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>last stream 2 weeks ago
>under 450k subs

What killed Cecilia's momentum? I remember her being the most hyped Holomem.
Anonymous No.101883424 [Report] >>101885270 >>101885456 >>101890477 >>101890540 >>101892772 >>101896737 >>101897281 >>101918371
>>101883412 (OP)
Why do I even come here anymore? It's all antis and /#/ now
Anonymous No.101883447 [Report] >>101883682 >>101934057
>>101883412 (OP)
>I remember her being the most hyped Holomem.
You should get tested for alzheimer's.
Anonymous No.101883682 [Report] >>101885547
>>101883447
She *was* the most hyped at first, based on the model. Then we heard her voice...People wanted Violet Evergarden, not some random ESL eurotrash. Skippa.
Anonymous No.101883755 [Report] >>101886009 >>101911321 >>101952070
>>101883412 (OP)
>431k
That honestly fine, it's not 2020/21 anymore so subs are hard to come by for new members unless they get lucky/actively try to get new subs
Anonymous No.101883896 [Report] >>101883937
>>101883412 (OP)
How to say you are a tourist without saying you are a tourist.

>nice to meet you again cc schizo
Anonymous No.101883937 [Report]
>>101883896
Nah, this is just a regular schizo. He admitted to scrolling random threads looking for bait to make threads with >>101863010
Anonymous No.101884666 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
She just did karaoke yesterday retard
Anonymous No.101884800 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
fans don't want real talent these days. they want chuubas who appeal to the lowest common denominator, who think the way they do, who scratch that itch in their monkey brains. that's how you end up with chuubas like pippa and kirsche whose only talent is playing the algorithms by drumming up drama on the regular.
Anonymous No.101884825 [Report] >>101884963 >>101885150 >>101885201 >>101885409 >>101889890 >>101921755 >>101926279
>>101883412 (OP)
>Lesbian but not the hot kind
>ESL
>German
>Doesn't capitalize on her only talent (music)
>Hates lewd
>Not funny
>Average at games
Anonymous No.101884963 [Report]
>>101884825
>Doesn't capitalize on her only talent (brapping)
Anonymous No.101885150 [Report] >>101889658
>>101884825
All the things you listed only makes her best girl. Vtuber faggots are so annoying they seethe at the sight of a normal person, which is all she is.
Let her do her thing.
Anonymous No.101885201 [Report] >>101903704
>>101884825
never hire /wvt/ trash
Anonymous No.101885215 [Report] >>101885249
I dont want to shit on your oshi but shes just not funny and cringy. Shes german, what the fuck were they thinking? At some point you just have to stop and think about - why are we even doing this..
Anonymous No.101885249 [Report]
>>101885215
We're doing this to fuck your mom. She likes Geman men.
Anonymous No.101885270 [Report]
>>101883424
fippy bippy
Anonymous No.101885367 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
Watch streams or shut up.
She did an unarchived karaoke just yesterday and also had an off-colab on Bae's channel a couple days ago.

Generally she was/is busy with her 3D arc and the Thailand trip with Mori, Biboo and GG.
She also adressed her lack of activity and said she feels bad about it but right now she needs to use her time in JP to get things done.
Anonymous No.101885409 [Report] >>101896649 >>101899015 >>101901043 >>101921813
>>101884825
>Lesbian
doubt, is there a reason to believe that aside from memes?
>Hates lewd
unless youre a literal whore this stuff isnt meant to be part of your job anyway
>ESL/German
aside from accent maybe, this is just the same as a burger, but from a halfway decent education system and a lot more sophistication than the average angloperson because of it
>average at games
is anyone in EN even good at games? cc is probably below average though. Idk why that matters though, nobody watches a buncha anime girls play videogames casually and expects them to not suck
Anonymous No.101885456 [Report]
>>101883424
fpbp
Anonymous No.101885547 [Report] >>101887381 >>101890031 >>101890240 >>101929861 >>101940485
>>101883682
Her biggest point of hype was "EU Fauna", but then she wasn't Fauna, and we still had real Fauna. Also no music, no clippable moments, no good niche (editing something on stream isn't as interesting to viewers as karaoke or drawing, and she ended up barely playing violin), and even her model, while pretty, doesn't translate easily to art/porn because of doll elements scaring away artists. Now add no streams to that and it's like eh
Anonymous No.101885621 [Report] >>101885694 >>101917982
She is German, a strong independent woman and likes BWC. Japanese find dumb, helpless girls appealing. Cecila has non of these traits hence she lost the Asian market.
Anonymous No.101885694 [Report]
>>101885621
>asian market
She doesnt have EU market as well because her humour level is that of a brick. Fuck germans
Anonymous No.101885710 [Report] >>101897028
Seems like the usual pattern where Cover's main thing takes precedence over whatever the girls want to do and in turn knee-capping their momentum and potential. I thought they would've learned their lesson but it seems they are still trucking along.
Anonymous No.101886009 [Report] >>101903414
>>101883755
Niggy please you get handed 200-300 for free just for the brand.
Anonymous No.101886926 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
-mori
Anonymous No.101887236 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
She's my favorite EN right now. Gotta admit she can be a "grows on you" type, where you need a decent number of streams for her to click. She's building up a really dedicated fanbase, which is nice.
