Thread 102094058

Brings You Back From the Dead Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.

Keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya | https://www.youtube.com/@zentreya

Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussion

Previous Thread: >>102085631

dead fucking org
dead fucking thread

Fat Latina Ass

I give VShojo two weeks, tops. I think all the talents would be just fine if VShojo folded, it's no shade on them and I don't wish them ill. But it's over.

I MISS FROOT UUUUUUU

>>102094087
gigamouse

so did anything ever happen with those auditions last year

>>102094125
zen killed vshojo being a saviorfag

>>102094125
It wasted money and time, thank you Zen.

>>102094134
a fair audition process isn't killing any other corpo but go off

I miss Zentreya

God I love Mouse just chatting.
Rest well Rat

>>102094094
Honestly whatever is going on I hope we find out sooner rather than later.

>>102094152
Different business models.

>>102094152
Any other corpo takes a lot more money + the IP from the talents. Vshojo could have just skipped auditions and just scouted which worked well in the past.

>>102094152
>a fair audition process
Putting priority on 2views and vtweeters and rejecting larger indies isn't fair. It's like casting a homeless person over a talented actor because the hobo needs the money more.

I miss lewd waifu Mouse

bum

>>102094245
I miss Mouse telling us when she has wedgies or she hit her boobs on accident, but then again maybe they just haven’t happen in a while.

>>102094094
This but phase connect

>>102094245
>>102094363
Bot broke

>>102094551
Not a bot, I do miss lewd waifu Mouse

>>102094616
bip bop

>>102094776
da hoos

Dead.

>saves VShojo from no streams by playing LoL
Well... Aren't you going to thank her /vsj+/?

>>102095374
no one cares, this is an anti thread now

>>102095417
As it should be. Vshojo was never meant to be on this board.

>>102095428
8 won...

>>102095428
total vwhourjo death

look at this lil nigga

>>102095677
Another example of something being better before Vshojo touched it.

look at this lil nigga

>>102095417
>now

pre Vshojo Mouse

>>102096145
Soon we'll have post Vshojo Mouse.

sonch time!

Is Kson Japanese or American now?

>>102096145
I miss old Mouse even early days vshojo Mouse.
What happened in 2022

bip bop bip bop

>>102096631
money happened

>>102096401
She is sex

>>102096755
Sad if true

bop bop bip bip

>>102096884
Are you having a stroke?

>>102094239
But talented actor would try to overnegotiate the conditions, fuck everyone over and leave causing drama as 'talented actors' do. There must be some balance between sweatshop and circlejerk. Corpos are for jumpstarting 2views. Talented Indies have zero benefit in joining one. Overqualification is a thing.

Vshojo should host auditions for 2 views, mouse was one after all before meeting Mel

I miss Michi so much bros

>>102097107
Mouse abandoned the viewers she got from Mel.

Who invited Pikamee to join Vshojo?

>>102097157
Joe Biden. Yes the former president. It's a strange story.

>>102097157
how new

>>102096996
Is she wearing panties of not, I need to know.

So with Zen out of the picture that means we no longer have excuses to blame Zen if we made another shit pick for a new member.

>we
>another

I still forget that amalee is a member

Getting new members, at least those considered 4 views would also be difficult because there are like 6 people that would be questioned why they left or got fired before joining Vshojo.

>>102097157
Me

>>102097538
No 4view is joining Vshojo. Vshojo offers nothing for someone of that size.

Numi told Michi that it's okay to stream once a month, collect the subs/donos/bits and then not stream again.

>>102097573
Geega has already publicly endorsed this method of streaming.

>>102097599
She was in negotiations before the collapse. Also, as she said, she joined for merch support. Where's the merch drops, Vshojo? On top of all that, she's incredibly stupid.

>>102097573
For half the agency, streaming once a month would be an improvement

>>102097599
that's a normie

>Kson will never feed you balls while wearing pajamas
why even live

>>102097625
I'd watch her if she streamed at this time of the day and Michi wasn't streaming.

Ironmouse ASMR

>>102097599
She was cutting it super fucking close before joining on the 26th LMFAO.

kill yourself simon

>>102097573
Why spread lies?

