Thread 102129160

Floating Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.

Nagi and Hestia are playing Apex. Peke is playing LoL. That's it for now so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

Image Source: https://x.com/steeeph333/status/1942943033810395243

VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya | https://www.youtube.com/@zentreya

Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussion

Previous Thread: >>102118728

I miss lewd waifu Mouse.

Amalee's gigantic fucking white girl ass

>>102129191
You beat me to it.
kek, You didn't even give me chance.

>>102129195
On my face

soon...

so no one here actually watches kson i guess, this is just the schizo shitposting thread?

>>102129231
yep have fun in your anti mouse hugbox

>>102129246
Antimouse thread, a righteous cause

>>102129246
Yes, who do you schizo about?

After reviewing Mouse's stream I'm not convinced she is /out/
She talked about her mom and mentioned her dad so whoever thought it was related to that is likely wrong.
If it was about Zen she wouldn't want to talk about it but she does.

>>102129246
this thread is for schizoposting and whining about whatever mouse does or does not do

Does anyone know if Katie is banging Fufu now? If yes, I'll retract any bad sentiment about Froot and whatever Froot said/did was 100% justified

>now consider who is watching you. i am. and i don't like it. fucking stop already. shut the fuck up. go the fuck away.
I call it the ballad of prude melty.

Real Moron hours, Hell Yeah

>>102129391
i was literally masturbating when i typed that. you're confusing "prude" with the word for "truth".

>>102129452
Lets be honest now most prudes are the biggest perverts around.
They just don't like other people being perverts.

>>102129452
>truth
Anon I'll say it here too, That was the cringiest thing that has been posted on this site in the last 2 years.

>>102129483
TRVKE

>>102129483
i know you're trolling but i will pretend you are instead retarded. i am not against discussing sex. i am against whining.
>>102129506
don't care. shut the fuck up. if you insist on whining then use a fucking trip so i can filter you. or better yet kill yourself.

being kuro in vshojo is like being an indonesian in nijisanji. your existence is disregarded.

>>102129246
in 2022 i accepted that vshojo box viewers are more niji aligned than holo aligned and thus will never like or watch kson
it is what it is

>>102129539
Anon you sounded like an anime protagonist in the cringiest anime ever.
you have to be over 18 to post here.

>>102129580
if being sick of reading your fucking whiney posts makes me an anime protagonist then call me goku

>>102129608
I'm not the only anon talking about it.

I never like Zen's insistence on trolling every single group game.

>>102129648
>the anon who called me a child doesn't know about public trips
get a load of this guy. would you like me to teach you how to use one you stupid bitch?

Isn't a 12+ hour stream abnormally long for Kson? I can't recall her ever streaming this long.

>>102129608
Anon you are nowhere near Dragon Ball levels.
You're one of those protagonists from a cheap shitty isekai about a neet who fantasies about being a hero to all prudes.

>>102129574
I think I'd watch her more if she did more EN unity collabs. She usually just hangs out with that one group of Japanese friends. Although she does group collabs with Nova every now and then recently. She hasn't done that much to make me attached to her as a member of the group.

>>102129687
Where did I imply I don't know about trips.
Why the fuck would I do that because you want it, get fucked.

>>102129691
She's in the fucking zone

>>102129608
You don't understand, I need Mouse to talk about that time she took a cumshot to her eye for the 20th time, and how she lusts after old ripped men, and how anal doesn't hurt if you do it right. She isn't entertaining unless she says something out of pocket and lewd every 20 seconds.

>>102129755
she tried doing that at the start, but she stopped when she got booted out in favor of nijiEN collabs

>>102129765
public trips. not trips. public trips. way to out yourself.

>>102129755
Kson is interesting to me because somehow the Novas managed to endear themselves to me in weeks more than she has in years. I legit struggle to have an impression of her for some reason, even including EN collabs.

>>102129780
Those things were all from way before 2022 and no one is asking for her to talk it all the time.

