOW DO YOU GET DRIFT ON YOUR XBOX MAN

Never trust /#/

>>101524243
how much before debut?

>>101524239
Oh look this one has half decent numbers (for an EN, not a JP) let's look at-SHE IS FUCKING BOTTED, BOTTED TO 4VIEW STATUS, WOW WHAT A GREAT BIG HIT TRULY THE NEW FACE OF THE COMPANY YEAH LET'S GO

>>101524136
>Seethe
None of it's genuine, okay maybe some are just that retarded, it's just an excuse to anti and attack the girls. Consistancy doesn't really matter to them

>>101524183
>Nozomi, Saiki, Sho, Ruri, Suzuna
Back in the day I would've known who these people were just from browsing this thread.

>>101524136
Cover management works on Cover talents' debut merch on Cover’s own company time
In my opinion, ex-indies shouldn’t work on indie debut merch while working as part of Hololive and selling merch as part of Hololive
That’s just me because in my industry I can moonlight for my new job before I quit my current one, but it’s unethical and looked down upon by most people because I’m disrespecting my current employer

>>101524270
You mean a controller? I was planning to buy a new one for my PC. Which one is good now?

>>101524136
Hololive has a monopoly on discussion about vtubers every where. No one who watches holo actually cares what saba is going to be doing with her merch. Get ready for months of falseflagging from totally real holo viewers though.

>>101524281
Generic blond cat.

>>101524287
Hey didn't this guy had a 180k 3D live GEEZ WHERE DID ALL THOSE PEOPLE GO WHY IS HE A 4VIEW SHITTER WOW OH GEEZ HE JUST HAD AN 180K WOW GEEZ WHERE IS EVERYBODY

>>101524310
Yeah apparently she banged up her controller so bad the stick drifts. But Xbox is ususally fine, Playstation is too. Both are just expensive. I love by Elite 2 though.

>>101524136
>money going to the company = based
>talent getting all the money = bad

>>101524183
the fuck, we have a real nijinigger here.

>>101524305
ex-holos* shouldn’t work on indie debut merch

>>101524332
She has a fish tail.

>>101524239
Anon, have you seen what Ririka, Niko or Riona are working with?

>>101523712
Holo bros explain this shit

>>101524146
Mori touched upon it a fair bit, and there's a ton of vetting Cover's legal does before approving a charity, they also make sure that it isn't something that could possibly clash or come as distasteful with the vtuber character (Mori wanted to do a hospice/child cancer treatment charity at first, but realized it'd come off pretty badly as a Reaper character)
compare it to Nimi and her charity being done basically on impulse, it's hard to say how thorough her vetting process was in the end or if the financial statements are as transparent as the charities Holo worked with offer (though Nimi is shrewd enough to likely still pick something fairly legitimate)

>>101524305
You don't crosstrain to improve your resume while doing your current responsibilities? It's pretty naiive because companies can lay you off instantly (which happened to me after years of loyalty anyway, and this is as a mid level contributor in a white collar industry that requires graduate degrees)

>>101524376
Yeah and I would never call them Biggest Hits, hell I would even be hesitant to call VIVI a success

>>101524316
>Hololive has a monopoly on discussion about vtubers every where
Even on Twitch?

>>101524316
>No one who watches holo actually cares what saba is going to be doing with her merch
Baffling post. Look at that reddit post or the twitter seethe. They're all Holofags who watch and post Holo streams.

>>101524382
>Hololive
>Oppressive moral code
Dude, they actively push homocollabs on their talents

>>101524282
600k, the debut would push her to 1M within 2 weeks

>>101524243
She just ticked again
>>101524282
Depends if she uploads more videos to youtube I guess. I am very curiou how long 1M will take her, and how long she'll keep momentum

>>101524397
Yeah, pretty sure most nobody 1/2 view chuubas over there are looking at holo as the end all be all, not fillian or ironmouse.

>>101524394
best way to crosstrain is by making moves internally to a new domain or specialty even if they kick and scream wanting you to stay in the same role

>>101524396
yeah anon, and it's almost like the trend of new vtubers failing to blow up affects everyone in the industry, except those who just transplant their pre existing audiences and that Niji is a smaller less popular corpo than Holo.

>>101524305
Respect doesn't pay the bills and company loyalty gets you nowhere, no company is gonna be loyal to YOU as an individual, they will simply replace you and not give a fuck about any of your contributions to the company. You only exist to a company if you're an active employee that is helping them generate profit. The current modern job market has no loyalty, you go where the money is or you become jobless and homeless. If it's better to have your own thing and not be part of a company, then that's the path some will take.

I wish the NUMBERS thread would understand this basic concept that has been true for decades before any vtuber thing ever stared and it wasn't infected by corporate cultists. Or are you really gonna argue that companies DO care about loyalty and all that shit? I've certainly seen zero evidence of this being a thing, neither Cover or anycolor or anyone else shows any loyalty to their current employees and they don't show respect once they leave, either. It's all about money for them, you're an afterthought once you leave, and it's the same for any other job for any other company on this planet.

>>101524136
It's a win-win game for shitposters
>ex-holos don't do for profit things
>hololive is bad and squeezes every penny out weebs unlike indies
>ex-holos do for profit things
>they just want a bigger paycheck for less work

>>101524517
>neither Cover or anycolor or anyone else shows any loyalty to their current employees and they don't show respect once they leave, either
trying to erase all nuance is a true mark of a ligger

yab

>>101524305
Loyalty is fucking bullshit. Most companies would have you fucking train some newcomer then fire you for no fucking reason other than they wanted to pay the new fucker less. This isn't the 60's, 70's, or even 80's where you can find a mom and pop shop and be loyal and maybe get somewhere, every. Single. Fucking. job is out for #1, and that isn't you

>>101524517
As a corporate slave, I can vouch for this. The corpo will simply replace you just like Gura is being replaced by Biboo.

>>101524589
>>101524604
man, I'm sorry for the shitholes you guys worked in

>>101524305
I'm going to be blunt, this opinion is simply retarded and doesn't apply here.
Do you anti the girls that actually do moonlight while working at hololive

>>101524604
Biting your brown low iq bait, but, Gura could have simply been normal and continued just streaming a couple of days a week for a few hours.

