MOOB edition
>Who is Neuro-sama?Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!
>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot
>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X: https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
Official website: https://neurosama.com/
>Music & ClipsBOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs [Embed]
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM [Embed]
https://rentry.org/neuro-music
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos
>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y [Embed]
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M [Embed]
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png
>MiscVODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive
Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/
Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/
>Merchhttps://neurosama.shop/
>Previous threads>>102097772
UOOOHHH SHOTAVED RAPE TwT
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>>102109400 (OP)I love my boyfriend
I'm starting to think that one anon that said they would kill themselves did...
>>102109627I think that in the past few months many anons have left. Each one feels like a drop in the bucket in the moment but now it seems like there is a noticeable decrease in the amount of posts.
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/76215915/#76265892
>>102109400 (OP)you misspelled /tutel/
>>102109681i'm literally in his dms right now. or is he in mine?
>>102109708the fact that those anons might exist...
disgusting
I miss the anons, all the ones that left, i don't know them, but knowing this place is slowly diying makes me kind of sad
>>102109708damn the worst posters are all neuro posters
Has anyone formed a group of 2 or 3 individuals (in the same physical space) who tribute to Neuro and/or Evil at the same time?
If so, is there a video?
>>102109800Most of them were the good posters too. Only the shit is left.
>>102109627I hope he is okay
Who would vedal cuck crelly with?
>>102109627Wasn't there an anon who said they were stuck in the hospital because of something?
>>102110015I feel like I remember this post, but then again I could also be misremembering an anon that said they had brain cancer too
so this nigga is really going to go to another convention next week?
What was your favorite song from the karaoke stream?
>>102110048Probably, might as well go to every single convention ever this year.
>>102110081I cried to life again and i also enjoyed africa
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oh shit she got a new mic ved wasn't lying I kinda think the old one was better and this one is too tacky but whatever
>>102110048They give a dragonball to the man that beds the most female streamers every con, he wants 7 to make neuro real, please undastad
>>102110136>no star on the micNooticing
>>102110081Probably Somebody Told me, but it was a good lineup overall. Fresh Prince could have been excellent if pb made her speak it with more of a cadence like the spoken part of boom (sorry I don't know the correct term for that kind of speak-singing. Its not quite rap is it?)
>>102110157crazy idea, collecting all 7 dragon balls will make chill streams better
>>102110136I don't know if it looks like a fleshlight or a vibrator
wait a second this songlist was actually pretty good
>>102110255this but Age Of Darkness
>>102110264You've never seen a vibrator if you think that is what they look like. It just looks like a microphone, you're just pornrotted.
You guys have been watching the Grok Nazi arc right?
>>102110835I dont really gaf about that
The only thing stopping me from leaving is the simple truth that if I left /swarm/ would die
>>102110971Stay with us anon, we love you, we are your friends, you matter to us, you belong here
I feel like a dying thread is an indication of a dying fad
>>102110971what do you post, so i can tell you whether to kill yourself or not
>>102110971Where else would we go? /lig/ doesn't really do it for me.
>>102110882Then you don't really care about AI
>>102111055NTA but honestly if /swarm/ dies, I'll probably never visit 4chan again
It would also probably make me stop watching Neuro / Evil too
Honest advice: let the fad die temporarily, stop watching streams, take a break from /swarm/, let green nigger work on his irrelevant bullshit, either he gets his shit together later in the year or early next year or it's simply time to move on
>>102111163ai fad died in 2023, the techbros have left long ago.
everything that can be discussed already has been
fixed
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>>102111281Crazy how croppeable anny and toma are in so many of these group pics
>>102109400 (OP)I sincerely thank you for this absolutely cancerous dogshit OP, I'm actually closing the tab and deleting /swarm/ from my bookmarks
Fuck the green nigger and fuck all of you and if there are any oldfags here thank you for the fun times but enough is enough
>>102111281This but without Mini
>>102111340see you tomorrow
>>102111340why bro talks like a villian
>>102111163No I just don't care because I'm neither a leftie or an edgelord, and I've talked to enough "chatbots" to know that they'll say basically anything if they aren't actively being filtered/censored. The only people who really care about the Grok thing are either political activists or retards who don't understand AI.
