Eng tubing is basically falling apart and it's sad how quickly it's happening

>>101881767 (OP)
indie streaming is the future old man

>>101881767 (OP)
Just two more weeks.

>>101881767 (OP)
Relax oji san. Nothing is falling apart for now.

>>101881767 (OP)
My girl has a concert tomorrow.
We're good.

>>101881767 (OP)
but en indietubing is more alive than ever

>>101881767 (OP)
Eng vtubing is fine just the corpos are struggling, idolslop and perm autism isn't that attractive for wealthy freedom loving westerners

>>101883089
But all the returning exholos love idolshit tho?

>>101881767 (OP)
>Kill the golden goose
>Starve
Shocking

>>101881767 (OP)
Just say that you’ve stopped giving a fuck about vtubing

>>101883214
this. jp corpo culture is absolute cancer. thats why en corpos are doing relatively fine.

Nijisanji EN has been dead for a long time
Idol was never anything but marketing money
Vshojo was never really a vtuber company, it's just an eceleb company

>falling apart
>the only aspect in decline are ip hoarding slave driver corpos
RUMAOOOO stop posting Yagoo

>>101883089
>Eng vtubing is fine just the corpos are struggling
>Holo's fine
>Niji sorta exist
>Vshojo still more of a coalition of induvial than a true corporation
>A bunch of smaller corpos either doing ok or disbanding
This has been status quo since like 2021

>>101885418
Eh, I'd say NijiEN went from sorta existing to being on life support, but other than that yeah

>>101884570
this. every hobby goes through periods of strife. fucking summer tourists man I swear

is this bizzaro /vt/? hololive is the only relevant thing in en vtubing

>>101881767 (OP)
Have you seen what Westerners have done to Anime and any Japanese media? Why is this surprising?

>>101885990
The ex holos are more relevant than the current ones.

>>101887166
the ex holos were 3 views before they joined hololive and are now only relevant because they were in hololive.

>>101887166
The Holo brand is bigger than any talent and that's the way it should be. When the talent get too big-headed you get shit like Dooby and Saba.

>>101881767 (OP)
Fuck the idol shit it's boring, if I wanted to go see a concert I'd just go to one in my area and get some fresh air

>>101881767 (OP)
Self-inflicted, just like EN VAs with Hoyo. Funny how it's always the ol' 'evil corpo' coping with these tourists.

>>101887210
holy fucking tourist

>>101887210
Doesn't mean they should kiss Hololive's ass in gratitude forever.

>>101888834
Glad parasocial twitchfaggots like you are out of the bubble now :)

>>101881767 (OP)
The soul of the hobby moved to indies (and I don't mean the generic whore type). Holo got complacent, safe, boring (besides a few hard workers). Only their concerts matter, the streams are mostly marketing.
NijiEN was briefly good (Lazusydia) then became a total hellhole.
Hoshikawa is spamming FGO nowadays...
I watched Holo since 2018 then moved to indies after Council.

>>101889096
They aren't in any way similar at all, you might be brain damaged. Vtuber union/strike? Didn't happen. The only thing EN vtubers have in common with the VAs is that most of them aren't working for corporations anymore, but for the VAs that means being homeless crack addicts while for the vtubers that means making more money independently

>>101881817
Fpbp. Big corpo flopped hard

>>101881767 (OP)
It will heal once holo dies and phase take its rightful place ar the top

>>101889591
I’d laugh at you but at this point with vshojo shitting itself.. (and Clio being hot as fuck) I think phase might actually have a chance

>>101889611
Vshojo splitting up doesn't really change much since it was always more like a loose group of liggers than a real corpo.

>>101889611
>might have a chance
Lmao. Talk to me when more than 5 phase girls can hit consistent 3k+ CCV.

>>101889469
which indies?

>>101885438
>I'd say NijiEN went from sorta existing to being on life support
Its so funny you idiots keep forgetting the males exist and mog Stars. Female viewers keeps buying merch and keep EN running well, even if not the most efficient.

>>101889591
>It will heal once holo dies
Keep begging Phasebeggar, maybe one day your little dream will come true lmfao.

>>101889849
It’ll be sooner than you think

>>101889963
Keep coping.

>>101881767 (OP)
>>101885605
1 point 0.7 million subs on the lolishark.
endorse by sugardaddy Assmongold.
biggest english indie vtuber since Pewdiepie.

>>101881767 (OP)
No, it's not.

>>101890010
You sound scared kek

>>101890022
No one cares the shark is in a league of her own. Other en’s bow to her and are slowly failing

>>101889373
>average viewers 398

>>101881767 (OP)
vtubing should've stayed in japan only.

>>101881767 (OP)
The implication that it ever amounted to something that could "fall apart" is hilarious.

You EOPs never had anything worth anything.

>>101881767 (OP)
>it's sad
it really isn't

We have this thread what, every two, three days?
It's literally just the bubble being well and truly popped. The holo people know where the shit they like comes from, the /pol/fags have their own corpo, and everybody else is split between small corpos trying to squeeze idol money out of a market that barely exists and indies.
This is just what saturation actually looks like. Growth is not impossible, it just means reaching people who don't know they might like this stuff now (probably) without a pandemic boom. There's more shit than ever, there's just less attention on any one facet. Find your niche and stop wishing it was 2022.

>>101893433
Holy essay

>>101893433
i get reading short sentences is hard when english isn't your first language

>>101895440
meant for
>>101893457