>>101524354
I'm fine buying the standard wireless one. I'm tired of the cable.

>>101524305
>I’m disrespecting my current employer
How does that make sense?

>>101524604
>>101524589
just get skilled enough to do consulting if you want to "go indie"

>>101524657
You never go wireless, man.

>>101524569
NTA, I mean Cover do show respect to their current members but I was definitely less than impressed by the Moom/Fauna erasure in EnReco despite their years of service (although I might be biased as a Promisefag.)

>>101524394
>>101524517
It’s not a matter of loyalty but respect. If I’m switching jobs, I and almost everyone I know quits the first job before starting the new one. It’s still after we do interviewing and sign the papers with the new company. moonlighting is specifically working for both at the same time.
I know a small group of people cash in on extra paychecks from their old employer while working for their new one until they get noticed. That is unethical to me.

NIMI 9K DORYAAAAA
10K STILL ON THE TABLE

>>101524649
My post is clearly referring to moonlighting in between jobs

>>101524706
n-natty...

Brrats haven't learned.

>>101524680
I think the wireless technology is good enough nowadays.

>>101524576
Noble confidant-zoned...

>>101524682
You are biased, bad actors would use them to cry at cover for "parading their corpses"

>>101524729
Obviously femanon, there's zero other streams.

>>101524735
anon might dislike overreliance on batteries

>>101524733
>falling for a fictional man
But roberto is real and can visit her home every night.

>>101524720
holos are contractors though. they're not real employees with benefits, stocks, retirement matching, etc

>>101524733
>baecord
>using IRyS tag
huh? baerys fag still exists?

>>101524652
As the previous anon said, the newbie is willing to perform the same work for less pay. The senior employee, despite contributing greatly to the company, is now being forced to compete with the drive of her juniors or get cut off. Management is also diverting opportunities in the name of "equality", just a facade to keep any talent from becoming too strong.

>>101524748
it's mere coincidence it was stabilizing near 1 hour mark like a typical stream and then inclined linearly from there

>>101524742
>"parading their corpses"
NTA but nobody actually cares about this angle, certainly not cover who still includes the graduated girls in some products like the TCG, and if it's actually Gura in the necromancer collab then the entire point is stupid

>>101524382
A better time

>>101524729
>4k likes

>>101524775
It wasn't though.

>>101524756
For me, it's fine, I have a razer orochi. I don't mind buying an extra one or two batteries. I'm just tired of cables.

>>101524576
Flare is pretty cute

>>101524770
>As the previous anon said, the newbie is willing to perform the same work for less pay.
this is incredibly far from truth for most corpos in the West right now, salary stagnation is a commonly cited problems and new hires oftentimes start at a level older workers only reached after multiple seasonal raises, which is why people in corporate swap jobs at ridiculous pace

>>101524763
I know the analogy isn’t perfect. But it’s just me attempting to explain why it doesn’t sit right with me.
I don’t care so much that I would not watch them or become an anti, but I do think it’s a valid reason to not be happy about it.

>>101524820
It's not.

>>101524770
>is now being forced to compete with the drive of her juniors or get cut off
She could have literally continued streaming and Biboo would not impact her in any way, Biboo would just continue to grow on her own naturally.
>Management is also diverting opportunities in the name of "equality", just a facade to keep any talent from becoming too strong.
Proof of that happening while she was still in? Were you going to say the Dodgers collab that they now gave to Biboo?

>>101524820
it's kinda funny since one of the biggest axes to grind people had with early Mori was their assumption she obviously was preparing an exit plan while taking Holo money for little work
now it's just praised as smart business approach now that Nimi done it and Saba is following the same schematic

>>101524778
There is no Gura card, for the other stuff they probably were already on the final steps of production to just throw them away

>>101524815
Depending on the companies, but also Cover is a Japanese company. And swapping job is is reincarnating in vtuber terms, no?

>>101524742
Nobody sees it as "parading their corpses" because that's dependent on how the fans see the departed members. In Niji it looked like a blatant cash grab because they clearly hated her guts but still sold her merch. Contrasted with Holo everybody still loved them (including other Holos) so it would be anything but.

>>101524764
a few, Bae's biggest paypig and this artist are the most notable ones but it's mostly brrats

>>101524136
i hope shes flat as fuck

>>101524775
That was when Miko ended, so yeah it was

>>101524853
>people
>now it's just praised
Retard

>>101524729
That's a completely natty graph and her likes are normal because she's like culled

>>101524865
Japanese company have almost the opposite problems where senior workers receive benefits and power that newbies can't even imagine asking for, it's one of the reasons why their economy is so stagnant and NEETdom is on the raise

>>101524517
Thats a commie schizo. Corporations are simply people who volunteer to benefit each other. If you dont feel benefit, you leave. If the company doesnt see benefit in you, the company leaves you. But in most cases, the talent and the company work together voluntarily for mutual beneficial. There are no relationship that last long without it being mutually beneficiary. With exception being familial, even that has limits.

you guys whine a lot about vtubers making money, but you fail to realize this isn't something they can rely on until they retire. they're not going to have a steady income stream until they're in their 50s+ so it's in their best interest to make and save what they can now

>>101524887
I said bad actors

>>101524911
yes, people, you act like it wasn't a popular sentiment circa 2021-22, and the position basically flipped now when it's much more actively ridiculed

>>101524848
The proof is in the song releases. Compare Gura's to Mori's or even Kiara's. People always blamed Gura for being lazy or said her projects took too long. Regardless, Cover couldn't solve this, so what's the point in staying affiliated?

>>101524729
as natty as nijien

>>101524921
LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN! AREN'T I JUST SO FUNNY?

>>101524932
Retard

>>101524955
It was shitposters. And the same people keep doing that still with Nimi and Saba.

Looks like my friend was right again with her Gura leaks.
She said Gura/Saba already signed 3 sponsors, all of which are also HoloEN sponsors, with 3 others in the negotiation/bidding phase.

>>101520883
8-14 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>101524978
explain how anything i said is wrong. or are you assuming they're going to be living off of merch and sponsor royalties forever?

>>101524960
With that being said, shes going to become a songbird now right? Multiple albums released per year? That really sounds like an insane reason to quit and not find a compromise.

