Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.
Big Booba edition
Zen is LIVE! And is Showing her new room That's all that's happening at the moment so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.
VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak
Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo (embed) | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo
Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/big/ for extended + and former member discussion
Vshojo needs a cunnytuber to bounce back.
Lolicons buy merch.
Zen new room if anyone is interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQtK9ZtCcv0
where's the chart
>>101781546She's still a plus. Also she is still in vshojo until the 11th so fuck off
Doobnya is my favorite ship
>>101781567Unfollowed and blocked the second the announcement dropped.
>>101781658Less tribalism, more tribadism
>>101781658For you maybe but I will still watch her
>>101781624Threesome soon
Do you think once Vshojo dissolves in a few months Geega and Mata will answer questions about behind the scenes since there will be no one to enforce the NDA?
I think Geega will vaguely refer to what was happening and Mata will just share it since she loves gossip.
>>101781658your loyalty to the merch warehouse is noted and valued
>>101781686I'd be more interested in Silver Press Conference Part 2.
>>101781686No
Because they're not drama whores.
>>101781708Does Vshojo have a warehouse?
>>101781726>not drama whores>Matalol
lmao even
>>101781726>not drama whores.>MataBrother.
>>101781726She is not shes just a yapper
Is mata streaming today ?
>>101781686Most likely not unless it was some nijisanji level shit. They know drama is just gonna cause problems for them as well with the most likely outcome being both parties get more haters. It's not worth it in the end unless once again it's a niji level fuck up
the big new NOVA reveal is here
https://x.com/nova_vshojo/status/1939644702065934720
>>101781942Evil women tend to be.
>>101781867They were sexually harassed by a niji manager they hired I bet
>>101781686If they donโt then Vei will
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>>101782179she is the devil. what do you think?
>>101782179Sheโs satan, so just misunderstood and blamed by sinful โhumansโ
>>101782179she's the idea of evil
Zen also unfollowed Gunrun on twitter
>>101782352Just unfollowed or blocked like Mouse?
>>101782396>Just unfollowed or blocked like Mouse?There is no actual way to tell.
>Mouse still awake
I thought her schedule changed but she is back to her normal time?
>>101782352She must be really unhappy with the company
>>101782396Unfollowed
>>101782352Yeah. Thatโs about right with him being out of her discord back in March
>>101782481Or just one of the many Zenhera outburst. It's not the first time. She also ended stream a while back because Henya didn't answer her discord call
>>101782516No she didn't.
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>>101782516But this time it culminated in her leaving. So she must be really unhappy with things.
>>101782481I said it before, it was definitely the Matara firing. It likely split group opinions (not in the JP ones, since they are in their own jurisdiction)
Geega and Zen disliked it to the point of leaving
Ama, Michi and Kuro were acceptive of it, but they still consider Mata a good friend
Haruka, Hime and Froot are dead
Mel and Mouse fully accepted it and embraced it
This last part created friction between the two, Gun and Zen, and things escalated into the fight they have now.
>>101782352she also doesn't follow bbno$, they probably hate each other
>>101782516Was that when Henya snapped at Zen's chat hoppers?
Mouse doesnโt follow Trump on twitter. Fucking commie
>>101782635This is completely and utterly speculative.
>>101782678she does on truth
>>101782516Only half true. Zen wanted to form a new collab to keep the stream going and wanted Henya to join but she didn't answer. Since she wasn't able to form the planned collab she ended instead.
Mouse doesnโt follow Netanyahu on twitter. Fucking antisemite
>>101782635if zen wanted to have a saying in how the company is run she should have put some money in it like mouse and mel did
you reap what you sow
>>101782743You are delusional
We'll survive
But yeah
I'm hurt
>>101782730Yeah make more sense thanks for clarifying
>>101782743for sure buddy
>>101782734but her donations to IDF speak volume
>>101782734Bibi has a twitter?
>>101782471as always wtc does not exist as mouse has once again proven for the hundred time fuck off with that
>>101782881Yes for shitposting and trolling mostly
>>101782910Bruh, you know he's in the US right?
>>101782352now this is weird because even Vei and Nyan still follow him
>>101782932Baby No Money is a Canadian.
My personal rrat:
Zen basically crashed out because Gun didn't want to turn Vshojo into a halfway home for Zen's 2view orbiters, and Mouse either backed Gun on that, or specifically told Zen to fuck off with her 2view savior complex. And now here we are.
>>101782932and mouse time is still normal no change
>>101782692>Decision was taken on March 6th>Zen starts asking her fans about leaving VShojo, and one day removes everything VShojo, later on that month >Same day Gunrun leaves her discord.>the three collabing with Matara all the time>Geega still considering Mata a member while they were both in there and her saying โIโm sorryโ>The talents on the middle have no issues with Mata, even been featured on Mataโs stream (the trial one)>The talents on the last row have barely interacted with Mata since she left, and one has issues with ZenSpeculation aside, something like that must have happened soon after the decision was taken.