>>102129780
this but unironically. i like her content less now than i did years ago, and because of that i watch her less. if you think her changes were for the better that's cool for you too, but both of our opinions are internally valid.

>>102129855
i don't watch her either and i manage to not fucking whine about her in every thread.

>>102129824
it's because she's in her late career, so she caters more to the community already watching her than new blood

>>102129780
>out of pocket and lewd every 20 seconds
Even back then it was not like that anon.
Mouse had a personality beyond that she just didn't hold back on what she said.
Its why I still watch her because most of her is still there, we are just missing the things that first caught my eye.

>>102129246
It's early, so I watch streams and do work at the same time. It's a damn good stream though, she's having a lot of fun. Clenched out 2 kills under the time limit

>>102129871
Anon if you you are going to go all baby rage and batman of anons for talking about shit on an anonymous board you might want to not come here.

>>102129930
from now on every time you whine about mouse i am going to tell you to shut the fuck up. if you don't like it then don't whine or be courteous and use a trip like i suggested.

>>102129871
i dont normally complain about her but if you are actually going to show up and try to argue 'old mouse was bad actually' then i am absolutely going to pipe up about it

Kson is playing with her pussy on stream

>>102129794
I mean she could easily collab with henya more, she even apologized to henya for not collabing with her more during Henya's 3D debut. Michi's also very easy to reach out to, and it was Michi that arranged a collab during the stamp event. The fact of the matter is that Kson doesn't really like going out of her comfort zone that much and no longer feels like trying. Pretending Kson is some helpless victim who the group ignores is silly.

>>102129971
good news for you then, i am not making that argument. you can rest easy.

>>102129962
The difference is, it annoys you, it doesn't annoy me.
So if you want a war of pettiness I'll win.

>>102130031
i guarantee i am 500x more autistic than you could ever imagine. you will spend every thread for the rest of your life arguing with me. you will never get another chance to whine.

>>102130046
God you really do sound like a cringy anime character.

>>102130071
and you sound like a pussy bitch. gonna cry because she hasn't talked about cum today? fucking loser.

>>102130094
This is going to be fun

>>102129995
I didn't know shorts could still give you upskirts, jesas. Cute cat though

>>102130094
Its going to be especially funny when you start going off on other random anon, because plenty of other anons talk about lewd Mouse.

>>102130166
every mousewhiner should kill themselves.

>>102130001
I agree with most of this, but I feel like Henya is a bit harder to organize with. That or she keeps wanting to do an offcollab and hopes Henya relents some day lol

https://x.com/Vshojo/status/1943288919019376642

Fuck. I didn't see that coming

>>102130268
She's spiraling out of control

>>102130268
oof

>>102130268
Holy shit, termination soon

>>102130268
Its truly fucking over now

>>102130268
God dammit I knew this was Mouses fault

>>102130268
Out of everyone I didn't expect it to be Henya next

>>102129971
Yet you old faggots get pissy and offended when we pipe up after you fucks argue "new mouse is bad actually". If you little pathetic faggots get to whine and complain about new mouse all day then be prepared to be called an annoying faggot every time in response

I can't wait until Mouse gets a bunny girl outfit.

>>102130476
nta but I don't see people saying new Mouse is bad, they just miss old Mouse or parts of old Mouse.

>>102130491
Did she mention one in the pipeline?

>>102130520
You blind as fuck nigga

>>102130532
Yeah someone mentioned Henya's and she said she wants one now.

Who in Vshojo has 0 friends completely outside of streaming?

>>102130926
Haruka

>>102130950
wasn't she friends with ari before she was a streamer

>>102130966
Ari stopped talking to her and only came back after she found out Haruka is a popular streamer

I feel like Zen has no irl friends which makes me sad. It seems like Zen would be fun to hang out with.

>>102131028
that's a bit fucked up

>>102131260
Haruka is autistic so she wouldn't notice. Ari is the ultimate leech, she knows who to target and when to constantly be on the rise.

I feel like Henya has no irl friends which makes me sad. It seems like Henya wouldn't be fun to hang out with, but I'd still like to.