>hiring 3 views there is a good chance they would take a portion of the Vshojo fanbase from existing members if existing members are boring or are barely alive like froot.haruka and hime.
>hiring more members means distributing more resources to members.
>members quitting or getting fired causes controversy to maybe make existing fans look else where for twitch vtubers.
>Any low mid, mid, mid high, or high 4 views feel more hesitant joining because a portion of their fanbase will get shared with Vshojo which might give them lesser viewers and for whatever reason they leave they might get less of a fanbase than before.
>alot of vshojo members that left the company will have vtubers question why they left personally(not publically for legal reasons in getting caught) before they make their decision joining Vshojo.

Any new member Vshojo acquires will more than likely be a 2 or 3 view vtuber. They should hire Bat.

>>102097573
michi became my oshi because she streamed so consistently, I'd feel bad if she disappeared

>>102097848
they needed to do EN nova when there still were vshojo viewers to spare, maybe right after froot got cold turkey
zen was right basically
now I fear it's too late

Do you think if Mouse does leave would she stay indie or join vchiban or geex+?

>>102097913
hopefully stop streaming entirely

Froot go live this instant!

>>102097913
stay indie

>>102097913
If she joined geex Connor would have complete control over her and their lives would be even more entwined, if they ever fell out it would be impossible to untangle their lives.

Serious answers only. Why do you think Mouse ignores the Nova girls? Does she disagree with VShojo's new approach to getting new members? Do they have nothing in common due to the language barrier? Something else?

Kson shows her feet on stream

>>102097896
You don't need auditions to hire 2-3 views. Scouting worked well for Nova.

>>102097968
She enjoys the power dynamic.

>>102098041
Bit of both. Vshojo always was a group of people who already knew each other but that has changed.

>>102098069
She hates marriage for a reason.
Their lives are getting more entangled already.

>>102098041
>She's a big streamer and knows her large audience comes with the caveat of antis as well, and not many would be respectful of not speaking english in their chats
>Language barrier with most of them
>Not much time overlap
>Assumption that Mouse ignores them just because she doesn't talk about them much on stream, could be different offline
>Mouse is busy as fuck

>>102098140
get a job

>>102098041
A. Probably doesn't feel like she fits in with them due to language barrier
B. Doesn't want her Fans to shit up their chats

>>102098140
I don't think she's really mentioned AmaLee on stream either. This year has just been rough for Mouse, which I assume is the reason, since she had time for Michi before that

Didn't Mouse actually try to collab with and talk about Nazuna? At least before Nazuna started avoiding everyone?

>>102098221
she mentioned last week they are making a cover together

>>102098273
no, mouse doesn't speak japanese and nazuna doesnt speak english

>>102098273
Yeah Nazuna was different she avoided people

>>102098308
The amount of things Mouse said are being worked on but never happen is a lot.

Why did Nazuna say she sent DM to Henya inviting her to collab but Henya said she never received any message from Nazuna?

>>102098377
because she sent it as Mike lol

>>102098357
Are you new? Mouse wanted to collab with her and did talk to her in Minecraft.

>>102098395
saying some words in a minecraft is not the same as having a serious conversation

>>102098391
>Henya hardly watches other vtubers
I'm going to ignore this stranger's DM DAYO

[Kson News]
She has to shit

This thread just hates Mouse, and that's ok.

>>102098571
I love Mouse.
I miss degen Mouse though.

>>102098571
kys schizo, I love mouse

>>102098041
>why NOVA fucked
Because they're dehumanized by design from the day one by being placed in some dedicated containment never referred to by names e.t.c. It might have unironically been more successful if there was no Vshojo title attached to it. Generational model requires you to kill previous generations and since it wouldn't happen that's just someone's tax writeoff

>>102098041
Mouse always used to like the fact that vshojo didn’t have generations, she used to mention how they didn’t do generations quite often. Then vshojo went and did generations behind hers back.

>>102098041
I dont think its that deep
She doesn't speak Japanese and they don't speak English(besides Hestia)
so she doesn't have any contact with them
and probably treats Hestia the same so it doesn't look like she only likes one of them

I hate all this why hasn’t Mouse collabed with x person, I don’t care, I’m here for solo Mouse more than anything, collabs are fun but beyond that I just don’t care.

>>102098711
What the fuck are you talking about?

why hasn’t Mouse collabed with Obama?

why hasn't Mouse made sissy hypno ASMR?