Anonymous No.101887381 [Report] >>101899487
>>101885547
>Her biggest point of hype was "EU Fauna"
Not a single human being outside the Indian Ocean thought she would be anything like Fauna. SEAtards see the color green and think they must be exactly the same.
Anonymous No.101887488 [Report] >>101890670
>I want to use my violin
>We'll ask for permission
2 months later :
>So what about permission ?
>We're still waiting for Mozart-Sama's answer
Anonymous No.101887901 [Report] >>101899530
I watched her intermittently until she started associating with Gigi.
Anonymous No.101888144 [Report] >>101888703 >>101890049
>>101883412 (OP)
If shitposts on /vt/ are anything to go by I'm not watching her CC's already coasting, probably the first one to leave hololive in the future. Otherwise I can't explain why she stopped doing stuff she did in the beginning like composing music streams or almost never did stuff she promised to do like violin karaokes.
Anonymous No.101888703 [Report] >>101888896
>>101888144
>if shitposts on /vt/ are anything to go by, I'm not watching her
yes that sums it up, why even post dimwit
Anonymous No.101888896 [Report]
>>101888703
Cuz I like it. I even put a warning at the start so people like you wouldn't take it seriously
Anonymous No.101889015 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
She's my favorite of Justice along with Raora (who I like mostly because I share the same nationality and live close to her), but it's true that a lot of her unique potential isn't being displayed lately, most likely due to 3D prep.
Anonymous No.101889016 [Report] >>101889103 >>101890390
>>101883412 (OP)
Hololive EN just kind of sucks ass. Starts with this, we are 4 gens in and we have zero gfe chuubas and zero chuubas who play along with lewd stuff. EN girls just view vtubing as regular streaming with an anime mask. I dont think it can recover frankly.
Anonymous No.101889103 [Report] >>101889872
>>101889016
So you just want fake hugs and kisses, that's your content? GFE is only viable to break through from total irrelevance of a nobody streamer, once you hit certain numbers it's more risk than benefits. Also Rushia.
Anonymous No.101889149 [Report] >>101890164
>>101883412 (OP)
The entirety of Justice is mid desu.
>CC barely streams and when she does it's either for collabs with GG or boring streams
>Elizabeth barely streams
>GG is mostly useful for collabs, also zoomer pandering meaning she is extremely loud and annoying
>Raora is just a yapper who doesn't say anything interesting

If this is going to be the base for EN5 I think I'm done with Hololive and I'll just follow indie tubers
Anonymous No.101889658 [Report]
>>101885150
Fuck off normalfag
Anonymous No.101889672 [Report]
le creativity
takes multiple projects on but finishes non
self sabotaging and happier with a smaller crowd "I can read chat again compared to the early months"
Anonymous No.101889812 [Report] >>101890282
She has been another set of hollow promises: no art streams, no music streams, more FOTM, no membership content (otocranks?, more like otocucks), etc etc... I watched her a lot during her first 3 ir so months but canceled my day 1 subscription only after 2 months, and by the third one or so unsuscribed completely.

I still watch her when she plays some oddities like Last Story (which it seems she's not gonna end) or Wolverine but... Yeah, a shame she has no unique qualities to offer, even things like "responsibilities" are lost in her and for sure feels like she doesn't give a shit anymore... What a shame after such a good first month.
Anonymous No.101889872 [Report]
>>101889103
St least i want some fake hugs and kisses right now we get zero gfe chuubas
Anonymous No.101889890 [Report] >>101895661
>>101884825
>hates lewd
Thats like everyone in the EN branch thoughbait
Anonymous No.101889978 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
She literally streamed yesterday and has been on other people's channels consistently the last two weeks. She literally called in from vacation to do an hour with Gigi on the charity stream for Calli.
Anonymous No.101890016 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
Pupsi stopped tooting her own horn, if you know what I mean
Anonymous No.101890031 [Report] >>101890092 >>101890098
>>101885547
No clippable moments? Her comedy duo with Gigi is the most clippable thing in holoEN right now. She's very good at improv. So you put her with Kronii or Gigi who are also good at it and it's going to be a laugh a minute stream.
Anonymous No.101890049 [Report] >>101890100
>>101888144
She did have a violin karaoke already no? It's a shame she doesn't do it some more since a big draw of her PL was how good the rigging was on her violin. She should do it more often instead of primarily relying on autofister business yuri.
Anonymous No.101890084 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
Looks like the singing and dancing lessons aren't going to well or the 3D. On contrast to Biboo last year.
Anonymous No.101890092 [Report]
>>101890031
This
>Clanker
>woah woah woah woah
Was spammed on my frontside for likea week in 20 different versions as usual the people here are full of shit.
And honestly the artificial voice chat moment afterwards was even funnier
Anonymous No.101890098 [Report]
>>101890031
Fucking lmao anon, think before making a post
Anonymous No.101890100 [Report]
>>101890049
She's done 1 (one) violin karaoke in her entire time in hololive
Anonymous No.101890164 [Report]
>>101889149
There's more balance where as Advent only had FWMO before they started pandering hard to JP.
Anonymous No.101890174 [Report] >>101892569 >>101897589
I sincerely hate all of you and hope you all die. Fuck you. If you are reading this? Fuck you. I hate you specifically. KYS. FUCK OFF.
