Thread 101705109

Content, stream frequency, collabs, etc.

I have expectations for nothing and I will be vindicated.

>>101705109 (OP)
she will be around for about a month before going back to her gura and senzawa frequency of once in a blue fucking moon, though since she's gotten the taste of how much money will get thrown at her by desperate pedos for holiday appearances it will follow the gura method of disappearing more and coming back to farm all the holidays dropping merch with each appearance

>>101705109 (OP)
Dooby lasted 3 weeks. And Dooby is a workaholic compared to her.

I guess the reason she refused to shill at Hololive was she didn't like the percentage cut holy shit
I'm kind of annoyed she's jewing this hard out of the gate

>>101701986
react,minimal,male

>>101705377
I'd say this is roughly what everyone expects. She might step on the gas a little more just to "prove everyone wrong," but a return to form will surely follow.

>>101705109 (OP)
I expect 1 stream a month, I know I'm asking for a lot.

A lot of things hololive discouraged her to do. Same as with Nimi. Non idol pop music, retro games/console streams, more RL content aka handcams, vlogs and shit like that. Anything that would have been a pain in the ass or impossible to get greenlit under Yagoo.

>>101705564
I can respect it, reminds me of Ice Cube ditching NWA because they were selling hundreds of millions and management wanted to give him 50k.

This is her payday after putting up with being a global icon and getting dimes on the dollar for it.

>>101705109 (OP)
She is still the same person so of course she is gonna ghost her fanbase.

>>101705675
Does it not bother you that she is clearly minmaxing her career towards doing as little as possible?

SABA CUTE. But the first week she went missing without any updates is when I'm just gone. Ain't falling to the same hole again

>>101705109 (OP)
Twitchslop and then back to hiatus until the next merch drop.

>>101705829
you've been falling in the hole for 3 years now

>>101705752
Fair enough, It just feels a lil over priced but I don't usually buy Vtuber merch besides the plushes

How long til she stops streaming for months?

>>101705109 (OP)
i'll watch whenever she streams retro

>>101705109 (OP)
>stream frequency
Lol

>>101705109 (OP)
>expectations
none
>i wanna take it slow
still hurt

you guys try'na strike a chord, and its probably A MINORRRR

Do it Gura. Name the fanbase Crab People. I dare you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEco8OCiS8

>>101705109 (OP)
This is the most boring debut I've ever watched

Kool Kani Krew

>>101705675
Holo is famous after all for having no retro streams, no vlog content, only poppy idol songs
In fact I think they can only stream the newest game that came out this year

>>101706301
She's pushing 30 nigger lover

>>101705946
Vtuber merch tends to be overpriced across the board, tolerable at best.

>what do I expect
cash out and only stream twice each year

>>101705109 (OP)
Saba: buy my merch first!

>>101706898
She literally just said she's streaming tomorrow lmao
Looks like the rrats were wrong and holo was actually the problem

>>101705109 (OP)
>collabs
with men

>>101706777
ok pedo, go back and listen to drake

>>101705798
thats every human beings endgoal and pretending otherwise is naive

what's her twitch?

>>101707088
Give her a month, she was active in new gens debuts

>stream frequency
exponential falloff

>>101705675
I fully expect her to do a small fraction of what she's promising at best, can't believe someone who was so unprofessional she did fuckall for years and still got paid.

>>101707186
>Nigger can't comprehend the post
Civilized people don't listen to your jungle booty womping music spear chucker

>>101705109 (OP)
>What are your expectations?
no streams

>>101707088
Have you not watched Gura before or something? And do you remember how many things she said but never done? Lmao

>>101707210
This is the goal of a subhuman 3rd worlder, so I dont doubt that you think that.

>>101705109 (OP)
>What are your expectations?
I have none

>>101705109 (OP)
>I need to check on the light
I expect to hear a child calling for her mid stream. Pregnancy rrats were 100% right.

