>>101850934 (OP)
Condom and picrel

holoseethe

>>101850934 (OP)
PHASE TROOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>>101850934 (OP)
Edgy jokes to pander to (You).

>>101850934 (OP)
The most obnoxious fans out there, also even without watching them I somehow know about what feels like a dozen of them having had yabs just by being on /vt/

>>101850934 (OP)
Half their cast following and boosting BVTM’s original account

>>101850934 (OP)
Seethe from the haters

>>101850934 (OP)
their viewers are brown white supremacists who love bbc porn which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me

>>101850934 (OP)
Right wing pandering g grifter

>>101850934 (OP)
I wanna slap you

>>101851063
>>101851075
This almost entirely applies solely to pippa

>>101850934 (OP)
safe edgy

>>101850934 (OP)
dramafaggots

A rickety poorly constructed bridge, managed by incompetent chink that some how survived for 4 years.

>>101850934 (OP)
>mfw

>>101850934 (OP)
TROON CONNECT

Good company.
Minimal layoffs, no internal drama.
All the yabs just make sense to unicorns and Twitter faggots, even the normies don't care.

>>101850934 (OP)
The logo is ascii semen

>>101850934 (OP)
The official cuck and trans company.

>>101853424
Pippa x camelot scandal

>>101850934 (OP)
scapegoat company for whatever /vt/ feels like seething at this week

>>101850934 (OP)
cuckoldry, some troon pandering (you know who you are), and politics (but not really because its just a grift). basically everything wrong with western vtubing.

>>101850934 (OP)
liars

>>101850934 (OP)
>What do you think of when you see them?
Flanderization of "edgy" Vtubers, with the newer gens seeking out more ways to "win" a devoted audience. Such as playing Dustborne or subtle winks to the audience to say that they are one of the good ones. But the metrics speak for themselves.

This itself is something Phase fans refuse to admit. The more gens they get, the less people care; much like NijiEN. Invaders such as Clio (who in the lead up to being hired, was deemed a slut and trans by some on /vt/) has surpassed any sort of achievement ALiAS or Euphoria have had.

I often ask so called Phase fans to name someone from the newer EN gens and they proudly cry "Clara" as this great got-ya, forgetting she is in JP. Erina, Wemi, Hina, Runie, Muu. Just so many forgettable names. Gen 4 won't fare better.

>>101855280
>>101855029
>>101854714
>>101852561
>>101851002
watch streams, Clio is obviously female

>>101853424
>an actual corpo bootlicker
GRIM

>>101850958
yikes

>>101850934 (OP)
Most of phase is actually alright, but having a drama whore as its face doesn't help things.

>>101855517
phase is nothing without pippa.

>>101850934 (OP)
Most annoying fanbase of all time

They're cool! :D

>>101850934 (OP)
0,6% Connect

>>101855402
If a company treats girls well, I have no reason to criticize it. Can you say the same about others?

>>101850934 (OP)
Real talk from a neutral viewpoint: I'm not sure. Fishman's job last year before Off Kai worked in that I wanted to know more about the other members. I think Shiina likes idol stuff or some members like singing and dance. Pippa is interesting to hear takes on off topic stuff and geek culture. The drama part of the fandom with a political chip on their shoulder that orbit Phase turns me off completely. Unfortunately from out here I hear more about Kirsche and her triggering a cancel mop/mass would be shooter than I do about Phase projects and signature stuff the girls are up to. Heck I didn't even know there were that many girls in Phase until Fishman put out that music video.

>>101856771
>neutral viewpoint
>Fishman
lol

>>101850934 (OP)
>trannies
>/pol/
>BVTM

>>101850934 (OP)
Pippa corpo filled with doxxfags, dramafags and poflags. Most of the discussion about phase is done on doxxsites like kiwifarms or its alternatives

Some of their talents are coold, some are wierd, some are unhinged. Their fanbase are bunch of stinky obese white and brown basement dwellers. Their room party smelled like used diaper and bad BO combined.

>>101856823
Yep. That's how much of a normie I am with Phase. The CEO of Phase then for now. Happy?

>>101857156
As if it wasn't obvious enough.

>>101850934 (OP)
vtubers for people who don't actually like vtubers

>>101857419
>vtubers for people who hate vtubers
ftfy

>>101850934 (OP)
flayon's cocksleeves

>>101850934 (OP)
>blacked cucknet

I don't watch them but they upset the right kind of person.

