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Anonymous No.101955394 >>101955438 >>101956582 >>101956621 >>101956671 >>101956964 >>101957909 >>101959074 >>101960364 >>101960761 >>101961225 >>101961306 >>101961319 >>101961553 >>101963978 >>101966135 >>101966141 >>101966393 >>101970917 >>101971416 >>101971440 >>101971770 >>101971903 >>101972986 >>101974327 >>101974801 >>101979548 >>101982529 >>101986716
What went so wrong?
>Demon of "sound"
>No karaoke
>No original songs
>No gaming streams
>Only reactslop and repetitive zatsu
Anonymous No.101955438 >>101956544 >>101961319 >>101974801
>>101955394 (OP)
Hololive just kills talents.
Same for Cecilia. She's a master of rigging, can play the violin and can make interactive streams as shown by her LoZ and Super Mario gameplay streams, but she rarely gets to do that.
Anonymous No.101956544
>>101955438
i hope she grinds holo for two years and then fucks off again and goes back to being indie
Anonymous No.101956575
I hope she graduates and becomes a 2 view avenger
Anonymous No.101956582 >>101968838
>>101955394 (OP)
>Demon of "sound"
>No gaming streams
Is there a conflict here?
Anonymous No.101956621
>>101955394 (OP)
mugbang vtuber
Anonymous No.101956639
she should give her channel to her brother
Anonymous No.101956671 >>101961227 >>101962849
>>101955394 (OP)
Not even Kiara thinks of her as a singer anymore, she wasn't invited to her 3D despite Nerissa being in Japan since FES
Anonymous No.101956728
What's with the obvious samefagging going on in this thread? What's being deflected this time?
Anonymous No.101956767
What went wrong is a fanbase that blindly supports everything she does and shuts down any criticism(not talking about the 10 people in /ope/ that think they represent the jailbirds)
Anonymous No.101956964 >>101956986
>>101955394 (OP)
>No original songs
wtf are you even doing here, tranny op
Anonymous No.101956986 >>101957523
>>101956964
when was her last original song?
Anonymous No.101957523 >>101957626 >>101958129
>>101956986
exactly 1 year ago, she has done nothing but shitty karaoke-lite covers for the past year despite streaming the least out of everyone in EN
Anonymous No.101957626
>>101957523
4 months*
You forgot the boneless is better rap
Anonymous No.101957754 >>101957874
she's STILL in japan? it's been months
who or what is holding her hostage?
Anonymous No.101957874
>>101957754
She's going out with her "friends" everyday in Japan and coming back home late at night
Anonymous No.101957909 >>101958017
>>101955394 (OP)
Demon of sound because the voice is annoying to listen to?
Anonymous No.101958017
>>101957909
No that's ERB
Anonymous No.101958129 >>101958973
>>101957523
What's a karaoke-lite cover and how is it different from normal covers?
Anonymous No.101958973 >>101959132
>>101958129
No MV, disktroid, and not even on her videos tab
Anonymous No.101959074 >>101971521
>>101955394 (OP)
Her first karaoke was an absolute disaster and it completely fucked her brain up about doing them. She's like a giant baby who breaks down if anything goes wrong, which is why her channel is now just low effort zatsus and collabs.
Anonymous No.101959132
>>101958973
I assume the no MV thing is part of the permissions for western songs, maybe? Because she had one the moment she decided to cover another japanese song.
Anonymous No.101960364 >>101962501
>>101955394 (OP)
She gets by just with shipping content on twitter, so she doesn't have to do anything else.
Anonymous No.101960761
>>101955394 (OP)
Anon, they literally broke her horn so she wouldn't sing the world to death
Anonymous No.101961225
>>101955394 (OP)
>>No original songs
Anonymous No.101961227
>>101956671
I don't believe you, anti.
