It’s up.
https://www.youtube.com/live/pYVEIX7nSEs

the new queen of indies is upon us

She is going to make holopags seethe.

>>101644696 (OP)
80k incoming

>>101644696 (OP)
>1200 waiting 35 hours before the stream
How does she do it?

>>101644760
only one seething here is you

>>101644761
200k+ easily

>>101644792
Mandate of Heaven (America).

>>101644760
She's gonna make phasefags seethe so hard when she says she supports trans rights and BLM

Saba please turn off the shitty xp thingy.

>>101644881
She is good friends with marimari_en, nice try tho holopag.

>>101644760
>>101644696 (OP)
I'm a chumbud for life but fugg this design is such a letdown

>>101644892
Why? It shows who donated the most through superchats?

>>101644761
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD

>>101644811
Didn't she not even break 100k on her graduation?

>>101644935
No, it shows who spams the most.

>>101644921
What are you gay?

>>101644921
>I'm a chumbud for life
No I don't think so.

>>101644975
It’s a falseflagging holopag. They are getting desperate lately, because holoEN views have been ATROCIOUS, also Kiara‘s latest post and the IryS deleted twitter post.

>>101644975
The design is so bad it's literally just Fuwamoco in a bland generic white dress, I can't name anything interesting or unique or find any kind of identity about it. fox ears, highlights, frills, ribbons, don't have anything to do with mackerel. It's just a random mishmash. She should have went american cowboy yeehaw gremlin or a goth loli instead. My penis can draw a better design than Saba's.

HOLOCAUST BEGINS IN 34 HOURS NIGGERS SAY GOOD BYE TO YOUR YURI FUJOS AND BARNEY BITCHES

>>101645038
>deleted Twitter post
You're really still doing this after you had 2 whole threads deleted and like 20 of your samefag replies were deleted before that thread was nuked?
https://x.com/irys_en/status/1938318001436258314

>>101644696 (OP)
Too many catalog seething dogs one guying and spinning the holo vs holo crap for an honest discussion about Saba. It's best to talk about it some where else.

>>101644894
Phasebeggars coping hard kek Queen Saba will never collab with your shitty corpo

The lack of Saba porn is saddening

>>101645084
That somewhere else is holotower.org
Make sure to drop by and express your opinions and share your most fun posts!

>>101645088
It’s only good when Mint collabs with your black company, right holonig? Kys

>>101645092
I love blonde hair and hate gray hair. But somehow I like Gura's design more than Saba's....

>>101645084
Don’t worry anon, in about 34 hours you can talk about her in her chat, many times a week. Leave this shithole traitor board behind. 90% of the niggers on this board wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for gura paving the way.

>>101645099
Literally no one in this entire thread brought up Mint, the fuck are you seething about?

It's hilarious how people try to act like she's the enemy of hololive and idols and all the girls
Absolute retards latching onto her. I assume it's liggers.

Not watching your shitters Phasetroons

>>101644921
no, you are a FAGGOT for life

>>101644921
the design is shit but god this fanart is pure cunny

>>101645193
Sen was when she was at her cutest. The difference is voice is insane.

all the seething troons can say is

H-HER DESING IS BAD!!!

lmao get fucked

>>101645119
I hate Mint she's a traitor she hangs out with dookie

5 hrs before the charity stream so much for the overlap retards were spewing about lol

>>101645211
I love Gura but yeah the design is....it's rough.

>>101644696 (OP)
Way too much hair

>>101644696 (OP)
My body is ready.

>>101645075
Activity kept going down and down since the hack until recently when we been getting absolutely spammed with bait threads.

>>101645226
It's a fucking 24 hours stream so any overlap wouldn't mean shit anyways. If anything it would help by waking up some people who might not have noticed it.

>>101644921
X to Doubt

>>101645115
Again, what the fuck are you seething about? You're bringing up people no one else mentioned in a thread completely unrelated to them just so you can get mad at them

>>101644696 (OP)
Can't wait for her to stream regularly for a month and then go back to not streaming more than once every 3 months.

>>101645309
Meant for >>101645212

>>101645314
>He thinks she will last a month
Unless she gots full reactslop streamer like she wish could do in holo I give it 2 weeks.

The state of pre-chat jesas... Were are her mods?

Let's just say I am Muhammad.

And Saba is my Aisha.

>all holodrones can come up with is "design bad"
get some help

>>101644964
almost 200k. That's why she's almost guaranteed to get at LEAST 200k for this debut + maybe a couple ten thousand more.