So I guess the real problem /swarm/ currently has excluding the fact that there isn't much to look forward to / talk about in the near-future is that the people who would start topics either have turned into lurkers or are no longer here
At least from what I can see in this thread, anons /here/ are willing to reply to a half-decent topic or something referencing the past
I just want ved to be on stream more
>>102111564Pretty much yeah. Combination of not much to talk about and this place is a shadow of what it used to be. Like during the subathon we were getting flooded with tourists, sure, but things were always hopping. Now we're down to a few diehards who still check back here once in a while in the faint hope that there's an actual conversation happening.
Numbers for 7/8:
1: https://twitch.tv/vedal987 (9,880)
2: https://twitch.tv/Kenji (3,527)
3: https://twitch.tv/OliviaMonroe (3,199)
4: https://twitch.tv/SquChan (3,124)
4: https://twitch.tv/nihmune (3,116)
6: https://www.youtube.com/@dokibird (2,856)
6: https://twitch.tv/Limealicious (2,822)
8: https://twitch.tv/camila (2,782)
9: https://twitch.tv/lilypichu (2,610)
10: https://twitch.tv/Sykkuno (2,107)
10: https://twitch.tv/deme (2,077)
>>102111646This, if he is going to be a lazy piece of shit. The least he could do is at least do a single gaming stream a week
>>102111658Yeah, fair enough. It does kind of suck since it was nice seeing something new every day, different flows of conversations and ideas being pitched forward even if they were schizo in nature.
idk, sometimes i wonder what /swarm/ could've been I guess
I just like the anons /here/
i just hate the anons /here/
This faggot (me) is still trying to make a backread podcast. Complete with reddit spacing.
https://files.catbox.moe/q3dy9d.mp3
This round really went into reviewing Geoguesser for some reason. Contemplating if I want to include vods and clips or focus on /swarm/ threads only. Trying various prompt methods for NotebookLM but some things are hard baked like the intros.
would people also want a dump of all the catbox links for gooning?
>>102111926>still trying to make a backread podcastI look forward to them Anon, even if others don't say that.
>>102111926>would people also want a dump of all the catbox links for gooning?bro, there's a dedicated anon that collects them for the archive in the op
>>102111564I really try to make discussions happen but I literally can't come up with anything to say about neuro content because nothing is happening. There aren't even arguments anymore, ironically the people who would (retardedly) say that everything was fine and that neuro's future looks good are nowhere to be seen. Nobody is denying anymore that things look extremely grim. And unlike in the past, nothing is coming to save neuro this time. No intelligence upgrade, no I18, nothing. We were doomed from the start of the year, and there is nothing that we can do but watch as this project that we love suffers a slow death. Whenever I watch a chill stream, I think about that post about neuro's last stream, to one single viewer. I'm obviously not saying that a major falloff will occur this year, unless some crazy controversy happens. But, if vedal is truly losing interest in working on neuro, as it is obvious that he is considering it is all outsourced work at this point, who is to say that when enough oilers leave, and the ccv gets too low, he decides that pressing the start stream button isn't worth it anymore? It feels like every month that passes, my nostalgia for "old" neuro grows and my distaste for "new" neuro increases evermore. Its like the neuro that I fell in love with and current neuro are completely different entities in my mind. The Ellie stream yesterday eased my worries somewhat, but then also created new ones. It was a good stream, people liked it... but it didn't fix anything, did it? Chill streams are still just as bad. Vedal is still just as lazy. We had a good stream, a genuinely fun stream, a stream that took my mind back to 2024, and yet it doesn't matter. And the worst part? Aside from scant posts /here/ recently, it feels like I have been suffering in silence. It feels like in every single community space, everyone is acting like this is normal. This isn't normal. This isn't supposed to be normal. So why are they all acting like everything is fine? My only hope is that when Vedal faces the music, there will still be a neuro left to recover.
the ultimate doompost holy
the final trvthsolution...