Dizzy's tits

>>101850934 (OP)
I think /vt/ because otherwise without any exaggeration I wouldn't know they exist

>>101850934 (OP)
The girls? Fine except pippa
the fans? "Oh fuck not again."

>>101850934 (OP)
I think about how their fanbase is so repulsive that I refuse to watch any of them anymore.

>>101860949
You’d probably assume Pippa has a few million subscribers just from reading this, right? At least as many as someone like Nyanners.

>>101850934 (OP)
/vt/ making things up about them and/or exaggerating or clinging to even the slightest of rrats about them, and being more hatefully obsessed with them than their fans are lovingly obsessed with them.

>>101850934 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGHsxMqpL0c

Decent corpo. A lot of underrated talents that covers a diverse pool of taste. CEO despite being an idiot sometimes seems like a genuinely pretty good dude. Kiwifags and the like give the corp a worse reputation than than it deserves. Airi is great and I love her.

Sometimes I wonder what it is about this group that attracted so many girls who one after the other all get found out to be NTRing their fans

>>101850934 (OP)
They're ok. Pippa is overrated and not even close to their best talent. They have a few good gems in there like Clio, Jelly, and Clara. Really wish the godamn CEO didn't push himself onto streams and all the merch.

>>101861812
Ironic that one of the girls you mention constantly brings him up

They do have talented people. I would watch if they weren’t such fucking headcases. Also, the company actively invites dramafags into the community which is why the scene has a huge problem with them.

>>101850934 (OP)
Cuckoldry, worst fans, low-tier bottom of the barrel pickme women

Every day the same Antis feels good owning space rent free

>>101850934 (OP)
>lots of seething
>panko

>>101861812
>merch
hes in like nearly 0% of the official merch.
and blame the fans anyways, multiple artists have said the reason they make so much fan merch of him is because it sells the best.
otherwise, basically all of his on stream appearances are talents asking him to come on. unless you're complaining about the superchats which is fair.

>>101856771
Tsunderia was my favorite small corpo and while I still like the girls that moved to Phase Connect, I kinda just fell out of it and only watch them if I'm in the mood. Not that the girl changed or anything, but the fans are just shitters that ruin the experience. They can't be fucking normal for some reason, not to mention the usual antis for holo too.

>>101862554
This

>>101862703
>be normal
im not sorry anon, i cant take that seriously being said by someone /here/.

>>101862813
There are degrees of normal, and while the average /vt/ user isn't, phasefans are still fucking retarded even if we take that to consideration.

>>101850934 (OP)
grifters

>>101862916
yeah nah, if you're /here/ you're already too far gone to get to ever complain about that (yes that includes me). trying to use 'degrees of normal' is just a laughably delusional cope. just say you hate phase fans like 90% of the board is ok doing and move on, instead of being silly about it.

>>101850934 (OP)
Some of the talents are neat and I’ll admit I’m genuinely kinda curious about the coffee, but mostly I just enjoy watching people have a meltdown arguing about them.

>>101863003
Why yes I dislike phasefans, and I'm explaining exactly why. When people start up shit it's always them because they can't be "normal" retards about it, they have to be extra retarded.

>>101863102
and you're no worse than them.

>>101863388
Still better than phasefags shitting on holos and propping up anti accounts - which are my point for contention.

>>101850934 (OP)
I only watched Jelly and Uruka and I like them both a lot. I hate most of the other ones and I am indifferent to Wemi and Airi.

>>101863515
and the antis /here/ will regularly bring up phase unprompted.
this place is a cesspool from everyone in every fandom in every way 80-90% of the time. complaining about one over the other here is nonsensical, /vt/ is the biggest antis of vtubing there is. if you're here, dont complain about normal, you lost the right awhile ago.

phase connect carved out a niche audience doing every thing the ''wrong'' way and that pisses people off

Im still a fan, but i became more of a lurker after xalamon amd sakana ruined the fun of the community

>>101863623
Literally 1 guy can keep the anti thread /here/ going for ages, not an argument(now more blatantly with no IP counter). But if you look at twitter every dramafag/anti is somehow following Pippa and her friends.

>>101863623
Shit here should stay here. Not drag that shit to visible public spaces and boost accounts that actively shit on other corpos, including hololive. Don't give me that "we're all the same" bullshit here because I don't do any of the shit. I don't even actively anti phase connect /here/ unless you count me voicing my grievances as one, and even if you do that I don't target any specific girl.