>>102131260
what's even more fucked up when Haruka went on hiatus Ari dropped her and started leeching from Zen

>>102131285
She has roomie-chan who no longer lives with her, and an old friend from highschool.

is there a vtuber who's unironically a good person

>>102131359
>Haruka goes on hiatus
>Ari isn't streaming with her
Genuinely what did you expect?

>>102130001
>Pretending Kson is some helpless victim who the group ignores
they did that in the past which shaped her current behavior
>and no longer feels like trying
hang yourself thirdie nigger

>>102131415
i know a couple but i would never tell you

>>102131415
Yes

>>102131415
Bubi has never done anything wrong.

>>102131415
Mouse

>>102131415
Yes, but not here

>>102131415
sonch

>>102131436
I know you're hyper defensive about anyone who criticizes Kson, but there really is a lot more she could be doing if she wanted the VShojo audience to care about her more. But she doesn't really care about doing that which is fine, but you can't just blame it on everyone else but her.

>>102131415
After Sinder drama it's been proven Silver is a good girl

if kson keeps doing 14 hour hitman streams i'm going to have to start watching her more

>>102131540
yeah she should wake up at 7 in the morning to find out she got thrown out of the collab she was supposed to be in
great idea

>>102131600
Jesus, you're as schizo as the keyfags were. Why do you have an eternal persecution complex? Do you think Michi would do that to Kson if Kson actually cared about collabing with her more?

>>102131646
she was in niji so probably

He technically isnt wrong

>>102131477
hot bitch

>>102131669
Kson is the kind of person who throws fellow members like Froot under the bus while doing zero research, asking zero questions to other members, or reading a single page of the document Froot released. Michi is a better person than that.

>>102131739
thank you for going mask off

>>102131758
>accuse other members of being bad with no evidence
>show an example of Kson being worse
>think it's a gotcha
Okay

>>102131808
i knew you were an anti from your first post so nothing you say really means anything

>>102131562
Editor being real cheeky

Fucking Matara

>>102131834
>anything critical of Kson makes you an anti
Alright

>>102131560
She is certainly a better judge of character than Mouse ever has been.

>>102131848
Anything critical of anyone (besides Mouse) makes you an anti.

>>102131848
you stink of nijizhangji

>>102131848
Anything critical of anyone (besides leavers) makes you an anti.

>>102131911
You're so brain rotten by tribalism that you actually care about where members came from. I've only ever watched VShojo and indies. What they do once they become a VShojo member determines how I feel about them.

>>102131974
when people actively choose to join the china pandering bully company that reflects poorly on them
when people prioritize collabs with members of the china pandering bully company over their own orgmates that also reflects poorly on them

I can imagine the person behind the screen laughing as they go "why so angry, I'm just critical of kson". Be less obvious
In other news, Michi retweeted the PC preorder date, July 14th. Pretty cool for any 4skins that wanna glam out

>>102131974
>You're so tribal
>I only care about Vshojo and indies
You are so deluded that you don't see your own tribalism.

Mouse ruined VShojo...

>>102132055
I'm not the one spazzing out about Michi being a Niji or Kson being from Holo. Until someone becomes an indie or VShojo they hardly exist to me. I don't support companies that own their vtuber's models.

>>102132038
Don't a lot of Holos do Billibilli streams now?

Gunrun did something
Some bitches noped the fuck out
Mouse stayed but she's devastated
Some other don't even know, and live in blissful ignorance

This entire argument is retarded
1. Yes Kson fucked up
2. However, Kson corrected and made up for her fuckup very fucking quickly.
Anyone still complaining about this event is retarded. If things were tense or had never recovered between the two of them I'd be critical, but they fucking did. Holding onto it in this day and age is way more fucking schizo

>>102132242
nothing she said was incorrect and she said nothing negative about froot

>>102132242
That guy tried to say Michi would snub Kson simply because she was a former Michi. All I did was show him that Kson has more of a track record of carelessly hurting other members without thinking.

