Is Ironmouse and Froot gonna recover from this? Now that Nyan and Silver's side it Zen

You don't know English so you have no idea what they actually tweeted, ESL-chama

Ironrat built her entire persona on being a wholesome chungus while actually being a coldly calculating grifter. It's so fucking obvious in every choice she makes.

I can't wait for the day her real self will leak.

>>101687230
The fake terminal illness is the one that makes me hate her. Sure, be a manipulative whore all you like, but preying on peoples savior complex is vile
I'm glad her bullshit is blowing up in her face

>>101687299
She is always sick or pc not working for Vshojo members, but when fleshies ask her to jump into a collab, she suddenly is ok and pc is working again, see >>100971634 for an example

>>101687299
she has a chronic illness, retard

>>101687334
VShojokeks, explain.

Mom I made another thread

>>101687175 (OP)
What the fuck are Silvervale and Nyanners commenting for? Have they even exchanged words with Zen since leaving? At least Veibae isn't cringe and pretending she cares.

>>101687334
>>101687363
Remember to bump your other 10 threads

>>101687334
>noooooo IM would never lie!!!!
>reality:
LMAO

>>101687430
That doesn't explain anything.

>>101687376
>>101687430
oh no the white knights are here to defend their queen bee monkaw what can i do I'm so scared

>>101687430
holy melty
take your loss like a man. you might wanna take a few days off, you're a bit too upset

>>101687477
I see you took my advice lmao

>>101687334
Welp, this pretty much proves she lies all the time. Would logically follow her terminal illness is fake too

>>101687442
#believeallwomen

>>101687334
fleshie leeching realy is her "yabba dabba doo" moment

>>101687592
you forgot
>cries on stream because she is "dying"

>>101687592
LMAO
the infinite grift loop...

isnt this a TTS tranny

Just a reminder that Zen is actually a good person and helps the community so much from buying vtuber their IP to keep it and helping artists and colllabing with a lot of small vtuber all the time, besides Mouse whose her whole personality is she being sick and fleshie leeching all the time

>>101687818
holy fuck man.....

>>101687334
>>101687818
was mouse always been this bad of a person????
i thought all the log bait was just a meme

>>101687818
I always knew Mouse was a fucking whore.

>>101687818
Holy shit, no wonder she's leaving VShojo, she's a good person.

HOLY KEK, they unfollow each other so long ironlung hope the fleshie treat still love you

>>101688225
>Silvervale called out Ironmouse when she left VShojo
It's just a coincidence, bros. Not gonna happen a 3rd time.

>>101687911
It's been memoryholed because most mouse""""haters"""" are just phasebrowns who don't care to remember anything but their generic muh fake sickness talking point.

But when Silvervale was getting harassed by trannies for playing Hogwarts, Ironrat didn't say shit to defend her to the point people even started calling her out. THEN she came out in "defense" by ranting about how people were pressuring her to speak up and saying stuff like 'the silence is deafening' (I guess that phrase really triggered her). Ultimately her brave and stunning, and stunning and brave "defense" of Silver was mumbling something about how no one deserves to be harassed. Not mentioning Silver's name once, not mentioning of the topic, not condemning the harassers. Nothing, just fencesitting vague bullshit.

When Silvervale left vshojo, she made her thoughts on that fake friend snake pretty clear.

>>101688298
i hate that fag nux as much as the next person, but back then, when the vshojo and nux had a fall out zen was the only good person to apologize publicly

>>101688298
Or when she didn't want to comment on the nijisanji situation with Selen.

>>101687334
>Deleted
Kek, the mouse patrol is something else

>>101687818
>>101687334
>>101688493
this just make me respect zen even more, good on her for leaving that shit hole

>>101687175 (OP)
Bump

>>101689114
thx you

Bump

>>101687175 (OP)
Bunny_gif/ayu also sides with her. Not a good sign if you go by that. Don't read too much into that.