>>102098752
It seems like they do stuff like that pretty often. I remember Henya being proud that she was a hybrid EN/JP member before the site change and it made her feel special, then they stuck her in the JP category without telling her about it.

>>102098872
They did on Koko's stream this Saturday

>>102098885
More like lewd kissing and hugging ASMR

>>102098571
I don't get why the schizos do it, are the (you)s that worth it? It's fun to bait sometimes, but you can get replies that are so unsubtle and tryhard, for what? It's silly, and it just happens because Mouse is big or some nerd got banned by a member

>>102098841
In some ways I think Mouse being an indie would almost be a good thing in a way, because no one has any expectations of indies collabing with people other than their friends.

>>102098920
>>102098885
Mouse spent all that money on an asmr mic only to never use it.
asmr is still a reward listed on Mouse Patreon btw

>>102098935
Other 'big's have less hate.

>>102098967
It would be a good thing in a lot of ways.
I think Mouse has been scared of doing or saying something after the whole n*x thing and being the whore org because she’s more worried how it will affect the org

>>102098967
It would be great for Vshojo if she left, honestly.

>>102099011
I remember her sounding pretty frustrated once and saying exactly that. She restrains herself a lot because she doesn't want to do or say something that would negatively affect the other members.

I wouldn't be surprised if mouse spends her days here talking in the 3rd person.

Ironmouse actually hate Connor

We gonna do another complain about mouse loop today?

>>102099132
If only

>>102099105
I think if I was a famous vtuber sometimes I'd pretend to be a knowledgeable anti just to see what people would say to defend me.

>>102099105
She might not do it herself but I do believe in oficial shills pushing the narative

>>102099135
You have a wild definition of complain.
Sometimes it’s just a discussion anon.

I wonder if I’ve ever replied to Mouse or she’s replied to me.

>>102098935
Mouse is an easy target because while most of her schizos are trolls who don't really care. She also has a portion of actual fans that are extremely bothered when she lies about stuff or goes back on her word, or interacts with people they inheritly dislike, and she does this a lot more than most big vtubers. The trolls use the actually somewhat legitimate criticisms of Mouse to rile up both the people who are bothered by Mouse acting a certain way, and the defenders who wish to let Mouse do whatever she wants. They do this by blowing the issues out of proportion and constantly mentioning them. When people are distracted by streams it isn't an issue, but when no good streams are on anons will engage with anything.

>>102099089
Didn't she use the same excuse when she was asked about the nijisanji and selen situation?

>>102099089
I feel like she’s been told to be careful and it’s stopped her doing and saying a lot of things. Not saying she told she can’t but advised it’s a bad idea for vshojo.
Not to loop but Mouse did make some pretty drastic changes to what she was willing to talk about.

>>102099352
>le legitimate criticisms

>>102099352
Honestly this is true, I have said thing that frustrated me before then I’ve seen the same point used another time but this time with an added hateful thing towards Mouse.

Mouse shouldn't renew with Vshojo, it'd be good for both parties. Vshojo can better spread their assets and resources to deserving members, and Mouse can have much more freedom in her expression and content. It's a win win

I also wouldn't be surprised if mouse suddenly started walking and going places outside her house once vshojo collapses

>>102099352
>legitimate criticisms
Into the trash it goes.

>>102099555
this the hints are so obvious

>>102099515
>>102099561
You are part of the problem, you give the legit antis a reason to keep doing this.

>>102099580
What hints?

>>102099588
Gunrun has been keeping his golden goose safely locked away

>>102099588
He’s an anti ignore him

IM is faking it

>>102099582
Into the trash with you too

>>102099727
You are so much a part of the problem that you might as well be an anti yourself.
Go stay in discord if your so scared of people’s opinions.

>>102099806
When they're trash opinions, I have no reason to care for them.

>>102099877
If you reply then you obviously care.

>>102099889
I just like participating

We have too many skinny bitches. We need more thicc vtubers.

What's a suitable punishment for her?

>>102100451
I'd say
Missionary

Amalee doesn't really deserve to get shit on here a lot other than her only flaw is being boring.

>>102100451
headpats and being called a good girl

I see why mouse has so many mods and roxxy, if she had neither she seems like she would be fun to shit on, on twitch.

