Thread 101852330

Sakuna has to change models because her artist is a degenerate rivaling the avarage Sabatard.

>>101852330 (OP)
Autism.

>>101852330 (OP)
sakuna lost my respect for this

>>101852330 (OP)
I was waiting for him to possibly do aqua lewds on fanbox but i guess that's not happening anymore.

>>101852505
WHy? She's doing the right thing here

>>101852538
Caving in to social pressures and throwing her own integrity down the toilet is "the right thing"?

>>101852559
What, you want her to go down with Gaou is that so?

>>101852330 (OP)
World of difference between how she handles controversy vs how Mike handles it

>>101852473
No, the term you're looking for is Pedophelia. Autism is when you can't manage stress properly.

>>101852559
There is a difference between supporting a lolicon and supporting an actual child molester. I thought we all discussed about it during the Saba blowup

more importantly are there any scans for the rem collab doujin

>>101852559
>Anon only replies to half the post because he has no real reason "why" or he knows his reason is so pathetic anyone would laugh at him for it
Kind of tragic.

>>101852330 (OP)
kek

>>101852559
what a retarded post

>>101852605
Lmao closed pedos everywhere. Lolicon satisfies exactly the same sexual urges cp does. The Japanese culture still hasn't been completely pussy whipped into Western cognitive dissonance on that topic, though we've been trying hard for decades now.
If lolicon isn't the same as cp, child molestation isn't the same as sex with a minor.

>>101852748
ESL.

>>101852748
anti lolicons are so retarded

>>101852748
>If lolicon isn't the same as cp, child molestation isn't the same as sex with a minor.
You might want to rethink that argument chief, it's not suggesting what you think it does.

>>101852788
Well to be fair at least they're not trying to argue they're not sexually attracted to children because they only like drawings of children, that takes a special kind of retard.
>No I'm not gay for jacking off to images of two faggots fucking! It's just a drawing bro!

>>101852810
>everybody who likes playing CoD likes killing
Hmm...

>>101852581
That would be the honourable thing to do.
But women can't into honour.

>>101852748
To be fair, literally nobody believes there is anything wrong with AI cp and yet laws still get made against it and similar stuff because nobody wants to only be able to arrest someone after they rape a kid so they punish the thoughts instead.

>>101852831
>Guy complains group of people is retarded
>Proves himself the biggest retard in the room with a comically stupid false equivalence
Thanks for proving my point lad.

>>101852846
Fuck you subhuman you just want Sakuna to be destroyed for your own vile whims. Fuck off.

>>101852851
>literally nobody believes there is anything wrong with AI cp and yet laws still get made against it
Then who made the laws if nobody is against it, dumbass? Can you stop to think for even a second before you hit post?

>>101852559
That's just life. I don't like Sakuna doing this either, but as a public figure, this could severely impact her career.

>>101852862
how is it different

>>101852330 (OP)
what did he do?

>>101852917
How are pink elephants different from a blue sky?

>>101852330 (OP)
Looks like anti defamation law works for multibillion yen companies only.

>>101852885
I should have specified morally wrong. Laws get made against tons of things that nobody thinks are morally wrong, often to make law enforcement easier or to cover the government's exposed ass on a variety of common issues they can't actually resolve honestly.

>>101852810
Women be like:
>nooo you can't prohibit gay sex, what two men do in the privacy of their own room doesn't affect you!
>what?! loli?! you can't jack off to that in the privacy of your own room, think of the potential negative affects!

I bet Michael Cat is rejoicing so much right now knowing sakuna is suffering from this setback

>>101852885
>if nobody is against it
Only women are against it.

>>101852991
lmao she's about to make generational wealth on her next model reveal

>>101852922
diddying a 14y/o

>>101852330 (OP)
What does lolicon (attracted to moe drawing pictures) have anything to do with committing a crime by being a child molester?

>>101852930
What you're doing is a false equivalence.

>>101852590
You don't know what either of these words mean.
>>101852922
He had a consensual, but illegal relationship with a minor, she regretted it and leaked it to korekore.

>>101853023
The crime was only that he was stupid enough to set her aside after he was done with her and she got jealous.

>>101852605
>>101853035
>14y/o
>child

>>101852969
At this point I have to wonder if there's something about being a pedophile that predisposes you to laughably stupid false equivalences. Dumbass the two arguments aren't even remotely similar, what the fuck are you doing?

>>101853046
>Y-you're a doodie-head!
I accept your concession.

>>101853038
I'm noticing a complete failure at answering the question. Odd. Do you not understand how to answer the question you yourself asked? Are you stupid?

>>101853065
It's not a false equivalence just because you said it was, woman.
The equivalence is the privacy and consent of actions. In BOTH cases, all parties are consenting. The drawing consents by default, because it doesn't have a will.

>>101853065
Exactly, the parallel would be jacking off to gay porn or to cp. Either both are wrong or neither are.

>>101853064
>A pro-pedo anime said so!
Lol.

>>101853095
I'll leave my concession inside a dictionary, that way you can both epicly win this Internet debate and also realize what a fucking moron you are for not knowing how words work.

>>101853110
>It's not a false equivalence just because you said it was
Correct. It's a false equivalence for the reasons I had given, namely: "the two arguments aren't even remotely similar".

I know reading is hard when you are retarded, but you should really try to do a little better.

>>101853113
This would only be true if the objection to gay porn and cp was identical, which it is obviously not, retard-kun.

>>101853122
The DSM-IV said so.
And that's a psychology anime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mental_disorders_in_the_DSM-IV_and_DSM-IV-TR#Paraphilias

>>101853139
Right, right, because obviously you are incapable of explaining yourself despite your obvious and clear superiority.

In reality, you're talking out of your ass and hoping nobody notices.

>>101853161
>It's a false equivalence because [gives the generic definition of false equivalencies]

>>101853161
The objection is literally exactly identical, while the support is identical too.

>>101853046
>consensual sex
>she regretted it and leaked it
ah, classic

>>101853190
Leftists (women) love to accuse others of what they themselves do.
It's probably literally in their tactics books, to throw people off by deliberately being stupid.

>>101853187
You should really try to read the things you link before doing so, anon, it might prevent you from looking like a complete clown as you do now.

Make sure you read it properly, don't just skim it, it's not a difficult read but apparently you're still not managing.

>>101853190
>Post two arguments that are entirely dissimilar
>"N-no you cannot point that out! That's CHEATING, you can't just point out it fits the definition of the term you used to describe itttttt!!!!"
Lmao. Is that the best you can do?

>>101853234
>You should really try to read the things you link
'psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.'

>>101853219
Define the objection as you understand it. I could use a laugh.

>>101852559
I also disagree with this decision. The illutrations did nothing wrong. This mentality is so backwater
>oh noo this person did something controversial. now all their actions and creations, even those that have nothing to do with the controversy/crime etc., are controversial by default
Retarded.

>>101853273
>don't just skim it
Ah. I should have expected someone who is illiterate to not get that part.

>>101853303
>now all their actions and creations...are controversial by default
It's a woman thing. Men don't do that.
Democracy is a woman's system.

>>101853303
>She could just get a different artist to work with another artist's model!
Bro you went full retard.

>>101853325
Boring.

>>101852846
Even Mishima recognised that was folly.

>>101853333
Remember where you are, anon, glass houses and all that. I know it's hot this summer but your brain can't be that cooked.

>>101852330 (OP)
Yeah, I completely understand not associating with him for any future projects but why does she have to stop using the model and other stuff she already paid for and owns the rights to?

>on the phase board people are mad that a 40 year old got fired for fucking a child
nooticing

>>101853358
>Y-you can't tell me to go read something I linked, I was the one who told you to read it first!
Ah, pot calling the kettle boring, I see.

>>101853189
>pedophile
Attraction to 14 year old girls does not make one a pedophile since pedophilia describes attraction to prepubescent girls.
He could be a "hebephile" but that would require you to prove that he is exclusively or at least primarily attracted to girls in mid-puberty, since incidental attraction to 14 year olds does not qualify for hebephilia.
There are many other reasons why someone would prefer younger girls other than physical attraction, one of them being it's easier to manipulate or impress them.