>>102132309 (me)
Former Niji*

>>102132309
you would hate her no matter what she does
your kind is just like that

>>102132242
Stop responding to the bait, they want any interactions at all. Why is the argument retarded? Because that gets (you)s. Nobody would knowingly say shit like that if they watched streams and cared

>>102132391
You're chasing ghosts. I simply said there's more that Kson could do to collab with VShojo members and catch the interest of VShojo viewers. You were the one who tried to degrade other members simply because of their former workplace.

Why does Vshojo snub the members that have names that start with a K?

>>102132471
>anti narrative
>anti narrative
>hey you're an anti
>UMMMM GHOSTS UR CHASING GHOSTS
dumb bvtm faggot

>>102132566
Okay, you're a troll. I was getting baited the whole time. Well played.

>>102132601
post more anti narratives you learned from the bvtm discord, that's what we need in this thread

>>102132731
I refuse to believe you're a real Kson fan now.

>>102132755
what you believe about kson and her fans doesn't mean a whole lot to me considering you believe and parrot retarded anti narratives about her

I think we would all feel better if everyone in VShojo just posted feet pics

I think we would all feel better if everyone in VShojo just posted panty pics

YOOO OG vshojo broos, if you're here, this is a shot in the dark question. In the old days, IIRC, before Vshojo being a thing even, there was a collab between Mouse Mel and Silver with a VTuber named something milky (not the big cow one). She was kind of a green-haired, dark-skinned kind of model. Does anyone remember her or if she's still around?

I think we would all feel better if everyone in VShojo just showed hole.

>>102132838
Do you remember who streamed it? or the game?

>>102132786
You didn't listen to what I said at all. I'd say Kson's actually pretty good compared to many members considering she actually streams fairly regularly. I'd just love for her to collab more and do more cool stuff.

>>102132755
he's the guy who hates niji for being business partners with the people mainly responsible for an angry mob of schizos who harassed and threatened kson for a while

>>102132869
i don't remember the game, but my gut tells me it was DBD, i remember Mel and Silver streaming that

>>102132838
Wait I found them. vtmilky. https://x.com/vtmilky looks like they still stream

>>102132872
>The fact of the matter is that Kson doesn't really like going out of her comfort zone that much and no longer feels like trying.
>Kson is the kind of person who throws fellow members like Froot under the bus
you know i can scroll up and see the shit you wrote right?

>>102132957
HOLY, yep that her thank you man

>>102131911
I really dont know what you're angling for here. I'm quite sure that people who watched mysta and mika and nina escape nijisanji, hate nijisanji quite a bit more than people who watched coco and rushia get fired by hololive.

Kachou raided by Kaho, cute

>>102132957
>not followed by Mouse
She really did abandon everyone who helped her get to where she is.

>>102133113
I actually found them by looking through stream titles on Zen's channel actually, not Mouse's.

>>102132970
You were being a Michi anti so I gave a counterpoint that Kson certainly isn't perfect towards other members. And I think it's true that Kson could try a lot harder if she wanted. I think it's very fair that you're quick to believe people are antis in disguise, and it was very unfair what Kson went through for years due to Nijisisters and you did her a great service by defending her. But maybe try not being so hostile and judgemental towards other members if you don't want Kson's faults pointed out. She's certainly not perfect and has a lot of areas she could improve in. I want to be more invested in her and feel the desire to watch her, but I have a hard time doing that at the moment for some of the reasons I mentioned earlier.

>>102133113
Abandoning people is what Mouse does. She may put up a front of being kind and caring about others, but she quickly loses interest in others and prioritizes fresh clout.

>>102133113
remember kyrie_ai and YuikaiChan, I'm going on a nostalgic trip.... man, I miss the old days

>>102133200
you are hardly in disguise

I want some tasteful high quality sexy art of Mouse nude and non nude.

>>102133230
it’s the biggest whiplash and completely changed my opinion of her

>>102133243
I see there's no convincing you. I hope you're able to calm your neurosises about everyone being a Nijisister in disguise one day anon.