>>101707449
Anon you're on here bitching about a streamers EXPECTED content output you literally dont do anything

>>101707310
sounds like something someone on epsteins island would say.

>>101707927
SHE WAS ONLY 29 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK

>>101707858
Put the fries in the bag, brown boy

>>101707927
AYO yite pipo dun season dey chickun n sheet nigga

>>101705109 (OP)
lazy introduction, really lazy, but if she does watchalongs, i am in.

>>101708021
>Sobbing that the pedo bait is revered for doing the bare minimum
Literally the incarnation of a wagie faggot, dont speak to me

>>101707310
The Weeknd, Travis Scott, and Playboi Carti are some of the most popular artists right now and are relentless MOCKED because their audience is 95% white.

Times have changed. White people LOVE music created by Black people as long as, you know, it doesn’t make them uncomfortable (Pusha-T, Conway, Black Thought)

>>101705109 (OP)
>Content
Reactions mostly, as she said she wanted to do in the past.
>stream frequency
Rare, like it was in the past and it was as a corpo
>collabs
I hope you like males

>>101705109 (OP)

- Reaction content is going to be her main content.
- frequency is going to be 3-4 times a week for a month or two and then 1-2 streams a week followed by periods of 1-2 streams ever other week.
- Collabs will be with the rest of the holo rejects and people who are looking to mooch of her name recognition.

Only other expectations are merch and "buy my memberships!" drops fairly often to milk a bit more money without having to actually stream.

>>101705564
It was obvious that's all she cared about was the money. She'd pop up JUST enough to ensure the memberships and donations rolled in or when she was doing a sponsored stream or when merch was dropping. That legitimately was all she was around and I don't get why people were so blind to it. She doesn't care about people, she cares about money.

>>101705109 (OP)
kino male collabs

>>101708610
I'm a professional, I enjoy my work, I worked a year of Saturdays when my company was understaffed because the money was good. Just because your interests aren't marketable doesn't mean everybody lives as sad a life as you

>>101705109 (OP)
>Content
she already mentioned really wanting to do karoke and movies with members, so it's gonna be >>101705675 and doing reaction trash. Maybe a few original songs too down the line and my sides will go nuclear if she does another track for Belle Delphine, or songs that throw shade at corpos/peers/past co-workers
>stream frequency
once a week at the most until September, then tummy hort
>collabs
ex holos and nijis to include an eceleb or two, including her """""manager""""" aka the "Lighthouse Keeper"

>>101705109 (OP)
probably 2 or 3 times a month and collabs with ex holos only
but I'm hoping for at least a whole week of streams every month and no collabs at all

>>101707808
That child is me

>>101709093
>Just because your interests aren't marketable doesn't mean everybody lives as sad a life as you
You were just crying 2 minutes ago about a woman marketing her interest so hard she barely has to do anything to be successful while you're self-reporting about working 6 days a week lmao. Quick give me a speach about how if you love your work you never work a day in your life, that'll make me think you're not pathetic at all.

>>101705675
>A lot of things hololive discouraged such as
>this list of things holos do regularly

>>101705675
You people really hate Hololive despite clearly not watching them or knowing anything the girls can/cant do. Pathetic. I guess as a chumbud you hadn't been able to watch streams for years now so its sort of understandable but still extremely pathetic anyway

>>101707088
Why are you so incredibly, unbelievably, shockingly, stupid and gullable????

>>101707310
Ask me how i know that you are brown larping as a white

>>101709577
How interested can you be in something if you dont fucking do it lol. Shes marketing what others have built for her. If you want to do your job as little as possible it is to do something that you are actually interested in instead. She is really good at making monkeys clap and give her money, but clearly that isn't fulfilling for her. I hope she finds something she actually likes to do eventually

She will do a regular streaming 3-4 months and after the new year, she will have total burnout. Then it's back to streaming every other month.