>autism
Not being able to handle stress is not a necessary trait for autism, even if many autists have issues relating managing stress due to their autism.

>>101853263
I think we all understand what a false equivalency is.
If you want to dismiss a false equivalency, you have to actually explain what makes the two situations disanalogous.
Were we to use your logic as precedent, then all arguments could be dismissed just by citing generic definitions of fallacies, which would lead to everyone saying precisely nothing of value.

>>101852559
Saba will ditch her loli model in the future too

>>101853387
>>101853358

>>101853390
Why are you the only person that made the distinction between pedophile and hebephile in any thread I've seen about this situation?

>>101853347
That happens all the time retard

>>101852912
>>101853303
Let's assume for a second that your premise isn't completely retarded and she continues using the model because she "doesn't want to waste the work that went into it" or something stupid.
What's she gonna do when she wants to get new outfits? She's up shit creek.
Even if you're a stupid fucking moron who somehow thinks the guy did nothing wrong, because you're an idiot, replacing the model would still be the right choice.

>>101853187
>>101853273
Bro thought he was slick by splitting hairs between 13 and 14 with an outdated version of the DSM when the professionals already closed that loophole.

>>101852330 (OP)
>>101852810
>>101852559
/vt/ would defend actual molesters and child groomers, but will attack lolicons
classic /vt/

notice how the ones against lolicon never replies against the ones who are pro grooming 14 year olds
it's as if they are a team, or made by the same person even

>>101853528
>What's she gonna do when she wants to get new outfits?
Commission an artist?

>>101853528
What's wrong with doing a 14y/o?

>>101853390
>Attraction to 14 year old girls does not make one a pedophile
>"Pedophile definition: an adult who is sexually attracted to young children."
Now, you might end up like that other retard and bring up the DSM IV, but that just proves you don't know the first thing about psychiatry or the difference between a term and a medical definition. Feel free to try, though. Overall, you're being a pedantic little bitch and you're not even correct about it.

>Not being able to handle stress is not a necessary trait for autism
Incorrect. While the triggers may differ depending on markers within the spectrum, the end result and actual problem autistic people face is becoming 'overstimulated' by stressors because their brains are unable to regulate stressors the same way other people do. Autism is attached at the hip to similar conditions like ADHD, but you wouldn't know a thing about that either.

>I think we all understand...
In which case it's odd to see them deployed so rigorously and shamelessly throughout the thread, no?
>If you want to dismiss a false equivalency, you have to actually explain what makes the two situations disanalogous.
Only insofar as their supposed equivalence was first established. Since that never happened, you are once again impressively incorrect.
>Were we to use your logic as precedent
Ah, and you were just saying "I think we all understand what a false equivalency is." and yet here you are employing one of your own. Do you not understand, or are you intentionally bullshitting? Take your pick.

>>101853064
IRL children cannot be moe. However, I would accept that a person can be both moesexual and a pedo, which results in some unusual examples, such as that one brat who was discovered preying on children (or it stems from Bae not being loli or moe enough, IDK). But ultimately, they are two distinct sexual orientations, and debating with people who are attracted to "moe" things, which are outside the domain of 3DPD, would not address real-world problems.

>>101853544
>child or children (usually less than or equal to 13 years)
Umm?

>>101853570
>>101853544

>>101853303
It's not hard to understand why she, as a public entertainer would want to distance herself from her artist when the artists commit a crime. People would dog on her for the rest of her career for "supporting a pedophile".

>>101853608
>doubling down by greentexting what I highlighted
Smartest pedo.

>>101853303
Your line of thinking would be correct in many situations, but not this one. The model is like half of her entire brand. People could forget and disregard the taint if Gaou was just the rigger or something, but there's no way she's ever wiping this clean without a fresh start.

>>101853473
I think most people got tired of pointing that distinction out to Americans ten years ago when it became obvious they are simply too retarded to view reality as it is. They are the only "people" who get confused on these same issues time and time again. If you asked them to name the 100 worst pedophiles, they'd come up with a list of 100 people who were into teenagers and sometimes even young adults.

>>101853616
>Anon doesn't understand the basic working of the DSM
>Keeps citing it while refusing to read anything that isn't the basic definition which, most importantly, isn't *strict*.

>>101853704
>Anon doesn't know what the word "usually" means
>Makes a complete fool of himself acting like it means the opposite to what it actually means
Funny guy.

>>101853642
You are one of those retarded people that can't separate art from artist. Such people can criticize all they want. If they dont understand that Sakuna has nothing to do with it they dont matter.

>>101853704
Yeah, because it's literally what I said in the beginning. >>101853273
If you're urguing the weasel word 'usually', then that goes both ways, not just the way you think it does.

I've had my IQ tested by doctors, it's high, so trying to scare me into silence, by saying only retards argue for the current topic, isn't going to work.

>>101853303
will holocure dev remove aqua because her model was made by a pedo now?

>>101853734
>isn't *strict*.
Again, that goes BOTH ways.
If somebody reaches puberty EARLY, then what? The 'usually' applies here too, retard, in that they are NOT a child any more, and attraction to them would not be considered, pscyhologically, paedo.

>>101853570
>accurately defining terms is pedantic
someone never covered semantics in uni

>>101853729
You are falling prey to what I described: atributing crimes of artists to their art.
The illustration did nothing wrong. Why are people going: artist bad = art bad? artist =/= art
Artist bad = art bad or good, if good continue usage.
That's how it should be if people weren't stupid monkeys

>>101853770
>>101853801
Do I need to spell it out for you? Arguing that someone who molests 14 year olds can't be a pedophile because 14 year olds are USUALLY not prepubescent is disingenuous and asinine.

>>101853704
>that pic
I guess all your favourite leftist inellectuals are actually retards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-of-consent_laws
>Michel Foucault argued that it is intolerable to assume that a minor is incapable of giving meaningful consent to sexual relations.[3] Foucault also believed consent, as a concept, was a "contractual notion", and that it was not a sufficient measure of whether harm was being conducted.[2] Foucault, Sartre, and newspapers such as Libération and Le Monde each defended the idea of sexual relationships with minors.[4]

>>101853895
Wait, so you're now you're arguing that because someone who exclusively fucks 80 year old men COULD be a pedophile and just not act on it, therefore anyone who had sex you don't like can be mislabeled a pedophile without evidence?

>>101852590
>the average pearl clutcher can't even spell the thing he's afraid of

>>101853895
>is disingenuous and asinine.
No it's not. In fact, is literally based on scientific study and agreement.
What YOU'RE doing is disingenuous and asinine, because you're ignoring the science.

>>101852330 (OP)
Can anyone give a quick rundown?
What did her model artist do?

>>101853887
You speak the truth, and it changes nothing.
Sakuna's doing what she must.

>>101853989
Hooked up with underage girls.
Proceeded to publicly admit this on a stream with one of the girls.

>>101852330 (OP)
>holo anti
>esl
phase fan?

>>101853473
Emotionally-loaded topics usually favor those who reduce nuance.
This topic is as emotionally loaded as it gets, which is why slogans like "Kids can't consent!" muddy and in most cases even shut down all possible discussion that relates to adolescent sexuality.

>>101853544
>Feel free to try, though.
Try what? I have already summed up the definition in the DSM-V-TR.
>While the triggers may differ depending on markers within the spectrum, the end result and actual problem autistic people face is becoming 'overstimulated' by stressors because their brains are unable to regulate stressors the same way other people do.
ASD has a wide variety of diagnostic criteria that can't be sufficiently represented just by bringing up overstimulation, hence why you immediately alluded to ADHD as a differential diagnosis.