>>101645244
HAHA U Big Gay

>>101645433
Why are you so desperate to defend her that you think that everyone that says anything remotely negative about her is a "holodrone"? It is possible for actual fans to criticize things they don't like

>>101644921
Just remove the kemomimi and dye the hair white. There. Fixed.

>>101645548
1. Get rid of the Fuwamoco ears
2. Get rid of the highlights and the tiny extra pigtails on top
3. Get rid of the ribbons and frills, an oversized t-shirt or an apron would have been cuter
4. Get rid of the whorish bimbo painted nails
5. Make her bangs cover one eye or just go full hime cut on the front

Wallah

I improved that design from a 1/10 to an 8/10.

>>101644921
>>101645193
its literally a blonde cunny, theres no way actual chumbuds dont like it lmao
>the design is shit
Oh sorry that cat ears are offensive to mr. sensitive, after all they are a very bold take on vtuber fashion

>>101645731
im sorry youre gay, but since you think its a 1/10, you should stop watching instead (or stop pretending that you ever did kek)

>>101645152
its phasefags that are mad she didnt go to phaseconnect
There were about 1k catalog threads where they were just wishing for dear life that she'd join (they are retarded) and now are mad that she isn't

>>101645821
The design is extremely generic. She's like a Nekopara reject with tiny hints of Gura. It's ok but not what I want.

>>101644696 (OP)
lol that thumbnail she didn't even try

>>101645821
"oh nyo, someone has a different opinion than me, WAAAA, WAAAAA, MOOOOM PLEASEEEEE MY FEEEWLING AWE HORT ON TE INTERWEEEEEEBBBBBBS WAAAAA"

Make Gura Great Again

>>101645915
>>101644921
>>101645193
>instead of being super-happy and rejoicing to high heaven that she's returned they're complaining about her character design because it doesn't match their "vision" of Gura's cunny form
You entitled fucks. Be grateful that she's back to begin with and stop complaining!

>>101645548
insta hard

>>101646082
Loving someone isn't blindly agreeing with all their decisions. It's caring enough to make sure she reaches her full potential, criticizing when it's needed, that's what true love is.

>>101646114
Maybe on planet retard. Love is doing what you can to make people happy at the expense of oneself.

>>101645821
I don't like unrealistically long hair because it makes the character feel much more like a cartoon character and less like a little girl.

>>101644696 (OP)
I don't like her design.

Not a big fan of the blonde hair (especially considering other ex-Holo EN members redebut with new models with blonde hair, see Nimi and Dooby) and the cat ears are just so out of place.

>in before "she's a catfish" posts despite the fact leaked information explicitly says she's a mackerel

People are going to be hype about her for like two weeks or a month and then she'll lose traction.

>>101647349
So, exactly what she wants?

>>101647520
I don't think she has a clear idea of what she wants.

>>101647548
You have neither watched sen nor gura, ever.

>>101644760
FRRRRRR

>>101647583
If she wanted to get less attention she could've just redebut as Senzawa.
The fact she didn't confirms my theory.

>>101644921
i agree actually

>>101644921

>>101644696 (OP)
Hoping to see actual rigging desu
Proper eye and mouth tracking can do a lot

>>101646114
>It's caring enough to make sure she reaches her full potential,
Well, this is her design now, and nothing you say will change that.

>>101645098
>fun posts
jannies will ACK out tho

>>101646975
This. Extremely long hair ruins the true cunny appeal.

>>101646249
uhh youre retarded

>>101644894
>good friends
Did they even interact?

I hate the cat-fish design, it triggers my autism.

i wish her all the best but my expectations are extremely low

KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI

>>101644696 (OP)
it's not really up

>>101648798
???

>her her her design is bad uh uh uh
This is what grasping at straws looks like.

>>101648880
That's not a nitpick, that's like 80% of the appeal of a Vtuber.

>>101648932
And her design is UOOOOOOOOHmazing

>>101644696 (OP)
Who? I’m sorry anon you have to be more specific about what I’m watching since I only consume hololive content.

>>101644921
Just wait for the lewder outfits later on

>>101649316
Careful anon, you'll summon him.

>>101649316
Just like nimi right? Oh wait.

>>101649397
Nimi is innocent, Gura is an actual pervert who brings this stuff up unprompted.

>>101649419
She will not wear that schoolswimsuit that you keep imagining, pedo.