This thread was a nice read with some coffee anons, thank you

oh no my friends are leaving left and right i better show that my cool fleshie friends still love me

>>101687299
for me it's the fact that vshojo and trash taste masquerade as just innocent casual organic friendly relations when they're actually shill fronts for nippon tv and kadokawa

>>101688298
nux is a fag but he was completely in the right back then and ironlung left people vulnerable to attack because she didnt want to look bad

>>101687334
why was that deleted

so we all agree mouse panders HARD to normies/fleshstreamers, but do we have actual evidence that this works financially?
I mean she's making bank, so who's paying her, normies or fans?

>>101690714
an old archive post

>>101690736
you do realize all twitchniggers have to do is stream to earn millions, right? ever heard of ad revenue? they don't need paypigs.

>>101687230
You know, I watched a 2view debut the other day and at one she said she loves watching Mouse and Connor, they're so sweet, etc.

I'm sitting there quietly laughing to myself thinking "oh, if only you knew"

>>101691452
>ad revenue
so the underage hordes, got it
honestly, if you imagine her as more of a burnt out babysitter her overall behavior makes more sense

>>101687430
vshojocuck/frootcuck/mousecuck SEETHE

>>101688298
Yeah you can't really defend what an ugly two faced cunt IM is. Her cuck ATM white knights blindly follow her despite this. It's like a cult of cucks.

>>101687175 (OP)
>Froot
Most likely already gone.

>>101689844
kek

>>101691452
>ever heard of ad revenue
literally pennies, it's so small it's not even statistical noise for most vtubers. One akasupa is worth more than inflicting thousands of hours of ads on people

>>101688225
what went wrong?

>>101687338
I don't care if she's a woman, I can't wait for that bitch to finally get called out for the grifting whore she is.

>>101692511
This but unironically
Zens reveal on what this whore does behind the scenes will be delicious

>>101697400
zen is still friends with her, she won't say shit

>>101687382
Sounds like you never had colleagues or friends you keep in touch with, understandable if gen z.

>>101688225

Mouse is not so wholesomerino after all?? no wayyy

>>101687175 (OP)
Besides the Hogwarts bullying silver stuff, what else has ironmouse done that shows she is a bad person?

>>101697425
>unfollowed on twitter
lol lmao

>>101699958
ISRAEL

>>101691625
If you think the current young generation isn’t tech savvy enough to install an ad blocker maybe you’re dumber than you think they are.

>>101699007
>Besides the Hogwarts bullying silver stuff
How does that one paint Mouse in a negative light? She's basically the only one that made a public statement in Silver's defense. Vei and Nyan didn't even say shit on that topic and Zen sure as fuck didn't either.
https://youtu.be/2CR7xPVM4LE?si=bM3RVI6_qczsyrCT

>>101709718
rewriting history i see, classic mousecuck
she's totally a virgin too and you're not a cuck right?

>>101697400
Why on Earth would you think she's going to expose anyone...? Even if something happened, do you know who you're talking about?

>>101687338
Grifter-itis is a terrible illness indeed. Quite chronic, and contagious

.

>>101687299
Insane you think she could fake that shit while working directly with the Immune Deficiency Foundation

>>101697400
>zen
>is actually a man
>yet somehow not a grifter
ok trannylover

my guess is vshojo finally run out of money
they made the decision to keep mouse and squeeze everyone else

>>101687230
I only watch clips of Ironmous. She’s occasionally funny, but I hear she lies about having a daughter ever since joining VShojo and refers to her as a sister now in order to milk more money out of retards. I find that disgustingly scummy if that’s true.