>Only insofar as their supposed equivalence was first established.
I agree, but that's not what the conversation is about.
You've said, verbatim,
>Correct. It's a false equivalence for the reasons I had given, namely: "the two arguments aren't even remotely similar".
which is a far cry from asking someone to substantiate their equivalence.
I am not going to respond to you again on this point, since it's seeming to start to loop.

>>101854019
Sounds like a creep, but isn't the age of consent in Japan like way lower? Or he admitted to rape or something?

>>101854019
BASED.

>>101853772
I can, i downloaded everything he has drawn to preserve in case he nukes it all. But again, Sakuna as a public figure using the model he made would just keep getting herself associated with him, either by actualy retards or just antis wanting to stir shit. It's the safest choice for her career going forward to distance herself from him as much as possible.

>>101854077
The minimum age of consent has been 16 for 2 years now. And in any case before that there were only like 2 prefectures where it was below 18 anyway.

>>101854019
>publicly admit
bruh, did he even talk to a lawyer?

idc if he hooked up with a 14 yo, girls that age are horny as fuck, like HORNY as fuck.
What disgusts me is that he cheated on his wife with her.

>>101854077
It was moved up from 13 to 16 in two years ago

>>101852851
>>101853010
Police officers are against it, because it muddies the waters when they're trying to find and rescue real victims, and take them out of the whore life.
No child should be a whore, and no woman or man should be, either.

>>101852505
>artist admits his career is over because he fiddled a 14 y/o
you mean gaou lost your respect for this

>>101853544
The keyword is actually prepubescent.
After puberty, humans (which are animals) are sexually mature and physically capable of mating. It’s criminal to act on such urges if you are an adult but moralfag society can never erase a male’s biological instincts to perceive sexually mature members of the opposite sex as potential mates.

>>101854077
Underage in this context would always mean lower than the legal age, whether the legal age is 21 or 12. Although I actually don't know of anyone claiming he's in legal trouble, I don't think the girl (who is now an adult) has any interest in pursuing legal consequences, she knew that ruining his life socially was easier for her anyway.

>>101853562
Because he's either ruining a virgin, or contributing to her decline into whoredom. It's better if he marries her. Pussy isn't free

>>101854128
>>101854150
Makes sense then.
I remember some celebrities dating JKs in the 80s/90s like it's a regular thing there.

>>101854077
The Japan "low age of consent" thing was always wrong. It used to be like 13 country-wide, but it was raised to 16 recently, and most of the individual prefectures had it at 16+ for the longest time.
He did with a 14 year old.

>>101852330 (OP)
Didn't Gaousama write a doujin about his experience?

>>101853915
>all your favourite leftist inellectuals are actually retards
They honestly are for thinking that the mass pump-and-dumping of their nation's virgins could be anything but a catastrophe.

>>101854184
Why can't you just stick to mentally mature sexually, mature women, you weirdo? It's not that hard unless you are mentally ill.

>>101854196
I can accept that view, but that it isn't an argument as to why doing a 14y/o is bad, just why being a whore (male or female) is bad.

>>101854248
Old women are old.
You'd understand if you weren't a woman.

>>101854208
JKs are 16+.

JK1 (High school 1st year): 16
JK2 (High school 2nd year): 17
JK3 (High school 3rd year): 18

>>101852330 (OP)
>having sex with JK is degenerate
what are you a wizard?

>>101854132
Doesn't seem to have been any legal action yet.
Girl may file a police report, he may turn himself in, both were still mulling it over on stream.
Regardless, his public image is trashed.

>>101854208
JK's are legal in every civilized country, unless you live in some third-world shithole they are definitely legal in yours.

People need to stop phrasing it as if he went out and kidnapped some child to fuck.

She sought him out herself when she was 14. She suggested they meet up after chatting for 2-3 months (from somewhere in August to somewhere in October).
She admitted on the stream that she was the one to suggest they meet up and she went to his house and had sex with him.
Afterwards she kept wanting to meet up and he blocked her (again this is what the girl herself says but he later confirmed happened).
Later met again online by happenstance on a different account under a different name when she was 15 and they talked online for two years and then met up again when she was 17 and had sex again.
He didn't know who she was for those two years and even when they had sex as she was using a different name and had different hair color.
She finally told him who she was when he broke up with her again a few days ago and went to korekore to leak the whole story.
And again, he went on stream and confirmed this and apologized to her on the stream.
Gaou said that if she filed a police report he'd turn himself in.
Korekore managed to talk her into filing a police report and telling her parents (which she hadn't apparently). (She posted a screenshot of the message she sent to her mom on korekore's stream as well...)

>>101854266
Exactly. He should marry her to pay for the damages for destroying her hymen.

It's best for girls to get married, instead of becoming pathetic old used goods that people like >>101854299 look down upon.

>>101853915
>you must be left-wing because you oppose pedophilia apologia
>20th French leftists support pedophilia apologists, checkmate!
You must be one of those people who thinks everyone in Africa drops dead at 35 because the life expentency says so. The average pedo is still a borderline retard.

I thought the age of concent was 14 in Japan, whys this artist in trouble? Or am I missing somthing?

>>101852605
Someone who already bought and paid for something should stop using it and spend more good money replacing it because the guy who made it put his dick where he shouldn't have? There is literally no other industry on earth that would subscribe to this nonsense.

>>101854157
The distribution of AI-generated CP will proliferate regardless of whether it's illegal or not.
Given enough time, AI-generated CP may phase out creation of real CP by >90% in the near future, simply because CP generation is an extremely risky crime, and fictional content can fulfill a much wider variety of sexual interests.

However, in your world, benefits like treating AI-generated, indistinguishable CP as a surrogate for real CP to minimize harm are still lost, since a pedophile will not be incentivized to just stick to fake CP if both are illegal.

>>101854380
korekore should kill himself holy shit

>>101854383
>pay for the damages for destroying her hymen.
very bold of you to assume she had a hymen left to tear lmao
this chick is a full blown landmine

>>101854359
>his public image is trashed.
Nobody in Japan actually, inherently cares about doing a 14y/o. But he did break the law and that, per se, is enough to tarnish your reputation.
It's like the opposite of America: where in America, you can rob a liquor store and nobody would really care, even though you broke the law, but do a 14/yo? Social suicide.

>>101854248
People are sexually mature post-puberty. This is early teens for most.
It’s wrong to plap teens if you’re an adult for societal reasons. Lots of social ills.
It’s pervy and wrong in general to be the type of person who goes around ogling women of any age.
But it’s incorrect to call someone a pedophile because they find teens attractive.

>have sex with junior high school girl
>image trashed
Oh wow you guys are so high moral suge

>>101854380
So basically, Gaou is the only victim apart from Korekore ruining this girl's life for one stream's worth of attention on him.

>>101854132
>>101854359
law in japan is retarded anyways, he could've denied the accusations and sued the woman and won. Even if the accusations are based on fact.
So the thing that doesn't make sense is why did he go to this drama niggerfaggot Korekore? Why are so many people willing to talk to him even when it will ruin them

>>101854380
He should have married her instead of using her as a prostitute
It's best for her

>>101854093
Who cares about antis and their dumb opinion?

I doubt he'd get more than a slap on the wrist even if she files a police report.
Even on kore's stream it seemed pretty fucking obvious she was the one who pressured and borderline stalked him

>>101854436
>What is accountability?

>>101854436
>law in japan is retarded anyways
>is the safest country in the world
Hmm...

>>101854380
what the hell, was he really good at dicking girls that she made the effort to find him again to have sex again? wew.

>>101854385
In the future they will change the age of consent to 21years old.
My point is the authority are the one who is in charge of setting the bar for rules and regulation.
So its better to die a virgin just in case some girl wanna sue you for raping them when they are 20 years old underage in the future.

>>101853046
Anon, having sex with a 14 year old can not be consensual as their brains have not developed enough to fully understand the consequences nor the act in of itself.

>>101854494
Fast Forward 2050:
Anon, having sex with a 21 years old cannot be consensual as their brains are not developed enough to fully understand the consequences nor the act itself.
BLA BLA BLA

>>101852587
>>101852991
RENT FREE

>>101854494
Fourteen years are legally allowed to do each other (ten years can legally buy condoms). What's the difference if there's an age difference?