What an absolute shithole.
Anonymous No.101890240 [Report]
>>101885547
>her model, while pretty, doesn't translate easily to art/porn because of doll elements scaring away artists.
motherfucker what? if anything the doll schtick should attract them more because it has a lot of potential ideas, yet a lot of it mostly went to CCGG yuri
these artists lack vision and the will
Anonymous No.101890282 [Report]
>>101889812
>otocranks?, more like otocucks
Oh God this, thanks for reminding me to cancel that one
Literally ONE actual video beside the intro one
What a scam
Anonymous No.101890390 [Report] >>101891007 >>101892346
>>101889016
You may not want to admit it, but Nerissa unequivocally fits both categories
Anonymous No.101890477 [Report]
>>101883424
>antis and /#/ now
You said the same thing twice
Anonymous No.101890540 [Report]
>>101883424
>now
wtf are you on about?
Anonymous No.101890623 [Report] >>101895723
>>101883412 (OP)
It's amazing that after a year she still hasn't capitalized on doing German off collabs or 1-on-1 collabs with Kiara. It be a buff to them both and the fact they haven't is kinda weird.
Anonymous No.101890670 [Report] >>101890905 >>101903847 >>101913960
>>101887488
I watch uruka for this reason like tf literally one of her major draws in her pl was the great violin playing and it's potential is barely used. Uruka is also a professional so at least I'm not completely out of music content (I watch other instrumentalists too). But like why TF hasn't holo capitalized on this massive potential..???
Anonymous No.101890905 [Report]
>>101890670
>Uruka is also a professional
Not also. Uruka is a professional, CC is not. That's probably a part of why she doesn't really want to lean into it with the now much bigger audience.
Anonymous No.101891007 [Report] >>101891125 >>101891985 >>101892160 >>101895505 >>101920008
>>101890390
Well she'd need to stream for that
Holos that don't stream are useless at the end of the day
Anonymous No.101891125 [Report] >>101891368
>>101891007
32 h/month is not that bad. You cry like she's gura
Anonymous No.101891368 [Report] >>101891490 >>101891947
>>101891125
32 hours a month is fucking hideous, the fuck are you on?
Anonymous No.101891490 [Report] >>101892701
>>101891368
Four 2h streams a week on average. That's like twice of Cover's requirement, the fuck are you on?
Anonymous No.101891714 [Report] >>101892617 >>101892681 >>101921853 >>101957114
Because that's what she is at the end of day. A lazy grifter, a pretentious friend, she's here to gather enough fame and money so she can come back to those liggers. All of her supposed friendships in Hololive are essentially business driven, solely for her merch sales and numbers. Also she is boring, uninteresting, resorts to "HATE HATE HATE HATE" gimmick, her voice sucks, even the "creativida" shit that makes those otomos jerk themselves into thinking that she is the top vtuber fucking sucks. Oh and did I mention lazy?
Well chase the bag Cecilia, no one is blaming you for that, you have an entire army of dicksuckers ready to hail you up anyway. I hope you get enough money in your next year so you can fuck off and I don't have to see you in Hololive ever again, but even right now, you're irrelevant. End of story.
Anonymous No.101891947 [Report] >>101891985
>>101891368
its literally the same as Bae and Irys. And I don't see anyone crying anout them being dead.
The only bad thing I can see in that list is that Gigi and Raora both have 100h more.
Anonymous No.101891985 [Report] >>101892528
>>101891947
>its literally the same as Bae and Irys
No it's fucking not >>101891007
Anonymous No.101892160 [Report] >>101900516
>>101891007
>biboo No-diffing the entire branch
Anonymous No.101892346 [Report] >>101892448
>>101890390
Has Nerissa ever done a lewd stream? Anons gfe is not the chuuba gets cutesy for 5 minutes, its like an an form of keyfabe at least. Its constant. Also she is not lewd to JP, freaking Haachama of all people started doing joi shit in the middle of her asmr, when has any EN chuuba done anything like that.
Anonymous No.101892448 [Report]
>>101892346
He's talking about GFE, not HPE (Hiring a Prostitute Experience)
Anonymous No.101892528 [Report] >>101892588 >>101892628
>>101891985
Yes it fucking is.
What part of that table do you have problems with?
Anonymous No.101892569 [Report]
>>101890174
Same, I hate this place
Anonymous No.101892588 [Report]
>>101892528
He's talking about Nerissa, not CC
Anonymous No.101892617 [Report] >>101892698 >>101892721
>>101891714
This. Worst hire ever next to gigi. Complete leech side characters. They are basically holostars.
Anonymous No.101892628 [Report] >>101892701
>>101892528
Learn the fucking math
>Bae - 300,2 hours
That's 50 hours per month
>IRyS - 295 hours
That's around 49 hours per month
>Nerissa - 190,9 hours
That's 30 hours per month
Anonymous No.101892681 [Report] >>101892806
>>101891714
Sorry you didn't get into hololive, but it's probably because you're a massive bitch and that comes across
Anonymous No.101892698 [Report]
>>101892617
Sana is the worst hire and it's not even close
Anonymous No.101892701 [Report]
>>101892628
32 hours per month is not that bad >>101891490,
stfu
Anonymous No.101892721 [Report]
>>101892617
Lol I know you're trying with a shit bait to deflect but on the other hand I think they should really. They are pretty much in line with each other.