What do you guys think of the power of 3AM? Are they close to Vshojo yet despite the quitting and firing going on?

>>102100754
I think numberchimps should jump off a bridge

>>102100754
They would be officially declared Vshojo's rival company on Twitch if they somehow got Zen to join later which I doubt.

>>102098041
I remember that she did approach Nazuna back in the days and even said she wanted a SOTD, so no, the whole "language" exchange is just pure cope. Mouse just doesn't care about them, she knows they are there, will she help them promote them? Hell nah. Mind you, she never added them to her VIPs, never added them to her auto host, neither to her recommended channels on Youtube even after she added Amalee to her channel.
My theory is just that, since they are Loutlot's project and not a huge take on someone by VShojo, she just doesn't have the time to care about them. She tried a bit with Hestia and that's it.
There's obviously the thing that she also never cared about the applications likely because the first ones were her idea that blew in everyone faces

>>102100846
>likely because the first ones were her idea
Is there any reason to believe that?

>>102100873
It was a rrat back in the day but one that was basically (like with a lot of things) had a basis on things said on stream and what they were at that time, hence why I said likely. Mouse was pushing it hard even pushed Candii into applying, she was a major corpofag back in the day, and it was in the days where it was common to see her raiding smaller people or doing the deep dives. Obviously the decisions after had to be by someone, but it always striked me as a real possibility since an idea like that had to started somewhere.

If you want, you can dismiss it as schizo shit, as it wasn't confirmed as Zen did.
also I was looking around and found out the channel hasn't unlisted GEEGA, so she's still in.

if obkatiekat was as big as bathory_vamps on CB, she would still be dating froot.

>>102101182
>she
kek

>>102101182
Kill yourself Blackjack

>>102100754
lmao

>>102101182
Offtopic sunshine

>>102100842
>declare
they don't care about us

Mouse ruined Vshojo...

>>102101182
>fat tranny dick leaking precum
The money I would pay to see Froot's pretty face give that thing a BJ.

>>102101171
Mouse also said Sushidog should apply for the last audition. It literally doesn't mean anything.

>>102101427
She enjoyed getting her hopes up.

The person that plays the character Ironmouse is an evil and disgusting person.

>>102101676
I don't think chris broad is that bad

>>102101676
I think it's just the kayfabe of the character ironmouse and the person who plays her is very dedicated to the role.

>>102101676
Google Dockey and rapid decline in health soon inshallah

one day I hope to meet artist known as Ironmouse and fucking _hug_ her

>>102101845
and cough repeatedly in her face

>>102101882
maybe consensually

It's a shame it's Zentreya from VShojo's day off today.

>>102101956
51 hours of Zentreya from Vshojo remain.

>>102101956
It will be Zentreya from independents day off from Vshojo everyday soon

>>102101986
She will finally be free from Vshojo's grasp and be allowed to make good content

>>102102051
I wish, I am reminded that we will never have SNIVS again.

>>102102051
Yes surely not any more of sitting silently whole 6 2 view nobodies screech autistically.

>>102102126
Zen always had froot and haruka but they are both gone.

>>102102268
you think there lack of streams was to avoid zenhera?

vshojo could have had this
https://x.com/EbikoVtuber/status/1942891176761102451

As much as I don't care about this thread, stop shilling your disgusting coombaits, Simon.

>>102102436
you're just afraid at someone outtittying the rat
https://x.com/EbikoVtuber/status/1937997585265959343/photo/1

I hate the ligger anon that showed simon this clip
https://files.catbox.moe/nno7bl.webm

>>102102306
Moose did a horrible job then.

mouse bros they are making fun of us on /lig/
>>102102801

>filian collab with manny.
alot of sea fans are going to leave vshojo to filian now. That concert in filipino island feels like a waste now along with having Garnt as a friend.

>>102103094
That's rough, the catalog told me that 100% of us are SEAs kekaroo

>>102103094
wonder how much money she threw at him for this lol

>>102103094
tabs

am i supposed to know who that is

>>102102436
Thanks for stopping by enlightened 8 god.

>>102103094
I'm pretty sure 90% of VShojo's SEA viewers watch Michi (maybe like 5-10% of her audience) and she's friends with filian anyways so it all works out.