The woman arguement:
>muh power dynamics!

>>101854051
Hey, I think you meant to reply to
>>101853570

>>101854521
go fuck yourself evil spirit!

>>101854390
Sorry, boss, I can't come in to work today. I found out my mechanic is a pedophile so I can't drive in till I buy a new car and send this one off to an auto recycler. Ohh, but is it ethical to allow new cars to be built with pedo tainted steal? Guess I'll drive it off a cliff instead.

Its just a Me Too moment when a girl wanna get revenge on a guy because I REGRET HAVING SEX WITH HIM

>>101854494
Shhh anon, predators can't understand that there can be multiple psychological factors at play

>>101854380
So this girl is end-stage menhera and stalked Gaou for years just to get his dick?
That seems so weird.
If she just wants to get fucked I'm sure she could effortlessly find dozens of guys to gangbang her at a moment's notice.

>>101854494
anon, woman brains never completely develop

>>101854494
That is not at all how consent works. 14 year olds can consent to having sex legally and nobody fucking cares, as long as they are having sex with each other. Nobody thinks they can't consent. The rules against having sex with them as adults are based on the same principles as not having sex with your family or your employees, etc.

>>101854471
Well I dunno how the law is in Japan about this but I imagine the prosecution would still spin this as le grooming or something, you know how everybody loves to take away accountability from minors
For all the people who say Japan doesn't care, that really doesn't seem to be the impression I'm getting, Korekore's listeners have been absolutely brutal about this and he has a shitton of listeners, they've been echoing pretty much the exact same stuff you'd see from the west, but then maybe it's just them?

A 14-year old being horny and menhera doesn't excuse a grown man sleeping with her. I can't believe I have to say this but here we are.

>>101854554
Not even that, she got mad and ran to korekore to leak everything because Gaou DIDN'T want to have sex with her.

>>101854544
Sorry, I have this problem where I type something, want to edit it, then only partially edit that part of the post.

>>101854591
Victim blaming. Of course.

>>101854446
Do you not know about the traitor list? How new are you?

>>101854516
>21
You sick fuck! The prefrontal cortex doesn’t finish developing until you’re 25 you fucking pedo.

>>101854248
>Why can't you just stick to mentally mature women
you can't have what doesn't exist

>>101854591
I just wanna tell you to not have sex because woman will always regret and will get revenge on you (maybe you are a woman I don't know or maybe your a tranny haha).
DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH WOMAN, ITS LITERALLY AN ACT OF SUICIDE TO YOUR CAREER OR LIVEHOOD

>>101854494
>have not developed enough to fully understand the consequences nor the act in of itself.
>nor the act in of itself
penis goes in vagina, retard-kun.

>>101854566
She wants Gaou's dick specifically, anon. Only Gaou. She wants him so BAD. Gaou probably sensed the menhera within her and tried to walk away, too bad she found him again

>>101854561
Women should be kept in the kitchen again.

>>101854587
The Act Age dude raped (actual rape, as in against their will) highschool girls and didn't even go to prison yet

>>101854380
Gaou is like a 40 year-old married father. If he doesn't have the discernment to take the initiative and call the whole thing off before it got to the point it did, he's no fucking victim.

>>101852581
what in the fuck did gaou do?

can't wait for gaou to get exonerated and everyone to get egg on their face

>>101852330 (OP)
Ayamy is waiting

>>101854587
Japan's laws are generally pretty civilized which is why the online mobs end up frothing at the mouth when the punishment is a slap on the wrist. But the masses are just as cucked as Koreans and swallowed all of the feminist propaganda.

>>101854644
Based Japan.
Fuck women.

Its a dangerous world out there folks, just look at Mikeneko, Matsuri and those EN vtubers, they are mentally ill. If you are a man, do not ever give in to temptation and do not have sex with woman, they will skin you alive and make your life hell.

>>101854644
Since when does groping count as rape? Jesus fucking Christ you people are delusional.

>>101854643
Yeah yeah, I miss the 20th century too
Get with the times old man

>>101854644
I never heard that he raped.
I only heard he did bicycle drive-by gropes on JKs.

>>101852964
>Laws get made against tons of things that nobody thinks are morally wrong
and you're arguing this is one of them? lol lmao kek

>>101854666
Japan laws are changing, they are more FEMINIST now. That is one of the reason why Japanese male are turning into betas and are afraid to marry Japanese female.

Marry her before fucking her, or don't.
Whores are menhera and diseased
Owning a car is better than renting a car
>b-but muh cheating
Fuck her every day and she won't cheat

>>101854683
He pushed his fingers inside of them at multiple counts, that's rape.

>>101852846
Nah, you're just an anti fuckwad looking for an excuse. Eat shit.

>>101854689
Culture is cyclical, foid :)
You'll return to the kitchen soon enough.

Exempli gratia:
1920's women were whores, 1950's women were forced in the kitchen.

>>101854587
First time offender, known professional, wasn't violent, didn't actively seek her out (blocked her after one night), confessed and is apologizing profusely. JP police won't do shit. At most he will get mandatory mental health rehab, a fine and a suspended sentence with an order not to approach any minors for like 10-15 years.

>>101854666
>Fuck women
No thanks, Satan.

>>101854703
Who the fuck are you pretending to confuse him for?

>>101854653
nuMeru didn't commision her for the model?

>>101854723
You're a resentful one, aren't you?

I feel bad for Gaou's daughter.
She will be a laughing stock in school.

>>101854494
Hmm but they can undergo life-changing gender transition, chop off their boobs and pretend they are men alright.
Interesting how you woketards think.

>>101854723
Women returning to kitchen would require men get paid enough to acquire and provide for a household and that will never happen. Sorry chud.

>>101854723
That will be good because there will be no more whores.
No more used goods, only purchased goods.
The unmarried landmines will be in prison or mental institutions.

Women are very realistic and cruel.
Before the scandal she was super friendly with Gaou and even flirted with him on stream.
When the scandal broke out, she's like hey goodbye dude I don't know you.

Holy fucking based Gaou! Dating and Fucking a hebe is peak male performance!

>>101854380
The issue isn't who started the sexual encounters. It's the fact that he had sex with a minor in the first place. If you kill a suicidal person because they begged you to, you would still be charged for manslaughter/murder. It is still seen as wrong.

The moral of the story is: don't fuck whores.

>>101854757
Yes and that will fix itself when women get out of the job market.

>>101854757
Yeah, and it's happening because women were psy-op'd into wanting careers, doubled the workforce, reduced the value of labor and wages with it.

Tragic.

>>101854698
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
>In the experiments, Calhoun and his researchers created a series of "rat utopias"[2] – enclosed spaces where rats were given unlimited access to food and water, enabling unfettered population growth.
>By the 600th day, the population was on its way to extinction. Though physically able to reproduce, the mice had lost the social skills required to mate.

>>101854790
Get with the times, grandpa. People are no longer retarded about suicide laws.

>>101854790
This is just plain strawmanning dude.
This discussion will be endless and both of you will just keep arguing and shifting the focus to other shit.

>>101854783
She's playing a pure idol type character, if she kept working with a known child predator after this it'd endanger her brand

>>101854794
Menhera, not even once

>>101854737
He is neither confused nor pretending, he is just either a retard or more likely a shitposter who is trying to pretend that groping some girls' asses is the same as raping them.

>>101854787
He didn't marry her, so it's not peak male performance.

>>101854756
Anon if you think only the woketards want to keep you from your loli hentai I have a bridge to sell you.

>Fubuki REPO stream starts
Okay guys goodbye. It was fun reading lefties comments here.I wish you a good day and power to the woman!

>>101854798
>implying

>>101854794
or just don't date a teenager or a girl who way younger than you. there will always be generational gap that you would never be able to breach. That disconnect will always certainly cause some kinda fuckery on the long run when shit doesn't work out. i'm speaking from experience

I fapped to Gura's doujin, am I going to jail now?

