Did you rike it?

wont be watching her since shes overlapping nimi

>>101708585 (OP)
I fucking love her, I'm in love all over again

>>101708585 (OP)
Dead on arrival.

>>101708585 (OP)
Not really. It reminds me of those weird twitch slop models that have unnecessary shit. But I wish her the best for the future

I’ll like the porn the japs make

>>101708585 (OP)
i've never loved her more

she is so fucking perfect

>>101708585 (OP)
Superior to Gura

Literally all she did was shill merch, who the fuck watches commercials for entertainment?

Insane how she got a more expressive model when going indie compared to what she had at Hololive

>>101708585 (OP)
Nyoi

>did I like it
No, the whole debut is about her begging for money

>>101709328
Nyo!

>>101708585 (OP)
No. Her face looks like Mint/Doki/Shylily

>>101708924
this, its not that good and she got right to shilling
I didnt watch her as gura, wont watch her now, just have to see everyone else talk about her for a month
Did the same with nimi, but I was actually impressed with Dooby

>>101709187
Yes, I expected a banger debut, some lore, some schedule, a better presentation and Idk, that was weird

>>101708585 (OP)
She somehow became even more cunny than Gura, bravo Saba. I like the design for the most part but I fucking hate how she now has the retarded whale tail; I used to like that design but now that literally every vtuber and their mama is including it in their designs in some way I just got sick of it.

>>101708585 (OP)
Why do her ears look like they're on the back of her head instead of on top?

>>101708585 (OP)
the rigging reminds me of vei, I hate it
other than that it's cute

I tried watching and there was nothing but dead air, awkward silence, going ummmm and uhhhh.
It was incredibly irritating

>>101709622
>>101709419
This is the point, I don't watch Shylily, the design and rigging is so exaggerated and now, look what we got, fuck!
>>101709696
Yeah, I like Dobby design, she get it right!

>>101708585 (OP)
yes i liked it and i was more than ready to hate it but i liked it fucking cunny won me over

>>101709816
Vei, Shylily and other twitch vtubers, I hate it too, damnnnnn

>>101708585 (OP)
>design a very seaworthy nautical loli
>give her fox/cat/mammal ears
gura was better

>>101709979
Another one who lost to cunny... yup... can't win against cunny...

>>101709816
>>101710014
Do you like her old dog shit rigging more? Or is this just PTSD because despite being better it reminds you of twitch streamers/vei?

>even more stalling than Kronii's debut
Implessive

>>101708585 (OP)
It was honestly pretty shit, she was late to her own fucking 80 minute begging ad. The most entertaining thing out of all of this was 4chan buckling from the overload and the largest sized clothing merch selling out first

>>101710016
This, I'm very disappointed, it not feels like in that meme ''but if your close your eyes'', idk guys, I think I need to go out and think about my life

Vtubing sucks.

>>101708585 (OP)
As someone who never watched Gura, she seems nice, I like retro game streams but ah I'll see if she streams consistently first before subbing

>>101708585 (OP)
She has the best looking and most expressive model out of the Hololive quitters.

>>101708585 (OP)
Saba daba do!

>people on twitter are upset the loli vtuber reincarnated as a loli vtuber
>the people complaining the most are kfp members
why are kiaratards so insufferable?

>>101708585 (OP)
Overall yes because it was just more Gura. For the moment it seems safe. No shitty content changes, no garbage collabs yet on the horizon. Very CUNNY design and model and all.

I have to get used to how over the top animated she is now and how her eyes go big all the time but I guess that's the western style of rigging they often do on Twitch, just how it is.

>>101710114
how the fuck do you get late to your own ads session that will milk enought to live streaming (or not streaming gura special) for a decade alone ?

>>101708585 (OP)
>She hates her avatar being sexualized, /vt/ said.
>The management forced her to sell sexualized merch, which she didn’t like, /vt/ said.
>debut with the most pedocoomers bait avatar model.
literally just a little girl in a swimsuit.

>>101710069
That's the point, it's not PTSD because I never watched them,I don't watch Vei and Shylily because I don't like exaggeration and over animation/rigging, but whatever, my opinion won't change her design

>>101708585 (OP)
I don't understand how people can go from her old terrible rigging and see this one actually lip syncing and not looking like someone using the warp tool in photoshop when she looks left or right and still call this worse somehow.

Like even if you think the design is a downgrade at least this one doesn't look like shit when it moves.

>>101708585 (OP)
No that model is a huge downgrade, and not in a "guras model was better" way but in an this model is actually horrible way.

>>101708887
Yeah she killed my dick on arrival

>>101708585 (OP)
all of hololive's rigging seems so awful in comparison now lol

>>101708585 (OP)
The bare tummy was a 10/10 design choice

>>101710217
Dobby have the best model

>>101710409
>Sex : fish
>leaking out
>you really want to get called crusties ?
>are you really really sure, it will be your legacy you know
>pick the one kani name in chat

>>101708585 (OP)
i came 4 times

>>101710523
did she really call her fanbase kanis
gross but kinda based

>>101710450
But did you see the merch?

