Thread 101837348

Q: Why does this matter?
A: Saba specifically brings up it's "Symbolism" in her debut at 12:55 in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYVEIX7nSEs
>(Saba: Do I need to explain the symbolism behind a paper boat or do you guys understand? at 13:00)

FACTS:
>It looks like the Hololive Logo
>She calls it an "Origami Boat" at 13:05 and also "Paper Boat" at 13:07 and many many other times
>At 13:36 she says "I don't know it's so fragile but yet it floats"
>An entire article can be found about the symbolism, as one of the first results you can find searching: https://trickyfish.co/what-does-origami-boat-symbolize/
>TLDR of the article; The origami boat carries profound symbolism, representing embarking on a journey, finding strength in fragility, holding onto hope, and embracing freedom (This perfectly lines up with Saba's definition of it being "fragile")
>One mention in the article states: "It signifies that even when faced with storms or turbulent seas, there is always a glimmer of hope guiding us towards calmer waters." (This lines up with "Ash Again" themes)

Would be kind of neat if cover sued her for trade dress.
I wonder what exactly the line is for them where there business is being damaged enough that they would take on the damage of suing an ex-talent.

>>101837541
what's a trade dress

errmm actually its a symbolism of her solidarity with marimari_en and I very much look forward to their future collabs

>>101837348 (OP)
>The Symbolism of Saba's "Paper Boat"

>>101837953
haha, yeah I'd love to see those 2 collab

>>101838023
kek

>>101837541
the real surprise is that they didn't make them sign non-compete clauses. I guess they don't have those in japan

>>101837348 (OP)
don't they make paper boats and make a wish or some shit in japan, think I saw that in an anime once

Well vtubers are the famous proverbial dream butterfly. You either try penetrate their being only to recoil at the last moment in a Cartesian fashion or you just take the leap and believe in them and thus turn the make-believe into something else entirely.

>>101838138
according to origamiheaven.com

>paper boats in japan
>The origami boat, a symbol of hope and resilience, holds profound cultural and symbolic significance in Japan. It represents the human spirit's ability to endure and overcome adversity, as seen in its use during the 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami. The origami boat serves as a powerful symbol of community strength and determination to rebuild.

>>101837919
As an example If you have a bottle of bleach that looks like clorox (same color, patterns fonts) but it's not called clorox you're basically pretending to be another company's product. It's not exactly copyright. Saba's not guilty of that of course, that's why I think it'd be funny.

>>101837348 (OP)
>something coming out the side of her head.
>qr code in her ID leads to an anyeurism clip on yt
>all other symbolism points to pedo culture and pedo punishment
maybe saba is doing it on purpose or she's being used, either way, its all very sus.

>>101837348 (OP)
were 'papah boat' her first words or something? why the hell does her chat spam it like it means something? I've watched her and heard her talk about it but it doesnt seem like it warrants catchphrase status.

>>101837348 (OP)
A paper boat takes on water and sinks under its own weight after a while just like she will

>>101841685
>or she's being used
???

>>101838107
Non compete clauses are unenforceable and illegal in the West. She was completely checked out of hololive so she didn't give a shit about violating etiquette.

>>101838107
They do, but the non-compete only means they cannot join another agency which does any sort of business in Japan, for some set period of time - presumably one year, based on the time between Coco's graduation from Hololive and Kson joining Vshojo; but definitely not longer than that.
"Doing business in Japan" doesn't just mean they can't join Japanese vtuber agencies like Niji or any of Brave's agencies, but also overseas agencies which do any sort of business in Japan at all, such as "allowing viewers with Japanese IP addresses watch streams and vods" or "allowing customers with cards issued by Japanese banks to buy official merch" or "allowing people physically living in Japan to officially join the agency as vtubers." That last one is why US-based Vshojo needed to wait as long as they did before they could hire Japan resident Kson.

Yes, Saba lives in the US, where non-compete clauses are not worth the paper they're printed on. But Cover is based in Japan, where their non-compete clause is valid and enforceable; and non-JP agencies which intend to do or are doing business in Japan would be wary of hiring her (assuming she ever had plans of joining any other agency in the first place)
>>101839046
Store brands are a thing. picrel

>>101842471
And that's why cover is so eager to make talents move to Japan, so they can enforce that restriction on them. Saba is showing other talents what they can do in the land of the free.

>>101841963
She repeated it like a million times in her debut stream

Can paperboats float on semen? TuT

>>101841963
Not her first words, but both the way she said it and how often she said it like that are what turned it into a meme. See also "FLOWER"

>>101842522
Except their non-compete clauses do not prevent them from being indie vtubers. Hell, their actual employment contracts do not prevent them from being indie vtubers concurrently with being Holopro vtubers.

