kneel to your queen.

>justice still struggling to hit 700k.

>>101778818 (OP)
>not even a mil yet coming from an almost 5 mil channel
ouuf, fell off hard

Stream today?

>>101778818 (OP)
>holo vs ex-holo
Why not compare her to Salome, the chuuba whose entire brand was built off of "being the fastest to ever hit 1mil?"

>>101778982 (me)
Oh right, because that would be detrimental to OP's narrative and attempts at deflection.

>>101778818 (OP)
>

>>101778818 (OP)
This only proves that they shouldn't ditch corpo for mere impulse from their female brain.

>>101778818 (OP)
dead sub they say

>>101778982
>Salome
who?

>>101778818 (OP)
Holy shit wasn't she at 500k like a day ago?

>>101778818 (OP)
FWMC aren't going to like this

>>101779259
Yeah were are the other 4 million? Every nigga even slightly aware of vtubing knows that's Gura

>>101779342
Niji tried to push a girl whose entire premise would be that she'd be the vtuber who reaches 1mil faster than Gura did.
She reached 1mil right before that year's financial quarter ended and then mysteriously lost all support and is a middling niji streamer now.

Now I'm not saying she was botted, but it seems likely she was botted and then management dropped her for the next boy wave the instant they finished putting her into the IR presentation.

>>101778818 (OP)
LMAO
typical sabatards punching down because they know they will never catch up back to marine

>>101779421
it's like she debuted or something

>>101778818 (OP)
>justice still struggling to hit 700k
At her current growth rate, CC won’t hit 500k subs until about a year from now.

>>101778818 (OP)
a 20% retention isn't that bad.

just wait till biboo goes indie and you see how what her percentage is

>>101778818 (OP)
Let's see how long does it take for the numberfags in her fanbase to make Saba quit streaming again, shall we?

>>101778982
because Salome's growth was clearly inorganic and entirely a corpo effort to boost her by any means necessary

>>101778818 (OP)
Nobody cares numbermonkey.

>>101778818 (OP)
She has to have 3,055,000 subs to have a better holo/indie sub conversion rate than Nimi

unironically what kind of name is saba?

it sounds indian

>>101779882
Saba is mackerel in Japanese.

>>101779777
Nimi had 5 months. She had 500k at debut, maybe like 550k 2 days later like Saba now. That's 55% conversion shortly after debut. Her current growth is down to looking normal, maybe 15-20k per month, Saba will probably have like 1,5m when she hits similar relative pace around the end of 2025. Both doing well, honestly.

>>101779946
mackerel daisuki

>>101778818 (OP)
What's the policy with golden play buttons nowadays? Surely people can't just make a new channel every couple years and kick back with another plaque; Not implying they have any real world value.

>>101780114
That implies that most people are able to reach a million subs so easily.

>>101778818 (OP)
>not even near 21M subs
a flop, not a queen

>>101780195
Does it? I suppose I'm expecting one of those "engine oil: not safe for human consumption" kind of rules to crop up. One guy found the exploit and ruined it for the rest of us kinda thing. Plenty of people have multiple channels in the millions; think Brady Haran of Numberphile. But I'm also stoned so I might just be talking nonsense

>>101780477
Anon if you want you can buy a spare play button for a few hundred bucks. You can get as many as you like as long as you don't give them away to others or something like that. I know there's some kind of restriction on giving it away but I don't remember the details.

>>101779534
they died from covid

>>101779712
what is the hate with ceci? shes the funniest member of justice. is it because shes dating gigi?

>>101779712

>Sub count literally inverse order of interesting personality and talent

Why are vtuber fans like this

>>101780800
notice how the ones with the higher subs have the larger breasts

>>101780776
>>101780800
Little music (including violin which was supposed to be her selling point), no viral stunts, no subs farming some other way, kinda similar to how Fauna avoided most of typical subs growth tactics (like being the only one in EN to not touch vertical streaming at all)

>>101780953
she does live editing for a bit every other stream. plus shes funny. shes way more entertaining than raora.

>>101780776
With how Kiara lagged behind the rest of Myth, I think Americans are just scared off by German accents.

>>101781069
oh no... german fwmc...

>>101778818 (OP)
But catalog told me vtubers can't do this anymore. It was only a miracle from 2020.

>>101781150
i would love that. one angry nazi german girl screaming at me and the other a sweet little beer maid with GIANT FUCKING TITS.

>>101778818 (OP)
How fast will she bury Marine?

>>101780979
Sure, but that doesn't generate as much interest as drawing, Raora gets similar boost in popularity to Ina by becoming twitter artists darling. Liz just spams karaoke and generally gets by thanks to her singing, which passively increases subs over time. GG is the memester with "good in collabs" status, and released plenty of covers, even if her personality and general loudness isn't for everyone apparently the other stuff worked well enough for her. CC just kinda plays games and does her stuff, I even remember seeing some complaining in her thread about how she isn't showing much initiative, but I don't remember the details, just something that caught my attention once when I was bored refreshing the main page. She is stagnating because she isn't reaching out to new potential audiences, and generates less clips.

>>101779534
>Every nigga even slightly aware of vtubing knows that's Gura
Not yet, more to come.

>>101779712
Grim
>>101781069
Nah at least Ceci gets good ccv unlike that shitter Kiara, no one likes her

>>101780776
> dating gg
Shipping is one thing, but stop the cope fagganon

>>101781330
>Muh Kiara
Anon, its been what? 5 years? You need to let go...

>>101779712
>>101781265
Weird, CC is my favorite from justice

>>101778818 (OP)
>saba wins beebo loses
I kneel

>>101778818 (OP)
What happened to the other 3.1 million?

Justice really is the worst EN gen by far, everything they bring to the table is just rehashed from another member or traits that aren't appealing. Raora is good at art, but god she's annoying. ERB is ok at singing, but homocollabs. CC is cute and whatever, but doesn't really have anything actually going for her aside from playing the violin which she rarely does. Then GG is also just annoying, which at least she doesn't homocollab but she brought in the worst types of people into the fanbase with how much she makes her entire personality about "le sex and women" especially with shipping and more recently bringing gender politics in

>>101781265
The current issue with CC is that she's shifted most of her effort to behind the scenes stuff. She could be doing a lot, but it doesn't matter yet because none of it has shown. To her viewers she's just doing an exhausted stream every now and then, and I don't think she realizes how that looks.

>>101781069
>lagged behind myth
She was never that far off from Ina. Kiara got the worst design in myth

>>101781399
I really don't understand the delusion with these anons, sometimes, anon. What twisted interpretations, mental hoops, and cherry picking do they have to engage with before they understand that people are autonomous and have their own agency? how could she be dating anyone else when she's already dating me? It's simple logic, really. And yet, here we are.

>>101779600
She wasn't botted. There's no way Youtube would give her shout-outs and an award without extensively confirming that she was legit.
The truth is that she just caught the attention of Japanese normies. And normies are trendchasers who forget and drop stuff in a week. She's basically the Hawk Tuah of vtubers.

>>101781585
I just don't understand why even apply for Hololive if you're gonna focus more on behind the scenes stuff, maybe if she was actually putting out music related content or whatever then that would be fine. But she has barely anything to show for it