Anonymous No.101961306 >>101961547
>>101955394 (OP)
she is actually the demon of metal rods that go in your pee pee hole
so get ready for that
Anonymous No.101961319
>>101955438
>>101955394 (OP)
all Hololive wants them to do is grind streams for their first 3-4 months then fuck off to Japan and do nothing else but shill ads for some reason
Anonymous No.101961350
Even her cover of Aishite aishite is soulless, you're supposed to break your voice while singing this song, not sing it like it's a song for a festival or something
Anonymous No.101961497
Doesn't Nerissa hate streamimg games?
Anonymous No.101961547
>>101961306
I remember when she first debuted people here were discussing using #DemonOfSounding for her porn art tag.
Anonymous No.101961553
>>101955394 (OP)
She got popular enough that the twitch whores started paying attention to her and giving her "tips". Little does Nerissa know that they're actively trying to kill her career because every single Twitch slut is a fucking snake.
Anonymous No.101962501
>>101960364
Ironically what's killing her career rn
Anonymous No.101962849
>>101956671
Wawa based as always
Anonymous No.101962923 >>101963340
She unironically just doesn't like video games, with very few exceptions. You can pick up on that immediately if you watch almost any of her gaming streams and don't have autism
Anonymous No.101963340 >>101963451
>>101962923
She also doesn't like singing live, ASMR or drawing. Meaning she doesn't offer literally anything worthwhile to her viewers and why her limited merch failed to sell out, an unprecedented catastrophe for an EN.
Anonymous No.101963451 >>101963627 >>101968456
>>101963340
Well, she can always focus on idol activities if she at least likes that. She wouldn't be the first member of hololive, or even in her own gen, to quietly ditch streaming in favor of idol activities. FUWAMOCO have done the same. This shit happens in hololive, it's nothing new or even unusual at this point.
Anonymous No.101963627 >>101963709 >>101963966
>>101963451
She'll do neither because she's inherently lazy, plus
>FUWAMOCO have done the same
Straight up lies. Nerissa has had more zero streams weeks than Fuwamoco have ever cancelled streams for even less idol activities
Anonymous No.101963709
>>101963627
Are you sure? NTA but FUWAMOCO have cancelled a fair amount of streams, that would be a LOT of no streams weeks.
Anonymous No.101963966
>>101963627
only because of their stupid 30min news show that nobody needs
Anonymous No.101963978 >>101975064
>>101955394 (OP)
I blame faggots (including some of her own fans) for killing her confidence in singing karaoke early on.
The fact that she once sperged out over a rather neutral YT comment (which was actually defending her IIRC, but even if it wasn’t it was rather neutral nonetheless) showed how insecure she felt
Anonymous No.101964346 >>101966185 >>101969076
Her last karaoke stream was a meme one for Valentine's and she didn't bother doing one to save her failing merch. My money is on her graduating by the end of the year
Anonymous No.101966100
y
Anonymous No.101966135
>>101955394 (OP)
Not even thumbnails the true is Nerissa is lazy
Anonymous No.101966141
>>101955394 (OP)
graduate already lazy bitch
Anonymous No.101966185
>>101964346
>graduating by the end of the year
that'll be something, but she has enough of a dedicated following to be successful if she does leave.
Anonymous No.101966393
>>101955394 (OP)
What the fuck is she significant for anyway? Reply baiting on twitter?
Anonymous No.101968456
>>101963451
>FUWAMOCO
They streamed way more compared to Nerissa. Nerissa is dead last in the company.
Anonymous No.101968838 >>101976283
>>101956582
No karaokes and origsongs, only shitty covers that no one needs, everything is great!
Anonymous No.101969076
>>101964346
>My money is on her graduating by the end of the year
No, she will last until the end of her contract and then graduate in her third year.
Anonymous No.101970917 >>101980293
>>101955394 (OP)
I used to watch Nerissa a lot, but she really started to get annoying starting around the Japan arc last year, when she just full on whiny white girl mode all the time. Rissa likes being in Hololive, don't get me wrong, but I do think as time has gone on, she doesn't like everything that has come with being in Hololive. Her a(nd ERB) are probably the two EN members that could thrive a lot more if they formally just stopped regularly streaming and focused on music. I think that would help with some of her issues, but not all of them.
