Thread 102029200

What's the secret behind her success?

>>102029200 (OP)
child model

>>102029211
She's not the first loli vtuber in the industry, if that was so simple nearly all of them would be mad popular, but that's not always the case

>Can sing
>isn't obnoxious and is loli
>chill presence, despite the inner struggle
>old soul

>>102029200 (OP)
Somehow manages to be sexy while using a child model

>>102029200 (OP)
charisma

Putting luck, time, and place aside...

She avoids the loud = funny trap. Her voice is strangely unique and fun to listen to, especially when she's in a good mood and she uses lots of different affects. She's never mean to her fans. Despite her previous reputation as a shitposter she never leaned into zoomer brain rot that much. She's good at killing off a joke once she feels its run its course and become unfunny.

Plays in to the cunny trope, but is meek enough to not make it overbearing, which also gives her a proportionate emphasis when she does take the stage.

>>102029200 (OP)
Pedophiles who cant spend their money on dating and having their own children

>>102029200 (OP)
Her voice is uniquely cute, that's it. Probably the cutest English voice I've heard, plus she can sing very well.

>>102030070
>She avoids the loud = funny trap
Being loud is literally how she became popular as senzawa. Her content were deep fried asmr or being a loud drunkard.

>>102029200 (OP)
Hololive

>>102029200 (OP)
has a smooth buttery voice that doesn't sound like she's yelling on default mode and it's not grating. i nearly can't listen to most other vtubers, especially loli ones because they sound like nails on a chalkboard so i find it a miracle that saba's voice is cute and chill. i know it's probably just autism or personal preferences but if a vtuber's voice isn't pleasant to listen to, i'm not going to stick around for longer than a few seconds. also cunny model & good at singing and not really hard to get into if you're new to her.

>>102029200 (OP)
incredibly talented + abnormally high luck

>>102029786
yeah, that's pretty much it + her voice makes me extremely hard.

Being soulless and vapid I guess

>>102029200 (OP)
3rd world actual monkeys with no morality or culture screaming "OOK OOK LITTLE GIRL SO BREEDABLE *hit subscribe button*"

>>102029200 (OP)
>captivated everyone with her singing (ride on time, flying to the moon, etc.)
>loli
>didn't collab with guys or shitty outsiders
>kinda funny

forgot to mention how she avoids making drama or upsetting her fans

>>102029200 (OP)
Easy. She's nice to men.

>>102029200 (OP)
Could literally write a book about how shes so good at what she does + her charm points.

>>102029200 (OP)
Talent.

>>102029326
Gura, much like shion before her, perfectly blends the two traits of "carried by child model" and "doesnt stream enough to make people realize that [the vtuber] is not the same as [the personification of the loli model]"

>>102029200 (OP)
child model, channer humor

>>102029200 (OP)
Pandering to MAPs

>>102029200 (OP)
Being in the right place at the right moment + Being gifted a gigabuff model (Saba might be a downgrade but it's still reminiscent enough of her PL) + Absence of real competition when she debuted.

>>102033018
it's funny because her model used to be seen as a debuff due to how bad the rigging is

>>102032958
why do tourists expect people to know their tumblrspeak

>>102029200 (OP)
Being extraordinarily cute and entertaining

>>102033018
>Saba might be a downgrade
Gura model is fucking SHIT in every single way compared to Saba. Stop your delusion!

>>102029200 (OP)
Enough dead air to pad out 20 minutes of content to an hour

>>102029200 (OP)
Appeals to millennials and mature people like myself, but can still attract zoomers and light fans with music and skits.

>>102033141
just say that you never watched a single stream of hers instead of posting delusional cope like this

>>102033032
>>102033065
Nobody cares about the rigging when it comes to merchandising and other stuff like that. It's all about the design and the gimmick, and Gura's did a lot of heavy lifting for her success.

>>102029200 (OP)
Pandering to pedophiles.

>>102029200 (OP)
had blue dorito

>>102029200 (OP)
have the heavenly voice of a siren.
it's really THAT simple.

>>102033141
>>102033163
>Click through a stream VOD, watch 5 minutes at a time because the debut stream was unbearable to watch and I'm not doing that again
>A massive amount of either nothing or noncommittal noises when alone on stream
>Bland as fuck commentary on RE4, her only gaming stream so far, when she does actually speak
Yeah, I see why she tends to not stream. Sorry you watch this for "entertainment", Gura Defense Force anon. If you've got a clip of her being funny or entertaining, feel free to share it.