>>101710360
>Seething amerimutt
embarrassing

>>101705109 (OP)
>very active beginning
>drop-off after a couple of months, maybe even weeks
>monthly to bi-monthly streams, complaining of "burnout" already

She had nothing to do for several minutes of her debut and just vaguely roleplayed until the omocat merch drop. It felt like she had someone nudging her to even talk about her model and stream credits, signaled by her going "OH! Oh yeah" a couple times or variations thereof.

She is only in this for the free money. Her model is cuter than I thought it would be, but the novelty will wear off just like it did for Gura. Maybe even sooner because this is just blonde cat Gura.

Honest question, why would anything change from before?

>>101710842
>nothing funny in the screenshot tabs
ngmi

>>101710985
She can be as slutty as she wants now

>>101705662
>prove everyone wrong
And people here will believe her and rag on others saying she'll disappear

>>101711011
>DAE DRAGON DILDOS AND HOMOSEXUALITY XDDD
Americans

>>101705109 (OP)
why does she present herself as a child?

>>101710985
I don't think it will, but I'm also not someone who needs to just watch gura/saba. I'll enjoy her streams whens he streams and when not I'll watch other people. Its not that big of a deal

>>101705109 (OP)
She's stream the same amount as she did in Hololive and make people wonder why she quit in the first place if going indie didn't affect her streaming.

>>101710842
>New Tab bookmark
anon is new to browsers

>>101711021
She's not Shondo or any other ToSbait, it's always going to be a very safe "slutty" that only Catholic gooners can enjoy. That's why she was fine with showing off body parts that normies see as nonsexual.

>>101711093
>"how old are you?"
>"umm hmm uhhh"
>avoids the question and answers another question
k e k

>>101711121
>nyaruko in current year
id say im surprised but they did slut out the IP for that one vita crossover game

diddy ahh design

>>101711284
She's selling the pedo fantasy

>>101705109 (OP)
I care so much, I'm not even subscribed

>>101711213
>retard can't into editing bookmarks
That shit goes straight to my favorite Yui Hatano video

>>101711308
>>101711307
Yeah surprised she went with the child design

>>101710923
She 100% leans into the pedo market and the new model shows it.

>>101711021
Was she slutty before?

>>101705564
Highly doubt it was about money.

>>101710842
>of course only showing the palm side of your fat lard greasy hands
Kek

>>101711362
>hides porn
you have to be 18 to post here

>>101710985

It won't. The supporters are going to support her no matter what though because they like tossing money at a kiddie model. I give it two months before they're in here going "Guys, you have to understand, she's so busy and I just hope she's taking care of herself."

>>101711490
Only on Christmas

>>101705109 (OP)
>Content
Same as before
>Stream Frequency
Will attempt to overlap holo events (and fail), will settle for streaming 1 month a year during holo downtime
>Collabs
Dooby obviously, maybe Nimi, probably gonna wrangle Sachi in a call just to farm hype. Not gonna collab with any indie who isn't holo adjacent.
>etc.
Will keep doing the cunny dogwhistling. Will spam brand deals and get them solely because of her unmentionable legacy.

I'm deathly curious about how much she's going to vaguely dripfeed share or blurt out behind the scenes stuff of her hololive career. She had the world, why didn't she do more? So my expectation is that either she can finally do things she wanted to do or this is just an easy "victory by default" hustle that she can put minimum effort in. Enigmatic creature.

>>101705675
>Non idol pop music
Marine has released like half a dozen city pop tracks by now.
>retro games/console streams
Mr. Koro. Though mainly the reason why most of them don't play retro is because of accessibility and perms autism that Cover unfortunately has to comply with.
>more RL content aka handcams, vlogs and shit like that
They still do that? They just have to wear gloves now because retarded stalkers and creeps have to ruin things for everyone.

>>101712087
Not always about the money.

>>101712263
marine is one of the top hololive earners

mackerel maniac!!!

>>101712369
??? What does that have to do with what I said or the post that I was replying to?

>>101705109 (OP)
>collabs
Nimi and Dooby, obviously. Perhaps more of the "Dooby and Friends" things from the last Doob stream like Doki and Mint?