Anonymous No.101971416
>>101955394 (OP)
read the lore retard she doesnt sing because it would drive you crazy
Anonymous No.101971440
>>101955394 (OP)
>What went so wrong?
You making this thread
Anonymous No.101971521
>>101959074
Worked for Mumei's first year, which she rode into the cycle of a week of streams then fucking off for the month for the rest of her career.
Anonymous No.101971559 >>101971664 >>101971702
None of you actually enjoy or watch vtubers and just make these threads cause you want someone to shit on
Anonymous No.101971664
>>101971559
It's funny to read this while watching streams.
Anonymous No.101971702 >>101971880
>>101971559
you shouldn’t be on 4chan if you can’t handle shitposting
Anonymous No.101971770
>>101955394 (OP)
Americans being Americans
Anonymous No.101971880
>>101971702
I know what you are
Anonymous No.101971903
>>101955394 (OP)
Nerissa is made to be a side bitch that you occasionally watch when no one else is on
she never puts any effort into streaming and offers nothing but a pleasant voice and attention on twitter, if you care about that
Anonymous No.101972786 >>101973004
She’s always complaining, every stream turns into a cycle of ranting, self-loathing, or moping about superficial things. I don’t watch VTubers to be dragged into someone’s bad mood every time. Instead of uplifting or entertaining, it just becomes emotionally draining. I’m not looking for forced positivity, but when the default mood is always negative, self-deprecating, and low-energy, it stops being fun. At some point, it feels less like content and more like sitting through someone’s therapy session. And that’s not what I tune in for
Anonymous No.101972986 >>101973065
>>101955394 (OP)
in her own words, she became a side character to ERB, which is pretty fucking grim on every metric
Anonymous No.101973004
>>101972786
woah getting Aia flashbacks
Anonymous No.101973065
>>101972986
>side character to an episodic character
Anonymous No.101974327 >>101974448
>>101955394 (OP)
>What went so wrong?
Ok, lets dissect this
>>No karaoke
She's unfortunately one of those autist who forgot that karaoke streams are just supposed to be a silly thing you do for fun, rather than an actual display of your singing skill, so she never does them because she's a perfectionist over everything sounding "good"
>>No original songs
They're really heard to make unless you're either a writer yourself (like Mori) or willing to shell out the money to pay someone else to write a song for you (like Kiara)
However, she has a fuck-ton of covers and full-gen songs with Advents, so her not having a lot of original is forgivable
>>No gaming streams
She's ABSOLOUTLY awful at video games, like she genuinely might be worse than debut-era Mio. She got filtered by FF7 remake on EASY mode
The only games she seems be good at are low-maintenance farming sims, like Runescape or Stardew Valley
>>Only reactslop and repetitive zatsu
As previously mentioned she's not really gamer (outside of Advent collabs), and she only really seems to be willing to do karaoke with her sisters, so her actually ability to make content is just really limited
That being said, her actual fans seem to really enjoy her zatsu content, so idk why we as outsiders should be mad
Anonymous No.101974448 >>101974651
>>101974327
Unfortunately her actual fans seem to not enjoy her content anymore, as evident by her limited merch (2k sets) not selling out even with her confirming there will be no anniversary merch. This is unprecedent when it comes to HoloEN as it means she doesn't have at least 2k core fans anymore
Anonymous No.101974651 >>101974925 >>101975881
>>101974448
>, as evident by her limited merch (2k sets) not selling out even with her confirming there will be no anniversary merch. This is unprecedent when it comes to HoloEN as it means she doesn't have at least 2k core fans anymore
Anon I can't not imagine a MORE retarded metric to try gauge a vtuber's popularity to than merch sales, ESPECIALLY in era where shipping from Japan to America has been giga-fucked by tariffs
Anonymous No.101974801
>>101955394 (OP)
>>101955438
Japanese corporate perms autism.
