>indies thriving, achieving dreams, singing and dancing on stage together
>fanbases intermingling, some even for the first time, having fun with each other
>corpos like holo doing pretty well too.
Unity is coming. For once I can say I like this timeline.

Hololive is crashing and burning after the dodgers fiasco.

people like 102023414 are why we can't have nice things

>>102023366 (OP)
I wanna kiss Doki's stupid fuckin long-ass neck.

INDIES LOVE

>>102023366 (OP)
Go fuck yourself.

>>102023414
Dodger fiasco? It was chill wdym

Is it fair to call them indies tho ? If Beyoncé were to abandon her record label ties and upload her songs to YouTube, I highly doubt people would call her an indie singer.

>>102023414
How is that NBA shit going for you nijinigger?
>>102026119
Literally only the EX-Holo are thriving, they are because they were Hololive
Won't stop liggers from using them for their shitposting but it must fucking sting to see that the most notorous indies are this sucessful because of Hololive kek

>>102024721
more

>>102026119
I think so. The main difference between independent and under a company is reach and resources. You can't rely on them to advertise for you, which can make it difficult to grow further.
When they leave and become indie, they take a portion of their audience with them, but then it's up to the streamer to prove to the audience that they're still worth watching without that financial or communal backing.

>>102023414
Its alright phase you wont have any more boyfriend terrorism fiasco.

>>102025895
>>102023414 sister is worried holo will make niji obsolete

>>102026224

>>102025895
They lost the game and the post game ceremony was the cringiest shit on Earth.

>>102026387

>>102026209
Camilla is doing pretty good, along with the girl named after car.

Does vedal a neru count? They are doing great

>>102025345
Nijiseethe

>>102026387
You hate fun and happiness

>>102023366 (OP)
Future corpos like Holo will be used as testing ground around 2~3 years for networking and experience, and those that want to leave will graduate and be an Indie. The corps will keep the character IP for their benefit, while the chuubas can get more freedom if they want.

The key factor is whether we like the character managed by the corps or the chuuba themselves. As we know Fauna and Nimi isn't really the same...

>>102023366 (OP)
I like your positivity, there were all kinds of good streams this weekend.

>>102026209
>Sloppy Sisters group song
>Virtual Vacation throwing eyes onto Ashton and Hyuni
>Fantastic Reality blowing up a ton of indies and v4mirai girls
evenn goddamn Doki learned to sing and dance. So proud of her.
She's even got an original song now!
https://files.catbox.moe/w3lnzh.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/b6bv65.mp4

>>102023366 (OP)
I honestly fucking hate people like you.
Fuck you and fuck Dokibird, that LOUD=FUNNY bullshit is trash and it's why Saba will literally never acknowledge her or any of her dipshit friends

>>102026964
Hoo that's awkward.
Both Dooby and Nimi are her friends though. They're even having a collab this week all together with Mint.

>>102023366 (OP)
You will never be hololive

>>102026964
There’s no need for tribalfaggotry anymore, retard-kun, they've all left their respective corpos

>>102027094
I'd hope not. She's not Hololive. She's Dokibird, her own brand of sunshine and a beloved brat.

>>102026596
>Fauna and Nimi isn't really the same
She's literally the same person.

>>102026964
Saba will collab with them. Sorry to tell you this but saba wants people to collab with, and outside of nimi and dooby, they are the safest option

>>102023366 (OP)
>>holo doing pretty well too
yeah... about that...

>>102026297
>You can't rely on them to advertise for you, which can make it difficult to grow further.
that doesn't apply to internet "celebs".

>>102027615
It applies even harder to them anon. The instant they stop going full steam they start bleeding viewers. Corpos keep them in a constant public eye regardless of their own streaming status or abilities.

>>102026596
>Fauna and Nimi isn't really the same...
Yeah, Nimi has bigger boobs, it's awesome.

>>102023366 (OP)
I love when people are kind and positive on here :333 yipeee

>>102026209
liggers are utter hypocrites. they won't admit Cookie is the queen of vtubing just because she doesn't stream

>>102023366 (OP)
Doki, plz go back.