>>101727692
it's true btw
https://files.catbox.moe/gzuae8.mp4
> My ex-husband was not a nice person, just saying - IM
> I was married and I'm divorced. Aha! Surprise! - IM
> I've said I was married on broadcast though, I always make fun of it, I make jokes about it. - IM
> I guess people just don't believe me *laughs* - IM
> Maybe I said too much - IM
1:20
> "What does your daughter think of your condition?" - chat
> Oh, oh man. It's been very tough on her. - IM
> She knows everything about it. - IM
> She gets very enthusiastic when she sees me so she kinda forgets about the protocol and stuff like that. - IM
> "I don't like that" - dude
> But she's just a kid though! - IM
2:36
> Remember when you were cooking bacon and she was like "oh my god mom, I wanna go and eat some bacon!" - IM
> "Yeah, I'll be talking to ironmouse on facetime or whatever and this kid'll run into the room and see what I've got on camera" - dude
> "And, sometimes she must think I'm a maniac because I'm walking around a room with purple lighting." - dude
> She likes to watch you cook! - IM
> "I don't really know this human that much, but she's around occasionally, she sounds like a great entity." - dude
> "She's raised her well, she's a talented human as well." - dude
> Aww you think so? You think I raised her well? - IM
> "well somebody did" - dude
3:29
> "Is she a mini mouse? Is her personality like yours?" - chat
> "I think she's her own person, but she definitely has been influenced by Ironmouse like creativity, appreciation of art etc." - dude
> She dances ballet, she's very talented! - IM
3:58
> "Talk about the evening of, and go into g r a p h i c detail." - chat
> "What do you wanna know, standard conception right? The ol' D in V style." - dude
> *laughs* what? - IM; "was it not?" - dude; "D in the V?" - IM; "I assume" - dude
> Yes, D in the V - IM
> Listen okay? I got fucked. But I'm divorced, so there's no fucking going on. - IM
7:35

>>101729434
Farewell Anon. You won't be forgotten.

Bump

>>101687382
Veibae too busy slopping on Soda microcock

>>101687299
Niggas still can't comprehend the difference between terminal and chronic

>>101729434
HOLY SHIT LMAO
IMcucks are unbelievable

>>101721881
>A charity organization would never lie for money and publicity
You need to be 18 to use this website

>>101691459
That is the issue. Actual good hearted people fall for these things hook, line and sinker and will end up getting walked all over them. Same happened with so many good people only looking at surface drama clickbait and becomning massive anti niji harassers.

>>101730600
Niji deserves it thoughbeit

>>101729434
I always knew about the secret child thing but never saw this before holy shit. You'd think that with twitter normies obsession with clowning on deadbeat parents (rightfully so) that someone would leak it onto the site where it would spread like wildfire.

>>101730814
So does the pink grifting whore with her fake illness

>>101687818
>>101688493
This sort of behavior really confirms that Zen is obviously a man.

>>101730898
the rumor is, she's not even alive anymore and that is one the reason she sending dmca to anyone digging it.

>>101688298
i mean to be fair, it is incredibly gay to force people to speak up about anything. it's like streamers being pressured to speak up about israel-palestine or BLM or whatever. it's fucking dumb and retarded

>>101731038
a '''friend''' and '''nice person''' should want to speak up to help a coworker, they shouldn't need to be force. don't deflect from the fact she's a vile manipulative cunt with off topic bullshit

>>101687818
Friendly reminder zen is the same as the others the jan 6 spaz deleted tweet is a proof of it. Showering people with money doesn't make (You) a good person.

>>101731038
Except it's not an "anything", it was her friend and coworker.

Sure she doesn't have to speak and defend her, but also no one is obligated to pretend that mouse is their friend, or even a good caring person.

Considering all the calculated movements from mouse to keep her numbers, while losing friends left and right, it's very telling of the real person.

Ironmouse accepting the niji vultures has permanently ruined Vshojo

>>101731149
you are NOT getting away with this deflection IMcuck

>>101731023
It sounds ridiculous but so is having a child and openly admitting to it but then suddenly never mentioning them again and scrubbing all records of it. Does she fear the humiliation of admitting it or is there something deeper happening? One would think she's the type of person to come clean about it for even more sympathy and uwu so wholesome attention. That rat ain't right in the head.

>>101731208
> Does she fear the humiliation of admitting it or is there something deeper happening?

It would be way less donations obviously. Men don't like to support single mothers, specially those they are not even dating.
In other words, it's just business :)
Funny how Sinder got destroyed for the same mindset, but every other big vtuber is the same, hiding stuff and fucking up friends just to keep the numbers up.

>>101731197
The irony of (You) using a boogeyman to deflect.
Fuck zen, fuck IM and kill yourself.