>>101524733
>fictional man
qrd

>>101525027
Majima I think?

>>101524986
the "shitposters" back then were capable of repainting the whole catalog pink, now you get 2-3 anemic threads with only one crossing bump limit at best, you do need people who play into the sentiment to pull off the former

>>101524960
Comparing any EN to Mori or Kiara is stupid, they are literally #1 and #2 for song releases and everyone else is far in the distance
Gura is not going to become a music monster after leaving, claiming she will is an easy and blatant grudgepost. Did she ever show any interest in working on an album? We never even got reflect (jazz version) released

>>101524909
Are you trying to claim 35p are watching Nimi? Lmao. This is Biboo's JP mindshare all over again.

>>101525027
the same as shitori and her husbandos, although she also cream herself with winning son, but that homo is real.

>>101524909
it's nice that 35p are joining Nimi's stream in that nice orderly fashion unlike the ugly bump that leveled off for Koyori, really shows JP fans are just more polite and organized when watching EN talents

>>101525110
>35p
HoloEN fans, retard. There's no other EN stream.

>>101524955
Has it occurred to you that public opinion can change? It's the same as the people who equate Fauna to Nimi. That would not have flown in 2021-2022. We explicitly did not consider past and future incarnations to be the same as the vtuber in Hololive but the culture is different now.

>>101525110
Nimi still got the funnels Fauna used to get from Mio/Koyori. It's probably mostly the EN viewers that are watching them, sure.
Miko ended and Nimi got a small bump, seems pretty clear
>>101525183
There's literally no other streams going on until Bae

>>101525183
Why don't you post the graph?

>>101525212
this graph?

No overlap for 3 fucking hours and she's literally at the last half of the game. She just beat the last boss and is about to hit the scene where sans fucks toriel. Not sure why people are pretending this hasn't happened with Fauna before

walfie makes games now

dino saba plush soon

>>101525225
Koyori's.

>>101524764
It's the most popular shipping tag, much to the seething of hirys

>>101525258
WAIT, THE MIDDLE? THERE'S MORE? I HATE THIS.

>>101525260
i unfollowed walfie as soon as i heard he uses rust

>>101525210
the was no streams going on for the first hour she was streaming too, but the grap was forming a typical level off curve?

>>101525262
it's literally there in the post I replied to, green line is Miko ending, red line is Koyo

>>101525258
Pebbles have been mindbroken into hating Nimi for some reason. Just ignore.

>>101525301
>leveled off
Post it.

>>101525315
>pebbles
oh it's you ?

>>101525286
can't imagine it's more popular than autofister or any of the twitter lesbian ships like bloodraven

Sans fucked your mom

>>101525353
No, that retard that keeps seething at Nimi graphs is the Portuguese pebble.

>>101525315
Leave me and my wife alone, we are on vacation.

>>101525357
It was, until 2024.

>>101525301
dont bother too much with the nimitranny, he'll make up the shittiest excuses for the engine graphs

>deltarune ending
fuck so close

>samefagging because he's not getting any yous
heh

>>101525450
Well maybe if she tries the chapter 3 secret boss

great news for Nerissa as her 850k merch enters its last week
>152 left
24 sold since >>101455194 2 days ago. she hasn't had double digit sales per day in weeks
7 days to go, so it's still not enough but if she can stream over the weekend and push that FOMO she might squeak into selling out

>>101525450
I was about to say the same. Almost 10k

we lost ppm compared to weekend with 7ppm 3 days in a row. where is everyone?

shes battling Malenia in deltarune

>>101525405
you're wife a cute

Another sub 10k Nimi stream. The new normal?

>>101525477
>shes battling Malenia
Is she gonna try the Knight?

dang, wouldve hit 10k if she hadnt finished

>>101525475
A lot of grems got banned yesterday for responding to a naughty post

>>101525475
towa

https://youtu.be/Nih0jDdKZL4
>They didn't dub her
>"The data scientist"
>Nousagi hat
>Pekorandom Brain
>Reedus says peko weirdly
Absolute kino

>>101525260
This is the reason Mint is so prevalent in the fandom, she actually puts in time and effort in grooming prominent creatives/fans, of course it's always people on the hololive fanbase, but given how many holos keep things profesional with their fans, the entire scene if ripe with opportunities for smaller indies to take advantage of them because their real oshi will never get this personal with them

>>101525502
How many people left?

>>101525484
>Deltarune

>>101525508
i'm still here, i'm not dumb enough like those niggas

>>101525544
1k

>>101525020
>>101525081
Dunno but even Shachi said she will release some covers

>>101525541
Imma kill them if they hire EN VA to dub her

>>101525562
Natty it is then

>>101525507
Could've would've may've might've will had was probably going to most likely going to was easily reaching it

>>101525551
I ain't your nigga, cracka

>>101525562
1k natty, 8.7k bots, nice

>hololive
no one is live

>>101525613
IRyS is getting cucked in 2 hours if that counts

>>101525613
EN5 will save us

>>101525613
bae in five

>>101525603
XD

>>101525562
Natty
Holoen could never

>>101525613
holofans are over here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-47VQkWQs

>>101525541
Fucking Otaku

NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE

>>101524136
why are you tourists acting like we didn't already hate gura for the past couple of years?

>>101525674
Holy yab, its over.

Nimi is so fucking cute

Huh, since it was a boring night, I decided to take a look at the archives during funny moments.

Homobeggars during El Silencio were presenting a very funny argument, that FWMC were not real idols because real idols wouldn't be silent when Dubais appeared, because that would be unprofessional or something

>>101524136
>doesnt stream
>comes back to shill merch
the tale of years

>>101525702
today

>>101525708
Have any flesh idols ran into an El Silencio moment ever?