Shondo?

>>101705109 (OP)
bullied off the internet by Kiwifarms. She no longer has Cover to protect her so the farms are going to go in on her hard. The head of Kiwifarms is already posting about how disgusting her new model is. It's gonna get ugly.

>>101705109 (OP)
I expect 1 stream per month by next year.

>>101712087
its the "i could do it better" fallacy.
people work a job they dont love, start seeing flaws they think they could fix on their own, and some try to work for themselves. a few make it, but a lot of them find out that they need the structure or are missing critical skills to be successful on their own.
think it depends entirely on who her support team is and if she can keep up an audience while having less collabs.

>>101705109 (OP)
She's gonna stream regularly at first to overlap the new Holo gen that's debuting soon. Then she'll go back to only streaming to promote merch.
She has a system and it works well for her.

>>101711441

That's basically all she's got going for her. She doesn't have a voice that anyone will take serious in an adult body, so best to just lean into the pedobait and roll in the pedo profits.

>>101711490
Kind of. She was basically a massive drunk and that came with a lot of slutty / suggestive behaviors because she knew it got attention.

>>101705109 (OP)
>Streams
HAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>101705109 (OP)
The ex-holo collabs are probably going to be the most common type of collab she’d do, but considering how she’s a tad more open, it wouldn’t surprise me if she’d start collabing more with Phase

>>101712284
That wasn't my only implication but more like, simply, why didn't she vtube more? I watch some tiny indies who have a full-time job and put tons of time, effort, money and DIY into chuubing so it's kind of a whiplash seeing full-time superstars like her doing relatively little. Which is why I'm curious about the behind the scenes since obviously we can't know the full story but maybe she can share a bit about her goals and attitude.

>>101712813
Kinda funny how out of all the ex-holos in this image, only Nimi has the most consistent streaming schedule of them all kek

>>101705109 (OP)
1 stream a month a few months after debut.

>>101705109 (OP)
>expectations
she will stream once every 3 months and disappear completely after 4 streams feel free to screencap this

>>101705109 (OP)
The golden age of sexy fanart

>>101705377
Intermittent reinforcement is textbook for Narcissists and people with psychological disorders. It's sad people fall for it.

Does she hate video games as much as it feels like she does?

>>101713213
Nothing has changed

>>101713739
kinda got that feeling she’s just going to play whatever people tells her to alongside fotm

>>101712263
>Marine has released like half a dozen city pop tracks by now.
Everything Marine releases is a HUGE bop and all of it is have-on-repeat-for-a-week worthy. Then all the music EN releases is just straight dogwater. It's not impossible for westerners to create good music in the image of Japanese otaku culture, SAWTOWNE is proof of this, so I wonder why it never sounds good or catchy?

>>101705109 (OP)
I expect nothing and she will deliver even less.

>Coco quits hololive
>Immediately starts streaming again at another company
>Aloe quits hololive
>Immediately starts streaming somewhere else
>Gura quits hololive
>immediately starts streaming somewhere else
>Rushia
>etc etc

Its clear none of these people graduated because they wanted to quit being a vtuber.
So, what's going on in Hololive? What keeps pushing them out? Is it because they want to just be livestreamers and not idols, but Hololive tries to push them into dance classes and singing classes? Is it because Hololive makes them only stream at the studio? Is it money?

>>101714409
Could be any of the above, could also be some corporate bureaucracy and perms standing in the way of what they want to do. Could be disliking some managers and the way they are treated. People will leave jobs just due to a manager making it insufferable.

>>101707984
She being almost 30 means that all the doxxfaggotry passing around was WRONG lol.

>>101710842
>Temu
>Ocarina of Time
Ok, that's funny.

>>101705109 (OP)
>Content
Sex
>stream
Sex
>frequency
Every night
>c ollabs, etc.
With my penis

If she streams significantly more than Gura, then something was up. It could be cover taking taking too much money from her or creative freedom being blocked.