>>101710424
Did you watch Gura? Her rigging was so terrible I just can't understand returning fans complaining about this even if its not personally to your tastes yah know?

>>101708585 (OP)
>Did you rike it?
https://files.catbox.moe/ndvfos.mp4

>do I like an 80mins ad
no

>>101709816
>>101710014
Vei is like a spectre that haunts you people. She hasn't even really been part of the scene for years now, and posts like this are the only reason I remember she exists.

>>101710600
watch the debut video

>>101710756
I ain't watching all that slop

>>101708887
>broke 200k CCV
>literally nonstop memberships for 9 hours, probably in the realm of 30k members already
>"DOA" says the seething anti
Lmfaooo

>>101708887

>>101710736
That's the point
>>101708585 (OP)
Nyo
>Did you rike it?

DID YOU LIKE IT??

No it was boring

>>101711231
If she looked at me like that in person, I wouldn't be able to restrain myself.

>>101711193
This is either bait or you've spent so much time convincing yourself that "her bad rigging was part of her charm!" that you think bad rigging is good rigging now.

>>101710114
L and M actually sold out first

>>101711111
lol, can't believe there is people buying her debut shit.

Seems like dooby was the only ex-holo that actually did a believable "hey guys I'm just a new indie vtuber starting out with streaming for the first time thing haha look at how humble I am" thing.

saba even mentioned "I'm gonna make some original songs teehee bet you can't wait for that". Like you'd never hear that coming from an indie vtuber before they've even released any music to begin with. it's way too obvious that she's not new to this at all.

>>101711111
>quints
holy checked

>>101708585 (OP)
Thanks YAGOO, I rike it

>>101711302
It's not bait, Idk anon, it's just personal taste I guess, as I said here I don't watch shiylily and vei because it's too exaggerated, it's annoying to me, but whatever, she will be very successful either way

>>101711302
Pretty much they had to spent years defending cover so they brainwashed themselves into thinking the bad rigging was ok.

>>101711396
I hope this is over soon. Imagine Hideo Kojima going like "omg I'm a new indie developer and I'm gonna make my first game ever" after quitting Konami. It's pretty retarded.

Gura gigahater here, didn't watch, never gonna watch but going of looks alone shes so much different it's like Gura is dead forever, which is great for me. Though this is just based on looks alone like I said, I'm sure if you actually watch you'd still get Gura vibes, but I aint gonna watch so fuck yeah ding song the witch is dead. Seriously, I was really she maybe was gonna Aqua/Rushia and basically make a crabon copy, but with different colors, then it'd be like Gura never left. PHEW!

>>101710929
to be fair, the hype will die sooner than later. Gura without the blue dorito isn't an improvement

>>101711111
atmbuds...

>>101711573
>Gura without the blue dorito isn't an improvement
It's absolutely an improvement, and you will be eating those words when she starts doing her regular streams without Cover perms bullshit or censorship.

>>101708585 (OP)
Her rigging reminds me a bit of Shylily's. Similar bounce. Same artist?

Felt like a sales pitch for merch.
I feel like she's just milking her fans now without hololive taking their cut.

>>101711688
Nope

>>101711736
>she's just milking her fans
Yeah me, every morning.

>>101711573
>to be a bootlicker shareholder cock loving faggot, the hype will...
Fix'd.

>>101711736
Which means even longer hiatuses, only reason she would come back from a hiatus in Hololive was because the money ran dry, now it will last way longer lmao.

The design is very very very average.

A lot of that has to do with the fact that it's automatically being compared to the last model which was way better and distinctive.

>>101711736
My bet is that she will stream a lot and spam merch until the point where she doesn't need to stream anymore, then she will be even lazier than she was on holo

>>101711521
If you used to watch gura, I don't understand how you can overlook her original terrible rigging but can't deal with this. It's not even the same rigger as shylily or vei

>>101711534
Kinda the only way I can understand it too. Her rigging was awful for so long I don't get how you can see this moving and not see it as a huge upgrade.

>>101709187
I don't really get debuts. Most Vtubers are let's players or yappers at the end of the day and the debut is the one stream that's guaranteed to feature no gaming and one yap topic.

>>101711736
I think there's another corpo behind her just doing everything for her and she just shows up and they take their cut

>>101709696
Anon it's a fish tail it goes vertical.

>>101711944
Yeah, like maybe people wanted one of those power point shows about her interests? but she already did that as gura so she didn't have much new to talk about there.

>>101711760
No, i didn't mean performer. I meant like 3D modeler/rigger/animator or 2D artist, designer. Or did she do it herself?

>>101711922
It's good, I would do a rigging like this, but overall it's mid, it's average

>>101711688
Well saba is the only former holo that has the kind of crazy money that shylily has. So both can just throw insane dollars at the best artists and get premium models that cost well over 10 grand with all the bells and whistles

>>101711396
Who gives a shit? Why should they do some retarded thing where they pretend they aren't easily recognized from their past work and are getting a lot of carryover fans?