Anonymous No.101892772 [Report]
>>101883424
Muscle memory is a bitch. You can never truly leave this place.
Anonymous No.101892806 [Report]
>>101892681
No need to deflect otomo, you should go back to yout split to continue arguing about how she is "corrupted". Most of what I said really were just me taking from your own split lmao.
Anonymous No.101892824 [Report] >>101895838 >>101896504
>>101883412 (OP)
Whom do people even watch in Hololive these days? There are only Biboo and CCGG left it feels like.
Anonymous No.101895505 [Report] >>101900460
>>101891007
Those graphs aren't fun anymore after Gura, Mumei and Ame graduated
You would see 80 hours streamed in the entire fucking year lmao
Anonymous No.101895661 [Report] >>101897259
>>101889890
my oshi posts lewds on her PL account thougever
Anonymous No.101895723 [Report] >>101895892
>>101890623
>Kiara
>buff
Where did you crawl in from?
Anonymous No.101895838 [Report]
>>101892824
>Whom do people even watch in Hololive these days?
I watch CCGG, IRyS, and a bit of Fuwamoco. I like when they do split streams so I can watch Fuwawa. From JP, Okayu, Matsuri, and Lamy.
Anonymous No.101895892 [Report] >>101896258 >>101896417
>>101895723
German collabs would absolutely be buff, you monkeybrained number retard
Anonymous No.101896258 [Report]
>>101895892
It's nice that you believe that.
Anonymous No.101896417 [Report] >>101896767 >>101897417
>>101895892
The less CC interacts with Kiara the better que collab next week when immercontrary sees this
Anonymous No.101896474 [Report] >>101902749
The biggest issue with CC is her sense of humor, she's always laughing at her own jokes but they aren't funny
Anonymous No.101896504 [Report]
>>101892824
I think at this point Holodrones have given up on actually liking any particular Hololive talent and just watch for the brand
Anonymous No.101896649 [Report] >>101921773
>>101885409
Ina's pretty good at games.
Anonymous No.101896737 [Report] >>101897442
>>101883424
Anonymous No.101896767 [Report]
>>101896417
>The less CC interacts with Kiara the better
What, afraid of her being mogged?
Anonymous No.101897028 [Report]
>>101885710
This
Anonymous No.101897259 [Report] >>101904221
>>101895661
From Holo EN? Literally none of them do that
Anonymous No.101897281 [Report]
>>101883424
fpbp
Anonymous No.101897417 [Report]
>>101896417
Plot twist, she's the one spamming these threads
Anonymous No.101897442 [Report]
>>101896737
Buy an ad
Anonymous No.101897589 [Report]
>>101890174
Calm down CC
Anonymous No.101898032 [Report] >>101913989
She's busy hanging out with her indie best friend Nina Saotome. She's going to make sure gets into Hololive so she can collab with her, on stream and irl.
She's sick and tired of Gigi and can't wait to stop hanging out with her. Nina Saotome is guaranteed to get into hololive once she's finished with her Japanese training arc.
Anonymous No.101899015 [Report]
>>101885409
>ESL/German
her accent/voice is also hot af, very important
>is anyone in EN even good at games?
forget EN. half of GAMERS gen aren't very good at most games. hell, AZKi took a record (among holomem) THIRTY HOURS to complete The Game of Sisyphus, and that suffering was some of her most memorable and viral endurance streaming
Anonymous No.101899487 [Report]
>>101887381
i still see her often compared to Fauna, often by yuros even, but as a day 1 otomo idfgi. they're both green and talk a lot i guess ("professional yappers amirite"). but a lot of holomem talk a lot, that's part of their appeal
Anonymous No.101899530 [Report]
>>101887901
so for less than a week?
Anonymous No.101900460 [Report]
>>101895505
No, that only applied to Gura. Even at Mumei and Ame's lowest points they still easily managed more than 200 hours and that was with them on their way out.
Anonymous No.101900516 [Report]
>>101892160
Saba to Koseki :
Anonymous No.101901043 [Report]
>>101885409
>Germany
>Halfway decent education system
Ah yes, being forcefed propaganda about the six gorillion hoax for the twelfth semester in a row, how very sophisticated and haute couture
Anonymous No.101902749 [Report]
>>101896474
I think they're funny in a lame sense.
I'm not slapping my knee and howling while rubbing my belly, but I do think they're funny.
Anonymous No.101903414 [Report] >>101906261
>>101886009
>please you get handed 200-300 for free just for the brand.
Nigga this has not been true since 2021
Post-2022 Holo actually have to grind for their subs nowadays cuz they don't spawn in with a quarter million subs, and don't get a free influx of 10k subs a day anymore
Anonymous No.101903536 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
she’s great when collabing with other holomems but recently she’s been overfixated on gigi and it’s not funny anymore. Also she treats vtubing as job, it’s not enough for entertainment industry, but I still like her rare peak streams like with bae or with mumei and gigi.