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>mouse says she is streaming today now of all times
What are the chances she goes live just to shill the new music video?
>>101783056based. hiring 2views just for the sake of hiring them is cringe.
>>101783077>Complete speculation>Speculation aside
>>101783159Lifting up 2views for the sake of it is Zen's entire modus operandi.
My personal rrat:
Zen basically beat the shit out of Gunrun because he wanted her to advertise Gfuel.
>>101783093mouse has proven it didnt change multiple days now keep coping
>>101783249When she starts stream early today will (You) keep coping?
I hope Mouse adress the drama between her and Zen
>>101783272You mean her absolutely normal stream time? Keep coping buddy.
My personal rrat:
Gunrun basically beat the shit out of Zen after the latter said backpacks were overrated. Geega and Mata emphasized with Zen for the ass beating of a lifetime but the rest of VShojo is firmly pro-backpack.
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I think Zen need correction and so does Mouse
>>101782352keeping track of peoples followers is mega cringe,
>>101783477You are on a drama board from drama sisters.
>the ones leaving donโt have to pretend that they like bbno
Iโm good
>>101783589But I like BBNO so im good everyone wins in the end
sooner or later someone is gonna drop a google doc on the vshojo situation
>my departure was seemingly amicable but behind the scenes bad shit was happening and x person's recent comments have prompted me to air out all the dirty laundry thread emoji 1/35
I think Zen just had a bunch of little disagreements with staff that piled up and caused her to go ultra zenhera and quit. She seemed to begin starting to develop an antagonistic relationship with staff around the time of the stamp rally and from there it got worse. Not sure what Geega's deal is because I don't watch GTA but I can believe that she's just anal and doesn't like constantly organizing things with management. She seems like that kind of lady. I unironically believe Mata was fired for being annoying. She bitches about merch to chat so much that it's a turn off for me so imagine what she must say to people who actually work for her.
Zen is a great person and a successful streamer, but staking the future of the entire group on your 2view pet project is not a good proposition. And its not like VShojo hasn't tried, they hired her friends GEEGA and Haruka, and while they did decently at first the corpo grind life was something they weren't suited to handle. I wouldn't want to stake my business and personal fortune for Zens friends philanthropy project.
I'm sure this bbnos thing made mouse happy and I'm really happy for her.
Geega hasn't streamed since she left VShojo. Did Gunrun get to her or something? I don't really follow her that much, but I like watching her streams.
>>101783611>But I like BBNO so im goodget your head checked
>>101783625It's possible. I don't think VShojo is completely innocent, and the fact that Geega explained it wasn't about merch makes me side-eye VShojo a bit. Either way, we'll probably never know what really happened
>>101783652she's streaming on her notgeega account.
>>101783652She's been streaming on her notGeega channel. Not sure why she still does now that she's no longer /in/
>>101783652NotGeega has streamed
>>101783648Geega was pretty open about her reason for leaving and the reason it wasn't that big a deal is because literally everyone believes it lol. She's super micromanagey and loves to control every aspect of every project she works on. Handing work off to someone else just ends with her wanting to check up on how that work is going instead of trusting they'll do it competently and the frequent checking meant she was wasting time that could have been spent actually doing it.
I don't like that she left, but of everyone who left Geega makes the most sense in terms of literally everything we know and have seen about her as a person lol. There's basically no mystery there and nothing to rrat about
>>101783700If its not merch then its breach of contract. Either way bad on Mata
I do not like the AI gecko
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Mouse being the emotional support for Michi and Henya rn truly warms my kokoro. Truly a saint.
>>101783648I think Geega left strictly because of money. As for Matara my best guess is she broke NDA in some way that she considered "good business"
New Mata podcast. This time with Michi
>>101783625It's possible I dont think Vshojo is completely white and the fact that Geega explain that it wasnt merch related is making me do side eyes in vshojo direction either way we will probably never know what happened
>>101783700She probably broke some clause of the contract, and they had let her go. Kind of like how Yozora Mel had to leave Hololive. Now Matara doesn't feel like she did anything wrong, but a contracts a contracts and you have to abide by it.
>>101783650of course it has music means everything to mouse and bbno$ has done more for her for her career than anyone
>>101783735she basically indirectly said in a formal way that she's too small for vshojo to get a cut for something she can and will do herself anyway
>>101782945Those two rarely unfollow anyone
>>101783769>Geega explain that it wasnt merch relatedGeega also explained that it project management related. Do you only acknowledge the parts of the discussion that fuel your rrats?
>>101783767i see there are still some pre planned collabs with vshojos. those will peter out in time and they'll never collab again
>>101783866Isn't that how all internet arguments work?