>>101711396
From Saba's voice alone there was never a chance of making a believable new streamer debut. She addressed the elephant in the room in a funny way and moved on.

>>101709187
Really? Thank god that's a big relief as a hater. Imagine if it was a full blown concert as a debut, then some ex-holo call ins, then long ass superchat reading showing how much she appreciates her fans, ending with a heartfelt message she'll always be here for her fans to make their day better or some shit. God I would kill myself, thank god she's still just the girster cunt bitch she's always been, ahahaha I can't wait for all the cope when shes been gone for a week, surely shes coming back soon guys don't worry!

>>101708585 (OP)
Glad Gura can finally return to streaming full hours after returning from her mandatory IDF service

>>101711991
I don't really get those either. Like,
>"Here's the anime I like"
>"Here's a lore backstory"
>Never talks about anime again.
>No spanning narrative to the streams.

The only Vtuber I've seen attempt a narrative was Lumi's "The Disappearance of Kanako Lumi" arc, and that was sort of just an excuse to make several variations of her model for gags. Like Gloomy, Bloomi, and Samantha from Brazil.

>>101712066
A bit like Ironmouse or Honey Goblin?
I like it tho, it's very smooth, good facial tracking.

>>101712066
Weird how Cover has so much money but can't afford anything.

>>101708771
is the artist who created the model the same as for cuemew?

>>101708924
kinda same.
It's cute, but generic as hell. The little boat in her hair and the lifering twintails are the closest thing to something interesting about the model, but otherwise I couldn't tell her apart from random anime loli #47.

It's not like it'll matter though. She's big enough to the point where she could stream as an actual mackerel and still get numbers. We'll see how long her motivation lasts.

>>101711396
That's because dooby went full viva la espanol and let out her accent which she never did for ame in my opinion

>>101710279
It's a marketing tactic, TL;DR generate anxiety to get profit

>>101711111
checked
kachink

>>101712202
I KNEW I recognized this model. Cuemew is cute, but her bikini model was better.

>>101710272
You know that the shitter algorithm is going to show you the replies that will make you seethe the most right?
Why DO you hate KFP so much anon?

>>101712201
That's because cover fucking suck don't get me wrong i'm not hating i like saba and shylily

>>101708585 (OP)
I'm just waiting on the porn honestly.

>>101711991
>>101711736
>>101711534
>>101711521
>>101711521
>>101711843
>I liked Dobby debut
>I liked another indie small random vtuber debut
>I liked even a small corpo vtuber who debuted recently
>I was totally hyped to watch Saba's debut
>Didn't like it at all
Am I crazy anon? Am I that crazy?
Actually I think I am, whatever, I hope yall enjoy it, she is free from perms now so she probably will play a lot more

>>101712455
Retard. I didn't even say the debut was bad. I just said the design was average (because it is, especially compared to her last one).
I never watched Gura anyways and I'm not gonna start watching her now. I don't care about the debut itself I just gave a model opinion

Personally, I like the new model more than Gura's. More expressive and cunny.

>>101712455
Oh, Def. I'm hyped to hell and back to see Saba flex her freedom. It's just that debut streams are often just kind of "Check out my new model! ... K, See you later."

>>101711111
Checked and checked out. Whatever you may say about Saba's debut, you can't say that it was a financial failure.

>>101711944
A debut is usually supposed to be a QRD of the chuuba moving forwards. What kinds of games you can expect, what kinds of projects, etc. Will they sing? Are they competitive? Are they comfortable in groups?

I'd say this stream kinda failed on that front, though. If someone were to find out about her today and checked that stream, they really wouldn't have any information other than "I plan to do a lot of members streams and watch movies."

For an example of a good one, Selen's debut started with a high quality animation, as well as her own drawings, a fake schedule showing that all week would be Apex before revealing it as a joke, and made her interests and competitiveness clear. Watching that, even if it wasn't entirely accurate a year later, you'd get a rough idea of what the chuuba was about.

Fuwamoco's was pretty great, too. They had a bunch of cute shit to start, but sprinkled in were a bunch of dogwhistles like Yosuga no Sora to show that they absolutely had more going on for people who looked deeper. Ending it with the goals list and showing all of the things they planned to do gave an impression that they were very motivated and driven to do all sorts of things in the future.

Justice had some good ones too. Gigi's was relatively creative and energetic. Liz made it very, very clear that her job was to sing and that she's not experienced with much else. CC implied she'd do a lot more music and rigging stuff than she ended up doing, but I'm sure she'll get back to that eventually. Raora's was great too since it explained her attitude and what she was going to stream very, very clearly. (Art, art, yapping, and more art)

>>101712259
>dooby went full viva la espanol and let out her accent
She doesn't have an accent now does she? She still sounds like good old Ame to me.

>>101712541
I'm telling you ''I didn't like the debut'', not you lmao

>>101712453
I'll get right on that.

>>101712644
yeah, saba’s debut was pretty underwhelming. not really a surprise considering how low effort her streams were as gura.