>>102099352
most sane take
I really like mouse but her content has gotten lazy, it's all just react slop or sitting almost completely silent playing a game. she has lied about subathon goals and gone back on her word on stuff so many times. When she's on stream she barely seems like she's enjoying herself unless she has a new model or if she's doing stuff with Conor.

her streams are just her super close up to the screen saying THAT'S CRAZYYYY about some random clip she's reacting to and it's sad

I hope VShojo shutting down gives her back whatever it is she lost.

>>102103094
Dont forget Gunrun is also part filipino.

>>102103680
>i like mouse
Surebud

>>102103767
Don’t forget Numi is filipino

I will be glad if /flip/ takes all the sea users from here.

>>102103843
it's ok to like someone but acknowledge that they used to be better.

>>102099352
The biggest truth to accept is that Mouse isn't quite deserving of the fame she gets. Now that she is charming and charismatic enough to get it, it's of course something to be appreciated. But most of her content is just not it lol

>>102103930
Too obvious

>>102104100
who are you to judge that.

chill with the out of topic posts

>>102100451
Lemon sized anal beads, and theres like 6 of them and she has to yank them out all at once and show her twitching asshole on camera

excuse me
when can i find the good geega pornos

>>102104891
>>>/vt//lig/
>>>/vt//big/

>>102104760
It's probably 8 posters shitting up the thread again. They organize raids to try to get us to move over there.

>>102105093
go back to your hugbox fag

>>102105118
I have to monitor them. If you don't call them out on it from time to time, they get emboldened and start gloating and competing to see who can shit up the thread the most.

>>102105093
it's not probably, it's definitely.

>>102105093
yea it's probably that anon who is banned making all the posts in here great detective work

>>102105160
>I have to monitor them
wew lad

I'm glad I went to sleep early that stream was terrible. I was looking forward to the vod but its just this kid talking with like 10% connor and like 3% mouse.

that place is really weird, they've got nova posters that don't know shit about vshojo and seem to never post in the /vsjp/ thread. It's like they are pretending to be vshojo fans. I remember someone posted bunny and no one knew who she was. It's a larpfest.

>>102105160
>I have to monitor them
This nigga retarded

>>102105160
kill yourself

>>102105093
Going to a place with ID's makes you the gayest boy ever

>>102105363
why are you assblastes about what some retard is doing on a complete diffent url

>>102105363
It's mostly michifags there since niji got their own board. It's also hosted by phase mods and is filled with russians posting cp

>>102105363
I've been here since the fucking board started and I barely know who bunny is because I'm not a dramafag

>>102105160
>t. Cross poster trying to drum up board wars

>>102105363
Does /vsjp/ even watch nova? the thread is super dead outside henya hours

>>102105647
It's just some kid who finds it funny to spout lies and cause chaos. Just look at the post earlier talking about niji. They'll get bored eventually
>>102105689
They do, but sometimes streams aren't so interesting. When it's Apex/League/GTARP time, there isn't much to talk about. Hotaru posters are aplenty

102105527

>>102105853
Cope

>>102105647
It's fun to shit up twice as many threads

It's so over for IM

>>102105939
Doesn't this fuck over Zen?

We need a fish

>>102105939
not so fun anymore uh youtube? they're desperate for human generated content to feed their shitty models

>>102105990
Yes
Good riddance

>>102105363
They see /vsjp/ as their direct mirror and they hate voms, they are probably more annoyed that /vsjp/ exist than /vsj+/. Does this look like vshojo posters to you?

>>102105939
KEKAROO suicide stream incoming

>>102106024
go back

>>102105990
Doubt it. It says fully AI generated and it's probably referring the mountain of AI slop that has flooded Youtube in the past year or so. Zen's a TTS but not AI. Like this channel I just found out about the other day that's at 1.8m subs because it used to make the stupidest ass videos of all time, but has since pivoted into 100% AI generated videos.

>>102105728
>Hotaru posters are aplenty
alright>>102105871

>>102106040
Guess it depends on how they handle it. If it's some dumb filter passing through channels, that would suck

>>102106064
Oh it 100% will be. Hell I'd say there's a good chance Zen gets hit as a false positive, but as soon as a real person looks they'll be able to fix it.

>>102105939
This will definitely be enforced properly and not arbitrarily at all.