>>101783794First time I've seen someone stutter in written form. Phone user?
my rrat, Zen wanted to be completely in charge of who's /in/ and not so she could recruit any of her orbirters and Gun said thats very unprofessional and somewhat illegal then Zen had her zenhera episode and decided to leave and unfollowing/block any who oppose her
you fucking faggots keep looping about the same shit and dont see what actually is happening. Vshojo became a shell of what is was , and mouse saw that, she knew that she could not do anything about it as it has been to far gone. So what does she do , get Matara fired , and have falling out with zen. thats why roxy became her manager earlier this year.
so you might be asking yourself, why? because She knew that Zen would carry the torch forward, to create a new org that is outside of the confines of coropratations, and haven for vtubers to come and no longer be used like tools for the souless machinations of the corpo SEA agencies and scam merch companies. an outer haven for vtubers where talent freedom is true
Geega learned of this and knowingly accepts the mission , assiting zen along with the mission. unforunatly Mata was just a scapegoat, but in time she will learn and though she feels betrayed she will follow geega and zen into this new frontier. Meanwhile mouse plays her part, ensureing that the corpos look the other way, making the bleive that what ever zen, geega and Mata are building remains in the shadows far from there prying eyes.
>Zen hates Mouse and Connor
>Zen won't join GFuel because of Mouse
>Zen can't join GS because they have Monke now
She is stranded.
>>101784017Is this from Metal Gear ?
Can you handel the new Mel?
>>101784058not into muscles
>>101784050Zen is Fragile
>>101784068I'm doing my first MG playthrough, I never picked it up when it was at it's peak. This shit is pretty hype.
>>101784058I'm putting her in the cattle mutilation
>>101784058super into muscles, get a model with actual abs Mel you coward
>>101783625why not
>their departure was seemingly amicable but behind the scenes they were bad peopleinstead
This remind me did Mom replayed Metal gear or not ?
>>101784050there's always mythic recruiting strays
>>101784087Say that to her face pussy
>>101784167Mythic doesn't have caffeine powder. They have mushrooms or some bullshit.
>>101784050Silver blocks her from GS too.
Zen should have never gone on twitter, after the vtweeters were saying oh they will just hire Zen's friends. Just an absolute dumb move let em seethe ffs. Further more what does Vshojo gain from hiring 2 views unless part of the contract says Vshojo takes a 10% loyalty on all earnings for all time or a buyout clause for the Vtubers IP.
>>101784192Can I say that to her pussy instead
>>101784050Time to get her own Coca-Cola flavor.
>>101784197Silver accepts all allies in the Anti Mouse War.
>>101784294She is still on topic here
>>101784256Royalty didn't know why i said Loyalty absolute brainfart.
>>101784294she's still using the tag? lol. shameless
What do you think Henya is doing rn?
>>101784363Furiously Masturbating
>>101784325Who cares, the jannies haven't stopped people from posting about silver, vie, and nyan and they fucked off from vsj years ago now. Really the only former that doesn't really get mentioned here is the menhera from the jp branch (I forget thier name they are mentioned so little)
>>101784435Why the fuck would jannies stop the discussion of vtubers on the vtuber board?
Funny how Mouse can stream again and Connors streaming marathon is ending.
>>101784675For the same reason that they stop Vshojo discussion in a Hololive thread.
>>101784703like why even pretend
>>101784703What do you mean funny, it's not some forbidden knowledge that she hangs out in his streams
>>101784363grinding that gacha game...unironically...
>>101784703I don't think the plan was for them to suck this badly at league. The challenge is getting cancelled because it's impossible for them to get 10 wins in the time allotted if they don't win the next 2.
>>101784721That's different
Remember when we mocked Nazuna for this sad behavior?
Geega brought back GirslFC kek
>>101784775Its just in her Bios, I think its fine
Being in Vshojo was a part of career, no need to hide it
>>101784842leechga
I kneel
jumping from one cock to the next
>>101784294this womanly sass is definitely indicative of some bad blood
>>101785132Vei mentioned Zen leaving and said she's technically still under NDA, and then mentioned "that not every company has an NDA like that, which is funny huh?"
With all the leavers, something is up
>>101785220Literally every talent agency has NDAs
You think Katie has tried to selfsuck?
>>101785247You claim the Queen is lying?
>>101785299There isn't a single person with a penis who hasn't.
>>101785313Not at all. I'm saying she's dumb. Quite dumb.
>>101785299What's with the "tried"?
>>101784906she's not a staff member
Just drop some good news already, i'm getting tired of this whole song and dance
>>101785382that's the problem: there is none
>>101784842I remember when she removed them from her background frames few weeks after her vshojo debut
>>101785492As much as you hate trannies she's still a + retard
pink rat update
<@everyone i think i can actually stream today... see you guys later today.