>>101712597
Yeah, fair point

>>101712644
This debut was too rushed

>>101708585 (OP)
Her eyes still look too far apart

>>101708585 (OP)
She had a child, she just subtly confirmed. We are stepfathers!!!

>>101713018
>She had a child
Yeah, mine

>Her debut was a merch-shilling stream.

>>101712644
We already know what she does. She sings and she only plays Minecraft and rhythm games. I'm not sure if Minecraft will persist, I hope not. But she plays the same shit she always did.

>>101708585 (OP)
>>101708771
>when she tried to wink
HNNNNNG

>>101708585 (OP)
The Model isn't in rigor mortis + she's a zygote clicked away after .8 of a microsecond

i'll fap to the lewds, but probably won't watch the streams much

Eh. idk, I've always thought Gura was funny but... eh.

>>101713151
Yeah, YOU know what she dies, and so do chumbuds, but what about anyone else who finds her for the first time? For those people it really wasn't very informative.

I think it needed more shilling. I love infomercials

>>101712917
at least 1 month of prep btw

>>101713197
Don't worry her fans won't either

>>101713225
Yeah, all I got from her debut was that she was going to do members streams karaokes and watchalongs and she wanted to play pc games and retro on original hardware. besides that, it was random babbling most of the time.

>>101713652
Not because they won't want to, because she won't let them because she'll be too busy having sex IRL to stream, and not be >all me, by gigachads who probably bullied you in school.

>>101708585 (OP)
Very

>>101711111
BASED QUINTS
WITNESSED ANON GETTING BTFO'D

>>101708585 (OP)
Cute model and I like how she embraces cunny. Other than that though there's nothing really there. She'll stream regularly for a little while and go back to 6 month breaks. Same old routine as she was in Hololive.

>>101708585 (OP)
First and last time we will be seeing this model since cuckbuds gave her money enough to not stream for a while.

>>101709187
>who the fuck watches commercials for entertainment?

>>101713978
A tweet isnt a stream...

She should have made it so the cat ears were detachable. Now it's part of her base model. Versatility is key

>>101708585 (OP)
No, I tuned in 10 minutes and unsubbed right after, the model is fucking awful and she clearly is still not in the right mindset to be doing this shit.

>>101710434
It's just sisters being upset, disregard

>>101710745
Does she have the best rigging ever? Holy fucking hell dude, her facial movement is insane.

>>101711111
Quints of truth

>>101713978
it's fine when hololive does it

>>101714807
Only in the ends of a genius like her desu, not everyone can use that rig so well.

>>101708924
The mouth movement reminds me of those old garbage vtuber models

>>101712071
i'd like to tell you its kayfabe but to be completely honest with you its just legitimately autistic people who want the same rote things and to not recognize that this is real and they are real people. like the parasocial equivalent of putting hot dogs in your macaroni and cheese every single day.

>>101708585 (OP)
Models great. Sexo even. However literally nothing will change. She'll do what she's always done for almost a decade now. Make content maybe once every couple months. This is after she farms her debut hype for a couple weeks at least.

>>101708585 (OP)
I loved it but i gotta be honest, i'll really miss being called chumbie it's just such a great name that she said so sweetly. It'll forever hold a special place in my heart

>>101708585 (OP)
YES I RIKE IT VERY MUCH

>>101711111
I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO BUY ANYTHING, I WAS LITERALLY THE NEXT IN LINE TO BUY THE SHIRT AND PINS THEN IT SAID SOLD OUT.

FUCK THE GUY WHO WAS IN FRONT.

>>101711649
>her regular streams
DYRBI

>>101708585 (OP)
Her model is very cute. I'm looking forward to porn of it. No point on looking forward to streams unless she proves she can be more consistent now that she's free from holo

>>101715024
No no you must understand, the sweaty femcels are right and just like their 2vu debuts she MUST break out a powerpoint where she reads off the slide in rote rather than having a stream where she just TELLS us "this is kinda the stuff I wanna do" and uses an ID card to convey the basic information in a clear, concise manner that would otherwise be across multiple slides, combined with a QR code to bait you into seeing her humor.
No no, it MUST be a basic, rote slideshow in the exact same formula as every other vtuber despite most of the people watching already being very familiar with her.

>>101711534
Hideo Kojima didn't do a full introduction of himself despite everyone knowing who he was, but you know what he did do when Sony brought him on stage after him leaving Konami? He did some tongue in cheek "no no first time producer" to avoid Konami's gunfire and to express that he wouldn't be doing the same franchise as before, but expressed to the fans that "yeah it me." Same thing here. Tongue in cheek "nono first time streamer haha" but like...she knows and you know. No point in belaboring it, but gotta keep the contract lawyers happy.

>>101711688
shylily rigging was done by dya, raora's girlfriend

>>101708585 (OP)
I ducked out because it started off unbearably slow, I'll go back and watch the VOD so I can fast-forward

>>101710434
Yes, the rigging's better
But the design is often weighted higher

>>101712009
anon that was a list of chuubas the rigger (cillia) worked on

>>101715614
>>101715024
>to not recognize that this is real and they are real people
That's the idea, yes
Generally how fictional entertainment works

>>101709187
>look it up
>it's fucking real
holy shit i'm crying of laughter that's insane. she's already grifting

>>101710929
>got mogged by Aqua
lol what happened chumbies, no more covid buff?

