>RESPECT MY COLLAB DECISI--ACK

>>101550928 (OP)
>kiara overlap
nice try

>>101550928 (OP)

>lowest subs in her gen
>lowest views in her gen
>all of ID shits on her
>all of justice quickly over taking her

im sure those collabs were worth it lmao

>>101551860
>all of Justice overtaking her

Damn, you serious?

>>101552017
Nah, he's making shits up because no one bite his bait thread.

>>101552017
>>101552100
look at the numbers mason

LOOK AT THE NUMBERS

really though look at the subs lmao

>>101552017
>>101552100
Shiori Novella 655,000
Raora Panthera 539,000
Elizabeth Rose Bloodflame 538,000
these two will shortly, gigi and cc not as soon

>>101552017
No, Justice flopped numberwise. Notice how you don't get numberbait threads about how Justice is going to overtake anyone because all their subs and numbers are bad. It's all Myth vs Promise vs Advent.

shiori has had 3k-6k ccv for a long time any1 who thinks anything below 10k ccv is bad is a retard most vtubers never hit 4digit ccv.

>>101551860
Apart from the ID thing which still isn't true, the rest has always been true since before she collabed. If anything, collabing brought life to her dead channel through "no press is bad press".

>>101552851
She learned the art of hate marketing from Jurard

>>101550928 (OP)
She’s still doing absolutely fine in supercharts, and I’m guessing merch too. Fact of the matter is that the collabs have barely made any noticeable dent in her views; she’s basically at the same place she was at before

the stars collabs are so infrequent (5 over 3 months) even if people dont watch them they just watch the other streams only deranged retards are still crying over this.

>>101550928 (OP)
Isn't that pretty good for a holoen member on long rpg part 9

>>101555344
I wouldn't say it's good but it's not too far off normal numbers for anyone who isn't very popular

>>101552851
Using controversy to market yourself is never good longterm. Manufacturing controversy regularly to market yourself would be a bad idea to begin with in a sanitized space like cover.

calling stars collabs controversy sounds like something that deranged nutcase ernie would say they need help.

>>101550928 (OP)
Since no one in this thread bothered to post this, here:

>>101557548
still wack gigi shits on her

What? What's wrong with pokemon?

>>101557548
Was she the only one streaming during that?

>>101551860
>lowest subs in her gen
>lowest views in her gen
I wonder why

>>101558244
>Holo vs Holo
Also, that's just not true lol

>>101550928 (OP)
I can't believe she ruined herself for Jurard of all people. I'd been fine with Bettel and Flayon, but Jurard is a fucking cancer she should of known to stay away from.

What point are you even trying to make? She didn't even say this by the way. Get your quotes right, retard-kun.

>>101552100
novelcuckbros...

>>101558968
The fans are insecure and looking for an outlet, you're going to see a lot more Holo vs Holo