Thread 102062597

>Youtube has taken down a filian clipper channel with 150k without any warning
>Won't take down the shitty clippers that clickbait or false titles

Wtf is wrong with Youtube, jesus christ

>>102062597 (OP)
Based
TCD

>>102062597 (OP)
>i consent
>i consent
>i don't
kinda energy over there

>>102062613
You're a faggot, clippers help build vtubers

>>102062615
No, Filian gave him FULL permission, she talks about him on her channel for fuck sakes

>>102062597 (OP)
Ok then. Bring back the channels but make them not being able to get ads. If they are in the employment of the vtuber then the vtuber should pay them

>>102062651
I know. Youtube is the one not consenting

>>102062615
Yet filian is in the comments telling Youtube to bring back the channel

https://x.com/filianIsLost/status/1942409335998750844

>>102062653
>If they are in the employment of the vtuber then the vtuber should pay them
In Filian's case, she does.
Basically they all pool the ad revenue for clip channels at the end and she redistributes it after her cut.
If they hit certain milestones for the month, she just adds in more of her own money as a bonus.
It's a whole system

>>102062693
For what, there's no violation that was done, Youtube is such shit, man. I really liked that channel too

>>102062651
I want vtubers... dead!
https://youtu.be/I0zyTbmCozg

>>102062742
Youtube sucks, anon. Everything is automated and it's extremely easy for people to abuse the system to take down channels or steal their revenue. There's a whole ass industry over sending fake music copyrights to steal the ad revenue and then run off before youtube realizes they never actually owned the rights.

>>102062653
I discovered a lot of vtubers from clippers so I don't think that's fair to not allow them to get paid

>>102062798
At this point there needs to be some kind of revenue split or whatever for that kind of content. Like a whitelist for channels that you allow to do X or Y.
I know Doki promotes a bunch of clippers. Dunno if she pays them, but she probably does. Girl even pays her mods.

Question. Has anyone had their own clip channels get taken down? Like a clip channel someone made specifically to clip their own streams, etc. This seems like the kind of thing that'd also get hit

>>102062653
That should be between the streamer and the clipfag. Plenty of streamers allow the clippers to monetize on their own, others want a cut

>>102062597 (OP)
Youtube should prioritize on taking down the ESL SEAfag clippers with clickbait titles and cropped hentai thumbnails.

>>102062613
fpbp

>>102062876
And those are NEVER taken down though, it's crazy

>>102062696
damn, seems like she's extremely broken up about it

>>102062840
>Question. Has anyone had their own clip channels get taken down? Like a clip channel someone made specifically to clip their own streams, etc. This seems like the kind of thing that'd also get hit
pay attention to Glitch Stars, most talents have official clip channels run by the corpo and supervised by TheDuelLogs himself

>>102062748
what are you doing here then ultrafag begone

>>102062696
>updoots in twatter cost nothing

>>102062597 (OP)
Real fans of vtubers don't watch clips. And by real fans I mean the fans who pay for memberships or subs and buy merch. You know, the real fans of a vtuber.

>>102062597 (OP)
Is this just trickle down from down dramaniggers on twitch suing each other?

>>102062615
>>102062696
consent my ass. that flip didn’t even ask for permission which caused the merch drama

>>102062597 (OP)
Youtube should really add some formal way for streamers/YouTubers to approve independent clipping channels. Maybe even something as simple as a checkbox in their settings to allow clippers, or at least a way to manually add approved channel names. But considering they can't even fix YouTube stream chat's memory leak issues I don't have much hope for that.

>>102062936
Anon... Not everyone has an oshi that only streams for a few hours a couple times a week.

>>102062651
Are you familiar with the meme?

>>102062948
I think it's collateral from youtube expanding their tos to ban AI slop farms that shotgun upload dozens of videos a day.

>>102063377
>they can't even fix YouTube stream chat's memory leak issues
They could, but they don't want to. It's not a problem on their developer PC's, and they view you as subhuman if you don't have a PC at least as good... and "subhumans" should use the phone/TV app with all the spyware and unskippable ads built right in.

