What can Nimi realistically do to stay relevant over the next 5 years?

collab with hololive

>>102093794 (OP)
5 years? I doubt she could even make it to 3!

>>102093794 (OP)
Sexy outfit for the chibi model

>>102093794 (OP)
Kronii retiring and patching their relationship, at its peak Kronii x Fauna was way bigger than Doki x Mint currently is

>>102093835
accordingly, replace both with Nimi x Mint

>>102093835
That's more because in 2021-2022 they were much bigger than doki and mint to begin with.
That said, I think she has a very strong core audience and she shouldn't really need to change much if she wants to stay the same size.

Honestly, I think the only one of the ex corpos who's actually hungry for growth is Doki, but for her it's less about numbers and more about opportunities.
I know Doki has a dream now of a huge indie concert world tour, but she can't consider it right now unless somebody else handles the logistics this time and she couldn't afford it.
I'd still bet the farm on it happening within the next 3 years, and Nimi's definitely going to be one of the headliners.

>>102093794 (OP)
take her shoes off

>>102093794 (OP)
The chibi model was, I think, better than she was prepared to give it credit for being

>>102093794 (OP)
New model or two each year

>>102094120
That never worked for Ironmouse.

>>102093794 (OP)
Do we even think anyone in holoen will be around in 5 years?

>>102094175
From the current set? Advent probably. Justice maybe. Kiara, Mori and the dogs will die before they leave Hololive.

>>102093794 (OP)
gooner asmr

>>102094201
kiara nearly quit already, is doing more RM shit than ever, and already dropped hints that 2025 is the last year.

>>102094175
>Mori
yes
>Kiara
no
>Ina
yes
>Kronii
no
>Bae
yes
>IRyS
yes
>Nerissa
no
>rest of Advent
yes
>Justice
no

>>102093794 (OP)
Have sex with me on stream.

>>102094175
Bijou, Mori and Fuwamoco don't have the qualifications required to gain a long term visa. If they want to stay in Japan their only choice is staying in hololive.
Bae, Ina and Roara are borderline. They might get another job that can get them a visa but it's very unlikely.

>>102093794 (OP)
Me

>>102094221
>>102094229
>Kiara
Look at this fool

>>102094256
She doesn't need Hololive at this point and Gura and Ina leaving really fucked with her. Majority of KFPs already support notKiara anyway, it's like a strange hybrid thing she has going on now, similar to Matsuri and Noel. You could argue Ina and Mori are similar but Ina literally has no reason to leave for it's extra money and Mori is tied to her label.

>>102094256
>>102094301(Me)
Ame I mean, not Ina.

>>102094229
dis nigga thinks shiori will be around in 5 years
I wouldnt even bet on her being there in 5 months

>>102094315
How can Shiori make money outside of Hololive? What the fuck would she even do?

>>102093794 (OP)
Collabs with gura and other talents that will graduate in the next five years are you kidding me lmao. She doesn’t have to do anything. Time and time again I see ex corpos losing relevance then a graduation brings them back on the map then again then again and the bigger they are the more it works.
>>102093929
Doki is just not a main character and needs to stop pretending to be one nijisanji handed her a career on a golden platter and she still cant capitalize even with her constant buff streams and reinvestments.

>>102094340
sister seethe

>>102094315
Shiori would unirronically hit 2 view within months.
She was unpopular as an indie despite not being unknown because of being one of the very first EN vtubers.

>>102094367
Nah she'd be 500-800CCV if she avoided s-team and SEAmales. 100-300 if she went back to what she was.

>>102093794 (OP)
She's already formed the indie avengers collab group. It will only expand as more corpo vtubers keep leaving as their contracts expire.

>>102094400
Literally how is this any different to Vshojo at this point?

>>102094399
Either way it would be incredibly stupid on her part to leave and I don't think she's stupid enough to do it.

>>102094415
Vshojo has financial and contractual obligations, as well as backend help. It wasn't just a friend group.

>>102094415
vshojo was started with whores

>>102094415
They haven't started backstabbing each other over politics/money yet like vshojo/other /lig/s.

>>102094340
>Fauna
>Gura
>"losing relevance" when they graduated
What planet are you on and what do they have in the atmosphere that made you this dumb

>>102094485
planet holocope

>>102094431
As things currently stand, I agree, but you're retarded to think there's no incentive for them to group together soon and create some umbrella ex-corpo...corpo, that provides similar services as VShojo where they all get to keep their IP. It saves a lot of money and stress having some centralized management team to help with merch, stream assets that can also bring in sponsors and concert opportunities. They all individually have managers anyway so sharing resources will be a natural next step.