Anonymous No.101903704 [Report]
>>101885201
It's been so many years, they couldn't have known
Anonymous No.101903847 [Report]
>>101890670
true story anon, discovered Uruka’s violin karaoke streams month ago and was shocked how great she is and sad that CC dropped music
Anonymous No.101904221 [Report] >>101910928
>>101897259
Raora literally drew porn
Anonymous No.101904658 [Report] >>101904988
shell probably be the first to leave justice desu
Anonymous No.101904988 [Report]
>>101904658
As she should. Ligs are begging to get her back to become their play toy but they'll just move on to new shiny things once they find out she is irrelevant af
Anonymous No.101906261 [Report]
>>101903414
>Post-2022 Holo actually have to grind for their subs nowadays
Anonymous No.101910928 [Report]
>>101904221
She kind of did now too
Anonymous No.101911236 [Report] >>101929772
>>101883412 (OP)
She feel a bit... akward to watch. The way she talk is like "let get it over with and move to the next"
Anonymous No.101911250 [Report]
I am seeing the rise of GGem stock
Anonymous No.101911321 [Report] >>101913898 >>101947207
>>101883755
>sub are hard
Wrong. Fish get 1 mil in less than a week. Back then she needed a month. The en market don't get stagnated, CGDCT still a popular concept, they lack talents that can attract viewer.
Anonymous No.101913898 [Report] >>101914018 >>101914135 >>101954223
>>101911321
>chumkeks still compare redebuts to new chuubas
Fish LOST 3 mil in less than 2 month
Anonymous No.101913960 [Report] >>101918227
>>101890670
>casually admitting to being a cuck
Anonymous No.101913989 [Report] >>101915263 >>101920538
>>101898032
>She's sick and tired of Gigi and can't wait to stop hanging out with her
God, if only.
Anonymous No.101914018 [Report]
>>101913898
I didn't realize realize so many people clicked the unsubscribe button
Anonymous No.101914135 [Report] >>101918270
>>101913898
>Still going with this cope angle
Livestream your suicide when she beats Salome's record even WITH your goalpost-shifted handicap?
Anonymous No.101915263 [Report] >>101922605
>>101913989
Yes I agree, I hope Cecilia stops being a leech to Gigi. I hope she graduates next year so she can fuck off back to Nina and I don't have to hear about her being a god vtuber ever again. Good fucking riddance lol
Anonymous No.101917982 [Report] >>101942039
>>101885621
>Assuming eubros watch her
Kek
Anonymous No.101918227 [Report] >>101922605
>>101913960
I'm here for the music. Wtf does this even mean lmao
Anonymous No.101918270 [Report] >>101919810
>>101914135
>chumkeks still compare redebuts to new chuubas
Your problem is not Salome, Cookie had 17M subs 1 day after vtuber debut. Have to beat that, since you're a retard and only look at numbers without any context.
Anonymous No.101918371 [Report]
>>101883424
Have faith in EN5

>>101883412 (OP)
I blame her last collab with Gura. Hopefully the Babydoll with Biboo will rub off on her more
Anonymous No.101919810 [Report] >>101920561 >>101920880
>>101918270
>non-chuuba account turned chuuba
vs
>new, actual chuuba account
I realize you're not a native English speaker and are also completely retarded to boot, so let me make this simple for you:
Strawgrasping to shift goalposts isn't "context". The context... is that Saba is on a totally new account. Saying she "lost 3 million subs" puts you roughly 4 million subs off of objective reality, and would also require negative subs to be a thing.
If you deny this fact by breaking out the predictable "it was over a month, we measure from account creation not debut date!" fanfiction cope, you lose even harder because now I can use your own words against you and force you to admit that it's a bullshit comparison specifically BECAUSE of the CONTEXT that the account was created over a month prior to debut. Unlike Salome's account, whose debut took less than a WEEK afterwards, artificially spreading Saba's pre-debut subs over a much longer period of time by comparison.
Now that I've pointed this out, I'm sure you'll pivot to pretending that context doesn't matter anymore because the rules you pulled out of your ass said so. Conveniently ignoring, of course, that they DON'T say so and never have - this feat has ALWAYS measured since debut and NEVER arbitrarily discounted pre-debut subs, because banking pre-debut subs isn't unfair, because that's much an indicator of their size and draw as a vtuber as anything else. Unlike funneling over non-vtuber fans on a repurposed account, which Cookie actually did and Saba... didn't.
Baselessly crying foul and equivocations will not make you un-lose the argument. Thanks for playing.
Anonymous No.101920008 [Report] >>101920262 >>101954262
>>101891007
IRyS used to be a streaming monster, what happened?
Anonymous No.101920073 [Report]
Boyfriend
Anonymous No.101920262 [Report]
>>101920008
Never since i tried to follow her was she a streaming monster. She can do long streams but she is never consistent. Throat problems and whatever or just MIA cripple her streaming hours.
Anonymous No.101920538 [Report]
>>101913989
You must be that otomocunt who had a meltdown in your split and got banned. How ya doing, cunt?
Anonymous No.101920561 [Report] >>101920605
>>101919810
>pathetic cope and goal-post moving
cry more
Anonymous No.101920605 [Report] >>101920978
>>101920561
>n-n-no u
That's all you can say because you know I'm right, despite putting on a show of petulant denial
Anonymous No.101920880 [Report] >>101920962
>>101919810
Nta but holy kek, anon. I think you've missed the point of baiting holofags completely. You are supposed to make them seethe, not the other way around.
