I'm not saying she was the only reason.
But I am saying the Dooby leaving was a major factor in Saba leaving.

>>101846138 (OP)
It is the only reason.

>>101846138 (OP)
if so, based.
loyalty to good friends is worth more than anything else.

No stream and bad conclusion lol whore no stream the black company false allegations lazy whore hololive good

>>101846138 (OP)
Maybe, but it's more likely both of them were considering leaving for years. They've been checked out for a while. If Ame had any real influence on Gura's departure, you'd think Gura would've taken the ame way, right?

If anything, I think it's equally likely that both decided to leave completely independently. Dooby seems to have been at least somewhat inspired at Doki's relative success after being expunged. She even reached out directly to Doki (who subsequently fangirled out because she never expected that to happen) for advice and collabs.

In the end, this is a major, serious career decision they couldn't have taken lightly. They were on top and they knew they were on top, so throwing it all on a gamble going independent must've taken a LOT of consideration.

>>101846788
what lmao

>>101846829
It's Gura being obsessed with Ame, not the other way around. Ame wants to keep helping Hololive when needed, Gura just wants the yellow pussy.

>>101846138 (OP)
It's Aqua, she's her oshi

>>101847692
And she never streams either.
It all fits so well.

>>101846788

>>101847692
>>101847735

And both overlap fellow talents too.
>I am seeing a pattern here

>>101846788
This is like an ad lib of buzzwords.

>>101846788
meds

>>101846788
did your bot break or are you typing from india?

>>101846138 (OP)
Ame, Gura, Fauna and Mumei all handed in their resignation at the same time
Ame was let go first because she took the affiliate option and obeyed the company and did what they wanted, the rest were queued up while they tried to use leverage over them to force behavior
I'll never forgive them for the bullshit they pulled with the nendoroids

>>101846829
>you'd think Gura would've taken the ame way, right?
Fauna didn't, and Gura trusts that she has bigger brain than her, so she decided to go full graduation route too.

>>101846138 (OP)
But we know Gura quit before Ame left (the problem is we know Ame intended to leave years before she did). The fact is, it's very likely those girls all decided to milk the company for all they could and quit extremely early on when fans were complaining about them and all the signs they were bad streamers and fighting with management actually were them planning to leave all along. People act like the reasons they left had anything to do with what's going on now when they never even participated in the modern Hololive and checked out long before the reforms.

>>101848886
You do realize it was wrong of them to greenlight the Nendos if what you're saying is true, right?

>>101849677
It could be they were stuck in some sort of contract until the dates they graduated.

>>101846788
Most coherent saba hater

>>101846138 (OP)
Waiting for keeki to insert herself

>>101846138 (OP)
she left together with SNO not dooby

>>101850375
Nobody's arguing there wasn't some sort of "shove this shit all out the door" at the end. But obviously there were contracts and such to consider and the day you quit mentally is not going to necessarily be the same as the day you let the company know you quit. Given their behaviors, it's highly unlikely most of them (except maybe Ame who was very naive) wanted Cover to know they were quitting until the last possible second.