Everyone keeps thinking Hololive EN is in trouble because of this ex-corpo team, but in reality it's VShojo.
>>102094433
Anon...
>>102094447
Twitch streamers are subhuman, you can't compare them to youtube ex-corpos.

>>102093794 (OP)
bikini model

>>102094415
VShojo is experiencing the same thing as Hololive and Nijisanji right now with talents leaving and still collabing with each other. But it's even worse for them because their talents can leave with their model and still collab with active talents. Most people only care about the collabs, so if everyone can leave and still collab with each other what's even the point of the corpo?

>>102094501
no matter what rrats you believe about mint they are not projekt melody

>>102094501
>Anon...
nta but in what universe are any of those four "whores", let alone on the level of the original vshitshow lineup? Projekt Melody, lewdcast, hello?

>>102094127
The mouse need a coffin. Nimi has many tricks under her sleeve

>>102094501
It would be kind of interesting to see a vtuber corpo formed that's owned by the talents themselves. It would basically be the vtuber version of OTK (hopefully minus to the scandals)

>>102094301
You're mistaken in your assumption that a majority of KFP support notKiara. I don't know why everyone acts as if all that matters are the biggest paypigs when there's thousands who just buy the merch and watch Wawa for fun, maybe occasionally sending a small SC. Not to mention that she won't ever get as big a stage as she's offered in Holo, and she really likes preforming.
What you're seeing/hearing is more her wanting to have something outside of Kiara to point to, given none of these women own their music or can even technically point to their time as their character online as 'proof' of ability. She specifically talked about wanting something less 'anime girl' for her album purely because she wanted something she could point to if this fad ever dies down. Nothing lasts forever, and making sure you have options if and when the time comes that it does end is not a stupid thing to do.

>>102094501
Who would head this Indie Avengers corpo, then? Rei-chan?

>>102094824
Dooby, unironically. She's always preferred being in the background working on big projects.

>>102094301
Kiara will be Kson 2.0, whoring and becoming irrelevant.

>>102094759
>You're mistaken in your assumption that a majority of KFP support notKiara

https://www.ticketmaster.com/oshispark-presents-idol-harmony-washington-district-of-columbia-08-09-2025/event/150062DBE33962C6

5 days later VIP still available

>>102096509
Kiara trusts in herself enough to not have to get a tattoo to prevent her from doing BBC porn

>>102093835
Never happening, Kronii is too proud and resentful.

>>102093794 (OP)
She has a 120+ IQ. The Indievengers will actually become a thing as more like a group rather than an agency, and the rest of the girls will let her call the shots just because she's the smartest and they don't want to think.

>>102096549
What are you trying to do, prove me right?

>>102097168
She cried in Fauna's graduation stream and that wasn't even half a year after she ignored her in the entire 7d2d series, the recovery process might be slow but it isn't impossible to happen

>>102097168
More like too stubborn and pitiful

>>102094499
Also known as the third world.

>>102097314
>she cried
Yeah, tears of JOY.

>>102097822
I know this board has a hateboner for Koreans but they're not that petty.

>>102093794 (OP)
Seduce a chinese biolab tech and release another global pandemic so everyone has to stay home again.

She's already doing better than Saba, she doesn't need to do anything

>>102093794 (OP)
She needs to put on a Sally wig and pretend to be Sally.

>>102097988
>She's already doing better than Saba
by what fucking metric?

>>102093794 (OP)
sperg wrangling Saba obviously.
Also this: >>102094060

>>102097930
No one's generalizing to all Koreans, it's just Kronii. I honestly can't imagine anyone else in EN being that passive aggressive ON SCREEN for over a year, with a gen-mate no less. Even the Gura/Mori situation is still questionable because they're both professional enough to at least try to keep it out of streams. Meanwhile Kronii still acts like Fauna killed her dog or something.

>>102099075
that's not true, take your meds

>>102099123
Find just one 1:1 conversation between the two of them in 2024 that wasn't after Fauna's graduation announcement. Even during collabs, Kronii conspicuously stays away from Fauna, ignores an in-game friend request, etc. You literally had artists complaining on twitter about the lack of new KroFau moments to draw.