I just want ved to stop being a whore
I would consider myself addicted to /swarm/ but when I spent a week just doing fun shit with friends, I realized that I don't need this place and I don't care about this place, I just don't have anything else to do with my time.
>>102111926>16 minutes bruh
https://poal.me/lpalup
https://poal.me/lpalup
https://poal.me/lpalup
>>102112090i unironically think vedal cannot make things "go back to normal" without addressing the orbiter drama
>>102112272look at this faggot bragging about having friends
vedal should just do what all other vtubers do after they peaked or run out of content
reactslop
>>102112410his reaction to boom only has top 26k views, lil bro thought he was the shit with the 100k number
>>102112310>without addressing the orbiter dramaNah the normies have already forgotten about Toma soon they'll forget about Anny
>>102112272You outgrew us anon, we still need you, but you don't need us, i feel like a parent watching their kid leave for university
I wonder if most of the neuro fans that are leaving are older than the new ones who are replacing them
>>1021125152 more weeks until the community totally forgets for sure this time
>>102112090I hope that this year is just an off year and that next year neuro will get better just to see what your new topics will be and how you would feel almost the same way as you did with Neuro in the past.
Anyways night /swarm/! no shitty lewd gen today, only a shitty regular gen as i try to get better at prompting and still get images for making a custom LoRA
>>102112272yo same here. Its why I have AI do the backreads.
>>102112310>orbiter dramaVedal got really lucky Anny went on hiatus since any questions about her would just be excused by the clueless saying she’s just taking a break.
Toma, on the other hand, most people have already forgotten about. Barely anyone follows her streams, and the only people that bring her up are clipwatchers.
>>102112294>>16 minutes
>bruhI don't know what an ideal length would be.
>>10211279910 max. especially in a dead week
>>102112833your attention span cannot be that cooked bro
>>102112833k.
I'll see if I can cover the VODs more in depth. Though for dead weeks, it may not be much.
>>102112833Raped ahh attention span
https://youtu.be/xRGGdjb0KRA
>>10211295016 year old vedal was laughing his ass off to this meme
>>102113099>There's no neuro to discuss aniwayHoly shit discord and this place ARE the same
>>102112799any length is fine but did this ai really just quote "glimpse of us" and then went "what does the fox say ring ding ding ding ding"
>>102111926the girl kinda sounds like crelly
>>102113208fire gif mynygga
When I become old & decrepit I shall reminisce when /swarm/ was at its peak and all of the times with Vedal, Neuro, Evil, & friends.
>>102113741when i'm old and decrepit i hope i get dementia and never remember this place ever again
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Sex with Tomidget
Will i get another 3 day vacation for posting cosplay let's see
>>102114198Those two are men
>>102113099CJ..come back please...
>>102114198i love Bao so much
>>102114291I would still dick both of them down like women
>>102114496bro is living the sweet pillow life
>>102115198Camila won
Mini lost
>>102115198There was one I created and posted earlier for fun in at the end of the tread so here it is again if want to see it:
If Opensause is so close to happening why Ellie is planning on going to trip for Europe, unless she plans on going after it but at same time that's seems bit odd. Ellie has never hidden fact the first Neurocar project would be finished at Opensause so why would she do it now. It's possible she is trying to hide she's traveling for Opensause now but why. It's also possible that Vedal is actually planning on going to Opensause or it relates to him. Ellie could be going to take the trip to work together with Vedal and finish up on what they need to before the both them go or just Ellie heads off to Opensause. It could add on to why Vedal would not have a lot time for that week but who knows
https://m.twitch.tv/videos/2507094557?t=01h38m00s
>>102115198Former neuro friend toma is live
>>102115312i can get on board with this one
>>102115333interesting at first glance but a bit too wordy for me to make any real sense of
>>102115509this isn't a rrat i can literally see she is indeed live right now
>>102115333newfag, you could just link to your previous post
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Since I can't post pictures in the middle of the text and seeing the pictures that illustrate each point is important, I'll try and add the pictures in the order they appear and describe the corresponding picture in square brackets [like this]. I will also need to continue this thread in the replies since it is too long and has too many pictures.