>>101863724
It doesn't take much for the company or it's talents to tell those fags to pipe down, but they never did that.

>>101863724
>goalpost moving
anon i get it, you're butthurt because you feel called out, but i've been consistent about /here/ so talking about elsewhere is irrelevant, and anyone normal to any degree would not be wasting their time trying to hard to defend themselves/here/ against me.
you've only proven my point about you, which is ok, it means you fit right into this community.

>>101863623
phasefags literally post anti shit about other vtubers in chat
every dramafag coincidentally is a phase shill
every fucking time someone says something retarded about vtubers on twitter they watch phase and kirsche
phase vtubers spread anti narratives about other vtubers on their streams
phase vtubers collab with doxxagi and reply to bvtm and parrot on shitter
phase vtubers make people like rima their channel moderators

>>101850934 (OP)
Huge fanbase of dramafags and grifters.

>>101863823
0/10 ragebait, try again, your favourite corpo fanbase is still most cancerous in existence, rivaling chinese sisters.

>>101863750
we're talking in general anon, no shit.
I dont like hololive but this right here is literally the most anti-holo message i've ever typed. doesnt mean that in general, anons here arent shitters about their opinion on the corpo.

>>101850934 (OP)
Rei's piggy little fingers.

>>101863823
That wasn't even me, retard.

phase bitches that i like
>wemi (shes wetawd)
>muyu (shes a cute piglet)
>mariomario (shes swag )
phase bitches that i don't like
>all the others

>>101863854
>>101863881
like i said, not normal behavior, but thats ok, like i said, you fit right in here which is ok. its only denying it thats wrong.

>>101863908
*in general* phasefags are faggots because they are complicit to what their faggots are up to. I'm not saying every phase fan is a faggot, nor I am blaming the talents, but if the faggotry is coming from the same source, then maybe they are faggots.
You can make the same argument for hololive fans, sure, I'd agree, but the ratio of faggots isn't even close.

>>101864006
>Not blaming the talents
I blame Pippa

>>101864006
i mean if we're being fair here i have never seen more faggotry from any fanbase as much as the nijisisters.

>>101863938
>phasefags constantly harass and slander vtubers
>fans of those vtubers post on an anonymous forum that they don't like phasefags because of this behavior
>these two acts are somehow equal
braindead third world zoomer

>>101864047
fuck you dood

>>101864120
being delusional is not normal, and you anon, have not one normal bone in your body.

>>101864109
Women can't be faggots, they don't count. They have no illusion that they can be reasoned with.

>>101864176

>>101864189
nijisister is just a term, it includes male fans.
...unless you're trying to say something about male fans of niji, of which i wont argue agaisnt you on that.

>>101864220
anon, being obsessed with anger is not normal.
you're just as much the part of their fanbase 99% of vtubers hate as much as those you are complaining about.
which makes you not normal, but a perfect fit for being /here/.

>>101850934 (OP)
>sakana you fucking piece of shit where's my fucking merch?
>also stop deleting pages for sold out merch to hide estimated shipping dates you fuck
>Airi sex, Hina sex, Ember sex

>>101864297
phasefags are the angry retards harassing the vtubers i like for no reason though

>>101864332
and other vtubers fans harass other vtubers, phase or otherwise, all the time for no reason all the time.
its far from exclusive to phase, whether its more or less common, so giving an obsessive fuck about them specifically is obsessive, which is not normal, liked by the general community, but is liked and regular here.
if phase disappeared tomorrow, the problem would not be solved by any major degree (.6% of the market), but you would still find som other group to care too much about. because you're a /vt/fag and too removed from the word 'normal' to understand what the word actually means.

>>101864332
the vtubers you like are haughty and deserve it

>>101864465
It's not exclusive to phase but sure is more common among them. How is that not indicative of a fanbase that is complicit, and encourages retards to act like they do? Not a single one is told by the fans, the talents, or the company to control themselves when they decide to shit on others.

>>101864465
other vtuber fans do not harass the vtubers i like, it's phase retards 99% of the time
other vtubers do not spread retarded /#/shit rrats about the vtubers i like, only pippa does that
idol fans and vtubers did not do that
prism fans and vtubers did not do that
project kawaii fans and vtubers did not do that
only phase and their third world /pol/tards fished straight out of asmongold's chat

>>101864580
How the fuck are holos, who mostly stay in their own lanes, haughty?

