Thread 102093312

>Saba can't pivot to being a reaction Andy
>Some Vshojo's YouTube channels will get demonitized
Damn, some vtubers will have to put in actual effort and play video games for a living.

video game streams are reaction streams

>>102093312 (OP)
Saba can switch to Twitch for that if she wants to. Not like she is new to that platform

As long as Twitch is still relevant, most of Western VTubers and VShojo will be okay

>>102093312 (OP)
a video game is not original content, 40iq-san

>>102093312 (OP)
Saba never said she was going to be a react-tuber, I have no idea why some people keep insisting she was going for the Fillian route, not even her Senzawa persona was about that.

>>102093467
nothing is original content anon ... everything was done before at one point in time there nothing original if you go anal on the defintion

>>102093521
Because Gura asked her chat how they'd feel about react content and indicated that management wouldn't let her do it except for public domain stuff (which she ended up doing).
In the end management was right because Hasan and h3h3 are destroying reaction channels.

Pebble thread

>>102093586
She can't blame management for put a blanket ban on reaction content (unless it is reacting to their own shit like Holo songs, fanworks and other Holo stuff) because you are literally reuploading and replaying the videos you are reacting live on stream. Unlike the regular Youtube reacts where they edit stuff and leave the parts where the reactor speaks up, this is impossible for streamers and will definitely trigger a copyright claim. Even Daily dose of Internet had to ask all perms to be able to compile clips into a video and I think he missed one perm, which caused a strike on his channel or something

>>102093312 (OP)
>dumpstering the clipnig leeches

If this is the sacrifice we will have to make then I will begrudgingly pay it.

>>102093312 (OP)
Zatsu > Games

Why do these newfriends equate vtubing with videogames? I know it's been the norm for a few years, but why did it happen? VTubing is much more than streaming videogames.

>>102093312 (OP)
Someone needs to check in on Asmongold

>>102093736
Isn't the guy on Twitch and his Youtube channel is simply clips of his streams? Doubt it would impact on him much, and that can be said for 90% of Western VTubers

>>102093735
Kill yourself, idolshitter.

>>102093815
Kek. Enjoying EN vtubing, friend?

>>102093312 (OP)
>wants to do react for years
>redebuts to escape cover's lack of free use rights Westerners unknowingly enjoy which allows shit like reacts
>Youtube itself kills react content within 3 weeks of her debuting
>she specifically boxed herself in saying she wasn't gonna bother with twitch
I mean I guess she can still do like a stream or two of it before the demonetization kicks in..

>>102093846
She locked herself in by streaming on Youtube even if this change wasn't made.

When are you retards going to stop posting this tabloid AI-generated site?

>>102093937
Anon if you google it you'll find articles about it by cnbc, business insider, msn, etc.
It's real.

>>102093312 (OP)
>>102093846

>>102093312 (OP)
Kinda based. Now all reactslop have to move to twitch

>>102093312 (OP)
how are they deciding what meaningful transformation is?

>>102094119
I'm guessing that turning on TikTok and scrolling it for 8 hours and then uploading your twitch vod to YouTube won't be monetized anymore.

>>102093521
gura antis only talk about the past, ignoring what she actually is like now

>>102093846
youtube doesnt allow react to begin with you get content id'd this is about clippers retard

she only wants to react to events like summer game fest, nintendo direct, playstation state of play etc
not only will she be able to do that, she'll probably get paid to do it

>>102093846
Wow, can't wait to see another redebut of hers

>>102094295
>she'll probably get paid to do it
Even Holos can do a watchalong without the need of getting any Nintendo bags, what makes you think Nintendo would send Saba money to react to their shit?

>>102094943
Step outside your bubble for once. Hundreds of streamers get paid to do reactions to game reveal shows

>>102094247
Guraschizo spams the same thread with generalized theme but always samefags it to make it Gura centric

>>102093467
You playing a videogame is original content though.

>>102097464
Yeah but companies own your footage, most of them don't exploit it though think nintendo and bethesda have fucked around to some extent. Its the reason holos struggle with perm autism.

>>102093312 (OP)
>She can't zatsu for 2-3 hours without playing videos in the background.
Huh?