>>101709187
>>101712120
>>101716383
>>101709356
>*Smashed it out of the park at debut despite being audibly shaking from the nerves*
>*Actual human beings all loved how adorable she was*
>SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT WHAT'S OUR NEW ANGLE
>Uhhhhhh I got it!
>MERCH IS GRIFTING OR SOMETHING!
Like clockwork

>>101712644
She literally told us that she was planning on playing older games on the original hardware and that she'd been spending a lot of time building up a console collection, and also that she was planning on releasing original music that she was planning on being "experimental" with. Were you just not paying attention or something?

>>101712819
More effort than you put into paying attention

>>101716365
>watching streamers
>fictional entertainment
you're not watching a puppet show on pbs you're watching women put on puppets so that you wont get scared of them

why isn't she calling herself Senzawa?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6DNdop6pD8

This thread is full of passive aggressiveness.

>>101712259
>went full viva la espanol
She was pretty much gone for so long and then I dropped her because of this.

>>101716563
I love how "grifting" and "grifter" just now means "someone I don't like".

>>101712644
Was never the biggest fan of Gura and I'm not defending her but people will never be happy. Her stream could have been a 12/10 and people would bitch.

Checked out of the debut pretty fast and have zero intentions of following her since she hasn't changed and will milk the fuck out of retards who still believe any word she says


Also parrot put me in the video or I will hunt you down

I'm glad we are getting all that new cunny art.
But deep down I know how is this gonna roll
>massive hype
>streams constantly for about 1 to 3 months
>starts streaming less due to tummy hort or any other reason
>goes into 1 stream a month mode until the end of time
>still succeeds because her fans are already trained to accept drip content
I hope I'm wrong, but it happened to blue dummy, it happened to blue shork, and it most likely will happen to fish.

yknow i really do not understand the status quo in the VTuber industry of not allowing streamers to keep their own characters/models once they leave.
they can't ever use them again, and if an agency ever tried to actually recast a Vtuber it would get so much backlash and be such a shitshow that it would never be attempted again.
i get merch rights, but is that all?

>>101717754
Is this a raid from his 5 discord trannies? Mentioning that retard should be a ban on sight

>>101718543
most companies rather let their ip rot than sell or give it away and let others profit from it

>>101711111
I WANTED THE TOTE BAG AND I REFRESHED THE SITE UNTIL IT WENT LIVE, I WAS TOO SLOW

unf

>>101719010
the artist who drew this is already cooking up fish sex https://x.com/oakadork/status/1939122750209118468

>>101719010
i hope this is saba taking a fat shit on the beach

>>101708585 (OP)
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>>101708585 (OP)
Who is this Cerber knockoff?

>>101721139
We just don't know. It's a complete mystery.

>>101716563
Can't believe people were saying she wasn't nervous. 200k people. And she has a loli model too. Fucking balls of steel.

>>101715623
>raora's girlfriend
???

>>101708654
nimi streams early.. shes overlapping bijou for sure tho

WAIT WHO HAS THAT SCREENSHOT OF MUNIBUG'S TWEET SHITTING ON PEOPLE WHO LIKE LOLIS WITH A SENZAWA LIKE LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>101708585 (OP)
I didn't watched this stream but wasn't she supposed to be a mackerel?
The design doesn't look good desu but I won't watch anyway so have fun with her.

Imagine streaming every day and having a consistent schedule

>>101711111
It's fine when saba does it apparently

>>101708585 (OP)
nope. the rigging and expressions are a huge improvement over goobs objectively, but no, i actually don't like it at all

>>101723789
>he doesn't know

>>101726000
Correct! Them's the rules, I don't make em

>>101708585 (OP)
I didn't watch.

>>101726000
>It's fine when saba does it
Yes

>>101708585 (OP)
I literally only care about her, don't even bother watching all the vtubers I follow.

>>101708585 (OP)
At first but I went flaccid quickly and flipped back to watching Korone to finish.

>>101708585 (OP)
The rigging was the best aspect. Very expressive and bouncy.
The reveal itself was pretty chill, which is to be excepted.
I found it funny she forgot to put on her ribbon on her left side of her side, she put it on once but removed it for whatever reason, now all fan artists are drawing art of her without that ribbon lol.

>>101713018
Wait when was this?

>>101708585 (OP)
Yes, I riked it

>>101708585 (OP)
And all of this for her to stream once every 5 months. money well spent huh

>>101711111
A fool and his money are easily parted

>>101708585 (OP)
It was okay.

>>101712117
>She addressed the elephant in the room in a funny way
Debut and Nimi collab all in one day?

>>101718543
Welcome to japanese corporate structure.
You own nothing and you will be happy about it.

>>101726000
That's correct, Madam.

>>101711111
at least six figures worth of sales? or seven figures?