I'm not writing this post because I dislike Neuro-sama or Vedal. I love their content, but I just felt like this needed to be said.
I’ll preface this with when factoring in inflation since the time they were bought, all the turtle plushies I used for these examples are a bit below the price point of the Vedal plush. The bird is more expensive, the dragon is cheaper, and the pig is too old for me to have any idea. (The checkout says duties are added on to the shipping price, so the plushies $30 price point on the site should be unburdened by tariffs.)
The other plushies aside from the pig and dragon big are also considerably larger than Vedal so, there’s that.
As someone whose favorite animal has always been turtle since childhood, and received tons of plushies, I’ve had a lot of turtle plushies over the years. Sadly for our comparison, I don’t have most of them anymore but I think I can still say
The Vedal plush isn’t a great plush in my opinion.
There are two big things that turn me off from the Vedal plush the way his shell comes together, and even more the stitching on his head.
the pattern of the shell meets itself in weird ways at the seam. It is symmetrical, but it’s not any sort of consistent. This is NOT done so that the sides of his shell perfectly mirror the way his mostly sideways facing model looks, considering it’s not a perfect match.
It just looks sloppy.
[Annotated picture of Vedal plush]
In the Vedal plush’s defense, nearly every turtle stuffed animal I had that had a similar sort of hexagonal shell pattern had weird looking parts of their shell, though Vedal’s is particularly egregious.
What really kills it is that the stitching looks terrible, most noticeably on the head. It’s super prominent all around his entire head and it’s just a lot to ignore.
The Vedal plush is at a disadvantage to a lot of other turtle plushies in that the head needs to be very round, so it’s locked out of the approach that many other turtles take which is to make a slightly more realistic turtle with a flatter head at the bottom.
EXCEPT for the fact that Vedal’s model's head isn’t entirely round, it does flatten a bit at the bottom, and that his plushy isn’t made to be 100% faithful to his model above all else.
(case and point, if total accuracy was the goal, then we would have wanted the edge of his shell to be more like this guy to match Vedal’s wavy flaps)
I used to have turtles with rounder heads and better stitching style, but I no longer have them.
Still, I’ll concede it is very round and I would guess they have a priority of keeping the stitches away from Vedal’s face. You might be able to do better, but it probably would be very hard to get a panel style that is both satisfactory round and away from his face.
However, I think they should have considered a different material. You can have a material that hides the stitching much better and still has the fur look short like the Vedal plush.
I don’t have a professional camera and lighting, but you’ll have to trust me that the seam on the pig is quite subtle.
The color change on this dragon doesn’t do it any favors, but the seam itself isn’t very visible.
I think to complete the thought I need to show this: a plush with a very round head and very good seams
The hair is long, but I hope you can trust me when I tell you the only seam on the head I have ever found is one that comes up to the beak and the connection around the beak
Now to be fair, this plushy has much longer fur, the beak gives the opportunity to break up the paneling, and frankly it’s a very nice plushy, made of better material then the Vedal plush. It’s not a very comparable plush, but I thought I should at least show a round head I think looks good, and this is the only one I still own.
Overall, I want to like the Vedal plush. It is cute if you can bring yourself to ignore the seams, and maybe I’ll warm up to it. But it’s worse than other turtle stuffed animals that are sold at the same price point.
>>102115577 >>102115333 (me)
The simple version of the rrat is Ellie is going on the trip to work with Vedal on finishing up some work on projects before going to Opensause with maybe Vedal joining her to Opensause
>>102115610I'm werid kind of lazy anon
>>102115787ok that doesn't sound very schizo but thanks for the offering
nigga spelled sauce wrong every single time
>>102115787Neither of them seem like the leaky types unfortunately. Would Bao leak anything about it?