Anonymous No.101974925 >>101975429
>>101974651
All the merch that came before and after her sold out completely in less than 10 minutes, hers failed to sell in a full month despite tariffs being cut drastically. There's zero excuse for her massive failure
Anonymous No.101975064
>>101963978
And now Bloodraven and the shipfags that came with it are going to finish the job.
Anonymous No.101975429 >>101975881
>>101974925
Again, using merch sales as a metric is extremely retarded because you're ignoring dozens of factors at play like..
>Price
>What the actual merch itself
>The quality of the merch
>Shipping cost
..And boiling it down to "no sell, fans no like you" which is frankly idiotic to say about a vtuber who averages like a 7k CCV and gains about 10k subs a month
(You're also ignoring she's sold out her merch quickly before in the past because you have an agenda to push lol)
Anonymous No.101975538 >>101976005
the copebirds finally decided to show up
Anonymous No.101975881
>>101975429
>>101974651
it's true that merch sales is not an ideal metric
but if we look at her viewership that has also dropped across the board, she has less viewers than shiori and her songs are all flopping
Anonymous No.101976005 >>101976230
>>101975538
Decided to hide out in your seethe thread cause you got btfo'd everywhere else?
Anonymous No.101976230
>>101976005
??? are you ok?
Anonymous No.101976283
>>101968838
her covers are good desu
Anonymous No.101976393
the only complain I have is her twitter autism
Anonymous No.101979548 >>101980049
>>101955394 (OP)
you you are what went wrong
Anonymous No.101980049
>>101979548
ok Rissa, shut up and watch Kiara, watch and learn
Anonymous No.101980293
>>101970917
>Her a(nd ERB) are probably the two EN members that could thrive a lot more if they formally just stopped regularly streaming and focused on music.
Fucking KEK, you sure are ignorant about how oversaturated the music business is, even the vtuber market is more profitable for newcomers.
Anonymous No.101982529 >>101983224
>>101955394 (OP)
Really feels like Nerissa has been phoning it in for a while now considering how low effort she's been getting. She used to post schedules all the time but then stopped for 2 months, April and May, and then only just started doing them again and now she stopped once again. She used to make thumbnails for every stream but now relies on preselected thumbnails from YouTube because she's becoming lazy. She's also been doing a lot of low effort chatting/eating streams. She hasn't done a solo gaming stream since last month and has only played a game in collabs. Her music is also flopping now too, the thing she wanted to focus on most. Doesn't take a genius to see that Nerissa is losing passion and maybe losing passion being in Hololive. Everyone here thought Shiori would have a high chance of being the first graduation of Advent, but it's looking like it might end up being Nerissa with how things have been going the past 3 months. At least Shiori still puts in effort for her members and Novelknights with videos every month and also interacts with them and has fun with them tool. Also it doesn't help that she has shown clear favoritism towards a certain group of Jailbirds, the Twitter lesbians, and that definitely rubs her other fans the wrong way because nobody likes favoritism. She's slowly losing fans that way and you can see that with how she struggled to sell her limited merch while Shiori's sold out, even though hers had huge tariffs on them while Nerissa's had less tariffs. The early warning signs are there for Nerissa and I don't think it's gonna improve any time soon
Anonymous No.101983224
>>101982529
while it's true that she's phoning in very creatively bankrupt I highly doubt she's graduating any time soon.
Nerissa likes the other holo girls too much. She also knows she's incapable of making content for herself and would fade to irrelevancy very fast
Anonymous No.101986716
>>101955394 (OP)
I can only speak for myself, but she built that image of very unhinged vtuber that does sexy innuendos, then in fact she acts like an absolute normie.
As the OP mentioned, she was presented as this beastly singer, yet she barely sings.
Long story short, she set up a lot of expectations and didn't deliver on them, honestly.
I still don't fully understand what identity she's supposed to have.
A lot of holomems struggle to find their identity and quirks when they first start, but then slowly solidify their own character.
She seems, in comparison, still very undeveloped. Like if she lacked a precise identity. Her most peculiar things so far seem to be she's a fan of Kiara and she has a family. That's a bit underwhelming.
She lacks in personality. Not as a person, I mean as a character.