>>101711111
What a cynical debut this was.
What did she even do to garner this following?
The only thing people remember her by is that stupid 'a' meme.

>>101718543
To be fair, most corpos are footing the bill for the model, rigging, etc upfront and letting the talent use the model and be paid for it. The established corps also basically give you an instant audience. Every vtuber that has debuted out of hololive post Myth has started at the ground level with at least 100k subs. That's a huge running start. If you're an unknown indie, you're probably scraping by with single or maybe double digit subscribers.

>>101716563
>despite being audibly shaking from the nerves
Did you know Christian Bale isn't really Batman? It's called acting

>>101729340
>What did she even do to garner this following?
pedophilia baiting, she use child avatar and throw sexual jokes and innuendo. if you in /here/ for a while you will notice anon refer to them as chum"pedos".

She will harassed a lot more because of that loli model. At least with the Shark one Cover could protect her.
Now? She's doing this shit alone.

>>101729551
I already saw people from another place semi-angry at her for both the tummy costume and the "Kani" fan group name thing.
To be fair she does play a lot on that.

>>101729551
Good

>>101729548

>>101708585 (OP)
Yes. One of the most expressive vtubing models out there.

>>101723802
>shes overlapping bijou for sure tho
heckin' based

>>101708887
her vod on YT is at 1.8 million views

>>101711283
you are brown

>>101711984
its a plug, it goes in the hole

>>101713740
>because she'll be too busy having sex IRL to stream
dont worry kanis, i'll giver her some time to stream, once or twice every few months

>>101717614
Just like gooner, incel, cuck, npc and more

>>101708585 (OP)
Love it.

>>101708585 (OP)
Let's see the schedule

>>101726279
>fapping to Korone
How? She's too pure

>>101726109
>>101726202
>>101729251
What about Nimi

>>101709622
>>101709919
Fuck Dooby. Once a cunt, always a cunt.

>>101729934
pedo

Nice to see Gura get a job. Lightkeeper sounds neat.

>>101718543
>Pay for model/rig/design
>Vtuber uses your massive audience to gain popularity
>Graduates asap and takes model and newfound popularity with them
I know holo is already a bit of a revolving door at the moment but it'd only be worse if they let them keep their model. They're also be some weird legal stuff, say a model is created for holo with holo's content guidelines in mind then someone graduates and starts doing camgirl shit with that model it could get messy.

>>101708585 (OP)
It looks like she has shown her true colors

>>101708585 (OP)
its a massive whiplash and made me realize just how bad corpos are at keeping up with tech (hololive rigging has to be the worst in the industry at this point, maybe?), but not-gura is like, damn. I don't know if there's a term for it, but it keeps moving and shit keeps flinging left and right, and her eyes would dillate constantly, it's so noisy and busy and full of motion. An incredible tech showcase from the artist/rigger, but i can't look at it
also all in on pedo bait, god bless gura go get that bag, the community around her will be absolutely insufferable but i shant be participating

she looks like a child and it gives me the ick but people immediately sexualizing her gives me an even bigger ick

>>101708585 (OP)
I like the model, and I'm glad she is finally back, but it was clear she was way too nervous during the debut, I know she can do better. Too many silent breaks where she would just show off something on her model, or her acting like she didn't know what to do next, and you just start to imagine her being all like
https://youtu.be/ivBaAN8mHHY?si=GR51BnpNpuG_IvHy&t=18

>>101732072
God u are so performative and gay

>>101731979
You have to understand that they are a streamer, but this makes it look like a demo reel instead. The model shouldn't be so busy and distracting from the stuff happening on the stream.
Streamers without webcams still exist.

>>101708585 (OP)
I rike it very much. Glad she's back.

>>101713151
>We already know what she does

>>101718543
Doing differently means the talent is able to jump ship INSTANTLY at any pushback. Good luck trying to herd female content creators without having a stick to go with the carrot.

Cyberlive was a great example, the girls got all they had to offer then left ASAP

>>101708585 (OP)
Indifferent, wont even watch her. But I do like to see, if she can manage to stream more than once every blue moon after redebut phase.

>>101731979
>hololive rigging has to be the worst in the industry at this point, maybe?
Have you looked at Justice models versus NijiEN's latest cardboards?

>>101723802
She's actually not overlapping bijou at all kek
It's funny how her rrats never last (because they are always fake)

>>101709919
>>101708924
Whats the problem

>>101729340
>The only thing people remember her by is that stupid 'a' meme.
No, that's the only thing tourists who never actually watched her remember her by.

>>101729494
>bro trsut me bro all these random autistic nerdy terminally online girls using an anime avatar are better actresses than pro Hollywood starlets but instead of making millions doing that they grind as vtubers
These posts never get less retarded, kek

>>101708585 (OP)
YES YES YES YES YES
I ADORE YOU

>>101732072
Show tits or gtfo, whore

>>101733393
You are delusional if you think even half her subscribers watched her regularly and aren't 'tourists'. She doesn't stream.