Anonymous No.101920901 [Report] >>101923671 >>101923807
>strong CCV
>strong merch sales
>other members love her
>idol skills increasing (singing has gotten vastly better)
>extremely strong member count thanks to plops
It's pretty much only her sub count that sucks. She's doing great on everything else.
The stream amount is just JP arc hitting her harder than some of the others. Not everyone can handle the full workload, and for all we know she took on more projects than the others.
Anonymous No.101920962 [Report]
>>101920880
idk anon this whole thread seems to be full to bursting with holoseethe
Anonymous No.101920978 [Report] >>101921025
>>101920605
You wrote a wall of text arguing against some shit in your head that I've never said. Reality is simple - funneling old subs can't be compared to new debuts and you are a retard.
Anonymous No.101921025 [Report]
>>101920978
Which is exactly why Saba's subs count and Cookie's don't.
You may now resume deflecting and shitting yourself.
Anonymous No.101921033 [Report] >>101921232
Jesus christ this place is still schizo central. Just fucking off yourselves cunts.
Anonymous No.101921232 [Report]
>>101921033
Ladies first
Anonymous No.101921755 [Report]
>>101884825
She makes sex jokes all the fucking time wdym
Anonymous No.101921763 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
Unironically because of the timezone
Anonymous No.101921773 [Report]
>>101896649
Pfffffft
Anonymous No.101921813 [Report]
>>101885409
>cc is probably below average though.
She's definitely above average. I mean she beat Sekiro while barely using tools and no skills. She's doing great in Elden Ring despite running around with under 20 VIT. She also refuses to summon or get help.
She just suffers from other issues while playing, like having 0 sense of direction or not reading the mechanics closely enough.
Anonymous No.101921853 [Report]
>>101891714
Holy fucking truth nuke.
Anonymous No.101921962 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
She's just an angry woman.
Anonymous No.101922079 [Report] >>101922412 >>101928172 >>101936772
gg ruined cc she should have just stayed in v4mirai and be gay there
her making only gay jokes isnt even the worst part its all this fucking unfunny brainrot shit
Anonymous No.101922412 [Report] >>101928172
>>101922079
What exactly do you consider brainrot?
Because if you compare GG and Biboo to CC, then CC is in a whole other booth.
Anonymous No.101922605 [Report] >>101923829 >>101934076
>>101915263
>>101918227
Gigi is a fucking nijisister. Pick a better hill to die on.
Anonymous No.101923671 [Report]
>>101920901
The cope is strong with this one
Anonymous No.101923807 [Report]
>>101920901
Holy fucking cope. What projects? Of leeching people?
>Merch strong
Compared to who? Not even the best in her own gen
>Strong CCV
Meaningful really, gets absolutely crushed under overlaps, weak to mid in collabs, leeching coworkers doesn't even work.
The rest is just coping as hard as you can. I'm not gonna stop ya, drown in your own fantasy brother, you're gonna need it
Anonymous No.101923829 [Report]
>>101922605
Otomo, you know deflecting from your failure of an oshi doesn't help her right?
Anonymous No.101926279 [Report]
>>101884825
but she is funny, often enough. (and that's noteworthy, for an EN member.)

and the lesbianism makes her less likely to take part in cringe yuribait.
Anonymous No.101927613 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
Hololive killed CC's momenum
Anonymous No.101927736 [Report] >>101928172
I followed her and hit the bell, but for the past couple months forgot she existed. She ought to stream, and even then depending on your yuropoor audience can only make you so successful.
Anonymous No.101928172 [Report] >>101928428
>>101927736
Her streaming output has been halved for the past 4 months. Starting around the same time she begun mentioning shorts. Also the time frame of visiting Japan, which then potentially connects to >>101922079 & >>101922412
I'm seeing a correlation here.
Anonymous No.101928428 [Report]
>>101928172
Timestamp faggot
Anonymous No.101929772 [Report] >>101931011 >>101954414
>>101911236
This combined with her dozens of empty promises and abandoned projects made me ditch her completely. It's a shame schizos going ham on her has destroyed any meaningful discussion about her.
Anonymous No.101929861 [Report]
>>101885547
>no clippable moments
>He already forgot the BRAP
Anonymous No.101931011 [Report]
>>101929772
>It's a shame schizos going ham on her has destroyed any meaningful discussion about her.
Doesn't that just mean she brought it onto herself?
Anonymous No.101931101 [Report] >>101931171 >>101931268 >>101931535 >>101948360 >>101949311
Cecilia will be busy next week hanging out with her indie best friend Nina Saotome, who is a somewhat popular indie that's in Japan for the next 6 months to learn Japanese (ensuring she will get into hololive).

Ceci is going to make sure gets Nina into Hololive so she can collab with her, on stream and irl.She's sick and tired of Gigi and can't wait to stop hanging out with her.

Nina Saotome is guaranteed to get into hololive once she's finished with her Japanese training arc.
Anonymous No.101931171 [Report]
>>101931101
Another one joins GG's harem, nice
Anonymous No.101931202 [Report] >>101931250
>>101883412 (OP)
Were the red highlight boxes really necessary?