>>101525579
they should let Mori dub her but she's just reading MGS wiki articles about the Patriots

>>101525737
They should let KRONII dub her, with her marijuana-like voice, that shit would be class

nimis shouts are really feminine and white

This boss is dumb as shit but Nimi is making this uncomfortably cute

>>101525541
Who would be the best va for Pekora? The VA from vshojo would be kino

>>101525579
>>101525737
>>101525745
They should let Miko dub her
In English

>>101524517
>Respect doesn't pay the bills and company loyalty gets you nowhere, no company is gonna be loyal to YOU as an individual, they will simply replace you and not give a fuck about any of your contributions to the company.
gura and fauna were millionaires and in no danger of being replaced by anyone. what you say is true and might apply for people flipping burgers at mcdonalds, but it's not applicable here.

mew mew mew mew mew mew mew

>>101525794
preach yo truth nigga

NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE NIMI CUTE

>>101525794
>posting IRyS
>the girl most disrespected by Cover ever

>>101523712
im a fan and i want early merch. why the fuck are these fags crying dont watch her then

She is so cute, all those cute sounds. This mic mode it's incredible.

>>101525405
MORI CALLIOPE?

>>101525405
You don't need to rub it in our face, Mori

>>101525830
omega getting fired shows that cover does care and they have improved. if it was niji he'd be still running the branch.

>>101525830
Evidence receipts and timestamps?

>>101525745
>>101525779
>no one got the Pekora Takeover event reference
she fell off...

meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow

>>101525836
God Bless Toby Fox

>>101525830
Thats rushia

meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow

>>101525794
You know that even JPs are being replaced, right?

>>101525260
Is this the one who abandoned HoloEN for pre-Luxiem NijiEN only to have cocks come in to beat down the mostly CGDCT fanbase and turn it into the underage SEA fanbase it is today?

>>101525794
I mean, have you never quit your job because it was getting annoying and uncomfortable? They're well off, they accumulated frustration from some projects falling off (sometimes even right before release) and they had nothing else going on for them, just quit!

Could have they stayed if they had been given more? Perhaps, but Aqua was given everything that she wanted, far far more than her EN peers, and she still left, some people just start to dislike their job and quit before it affects their skills. Would have you prefer seeing Gura or Fauna or Mumei just open stream, game silently for an hour, then shutting off?

>>101525830
IRyS ran into obstruction and managerial heavyhandedness, but ultimately she did not get replaced in any fashion, instead getting a new place in a gen, a complete redesign that's been receiving catch up outfits to get her on par with rest of the branch, some of the best 3D event production in the branch, freedom in picking her music direction and support allowing her to release an EP and collab with an eurobeat legend and is involved in a ton of sponsorships and collabs, including the repeat Dodgers event

>>101525921
Who replaced Shion?

>>101525884
What was the reference? That was so long ago I've forgotten

>>101525921
i'm still waiting for Aqua replacement. No, Towa is shit at apex and fps in general

Even though the concert sold out quickly, why doesn't this feel like a win for HoloEN at all?

>>101525543
>This is the reason Mint is so prevalent in the fandom
Pretty sure its because Kiara likes her a lot for whatever reason. Do you really think she would not be just another Doki if she didnt have a direct in with a Holo girl?

>>101525871
lol they did a terrible job only looking at the surface and only kicking omegatroon but not the rest of the sisters, as lately fagoo admitted after doing a real investigation and looking deeper after the three graduations and realizing how fucked up the things were in reality. Although I have no faith in him to finally fix the branch, seeing the twatter fujo is still there.

>>101525972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfon1W9BCVs&t=6886s

>>101525940
Bot post

These retards really like the word replaced. Hololive is full of unique talents who stand on their own not cannon fodder for the 1% like Nijisanji

>>101526011
they keep recycling the same angles. it's gotten boring reading their slop

Seeing the words "Biboo was hired to replace Gura" is baffling because they have absolutely zero in common besides being cunny, and even then it's a different type of cunny

What, if the South African chuuba gets hired, now she is the new Gura replacement?

>Hijack all the seats
>don't watch their oshi streams
brats are the worst

I swear people are gaslighting me about saba's design because to me it looks like dogshit, but that doesn't seem to be the general opinion

>>101525990
someone really need to rile up homosisters for them to declare war on hololive and yagoo to realize its not worth it, its either Nerissa or Fuwamoco to do it

Nimi isn't balling...

>>101526011
Hex (Vox replacement) graduated before the original

>>101526049
Bae solo live when

>>101526039
she is the mumei replacement since she is also in a wheelchair

>>101526049
the Bae overlap hell is deadly

>>101526049
She has over 450 watchu mean?

>>101526050
its dogshit anon dont let people gaslight you
it looks like she kitbashed her gura model with FWMC

Hytalebros....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym-sptXTuME

>>101526050
No one is going to openly shit on it, but yes, the design is... odd, maybe the artist is going to make it work, maybe even the rigging can make it work.

Bae brings up a good point since the yearly EN concerts always line up with animenyc now it's extremely inconvenient for her and kronii since it lands on their anniversary

>Bae 3k with overlap hell
Impressive rat

>>101526050
You haven't seen the entire thing. Shut up, retard.

>>101525988
Mint is way more likeable than Doki so it's not even a real comparison. Mint isn't the one who bragged about how much money she makes to internet randos and then posted the exchange on Twitter like she was proud of it

>>101526050
It took months for people to admit Soggy mama isn't what she was in 2021

>>101526092
Never heard of it

>>101526039
gura replacement would make much more sense as a rrat if they hire Yuko from Idol

>>101526050
sticking fluffy ears on a fish looked like shit on her second outfit, looks like shit on every Twitch whore who does it (Shylily etc.) and will look like shit on Saba, hopefully rest of the outfit carries it or it's just a toggle

>>101526057
only true shitters attach too hard into the corpo ass because they know they are nothing outside

Well, Deltarune haters are probably happy because nimi doesn't seem that into it, prolly the last stream ever of it

Kind of a bummer she seems so much more attached to undertale

>>101526136
Its supposed to be Minecraft 2 created by the dev of Hypixel

sames vibes

Nimi shelving Elden Ring
She will never become Elden Lord

>Lost in vivo next, probably
Fuck...

>>101526130
I dont care about Doki, more of the example of Mint freely collabing with Kiara basically whenever she wants, and that then being stretched out to the rest of holo, with Kiara randomly introducing her to Biboo recently.

>>101526057
Remember when this guy tried to copy Vox's entire workflow down to the post-ASMR gaming session? He also put Chinese subs in his debut lmao.

>>101526050
And you will seethe when it turns out it doesn't matter at all and she rockets to 1M subs with a daily 30k average CCV before Justice even hits a 500k average subs.