>>101854852
Literally 50% of the workforce would disappear, so yes, he's correct, men would get more jobs and more pay.

>>101854845
At least they are consistent. You woketards have double standards.

>>101854813
There is no arguing here anon.
I'm the one who posted >>101854380 and it's obvious as hell that he fucked up and really should not have done what he did no matter how much she pressured him.
There just seems to be this perception going around that what Gaou did was akin to luring a perfectly normal plain ordinary 14 year old girl into a white van and groomed her to be his living fucktoy, when in reality it's more that he simply wasn't strong/smart enough to resist temptation when she threw herself at him wearing lingerie.

>>101854889
Man, not even what I'm referring to

>>101854756
>Hmm but they can undergo life-changing gender transition, chop off their boobs and pretend they are men alright.
NTA, but the operations you mentioned isn't allowed, by laws, to be done on children below 18. Even in the US it's 16+ for the top and 18+ for the bottom.

>>101854812
Depends on the country, ya degen.
>>101854813
Ok, explain to me why breaking the law/moral code is acceptable if the victim wanted it. Even if the victim is seen as a vulnerable person who cannot understand the full ramifications of the action.

>>101854747
Considering my country has banned male hobbies because women vote, yes, yes I am.

>>101852330 (OP)
qrd

Sakuna more like SUKuna

>>101854893
I’m not a woketard. They are retarded, but pretty ineffectual.
The evangelical right wants to throw you in jail with CP charges and is building the legal pathway to do so.

>>101855002
So is Gura doujin a Cheese Pizza according to your imaginary "EVANGELION RIGHT"?

>>101854794
THIS! Don’t put your dick near anyone who'd subvert social norms unless you want society to kick your ass!

>board (rightfully) suspicious of male vtubers for their intentions
>proceeds to make tons of excuses for an actual 3D sexpest
lol

>>101854877
You should play the look through Gaou's books and try to figure out which are based on his affair with a child game instead.
https://exhentai.org/tag/artist:gaou

>>101855002
I'm looking forward to Project 2025 and the shitstorm that will ensue. Ban all porn and whores.

>>101855023
>Texas Senate Bill 20 doesn't exist

>>101855055
>Zero Gura doujin
Sorry m8 not interested

>>101852590
Mumei...

>>101855055
https://exhentai.org/g/3423899/00b98784cb/
It's pretty obvious anon...

>>101855054
This board IS filled with women afterall. Of course they'd protect the criminal.

>>101855054
I am more interested in this rhetoric
>Korekore is a liar
>Korekore is telling the truth!

>>101855023
NTA but that's basically what they want it to be. Mainstream US rightoids fucking hate anime or any foreign non-dubbed media, the "people" who think they are otaku allies are absolutely deluded.

>>101855023
Yes, but if you don’t even know what the evangelical right is, you’re either not American or so retarded and insulated from politics that you aren’t worth talking to about it.

>>101854913
Yeah because Trump took office.
Before that 12-year olds could be on puberty blockers, hormonal therapy, etc. And it's not like woketards dont advocate to allow children to transition so I dont understand your reply.
And there also have been cases of 13-year olds undergoing gender surgeries like the case of Layla Jane.

>>101854380
Out of this entire post i finally understand why people despise korekore. What a massive faggot, i hope he an heros on a rake

>>101854380
>She posted a screenshot of the message she sent to her mom on korekore's stream as well...
Korekore is really milking this for all its worth, jesus christ

>>101855002
I dont understand your point.
The point is woketards want that plus gender surgeries for minors. Your whatabaoutism at least is consistent in their beliefs about minors unlike woketards who think minors arent mentally prepared to have sex but are mentally prepared to undergo life-changing gender transitions.

>>101854380
Goddam why are women so retarded?

>>101854648
a minor

>>101855337
One involves a child and one adult in a bedroom the other is a consultation and evaluation between the child, their parents, and medical professionals. Hope that helps clarifies things.

>>101853548
>>101852605
You guys are so fucking stupid!
Arrest the child predator, kill him if necessary, but what does his drawing have to do with it?
The drawing was already paid for, if it's possible to get a refund I would understand, but damn it, it was already paid for, why are you going to change the design? And if you find out that YouTube is run by a bunch of pedophiles, will you stop streaming there too?
Stop being idiots.
Supporting a lolicon is paying more to him, what is already paid is gone

>>101855337
Know that you have more enemies than woketards.
>>101855560
>One involves a child and one adult in a bedroom
Loli doujins don’t involve children or adults. They’re drawings.
>>101855560
>the other is a consultation and evaluation between the child, their parents, and medical professionals. Hope that helps clarifies things.
Shitlibs are actively trying to remove parents from the equation and to push gender affirmation on people with less oversight. Not to mention all the tacitly-encouraged communities for getting drugs without a diagnosis or prescription.

>>101852559
Anon this is a hilarious thing to be a contrarian retard over. See it through.

>>101855601
Sakuna's brand being tied up in the image of a confirmed child predator is a huge red flag for potential sponsorships and can absolutely bar her many, many, doors.
This is one of the few cases where it's actually kinda important for her to figure things out and move on as quickly as possible.

>>101855679
Nah, she's fucked. Going to korekore was bad enough, but then actually following his advice means she's a brand risk.

4chan being retarded as always, news at 11.

>>101855768
Anon...?

>>101855601
Branding. She doesn't want her brand associated with a criminal, same as the other projects that have dropped and replaced him.
>It's already paid for
It's also not so valuable that this matters.
She owns the design and can work with someone else to bring it to life.

>>101855601
She's literally in the process of starting a beauty product lineup using Gaou's design anon.
Do you REALLY believe that's going to go over well for her?
The faster she memoryholes ever having had anything to do with him the better for her.

>brown board
>seething when pedophiles get their comeuppance
Like a clockwork

i think that having sex with an 8th grader/ a freshmen is bad

>>101855601
I'm sure Subway would agree, and yet there's a pretty dark specter looming over them to this day.
https://youtu.be/zem5bQ4SzMI

>>101852330 (OP)
All that "she was a minor and didn't know what she was doing" is honestly just a doctrine promoted by decadent "cultures", everyone at a very young age knows that making contact with strangers online is wrong, plus she was clearly an obsessed stalker, the problem here is that he realized his mistake and tried to cut off contact but ended up coming back, which means he's not really showing any remorse and will continue doing it.

>>101855909
If that were the case she shouldn't have posted about it at all.

Qrd

>>101855560
>one involves a child with an accepting and affirming adult boosting the girls confidence and giving her a lot of pleasure the other involves a child and a bunch of mentally ill degenerates massacring the childs body and giving it a lot of trauma both physical and mental, often leading up to suicide.
Hope it helps.
ftfy*
We can play like that all day

She's guilty by association already

>>101854756
Indeed.

'A regime [the Third Reich] which invented a biological foreign policy was obviously acting against its own best interests. But at least it obeyed its own particular logic [as opposed to Marxists, who preach freedom and enact gulags]'.
- L'homme revolte

>>101854141
Don't forget he had a child in elementary school, dude left a broken home behind him to live out a pedophile dream

>>101856294
retards in this thread i swear

>>101854141
That's a retarded excuse, it's like saying teenage boys are aggressive and risk takers so it's okay to put them in dangerous situations. We know kids will act retarded if we let them and we also know that it ruins them and that's why there are protections against it

>>101856294
You don't know what that word means, brownoid.

everyone talking about pedochild, but where the fuck is the TLDR!? Is she talking about her model artists or what

>>101854188
Is she an adult now? Then why did it take her this long to regret it

>>101855679
>Sakuna’s brand being tied up in the image of a confirmed child predator is a huge red flag for potential sponsorships and can absolutely bar her many, many, doors.
This is actually a pretty excellent example of how Japanese society views lolicon and actual sex crimes.
The guy has drawn a bunch of loli porn and nobody cares.
He actually touches a minor, and people react negatively to him.
This is supposed to be the view that western lolicons espouse but interestingly they want to defend the actual touching here too.