>>102133320
you can start by not parroting made up anti narratives

>>102133234
Gone from her life. Never to be acknowledged again.

>>102133234
Yuikai has god level cosplays "if you know what i means"

>>102133334
What part was made up? You're quick to judge other members over nothing, don't you feel bad for that? You sure don't seem to be. You might call me a Kson anti, but from my perspective you seem to be a VShojo anti.

>>102133234
>all the people in this picture are soon to be all gone from mouse life
sad to think about honestly.....

>>102133391
pretty much everything you've said about her is threadreader shit

>>102133538
Such as? You appear to be similar when it comes to Michi. I bet you didn't even watch them do the Roblox Buckshot roulette collab during the stamp rally.

I want to take a shit on mouse's face.

>>102133580
you're the one who keeps bringing up michi every single post

>>102133409
it's true of every single person in that picture

>>102133674
Because you're trashing on other members then act like we're being unreasonable for saying Kson has areas she could improve in.

It really brings into perspective just how terrible a person Mouse truly is.

>>102133712
and when the "area she could improve in" is based on a bvtmfag anti narrative that makes you an anti

How many of the world's problems could be solved by combining a tree, some rope, and IM?

>>102133740
Such as? To me you seem like a Nijisister for antiing Michi with zero research.

>>102133741
There would be peace in the middle east.

>>102133763
you're the one who made up that scenario about michi and i said "probably"

>>102133804
And I suspect you're a fake Kson fan because you would have seen what Michi was like when she collabed with Kson in that Roblox game. You're quick to assume the worst of other members with zero thought on your part. If you were actually a Kson fan you would give everyone an awful impression of her fans, you're quick to judge and anti everyone around her.

>>102133857
if you're a real michi fan that means her fans are bvtm faggots who believe made up stories about kson
not a good look

>>102133880
What was made up? You seem to be dodging that question?

>>102133890
the froot stuff, nigger
i thought that was obvious enough

>>102133906
What was made up about it?

>>102133915
all of it?

>>102133929
Examples?

>>102133939
the things you wrote

Member when this thread thought VShojo could pull Gura lmao

>>102133972
Now it looks like we are losing Mouse

>>102133989
That's a good thing.

>>102133234
That mouse model had such good tracking...

>>102133956
So you're saying Kson didn't make a Tweet that made it seem like she was admitting Froot actually cheated during the drama without reading the document or consulting other members. And she didn't make a second upset Tweet about management asking her to take it down because it was terrible PR and made the entire situation much worse?

How much of this thread is one guy on cooldown?

>>102134028
correct

>>102134014
It's the superior Mouse

>>102134030
All of it. Even your post. One guy, Six phones.

>>102134046
She only read the first few pages and made it look like Froot cheating was still a possibility. That seems very negligent on her part.

nooticing that the guy who was complaining about mouse vanished around the same time as the guy who is complaining about kson showed up

>>102134094
Froot did cheat. It's literally in the doc.

>>102134116
Now you're showing your true colors.

>>102134116
lol you didn't read

I FUCKING LOVE POISONING THE WELL OF DISCUSSION

>>102134094
>made it seem like she was admitting Froot actually cheated
>made it look like Froot cheating was still a possibility
nice goalposts moving there mahmoud

* Waddles in *
Alright shop is open
last chance to get your Zen merch before is gone for good
https://store.vshojo.com/
https://store.vshojo.com/
https://store.vshojo.com/

>>102134197
So you admit she hurt a fellow VShojo member and made things much worse by not bothering to really research anything though right?

oh my god shut the fuck up

>>102134116
And that's the mask off oof

>>102134212
>just realized that i am going to miss out on the zen keycap set, because i am a broke bitch

I guys r cringe
I'm off to see cunny

No Vshojo has ever done anything wrong ever and if you step out of line from that, you're an anti and you should remove yourself from the community and possibly end your life.

>>102134286
Yeah actually that sounds great

>>102134227
nope

damn this thread is depressing.