>>102093794 (OP)
They don't need to. If these bitches are playing the long game they could invest their money in something and could effectively "retire" from internet shit quite comfortable. And that's assuming they don't share the ubiquitous goal all women have which is marrying a successful man.
All the actual JPs, assuming they don't go on to work on Japanese TV because I think most could transition somewhat easily, could just get married or start buying up properties in Tokyo, they rent them and they themselves live off rent.

>>102099268
Meanwhile the bombshell of Fauna convincing her oshi to join her in making a clean break from the company was swept under the rug.

>>102099463
Holomems aren't compensated for sponsorships or merch. They're contractors and are paid a pittance with SC money on top. They really don't make anything as much as you think.

>>102099516
>They really don't make anything as much as you think.
Matsuri is the runt of JP and says she makes a lot of money still

>>102099516
What? Are you serious? Sure they run the gamut, but even lowballing a figure, I am sure Anya still makes a little over 100k USD a year which means she lives like a queen in Indonesia. And then you have people like Suisei and Mori, who probably make over a million a year.

>>102093794 (OP)
Bold to assume shes not retired by then

>>102099753
Why would she go through all the effort of graduating and reincarnating only to fuck off after 2-3 years again? That makes it sound like a quick grift.

>>102099516
>not compensated for sponsorships or merch
Nigga, do you actually watch streams?
Mori and Gigi have both confirmed they get paid for sponsorships, most blatantly with Mori's Raid Shadow Legends stream.
And to claim they get nothing from Merch is straight up retarded.

>>102099777
Everything is a grift to you retards. Blame yourselves; retards like you is why these bitches get rich with very little effort.

>>102099645
Matsuri says a lot of things. I bet you believe that was her brother.
>>102099681
They make over 100k a year for Cover. That's how contractors work in the real world anon.
>>102099829
Mori has a special arrangement with UMG.

>>102096818
What?

>>102099875
kson said she got a distinctive tattoo to ensure she wouldn't do JAV for the tattoo would obviously reveal it's her

>>102094501
>As things currently stand, I agree, but you're retarded to think there's no incentive for them to group together soon and create some umbrella ex-corpo...corpo, that provides similar services as VShojo where they all get to keep their IP.

Maybe for the ex-holos and mint at best, but there's still the problem of it being silly to start tying each other together financially without somebody actually in charge, IE their own Gunrun. Considering their size, there's really not much anyone could offer them that would be worth a cut of their income.
As for Doki, she wouldn't be heading anything of the sort. She's said outright that she won't ever try to make or run a vtuber company or org as long as she's still streaming. She wants to make projects and events for indies, but not to manage or be responsible for their reputation or finances. (Mostly because she's still worried about her own ex-niji rep hurting others associated with her)

>>102094891
Yeah and she also has a history of dropping projects a month or two in. I wouldn't trust her to manage or organize anybody.

>>102094301
>Ina leaving
You weren't supposed to reveal that this soon baka

>>102093794 (OP)
Same thing she's done for the last five. As long as the "formers" make their own yuri anime, they don't need their old branch, which seems to be heading into Niji territory anyway.

>>102099904
That's bizarre given how her face and other features are already well-known. Is JAV really that tempting?

>>102099872
>disregarding the rest of the post
>thinking Mori is an exception
I implore you to watch more streams, and realize that if anything, you the ratio of revenue on Merch vs Superchats reversed.

>>102099985
If you're famous and hot porn companies will keep sending you invites to do porn for a ton of money

>>102100147
Noel...
Marine....
Lamy...

>>102093794 (OP)
Actually stream

>>102100305
Shiori has been streaming for over 7 years...

>>102099645
A lot of money, sure, but still less than you think. The current ENs are definitely not millionaires outside of maybe Mori on the EN side if only from constant reinvestment into the brand, and even then they probably don't have a million usable dollars lying around, as that is a LOT of money. The retired ones, maybe. Gura and Fauna didn't exactly reinvest much monetarily into their channels.

A funny little insight, though. Doki said that her concert took around 2 months of income to make, which she said was around 50k (minus travel expenses, singing, dancing lessons, rush orders on assets, etc.), so maybe 60kish total, giving her around 25-30k a month, or 360k a year as what we could see as a high-end indie.
She's the most corporate of the indies who monetizes everything and pays everyone (often overpaying), so she ends up having not a lot of spending money to use outside of her channel (which she generally spends on either artisan bread or her dog) and is always hunting for more sponsors and merch opportunities to help fund her projects.