>>102029200 (OP)
be funny. be witty. be cute. its not that hard, anon. She's entertaining, moreso than almost any other chuuba. It's just that simple. She'd be just as popular with a hag model, the loli shit is irrelevant. Actually, she'd probably be even more popular.

>>102033504
I love her so much

>>102033366
Lots of vtubers do that and not all of them succeed.

>>102033493
>She'd be just as popular with a hag model, the loli shit is irrelevant.
yeah, I was just thinking, you can give Senzawa any abhorrent model in the industry and I'd still watch her/listen to her. Meanwhile you can give *insert commonly hated vtuber here* a loli model and I still wouldn't watch.

>>102033466
What you are describing reminds me of the spelling bee collab. It might have been the worst MC job i saw for this kind of event, and Ame wasn't any better, it just felt awkward and flat. Thankfully the guests were there to carry the show.

>>102033466
>she doesn't stream because i don't like her
unfunny troll

>>102032262
>kinda
Don't make me tap the soundpost
>>102033466
>Click through a stream VOD
>What do you mean she's playing the game and chatting, where's the uninterrupted deluge of spastic overstimulated monkey noises, my TikTok-addled zoomie brain can't handle this without my ritalin, filtered
Most believable fanfic since outfitschizo. I repeat, don't make me tap the soundpost

>>102033875
Alright, fess up - how much have you smoked

>>102032877
there's about a million vtubers that stream infrequently and have child models

>>102033965
Doing crack is necessary to enjoy her?

>>102034102
The opposite apparently, considering you're seething too hard to parse the picrel correctly

>>102034041
so true bestie

>>102034320
>hmmm anon pointed out a fact, how can I cope... I know I'll break out the tumblr sass, that'll save me face
Go back

>>102032796
So do it, elaborate, chumcuck

>>102034270
Why would i be seething at you? You're free to take whatever drug you want, i'm not your dad.

>>102029200 (OP)
Word of mouth and people wanting to be in with the cool kids

>>102029200 (OP)
There can only be one

>>102034597
Bijou will never be Gura

>>102034850
She could if she hit her head and fell into a long term coma. But knowing her, even in that state she would still find a way to stream.

>>102029200 (OP)

- delightful voice
- loli
- joining Hololive during COVID
- chill streams without going to extremes

In fact, I think 80% of her appeal is her voice. If she sounded like Shiori, it's unlikely she'd have any success, as a streamer she's somewhere between mid and bad.

>>102033904
>Anon demonstrates he's unable to read
Hard to believe someone's this retarded. 0/10 bait, you can do better.
>>102033922
>Uninterrupted deluge of spastic overstimulated tiktok monkey noises apparently equals anything that's not constant dead air, the most lukewarm whats-happening-on-screen commentary (when it actually happens) and verbal stalling
If a stream isn't interesting because of the streamer, that's your shit taste. You're allowed to have your shit taste. Hell, if you like the sound of her voice or something, that's great too. Material-wise, Senz/Gura/Saba are not interesting people to listen to outside of karaoke. 3/10 bait though. You could definitely do better, but you seem to put at least some effort in. Constructive criticism though: You rely too much on hyperbole, and you come across more as a sperg than a shitposter.

>>102029200 (OP)
she's plucky and genuinely enjoys the company
>>102029211
then you go get one and prove it, dreg

>>102029200 (OP)
what success?

>>102029200 (OP)
funny

>>102030070
very subtle, bvtm

>>102035650
>it's unlikely she'd have any success
You just have to look at the top JPs to understand that a peculiar voice is by no mean a problem.
She would still have had a massive success for the simple reason that she was part of the first gen in a time of high demand and low competition. But then again, anybody would. If it wasn't her, another would have racked in the massive fanbase, the majority just needed somebody to latch on.

>>102029200 (OP)
It's the tummy and her willingness to get it out.

>>102034850
anon im sorry but they're not coming back from the tower

>>102032610
>forgot to mention how she avoids her fans
didn't need as many words

>>102033466
Completely disagree. RE4 vod was great, very little dead air and really showcased two things - that she can still be entertaining even when she sucks at a game by playing into her brattiness, and that she's really good at staying cognizant of her chat even when playing games.