>>101785531Not a + Go back to /lig/ and post there.
Mouse sighted in aethel chat right now
>>101785382You should take a break my guy, there ain't none atm.
>>101785609500k to appleman and done
>>101785581god she so cringe just say you couldn't stream because of connor,
>>101785382Your good news is literally just bbno shit
>>101785609I hope he ignores her
who even is this bbno dude
literally comes out of nowhere to make music with the biggest streamers
>>101785581Strange, I think I don't like her anymore, I only feel annoyed when I see a tweet or discord message.
What do I do now? I've been subbed for almost 5 years.
>>101785692Aethel is too good for that
>>101785721move on lol
its not that hard if thats how you feel
will mouse turn off the lights when she is the last to leave vshojo?
>>101785755No. She'll buy the brand for pennies on the dollar and start fresh.
>>101785715I know he is friends with Smii7y and Kryoz.
>>101785609So did Mouse just not sleep today or are they making her stay away for the premiere?
>>101785715Dated Poki for a hot minute.
>>101785861mouse doesn't even stay up for when her own songs release.
>>101785715Canadian rapper, went famous because of one viral song "Lalala" during the early TikTok era (the covid years). He sort of tried diverging from it but it didn't matter what he put, nothing reached the high of Lalala, until he pretty much ended up the exact same thing over and over again, basically making songs for virality not to do something like crazy or meaningful. He pretty much does songs where the lyrics are mostly to fit the beat, that's why when you read them it ain't that crazy.
Since he's pretty much after virality, he goes to streamers, influencers, content creators, etc.
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I'm surprised you go to such lengths to avoid acknowledging Zentreya's self-serving behavior. Zentreya consistently got their way, but this time VShojo drew a line. While Zentreya did bring Haruka and GEEGA into the company, their influence also opened the door for less prominent streamers, arguably diluting VShojoโs brand by attracting opportunistic indies looking to benefit without contributing significantly.
Itโs natural to want more, and thereโs no blame in that. Sometimes people part ways, and thatโs just life.
>>101785861this is the real reason mouse is changing her sleep schedule
Can't wait for orbiters to ditch zen one by one
>>101786096They're not j. Zen has cultivated something like a cult following. It's not that they're leeching off her, but they're also genuinely grateful. She set up a Discord for all VTubers back in the early days, so she still has a lot of goodwill because of that.
>>101786096uh oh mousefaqgue melty
>>101786000Don't use Melody for your schizoposting, Mousefag.
>>101786096why would they?
>the thanks listed on the new bibinos video
What the fuck kind of video is this? Also he's really pushing this to be one of the biggest videos he has ever done so this could be huge for Mouse and Vshojo if it does pop off.
>>101786183WTF is will neff doing on that list lol
>>101786000>attracting opportunistic indies looking to benefit without contributing significantly.That is literally Mata & Mint.
>>101786183Also a nice specific shoutout to Mouse.
>>101786183FUCKING BUBI????
>>10178618373.8% of people on that list donโt know theyโre on it
>>101786230Oh they are definitely having e sex on the reg.
>>101786183I'm kinda interested now
>>101786183they probably will appear in the background like the mouse performance at the streamer awards
>>101786183I doubt henya and kson know who he is
>>101786285It's ok, Mouse forged their signatures on the IP licensing documents.
>>101786000>While Zentreya did bring Haruka and GEEGA into the companyWrong on both.
Haruka was part of the failed auditions, VShojo put no metrics into what constituted their reason for someone to join, Haruka participated like the others, but it was obvious that a person liked by the group at that time and who had basically everything, was going to be picked.
GEEGA on the other hand was originally considered by MTD (I wanted to check when it was that he appeared on her chat but MTD literally unfollowed every VShojo but the NOVAs, Henya, Kson and Melody lol), but something happened. Years after, it was Mouse who told VShojo to invite her, it was a bit obvious GEEGA and Zen were friends on 2022 and nothing happened, it wasn't until Mouse joined Bounce and interacted with GEEGA that she actually thought of joining.
>>101786183Kou Mariya isnt that girl from V4mirai ?
>>101786315>MTD literally unfollowed every VShojo but the NOVAs, Henya, Kson and Melodyhuh
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>>101786183Yeah, it went and checked yesterday, but that was part of the marketing ploy from yesterday, all of his recent followers are on that list. As to why Kou from V4Mirai, is likely to promote the concert. Lala is probably just there because Mouse likes her.
>>101786328is probably people who replied to his tweet back then about collabing
>>101786183>>101786230cute he made sure to include all of mouses friends in their video together you can tell how much he genuinely cares about mouse
>>101786401wut ? first time im hearing of this
>>101786183okay, now i'm curious
what the fuck is his endgame?