>>101713515
Wouldn't narcissists just bombard you with messages or always contact you?

>>101705109 (OP)
JOI ASMR
>XXXSH

>>101709123
>including her """""manager""""" aka the "Lighthouse Keeper"

She said she herself is the lighthouse keeper. This angle continues to fail 4 years later.

>>101710842
Are you a woman or a child?

>>101712426
Kiwi farms won't do shit.

Probably gonna be even more open about liking loli stuff. Maybe not on the level of shondo, but close? Could be wrong on that but It's obvious she enjoys the idea and aesthetics of lolis since she's gone that route again.

>>101711121
Based and the way it should be for everyone

>>101713213
Almost like Nimi is the only one that actually cares about the industry and wanted to continue it, but the company requirements changed and she didn't enjoy those aspects or something. Meanwhile, the rest of them are just completely checked out of the industry as a whole and are content milking cash here and there for next to nothing or something.

>>101705109 (OP)
She needs to stream 8 hours every single day for 5 years to atone for her sins.

Her motivation is money so you can project lots of merch and half-assing 50% more effort. There won't be any Gura-like "bag..." promos. It will be "omg look at this limited time only baaag!!!"

(4chan loser in his briefs and long tee): "I liked the "bag..." I'd buy more that way."

Yeah because you're a fucking loser and you represent 0.00001% of consumer surplus. Marketing is taught as a profession foe a reason, lib.

>>101705109 (OP)
Stream a bit, then do nothing for weeks/months at a time. I don't care I don't watch her.

>>101713213
It was the same in Holo. People thinking Gura/Saba is going to stream often after the first month or two are delusional

>>101705109 (OP)
I'm gonna AI generate so much Saba porn.

>>101715880
She originally wanted to be a children's entertainer and she settled for (You) aka manchildren instead. Be grateful.

lol kiwifarms is already trying to go after her

>>101716479
Those people are addicted to failure

>>101716479
the only people who spend any substantial amount of time on KF are people who are trying to convince themselves they aren't worse failures than the losers they archive.

>>101714271
>It's not impossible for westerners to create good music in the image of Japanese otaku culture
Seeing that IRyS and Mori ranked high on Ototoy yearly rankings this is obviously untrue.

>>101714409
Aloe asides, they are rich and don't need to grind anymore. It's easy to do things as a hobby however you want to when you have millions bucks in your bank account

>>101716560 (Me)
Copied wrong line. Was meant to copy pasted
>Then all the music EN releases is just straight dogwater

>>101705109 (OP)
>3 years of ghosting

3 years more of mostly the same? Even if she somehow remains active for longer than 2 weeks she's not going to network or do much beyond short streams the type she always did

>>101705109 (OP)
I think she'll stream a lot for the first month then burn out. And honestly, with so many fans giving her money for nothing, i wouldn't blame her at all.

>>101705377
I give her 3 months before she lets off the gas

>>101705109 (OP)
I expect her to have totally returned to form (not streaming anything at all for weeks) by Halloween

>>101705798
Yea that's like the end goal of any job anon.

>>101705564
it's more like she's done with Vtubing, it got boring to her somewhere around 2022 but she have no better idea what to do with herself so it's a way to keep the money going for herself and her family with no expectations. She doesn't have any o>>101705564
her career or passion like mumei so it's milking pedos with both hands this time and it's working.

>>101705109 (OP)
don't care not watching your sharkslop whore

>>101705675
>more RL content aka handcams, vlogs and shit
I don't know how you could ever believe this, considering the ONE time she did a handcam stream it was like 240p in the dark. It might as well have been an ASMR stream with how it was primarily aural, plus I do NOT see her doing vlog material unless she pays someone to edit/script write her own vacation for her.

>>101714409
Aloe got doxxed by nijigroes (she didndu nuffin' wrong) and Rushia was fired. The former was mentally ill (redemeed) and the latter was mentally ill (evil) and could only survive on leeching off of men, which I think is slowly drying up.