>>102134324
I accept your concession

>>102134359
You should've seen it back in 2022

>>102134407
I was here in 2022. This is worse.

This is all deflection from the fact that IM NEEDS TO BE PUBLICLY EXECUTED FOR HER CRIMES

>>102134359
I think the Froot doc drop was the most depressing time I've witnessed on /vt/. It really made me lose a lot of faith in humanity.

Why does the concerned Michi fan only have Henya images?

>OOC will never clip zen again, guys
>OOC dropped her long ago, guys
BTFO
https://x.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1943386677432516820

>>102134501
I like Henya's model more.

>>102134501
he's a lolicon

>>102134512
Begging people to learn when July 11th is

>>102134538
begging you to get a job

>>102134116
lmao retard

>>102134501
Michi fans don't claim that anti

>>102134512
His Zen coomer clips get good numbers. Plus he also clips indies like Mint and Saba as well.

>>102134538
Zen called him out for his behavior.
https://x.com/zentreya/status/1943350737221620092

>>102134654
no she didnt

>>102134654
>this tweet
>then he spams 8 zen clips
Oof

>>102134450
Yeah, this is legitimately worse then it was back then. Side-note, found this while digging through my old shit from back then.

>>102134654
>his behavior
This is almost certainly in reference to the news of Youtube going harder on clippers for "non transformative" videos, as well as a Filian clipper getting murked 2 days before.

>>102134721
holy shit I think that's one of my posts kek

>>102134727
Based, fuck em

>>102134787
but why

>>102134450
Pink cat and Vei posting was a lot of fun. VShojo was still completely whole and anons actually watched streams and hadn't become jaded on the hobby yet. Now many of the friendships don't feel real and we've all been exposed to the underbelly of the vtubing world. In the end it's all just business and merch cuts.

I've always rooted for Vshojo out of all the corpos, but I don't really see any way they pull out of this unless they hire a solid gold 2view or something and they take off. They were extremely lucky to sign Henya just before the first exodus, but there's nobody out there like that today. Maybe they should try to get Nyan to come back considering she fell off and Aethel can stream anymore.

Is Kson going for a 24 hour stream?

>>102135010
Sir please stay on topic

>>102135006
Nyan is happy, she will never return.

>>102135066
Oh sorry. *Ahem* VShojo is finished! Everything's over! Mouse bad! God do a hate watching streams. Better?

>>102135010
she would put it into the title if she was right?
i think she's just locked the fuck in

>>102135006
talents should already be aware if vshojo is going to cease activities soonish

>>102135010
one more mission if she doesn't fuck up

>>102135089
>Nyan is happy, she'll go back to the scenario that ruined her happiness

I hope you have a great day

Geega Amalee and Nigga Apex at 8pm ET tonight.

>>102135308
no wonder Nagi ended after the collab was over

I blame Gunrun.

>>102134955
Especially the business shit. It's buy this, sign up for that, buy the liquid cocaine with my png on it.
Good for them on making money but if I wanted ads I'll go on Youtube without an adblocker.

>>102135193
>it's China

I want to hear audio of Mouse jerking off just once in my life. then I can die happy.

>>102135450
she won!

https://x.com/yuni_paints/status/1943411309099250074
https://ko-fi.com/s/d65782578d
You can actually order a 3d print of this cyber mouse.

she can uninstall hitman now

I want to hear audio of Mouse being shot in the head just once in my life. then I can die happy.

>>102135616
Seems a bit strange that they are selling it before the artist has released the 3d files.

Nyan just said she's Nyatasha Nyanners from independent. The meme is spreading. She also talks about how nice it is to be independent, not be associated with a brand, and to have FULL freedom.
https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners/v/2508972019?sr=a&t=2018s

KSON PUSSY CUTE

>>102135844
aw yes, the freedom to lose 2/3rds of your audience is highly coveted

>>102135844
this sounds like cope also she's in mythic

>>102135925
Unironically yes. Some girls cant stand the heat of high viewership and the stress it brings. Low 4 view high 3 view is the Vtuber sweet spot. Enough to bring in some sponsors and do fun projects for the fans, but not enough to have all eyes on you micro analyzing everything you do

>>102136070
Nyan is weird case. During her peak, she was streaming to her alt on youtube in secret. Now that her viewership has plummeted she is trying all shorts of things to regain her audience like multi streaming to 3 platforms and shit

>>102136138
No. She has to be the bread winner now since Aethal's penis fell off.