>>101786401Yeah, weird, he went on a full wipe of a lot of vtubers too.
I remember his list being much bigger than this
https://tools.2807.eu/follows?user=mowtendoo
>>101786407>the concertI swear to fucking god if he suddenly appears as a last minute collab for another concert I'm going to riot.
>>101786440Not just Vshojo ? Maybe he is done with vtuber in general
>>101786401>>101786315he still fallows them on twitter
>>101786183>mouse>mel>hime>henya>kson>kuro>michi>no haruka>no froot>no amaThey're out
>>101786411I dont think Henya replied to him or know who he is
>>101786440>still following gunrunphew
>>101786440>unfollowed nazunaheh
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>>101786465Well, he still follows some. So he might have just stayed with the ones he likes. Kinda cleaning his Twitch to be more into what he's watching.
>>101786407Follow up of the list.
>>101786477>>101786495As said, he followed everyone who's appearing, and his marketing was obvious
>make people from those fanbases aware of who he is>be surprised when they are guests on his video>likely promote it after by putting "OMG GUYS I APPEARED HERE"Ama and Haruka (and the NOVAs) likely weren't part of Mouse's plan or had no interest on joining it basedbasedbased
On one hand I don't give af about this dude and would rather Mouse work with good music artists. On the other hand this could be great marketing for Vshojo when they need it most. Feeling very conflicted right now.
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>>101786554He's going hard for more virality.
>>101786456in that case, as long as he films it, he has my full support
>mouse's swimsuit model in the aquarium with bbno licking the glass
What did he mean by this?
>>101786157that's literally what leeching is, and it goes both ways. The Sakura Miko style of leeching where small contributors become her content as flavor of the month.
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>>101783794That would be Connor, who stuffed her in every possible twitch hole
There's the cameo
Two seconds
>>101786666Oof, sorry your ship failed hard, bro. Don't worry, he'll find a fourth sick girl to leech off of.
please kill yourself already mouse
A mighty premiere of 8.4k concurrent viewers
>>101786678The worm had a cameo, it's already peak.
>>101784842Can we post Bat now?
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Well that was mostly disappointing but I don't know what else I expected.
>>101786747Mouse was a glorified voice sample
>>101786738No she is a plus plus but do whatever you want no one can enforce shit here
>>101786747I count this as a Bubi stream
>>101786183All I see is a clout chaser
>>101786647>Mouse says her summer model would be shown for ax>We get thisMouse for the love of god stop overhyping shit.
>>101786747>Mousey above Yung GravyWe're winning.
>>101786747Mint is probably joining Geex cause she's the weird outlier
>>101786747the vshojo en who aren't here are def out
>>101786815I think that other anon mentioning the ax concert makes more sense considering others there. Hopefully that doesn't mean he is joining it.
>>101786801>stop overhyping shit.It's a fucking model, brother, why are you so pressed?
>>101786815Where the fuck does she show up in the video anyway?
>>101786651This guy is the complete opposite to mouse it's so strange. I guess this is how mouse is going to be now too.
>>101786815Mint doesn't appear in the video, tho seeing how there's the chibi model with Michi's on top her head, I think she got replaced at the last minute.
It was likely to promote the concert too
Mouse is missing a great view.
>>101786928Yeah that's weird why didnt Mint appear
Mouse must be jacking it so hard right now
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>>101786958She's not missing it
>>101786975Which channel ?
Good chance the song will pop off big time. bbno$ has been marketing it like crazy
>>101786998It already has 25k Views
>>101786991League week. They got an ice bath punishment and stripped down to their boxers for it. He was just wandering around in his underwear for a bit.
>>101786958>>101786975mouse has much more important things to worry about
>>101785985I'm not questioning what you're saying, but meant to be has helped me find closure after a tough time of feeling lovesick and I appreciate him for that.
>>101786747I'm gonna be honest, either he's still playing down ball with her.
Or he basically grabbed her for an already finished project. As much as the song sucks ass, they aren't done by the time Mouse and him became friends, and neither recording a video. Makes sense why she's only used as a voice sample and the video is just superimposed models thrown in every few seconds.
If I remember correctly, the OTK video was filmed a year before it got released
>VShojo members were roped into marketing the bbno$ video just for them to appear on a small screen among many others for less than a second
>Ari, Candii, and Froggy take up more real estate than VShojo
Yeah, I hate this cringe guy
>>101787111>Blaming him when it was clearly Mouse who told him who she was closest to
>>101787058Yeah, I definitely get the feeling this was a last-minute decision. Pretty clear he saw this as a marketing move to get the song buzz. Like someone mentioned in here before heโs been trying for years now to get back to his lalala level of fame
I really don't want Vshojo to become mere deco for clout chasing fleshies.
mouse should fuck off she's a bbino$ whore now
>>101787091Mouse that is not a win for vtubers. Youโre a fucking replaceable soundbite in the back of HIS song.