The rest just either don't want to deal with company paperwork and requirements (travel, asking perms to play games, needing to go through the company to make music etc) but I think that half of them barely have the drive to do all the things they THINK they're going to do.
Look at Dooby, she's hardly done anything with the so-called studio she spent months putting together, telling her fans for weeks both in Hololive and post-Hololive how great it was gonna be after she set it all up. This is an industry of women, and maybe only like 2% of them are go-getters.

>>101705675
>Non idol pop music
If this is your goal, you wouldn't have a saba body
It's increasingly difficult to do orthodox pop music with such a pedophilia body

3 weeks of streams
then back to months long break

>>101705675
>Non idol pop music
like HoloID does?

>retro games/console streams
like korone does?

>more RL content aka handcams vlogs
like haato/shiori does?

>>101715389
Correct. What they WILL do however is seethe over Saba because a lot of them hate anime and ESPECIALLY hate lolishit

>>101705109 (OP)
Member stream 2-4 times a month.
Regular streams 1-3 times a month.
Covers and original songs
Collabs with Dooby and Nimi.

I hoped, beyond all hope, she would have been a goblin shark girl. Oh well, not like she'll actually stream anyways.

>>101714409
I heard one of the reasons Gura quit was because they kept canceling projects she had prepped, some of which she spent her own money on to get off the ground

>>101712426
But she isn't lolcow

>>101717931
lmao you must not be aware how the site works now. Most lolcow threads are not funny retards but either political shit or trannies.
Cow touching is also now very common and sharty memebers also a growing amount of the site.

There is a thread where they try to go after loli defenders and loli vtubers and they are so deranged they are happy not that some sick fuck got arrested and is off the streets but because he also had drawn loli porn on him.

The site also is now calling Metokur a pedophile for talking to Kirsche

I'm glad she got a better model now that she's out of that corpa. Hololive's rigging is fucking awful.

>>101715359
>She said she herself is the lighthouse keeper.
Kobo?

>>101706301
MUSTARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD BOIIIIIII TS SO TUFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>101707391
I remember her streaming often for 2.5 years, until the disputes with Cover. Same time, she started making the 'Ash Again' song.

>>101719140
>2.5 years
She pretty much stopped streaming regularly after about 6 months.

>>101705109 (OP)
I expect about a month of her streaming regularly with chumbuds shitting up the board with "SHE'S SO BACK ANTIS BTFO" and then she disappears and chumbuds will go silent.

>>101705295
FPBP

>>101719489
lies

We are seeing current members not being able to be consistent as long as Gura.

I expect her to 100% whore out like her former corpo contemporaries. The rest of the dress 100% comes off.

>>101721749
Yeah, for me.

Gura can finally collab with males!!!

>>101705109 (OP)
I have my expectations that she will notice me, want me to do programming tasks for her and marry me and we'll have 2 nice kids (One named Vergil) and we'll live ina boat where we'll play FFXIV and other MMORPGs together while watching the Bau Baus.

i cant wait for the next SABAdo

>>101707088
she will get bored in a few days

>>101715389
>>101718076
no white man actually likes pedobait right?........

>>101720167
repeat every six months

>>101711590
>doesn't have a wife
Stop embarrassing yourself

>>101705295
Fpbp

>>101705109 (OP)
no shark no buy
fluffy ears = no buy
not enough sharp teeth
and for that reason im out.

>>101714409
>>101717048
For what it's worth, Coco basically got everything she wanted done that simply wasn't feasible as a vtuber, now she can make out with Choco on sunday or something.

Saba is a net loss for the industry and ensures (to the delight of many) that vtubing will never be more than panhandling and knockoff onlyFans. She’s good for groomers, pedos, the mentally diminished, and the mentally ill.

She got in hololive, made bank, got out, and poisoned the well. There will be less sponsorships and other money making avenues for other chubbas as the face of EN vtubing decides to pander to lolicons like herself.

Saba actually is who people claim Shondo is. Unreal what she’s decided to do.