Considering Nimi hasn't had any new merch or sponsorships, and still has superchats off, Dooby hasn't really monetized much of anything or taken too many (any?) sponsorships, I'd assume the two of them are mostly living off the holo money they built up.
Doki specifically said that Dooby's 3D studio setup was far more expensive than anything she could afford, too. Holo definitely pays well.

Saba is probably rich as fuck though.

>>102093794 (OP)
Relevant is a fake concept

>>102100581
Nimi has at least 12k memberships so shes probably living off that

>>102100581
Idk what point you are trying to make. Sure they don't all earn in the millions, but my point remains that any of them could budget and buy property/invest and live comfortably, or just marry rich. Some people would go crazy with 30k a month

>>102101537
given she's already paid for two 3d models and 2 live2d models and only has 5 months of memberships (some of which aren't even in USD) and one merch drop, i don't think she's THAT well off just yet. (not counting her cat expenses which seem rather significant.)

>>102093794 (OP)
Stream with her friends.
Keep making efforts to appear at events.
She'll be fine.

>>102093794 (OP)
Not care about you retards.

>>102096818
>>102099904
hang yourself windy you fat fucking retarded blob

>>102100305
But enough about Marine

>>102099268
I didn't wanted to believe the rrats. The only time Kronii even mention say Fauna's name was when Gigi forced her in a collab the day prior, her voice cracked in such a strange way as she finally said "Fauna" after over 1 year.

No room for doubt after that.

>>102093794 (OP)
Indievengers with Dooby, Gura, Mint, Doki, etc.

>>102094256
Kiara is dogshit. You just like her too much, hence the bias. Even anon has a bias for noping out on advent.

>>102108874
You are faggot

>>102093794 (OP)
Marry me

>>102109072
kek

>>102093794 (OP)
cats can always die again

>>102094201
I don't see Liz staying for the next 5. CC was a literal who for almost 4 years so she probably wants to milk holo for as long as possible.

>>102094201
The number dogs will go wherever the numbers are higher, even if it means leaving holo

>>102108874
Kiara appeals to other women. You just don't get her content.

NIMI STOP FUCKING PEEING

>>102111996
Like permanently?

>>102093835
Are kronies really this deluded

>>102115560
More like shipfags are deluded. Weird they're sleeping on TimeRyS tho, it's been a thing more and more often lately.

>>102116838
>TimeRyS
Are all kronies deluded shipfags?

>>102115560
yep, it's the only way they can justify to continue oshi Kronii. She's actually a good person that will do the right thing... at some point

>>102093794 (OP)
Latex maid outfit reveal
Then later cosplay it during an ASMR stream

>>102117186
>will do the right thing... at some point
she hasn't graduated or killed herself yet so I'm starting to lose hope

NorthernLion collab

>>102093794 (OP)
nothing, she has no community now, only paypigs.

>>102117351
Based on that rare handcam, she probably has a tiny skinny flat vegan frame. I don’t think latex would be a good match.

>>102116838
>Irys
Well yeah she's unshippable.

>>102119233
I think there is secret artefact footage that shows her to be more “healthy” shaped.. generic anime schoolgirl bodytype i think..

>>102119233
>>102119542
>flat
>skeletal
>acne
>bunions
She's perfect

>>102119595
Too vague. You lost me..

Become something more than just "legally distinct Fauna"

/thread

>>102119718
You don't /thread your own post, you absolute brownoid

>>102093794 (OP)
collab with Casper

Why are you dumfags doomposting so early?
Neuro a literally AI still relevant after 3 years and she keeps growing being a one trick pony

Unlike Doki that is a fps tranny and needs drama buffs to keep her relevancy Nimi is actually in a good position with over 10k viewers after a few months, she will be alright, even Mouse that is boring af is still relevant somehow

>>102116838
TimeRys is just gonna end like every other Kronii ship

>>102117186
Kronii is a real one, if she doesn't like Fauna, it's for a reason. Not wanting to associate with someone who hurt you doesn't make you a bad person lol

>>102119979
I don't think Neuro is a good comparison. Neuro can stay relevant as long as her creator keeps updating and giving her new things to do. A human VTuber, on the other hand, usually doesn't change much over the years.

>>102093794 (OP)
sit on my face

>>102120107
>yeah she's a vindictive mental case but at least she's uh... *checks notes*
>... REAL
Even Shondo was infinitely more gracious and actually valued her relationship with Fauna enough to patch things up after her nothingburger schizo crashout.
If you're somehow "hurt" by a famously level-headed sweetheart like Nimi and can't fucking get over yourself despite having once been close, the problem is you. Nimi still following Dottovu is way more than Kronii deserves.