>>101731208
Its the same thing as the body building/positivity influencers. The moment they admit to taking steroids its all over for them. If they lied about that then theres a very high chance they lie about everything. Nobody will support them after that

>>101687175 (OP)
>Now that Nyan and Silver's side it Zen

>>101731023
How did she get away with it?

>>101731322
uh oh mousecuck melty
zen won, vshitjo lost

>>101731197
Anyone that interacts with a media plant like Hasan is also another media plant
There is zero reason to want to associate with this guy

>>101731274
Between this and the fake illness (obviously disproven by the evidence itt) she might be the biggest grifting whore in vtubing.
One day someone with enough clout will do a reveal stream on all her lies, deceit and manipulation and this cunt will get the karma she deserves it for all the money she's stolen.

>>101731510
What if you support terrorists like PIppa?

>>101731510
Hello Hasbara

>>101731644
dude.. wtf connor doing sticking around this mess

>>101731804
dude got stuck with this 40 ish single mother and can't leave, poor man gonna lose his youth he still 28 old

>>101729434
holy mother of grifting batman. no wonder her suppose friend are dropping left and right

>>101729434
JFC MAN

>>101732356
it's just business :)

>>101731149
The terror of reality is that said group is full of good heated but woefully misled people.

>>101687175 (OP)
maybe they dont want to be associated with terrorist sympathizing grifters

oh look just what we need another normie fleshies becoming a vtuber because of ironlung >>101730128

>>101687175 (OP)
>Is Ironmouse and Froot gonna recover from this?
Yes, because they are getting nice deals from Brave to stick around when the merge happens. Melody is the one they are trying to move on, given Brave USA is trying to avoid an active sex worker being part of it's upcoming rebrand

>>101731149
The tranny was right, trumptard. You worship a child raping jew

>>101730573
>actually everyone lies *tips fedora*
Proof or kill yourself.

>>101733047
Nta but the original claim of her being sick needs proof first

>>101732655
???

>>101732717
um excuse me sweety but language like 'tranny' and 'child raping jew' is NOT okay in this office of the FBI, i'll be reporting you to human resources

>>101733429
>piptranny
The jokes write themselves

>>101733531
You are NOT getting invited to the next standard fuck party at the bath house young man until you clean up that potty mouth; how can you call yourself a true liberal progressive believer in democracy and talk like this.

>>101687175 (OP)
Holy ESL

>>101732717
No she wasn't cope more braindead brownoid

>>101733214
>crickets

>>101687175 (OP)
uhoh

>>101731644
>>101731644
when that drama chink Ant dropped her Froot videos I was hoping ironmouse would come to her defense and cause just that to happen. She stayed quiet like always though so sadly it didn't

Business and friendship don't mix well. Those two have different ideas on how VShojo should go as the top 2 members. Zentreya wants to uplift smaller members (who happen to be her friend) while Ironmouse wants proven people who have done the grind and can earn keep. VShojo tries Zen's option and picks Haruka and Geega. Haruka can't handle the pressure and goes on hiatus. Geega acts like she's a hot shot business savvy but tanks her numbers with GTARP and calls it quits because her numbers fell from it. VShojo goes with Ironmouse's advice to recruit former niji trio. Strikes Gold with Michi. Zen wants VShojo to take more risks on 2views during a deflationary Vtuber market. VShojo has to decide whether they want to keep Ironmouse or Zen. VShojo is business and needs to keep run, chooses Ironmouse instead as she is the face of the company and her business decisions were more impactful than Zen. Zen call it quits.

>>101687299
I love the simps being like "ITS CHRONIC!" Bro we dont care.

>>101735481
>Just dox your medical history bro

Here, for anyone that is still confused over what's going on with Ironmouse. Not giving those fags (You)s

>>101746280
That's way too many words, man

>>101746280
Yes, but what about all the other stuff?

>>101746280
This is Fake news

>>101746280
Has she or anyone ever provided actual proof all that shit? For all we know she might've as well made it up.