>>101864597
Asmongold's chat is probably more civil in comparison, truth be told. Not to mention he actively polices shit when they go out of line.

holofans will fuck with rushia to this day
not even 6 months ago they harassed this little cafe until they canceled her maid cafe,
Nijifans are well....niji fans
most of the example of phase being bad is twitter screen caps of someone going ''i think hololive SUX''

>>101864590
well with that logic, the holo fanbase is the most toxic out there. maybe not % wise but there certainly is more of-
well on no the niji fandom is worse by sheer numbers there a better example probably.
also, lol, even pippa has more than once called out her fanbase on stream. i've seen several fans call out others, such as when the jelly nugget shit got out of hand. i've seen NO company call out their fans, and you shouldnt want them to. its not their job and they do best to be a step removed from that.

again, obsession without even knowing what the talents have actually done, is an irrational, silly obsession that is not normal, and is far removed from normal, which is really my only point and each post is just more proof of my point. which obviously i dont mind but its still funny.

>>101864597
see? utter delusions and blindness to the overall community.
/#/s for examples spreads so much # shit about everyone and they despise phase. anyone that pays half an attention to this place knows both those things lol, but someone unormally obsessed with hating one single aspect wouldn't.

>>101864772
>maybe not % wise
That was the point, retard. If a higher percentage of your smaller fanbase are retards, than a bigger fanbase with a lower percentage of retards, then it's easier to say that smaller fanbase is composed of retards. And because it's smaller, it ought to be easier to corral but no one is doing that.
Has Pippa ever told btvm to fuck off? Or do they silently tolerate it because it promotes the company?

This board will prop up the 'Phase Boogeyman/scapegoat' even after the talents, company, and 4chan itself all inevitably cease to exist.

>>101864896
its really not a higher %, certainly not as much as you make it out to be.
dunno, unlike you im not unormally obsessed with every aspect of a single corpo. but i do know shes called out her fans on stream and twitter more than once, which should be enough for any normal, well adjusted person.

The fan base problem could be fixed by the talents telling the worst ones to fuck off. It would be highly effective for example, for Lumi to tell Grixit to fuck off. But she won't, because she's a coward.

>>101864845
is that somehow supposed to excuse pippa parroting that same shit on her streams?

>>101864896
The retards in hololive may appear to be a lower percentage of the total fans because of all the normies who aren't terminally online browsing /vt/ that dilute fanbase. Or they hide themselves away on the tower.

>>101850958
fpbp

>>101865076
So you're saying they may appear to be a lower percentage because... they're lower in the percentage?

>>101865074
you dont watch streams.
but you do care about her more than even most of her fans do, lol.

phasebutas hateboner for hololive is fucking funny

>>101865156
why would i watch shitta's streams when she and her turdie fans hate and harass the vtubers i like?

>>101865064
This. Tenma did it right but the others won't.

>>101865287
because none of that happens, and certainly not in the past few years.
least not from the talent, but hating one fanbase for something all do is obsessively silly.
you are a very silly, unserious person anon, the type of fan not even your oshi would want around.

>>101865287
this guy is the sayu simp i can tell this writing style anywhere

>>101865350
proof?
because if so thats hilarious and explains alot.

>>101865348
but all fanbases do not do this
it's literally always phasefags

>>101865348
>it's ok to be a faggot if everyone else is a faggot
>no you shouldn't call out faggots for being faggots

>>101865416
certainly faggot behavior to be this obsessed lol.

>>101865399
they do though and its not always them lol.
the obsession causing blinders here is hilarious, you are a very funny person.

>>101865495
If Fanbase A is doing more bad things than Fanbase B, then it follows that Fanbase A contributes more to the bad things. It is not equal.

>>101865495
it's quite literally almost always phasefags who harass the vtubers i like
i'm sure there's some other groups who harass some other vtubers but that's not what i'm talking about and also not something i particularly care about

anyhow, i've got some stuff to do today, so im hading out of this thread, because my life doesnt revolve around obsessively hating one corpo, unlike others /here/.
have fun with that though, or well, clearly you're not, which is the point, but you'll clearly never understand that.

>>101865573
0 actual arguments provided this entire thread
bravo zoomzoom

>>101865152
I'll assume you're not just being disingenuous or baiting. The take away was that the ones online, that people see and interact with, are just as numerous (%-wise) as any other fanbase.

>>101865732
Then why the fuck the most of the "online fanbase" who are antis just HAPPEN to be from phase connect?