>>102105990
Her TTS is proprietary so maybe not. I think it's mostly targeting AI slop

>>102106061
No clue, I don't watch those streams

Oh yeah, Zen's left, right?

>>102106024
It's like they want their escapade venture to succeed as if they have a stake in it. GRIM.

>>102106151
she talks about it pretty often

>>102106214
what's her favorite leader, anon?

>>102106040
The amount of AI generated content on YT is beyond comprehension. The ratio must be like 70% AI to real people the last 2 years. You mistakenly watch 1 minute of a video because of the stupid clickbait thumbnails and every fucking thing on the recommended becomes AI slop. All the comments in every video is full of bots. The dead internet theory is in full effect

>>102106214
All I remember is her showing off Bartholomew once in some opening I watched

We used to be kings

>>102106251
Blue/Yellow Nami. Current is Blue/Purple Reiju.

>>102106305
*Coldplay music intensifies*

>>102106326
I'll wake her up an ask if this is true or you are full of shit

>>102105939
hololive, phase, niji are dead on YouTube

>>102106367
ask her whenever

>>102106326
>Reiju
I'm still upset about what Oda did Robin. So many of the female characters share the same body type now
>>102106367
What's wrong with you?

>>102106392
anon, she is saying you are faggot and should kys.

>>102105939
the holokeks are more fucked all their whores have to reveal the old used up hag voice.

>>102105939
this doesn’t sound like it’s going to do much of anything to vtubers and people are just overreacting
wasn’t there already a change that people said would kill react and clip channels that didn’t actually do anything?

You're Gunrun. How do you fix this?

>>102106573
more purple
more gay
more retarded

>>102106573
sykkuno
moonmoon
asmongold

>>102106573
Release the Minecraft server. Let the +s into the server. Most active and engaged +s are brought in to Vshojo.

>>102106573
Get rid of the green ones get new green ones
and an orange

>>102106712
Also form VshojoXXX for lewdtubers specifically. Move Mel into that and let her recruit the first few talents.

>>102094087
>ButterMouse

>>102106573
by starting to make in house merch like bricky company does, even at the cost of having a smaller, more standardized selection of items
also being clearer with the fans, no new members for at least a year
the cherry on top should be paying the talents to have at least weekly collabs, nova style

>>102106712
>Let the +s into the server
repeating the same mistakes aye

>>102106803
could have just partnered with orchid eight, gave some money for them to expand and then there would not be an issue at all

>>102106861
Anon just wants his hugbox

>>102106872
the profit pie is already too little to share

>>102106872
That would mean Matara was right. Vshojo could never admit something like that. They'd rather burn the whole company to the ground than admit that.

>>102106900
calm down wolf of wallstreet

>>102106861
>mistake
It was great content.

>>102106900
based, fuck her

>>102106900
i actually belive this. there are higher ups in vshojo who just have a massive fucking ego and are just bleeding there talents dry

>>102106872
>gave some money
excellent idea, turn your only revenue stream into a charity

>>102106861
Sushidoggu on the Minecraft server was wholesome.

>>102106939
You know it's true. Mata was fired because she told Vshojo how it was in the merch game. They couldn't handle the truth that they just had no knowledge on how to actually run a fucking business and learned absolutely nothing over the last 5 years.

I've been out of the loop, did we find out what the oofs were about?

>>102106976
>charity
thats called investing you fucking idiot, companies do it all the time

>>102106975
>Oh, Gun is such a nice guy, he's so kind and considerate to the talents
So that was a fucking lie.

>>102106995
Wasn't it Michi's pet spider dying?

>>102106872
They secretly did this with Michi and Mouse's shirts.

>>102106993
>Mata says it wasn't merch
>Geega says it wasn't merch
>Some schizo on /vt/ "WE ALL KNOW IT WAS BECAUSE OF MERCH"

>>102107005
>investing
And what's the return, idiot? Unity? That doesn't pay salaries. Talent streaming? Doesn't fucking matter because Vshojo doesn't touch subs or donos. Better sponsors? Vshojo has proven multiple times that they don't have the connections to get actually decent sponsors for their talents. That's why everyone has a second agency backing them.

>>102107019
not gun or even panini, they both lost control of the company and can do nothing but sit back and watch it burn

why are we acting like the merch situation is still a situation?
I haven’t seen anyone /here/ complaining about merch since before Bricky even started hanging around vtubers

>>102107096
no one here buys merch, so of course no one is complaining.