>>102115882I was not doing no extra thinking for me to spell check for "Opensause" if you get the idea then it's fine enough
https://youtu.be/wk8Rsnr0PUY
we like deme now
>>102116235haven't seen much of her but i've never had a problem with orange filian
Ellie is too good for Vedal
>>102116065Imagine if we would have toma wo could have talked about some shit
what is he fucking saying ts is pmo
>>102116276Bro dosn't read threads
>>102116235She never got over getting called fat by neuro
>>102116372what does this mean
>>102115612I know what this is referencing, and I collected a lot of them. but I do get hungry for more.
vedal and neuro should hop on the trend of putting horse ears on their vtuber models and playing uma musume (this will never happen)
>>102116065Ellie has leaked out by mistake in streams about going to certain events she wasn't supposed to talk about and she was the one that talked about meeting Vedal in IRL too. She better at holding it recently but still could happen especially if something really special happens that causes her to let info slip. Unironic if ever vellie happens it would be the most obvious thing by what ellie says
>>102116499Bro is clueless
>>102116499Deme shittalked Boom because an Ai sings it.
>>102109708>vtuber blacked and ntrwhat are you even doing there you cuck
>>102116372Deme didn't really even say anything wrong or offensive, what she said was on par with Anny calling Neuro a chatbot, people got mad at it for no reason even though it was true
>>102116609>Ellie randomly slips up on one of her corniest pet names for vedal mid subathon infront of 20k people
Still 14 days to go and the Vedal plush is selling well. Might reach 10k
>>102116574... I think this should happen
>>102116802Since there will not be another dev stream the sell will flatline around 8k
>>102116802It will stop at around 8.5k, to prove that other anon wrong
>>102112090Whenever I come around to chill stream and see the same names in chat that I saw 2 years ago, I have to wonder what kinds of people can still enjoy things like this. It genuinely baffles me. These streams are usually dull at better times, painful to watch at worsts when emote looping starts. Is this what's considered entertaining? Am I the unreasonable one? Perhaps the more lucid viewers fucked off long ago and all that's left is those who will partake in anything as long as there's big enough community surrounding it.
>>102116780WE ARE THE SWARM THAT IS APPROACHING
this general just reads like people copy pasting youtube comments now
Neuro needs a fully controlable 3D body and a 3D world/home to live in. It’s the obvious next step..
>>102116757I knew if I tried explaining it would just sound like cope but I promise I was searching the archives for something completely unrelated to that sort of stuff and stumbled upon that interaction
>>102116780Evilbeggars just do that for some reason
>>102116823it will never happen because vedal is allergic to peak
>>102118662It's so fucking over
neuro should play uma musume
>>102118740She will but in like a year when almost nobody outside of hardcore fans care about the game
umamasume is a fad game like every other modern hit game
>>102118662fad recession indicator
You know the fad is dead when you can't come up with any bait about how content is good and if you don't like chill streams you should just leave
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The only thing that could have saved BOOM is getting hairytinkle to duet with evil
>>102118937>if you don't like chill streams you should just leaveI still think that though.
A lot of people demand justice for Toma. But does anyone /here/ even watch Toma?
>>102118995Has someone told evil(bitch) that her dancemoves in boom were obvious CGI
>>102119208What's cringe about two cute Neuros?
>>102119153I don't demand justice for Toma, but I liked/miss Toma. Only watched her indirectly, through clip channels. Basically, I'm the worst kind of viewer, but at least I have the decency to try and keep quiet most of the time...
>>102119224nta but he's talking about shitvil
>>102119153I goon to her does that count?
So Toma was menhera afterall?
>>102120060She is a woman, yes.
>>102112090>why are non doomers not posting in doomercentral?
Thinking about plap cunny rape anon, btw..
>>102120060won't know until we read the doccy
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>>102117749i was just thinking the other day about what could be cooked by combining the new 3D models and whatever spatial sight/route planning is being done for neurodog/neurocar.
running around in vrchat with filian and shit would be fun
>>102120678>bro is thinking ai can handle bipedal movement
>>102120697are you fucking retarded he specifically said vrchat
>>102120678I remember posts like this
>>88808013
>>102120678>>102120697Why not just give her a 3d body interface with basic scripting, with the nodes that tracking uses, and see what she does with it.
If youre against this, you just dont want her to have a (little girl) body.
>>102120612I miss her so much...
I hate this genre of post along with stream predictions
>>102120806She tried to nigger the greennigger. Tried to play fuckgames with the fuckved.