>>102120389
>>102120107
What if fauna is literally the only non-menhera EN vtuber.. this is a real possibility..
>>102119979
Neuro mention(collab when?)

>>102120475
>What if fauna is literally the only non-menhera EN vtuber.. this is a real possibility..
I wouldn't go that far, sure some members do some weird shit from time to time but if HoloEN was full of Menheras it would end up like NijiEN

>>102120389
chill out napling, she's not your friend. You don't even know what she's done, yet you choose to shit on Kronii, the victim, for keeping to herself after Fauna let her down, crazy! Don't try to shift the blame, she has every right to choose who she wants in her life and not pretend to be close to someone she dislikes.

>>102093794 (OP)
In 5 years VTubers will be obsolete

>>102120572
Okay. Biboo, Ina and Fauna. Basically all pastel coded girls.

>>102094315
>Free grudgepost
We take those

>>102108874
Agreed on this talentless leeching whore

>>102120610
>t.

So anyway.. Nimi is latexcoded confirmed

>>102120610
>>102120653
Wow is it 2020 again

>>102121328 (me)
Only meant to (You) >>102120653

>>102121326
Every person i know that is into nurse RP is into latex so for me this has been soft confirmed since 2023

>>102093794 (OP)
Not your think-tank nimi, consider making out with women you've barely interacted with to a paying crowd

>>102120610
Least delusional kronie

>>102094400
>>102094824
It's akatsuki

>>102093794 (OP)
Keep streaming

>>102109322
Their other project is dead as fuck. They're not going anywhere. Literally nobody cares about them if they aren't FuwaMoco

>>102093794 (OP)
Not much. The strength of Hololive is their ability to frequently host big events to keep the fans excited and the medium feeling fresh. Indie vtubers don't have that luxury. They are pretty much limited to just streaming videogames all day and that is going to get old.

>>102121371
This is real.

>>102093794 (OP)
5 years? Go back to hololive. You don't stay relevant as an indie for more than a year at max.

>>102093794 (OP)
just exist

>>102093794 (OP)
monthly fansly

>>102097988
Saba is superior to your slut

>>102122443
>>102097988
Highest effort falseflag

>>102120107
After the whole Sally thing it's clear that the only "real" thing Kronii is, is a real menhera.

>>102122266
Virtual Vacation wasn't even a week ago. inb4 "not big enough"

More ASMR but unironically. That was something that made her stand out in the corpo days, since EN is allergic to that shit for some reason

>>102093794 (OP)
Apply to Hololive

>>102123823
I look at YouTube right now and there are 8279282 ASMR vtubers, she doesn't need to force herself if she can just keep her audience with funny gaming streams. The market is oversaturated because tapping your microphone and making lewd noises for an hour is actually easier than compelling yapping and making jokes for 3-4 hours.

>>102123963
She did release a new ASMR video under her old name recently. Chances are she'll keep doing it once in a while.

>>102123823
she was the runt while doing asmr stop begging

>>102124010
Yes, a short remake of her first ASMR as a charity incentive. And nothing else in nearly 6 months. Some people expect her to return to at least weekly ASMR, for comparison. That's not happening.

>>102117186
>everyone turns on fauna
>kronii must obviously be in the wrong
be bait to believable used

>>102124808
Kronii and maybe Bae are "everyone"?

>>102124808
It's obvious she's the one who's the cunt in the story because Fauna was always nice to her and never ignored her, her in the other hand just completely pretended she didn't exist her for years and avoided every interaction.

>>102093794 (OP)
Phase in.

>>102124875
>never ignored her
Easy to do when you’re a narcissist who thinks you did nothing wrong. Even easier when you know she can’t fight back.

>>102125019
It sucks that your oshi is a petty grudge holding menhera with a stick up her ass but oh well, it's your funeral.

Topic reply: Literally just talk. Her voice is magic.

>>102124808
>everyone turns on fauna
The opposite happened. Kronii is the only one with an issue she's a menhera bitch

>>102093794 (OP)
Web animations
Manga

>>102093803
not happening

>>102093794 (OP)
just keep streamin'

>>102124808
nobody turned on either one. kronii turned on fauna, that's literally it. i don't even think fauna holds it against her either.
it just seems like an unfortunate circumstance came to pass in a stressful, high pressure environment. sometimes things just work out that way.

>>102123036
Kronii is a menhera for loving her sister and worrying about opsec

>>102094221
Oh no