>>101751195
>Why hasn't she posted her dox
retard

>>101751195
No, zero evidence at all. More evidence she's a real demon with how much the whore lies, her terminal illness is kayfabe

>>101755473
lmao

>>101687299
Tbdesu pawning off your daughter to your mom so you can escape the responsibilities of motherhood to pretend to be a shrill voiced anime girl on the internet is worse to me. I genuinely feel bad for mouse's daughter, wasn't she raised to believe that mouse is her older sister? Grim

>>101762301
>wasn't she raised to believe that mouse is her older sister?
...Where is any of the basing for this?
Schitzo's here don't even know the difference between "Chronic" and "Terminal".

>>101746280

>>101762301
>wasn't she raised to believe that mouse is her older sister?
It sure didn't seem like it from the deleted post earlier

>>101687211
FPBP

>>101740878
This... Actually sounds very plausible. Also I think merch issues and the move away from gamersupps

Do other vtubers have as much vitriol aimed at them as mouse? (genuinely curious)

>>101687175 (OP)
>tweeter posting
>zentranny
>ESL
phasecucks not sending their best

>>101770500
Are there any other vtubers that feign terminal/chronic illness?

>>101770570
Yes

>>101770662
Oh

>>101770524
looks like a textbook mousecuck thread to me

>>101762301
she's a subhuman whore.

>>101775725
BASED

>>101762301
Anons have made up so many lies that anons can’t even keep the facts straight anymore.

>>101776584
Those are self-admitted facts about IM.

>>101776584
Delusional

>>101731208
The weird thing is how NOBODY has picked up on this. Is it over for anyone trying to show those things?

>>101777233
No they are not. There is only one thing that is true in all of that.

>>101776584
I particularly love the one about the "fake little sister", when never in the past 4 years of streaming has she implied having YOUNGER siblings, only 2 older ones.

>>101777576
Maybe because nobody, outside of antis here, gives a shit. And only antis think it would be something NEGATIVE to use against her. It says more about them than Ironmouse.

>>101731208
>>101777576
Not going to say more but something happened it scared Mouse and she decided to keep some of her life private for safety.

>>101777576
I guarantee she would get way more support than hate if she ever decided to talk about it all again.

>>101730995
because zen knows how to take accountability?

>>101732717
this but unironically
MÏGAtařds BTFO

>>101777860
yeah

>>101729434
o7

>>101687175 (OP)
Literally nothing changes leaving vshojo is a nothing burger

>>101778211
are you saying this is negligible?
LMAO

>>101777770
If noone, mouse included, though it was something negative, she wouldn't be trying to suppress after all these years, even hiring poker jannies to scrub all info of it every time it's posted.

>>101778415
That is a delusional take, people have a right to keep their private life private.
What if the person in question doesn’t want to be talked about?

>>101778468
But she was talked about already? It's too late. Like Mia Khalifas' deepest crevices, shit is public info now

I love mousey!!!

>>101778740
call me when she does porn in the flesh

Sure is a lot of ESL in this thread

>>101692399
>literally pennies
On YouTube
On Twitch adrev is way more lucrative
I remember a few years ago one of the biggest streamers on Twitch, with tens of thousands of subs (would've been $2.50 per sub at that time) revealed that he made more in ad revenue per month than from his subs.

>>101778415
It's called privacy, you twice-lobotomized lump of scum

>>101740878
Makes sensne.
I'm gonna believe this rrat.
Sounds completely in character for both and would explain just about everything here.

>>101708696
>If you think the current young generation isn’t tech savvy enough to install an ad blocker
Nta but do you want a real blackpill?
Yes, iPad kids are tech illiterate, gen alphas unironically grew up with devices that were more restrictive and their retarded parents told them that they would void warranty and catch viruses if they ever cracked their devices or downloaded a modded apk
They don't use PCs either and even when they do it's incredibly barebones, they just use epic games and steam at most and google chrome for their homework and porn

>>101779523
>>101778641

>>101779699
Yeah she talked about it when there were five people watching
I know it's hard to comprehend for your half-developed frontal cortex, but it's a very different situation when you have 2M followers and 5K CCV

>>101770524
>Everyone that makes fun of my schizo latina is a phasecuck
Nice cope cuck

>>101778135

>>101779413
they were both around $3 cpm give or take and now twitch is even less

>>101778415
Just to tell you how far she's gone to delete it, there used to be a copy of it on bitchute and she sent them a bunch of lawyers to have it taken off, imagine going to the unusable schizo website and sending legal to scrub that thing

>>101779758
And the 5 people are allowed to spread it, and the people who hear it from them as well, and so on and so forth.