>>102107071
merch sales, both companies profit off vshojo merch , better quality with actual good shipping times means more people buying the product

>>102107041
Well they haven't given the reason have they? People can lie

when are the phasemonkeys leaving?

>>102107143
Why would they lie lol. Everyone was saying it was merch, they could either not deny it or agree with it.

>>102107096
It has been shit since 2022 ngl
At least some were delivered

>>102107146
wdym these are obviously holofags

>>102107136
Collabs don't sell merch.

>>102107172
Because telling the truth if it is that kicks up a shitstorm?

>>102107096
BUT WHY WONT VSHOJO INVEST IN MY BOYFRIENDS MERCH COMPANY?

>>102107041
Is it still considered a merch problem if it escalates into something like "telling a person how to do their job because "x""

>>102107136
How do both companies profit? VShojo gets less than half the money from the merch they make and you want to cut in another company into that split.

>>102107146
When Vshojo announces it's closure and I can piss on their empty office building.

>>102107228
They have literally done that since the beginning lol
It was first shark robot, then Fourthwall, then Warren, then Fourthwall (again), and these days they outsource a lot to Agent Ink and Orchid8.

>>102107270
there is no office building mr aryancunnydefender1488[ph], it's all remote and incorporated in like some delaware mailbox

>>102107338
Plenty of businesses are incorporated in Delaware and have "satellite offices" in California.

>>102107019
The problem is almost certainly that gunrun is too nice of a guy to actually run a company. Look at his fucking backpack business, I have never heard of a single streamer who actually rented a backpack because every time someone comes to him to try to make plans to pay for a rental he just gives them a fucking backpack for free. This is cool when youre a client but not when youre an employee.

>>102106573
I hire high 3view low 4view talent that are young and impressionable you I can mentally manipulate them to feel dependent on vshojo even when the grow

We now have less than 48 hours of Zentreya from Vshojo.

>>102107338
They do have an office tho.
It's in San Francisco, it was even in one IRL

>>102107450
His backpacks are outdated garbage. No one is paying for his shit because you'd be an idiot to do so. Anyone who has his shit always has to add and mod the shot out of it to make it functional.

>>102107450
that why he was a millionaire before reaching 30 and you're not

>>102107179
every phasemonkey is a holofag but not every holofag is a phasemonkey

>>102107663
obsessed

It's over

>>102107533
and not a single last goodbye collab on the horizon

>>102108159
With who even? She went low-key Silver on this.

>>102108252
Kill yourself schizo

>>102108159
I wonder wtf really happened...she used to be the vshojo collab queen.

>>102106712
I'm tired of these blood leeching +s. If you want to watch 2 views sucking off each other vibes on mc, there's an event right now specifically made for you

>>102108308
>2views
Zen won't be in this server, everyone else's+s are 3view minimum.

>>102108308
>wants to create a walled garden
I've lived to see the day someone from /vsj+/ says this.

>>102106712
Geega's idea of vshojo only for the first weeks was the best. Now she's gone and you're gonna have to hear Arielle's screeching while watching Hotaru.

>>102108308
WhoSMP

>>102108308
no thanks

>>102106712
Hell yeah brother. I can't wait to hear Papamutt screaming.

>>102108382
I'm ok with that. I unironically enjoy Arielle.

>>102108370
It's just the schizo who rails against all +'s again. People should tell him to fuck off more and treat him like simon

>>102108490
>Papamutt
Zen is /out/

huh. orchid 8 did merch for PapaMutt.

I miss 2021 +s.

>>102108537
I expect Zen to fully partner with them and GamerSupps on July 11th at 5:01 PM PST.

>>102108563
They've move on to better ventures. Idol Snuffy. Never thought I'd see the day.

The ONE TIME Vtubers are in my town to see the last blockbuster and im OUT OF STATE. FUCK. I COULDA SAID HI TO ZEN.

>>102108603
i do not care about snuffy if she is blue. only orange snuffy is real to me.

>>102108668
HURRY UP AND RUN BACK, YOU CAN MAKE IT!

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>>102108370
not a walled garden, just not 2 view leeches

>>102108496
enjoy papamutt and whoever was on zen subathon