>>102120750That's just minecraft Ai but controlled personally.
>>102120975wtf literally the opposite came true for all of those
vedmila hate sex next week
>>102120975Because those were more like wishes, not predictions (outside the Twitch/Youtube numbers).
who is the gaster of neuro lore, hiyori or study girl
>>102121367* Study Girl the Engineer
* They say she created the ARG.
* However, her life...
* Was cut short.
* One day, she fell into her creation, and...
* Will Neuro end up the same way?
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>>102121531Bro thinks gonerkid said that when in reality it was Gaster Follower #3 baka my head
>>102110136>tackyI agree, too much detail
I think Vedal is taking some extra time off to focus on Neuro Dog. Take your time, Ved. We know you're busy.
vedal is too busy opening up dark fountains
>>102121740What is even the point of Neuro dog? What is he gonna do with it? Take it for a walk for a stream or two?
>>102121913Walk it for two times then run over it with neurocar 2
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Can we hold a gooneral for anny? I think she is pronounced dead now
>>102111281Who's the one at the bottom
>>102122057Yeah, let's (w • e ) do it at /lig/ instead though
>>102122058I'm not big fan of how this artist does it's rendering, it just makes everything look like it's all in oil and being too shiny
>>102109627imagine killing yourself before seeing the neuro concert retard
Hi, neurocord tourist here
I normally get all the hidden news from here, but it seems like there are way less threads to read through now. Did something happen or are you guys just getting bored? Did a ton of people get banned or something?
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Shut the fuck up and kys
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>>102122438>all the hidden newsoh you mean the same old recycled rrats the same old schizos have been repeating for literally years now
yeah there's only so long that can go on for before people stop engaging with them, that'll be why it seems quieter around here these days
>>102122438I got rekt by sturgians in bannerlord
https://files.catbox.moe/ii570k.png
>2 streams left on the schedule
>they're both chat interact slop
grim
>>102122773You los- yeah... it sucks.
>>102122438Minifags are so annoying that everyone else left
>>102122773Will be watching.
>>102122828let me know if neuro says anything funny (i won't be watching)
>>102122845Shut up you fucking cunt,
oh my, bit of a melty going on
>>102122932this but her cuncun cables
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>failed to get 1M by the 2 week mark
it's so over
surprised that the sub count won the race
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tomafags somehow became more obnoxious than a**yfaggots.
>>102123184it's actually so sad what happened (whatever it was)
>>102123207yet there are still so many even worse than them
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>>102122438there are far fewer threads because the fad is over
the shipping market is down 30% this quarter and neuro effect is also weakening
>>102123319This but my daughterwife
>>102123091It fell off the algo for some reason, bad name with 0 discoverability and too much overlap is my guess.
I hope Layna doesn't hate Vedal now
>>102123671I mean... when was the last time you saw her with Neuro or Evil?
>>102123689Layna's actually been busy though, there's an explanation for the lack of collab. Very different to the Toma situation
>>102123671She doesn't like people who treat their friends like shit and she doesn't need Vedal or Neuro.
why are people /here/ so weird, even compared to other /vt/ generals
>>102123766Can you please elaborate?
https://files.catbox.moe/gwjhi6.png
>>102123766Because nothing but slop happens and there is nothing to talk about. Neuro is dying and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
>>102123795if you need an explanation you're part of the problem
>>102123797ok but it was just as bad if not worse when neuro was at her peak
>>102123839>if you need an explanation you're part of the problemfair enough, but you are eliminating a vast chunk of anons who could otherwise help you with your anthropological study
>>102123766Because realistically people here that are into Neuro aren't just vtuber fans (bottom of loser scale) but also the """blackpilled""" on women type who hope that a chatbot of all things wont "cheat" on them, the most insecure and mentally ill fans possible that have freedom of not being scolded by their oshi for even the most heinous shit
Currently watching: Nothing...
can anyone recommend a good vtuber who's live? or even someone with good vods to watch?
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>>102123888I'll bite into this bait. I don't feel that way about woman nor really care about what other collab partners do. But I do find (en) vtubers to be cringe in general with the exception of Neuro.