>>101777860
yes

>>101780452
Does your third-world culture have no concept of privacy or respect?

>>101780589
If she wanted privacy she then WHY DID SHE TELL ANYONE IN THE FIRST PLACE

>>101780944
Anon she did not think she would end up with thousands of viewers, telling 20 people is not the same as telling the audience she has now.

>>101781018
Do you really expect people to bury info like that? The internet never forgets.

>>101781094
Nobody with a shred of decency and dignity intentionally spreads information that isn't meant to be spread

>>101781094
I'm just telling you why she was ok with it but isn't anymore.

>>101781263
Whore should have closed her legs if she wanted respect
and mousecucks simp for this lmao

>>101689678
That bitch is just trying to recover reputation

>>101781018
>Mia khalifa didn't think her sextapes would blow up and reach her family who will later disown her
Oh no... the consequences of my actions can catch up to me?

>>101689678
Literally who and why do they matter?

this tread still up ?? wtf

>>101783002
Like I said above, only antis think it's some kind of negative thing to attack her about.

>>101787085
Kind of kills the "VShojo/Ironmouse paid janitors" rrat, but these retards will never believe that violating the only rule that vt/ actually has consequences.

>>101781018
The issue was never even telling people. The issue was people then using that information to threaten her and her family.

>>101788726
Right? Because there ARE other people whose lives could be affected by it. But these psychopaths don't care so long as they get their pounds of flesh. Antis are never to be tolerated in any situation.

>>101699958
>unfollowed on twitter
zen blocked mouse even

>>101788726
How would the truth threaten her or her family?

>>101792036
I won't go too specific but she's had people deface graves among other worse things because she was too open in the past. Understandably she'd rather not talk about that now.

>>101792086
oh so more pity cope from a lying grifter
spoilers: nobody did that. she just needed money

>>101792086
That info doesn't even have any dox. What are you even babbling about?

>>101789614
Is there proof of this? How did you conclude this?

>>101795229
mouse never unfollows people. the only way that could happen is if zen blocked her.

>>101792036
Now you’re just being disingenuous.

>>101795402
>no proof
lol

>>101787085
At least there's only a couple of them and not like 10.

>>101746280
peace and healing be with her and God bless to her and her community, she's a good person

>>101795402
Ridiculous.

This really sucks that people hate Mouse so much. She's a good person brahs. She supported a 2view Vtuber I enjoy watching by personally meeting her in VRchat just because she's a big fan of Mouse.

>>101740978
>X is actually Y because I say it is!!!!
Very compelling argument

>>101803138
oh of course IMcucks are frogposters
explains so much

>>101806096
one nice act (it wasn't) doesn't make up for years of being an evil manipulative whore

>>101795281
Based zen blocking the game illness whore after not being contractually obliged to keep her lies secret.

Can't wait for the mouse exposé

>>101795281
Mouse still follows Zen on twitch
Zen no longer follows Mouse on twitch

Blocking unfollows both the blocker and "recipient"

Going by that it's likely Zen blocked Mouse

>>101812520
Meant for >>101795229

>>101812520
Based

>>101812520
i didn't know zen was this much of a chad

>>101687175 (OP)
>Is Ironmouse and Froot gonna recover from this?
>and Froot

You guys have a weird obsession with Froot and seem to think that she's some sort of clique-queen when the reality is that Froot has never been a central figure in Vshojo and she's been MIA for a while now.

I'm pretty sure Froot has streamed a grand total of 0 times in 2025 so far. She might have retired from streaming without telling anyone.

>>101812520
how shitty is mouse to make a saint like zen block her?