I guess it's because of luck and time, mostly.
Hololive Myth was the time when Vtubers became huge, so her joining that group and having an already vocal following back as Senzawa gave her an insane boost.
As an actual streamer she's really nothing to write home about, cute voice but can't bring myself to watch one of her streams past 15 minutes. She's not a good entertainer.
Also some of the rrats I've read of her make her sound like a very careless person, especially her being a raging alcoholic.

>>102029200 (OP)
she's cute and funny

>>102036976
>As an actual streamer she's really nothing to write home about
At that time, you could only choose between five talents, so viewers were more lenient about the quality of the content.

>>102034452
>>102032877

i will oshimai Rev Says Desu and his 3D wife now.
hows it going, NTR frens!

>>102029200 (OP)
retarded fanbase

>>102029200 (OP)
industry plant x100000000000
like there is no FUCKING way people care this much for one vtuber and only this one to this degree

>>102035756
>overstimulated tiktok monkey noises a
>le everything is tock ticks.
commie app didn't even exist when Kizuna Ai made her debut. go back to west taiwan, baby.

Can really feel the seethe from incompetent 2view indie whores itt. Get colonized, you fucking whores. ExHolos are now here to show you how it's done

>>102037755
pewdiepie X Kizuna Ai obviously showed us first.

>>102030070
basically, she's perfect

>>102036464
>You just have to look at the top JPs to understand that a peculiar voice is by no mean a problem.
I was talking specifically about Gura. I believe that her success is almost entirely due to her voice. Without it, she wouldn't be hired by Hololive and wouldn't be popular even as Senzawa.

>>102030070
She screams all the time though?

>>102030583
>Her content were deep fried asmr or being a loud drunkard.
yes but people liked that at the time and she played to her crowd. However the meta has evolved since then and while many are stuck in the past... she's also stuck in the past but instead of yelling it's weird mumbling and slurring words

It's the voice. Gura is one of the few people who can talk and make it comfortable to listen even if you don't care about the dumb shit coming out of her mouth.

>>102039929
I like listening to her babble and imagining her as my daughter wife

>>102029786
>isn't obnoxious
someone's ban baiting

>>102029200 (OP)
paedophiles

Was lucky enough to be the most autistic in HoloEN. shes incredibly mid, boring and lazy. IDK how you retards watch her... oh right, you are pedophiles.

She pretty down to earth, being an introvert she doesn't get herself in other people's business, thus other people's drama or talks about other people.
She kind of seems like one of the boys doesn't talk about girly stuff, tomboyish in that sense.
Music taste of a boomer and can sing them, she can yap, when she is doesn't sound like a bitch when she is annoyed at someone or while playing a game.
Loli model but doesn't push it, she just enjoys it if you know what I mean?

For a girl she is built different

>>102034850
>Bijou
And thank god for that, I prefer Biboo the way she is

>>102029200 (OP)
Can sing.
Humorous.
Aggressively cute.
Strong Daughter aura.
Perfect level of woman retardation.

>>102029200 (OP)
Saba filtering tourists on debut is why we love her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0attQ5dy_g
She loves her fans and despises virtual signalling.

>>102029200 (OP)
Optimistic answer is she has a good ability to tap into meme humor without it feeling like she's being a try hard. That and she has a cute voice.

Realistic answer is luck.

>>102029211
Out of 10!

>>102029200 (OP)
Once in a generation meme magic personality. Everyone who tries to deny this always gives away that they don't watch her.

More specifically, she has near-perfect balance in everything she does, which is the key to mastery and success in ALL fields and disciplines. She's cute without trying to be, but she can also be serious. She's good at hornybaiting without being tasteless and whorish about it. She's funny and cultured but doesn't try too hard at it and doesn't run her jokes into the ground. She's got a beautiful singing voice but she doesn't just spam karaoke every single week. She's self-aware almost to a fault which is particularly rare for women. She can be playful and bratty and bully chat but is never really mean-spirited about it. There are just so many ways in which other vtubers go too far in one direction or the other and Saba maneuvers right through the middle of the extremes every time effortlessly.

>>102042699
In other words, she is great at being average.

>>102043090
And average is great to the 9-5er who just wants to sit back and relax to feesh yap about dumb stuff. Never being a try hard at games, doesn't get into trouble with other people. Isn't loud or hyper or gets too serious.
Overlaps with Nimi quite a bit if you think about it, never watched Ame all that much but she also has that mellow tone to her sometimes. Hope the 4 ex-holo white women all unite someday.

>>102029200 (OP)
right place, right time + loli model + cute

Holomyth was the time to make it. She'd just get lost in the noise if she was in advent for example.