>>102093586
Saba reacting to police footage would be kino

>>102093725
this

>>102093815
right after you, /pol/shitter

>>102093312 (OP)
pretty sure as an indie they can just combine multiple activities in the same stream. ergo, stream a game for 2 hrs, then zatsu a bit and throw in a reaction to a random video in the middle. realistically though, tossing the react content portion through some OBS filters will probably avoid much of the automated youtube flagging anyway.

>>102093312 (OP)
This is going to be interesting. How hard are they going to hit the twitch streamers that upload their VODs on YT.
Technically that's an unoriginal copy.

>>102093335
>every stream is a react stream
Chatting streams are streamers reacting to chat.
Gaming streams are streamers reacting to a game.
IRL streams are streamers reacting to the outside world.
Karaoke streams are streamers reacting to music.

>>102094295
She can do those while she was in holo, but she still did none of those

>>102093846
She's going to Kick. Bold move on her behalf.

>>102098829
most twitch chuubas consider their youtube channels a necessary evil, they won't miss it after whining about getting b& and farming sympathy points

>>102098829
Not at all. Its largely for AI slop some clippers might get hit.

>>102093312 (OP)
The question I have here is, how are they going to reliably enforce this?
Looks good on paper though.

>>102098909
>wow it's almost like streamers are just talk shows of the modern age, reacting to things just like jerry springer did in his time
lol that took you long enough

>>102099197
You are just throwing words together. "AI slop" would be original, a bad copy of something but AI will make sure not to 1:1 it.
Youtube already doesn't allow reuploads with xy filters like tiktok does so they must mean something different.
The clips I watch all have japanese subtitles (some even english) that could be categorized as educational. Heck some even have explanations for certain words/phrases

>>102093725
Fuck no

>>102098909
esto pero no irónicamente

>>102093312 (OP)
OP is a Nignog posting week old bait and needs to rope.

So just add captions, put a few zoom ins and meme edits in it and you're fine? Like most clip channels do anyway?

>>102093312 (OP)
Total PoorClipper Death

>>102093312 (OP)
good

It's funny that gura mentioned react content once like 3 years ago and you still have these catalog threads writing all kinds of stories about it.

>>102093616
bvtm thread
pebbles left for the tower

>>102093937
Quick question: whats stopping catalog bait thread OPs from being AI generated the same way? Is there any difference between Dexerto and /vt/ at this point?

I like reactslop sometimes. I don't give a shit.

>>102099623
Never reply to me again, spic

>>102093335
And game companies did try to argue they held the copyright on all gameplay for a while there

>>102100729
AI would probably make more interesting threads than the current numbers/bvtm thirdies

>>102098925
Didn't she do a Nintendo direct watchalong with Ame? I have a vague memory of this

>>102093312 (OP)
>playing video games is effort
games are the lowest effort unless its a subset of games that makes up only like 5%.
also, the type of vtuber to not put effort into actually discussing whatever they are reacting to in depth to actually make it interesting, are the same types that will just play bland casual games and/or FOTM games. you wont be any happier with them if they shift to gaming as you are now.

>>102093312 (OP)
Does that the dogshit clipper era is finally over after 4 years?

>>102094051
Nice to see even a schizo bow down to the bond of Mint and Doki. Anyone that thinks Elira is still a thing is a lost cause.

>>102093312 (OP)
again?? didn't youtube already demonitize react stuff?

remember all the react girls during the rise/popularity of Pewds?

>>102093725
if they can talk about something else than food and shopping

>>102103814
Can't argue with that

>>102099741
Ah so thats why it was cropped

>>102093312 (OP)
"Meaningfully transform" is as simple as giving regular commentary on what you're watching and discussing it with your chat. This is more of a crackdown on people playing movie trailers and news clips with little to no commentary and then hiding behind being a react channel to cover it.

>>102099741
whats also interesting is that they are also going after voices that may be altered, so voice changers or voices that don't sound natural may also be affected.

>>102108265
That is targeted from reports because of "impersonation"
Just dont be a AIfag

>>102108337
Could also be to cut down on the flood of AI slop channels where they have AI read out generated scripts and wiki pages.

>>102106417
>>102098925
Gura and ame reacted to E3 2021, particularly the bethesda and microsoft streams where they made todd howard jokes and shit
they werent ALLOWED to do streams like that afterward because Cover was afraid of offending potential future clients and such streams are only allowed as official sponsored shill streams since then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s15iykTq7ZE

>>102108532
probably because they called that guy a muppet

>>102093312 (OP)
The Youtube algorithm is so bad at promoting long form content that clips are pretty much the only way for people to discover new streamers.