>>102062597 (OP)
Good it was retarded and lazy stolen content used by seafag channels a majority of the time

>>102062651
>Filian gave him FULL permission
Filian herself is a living copyright violation, she can't give FULL permissions to post clips featuring model she doesn't own

>>102063720
Brownposting about Filian's model again, which the creator allows anyone to stream with. Anyone here could buy VRChat trackers and recolor that shit and stream with it tomorrow

>>102064086
anon, she didn't even buy Rindo but pirated it...

>>102063436
I can see it from that angle but there are a lot of reuploaders that take popular Youtube videos and reuploads it in shorts format and vice versa and all these other shitty things that people do low effort to get money on the platform. Clipping is one step removed practically and you see it even outside of Vtubing where they will cut portions of an interview or podcast into snippets and I am not surprised it is being targeted. I also forsee a lot of stuff adjacent like movie/cartoon/anime uploads of specific scenes or live concert clips which will also come under scrutiny. This enforcement will change Youtube, possibly for the better. For Vtubing, it just means clippers will need to get formal permission in order to avoid the banhammer.

>>102062597 (OP)
>just take down
she's not one of the ESLs catalogshitters, right...?

>>102062597 (OP)
BASED
Burn them all.
If you want to see "hype moments" then click the vod or watch live.
>b-but my whoreshi is so boring that only 20 minutes of a 6 hour stream are notable
LOL

>>102062597 (OP)
>Community Guidelines
It wasn't taken down on Fillian behalf.
He broke some rule and got channel suspended.

>>102062597 (OP)
someone targeted that specific channel with takedowns and the bots just auto removed it. pretty easy to do apparently.

>>102064631
This. There's some fucking losers that do this shit from time to time

>>102062597 (OP)
Probably a part of their new anti spam or whatever push. People cheered because they thought it was only going to go after react content but I knew clip/sub channels were in danger.

>>102064618
This.
Bet you the creator of the clip channel has a personal account involved in some wild shit that got permabanned, and yt auto-detected the clip channel as being owned by the same person and deleted it too.

>>102064631
Unfathomably based. That whore filian is a disgrace, the vtubing space would be much better without her.

>>102064650
you're the only loser here clipper scum

Based! Death to all clip channels. We don’t need clip fags in this hobby.

I'm pretty sure they've been told in advance that it needs to be more original than just " Clipping ", since it falls under " reaction " which is already flooded with horrible trash and " easy clicks ", just do better?

>>102062597 (OP)
oh wasn't there some posts about youtube becoming stricter on clip/react content? needing a higher rate of "transformative" parts for a video to not get smiten or something

>>102062742
Why would you think duplicating content is allowed regardless of permission?

>>102062651
>clippers help build vtubers
and Mumei just enjoyers

>filian clipper
And nothing of value was lost

H3H3 coming for the re-uploads and reaction channels.

Total clipper genocide

HAHAHAHAHA FUCKING NIGGERS
LAKERS >>>>>>>>>>>

>>102064086
>which the creator allows anyone to stream with
Wait, is that why whenever I tune in to Filian it sounds like a man?

>>102062724
If that's true, that seems extremely shitty and gross. Not only are her clippers forced to pay her to work for her, but then she uses their work on her own channel to make even more money for herself.
She's one of the top streamers. She's making millions. There's zero reason she'd have to take a cut from some lowly clipfag promoting her content for her or redistribute their earnings. She's just a greedy whore if that's the case.