>>101855054
I'm in actual awe reading this thread right now.
The guy not only cheated on his wife but willingly fucked a godamn child, HOW do you even defend that shit?
>but she le consented
>but it was le exposed years later because kid had remorse
Not an excuse, he's a grown ass man and should know better than to sleep with a child.

>>101856589
see>>101854418

>>101856590
A lot of the discussion ITT is completely off topic because OP deliberately sniped unrelated lolicons to bait

>>101856590
>should know better than to sleep with a child.
What's wrong with that?

>>101855099
neck yourself tranny

>>101855054
>>101856590
people didn't care about this gay shit 1000 years ago, they won't 1000 years from now either

>>101854380
I’d like to know what was wrong with her for this to happen, though kids can easily think they’re in love when they aren’t but I think they’d know better than meeting someone triple their age and sleeping with them.

And the streamer is a fuck for doing this publicly. Like the artist deserved it but not the girl. All these journalists who do this and think they’re calling out evil are no better.

>>101856590
>exposed years later because kid had remorse
She has no remorse. She ran to korekore with her story since she got mad he wouldn't keep fucking her and wanted to ruin the guy's life.

>>101852559
>>101853303
Can't be bothered to (you) every retard in this thread, but did it ever occur to you that maybe she's not "caving to social pressure" and that maybe she is personally disgusted by Gaou's actions that she personally does not want herself or her brand associated with him anymore? It's not that hard to believe that a person would not want to associate with a married man who cheated on his wife with a 14 year old, you know.

>>101856735
Who fucking cares.
>the kid I fucked just wants revenge because she's a bad person!
Both of those things are totally or partially the offender's responsibility

>>101856702
Look at /asp/, early /lig/ and early /wvt/ for proof. I'm not a femoid but there ARE more females here than other male focused boards.

>>101856792
The offender is the woman.

>>101856846
I denounce Mohammed

>>101856782
>browns are an inferior race
Umm, leftist bros?

>>101856782
I mean their religion prophet literally fucked 6 yo

>>101856790
>married man who cheated on his wife with a 14 year old
based, especially if the cunt wife wasn't bearing him many children

>>101856841
those weren't even women dude, it was manager bfs trying to push women on your retarded asses

>>101856860
Then stop saying 'refugees welcome', you stupid foid.
You're the only ones letting them in.

>>101856887
Newfag they literally streamed themselves replying to the thread.

>>101852330 (OP)
>random Saba seethe
Nice of you to paint your colors for us. Going to make a Dooby or Nimi seethe thread next?

>>101855601
Why are you talking to us as if we have any sway with Sakuna and her choices? Go purchase an ad in one of Japan's leading newspapers and implore Japanese society to not cancel culture and force Sakuna's hand. Tell us how that works out for you

>>101852330 (OP)
>the doujins were based on real life events
I wonder which ones. All of them?

>>101856922
>muh strawman
I want you all gone and always have. It's impossible to have a proper society without mutual standards for men and women, which is why browns never created a society without Whites literally enslaving them into one.

>>101857118
>It's impossible to have a proper society without mutual standards for men and women,
That's the opposite though.
For thousands of years, women have been inferior to men. Only recently has that changed, and men are about to start a genocide over it.

>>101856790
Tourists who don't know her need to go back.

>>101857118
>>101857159
Oh boy do I love talking about Virtual Youtubers on the Virtual Youtubers board. I'm sure no one is here to covertly spread their agenda!!!
I wish we could deport YOU from our god damn BOARD but unfortunately our jannies and mods are fucking useless.
This is why the tower is still doing so well.

>>101854163
I thought this was legal in japan

>>101855146
And the left wants to ban it on the grounds that it "harms real women by perpetuating misogynistic world views and endangers real children by normalizing male sexual attraction to minors", as if either of those things would suddenly disappear if you to made it illegal to draw lines on a fucking napkin if it looks a certain way.
It's horseshoe theory at its best. Both are absurd.
The only difference is that one side is incapable of separating reality from fiction, and it's not the evangelical rightoids (outside their religion, of course), and I would argue that makes the left significantly more dangerous, as such people cannot be reasoned with.

>>101854380
women are fucking cooked dude

>>101857323
That's because you believe bait and never read past headlines

>>101857329
You have the political literacy of a highschool student from 2016. Such people cannot be reasoned with, so does that mean you're dangerous too?

>>101857285
It's not my fault it's impossible to say something as simple as 'don't fuck kids' on "your" board without being attacked by certain Pacific demographics, but sure calling them out is le bad

>>101857323
It is "legal" in the sense that the federal government has a minimum age of 14 but every region as it at 16-18.

>>101854380
>Will someone please feel sorry for the 40 years old man who is married and has a kid!
>He didn't know any better and was seduced by this evil middle schooler
You faggots cannot be for real.

>no one posted this
https://exhentai.org/g/3423899/00b98784cb/

>>101852330 (OP)
girl browsers add me up on discord, tag: aiketh_
if you're into vidya, anime, lolis, and all things artistic/creative, Whether it's Pokémon, Fate, Dragon Quest, limbus company, Danganronpa, Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy, Bravely Default, Fire Emblem,/m/ shows, Kemono, SMT, Mega Man, Sonic,3D SFM, Castlevania, Touhou, or series like monogatari, RWBY, Digimon, Disgaea, and beyond

>>101857451
You fucking retard. Your fault lies in the fact that you let /pol/fags hijack the thread by taking their bait.
>but sure calling them out is le bad
Calling them out is really going to change their mind, I'm sure. They're sick fucks not worth entertaining, yet you've done so anyway just to stroke your own ego and feel superior. Meanwhile, the quality of the board plummets, and you've given them incentive to keep posting. OUR HERO.

>>101857323
Maybe you shouldn't get legal knowledge from /here/ especially with Japanese law. Barely anyone in this website can read Japanese.

>>101857646
>there's no point calling them out but I came to the pedo drama thread anyway
Meanwhile you're wasting your breath on the same thing except that instead of "don't fuck kids" the stance you need to convince everyone of is "don't engage with the thread that you're in", what a useful thing to post

>>101857735
I'm glad my demonstration was able to help you understand.

>>101857791
Massive cope

>>101857451
>it's impossible to say something as simple as 'don't fuck kids'
Indeed, it is impossible to say this:

'Deprived of the divine will, the world is equally deprived of unity and finality. That is why it is impossible to pass judgment on the world. Any attempt to apply a standard of values to the world leads finally to a slander on life. Judgements are based on what is, with reference to what should be - the kingdom of heaven, eternal concepts, or moral imperatives. But what should be does not exist: and this world cannot be judged in the name of nothing. "The advantages of our times; nothing is true, everything is permitted"'.
- L'Homme révolté

>>101857803
You're right, there simply is no reaching you.

>>101854783
no shit, he was outed as a pedo, most normal people would cut all ties with such people

WE HIT THE BUMPLIMIT ON THIS DRAMAFAG TURNED /pol/ VS /leftypol/ THREAD! LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>101856590
>asks question
>then immediately pre-emptively strikes down any rebuttals with a "nuh uh"
Conversations are all about power. Conversations about adolescent sexuality show this to an extreme, because no one (or at least one side) really cares about logical arguments, it's just people throwing around their emotions to shut the other side down.
Not an attack against you, just a general observation.

>>101857805
Without thousands of years of legal and cultural evolution, Camus would never be in the position to write such a retarded diatribe, because he would be dead or a slave. Anarchic "thought" is myopic narcissistic garbage which feels that it arose out of nothing rather than out of being cloistered and spoiled by the systems it """"revolts"""" against

>>101857944
>it's just people throwing around their emotions
Women.

>>101857519
Put yourself into his shoes. He obviously has fantasies, has had them for many many years, and then one day the menhera cosplay e-girl of his dreams quite literally throws himself at him. In the moment he makes a mistake. He immediately regrets it and blocks her, avoids all further contact despite her going hard and trying to do anything she can to get into his pants a 2nd time.