>>102043090
There's a great difference between the terms "average" and "well balanced". There are so few well balanced people that it is extremely above average to be one.

>>102029200 (OP)
covid

>>102043988
She's successful, before and after covid.
People forget that she received a silver YouTube play button before she became a VTuber, when it was worth bragging about. Just to start over and "Do it again."

It should be no surprise that she was leading the pack like no other during covid.

>>102042699
>without being tasteless or whorish about it
lol, lmao even
>streams with a male
>"where are the whores?"
>"i'm here"
kek

>>102029200 (OP)
Cute, funny, and 0 drama.

>>102029211
>>102030454
>>102031942
>>102032933
>>102032958
>>102033366
>>102040925
So much retarded cope. There are literally hundreds of vtubers with loli models, and a fair portion of those even have childish matching voices the way Gura does, and yet not one of them come within a marginal fraction of her success.

This is so blatantly obvious that at least some of you I replied to (assuming it's not just one samefagging brown cunt) must be aware of this, but you lied anyway. What's it like, living with the shame of knowing you are a pathetic liar who cannot make an honest argument? Knowing people will see right through you, but you are compelled to do it anyways? I just cannot imagine living with that kind of weak character. You must be full of self hatred.

>>102030070
>Putting luck, time, and place aside...
>>102030613
>Hololive
>>102033018
>Being in the right place at the right moment
>>102033406
>had blue dorito
>>102036464
>for the simple reason that she was part of the first gen in a time of high demand and low competition
>>102036976
>I guess it's because of luck and time, mostly.
>>102042489
>Realistic answer is luck.

These answers never seem to explain how, at the time she debuted, her previous incarnation of Senzawa already had more subs than even the top JP hololive girl at the time and had already made memes that got on the national news in America, or how she was the only one of the 5 in her generation to blow up the way that she did, or how she managed to keep doing that consistently for almost 5 years even after the COVID buff had long ended and name recognition would have faded into irrelevance if she didn't keep people interested. Luck by itself doesn't do anything but give you exposure - if you don't have the talent to lock down the people that are exposed to you, they just move on to the next thing.

>>102031667
This is much more on the money.

>>102029326
Most loli vtubers are bad at conveying the impression of being a loli. Saba, despite obviously being a 30 year old millennial IRL, still gives off the impression with her mannerisms. Even her teasing comes across more as a nudge and wink that it's okay to lewd her more than it is a requirement.

The somewhat popular lolituber Shondo fails to incline as hard because she goes way hard into the GFE hole which puts off everyone else. In her rare GF-esque moments Saba comes off as a girlfriend who doesn't realize she is one. That's very much like a kid who's hanging out with her 'Kaniki' thinking it's all fun and games and all the lewdness she knows was learned instead of innate.

>>102048433
>despite obviously being a 30 year old millennial IRL
She's still got a few solid years b4 that.

>>102044821
pedophiles

>>102035049
Unfortunate

>>102034631
Yep, this anon's tweaking out of his mind. Explains a lot.

>>102035756
>dead air
>lukewarm commentary
>stalling
... and other fairy tales you can tell yourself at night.
Meanwhile, in reality, she didn't even start the game until over 20 minutes after going live because she had so much she wanted to talk about. Oops, your red herring died...
You see anon, your dopamine-downregulated zoomer cerebrum is a problem with you, not the streamer. Don't blame others for you not being able to pay attention to anything through your mental disability.
Objectively speaking, Senzawa/Gura/Saba was always interesting - unlike your bait or your impotent attempts to be witty. Go consoom more obnoxiously overedited TikToks.

>>102033965
I wouldn't mind a point rn to be honest

>>102035756
>can't appreciate interesting people because of his ADHD
>no taste, only zoom zoom skibidi rizz aura chicken jockey
I weep for humanity's future and I'm not even thirty

>>102036437
Mogging every other EN chuuba and most JPs, for one thing

pedogrifting

>>102052603
She actually does that though.
Sometimes she just shuts up and makes faces lol

>>102044514
Best poster itt

>>102052986
It's called talking like a human and not a Peewee Herman impersonator

>>102052986
>woman
>actually shuts up sometimes
ok I'm sold, she's perfect

>>102033668
Exactly. There are a million lolis out there who are 1 views, the people that say that's why she's popular are huffing massive amounts of copium. She's just pure entertainment, she's just got "it."

>>102051201
why aren't the other 98798372 loli vtubers as popular as her, then?