>>101649468
School swimsuit is prudish, you know she'll want a bikini

topless with boy trunks and a baseball cap

>>101649490
I think you are in the wrong thread, the shondo thread is a few blocks down. Gura never was pedobait, her whole thing is just being silly and drunk.

>>101649529
>muh pedo
Someone post the diaper webm

>>101644696 (OP)
excited to grudepost against all the retards who say she hated being a loli

>>101649592
That was, quite literally, exactly one retard.

>>101649609
it was at least 2

I have my bots ready anons, Im thinking a few minutes after stream starts to slowly trickle them in to not be obvious about it being bots.

>>101649609
Crazy how much they spam and you can tell it's the same person too. Ngl it's fun to get a reaction from people.

>>101644792
bots

>>101649529
I know this is bait but I am still choosing to bite.

>>101645731
Gura had highlights, pig tails, and painted nails lol just kill yourself, false flaggot

>>101646082
Why is CC always a mean cunt

>>101644921
Wait for debut for your nonsense

>>101644696 (OP)
cat shark was by far her worst model.

>>101650837
Imagine being this much of a faggot

For the design
+still cunny
+still sea themed
+cute kani mascot/fan self insert
+feet
+cute dress
+fat tail
+fishe
-blonde-blue hair don't match too well
-gura half pigtail and ribbon don't match, just choose one.
-cat ears works as an accesory, if she is a catfish now just don't use fluffy ears.
Still waiting face reveal if she is :3 like usual i can live with the new model

>>101644696 (OP)
Is she taking the tako time timeslot? It makes sense if her target audience is a bit younger than before.

>>101644696 (OP)
Every redebut design has been a watered down version. Hololive has better feedback with Jap artitst.
But to be fair after HoloX the designs have been pretty mid.

>>101651744
Nimi's design is fine,I'd argue going for a simpler design did her wonders in terms of having a more recognizable silhouette. Dooby is a tad bit too close to her Amelia design and it's not the best shit ever but it's okay.
Saba's design doesn't seem to be too complicated or overdesigned but lacks a central visual leitmotif, at one point you gotta choose if you want to be a cat or a fish.

>>101649490
Sukumizu is a fetish appeal you dumb zoomer nigger. God, I fucking hate you faggots. Not everything is about maximizing skin exposure.

>>101651942
Proper mesugakis wear side-tie microbikinis

>>101644696 (OP)
buy an ad

I just don't like the blonde cat girl ears with the blue fish tail because it triggers my color autism

>>101645651
>they don't like
masks off anti, holodrone

pedo's should rope themselves. thanks.

Also sabot debut is going to be shit. will not be watching.

>>101652016
based and correct

>B-b-but her design
>She won't gonna stream
Geez so many seething Holocucks. I can't wait for her to kill the whole HoloEN, making all of holoEN whores completely irrelevant.

I don't get why she is coming back, at least not with a paid vtuber model, looking at Sen and Gura it doesn't look like she actually enjoys streaming after the first few months

>>101644921
I agree a bit. I hate twintails.

2PM Pacific??
Why couldn’t it have been:
30min countdown at 5:30
5 minutes of tech problems
1 hour of debut
10 minutes of stalling then

“Oh hey, there’s a stream for Steve Irwin’s charity, that’s a good cause. If you have an extra $5 you can toss in, click that tiltify link.”

Send 100,000 people to Calli's stream
All goals instantly met.

Even better, you feed the people that want there to be no rivalry and every rrat is a delusion.
You feed the people that desperately want them to be enemies at war who say it was all just to flex.
Tongues are wagging all over because it’s so unexpected.
Every body wins including the animals.

>>101658231
>mori
Why would she raid her rapist? The only raid she should get is from the fbi.

>>101644921
>t. massive faggot

>>101644696 (OP)
Good morning Sen :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CHs4x2uqcQ&list=RD6CHs4x2uqcQ&start_radio=1

>>101644921
I swear some people just want to be sad and can't be happy to see her return

>>101658920
>return
She graduated 2 months ago so she's barely been gone. 2 months of no streams is normal for Gura. She could still be at Hololive and there would be no difference.

get filtered faggots

>>101659122
I‘m looking forward to her absolutely mindbreaking you for the rest of this year, holopag.

>>101644921
Falseflagging anti seething kek

>>101659184
I'm looking forward to you coping when she streams just as infrequently.

lol
lmao even

>>101659223
She'll stream when she wants, and it will be fine with Chumbuds.
Better than a corpo with required streams while hating their fans. Time to make the donuts.