>>102071209
when her clipper channel was still public you could see how much she's paid out every month
it's in the tens of thousands
she does it like asmongold where all the revenue from his youtube channel goes to his editors

>>102062597 (OP)
thanks ethan

>>102071209
the clippers have their own channels and keep all the money
she's just paying out bonuses for milestones

>>102062936
I watch my oshi's streams and then I watch clips of her friends. For something like hololive, it's literally impossible to watch all their streams, and for large events, it's nice to be able to see the highlights from the other perspectives. Not to mention the translations that a bunch of these clip channels do. You're probably a brown twitch faggot anyway, and have never spent a single cent buying merch or supporting who you watch in any way whatsoever. Meanwhile, the concert tickets I buy every year alone is more money than your entire mudhut village sees in an entire year.
In short, you're a shit-eating retard, should be shot in the back of the head seven times, and then have your subhuman corpse thrown in a ditch to be eaten by dogs.

>>102069185
>>102071343
I see we have some Hasan simps in this thread.
For the thread's edification: Ethan is suing people for full reuploads and maliciously NOT reacting. Clippers stay safe, or at worst get claimed, while remaining in good standing. Outside of lawsuits, Ethan, like Niji and Holo, claims clips from paid-walled content.

>>102071279
>where all the revenue from his youtube channel goes to his editors
DuelLogs does the same

>>102071279
It doesn't matter. She's still redistributing the top clippers' earnings while skimming off the top. These aren't hired employees. These are fans that were clipping her and she decided she wanted the money they were making and so she threatened to shut them down unless they joined her club and gave her their earnings. No other streamer works like this. The asmongold clipper/editor was hired by him to make clips. There are other asmongold clip channels that work independently of him and make their own money making clips while promoting him.
What fillian is doing is saying that you should clip for her so that she can take your money.

>>102071549
>She's still redistributing the top clippers' earnings while skimming off the top
all she does is pay out bonuses if you reach a certain amount of views
the clippers keep all the revenue they make and have total control over their own channels
stop making shit up

>>102062597 (OP)
>Youtube has taken down a filian clipper channel with 150k without any warning
Uhh... BASED?

i enjoy in clip enjoy my clip because clip ised to funny because long too work in stream so watched clips but not clip = death of vtubering

>>102071549
>>102071626
"She" isn't doing anything. Do you guys really thing a woman - worse,FILLIAN - has the capacity to create, much less manage, this shit? It's 100% her bf/manager and/or head mod doing it

>>102072061
her head mod wishes he was her bf lmao

>>102072061
stop being brown

>>102066038
you're the biggest fag ever, without clippers, people wouldn't have discovered hololive jp SINCE THEY WERE CLIPPING AND TRANSLATING THEIR CONTENT

Retarded losers like you don't support and just anti all day

>>102072132
keked lmeow

>>102062597 (OP)
I noticed some unarchived karaokes I bookmarked aren't there anymore either. YouTube might be running out of disk space

>>102072061
Yes.
Anon, I know it's hard to swallow, but some people are just better than you. Even women.

>>102073089
Or they're getting better at swatting copyright infringement.

>>102072061
>He bought the retarded cat girl act
lol
lmao even

>>102062597 (OP)
It was just a matter of time

total clipper death is the best care scenrio, watch streams or fuck off and stop giving clicks to some SEA loser with a clickbait title and AI subtitles

Clippers going away will lead to smaller audiences for vtubers.

>>102062597 (OP)
>Won't take down the shitty clippers that clickbait or false titles
Of course, because it's about envy.

>>102078256
How so? People who watch clippers don't watch streams, and the only people who might stop watching streams are the leeches looking for clips.

>>102062651
>You're a faggot, clippers help build vtubers
Sorry you can no longer make money off other people's actual hard work. Get a job.

>>102078367
>People who watch clippers don't watch streams
Proof?

>>102078726
if they watch streams they don't need to watch clips, checkmate.

The guy clips were really low effort.

>people not understanding that clippers basically act as advertisements for their source channels
It's hard to go 100% cold into a random new stream. Clips are short and concentrated events that makes it much more digestible to someone brand new to the channel. Of course this doesn't excuse poor quality clippers, but a random viral clip is essential to any growth on the internet.

>>102078917
clips are a way to sample a vtuber to see if you would like to watch their streams. its like a trailer or a commercial for them. clips led me to watch many different vtubers.