Kino Kojumbo

https://youtu.be/GwiRFalbZRQ?si=Y71Eyisx_ETRjpMj

>>101526153
Vox, Elira, Enna and Millie might just never graduate because they have become absolutely reviled people on the V-Tubing community and any attempts at indie networking would be met with disdain and mockery, like Mikeneko after V-Shojo

>>101526204
Predict the number of "Downgrade reee" posts every day.

>>101526196
>Kiara randomly introducing her to Biboo recently.
Actually I'm pretty sure in this case it was FWMC's fault since FWMC are also friends with Mint and Biboo talks to them a lot while rarely interacting with Kiara.

>>101526201
well, it seems that fag actually embraced it and have a decent following for a homo. And he better stay in his corner with his fujos.

>>101526176
What? She liked it. Just not doing the secret boss she missed.

>30k average
Ignoring the shitposter, an unculled Gura might let us see EN numbers we haven't seen in years thanks to being a US channel

>>101526204
>shit rigging
>becomes #1
>shit design
>becomes #1
how does she do it

>>101526247
I also thought that, but no, it was confirmed it was Kiara in some clip.

>>101526252
idk she seemed pretty checked out towards the end, all the big ending stuff was happening and she was damn near in skip mode

>the HoloEN twitter RT homo schedule
grim…

>101526204
>101526236
>101526257
NO ONE BITES? WELL I'M RESPONDING TO MYSELF THEN!

Why did ut flop? Even nerissa's latest flop mogs this in views

>>101526257
woops forgot my smug image

>>101526274
Oh, I'm actually surprised then. Wtf?

Nimi said she's excited for Saba debut next week

>>101526039
>The response to gura hiatus was always "stream"
>New loli appeared emphasizing she's a long streamer
Totally not a replacement guys

>>101526277
>What are you talking abou-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCK THIS SHIT

>>101526334
For what purpose

>>101526313
Is "streaming a lot" the only necessary requirement to replace Gura? Shit, then she wasn't popular at all

>>101526313
I bet you are baffled why all of your loli indie shitters who copied Gura never made it big

>>101526313
Gura was never an endurance streamer so yeah it's not a replacement. If anything she's the first real endurance streamer in EN, a new archetype rather than trying to replace anyone

>>101526332
Hahaha imagine if your oshi is fucking ERB

>>101526295
I suspect Mint was at the Cover studio with Kiara to record for Kiara's Birthday 3D (hence why they hardly talked about meeting up), and they ran into Biboo there, and Kiara introduced them.

>>101526255
Didn't that region thing get debunked? Or is YT just hating chuubas and culling them.

Funnel

>>101526204
anon if shes #1 or not doesn't change the fact the model is dogshit

>>101526378
Because they didn't have the backing of corpo botfarms.

>>101526334
This is some kind of a privilege, right? Affirmative action?

>>101526386
>Or is YT just hating chuubas and culling them.
the 2020 algo change was literally Susan hating on Hololive

>>101526334
That faggot streams more than Nerissa

>>101526227
I guess the moment nijiSEA dies, they will also die.

>>101526291
this gonna age about as well as Sakunaposting

>>101526394
Beautiful.

>>101526419
Who?

>>101526386
Nimi's chat stats to ccv were always pretty consistant with ENs so I don't think the region thing is true at least

Reformed bros we lost...
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1936969992874172460?s=19

>>101526400
>mask off already

So at the end of the day, sub culling is just something used to bring down Hololive? We haven't seen a single cull on saba and there isn't a pre-debut vtuber on Youtube with 500k subs. With 1 short and 1 video on a new channel.

>>101526371
>>101526378
>>101526379
It was cover logic
Gura barely streams yet she's popular
How about we send a loli that streams!?
Would explain her lack of singing talent

>>101526417
nah, practically it's all chuubas, but they focus on hololive

>>101526421
are you frustrated?

>>101526332
Doesn't ERB have a lot of music

>>101526386
Nimi has been getting the same numbers as Fauna on her good days, I don't think that's really a thing

>>101526395
>>101526429
Naplings still watch bae?

>>101526448
Mori interacting with Mouse, sound the alarms...

>>101526451
Or, maybe, just hear me out for a moment here, just maybe, Youtube recognizes botted subs and culls it like they do for views.

>>101526453
>It's just Bibooseethe
Fucking great argument, guy

>>101526334
PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU, WATCH THE HOMOS

>>101526473
Why not? She's her friend and genmate.

>>101526491
nah

>>101526465
to be frank, ever since Myth debut, there has only been one group of vtubers relevant globally

>>101526453
>Biboo schizo
Like clockwork

>>101526451
>>101526491
Council subs were bots?

>>101526277
I hope the twitter intern gets raped by octavio

>>101526334
>Silent on big HoloEN events
>They don't have to retweet every little thing

>>101526473
No, people told me saplings hate Bae and they were shitting on her

Why do people just tolerate Nimi botting even Biboo gets called out constantly

>>101526451
stop botting the subs they wont get culled

>>101526549
Obviously

>>101526473
I used to, but she hasn't played anything interesting lately.

>>101526453
Now that you mention it Biboo being Cover's designated replacement makes so much sense I'm surprised no one ever noticed it sooner, no wonder Gura refused to collab with her, that would be legitimizing Cover's shitty backstab

>>101526381
I mean she's a better singer every one else in her branch

>>101526573
Her exp33 streams have been good tho (even if I already watched BibooRySGuh)

>>101526549
No, but they thought the rapid incline in subs meant bots. That's why they culled Council.

>>101526334
lmao
just a couple days ago some anon made a comment about how that account is just going to start retweeting normal ass homo tweets

>>101526394
beautiful natty graph

>>101526586
Why would Cover have a designated replacement for her?

>>101526473
Naplings still watch hololive

>>101526451
>Regloss/Flowglow 5 channels
subs culled
>Advent/Justice 4 channels
nothing

>>101526451
Advent didn't get hit either, there's things you can do to help avoid getting hit, which Saba, Nimi, and Advent seem to have managed, but it's still a litle rng.
A single channel versus multiple seems to help to

>>101524820
I think you suck as a person.