>>101644921
Then you are a fucking liar.

>>101659338
>Better than a corpo with required streams while hating their fans.
Her fans are the same people why would she stop hating her fans outside Hololive?

>>101659338
>She'll stream when she wants, and it will be fine with Chumbuds.
The chumbuds didn't seem super happy with her lack of streams the past few years

>>101659503
Because she had "holo only“ fans. Those retarded pags (like you) are thankfully gone now. Good riddance.

>>101659568
I've never been a Gura fan

>>101645731
>Wallah
Viola~! ESL detected!

>>101644696 (OP)
saba is a miracle of science

>>101660098
Kino

>>101659503
>>101659338
>>101659223
You are all bullshit. Hololive is a corporation whose ultimate goal is to make money. Although their behavior is different from Niji's, they do not like fans favoring one or some certain talents. Hololive likes fans like Niji's fans, that is, fans of Hololive company and not fans of any talent.
To do that, they need to gradually limit the interaction of vtubers with fans after a sufficient period of activity (about 1 to 2 years). Therefore, limiting or preventing vtubers from streaming is a must.

This is something that is not up for debate because Hololive is not a charity company after all, they work to make money.

Accordingly, vtubers like Gura left and then became independent after a short time, the reason can only be that they do not want to be restricted from streaming anymore.

Gura's words are not completely true. It's obvious that she had always reassured fans that there was no problem with Hololive, only her health. Then suddenly she announced that she had a conflict with the management and graduated. This shows that all of Gura's previous statements cannot be completely trusted, it's highly likely that Hololive told Gura to say that. Many Hololive vtubers have said that the reason 'conflict with the management' is just a common reason given by vtubers before graduation. Regardless of whether the above statement is a form of fan manipulation or not. Even if it is true, it further proves that Gura was speaking from a script written for her before graduation. There's no way for Cover to escape the identity of the talent's word manipulation here, it's just a matter of how much.

>>101644696 (OP)
That's a child.

>>101644696 (OP)
Why is she so ugly?

>>101660568
>Therefore, limiting or preventing vtubers from streaming is a must.
ah yes it was the evil company that told gura to stop streaming even though they make money through her streams. keep coping chumbud

>>101660568
>Therefore, limiting or preventing vtubers from streaming is a must.
>This is something that is not up for debate because Hololive is not a charity company after all, they work to make money.
Then why was Gura the only talent being limited in this way? Nobody was telling Pekora, Marine or Fubuki to stop streaming? You're retarded.

>>101660957
did you read it all. Gura has reduced the number of streams after about two years. And you mean Hololive won't really limit their talent interaction with fans. If so, where will they find viewers for new members. If they let the talent interact with fans, then if the talent leaves, Hololive will become an empty shell.
The method is very clear. EN1 freely streams for the first year to create fans. EN2 appears and EN1 gradually limits streaming as well as actively interacts with EN2. Fans go from fans of EN1 to fans of EN2. EN3 appears and EN2 gradually limits streaming while EN1 goes to the extreme of limiting streaming, also actively interacting between EN2 EN3 EN1. At this point, there is no such thing as an individual fan anymore, only fans of Hololive.

>>101661200
Okay but why isn't this being applied to JP? Why just EN?

>>101661200
This is all really stupid and no company would do this. The whole point of a new gen is to bring in new fans and increase revenue. Why would they replace existing talents with new people if they already have fans supporting that talent? This is all pointless. In the case someone's oshi leaves the whole idea of having a bunch of talents is that they likely have a second favourite streamer within the branch they can watch. Or ultimately they have enough talent that losing one doesn't cause the company to suffer.

>>101661271
JP is the same. Every time a new generation comes out, the old generation who were streaming freely will gradually reduce the number of streams. The main members with many viewers and long-term advertising campaigns for contracts do not count.

>>101661396
They need to do that because otherwise there will only be fans of the talents and no fans of Hololive in general. If the talents leave, the fans will follow. If so, then Hololive is just a charity shell from start to finish.

>>101661492
But there's no guarantee that when their oshi starts streaming less that they will go watch other talents? A lot of chumbud's refuse to watch Bijou and if Bijou was meant to be the replacement for Gura why did Gura overlap Bijou so frequently?

>>101661603
How could I know all the conflicts and turmoil inside Hololive. I just analyze the fact that Hololive is a money-making company and not a charity so that people stop being so delusional.