>>102079209
Good. I don't want vtubers to grow. This thing needs to be less known, smolder away from culture.

>>102079243
>>102079209
Then they can make and post their own clips on their official channel or a clip channel they run in order to attract short attention span viewers. Clips are fine, clippers are not.

>>102079209
>>102079243
this position would be a lot more defensible if the average clip wasn't like:
>vtuber swears or says something mildly sexual once in a 5 hour livestream
>VTUIBER ARE GOES CRAZIES AND IS OF BEINGS DOWN BAD JUST ENJOYERS *blushing ahegao thumbnail*
>comments: haha she is so unhinged all the time

>>102079308
They won't do it because they're lazy

>>102079426
There's plenty that aren't that. Gigi catching Kronii mumbling full on menhera despair accidentally while playing Minecraft was amusing.

>>102062597 (OP)
hopefully more go too

>>102079308
Most JP vtubers cannot speak English, you EOP retard. How the fuck are they supposed to make their own translated clips?
You are incapable of thinking about anyone other than yourself. Your twitch whore oshi doesn't have any fans that would want to clip her, but there's a ton of JP vtubers that benefit a lot from translated clips and have fans that work hard translating for them.
Kill yourself, EOP shitskin.

>>102062597 (OP)
>I woke under her
He gets paid zero dollars.
>>102064086
>recolor it
>implying filian even owns her color palette

Clipper channels are fully responsible for reporting their competition btw.

>>102063414
normie ass meme its a clip channel not an adults having consensual sex channel retard

>>102062597 (OP)
The clippers are getting clipped

>>102062597 (OP)
>Won't take down the shitty clippers that clickbait or false titles
When YT said transformative they meant clickbait I guess.

>>102078601
>streaming
>hard work

>>102069715
that's just the Filipino boy. But the model is extremely popular in VRChat and it gets used in mobile game ads and other shit. Also someone made a lewd account called Filianne that uses the model but I think it's gone.

>>102075292
karaokes aren't copyright infringement. If anything they are getting worse if that's the case.

>>102062651
>clippers help build vtubers
if they can't make it without clippers then just maybe they don't deserve any of it at all?

>>102089736
Your oshi isn't popular and it's showing.

>>102089599
As long it's a channel associated with a big corpo, they need licenses from the rights holders of the songs to keep the video up. That's why unarchived vs archived karaoke exist

>>102062615
Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

>>102085895
Meme has been around for many, many years. Lurk 4 more decades before posting again

>>102062597 (OP)
based ngl

>>102079243
concerts in the small/ex corpo sphere are a lot better for exposure than clips

Based

>>102064086
>Brownposting about Filian's model again, which the creator allows anyone to stream with
Yeah, if you buy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbmYkcsUTXg&t=5s
https://x.com/_spatsula/status/1809409079929934235

>>102093595
I'm actually mad the Rindo artist didn't go scorched earth on this bitch.

>>102082315
>he wants subhuman seaniggers to clip and """""translate""""" shit into subhuman ESL drivel
Lol get the fuck out of here subhuman. If you don't understand Japanese you don't deserve to watch Japense vtubers.

>>102062597 (OP)
good ridden
a little bit too late, actually

>>102085895
>its a clip channel not an adults having consensual sex channel retard
Yet clearly YouTube is fucking the clipper and making Filian watch.

>>102096684
>good ridden
Learn English seanigger.

>>102097273
1 clipper nigger

Nothing of value was lost. Filian is peak degeneracy of Western vtubing.

>>102062651
they are still recycling content anon.

>>102062597 (OP)
Yeah. Youtube is taking down channels that "don't do enough" to transform content.

>>102093680
I was hoping they would, she should have been nuked from orbit and disgraced. Now she gets to act smug that she got away with it, they should have destroyed her completely and taken every bit of revenue she earned using that model but, unfortunately the creator is horribly japanese and didn't want to cause a commotion.