>>102136004
Mouse really has changed.

>>102135844
>from independent.
is just former member's way of saying
>not getting fucked over by Mouse

>>102136348
I want to get fucked over by Mouse.
And under.
And sideways if possible.

>>102135925
Not everyone wants to be look up to, and be treated like a brand like Mouse does. Someone wants to stream as they do, this is like people who get mad at Kson

>>102136647
>treated like a brand like Mouse does
I've seen multiple anons say shit like this and I don't think Mouse does, she just wants to stream have fun and sing.

>>102135844
>Independent
But Mythic?

>>102136736
Her current contract with Bibinos and her pushing for events over streams says otherwise.

>>102136736
>I've seen multiple anons say shit like this and I don't think Mouse does
uh huh
sure

Should Gunrun let Geega run vshojo

>>102136891
No, I don't want mandatory GTARP collabs.

>>102135844
ah yes
Nyanners from Mythic Independent

Once you understand that there is nothing that Mouse can do to please this thread, everything gets easier.

>>102137010
Huh?

I find it funny how Arielle is available whenever Mouse needs a collab partner but has been stonewalling Zen. She is never beating the allegations.

>>102135844
>from independent
It sounds so fucking stupid. I guess that's one way to pretend you have a brand.

>>102137010
Shw could kill herself. Or die. That would make the thread very happy.

>>102137112
Spell check your posts for more credibility. Also seethe check.

Ok it’s over
https://x.com/paninivsj/status/1943430041398055007

Victory for the Fire Panini guy

They just hit the second VShojo tower

>>102137220
oh oof
This blows up the arguments that Mouse is not out because she went on the IRL with her.

>>102137220
>she was at Mouse's IRL, guys, she's not going anywhere
BTFO

>open applications
>VShojo fucking crumbles

>>102137220
Okay no seriously wtf is happening

Mouse is going to be /out/ isn't she?
Like this is what all this is leading up to.

>>102137220
So how many more people have to quit before you admit Mouse is the problem?

>>102137316
Mouse? Bruh, it's everyone at this point.

>>102137310
Oh yeah the org is crumbling or was sold to some money hungry conglomerate like Brave that is trashing everything.

>>102137220
I usually don't give a shit about managers or backend workers but Panini is actually one of the only staff members I cared about since she was pretty public facing, even helping with voicing Michi's lore video.

>>102137333
Anon Panini was on Mouse's stream the other day.

>>102137310
>mouse responds to panini leaving
>still not response to zen leaving

>both Maiko and Roxy no longer have VShojo on their profile
They are next

>>102137271
People should have known better then to assume an irl means people aren't out.

>>102137364
who?

>>102137364
Did they ever?

So are we going to become \ex-vsj+\ or \Mouse+\ when it all goes down?

>>102137393
Maiko did
I’m not sure about Roxy, but now is just “Ironmouse Mánager”

>>102137350
If it has been sold then I really hope Mouse is /out/ I don't want some profit driven corpo having control over what Mouse can do.

>>102137364
A complete and utter management wipe out.

>Multiple backend / supporters leaving
>Multiple members leaving
>MIAs, Long term sickness, lazy people.
It's actually just over for Vshojo EN, isnt it?

>>102137316
Either Mouse stays for everyone else's sake or she leaves and the org collapses. She's in a horrible position. Honestly I feel the worst for people like Henya. I only hope there is some stuff happening behind the scenes to help everyone after this shit show.

my rrat
It was Mouse pushing for more corporate business
Remember how all the members shilled for bbno?
Mouse pushed for it to happen which caused problems with Geega and Zen
Problem is only Mouse gets benefits like working with SEGA while other members get nothing

>>102137409
both will be made hopefully

@everyone sorry no stream today taking tonight off i will be back tomorrow i love you guys

>>102137473
Not even a discord stream.
Its over.