>>101644921
FAG

>>101661603
>>101661396
>>101661271
And for those of you who still have high expectations for Hololive. The truth is that both Amelia and Fauna rarely streamed for about a year before graduating. And now they stream extremely regularly.

>>101661805
>Dooby
>Stream extremely regularly
KEK

>>101661838
Isn't that right? Didn't she go missing often when she was in Hololive?

>>101644696 (OP)
>>101644760
>Blonde
RUINED

>>101644921
Yeah most of the ex holo redesigns have been let downs. Not bad but step downs from their pls

>>101661880
What about her current streaming schedule is regular?

the number of unique IPs in this thread is no more than 10

Yagoo done fucked up with his gay management people for letting a powerhouse like her get fed up and leave lol, fucking retard

>>101646975
>I don't like unrealistically long hair because it makes the character feel much more like a cartoon character and less like a little girl.
Sameko Saba is even more family friendly than Gura so that is very much intentional. Her indie vtuber design is similar to Kemono Friends that it was designed for maximum cuteness.

>>101649316
>Just wait for the lewder outfits later on
Gura never did a second release of the pedobait daki and was noticeably angry with Cover when she quit. There was something about the direction of Hololive that she really hated.

>>101662186
2 to 3 streams a week is too much compared to 1 to 2 months of disappearance
and can you guys really argue, I feel like I'm arguing with a bunch of woke shit. Even though there are so many obvious things that don't need to be discussed, there are still people who try to find a way to lick the corporation's licks.
I understand that your oshi is still in Hololive. Ok, just know if there is a conflict between your oshi and Hololive company, which side will you stand on. If you stand on Hololive's side then I have nothing more to say.

>>101658231
Early afternoon US time on a weekend is basically peak profit for a vtuber, US + EU + few people who wake up early in Asia

>>101662302
>Gura never did a second release of the pedobait daki and was noticeably angry with Cover when she quit. There was something about the direction of Hololive that she really hated.
If you're implying she had a change of heart when it comes to loli then why is Saba a loli?

>>101662412
Dude stop replying to him he has been shitposting this for MONTHS

>>101662583
Oh is that the Gura outfitschizo?

>>101662412
I am saying that Gura hated the pedobait and that Hololive does have a long history of encouraging sleazy coombait to boost merch sales. Ash Again was unusually grim and there was a lot of anger in her final song.

>>101660568
>It's obvious that she had always reassured fans that there was no problem with Hololive, only her health. Then suddenly she announced that she had a conflict with the management and graduated.
No sudden about it. Just like her 'Ash Again' was almost two years in the making, she's been complaining about management for quite a while. Just that she's smart enough to keep it in membership streams. After all, it's Gura that warned Chumbuds that management posts tweets on her account. Her constantly making a joke of not being a brand risk became a meme. Only thing sudden was her change two years ago after her 'uh oh' tweet on Senzawa account. Because she was on her way out since then.
>Many Hololive vtubers have said that the reason 'conflict with the management' is just a common reason.
Just some cope. It's literally why they left. Unable to give more details due to NDA. And Mumei wanted to be clear that it's the reason for her leaving, not health, in the deleted membership stream.

>>101659503
>Her fans are the same people why would she stop hating her fans outside Hololive?
Not hating the talents, but the new direction of Hololive.

>>101645092
wait till the debut, me and other nsfw artists will milk it dry on day one. At least I know, I will be working on a doujin right after she reveals her full model

>>101659563
>The chumbuds didn't seem super happy with her lack of streams the past few years
Chumbuds knew what's up from her membership streams. She's been frustrated with management for two years.
If talking about /vt/ complaining about the lack of streams? They don't matter. Gura's retention proved otherwise.

>>101662855
voice of reason! thank!

>leaves the "perfect" corpo
>Holofans still latch on to Cover
What is the cope when all the best talents of HoloEN and HoloJP leave....to then do the exact same thing they did in Cover as indies?

>>101663537
>do the exact same thing
But they don't. Coco and Rushia's streams in Hololive were the best. Ex-holos can never match their peak years. This has always been 1000% the case. When they leave Hololive their streams aren't as kino.

Will dooby and nimi breed saba on her debut stream?

>>101666907
Nimi will breed Saba will breed Doob on her debut

>>101666968
So Dooby becomes the daddy of the trio?

>>101666968
>>101667034
Sorry I mean Nimi I drunk-read that backwards

>>101649562
Wait what?
Yes, someone please post

>>101667686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD5ttFDFeQ8

>>101644760
my dick is seething so hard right now