Also shooting themselves in the foot, as in addition to free advertising for the platform, those things all combined gotta make up like half their views.

>>102108606
those were better times

>>102093312 (OP)
Saba has enough dedicated followers that she could go anywhere. Preferably, Kick over Twitch. They pay more and don't treat VTubers unfairly there.
But like Ironmouse, Saba can get away with much more than others. Saba's million+ views archived karaoke is a good litmus test.

>>102108532
>E3
2020 E3 is still a thing... no isn't

>>102093521
https://www.trademarkia.com/sameko-saba-99167112

She specifically listed reaction content as part of her trademarking Saba

>>102111644
She can list shit for all i care that doesn't mean it holds up in law. Even if she going into yearlongs lawsuits YT would stop her ad revenue at date X and dry her out.

>>102093312 (OP)
Good, fuck reactionslop. There's no point to being a chuuba if just streaming another channel's content with your face plastered over it.

>>102093312 (OP)
saba talked about watching videos on stream ONE SINGLE time 3 years ago and you faggots are still melting down over it

Saba will still do react streams and not care about it being demonetized. She gets enough income already so she can afford to have some demonetized streams.

>>102093335
you don't own any of the video games today, technically all streamers are pirating.

>>102111644
Insta trademark, a true superjew

>>102114860
>He thinks she does this for "the fans"
kek

>>102098909
>Chatting streams are streamers reacting to chat
Chat's words aren't copywritten in terms of you reading them outloud
Reading a book out loud for free could be seen as bad, not chat
>Gaming streams are streamers reacting to a game.
Yes, they didn't make the game and everything they do in the game was designed for them to do so, there is nothing there that is transformative because it was intended
Competitive PVP/Speedrunning being the exceptions due to meaningful emergent gameplay
>IRL streams are streamers reacting to the outside world
Yes, literally, it's also boring content for people to live vicariously through and arguable worse than any parasocial GFE shit
>Karaoke streams are streamers reacting to music
Transformative as you are singing yourself with your own voice putting your own spin on it ARTISTICALLY
Classifies as a cover and covers are acceptable

>>102115380
>But corpos do it for the fans.
Saba is a pretty good judge of what her fans want.
While Cover almost killed the success they brought to EN.

>>102093521
She did say she wanted to do watch-a-longs on member streams. Does that count?vkdt4

>>102098909
Based and truth pilled. Every (You) is just anons react slopping to your post.

>>102098909
So that's why I find vtubers are boring nowadays. I get to laugh more watching ishowspeed clips with his over the top antics over boring af cgdct

Living is just reacting to the environment.

The quality of a reaction is the soul itself.

Some people's reactions will have more quality in them than the whole life career of someone who never figures out how to react to life itself.

I've always found it amusing that watching a video made by someone else and yakking with chat is considered "react slop" and some kind of sub-basement tier content, but playing a narrative game made by someone else is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

"React" content has always been about how much the person actually engages with what they're watching. If they're just sitting there stone faced or eating food while someone else's video plays, that's garbage.

>>102117127
a game is interactive, a video is not. I don't even mind react content but you're retarded if you cant figure out the difference

Did that kike Ethan Klein really get it done? Does their influence over media have no bounds???

>>102114939
You never have to connect your Switch 2 to the internet for 1st party games. I'd say you own those games.

>>102117948
Based jew

>>102093335
Only if they're Sony games.

>>102093312 (OP)
>posting dexerto twitter post to start a thread
You are stupider than any reactnigger, I just want you to know.

>>102119194
Those are just straight up movies

>>102093312 (OP)
saba has other talents, she can sing, she can explore some arts and crafts, she can read scripts from movies, with other vtubers like theatre kids.
there's a lot that saba can do, same for other vtubers.

>>102093521
saba has some real quality people backing her, she doesn't need to resort to the basic slop formula.

other vtuber? they arent as lucky.

>>102093335
big trouble

>>102093335
Nintendo did enforce that for years. ATLUS still does this. This is just off my head but the list is longer. Fuck the PS5 has a mechanic that will warn you not to stream certain scenes in a game.

>>102093312 (OP)
>some vtubers will have to put in actual effort and play video games for a living
not a bad thing