>>101855860
Ok you convinced me anon, I hope she get a new design asap, it's still waste of time and energy but people will cry a lot because of this ''situation'', so it's better if se get a new design quickly
Sorry anons, I didn't thought too much before posting

>>101857930
>>101857735

>>101857972
Camus wasn't an anarchist, stupid foid.

>>101857519
okay but here me out...

>>101858015
>WAHH I LACK IMPULSE CONTROL
Then you should be a ward of the state

>>101858053
Women be like:
>capital punishment must be banned
>unless a man has sex with women I disapprove of

>>101858030
You just posted an anarchic diatribe, if you want it to be something else then it no longer serves your own point

>>101858053
>abortion rights are human rights!
You lack impulse control, and should be a ward of the state.

>>101857519
>40 years old man who is married and has a kid
i wonder what his wife and child think of him earning his living drawing loli porn

>>101858077
The only reason you think I'm a liberal or a woman is because I think you shouldn't fuck kids. I don't believe any of the things you think I do

>>101858053
If a fertile, healthy looking woman throws herself onto you, you fuck her. This is nature. This is how you spread genes. A man who doesn't do this just dies out.

You sound like you'd be genetic dead end in the wild, nevermind, you probably are a genetic dead end right now.

>>101858136
You literally are arguing for the hypergamy that you seethe about all day long

>>101856955
that's enough for you? lmao

14 is a high school freshman. I see no problem. Most of the girls in my class were already having sex at 13.

>>101858171
You probably got me confused with an imaginary person in your head.

>>101858094
It's called an objective observation, you stupid foid.
You can see something as true, even if you disagree with it (exempli gratia: the sky is blue, even though I hate the colour blue). But I guess you, as a woman, can't do that.

'Scheler himself emphasizes the passive aspect of resentment, and remarks on the prominent position it occupies in the psychology of women whose main pre-occupations are desire and possessions'.
- L'Homme révolté

>>101858053
If you meet a young looking girl that's totally your type and quite literally begging for your cock so hard the juices are running down her legs I want to see you try to resist.
You probably wouldn't have the sense of mind to leave it at the one meeting and immediately block her afterwards either.

>>101858191
You're right you're definitely a gigachad lmao

>>101856590
I mostly agree with you that what he did was very wrong, however I think a lot of the discussion in this thread is being prompted by the circumstances in which this took place, specifically the actions and the level of perceived victimhood of the young woman.
Specifically, her going on to korekore to announce all this as a form of revenge because Gaou refused to continue their relationship is hypocrisy at best. It's difficult to see her as a victim because she wanted the relationship to continue and when Gaou finally decided to do the right thing and call it off, she became angry and so she opportunistically used korekore to do the most damage she could do to him, not because she thought he was dangerous or because she thought he hurt her, and not even because she regretted having the relationship. She was motivated entirely by revenge over someone she wanted to be with rejecting her. That isn't the kind of victim that is being portrayed by most accounts of this story.

>>101858218
H-how the fuck did you know?

>>101858015
How morally bankrupt are you to think that ghosting a 14 years old kid after fucking her makes this situation look any better? What shithole are you from?

>>101858182
Women be like:
>b-but think of the [imaginary] power dynamics!

>>101858298
At least he wasn't a groomer?

>>101858298
Where does morality come from?

>>101858030
One day you will realise quoting Camus is kinda cringe but you shouldn't let that stop you, cringe is needed for growth. If you haven't read A Sea Close By/Summer in Algiers, you really should. They're very short works of his and personal favourites of mine. Keep studying anon, don't be like me and neglect that shit.

>>101858210
Anyone over 80 IQ has that ability because they have the ability to model future consequences in their heads. That includes you, but you choose to believe in your own infantalism because you want to use it to excuse yourself.
>>101858195
You are so incapable of being objective you don't even accept that you are speaking to a grown man because he happens to disagree with you about fucking children.

>>101858015
For someone that immediately regretted it he sure draw a lot of art about this encounter and his fantasies involving her.

>>101858298
>morality is when arbitrary reddit number
love this meme

>>101858324
He is a groomer, because this wasn't the only underage kid he was fucking either.

>>101858176
Took you a while to write such a lame response.

>>101858337
see>>101853358

>>101857519
don't worry, 20 and 30 year old women are doing it to men of all ages too

>>101858360
What is your source?

>>101858298
>What shithole are you from?

Women be like:
>everybody is equal, woman, man, white, black, we are all human!
>only subhuman thirdies have sex with girls because they are genetically inferior to White people

>>101858363
I'm not wrong, none of those grifting whores came here on their own.

>>101858365
I was being sincere

>>101858406
Literally "just trust me bro". This back and forth is fun but pointless. Then again so is this thread.

>>101858392
Korekore stream, or just look up a summary on twitter.

>>101858404
>>101858353
>>101858336
>no answer
Yeah, that explains a lot.

>>101858350
You... don't even know the definition of objective.
If you did, you would know it is literally impossible for me to objectively know you are a man (or a woman). My assuming you're a woman is merely generalisation.

>>101857585
What did Gaou mean by this:
https://e-hentai.org/s/e95fe43cea/3423899-21

>>101858438
I watched that stream, he literally did not. There was only ever talk about this one girl. When korekore asked if there were others he denied it and there's absolutely nothing implying he ever fucked anyone but that one girl and his wife.

>>101858464
Answer to what? Your moral grandstanding or your doxx request?

>>101857447
I'd be willing to listen to why you think I am wrong, but I suspect you're wholly incapable of doing so and are ironically acting like the very 16 year old you describe, predominantly because you possess the emotional maturity of one.
But go ahead and tell me why you think what I said is wrong.

>>101858350
>model future consequences in their heads.
What's the 'future consequence' of having children with a fourteen?

https://x.com/kokomi_mero
The girl this is all about btw, she's a vtuber

>>101858465
Being objective includes realizing that continuing to push "yuo an woman" for a lame gotcha on a 90+% male board when you've been corrected is against all reasonable expectation. Especially given how thin the basis of your "assumption" is.

>>101858482
Fucking hot.
Fucking based.
Lucky bastard.

>>101858485
No shit he denied, he tried to save face as hard as he could and was pretty much blaming the girl for everything, not even once he apologized either.

>>101858545
First of all, you just mentioned one, you fucking retard. Second, he's experiencing consequences for that decision right now.

>>101858591
Only women argue with emotions. That's what you're doing. It's a very safe assumption.

>>101858574
I kneel, Gaou-sensei.

>>101858601
>not even once he apologized either.
Apologised for NOT fucking her? She WANTS him to keep fucking her, that's why the problem exists.

>>101858336
The avoidance of objective hypocrisy.

>>101858601
He didn't blame the girl for anything though?
The girl herself is the one who said all this shit about being the one who approached him and so on and so forth.
All Gaou said outside of the short Q&A was that he admits to everything, really regrets it, and that he will stop being an illustrator. He at absolutely no point made any excuses for himself.

>>101858610
The basis of my argument is the health of society, I have no "emotional arguments". You are emotionally wounded, that's your problem.

>>101858608
I wasn't the person you were arguing with.

>he's experiencing consequences for that decision right now
And? Worth it. Japan doesn't care. See >>101854418

>>101858601
You didn't watch the stream nor read a summary, why are you even talking?

I'm never leaving the tower again this shit is cooked

>>101858656
see>>101858104

>>101852330 (OP)
What a retard. Gao papa did nothing wrong!! He loved Aqua so much and this is how this whore pays him back.

>>101858670
>I wasn't the person you were arguing with.
Therefore what?
>And?
>>What's the 'future consequence'

>>101858657
If anything he actively dug himself deeper by admitting that some of his ero doujinshi were based on that experience and fantasies he had about her after they fucked lmao

>>101858663
>the health of society
The health of society?
That would entail making it OKAY to do the deed with fourteens, because that would create a population increase, which creates a GDP increase.
What is the societal downside exactly?

