>NuChloe debut: 145k
>NuChloe latest stream: 2K
>Still losing viewers month over month
What went wrong? Where did all the indie avengers fans go? Will this be the fate of NuAchan?

>>101948110 (OP)
She's just not that entertaining. It's literally that simple.

>>101948110 (OP)
Griiiiiiiiiim
Saba next please. I can’t wait for these traitor whores to fail. At least Not Chloe wasn’t full on retard and she left the door open to come back to yagoo with a naked dogeza.

>>101948110 (OP)
Isn't that a member stream?

>>101948415
The difference is that Saba is actually entertaining and a talented singer. Her major debuff is her lack of motivation to actually do anything.

>>101948110 (OP)
Most of her former fans were into her for the coomerbait content far more than her singing capabilities. That's literally the reason she's struggling now.

>>101948563
I enjoyed Chloe far more than Gura

>>101948110 (OP)
Japanese don't watch indies other than Shigure Ui.

>>101948110 (OP)
>"she's not doing debut numbers with every streeeeeam!!! >.<"
retard

>>101948415
>traitor
>For quiting a job
My guess is that you have never worked, uh?

>>101948110 (OP)
Her model is not sex anymore

>>101948110 (OP)
Hololive is just that addicting, simple as. This happens to all members given long enough time. Without the Holo magic behind them, suddenly the fans lost interest
+ Kson was the talk of the town when she redebuted, but she fell off hard since
+ We ain't gonna talk about Mikeneko
+ Sakuna was the same as kson, but later she lost half of the original fanbase, and now she is dealing with her problematic artist that she poached from holo
+ Shion and Mumei are MIA for the time-being
+ Ruka, Dooby and Nimi also had initial fame but then dwindled down and on the declining track. Some of their fans even chose to draw their Holo persona instead
+ Saba and Rei just debuted so I can't analyze it yet but I will give them 6 months to 1 year at most

This isn't even a Holo-cope, it is factual and it always goes like this. None of the ex-Holos grow beyond their Holo prime and the act of trying to be better than their Holo-self is almost impossible. Unlike Niji where livers can become their better-self (and it is especially true in NijiEN), Holo is and will always be their peak. Hololive did not dominate the CCV field for nothing

>>101949588
What about Rica?

jannies could fix this board overnight if they forcibly quarantined numberfags to their general but alas

>>101949588
Nimi has the same viewers as she did in Holo, not sure what the fuck are you talking about.
Dooby pretty much the same, but she clearly has other stuff going on, probably working for actual tv shows and the like, and so shs doesn't stream as much as shd used to.

>>101948110 (OP)
>EOP
>numberfag
>faggot
So this is what America's independence is for huh

>>101949949
nope, just this pagpag grubber

>>101949943
Nimi is losing to Kiara.
Nimi and Dooby couldn't sell out their concert.

>>101949588
>Ruka, Dooby
an excellent illustration of how corporate loyalty may spell the end of your career
>Sakuna
she is doing fine for an indie
>Nimi
she is outperforming her holo self
>Saba
she is and will be unmatched in the EN scene

>>101950024
>Those thumbnails
Numberkek and being a disingenuous retard how unexpected

>>101950024
Now post the numbers from her last elden ring stream

when are you killing yourself, windy?

>>101950094
>>101950120
Nimi concert: 1.6k not sold out
Hololive night happening at the same time: 56k sold out
What happened nimibros?

>>101949230
Chiroru, but not from vtuber audiences

>>101948110 (OP)
Her actual latest stream.
She's also been making ~$30k a month in superchats so far

>>101948110 (OP)
It's you people who built and destroy both Hololive and the talents who left that agency. Simple as that!

>>101950305
HololiveEN concert: 12k still reselling on trooncords

>>101948550
This, but who cares kek. EOPs gonna EOP

I watched her just a couple of hours ago and she had more than 10k

i thought 2k-3k views on regular was amazing for a streamer to pull?
Is it only >le bad because she's a former Holo?

>>101948564
it's gonna be a hard pill to swallow for her lmao

>>101950305
You are actually retarded.

>>101953155
Is that seriously the cope you're going for?
What's next once the concert happens? Paid actors?

>>101950063
Least retarded post on this board.
>Dooby
What's killing her career is that she doesn't stream. Same as before
>Ruka
She was never that entertaining, she survived because of her connections with the other girls and her singing voice, the singing is less important for an indie.
>Sakuna
Correct
>Nimi
No idea if this is actually true.
>Saba
She is really pushing the pedo angle now, this could easily break her neck at any time.

>>101948110 (OP)
>members only
lmao retard, it only means she's swimming in money

>>101950305
There are 15 girls in EN, so you could say each one really only sold 3.7k tickets.

>>101948110 (OP)
Japs are the biggest corpo cucks in the world

>>101953661
Using that logic Nimi sold less than 400

>>101953661
This retard is talking about Dodgers shit, not AFO. 90% of those 56k don't give a fuck about Holo.

>>101953690
Fuck off.

>>101948550
yeah. she accidentally made it public at the start, then moved it to members only when she realized after a couple minutes in
>>101948110 (OP)
>>101951289

>>101953661
It's worse AFO is actually only 12k seats, so the girls only sold 800 tickets each.

>>101953494
Where is the cope? The tickets are still resold on discords, that's a fact. On ticketmaster too.
And both concerts will happen, what's your point here?

>>101953843
So about the same as nimi&doob really, considering they are with 2 literal whos

>>101948110 (OP)
That's a membership stream you dumb fucking numbersnigger

Looks like Zeta

>>101948563
except she's already dropping fast, she keep loosing around 5-10k live viewers every stream she does. debut was 200k dropped to 150k didnt pay attention to the stream after that 3rd stream started at 60k dropped to 50k, and the last stream which was actually a game went from 50k to under 40k

>>101954003 (me)
this also isn't counting like from one stream to the next, the drops are happening while she is actively live not between being live

>>101953940
You think there's a chance that Zeta graduates?

>>101953843
And those aren't even 12k unique seats. It's 2x6k and many people are buying both days. These comparisons are basically pointless, just shit-flinging trannies on both sides.

>>101953843
>>101953867
>>101953909
>>101954059
>If I cope really hard Nimi outsold AFO and Hololive night

>>101948415
corpo drone seethe fills me with life energy lmaoooo

>>101954003
That is all completely normal though. Tons of people come into a debut stream to see how the new model looks and leave when they have seen it which happened after a few minutes. That the following streams get less viewers is also natural and that a stream of a 3 year old game does not get as many viewers as well. You need some serious /#/ education.

>>101954192
>If I cry hard enough, reality will go away
nope, ywnbaw

>>101954317
yes but its not exactly normal to be consistently while live bleeding those viewers

>>101954589
that is/was normal until the bot army attacked

>>101954050
When her parents agree to sell her to me, yes.

>>101954636
yes because every single stream that doesn't immediately start at its peak and slowly drop viewers is botted now