>>102028922
She COULD
or she could keep using a model that actually fits her

>>102023366 (OP)
Dooby & Nimi show the superiority of yuri. Bfs are getting dropped in mass.

>>102031108
does he know?

>>102031124
Saba will get her turn? You don't need to tell me.

>>102024721
less

>>102026429
The Phase noombers you don't see are the ones living in your head rentfree.

>>102031145
There's plenty of sloppy sisters to go around. Don't worry.

>>102031185
uh oh phasecuck melty

I need to update it, but general idea still applies.

>>102023366 (OP)
people who have to say 'I'm happy' aren't actually. It's just a matter of time til some minor thing sets this stupid cunt off and she ropes again. Hopefully successfully this time

>indie
>look inside
>ex corpo
lmao

>>102033467
Excuse me, again?

>>102033609
you dont know about all her previous 'attempts' and endless yabs? I guess ignorance is bliss, just watch her if you enjoy her. Do some reps if you dont, you'll get a nice laugh out of it.

dokibird sounds obese irl
larping as a white girl with blonde hair is very cringe btw. she will never be white.

>>102023366 (OP)
based unity chad
409378489903480945 dead catalog niggas

>>102025895
literally everything in their mind is a fiasco
>>102025345
genuine nijiseethe. i had no idea shared joy was the quickest way to make you faggots mald, but i could have guessed.

>>102026596
>As we know Fauna and Nimi isn't really the same
they are more alike than any other holo/exholo imo

>>102026964
this will not hold up lmfao

>>102027639
well, this seems to only be partially true. If you look at any of Mori‘s recent ramblings, there’s something wrong with how YouTube is propagating her content even though she streams a lot and she puta out a wide variety of content. and it’s just not reaching people also it’s not even reaching her subscriber base. a lot of people have noticed that they just don’t know about stuff unless literally checking her page manually instead of getting notifications/alerts.

>>102023366 (OP)
I don't follow indies but good for them, competition is always good and I hope the vtubing scene keeps getting bigger

>>102026964
Doki isn't even loud=funny. She is funny and happens to be loud. Gigi failed to make this distinction when trying to copy her shtick.

>>102033877
Youtube notif issues hit everyone equally

>>102033585
Didn't know Ashton, Hyuni, Laimu and Snuffy are ex-corpo

>>102033467
It's like saying "I'm fine" when asked how you are doing but way more deep cutting and aggressive.

>>102033681
Inshallah.

>>102027986
Cookie's kind of on an island by herself. Not really interacting with other parts of the vtuber industry, while also being mostly ignored by them as well. Perhaps she could try reaching out to Dooby like she tried with Watson, and actually get a Roblox collab this time around.

>>102033635
You're full of shit

>>102035970
she was reached out to by multiple leeches ironmouse and filian to name two, it comes down to Cookie not willing to appear live and the leeches not willing to do pre-recorded collabs.

>>102037606
>and the leeches not willing to do pre-recorded collabs
Filian shows up all the time in pre-recorded stuff on other channels?

>>102033676
And you won't either

>>102036703
He's not quite full of it, but is trying to frame Shachi visiting her while she was hospitalized for a suicide attempt in the face of being told by her company she is worthless as a "yab". The endless "yabs" he refers to are being a sweaty gamer and having a shitty home life. Nothingburgers really for someone of her notoriety.

>>102038601
The rest are nothingburgers indeed, but
>Shachi visiting her while she was hospitalized
Was that ever confirmed?

>>102026651
>dance
Bruh that's obviously not a human dancing

>>102039173
It wasn't that iirc. At some point after the attempt she went over to Shachi's place to recover for a while. Shachi made her watch Twilight. They talked about it on twitter.

>>102039292
Surprisingly, it is! She even showed outtakes and a previous easier choreo she had. In both of them you can see her slightly out of sync sometimes or make tiny mistakes, too
She worked really, really hard for this concert