Anonymous No.101931250 [Report]
>>101931202
Did you see it?
Anonymous No.101931268 [Report] >>101932425
>>101931101
more reasons to isolate GG, the better
Anonymous No.101931535 [Report] >>101931628 >>101931660
>>101931101
Sorry pal, CC will not touch Nina with a ten foot pole even if they live next door.
Anonymous No.101931544 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
Really organic thread
Anonymous No.101931628 [Report]
>>101931535
Sure buddy. Ceci can't wait for her old flame to be in the same company so they can offcollab every week together. CCGG will be dead in six months.
Anonymous No.101931660 [Report] >>101931721
>>101931535
Anonymous No.101931721 [Report] >>101943408
>>101931660
Huh, I don't see CC anywhere under the replies. Weird.
Anonymous No.101932425 [Report] >>101932607
>>101931268
I hate that loud-mouth, obnoxious pig. She should take the hint that no one wants to collab with her anymore because of her obvious behavior.
Anonymous No.101932607 [Report]
>>101932425
The really funny thing about GG to me is how she definitely proved that hololive has the exact same kind of fanbase as nijisanji. The one that eats up her brand of shit meme humor.
Anonymous No.101934057 [Report] >>101942297
>>101883447
Yeah I don't really get it, people hyped the fuck out of Elizabeth, not Cecilia.
Elizabeth had her entire career secured with just that model and voice alone and then chose to go nightmare difficulty by fangirling around Holostars.
Anonymous No.101934076 [Report]
>>101922605
Kys phasetroon
Anonymous No.101936772 [Report] >>101936873
>>101922079
GG ruins EN in general
Anonymous No.101936873 [Report] >>101937313
>>101936772
I'm going to send her screenshots on Twitter of our sentiments from this thread. Hopefully she gets a fucking clue and quits Holo, or at least fucks off and never joins collabs again. Look out for my post on Twitter and like it, so that it hits her feed.
Anonymous No.101937313 [Report] >>101946724
>>101936873
>Bro thinks the opinion of this thread matters
Kekarooooooo
Anonymous No.101938791 [Report] >>101941826
>>101883412 (OP)
I rather like Cecilia's humor.
Anonymous No.101940485 [Report]
>>101885547
Talent for singing or drawing isn't nearly as important as being able to yap and improvise for a streamer. There is a reason why a lot more people tune it to watch CC or Gigi rather than their singing and drawing genmates.
Anonymous No.101941826 [Report]
>>101938791
>german humor
I don't believe you
Anonymous No.101942039 [Report] >>101942603
>>101917982
Why would I watch her instead of a German vtuber streaming in German?
Anonymous No.101942297 [Report] >>101943406
>>101934057
ERB was forgotten immediately after saying "I want to collab with everyone" and having a homostar image in her debut. Gigi was ruled out as a Dokibird knock-off, so people started praising Cecilia as "the new la creatividad" and "a thinking man's choice". To be fair, her debut was very strong
Anonymous No.101942603 [Report]
>>101942039
name one
Anonymous No.101943406 [Report]
>>101942297
ERB would be completely forgotten by everyone if it wasn't for her forcing her ship with Nerissa. She does absolutely jack shit when compared to anyone in the branch, it's embarrassing.
Anonymous No.101943408 [Report] >>101943459
>>101931721
See
Anonymous No.101943459 [Report] >>101943869
>>101943408
Wrong tweet, buddy
Anonymous No.101943869 [Report] >>101947251 >>101947838
>>101943459
Gigi didn't tweet congratulate her, and she overlapped her stream. They hate each other. Cece probably got a new apartment away from Gigi recently.
Anonymous No.101946724 [Report] >>101950213
>>101937313
The opinions can really hurt and they're all /here/ to read them
Anonymous No.101947207 [Report]
>>101911321
Saba had 4M subs beforehand, retard
Anonymous No.101947231 [Report]
>/#/ is bad
>please don't numberfag vtubers I like
>Vtuber I don't like though? LET'S GOOOOOOOO
>/#/ is bad btw
This fucking board, kek
Anonymous No.101947251 [Report] >>101947300
>>101943869
>overlapped
>member stream
Anonymous No.101947300 [Report] >>101947838
>>101947251
What about tweeting congratulations? Why didn't Ceci, when forgetting how to set the premiere and raid to her new cover, ask Gigi, who is supposedly right next door? She could've texted each other really quick on discord or phone, but she didn't. They had a falling out.
Anonymous No.101947838 [Report]
>>101943869
>>101947300
they still live near eachother according to her appearing in this unarchived
https://youtu.be/aIQzsclRVys
and going to bed soon after
https://x.com/gigimurin/status/1940077075190501604
not to mention that they both went on a vacation with each other + mori & biboo. This angle isn't going to work
Anonymous No.101948360 [Report] >>101948501 >>101950333 >>101951913
>>101931101
There's a reason Cover chose Ceci over Nina in the first place. Nina has significant talents, better than Ceci in fact, but red flags abound, the biggest of which is probably Nina's very "special" relationship with her top donor, which undoubtedly stuck out to Cover's scouts. If they've passed up Nina thus far, I doubt they let her in at this point.
Anonymous No.101948501 [Report] >>101948637
>>101948360
You think she didn't pass the "vibe check"?