>>101864220
I mean, he's not wrong

>>101850934 (OP)
Not sure how fair it is or isn't to Phase, but I honestly mostly just think about the right-wing political shit (mostly around Pippa), and some of their fans being obnoxious shitters here.

Phase hate is so forced. They have like 30 members who all are vastly different from each other. Any open minded person can find a member they would enjoy watching

>>101869480
>Niji hate is so forced. They have like 30 members who all are vastly different from each other. Any open minded person can find a member they would enjoy watching
See how you sound? I won't watch anyone from both of these disgusting corpos as long bad actors are there

>>101869586
As long as bad actors are there*

>>101869586
I like Rosemi. Most people do. A lot of people like Scarle too. People watch all the girls who left Niji too. So no its not the same, Niji is just an evil company. Maybe some Holodrones feel that way but thats just delusional

>>101869934
when sakanas rampant abuse of his talents hits the mainstream you will still defend phase like they aren’t just smaller niji

fake-based pickmes and reactslop

>Boyfriend Connect
Far too many of the talents have been doxxed with BF yabs. The fact that many of them do gfe connect like shiina and lumi makes this much worse. Vtubing will heal when phase talents graduate en masse

>>101851439
So not very incompetent at all then.

>>101872191
Do you have proof of this?

>>101850934 (OP)
Filthy and vile rabbit whore's followers

that I like 10ma+jerry and ignore the rest
also pippa is a furfag

>>101872191
>>101872264
The fact that phase antis are complete schizos and absolute unicorns is quite telling

>>101850934 (OP)
Pickmes for edgy teens and SEAs.

Phase thread. Phase board. Phase website.

>>101872191
one of his talents rammed his brand new car into a boat at a rented air BnB and he just shrugged, how would riku react i wonder

>>101864597
This, 0.6% but committed 99% of the crimes.

>>101864845
>despise phase
It is not hard to do it, even other indie chubba hate them.

>>101855517
>doesnt help things
Pretty much every night before bed i hop on /vt/ just to see people whine and cry like babies, for no good reason, about phase. Its very entertaining, and makes me like phase more the more of it I see. So ill have to respectfully disagree here.

>>101874125
Phase world.

All they'd have to do to DRASTICALLY improve their fanbase would be policing them the tiniest bit, which I'm not sure I've seen any of them ever do.
Guess that's more daunting when you court exclusively polfags, doxxfags, and actual would-be terrorists lmfao.

>>101850934 (OP)
worst fanbase

>>101850934 (OP)
They somehow cultivated the worst fanbase in the industry.

>>101850934 (OP)
Unironically /pol/ and /x/.
I keep wanting to give them a go but it's a hard sell because yeah I think /pol/ and /x/ are shit.

>>101850934 (OP)
Aside from that one anon who said it's a Vtuber corpo for people who hate Vtubers (which I agree with), mainly how obnoxious their fans are about shilling them and how this board literally never shuts the fuck up about this stupid corpo ever

>>101850934 (OP)
The most obnoxious CEO bootlickers in vtubing

>>101850934 (OP)
Case study in why the fans of something can make or break its appeal. Also living examples of content creators always ending up with the audience they deserve, for better or for worse.

>>101850934 (OP)
They make retards on /vt/ seethe, so they must be doing something right.

>>101850934 (OP)
Living rent free in /vt/'s head

Senpai, Gomenne </3

>>101889603
Why people get caught up in a joke NTR situation when Pippa and Lumi exist is weird

>>101850934 (OP)
senpai gomenne

>DUDE PHASE IS SO BASED AND EPICSTYLE
>ITS OVER FOR HOLOSLOP

>>101850934 (OP)
They are pretty cool, they embody the idol journey from nothing to a big brand. They had to work for their success.

>>101891779
paying flips to shill you to culture war tards is hard work

>>101891779
Truth nuke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKA5TIrq0a0
phase survived against all odds. even if they die now their journey has been fun to watch,

>>101850934 (OP)
that I need to update my filters again so you disappear again

from a outsider who only got into vtubing in 2024 it always felt like people hate phase because their fans actually fight back, a lot of people feel that small corpos should just ''be humble, let us shit on them never say anything back'' but phase fans aren't afraid throw shit right back, every small corpo gets treated like garbage even if they do things the ''right'' way, might as well do things the ''wrong'' way

>>101864322
I stopped buying phase merch because I'd buy it in february and not get it until november. he needs to stop being a fag and let people who know what they're doing ship the merch