>>101525541
Feels weird, at the same time it's cool and all, I can't help but cringe, but oh well, I guess that's Kojima in a nutshell

>>101526473
Obviously not all naplings but there is always some overlap. Naplings also funnel into homos.

>>101526597
I already watched Mori's and started my own playthrough, so I'm not interested in watching anyone else.

>>101524763
All I'm saying is it's fine for people like Noel or Ina or Kronii to do what they does on the side because they're not quitting and actually staying. That's the difference. You can moonlight all you want as long as you stay in the company.

>>101526473
Promise ladies

>>101525921
who exactly is replacing them and how?

>>101526605
At some point the Fujo intern will just start liveposting Homos

>OH MY GOSH KSKSKSKSKSKS MY OVARIES EXPLODED GOSH JURARD IS SO FUNNY YAAAAAAS
>oh also FWMC are having a birthday 3D live
>YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS OCTAVIOOOOO

It’s over for HoloEN huh…

>>101526473
I do, depends a bit what she plays, it's hard to keep up with all the long playthroughs

>>101526473
Yes? Why?

>>101524733
>Brat discord

Every time I see this image being posted I feel like I have to open an ouija board and ask is bvtm with us in this thread

>>101526664
promise them what?

>>101526610
Because she submitted her resignation

>>101526408
mythkids my beloved

>>101526683
Children

>>101526522
>She's her friend
Ehhhhh

>>101526478
>ens #1 interacting with vshojo is good now
GRIM

>>101526685
Then why is that considered a backstab if she planned to leave first

>>101526685
In 2022 ?

>>101526681
wouldn't BVTM be the most likely to be the shitposters who don't agree with what Bae, literally a girl in Hololive, has to say?

>>101526704
sound the trumpets, everyone gonna return their All for One tickets...

Saba's design is cute!

>>101526655
where?

>>101526699
Say no more

>>101526681
You dont have to ask
That retard is always here posting from Portugal

Even nerissa's lateat flop mogged this in less than 7 hours

>>101526719
bvtm would most likely be the shitposter that xhe thinks would get the most (you)s

>>101524733
They keep digging their own grave. Bae should've been harsher.

COME ON BAE YOU'RE THE ONLY HOLO IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING COMPANY STREAMING RIGHT NOW, THE. ONLY. ONE. INCLUDING JP AND ID

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU AT 4.5K, EVEN SHIORI WAS A 7K IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS

>>101526448
lost what
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1936756804601655490

>>101526743
>Not on IRyS' channel

>>101526668
Dev_Is and those from upcoming audition

>>101526719
>wouldn't BVTM be the most likely to be the shitposters
there you go

>>101526736
>1k funnel
Damn, that's big.

>>101526710
Because preparing a soulless replacement for you as if you're nothing but a mascot instead of a living, breathing human is disgusting behaviour, instead of burying loli designs out of respect for what Gura has achieved as the GOAT they decided to try and transfer her fame to other characters they could control. Well too bad Saba is retaking what belongs to her and doing it all again.

>>101526772
>Shilled in front of thousands on her channel and on her twitter

>>101526681
Naplings are attacking the brrat discord to deflect from the fact that Nimi showed her true greed by working on her new character/channel while in hololive.

well? are you gonna buy the saba merch?

4M global gold watching Palmeiras losing to fucking Inter Miami

>>101526605
I mean, it's a birthday week.

>>101526334
fujo staff should retweet saba's debut honestly, it'd be good for them

>>101526473
not me

>>101526769
Yakuza is like one level above more interesting to watch than Deltarune.

>>101526050
I may be too used to the Gura design but the cat ears break up her silhouette and give her a sharp egirl impression I don't associate with her personality (soft, sort of sassy). But we'll see.

>>101526792
That's how companies work. If you leave, your employer will need to find a replacement.

Now that Raora has the most subs she is the true leader of Justice.

I don't get it, so what was Sakuna/Nimi/Saba supposed to do? Just like, have no exit plan whatsoever and leave without any planning?

>>101526626
Seems like they watch everyone except Kiara

>>101526806
i'll take 3 saba dinos

>>101526729
>Still best friends with vwhores while in the walled garden
Its a major red flag anon after so long she's started interacting with them again

>>101526671
It's been over since vesper left

>>101526792
Phasecuck melty

>>101526743
ennacuck you gotta try harder, the new schizos are more creative, energetic and get more (You)s than you.
If you don't keep up we will have to let you go.

>>101526851
sorry, best I can do is women's purse in the shape of a bucket

Wow, it really is interesting that the King Engine is nowhere to be seen now that there are no NijiEN streams happening at the moment, right?

>>101526730
Saba might have actual good rigging. I'm not ready for that

>>101526804
where the funnel?

>>101526769
why are you capslocking

zero tourists are going to tune into yakuza 5 part 5 bear hunting edition

>>101526730
That's cute, I don't get the detractors saying it's not simple enough

>>101526776
i'm having trouble understanding how you're drawing the line between some older having no subscriber growth to newer gens replacing them.
holo doesn't want to replace anyone, they want to expand the fanbase with different niches. that's why pushed for dev_is to do homocollabs and are now pushing them as a group/whole gen when the homo push failed.

>>101523554
>It would just be a loose collection of chuubas doing their own thing in their little corners.

While I don't think its gonna be a malicious thing like some speculate, its hard as hell out there in that indie mess. Most, even super popular vtubers usually do one of two things, keep to themselves and fade bit by bit, or band together through a coalition or corpo of some size, because its the truth that congregating together gets more eyes on people - "what's that group doing?" - is a crowd drawer more than just a solo entity unless you get on an huge artist level.

>>101526196
>whenever she wants
Pretty sure you can count every collab on 1 hand

>>101526844
Unironically, yes. Anybody who's worked a real job would know much we look down on people who job hop. It's borderline evil behavior. They had more than enough money they could have rested on their laurels for a few months. If they really were worried then they could have done graduation merch so at least the company gets a cut.

>>101526831
This isn't a company this is an agency, agencies that replace their talents by trying to market the replacement as "the same, but better" are black agencies.
>>101526844
According to the corpo drones in this thread they should've just retired (off what, all the money Cover sucked up to pay for homos and holoearth?) and moved on

>>101526880
I don't know. I just posted that for a closer look.