Anonymous No.101948637 [Report]
>>101948501
Pretty much
Anonymous No.101949311 [Report] >>101949356
>>101931101
>Ceci is going to make sure gets Nina into Hololive so she can collab with her, on stream and irl.She's sick and tired of Gigi and can't wait to stop hanging out with her.

Why doesn’t she ever collab with her literal cultural neighbor Kiara..?
Anonymous No.101949356 [Report]
>>101949311
Because Kiara is insufferable
Anonymous No.101950213 [Report]
>>101946724
Not the opinion of an anonymous loser like you
Anonymous No.101950333 [Report] >>101951484 >>101951485 >>101961321
>>101948360
I doubt their scouts look into shit like that. They're Japanese. How could they understand the streamers relationship with their own audience?
Anonymous No.101951484 [Report]
>>101950333
You think they interviewed HoloEN talents in Japanese?
That's what the EN staffs are for
Anonymous No.101951485 [Report] >>101961321
>>101950333
Bro is implying that a girl that makes money is a red flag for a business lmao
Anonymous No.101951913 [Report] >>101959385
>>101948360
>If they've passed up Nina thus far, I doubt they let her in at this point.
Just bear in mind that some Holos said their first application was rejected, but Cover gave them pointers and they reapplied again later and got it.
Anonymous No.101952070 [Report] >>101952163
>>101883755
Meanwhile Saba's Subs go Brrrrrrr...
Anonymous No.101952163 [Report] >>101952349
>>101952070
>chumkeks still compare redebuts to new chuubas
Anonymous No.101952349 [Report] >>101952500
>>101952163
Neither are new chuubas, CC streamed before on a different account.
Anonymous No.101952500 [Report] >>101952534 >>101952619
>>101952349
And she no has more subs than her PL, while Saba has less
Anonymous No.101952534 [Report]
>>101952500
*now
Anonymous No.101952619 [Report]
>>101952500
>less
*fewer
Anonymous No.101953492 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
she's kind of a bully and she's a strict angry woman.
Anonymous No.101954223 [Report] >>101954501
>>101913898
Yeah, holo debut never count as redebut, lets pretend her previous life never exist
Anonymous No.101954262 [Report]
>>101920008
Bae bullied her
Anonymous No.101954414 [Report]
>>101929772
She still has potential, because her voice is good. Gotta learn more
Anonymous No.101954478 [Report]
I just noticed that each time I rant about CC not streaming she delivers awesome content. Previously it was her coffee collab with Bae and this time, anniversary stream. What if she’s here?
Anonymous No.101954501 [Report] >>101956926 >>101957923
>>101954223
No need to pretend, that's not an argument in your favor. If you really want to compare- CC gained subs compared to her previous life. Fish lost 3 mil.
Anonymous No.101956443 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
>What killed Cecilia's momentum?
Justice being a flop wave
Anonymous No.101956855 [Report]
still better than Nerissa kek
Anonymous No.101956926 [Report] >>101957181
>>101954501
Lost to whom? Where do they go?
Anonymous No.101956953 [Report]
She's really quite unremarkable
Anonymous No.101957114 [Report]
>>101891714
which Holos do you like?
Anonymous No.101957181 [Report]
>>101956926
To other chuubas that actually stream, to cocomelon and mrbeast, to going outside, who cares? She had them to show to sponsors, newfags, etc. and now she doesn't
Anonymous No.101957923 [Report]
>>101954501
anon doesn't understand how the internet work...
Anonymous No.101958757 [Report]
>>101883412 (OP)
>most hyped
Anonymous No.101959385 [Report]
>>101951913
It's good to let all fail the first run, if they don't reapply they didn't care enough.
Anonymous No.101959538 [Report] >>101959570 >>101959647
>>101883412 (OP)
I thought this bitch was doing well, considering the amount of clips that keep showing up for me.
Anonymous No.101959570 [Report] >>101960186
>>101959538
She is, faggots wouldn't be seething here otherwise
Anonymous No.101959647 [Report] >>101960186
>>101959538
She is, it's just envious sisters seething
Anonymous No.101960186 [Report]
>>101959570
>>101959647
They should kiss I believe
Anonymous No.101961321 [Report] >>101961772
>>101950333
I guarantee they thoroughly look at every applicant's social media presence, discord server etc.

>>101951485
Rushia was a top earner and they didn't hesitate to give her the boot when they realized she was doing morally dubious shit. They don't want the type of girl that will DM oilers.
Anonymous No.101961635 [Report]
Instead of looking at the raw number on the screen, it's more important to look at where the audience is coming from.
If she has a low number, but the number is all EU, that's good. Because that's helping the company break into a new market, rather than just harvesting the old market over and over.

Lower numbers might indicate a lack of appeal to Japan and SEA, but why should every single vtuber have the same appeal? If she's European she's probably going to appeal more to Europeans. Which means she might have lower numbers, and yet be indispensable, since she's cracking into a new market and bringing new people to the table.
Anonymous No.101961772 [Report] >>101961920
>>101961321
Then how did FWMC get in? Willingness to move to japan/knowing japanese trumps everything?
Anonymous No.101961920 [Report]
>>101961772
I don't get the comparison. Are you saying FWMC DMed oilers in their PL?