>>101787091You know, maybe the years of hearing how she was terrible for gatekeeping this shit weren't all that crazy
>>101787128I hope they at least got paid for having to go along with advertising his crap
>>101787058>>101787132Also I am stunned that Anthony Fantano of all people raved about this song, which also gives it viral buzz. Though I think itโs because Fantano is friends with him.
>>101787139none of the leavers are in it and mouse probably forced the other members into it. mouse doing her best to ruin vshojo even more
>>101787111>were roped intothey sent a 2 second clip to appear in a music video of a song with mouse, you're being a little too autistic about this
>>101787139It's going to be fine but there's clearly a change of direction in Vshojo I get it Change is scary
>>101787091>VTUBER SUPREMACYironmouseviewersalsowatch.jpg
>>101787111Iโm prettyโs sure he thinks heโs doing the vtuber community a favor with this song.
I hate him so much.
You know what?, I may not like the guy, but, nice.
I'll take this as good news, and I needed some good news
>>101787169Not how that works. The exposure is how you are paid.
>>101787182No, Iโm talking about the tweets that they were obviously told to do
>>101787091I'm just happy the kettle is in a Normie video which doesnt involve drama
>>101787191mouse, make sure to open this and stare at it for a long time
After seeing this video, I think this is key to the rift.
Gun and Mouse want Vshojo to moving a bigger direction. Bigger collabs with more well-known people, get the name out there.
Zen wanted Vshojo to be a halfway house for wayward 2views.
After Zen spending he last two years threatening every now and then to leave if she doesn't get it her way, Mouse probably got fed up and told her, okay then quit already!
>>101787202What exposure? That exposure was a joke
>>101787197Yeah, same. I think heโs clout-chasing, but I donโt think heโs a bad guy.
>an influencer rapper gets interested in vtuber shit and puts VShojo and Vchiban into his video
>this is bad for some reason
I don't get this general sometimes
I'm curious if Mouse got Monke to actually record that or if she just used his model. Also didn't Mouse say Bubi was going to be seen again soon? Please don't fucking tell me that was it.
>>101787213>doesnt involve dramaBbnos is a walking drama farm he keeps posting about politically charged things and itโs going to bite him in the ass.
>>101787172>raved about this songDon't overblow it. He didn't rave about it.
>Lot of cute, endearing refrains on this cut>bbno$ is doing his usual laid back rap monotone style>while it's simple, it sounds cool>bumping straightforward dance beat with some hip hop elements in there as well>it's your usual bbno$ formula up to this point>I think those added elements, especially from Ironmouse, do break things up a bit>it's a bop
>>101787238No it will definitely bring attention to the one who were feature not a whole lot but a few people will check them out
>>101787172I watch Fantano on a good basis, and his judgment is often clouded by hearing too much stuff. I feel like he's more judgmental if it's an album than a single release
I like song, and it was nice of bibinos to include some vtubers in his descent into madness and shout them out.
>>101787236Fuck that I would rather vshojo implode
>>101787314Why do you not like about that ?
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I'll add this to the positive news we're getting today. No one commented on it last thread.
>>101787267Vtubing is probably the safest sphere to be unapologetically liberal or left
>>101787261I don't think so she hasn't even mentioned yet that bubi is in it. If it was that she would have hyped it up in a tweet.
I think mouse is the best part of that song
>>101787342JP and EN are in different management.
>>101787342So that's Kuro and Kson and Mouse mentioning big things
>says this shit while collabs with fleshfags the most.
>>101787342are we sure big means good
>>101787412Any amount of Vtuber exposure to the mainstream is a win for Mouse.
Prediction on when this reach 1 millions ?
someone do then funny and TTS Zen that new IM musicvideo is out and she can react to it
>>101787429Kson never talks about negative things
>>101787342I've been assuming we'll be getting someone or something new soon. That's just how things work for companies. If you have bad news that is unavoidable (people leaving, in this case) you bring out the good news a short while after. Long enough to feel respectful, but short enough that it's not going to keep the fanbase down in the dumps for too long. They've always maintained that Henya joining when she did was planned before anyone left and that could be true, but it could also be true that when the leavers wanted to leave they let them out of the contract at that time so that Henya joining shortly after would have the impact it did.
>>101787447at the cost of betraying everyone else ruthless latina
>>101787091Mouse is going to get hate for this isnโt she.
I admit this is pretty out of touch for Mouse. Her friends not vtubers
>>101787375Mouse is the best part of any song.
>>101787452Please no I donโt think I want to hear he say some passive aggressive shit
>>101787447she is not a gatekeeper?