>>101526867
Sub 1.5k members

>>101526910
>agencies that replace their talents by trying to market the replacement as "the same, but better" are black agencies.
Where did Cover market Biboo as "Gura but better"?

>>101526878
The engine always starts at niji hours and any Holo talent who streams during that time gets the bots bleed into their stream as well ...

>>101526700
Literally watch streams.

>>101526844
I think so? I think they don't know either, and they see any attempt to success or staying on the same work line while not working in the company as a "betrayal"

>>101526878
Hm, decent catch, but there are. Although I think Rosemi has been engined the least. Millie has been hit plenty though.

>>101526880
He clearly gained 6 viewers just after the 10:25 mark. Not a single good faith poster left in this thread.

>>101526908
as someone that works a real job, please stop trying to force a square peg into a round hole, it gives me second hand cringe

>>101526908
>s. Anybody who's worked a real job would know much we look down on people who job hop.
Yeah, and anybody who's worked a job knows that a company is not loyal to their employee and will fuck them over if it gets them more money.
> If they really were worried then they could have done graduation merch so at least the company gets a cut.
Gura literally did a re-release, it was only Fauna who didn't. And to be quite frank, I think Gura is worse off for doing one, at least Fauna didn't make people get FOMO and then release even more merch after that.

>>101526933
>loli
>that streams
When did they not?

>>101526844
Schizos are angry at their success
They wanted them to fail but are stuck crying here pissing themselves instead

Holofags constantly claiming how Hololive is winning and how everything is great while also nonstop seething at ex-Holos is honestly hilarious.
You guys are like those MAGA tards kek

>Biboo on break
>the schizo is still seething
mental illness.

>>101526277
>>101526334
jesas
hololive will fucking die from toxic femininity from within

>>101526933
hundreds of gura vs biboo catalog threads prove that most people are under that impression

>>101526933
Chumpeds somehow think Gura hates Biboo so they try to find reasons to make her look bad as well ....

But we know that gura never cared about anything because she didn't have the mental energy to deal with such drama and was busy figuring out how to empty chumpeds pockets


She just got her debut announced and the next day we hear she is releasing merch....

>>101526908
>job hop
Fakest retard I've heard

is this samefag chain or plain retard arguing with the schizo? because the premise of the argument is already a shitpost like "replacement" and "grifting"

>>101526976
Kek you're delusional. So Cover cannot release another loli-like model ever? And she not supposed to stream?

>>101526908
Average holobrony ladies and gentlemen

>>101526908
Now you're just trying way too hard.
This angle isn't it, take a break and try something else. You've still got a few days to think of something before the debut

>>101527030
If Cover had any dignity or respect for Gura they wouldn't release any other loli models. No one did it as good as her and no one else they hire ever will.

>>101526901
Bro, cover name dropped Marine in the financial report, because she's the next top subbed after Gura is gone

>>101527010
Uh-oh holojeet melty

>>101526996
yeah once you notice how they act you cant not notice the jewish style tricks

>>101526908
Are you trying to copy the anons from before because your typing style reveals you're retarded

>>101526908
>A fucking Samurai declaring his loyalty to a feudal lord
>Sits on his bosses shoes at night to keep them warm.
>Gets fired because his boss didn't even know his name and doesn't want to pay some faggot to sit on his shoes.

>hundreds of gura vs biboo catalog threads
>most people
and phase connect is the number 1 corpo in the world

>>101527028
i honest to god don't think about gura vs biboo, but the effort is commendable trying to keep it going for this long

The simple fact that is anyone who of releases debut merch is a grifting greedy whore who should of be antiied.

You does'nt see this shit happening in Hololive because our HoloLivers aren't greedy whiteoid cunts

>>101526854
I'm holding all ten of my red flags, I'm about to fly away if I wave them too hard...

>>101527058
Is Gigi then gura killer!?

>>101527108
This is what corpo drones actually believe

>>101526334
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1937327315241017415
there's more

>>101527108
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>101527108
don't get so rowdy phasebro

>Bae is streaming
>Holobronies are melting down at Saba and Nimi instead of watching their talents
Actually grim.

>>101527108
Oh no the 3 pointed finger meme

>>101526334
Sorry but anyone who doesn't support da boyiz in the current year is not a real Holo fan

>>101527124
nta but thats Hebe you fucking retard

>>101527146
phaecucks are raiding and throwing their feces in every direction.
ftfy

>>101527146
Box doko? Nobody is streaming and the box can only donate Bae 2K? (assuming her core audience is 3k)

>>101527146
>watching Bae

>>101526851
>>101526730
Where are we getting the full design? I thought we only saw a partial

Nosterdamus here: ww3 is gonna start soon

>>101526334
>>101526277
the guy needs all the help he can get
handcam birthday stream and is the only homo streaming
grim

They real reason why we Holobros feel icky about Fauna, Gura, Shachi, etc. is because instead of standing on their own and starting from scratch they keep using their Holo identities in subtle ways and their PL accounts to advertise them.
Fauna even repurposed her PL for her new persona and Gura used her PL to advertise herself witch is a big yikes.

>>101527083
Despite being 0.6 percent of the audience phasepags create 90% of the drama

It’s the same schizo like last time

>>101525543
>Grooming fan
>Can't sell tickets concert
it doesn't seem to work

>>101527108
Sit the fuck down phasecuck you can't afford anything

>>101527204
This is all speculative fan art so far.

>>101527219
Is he fat? His hands look kind of fat.

>>101527221
If Cover can't do the right thing like VShojo and give them the IPs that they made big in the first place, this is what the girls have to resort to. Don't blame them, blame the corpo.

>>101527204
these are all guesses so far. we've only seen her outline and bits and pieces

>>101526334
>first almost full EN collab with a new gen that just debuted that GurAme planned?
>we sleep
>2 view homo schedule?
>YABBA DABBA DOOOO
I really don't get it desu. Who's responsible for that account?

>>101527276
He's a gay internet asian.
Guess.

>>101527221
And we phasefans love to sniff each other's putrid body stench

>>101527138
>>101527265
>random Phase deflection
I'm a real Hololive fan and probably has been for longer than you, obsessed faggots. I've been on /vt/ since Myth's debut

>>101527196
1K are from Nimi kek

>>101527316
you don't fit in

>>101526605
they already casually chatting with them before

>>101527196
why do you think tourists are going to tune into yakuza 5 part 5 ?