>>101841963
she kept saying it autistically like a jap would say pineapple pen
it's cute

>>101842466
do you know how entrapment works?
you bait someone, then once you've instilled guilt, they come in and execute you.
everything about vtubing has to do with entrapment on a cosmic level, (elaborate spellcraft, rituals, etc)
the question is, who is working with saba?

i like the fish, i'd be pretty sad if i found out she was a type of masonic honeypot, you know?

>>101842707
>it's cute
and funny

>>101842775
Don't worry, I have some special protection crystals to sell to you which will ward you from eldritch witchcraft and black magic. But they don't come cheap.

>>101837348 (OP)
i like Urbandictionary's definition of Paper boat
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Paperboat

>>101842921
anon, i have bad news and good news.
which one do you want first.

>>101842921
give me your strongest crystals

>>101841685
>she's being used
I think Saba leans a bit much into lolicon pandering but there are financial benefits. Who knows how she really feels about it but the kids watching her wouldn't understand the hidden subtext and so far it has been subtle.

>>101842775
It's not that malicious and vtubers are selling an illusion.

>>101837348 (OP)
shut up schizo

>>101837348 (OP)
I understood it as a reference to her mental state. She is still swimming, but very fragile and folded easily.

>>101843235
>It's not that malicious
if there's one thing i know about japanese culture (and this is an offshoot of that), everything they publish is extremely malicious, and detrimental to all that consume it.

there's a reason why japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, and if you check who is tied to that high suicide rate, lets just say, idol culture is a gun being aimed at you just waiting for the right time to pull the trigger.
everything they do follows a pattern with the same end, a dead consumer of their content.

peipabote

>>101837348 (OP)
This is reversing and making out lyrics to Michael Jackson's "This is it" tier bs

can saba put her legs behind her head?

it's a symbol of being a grifter
>give me money i'm fragile i need simpbucks

>>101837348 (OP)
You are giving her too much credit anon. Have you seen her streams? She is not as smart as you think.

>>101837348 (OP)
I don't think it's that deep.
It's about her mainstay and popularity on the internet and she fact she's tiny and fragile, yet stays afloat.

>>101837348 (OP)
It's the new term for cunny, now that cunny itself has entered the mainstream.

>>101837541
>sued for blue triangle.
That would be dropped immediately, would cost pretty hefty amount of money and would immediately and permanently ruin Cover's reputation. That would be worse than everything that Nijisanji ever messed up.

>>101838107
Gaou drama exposed that this is what the Affiliate thing was supposed to do but only Ame was stupid enough to sign it

>>101850119(me)
Also something that >>101842471 pointed out - Saba's presumably living in USA, Cover is Japanese company. The sheer cost and length of this purely theoretical legal case makes it just not worth it. There's American branch of Cover but they were mainly created to deal with merch production and distribution so it's questionable if they have tools and resources for this kind of stuff.

You Americans are so trigger-happy for calling to sue someone but absolutely don't understand that this is not some magical kill switch for every minor issue. Especially in this case it's just not worth it.

>>101843361
anon why are you on this board?

>>101845259
probably, she's very flexible

>>101843361
Explain why post-Soviet countries got the top places on the suicide rate board along with some African countries and SK? Japan in "only" on the 19th place.

>>101838405
>they wanted her to put in minimal effort as a talent
oh the humanity. i'm so proud of her for overcoming this literal hell on earth

>>101842707
>pineapple pen
more like po pi po

Paper boat!

>>101842635
so basically she tried to force another "a" but it didn't stick as well

>>101842775
That must be some premium grade delusion you're on.

>>101843361
Not true, I want my fans alive not dead.

>>101837348 (OP)
The paper boat symbolism is your standard "stronk woman" thing. It floats on despite it's fragility, like how Saba is continuing her journey, yada yada yada.

Also the little man in the boat is her clit.

>>101837348 (OP)
Ah and here I thought it was the crown of a self proclaimed (and rightfully so) queen

The only paper boat I know about is the one in IT that gets a kid killed

the fragility of life is feminine in nature and would only apply to the self-sacrificing or devout it isnt relevant to me if im doing absolutely everything i can to guarantee an early death fuck you and your boat

>>101837348 (OP)
>looking this deeply into a fucking paper boat quote from the queen of grifters

never change vt schizo's

>>101837541
Cover has nothing against their former talents so this isn't happening even if she made literal Gura 2.0, much less a paper boat of which a part somewhat resembles their logo

>>101854988
>fent dealer doesn't want her buyers dead
ok marimari_en

>>101851436
i got extra, but you can't have any.

>>101850802
i like to suffer