Thread 101593798

>Everything is fine
>I love everyone
>My team and manager were awesome
>Nothing will change after i leave
>But i'm terminating my contract
So why leave then?

>>101593798 (OP)
>be under a contract where part of your earnings go for a company that doesn't really do much to push your streams
OR
>be an indie and have the same viewership AND keep all your earnings

>>101593798 (OP)
A geega fan gave the whole rundown but the tl;dr is
>Geega is anal about micromanagement and wants to control every little detail of her brand
>Having to deal with Vshojo was an extra step between her and her projects/merch that she didn't want to deal with anymore
>Vshojo's been fucking up on the merch front a lot

So she just left to handle things herself since apparently there's good alternatives to vshojo now with stuff like uwumarket or some bricky thing

>>101593798 (OP)
Literally who? I swear which nijisanji is this again??

>>101593919
>Love micromanaging yourself
>Join group that manages your shit for you
It took her nearly two years to realize this was a bad idea?

>>101594774
Sometimes you gotta try letting go of some things to see if it's what works for you or not.

>>101594774
People who love to micromanage themselves really just have difficulty trusting others to do their best work. Ideally the micromanager finds someone that can do better than themselves. However the micromanager can't resist butting in.

>>101593798 (OP)
>Geega
Who?

>>101594774
>talent freedom
>not free
sounds like a vshocuck problem

>>101593798 (OP)
BLACK COMPANY

>>101593798 (OP)
>wishes remaining members farewell
>thanks manager she personal worked with
>doesn't thank Vshojo
>"nothing changed when I joined"
You just got to learn to notice the things not said. Looks like it wasn't all "just business" but done also out of genuine anger.

>>101593919
vshojo fixed their merch issue half a year ago, that's specifically a big reason why ama joined. AND geega also just said neither she or mata left due to merch. the other points are valid
she's a control freak and that's not necessarily a bad thing when you're self-employed but it won't always mesh with an employer even if they're not super hands-on. this isn't an absolute shock to me for that reason, it's a shame but not a shock and it makes sense that she'd want to at least try being part of an org out to see if she liked it whether it was going to be forever or not

>>101593798 (OP)
Who?

>>101596906
The only one of those that could be perceived as negative is the last one, and she meant that her content didn't change after she joined, and it's not going to change now that she's left.

>>101593798 (OP)
Ex-vshoujo members are now required to run damage control after silvervale

>>101593798 (OP)
she left without addressing the allegations

geega only inclined due to knowing vsj management irl and orbiting zentreya and now she's leaving, it's just business

>>101593798 (OP)
she’s single now and that goes against vshojo contract terms, all talents must be in a relationship

It's funny watching him try to stir shit up only for people to have a sincere discussion.
Love my FBI agent wife but she's a micromanager at heart and would probably be better off indie. Vshojo mostly benefits cute retards like Henya and Michi who really need the help.

>>101593798 (OP)
Probably internal memo that they're going public so she's leaving while she can.

betting she sign to work for the company that funds, viewbots, and enables every shit youtuber that's been astroturfed nonstop for the last decade

>>101593798 (OP)
>So why leave then?
The only reason she joined Vshojo was too boost her numbers, which it did to an extent until she fucked it up with the GTA RP shit.
Now she has no reason to stay

>>101597699
If she was a bad fit in Vshojo, why the fuck would she join Hololive?

>>101597394
She needs to work on actually being entertaining rather than talking about drama or secret corporate stuff

>>101596905
What legal support could you even provide in this case? Those claims are legally legitimate, copyright is a horrible concept that gives the illusion of being good via some parties not going after cases of infringement, but the people filing claims would be 100% correct in the eyes of the law

>>101598096
I mean... her channels were restored because the claims weren't legitimate. it was a targeted attack timed for maximum damage as it was immediately after a music video release and during her subathon from someone who didn't even own any of the clips being claimed. the goal was to stress her out, damage her channel, with a potential bonus of trying to get her to doxx herself to get it all back
there's been creators who have claimed reacts that make it to her youtube and had the stuff taken down and they have every right to do so, but that's not what happened here

>>101598551 (me)
forgot to mention that was the vod channel owner yes but they tweeted that almost immediately without actually letting legal get to the bottom of exactly who sent the claims and why. that's like accepting a twitch mod's reason of why their streamer was banned for -generic reason twitch gives- with no detail instead of listening to the streamer who got twitch to give a specific timestamp of the problem
anyway vshojo's legal is still useful for others, just potentially not for geega

>>101596905
vshojos lawyers literally fixed that problem in your screenshot

>>101593798 (OP)
Unironically who?

>>101599940
zentreya's nepohire

>>101599940
Holo EN5 new member

>>101600525
Ah I guess no one learned not to nepo hire

>>101593798 (OP)
Something tell me that if you fulfill some goals you can keep her model, she did the bare minimum to keep the model and don't renew the contract, now she keep the brand, the model and the audience

>>101601822
The model was hers to begin with, genius

>>101601822
Nazuna never fucking streamed and was an active detriment to the Vshojo brand.

She still left with the model and all of its assets.

>>101596905
>>101598551
>>101598778
>There are no evil people trying to claim her content as theirs to hurt her
>It was literally that
Yeah, Ezzy was running their mouth on twitter and reddit and just wanted attention without any idea what was actually happening while Mouse wouldn't say much because she knew it might become a legal matter and couldn't. VOD editor that barely did any editing other than splitting content in VODs really over stepping.

>>101601822
All Vshojo members own their IP and get to keep it even if their contracts are terminated.

>>101601822
This is not phase

>>101594774
are you actually expecting a woman to accept when they are wrong?

k.

>>101593798 (OP)
I mean it says right there
>"nothing changed when I joined, nothing's changing as I leave"
Basically they were unironically worthless for her, so why stay and keep giving Vshojo a cut?

>>101607875
>As far as my streaming goes nothing will change from this
Thats the context for your quote + she literally thanked the manager Vshojo provided for her so it's not like they did nothing for her. Maybe instead of being a dumb dramafag you could listen to her actually talking about her actual reasons.

>>101593919
>some bricky thing
redbubble dropshipper with a bunch of 2views

>>101593919
>Geega is anal

>>101593798 (OP)
Difference in direction, I guess?
I don't know, it's the standard reason

>>101594774
Most people who apply for corporations don't do it because they want management but because they want branding.
That's why so many girls use VShojo as a footstool, getting themselves exposed through the company and then terminating their contract once they have enough viewers.

VShojo doesn't seem to mind, but I wonder how it financially impacts the company when your employees use you like a talent seeking firm only good to get their name out into the world and then leave.

>>101610965
associating yourself with vshojo would be harmful to your brand though

>>101610965
>VShojo doesn't seem to mind,
I mean, it's a mutual exchange of clout given that Vshojo leans towards more popular Vtubers. Having someone big-ish associated with their brand is a positive, even if it is temporary.

>>101611013
Maybe from the perspective of a phasecuck or numberchimp but most people don't care and most vtubers that join Vshojo end up bigger than they were without Vshojo.

>>101593798 (OP)
*overdramatic concernfagging like I am a nijianti*
Get Kurosan OUT of this BLACK company oooh woo is us!!

>>101594774
sometimes, you have to learn the hard way.

>>101593798 (OP)
oh it because she something to piss off the rat

>>101596905
>Cons: nothing

>three fucking years
>nearly an entire presidential term
>he's still crying about the meanie kson

>>101593798 (OP)
>So why leave then?
new assignment from mossad