>>101858438
>Is this the only minor you interacted with?
>No there is one more

>>101858574
>https://x.com/kokomi_mero
Would

>>101857323
That's because you believed the outcasted cringy otakus who are a minority of a minority in Japanese society and didn't actually look at the broader culture in Japan past your anime and hentais.

>>101854380
Jesus fucking Christ, how can aqua betray gao papa after this. What retard, no wonder she left holo. She cannot be trusted with important decisions.

>>101858750
BASED BASED BASED

>>101858738
> we found that complications with the highest odds among women, 11–18 years of age, compared to 25–29 year old women
Women are not physically or mentally prepared to carry or care for children that early into puberty. If you cared about fertility so much you wouldn't be trying to argue for fucking children, you'd be campaigning for deurbanization.

>>101858765
>I will force my American values upon the yellow savages! It is the white man's burden
Sasuga leftists.

Sakuna should go to prison too. Her money funded this pædophile's criminal activity.

>>101858846
That's only about giving birth.
And so what if they die? If one in three die giving birth, that's an objective good for society. You get 3+3-1 = +2 people.

>>101858846
>Women are not physically or mentally prepared
coulda stopped there

>>101858392
>>101858485
https://yutura.net/news/archives/137118
>Gaou admitted that in addition to Ms. A, he also had a relationship with a 14-15 year old girl 5-6 years ago, but explained that he had only had relationships with two minors. When Korekore reconfirmed, "Is it really just those two?", he replied, "I think so."

>>101858915
>objective reality enjoyers explaining how a negative fertility rate is good for fertility

Well, this will kill all her big profile sponsorships, for good.
Is not even about the scandal but the inability to keep her character/model stable and going.

The same reason hololive girls will never get a anime or any long term/big money stuff, can't go medium/long term project if they can cease to exist at any moment.

>>101858915
>You get 3+3-1 = +2 people.
I meant: 3+3-1= 3+2

Either way, it's a positive, not a negative.

>>101858988
see>>101859002

>>101858694
I'm not that anon. I'm not a feminist nor a leftoid.
I'm merely responding to your disingenuous inquiry that you hoped to have a religious debate over. We probably agree on many issues, however your inability to form an argument without retreating to religious doctrine hurts the ability of those who agree with your position to support their own argument in a non fantastical way. Consider my response a culling of the unintelligent chaff from my own side in order to prune and strengthen it. In this case, you are that chaff.

>>101858738
>which creates a GDP increase.
Ah yes, that's why the countries with the highest birthrates and youngest mothers have the highest GDP's and most efficient/effective economies in the world.
And also the best quality of life.

>>101859076
You think your problem was you made up equation which just shows you know nothing about fertility

>>101859084
I'm not religious.
Objectivity means beyond human interpretation.

You are the chaff.

'When man submits God to moral judgments, he kills Him in his own heart. And then what is the basis of morality? God is denied in the name of justice but can the idea of justice be understood without the idea of God? Have we not arrived at absurdity?...The better to avoid it, he pushes it to extremities: morality is the final aspect of God which must be destroyed before the period of reconstruction begins.
"We deny God, we deny the responsibility of God, it is only thus that we will deliver the world"'.
- L'Homme révolté (Camus is an atheist)

>>101858990
For real, half of a vtuber's success is the VA behind the screen; the other half is what their artist is able to come up with. Even those who have departed from Hololive by and large have gone to great lengths to keep their same artist for a 'similar yet different' design to what made them famous. For the select few who did not maintain this connection, their dwindling appeal and relative obscurity compared to their coworkers and peers is not negligible.

>>101859097
>that's why the countries with the highest birthrates and youngest mothers have the highest GDP's and most efficient/effective economies in the world.
Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution

>>101859113
>woman doesn't understand maths
lol.

>>101859204
You're a woman? Calm down, Pearl

>>101859171
You absolute retard, countries TODAY that are undergoing industrial revolution are counted as "developing" economies, because a developed economy (post-industrial) is a more desirable economic state than a developing (industrial) economy.
Do you think fucking Nigeria or India have the best economies and quality of life?

>>101859321
>because a developed economy (post-industrial) is a more desirable economic state than a developing (industrial) economy.
lol.

'Millennials, in the US, have been called the "Unluckiest Generation" as the average millennial has experienced slower economic growth and more recessions since entering the workforce than any other generation in history'.

>>101859359
You are so historically illiterate it's insane.
The US had already undergone it's industrial revolution way before millennials were even born you dipshit.
You posted a link to the fucking industrial revolution, the countries of today with the most comparable economies to that are in Africa, not the US in the fucking 1980's you neanderthal.

>>101859359
>less growth is bad
>regression is good
Do you have a single logically consistent belief?

>>101859359
Anon, are you seriously suggesting that Millennials are living worse lives now than any other generation in US history?

>>101859142
>Objectivity means beyond human interpretation.
Mathematics is about as objective as one can get and the concept of hypocrisy can be laid out in very simple logical syntax.
The "golden rule", which you are probably familiar with, would easily be one such axiomatic corollary resulting from such definitions.
The proposition that morality is uniquely inherent to religious texts, specifically abrahamic ones, is absurd, as any moral code published by any society or civilization before the introduction of those beliefs would be enough to disprove it.

>>101859428
>the industrial revolution of Europe is the Africa of today
lol.
Even medieval Europe is better than Africa today.

>>101859519
>The proposition that morality is uniquely inherent to religious texts, specifically abrahamic ones
I NEVER said that.
Nice strawman, then.

>>101859552
Firstly, there are no countries that are considered to have good economies and are also simultaneously considered to be having an industrial revolution (china is only considered "developing" because it's politically beneficial to them, they are realistically developed, they also have a terrible birth rate).

Secondly, there are NO post-industrial countries that in a worse-state than they were when they were undergoing industrial revolution (1800's London was famously one of the worst places on Earth to born, pretty much hell on Earth)
Your argument is completely incoherent and illogical, you are not a serious person with serious positions.

>>101859661
>pretty much hell on Earth
For peasants.
Fuck peasants.

>>101859701
You mean the people who had all the babies? I thought you were arguing from a position of more babies = more money.
Are you capable of maintaining a single coherent line of thought?

>>101859748
Yeah. More babies = more workers = more money for the aristocracy.

>>101859779
Right, that's why the countries of today with the richest billionaires are also the ones with the highest birth rates.
Oh wait, not even that works out, does anything you say ring true?

>>101859844
You can import babies nowadays. All developed countries do it, because a declining population is 'bad' for the economy.

>>101852330 (OP)
>her artist is a degenerate
Qrd?

>>101859888
>because a declining population is 'bad' for the economy.
Yes it is, but it's "bad" for an already good economy, because a consequences of having an effective economy is a lowering birth rate. That's why universally, across the world, every country with an extremely high birth rate is a complete and total shithole, which is why your argument of "more births=more good" is an incoherent argument that does not pan out in reality.

>>101860012
>every country with an extremely high birth rate is a complete and total shithole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

>>101854390
>>101854552
Imagine thinking a business should save a few thousand bucks rather than take the most slam dunk PR option imaginable.

>>101860012
The actual solution involves old people going into the recycling tanks but nobody's willing to admit it

>>101860012
>every country with an extremely high birth rate is a complete and total shithole
Umm, the Baby Boom?

>>101859519
>The "golden rule", which you are probably familiar with, would easily be one such axiomatic corollary resulting from such definitions.
That's a human view. Ergo, not objective (not beyond humanity).
Who says treating others good, is good? Humans. It is, therefore, subjective, not objective.

>>101860311
That but also child labour.
These peoples first argument is always female disenfranchisement/de-education, but they always forget about just killing the old people and sending the kids to the mines.
Ideally we do all 3 then the world will be a better place.

>>101860518
>stars and planets do not make collectivist decisions, therefore morality is subjective
Is this your argument?