>>101733440
Chumkeks are all deranged anon, its best to post here once to bait them into rage then never come back :)

>>101733878
Says the one who's always wasting his time raging at Gura lol

>>101708585 (OP)
Yep

>>101708585 (OP)
ya

>>101714807
Not even close.

>>101708585 (OP)
I will keep saying no until she finishes Maneater.
I've been waiting for that for like what, 5 years?

>>101712644
>CC implied she'd do a lot more music and rigging stuff than she ended up doing, but I'm sure she'll get back to that eventually.
She actually does a ton of rigging. The problem is the large-scale stuff like when she rigged her own New Year's outfit takes a fuckload of time. You can't expect her to be rigging on that level regularly.

As for the music it's pretty clear she's currently not satisfied with the motion tracking for it and I doubt she's going to be doing much violin stuff until she can find a fix for that. Keep in mind that she did her own rigging before and it tracked flawlessly but now that she's forced to use software which can't track up to her standards she's not doing it. I expect her to try doing it more once she gets 3D and maybe invests in something better than mocopi.

>>101732171
Digimon mentioned?

>>101708585 (OP)
not really, too twitch shit

>>101713660
She's a shit streamer. She coasted by on luck and God given talents. I mean, expecting a gaijin streamer to put in any amount of planning and effort was too much to begin with, but she took it to a whole other level.

>>101708585 (OP)
no

>>101708654
She also stole Gigi's timeslot, which is definitely deliberate. She's mad about losing the top gremlin status

>>101717614
Gooner nazi incel grifter right wing bigot transphobe!!!!

looks like small fuwawa

>>101743423
>they will grow into those

>>101708585 (OP)
>intentionally making herself look EVEN younger
How long until Gura is 45 with no kids and still doing this

>>101743600
she went to japan and saw all the hags doing exactly what she was doing well into their 30s
buckle up lil bro, we're in for the long haul

>>101709187
>>101712120
I've been watching Vtubers on and off for five years (only clips on YouTube, never anything longer than 5 minutes) and I could tell that Gura always had a bad personality. She's a bitch.

>>101716857
She always over promises and never delivers. Once she is getting enough passive income from memberships she'll stop streaming again

>>101729494
incorrect Christian Bale is literally the Batman, you are thinking of Val Kilmer or Clooney

>>101710114
People actually sit down and watch these things for 80 minutes?

My life is boring, I work in a research lab, workout, and program at home.
Can someone tell me how to enjoy life from a Vtuber watcher perspective? I'm interesting in learning how other people live.

>>101743858
why are you here? Fuck off

>>101743858
>I'm interesting
Doubt

>new model is unashamedly gura 2.0
>even more loli-like just to get people talking about the "controversy"
>tries to co-opt one of the largest growing fanbases (blue archive) without any shame
>appeals to the most generic weeb culture online, constantly skirting on the edge between degenerate and normie shit without ever committing

Yeah, never watched her and never will. She's the antithesis of what I stand for

>>101744255

When will she say it as saba? I understand she couldn't say it as Gura but now that she's indie there's no excuse. Should I ask on a superchat?

>>101744333
When will Saba say free Palestine?????

idc about all the bitching going on in this shithole, if she's keeping this timeslot I'll watch and member her in favour of Raora.
The rigging also is objectively better than anything Cover will ever churn out.

>>101744283
Lmao do you even 4chan

>>101744255
she's just money farming like always, after all the money she's got from doing this debut stream she can have another 3-6 month break now

>>101743600
mein anon...

>>101744333
But I was told by veetee gura was based

>>101743858
I use it as background noise while I'm doing other things. I only really sit down and watch things when I'm sick anymore.

>>101708585 (OP)
It was an incredibly forced and financially driven performance, if she doesn't do better than this she will fall off hard. There was no genuine emotions from her at all in that debut, she wasn't trying to win over people and just assumed they would suck her ass no matter what.

>>101744333
Man these people are pathetic. They're demanding you say their line, like a threat.

>>101708585 (OP)
The mouth is cute but the eyes are uncanny.

>>101744255
>based
>based
>based
>based
Yup time to start watching her

>>101743903
Please just tell me, seriously
I didn't say I was better than anyone

>>101708585 (OP)
Why did Gura quit again? Covercorp turning into Jews because of investors?

legitimately fucking hate the exaggerated iris wobble when blinking that all these over-rigged indie models are doing
it looks so fucking retarded

>>101708585 (OP)
I like the model because
>>101708951
what this anon said.

>>101748359
Same desu

>>101743600
This may shock you anon but not everyone wants kids some people are perfectly happy not being a mother or father

>>101748359
>>101749936
Have fun with your bargain bin vtuber. While you're at it, go back to le reddit too

>>101751190
Not true, everyone who makes it to 50 and is still single spirals into depression. Even the sex in the city cunts regretted chasing the glass ceiling.

>>101708585 (OP)
her model and rig its average for todays standard, her voice doesn't fit the character at all, she lowered the quality of her tatsu to the point that she only babbles most of the time, and given the tendency to copy each other, I wouldn't be surprised if others started doing the same from now on, it's disappointing.