>>101527369
Have they ever interacted?

>>101527221
Now that's stupid
When you work at a company, you can put that work experience in your resume for your next career
It's the vtuber corpos that are black for not allowing this

>>101527316
That would be impressive since the board wasn't created yet

Cover bootlickers are sweating bullets, stock markets are crashing down, and more graduations are just around the corner. Saba's debut is happening on June 28, and the Indie avengers are set to assemble. DORYAA

>>101527393
No.

>>101527423
Why not?

>>101527417
>Indie avengers
phasefag

>>101527286
>>101527267
>>101526851
It seemed like there was a pretty defined consensus with a lot of these motifs which is why I asked

Phasekeks are real uppity when nimi and saba completely mog everything their entire company has ever done

>>101527441
Nimi is vegan

>>101527446
All consistent elements are what is in the video.

>>101526908
how can you type this and not spontaneously combust out of cringe

>>101527417
I figured you guys would have learned your lesson the last few times especially after the concerts thing but I guess you're just asking for more grudgeposting

Qrd on why it's okay for corpos to do debut merch but not indies?

>>101527524
Qrd?

Recent non-stop graduations made me realize that Holo fans are not different from nijisisters whatsoever. So much pathetic vitriol and impotent rage at girls who decided to quit their cult!
Sad!

>>101527456
they just spent a ton of money on offKai and the only thing anyone is going to remember is that their fans smell like shit

Whats the over/under saba streams longer than dooby?

>>101527441
Probably because shipfaggots are psychotic shipping one bitch who doesn't stream with someone else just because of their past

>>101526808
Did they retweet this or are you looking for excuses for your Homo garbage?

>>101527552
checked

>>101527524
Corposlop = good
Anything that challenges corposlop = bad
Holodrones are the nintendies of vtubing

Is the Holo vs Holo posting getting worse?

>>101527552
it's really sad, mr. president

>>101527417
Lazy whores banding together kek
Good riddance. They're the disgrace of Holo ruining the reputation of the dedicated talents who put in the effort and take their work seriously.

>>101526956
>>101526971
>>101527026
>>101527036
>>101527044
>>101527079
>>101527082
>>101527492
thanks for the (you)s, guys :)

>>101527077
>jewish style tricks
are we talking about hololive or fauna and gura?

>>101527584
Phase and their small dog syndrome

Is it spreading?
even random jp indies got hit by it now

>>101527456
? Phasekeks love Saba and Nimi thoroughbeit since they see them as the weapon against Hololive.
Phasekeks and ex-holokeks are our(HoloChads) enemies.

>>101527595
No problem. Happy to help the unemployed. Don't spend it all in one place.

>>101527600
It all comes from nijiJP in the first place, why not?

>>101527595 (me)
Im trans btw

>>101527219
All that shilling just for a sub 2K birthday
The SC are grim for a birthday

>>101527584
we holokeks shitting on Saba does not count because she lost the blue dorito privilege.

>>101527595
Happy to oblige bby

>>101527603
Kys phasekek

>>101527584
Sabakeks and Nimikeks are not HoloLivers anymore.
Seethe and cope indyshitter

>>101527644
I mean that's better than Raora's anniversary unarchived karaoke frame....

>>101527595
How does this work? You trade (you)s for giftcards?

>point out phasefag manufactured holo vs holo
>shitposting increases
i'm noticing

>>101527417
You've already got a cleaner screen running on the catalog right now, why are you posting your disgusting screen? Make an effort Flip anon, that's not the way to improve the quality of life in your country

>>101525545
>cope

So that's it? Just like that?
Saba winnered?
Nimi winnered?
Dooby winnered?
Shachi winnered?
Myth winnered?
Promise winnered?
Advent winnered?
Justice winnered?
Yagoo winnered?
Phase losted?
Niji losted?
Vshojo losted?
Grim.

>>101527697
Raora anniversary SC was a sub 50k yens?

>>101527524
Hololive logo good, everything else bad
Large multi millionaire company releasing more merch to sell so they can be even richer GOOD
Independent streamers releasing merch to make their own money is BAD
My favorite corporation GOOD
Independent workers BAD
All hail corporations, our true owners and producers of all things I personally enjoy
Death to people that make content without a company logo (that I like) sponsoring them

>>101527772
Saba winning is never grim.

>>101527595
Good job

>>101527772
Phasesissies... your girls are headed towards prostitution, at least they'd probably pay to watch

we phaseGODS love nimi and saba

>>101527772
>Grim
*Grem

>>101526844
It's like being a general, you either retire quietly and maybe pop up on a talk show every so often or you get court martials.

>>101527834
>Phasesissies... your girls are headed towards prostitution
Hey, Ive been suggesting this for a while. I dunno why they are still not just doing porn. Wouldn't they just straight up steal Vallure's mindshare?

Does this unit have a name yet? They do a lot of stuff together

>>101527869
No we don’t. We are allied with our fellow holobros. Fuck grifters.

Man Death Stranding 2 looks so good... I wish I had a PS5. When do you think PC release is coming? Probably in a year right?

OUR ALLIANCE IS UNSTOPPABLE

>>101527909
I'll name it robert

>>101526908
Never seen employment larp before lmao

>>101527909
Yes, it’s Indie Avengers of course

>>101527885
I don't know what shithole you are from but generals in my country are usually respected

>>101527909
>They do a lot of stuff together
Name one.

>>101527909
It literally says "unofficial fan hosted"
It has nothing to do with them
they likely don't even know this is happening

domo, saba desu

>>101527909
>Iron man (debut on the 28th)
>green Captain America
>yellow Spider-Man
>Nigga Falcon
>Ant Man

>>101527957
Shit, that's hilarious. DokiMint get shoved into practically everything Nimi related and I find it pretty amusing because it looks like when a child puts his Goku toy with his Transformer toy and says they're best friends

HoloX collab or Luna solo Repo?
hmm

>>101527991
GOKU AND OPTIMUS ARE NAKAMA FUCK YOU

>>101527958
The only thing I wish she had is a bigger ahoge.