>>101787267Only reason he get away with it because heโs a decent looking Canadian
>>101787452Mouse is the best part of my day
>>101787476Absolutely not, Mouse is a gate opener. Hell, a gate breaker.
>>101787457Hadn't ever looked at it that way but it makes sense. Vei and Silver should have drastically different signing dates, but they left in the same exact announcement.
>>101787167I like Mouse, and i do think sheโs a good person. However itโs clear that she always wanted to hang out with the cool kids instead of the nerds. So if given the opportunity to hang out with Vtubers or IRL influencers, she will chose the influencers 10 times out of 10
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How long until it reach 1 millions ?
>>101787468she deserves more hate
>>101787476Mouse wants vtubing to be the equivalent of normie shit. Which is the singular reason so many people hate her. I'm on the fence myself as I understand why she wants that but I've seen too many things destroyed once they become mainstream to be so accepting.
>>101787567oh yeah it's totally because she's le hecking stuck-in-highschool brained uwu poor unpopular wallflower chungus and totally not just generic, bog-standard grifting/clout-chasing.
>>101787451>>101787583SIRS
SIRS PLEASE 1 MILLION VIEWS 1 BILLION VIEWS WHEN
SIRS I MUST BE INFORM YOU MUST INFORM
My ratts is that Vshojo is about to get merge with Geex+
>>101787583Probably a day or two. It's at 42k right now.
>>101785715fucked pokimane and had a disaster breakup, he fucked her none streamer bestie o7 and does tiktok music with many streamers
>>101787629Unironically yes
>>101787635Its at 100k now
>>101787634That'd be pretty big, actually. I'll take it.
>>101787295Yeah, Iโm sure someone is going to see Hime on that tiny ass screen for a split second and think boy I should sure check out who this Hime Hajime girl is
>>101787259I will reserve most comments until her concert on Twitchcon, mainly if it's paid.
I think Mouse does a good job of connecting with people outside the bubble and while they are nice, this continuous mixing instead of making her famous, it often brings her image down. Because most people who are into vtubers are into vtubers because of it, and the people who don't will never get into it. She can be known of course, but what good does it, if one goes "oh yeah I know Ironmouse from that time Kai joined her" and yet, isn't going to pay to see her live, watch her on her own or buy her merch.
Fans will end up feeling alienated. And new fans don't have the interest yet.
I think the constant chase sucks to see too, as many see it as fake as fuck. If BBNO$ gets cancelled one day, it will be the last time you hear of him from Mouse.
>>101787645>had a disaster breakupOn his side or on her side?
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>>101787680>If BBNO$ gets cancelled one day, it will be the last time you hear of him from Mouse.No shit? You should drop people who get outed for being scum.
>>101787634I'll take that deal lol
It'll actually help the JP girls a lot too
>>101787680>When Connor gets cancelled one day, it will be the last time you hear of him from Mouse.ftfy
PEKE NOOOOO! THE KAYFABE!
all this MV let me know about bbno$ is that heโs a massive narcissist
>>101787728And that's the thing, they want to appear as "we are buddy buddy" but it's just fake shit.
>>101787706I'm dumb it was this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAesSXHQpOw
Normal OP here. Someone else get the new thread I'm busy doing something I hate because Windows sucks
>>101787634Then Ari is technically /in/. As is Giri. And I would be very happy with both of those
>>101787357I think Mouse has given up on Bubi being something to hype. Normally she would have posted him appearing in the video with how rare that kind of thing is but hasn't mentioned anything. Honestly given how little Monke cares about playing him it makes sense. No point hyping something up that no one remembers outside of one song a year.
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WHY YOU NEVER FUCK OFF DUDE
GO TO LEECHATHON VC AND STAY THERE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
Sounds like zen is getting hate raided, so she ended stream early today
>Geega leaves
>Plays every game I wanted to watch her play
You fucking bitch
>>101787820really? by who?
>>101787820How could Ironmouse do this
>>101787820What ? By who ? that fucking sucks
>>101787680It wouldn't even be THAT bad if she had a bigger role or something considering she shilled it far more than her own songs.
>>101787846tribalfags probably
>>101787846>>101787839No clue she just said that she is getting a lot of hate messages all of a sudden and ended stream early all together
>>101787819bro is ragepilled angermaxxing
>>101787819That guy is the worst leech
>>101787839>>101787846nta but seems like zen is doing too well female creator wise right now. she's getting a taste of what mouse goes through but unlike mouse I don't know if zen has the mental for that.
What was the criteria for the Vtuber rooster in that video?
>>101787820>>101787839>>101787846>>101787870>>101787883https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1939758643404239123
not sure if it has anything to do but saw this earlier
and just look at the replies
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How could Vshojo do this?