>>101710929
She only got high views because dramafags want to know why she left Hololive to begin with and are expecting her to spill the beans.
Come back in maybe a week or 2 and we'll see what her real viewcount is.

>>101710409
Only outfitschizo was saying she hated her avatar being sexualized, retard.

>>101754917
zatsu

>>101733878

>>101743670
Nice fanfic
Shame it's identical to all twelve billion others (You) and your brown kinsmen have posted

>>101708585 (OP)
Her character design makes me uncomfortable. I'm not a pedophile, her toddler appearance as well as the art of her laying on the ground kicking her feet coloring in a coloring book just screams "I am a child". It just makes me feel like she's looking for a very specific audience, like her shorts are pulled below her waist, you can literally see her bottoms straps. I don't care if the character looks and acts like an adult with a flat chest and short height, even with her high pitched voice, women like that exist. But making her look like child, have art of her acting like a child, sounding like a child, but dressing her in an outfit that no good parent would let their child wear just makes me feel awkward about it.

>>101755980
This, Saba shouldn't be wearing clothes at all, just like how God intended.

>>101756205
Barely even cute in terms of lolis. Generic and derivative

All of you are so retarded. Just let the cute anime girl be cute.

>>101708585 (OP)
It looks like she AI generated the design

>>101755980

Exactly this. I felt like something was slightly off the whole time I watched it, but when I went to the comments it revealed the intentions as pretty clear cut that she's intending to only pander to a specific audience.

"Give me money and I'll perform as pedobait for you." seems very clearly the message.

I guess maybe that's where all the money was after all. I'll keep an eye out and hope for the best, but I'll stick to dooby and henya for now.

>>101710929
30k? nah, she's close to 80k. numberfags are terrifying autists. she's much much closer to 80k then 30k

holy seethe itt

>>101756828

>>101743858
Just watch more interesting streamers, or highlights alone

>>101710114
>>101743858
>>101765210
>They didn't notice how little of the stream was actually about merch
You might as well just watch anything, your imaginations seem plenty active

>>101765290
I didn't watch Saba's stream, I never found Gura to be very interesting. Good for her to be free from Hololive though.

>>101711573
>the hype will die sooner than later
First you fags said there wouldn't be that much debut hype to begin with because she was only successful in 2020 due to "getting lucky" during COVID.

Now that she's had the most successful debut of an indie ever it's moving the goalposts to "t-the hype will totally die down without Hololive..." lmao.

Gura was never successful because of Hololive. Hololive EN was successful because of Gura.

>>101765370
While I think you have poor taste and are missing out anon, I want you to know I appreciate the positive sentiments nonetheless.
>>101765376
TRVKE

>>101712679
she never had an accent ever even before she was in hololive almost a decade ago. she's just an american larping as a spaniard. If you've ever seen the meme of the 56%er going to germany and telling everyone that he's 10% bavarian, it's basically the same as that, but hispanic instead of germanic.

>>101765474
I'll be exposed through highlight videos anyway so if something interesting happens I'll know. I dont know if that makes me a filthy secondary but that's how I usually filter my stuff.

>>101743858
>I work in a research lab, workout, and program at home.
lmao bull fucking shit

>>101765714
>highlights
Understandable, but to answer your question yeah expect anons to call you a clipshitter tourist. I personally am more lenient in cases where the girl isn't your oshi, but just be mindful not to do things like say, posting clip links in the girls' generals.

>>101765867
Thanks for the heads up Gurabro. Cheers to your oshi being back

>>101711875
unlikely, a baby is endlessly expensive

>>101765714
>these are the types of "people" I share the board with.

>>101766105
My pleasure anon

>>101766264
>>101766318
The duality of chumbuds

>>101766264
I don't have unlimited time, I'll watch some important streams of my oshi but I can't throw hours everyday.

>>101712233
This.
The model is ultra generic, the only thing I like are the liferings.
Can't hold a candle to Gura's model.

>>101767929
How many other "generic" models have the distinctively Gura-esque streak of blue hair and a dress which opens in the front, retard?

>>101732915
do twitch V-whores really?...

>>101744255
it's called "going back to basics". And EN vtubing needs this

>>101755980
most homosexual post ITT
>>101759033
you stole this from twitter

>>101765376
>Gura was never successful because of Hololive. Hololive EN was successful because of Gura.
/THREAD

>>101765867
>posting clip links in the girls' generals
literally what's wrong with that???

>>101770231
a) clipwatchers are often drama tourists/catalog monkeys just looking to stir shit up or who don't know what they're talking about, whereas genuine fans who watch streams and do know what they're talking about will find the original streams with relevant timestamps if pertinent to a conversation
b) linking to clip channels rather than the girls' content drives views, engagement, watch time, etc. to those channels rather than to the girl's channel. This point doesn't really apply so much if you're linking to translated clips because translators provide a meaningful service and EOPs wouldn't be able to understand what's being said otherwise.

>>101770311
i see your points

>>101770388
I am glad you understand