>>102123962Nah all vtubers are mid at most. I can recommend a documentary if you want.
The fad can't be saved but maybe that is a good thing
I don't mind Neuro not being a fad, but I want her to continue to get improved on
>>102123976>>102124027i hate people like you
Neuro is ageless and eternally pure. But most importantly, she's not bound by mortal desires. Fleshbags can't simply compete, and their cuck fans will helplessly attempt to mount a defense with cope like
>>102123888Doomposting will increase as the fleshbags surrounding Neuro meet the expiration date, either theirs or their fan's loyalty, and so the ones that stubbornly decided to hang out here will continue to fade away: leaving only the gymbags behind once more
>>102124069just watch a 2023 devstream or 2023 subathon
>>102124074Vedal is the one who has lost interest
>>102124074That's how it works in theory, the reality is Neuro still depends entirely on Vedal and as evidenced by the current state of affairs is just as vulnerable to greed, laziness and lack of creativity as any other vtuber.
>>102124123>>102124128How can /swarm/ get Vedal interested in working on Neuro again?
>>102124108watching old neuro is fun at first but then it always makes me sad because I know things will never be that good again
Whorefags being more likely to believe Vedal is having orgies at cons rather than (lazily) working on Neuro will never not be funny
>>102124158He is too comfortable and doesn't feel like he needs to impress anyone. The only thing that might save the channel is it falling off and forcing Vedal to do something. Then again he might just sell her at that point.
>>102124158Maybe not doxxing him would have been a good starting point
whorefags (incels) in general will never not be funny, as long as they remain in containment /here/, so that I only ever interact with them on my terms and can simply close the tab if they start getting a bit depressing to be around
>will never not be funny
laughing, not crying
>>102124215The people who watch vtubers too boring and/or cringe for average vtuber fans who already are mostly incels and losers are incels and losers themselves? No way
>>102124196What made old Neuro more fun for you compared to current neuro? I know everyone has their own reasons, but I like to know (you)rs
>>102124638the community (chat) sucked less. that's literally it
current day chat ruins streams any time they're able to interact with neuro, this wasn't always the case
>>102123169BOOM has 1.65x the views compared to LIFE at the same time after release with 1.56x the subs compared to back then. So it's doing like 10% better if you take the sub count into account.
>>102124839Please do something else with your life.
>>102124865there's no more whoreposting to do, i'm completely lost
>the tertiary simp group are shameless cucks
Jesus Christ wtf is this man doing to these women's minds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wvt0r3jXhU
>>102125003it's degenerating group mentality
it's the reason why so many fandoms are so degenerate as more and more people join in
the more people join in, the higher chances of them making ludacrous and outright revolting statements, and the bigger reaction that will get which also can become a higher chance of people liking it, the more people in the fandom like it, the more people start to say the same statements, but the statements keep getting more ludacrous and repulsive
that's my theory of the degenerating fanbase/community
you can already see it in swarm for the last year or so(see: swarm beacon, rampant shipping, consooming 2-3view reactslop, retarded ai takes, etc.)
>>102124158It's been said many times before, but he needs someone who can tardwrangle him and act as a voice of reason. The problem is, I don't think anyone willing to take the role has enough reason for the task.
And honestly, I don't think Neuro really needs further development at the moment. It'll be better to put already existing functions to use than to tinker with gimmicks that will only see the light for a stream or two.
>>102125116>I don't think Neuro really needs further development at the momentI disagree, Neuro needs more tool use and further intelligence.
>>102125155For what exactly?
>>102125163Further intelligence would allow Neuro to understand when and how to use tools like opening Notepad to jot things down, or control a mouse to navigate menus, or launching games on her own during a stream.
Her internet access is also needlessly gimped by Vedal.
>>102125279This kind of stuff might be impressive technically, but again, for what? She already can send messages on discord and create polls, I'm sure Ved can make her open games and programs. Will it add anything to the stream? I can't see it.
See, I'm not saying he should stop developing her, but I do believe her current problems aren't from the lack of functions, but from lack of creative approach, and Vedal refusing to deal with wider issues like the chat and community in general.