>>101787356Untill tourist groypers start botting hate brigades against you ala Tricky and Froot
https://x.com/StreamsCharts/status/1939750532421464408
>>101787883>>101787901Yep Mouse got similar threats from this kind of thing. Poor Zen wasn't ready for that.
>>101787941Oh this is probably why
>Look on Twitter to see if any of the hate could be coming from there
>See this
I wonder if it's related lol
>>101787901That would make sense. still sucks tho
>>101787901Yeah, this is it.
>>101787952We don't fucking care about Mouse, quit making shit about her when it has nothing to do with her.
>>101787941>>101787957numberfags are mentally ill, who knew?
>>101787901Yeah that'll do it
That account in particular has a very, uh, 'special' follower base
>>101787901>Has @zentreya been confirmed female?I mean, they are not wrong
>>101787901I fucking hate this kid, he basically gathered a "fanbase" that sucks at asmon, so it's obvious is them.
>>101787689its so weird all you do is bring up connor to sperg about randomly he fucking broke you badly holy shit man.
>>101787996Pretty sure this account was also stoking shit against Mouse during the streamer awards
>>101787941god I hate numberchimps
>>101787996>>101788010its been heavily boosted by pol streamers so you know the type of audience that fallows it
Geega is actually playing with her subs. She didn't do that at all in VShojo. She is actually going full gfe holy shit.
>>101787941they are mad because vedal gort removed and zen was kept
>>101788027This account attacks everyone. It is a drama farm account. You do anything that anyone could hate and you end up there. Any big streamer ends up posted about eventually.
>>101788037>fallowsstop already
>>101788055>Zen leaves Vshojo>first collab is with Swarm>Swarm immediately betrays her
>>101788063That's a different guy.
>>101788051i bet the geegooners are loving it
>>101788063hes refering ot this guy
>>101787901not the charts account is my guess
>>101788055Based for removing that larping faggot.
>>101787986Nah, it's not really that they are numberfags.
The guy basically grifted from fucking r/lsf of all things, he would post shit like attracted drama or Hasan shit, and it was used to shitsling shit to each other. A lot of /pol/ streamers, Asmon and Tectone use his posts, so their audiences started following the kid.
>>101788063Streamchats is another person anon.
Yeet or Awk is a dramafarmer
>>101788055seems fair to be mad about it I guess. sooner or later this was coming back to bite at zen anyway
>>101788072I just scrolled down for a while and it's pretty much entirely glazing Asmon, Tectone, and people like that lol. Yeah I'd say that guy's definitely at least partially responsible for any shit Zen got
>>101786649Miko is the most popular vtuber in the world, it's Miko who is leeching her it's everyone who is leeching off of her
>>101787996Destiny viewers and /pol/fags, yeah
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>he doesn't know
GEEGA is doing stuff people wanted to see for years now because she has to look smart and the 3view dip she had the other day on main after a 2k raid didn't make leaving Vshojo seem smart
>>101787759Michi did this multiple times early on kek
>>101787901>>101787952I hope mouse realizes more of this is going to happen with her current plans for her friends. I would not be surprised if we see some dramafag posting about vtubers being in the music video. She might be able to handle it but will the others be able to? I hope so.
>>101788218anon no one besides people here know lol
>>101786649but enough about vwhorejo leeching vtubing
>>101788263anny invented vtubing
>>101788236anon just looking at his timeline
that account was glazing saba yesterday and so were his followers
Its just a drama/pol account
>>101788287Mouse can't say anything to Zen. She's blocked.
they are so cute arent they
>>101788236Also Ironmouse invented cancer and depression. She is responsible for everything that is bad.
>>101786683sonch on da telly
literally
>>101788342bait all day with you
>>101788369Nigga we're on page 7
>>101788369>no description>no img source>page 7>it doesn't even have the /vsjp/ related, where do you new fag nigs come from?
>People actually moved to the new thread
How fucking stupid are the people posting here
Hello /pol/ here. Please stop trying to claim that asmongold and hasan and destiny are somehow our fault. If any of them say 'hitler was right about the polish question, lizards did 9/11, dogs (except pit bulls) are smarter than people born in the southern hemisphere' then we will claim them. Until then they are, at best, 9gaggers and reddit trollface comic spammers, and we do not want our image besmirched by association with their weak takes.
>>101788236I had similar thoughts, not hating on anything perticular but normies will never understand VTubers and no amount of attempting to normalize a niche community will change this
>>101788911It's just what people here associate with the Kirschefags in the replies of that tweet who try to doxx Zen.
>>101787236Zenโs content is 3D innovation. She thrives with friends, but Zen probably felt Vshojo spending not even a dime on events of upgrades to suit her, is a no brainer. Why give them your money if they wonโt give you help? She has UTA now for what Vshojo did.
>>101788349No, I'm pretty sure anny invented those
>>101789094>now how do I make it about kirscheactually obsessed lmao