>>102137359
>>102137445

>>102137473
>No reason given not even a vague one just I'll be back tomorrow
Don't tell me something else is coming today too...

Just end it. It was a good run.

So the question is, was Panini leaving what stresses Mouse out and made her heartbroken or is more to come.

>>102137452
Thanks Zen.

>>102137510
If Mel cancels tonight's stream, I'm going to start to worry.

>>102137510
Good rip off the band-aid, and we can finally move on to what comes next.

>>102137310
>Rob of all people responds
So this confirms Mouse is tearing apart Vshojo for her own plans.

I just though Mouse is probably crying again today.
Mouse we love you, whatever is happening it will get better.

who knew that Vei, Nyan, Silver had the right idea and just left the ship early while they could

>>102137416
If Roxy is /out/ then Mouse is probably /out/ right?

>>102137546
You know how Mouse always refers to her team.
No vshojo but her team, maybe she's leaving and taking her team with her.

>>102137555
Who?

oof status?

At this point I think it is safe to assume the reason Mouse cannot talk about things yet is nda/related to Vshojo. It is looking likely that she won't say anything until either she leaves too or Vshojo ends entirely.

>>102137310
its over

>>102137570
Yes

Does anyone know if Roxy's profile did say vshojo before or not.

>>102137594
Baker make the next thread /oof+/

>>102137220
>>102137310
keke that anon got his wish

>>102137546
thats doesnt confirm anything of the sort, but keep going with your rrat

>>102137603
Bingo

We are in the end oof now.

What did Panini do tho?

>>102137603
>>102137641
>It is looking likely that she won't say anything until either she leaves too
Vei left over 2 years ago and she said she still can't talk about what happened at Vshojo
Unless entire Vshojo falls apart and there's nobody to hold claim for NDAs nobody will say anything

>>102137648
i wonder if a company goes under and no longer exists, do the NDAs remain intact?

Mouse is definitely leaving soon. She would have to be idiotic to stay. Also now Roxy cozying up to Henya is looking very different now if she is also leaving.

>>102137616
maiko and roxy never had vshojo on their profile

>>102137671
Legally yes but in practicality. No. Cant be sued for breach by a non-existent entity

>>102137671
chat gpt said
>Yes, an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) can still be enforceable even if the company that issued it has fallen apart

We should probably get a poll going on /ex-vsj/ or /mouse/ or both

It is obvious that the org is crumbling. But if it gonna be over just fucking announce it already, don't prolong this shit with members and staff leaving every 5 days, this is torture for the fans. If it is not going under then we need someone to publicly address all these things and do some fucking damage control.

>>102137648
>Unless entire Vshojo falls apart
Well buddy do I have good news for you

Gunrun is just trimming the fat, most of these staff members didn't do anything noteworthy

>>102137714
I vote for exvsj

>>102137714
/Silver+/

>>102137673
I really worry that Mouse might feel like she needs to stay. Also we've had a glimpse this year of what indie Mouse might look like and I'm not a fan at all. Say what you want about Vshojo but at least their collabs were always fun if growing increasingly rare.

I honestly wouldn't mind too much for it all to be over. Having half of everyone /in/ and /out/ is kind of weird. If everything crumbles and the NDAs no longer matter, maybe we can actually learn what happened behind the scenes. I just hope Henya can find someone to help her with merch and management stuff.

Gun cleaning house like

Daily reminder that MTD is gone.

>>102137699
Can, not necessarily will be. I'm assuming the edge cases are stuff like government contracts and the like.

Geega was right yet again. She has always been right.

>>102137714
/ex-vsj+/

>>102137777
>maybe we can actually learn what happened behind the scenes
but we know, it's all Mouse's fault

>>102137782
I didn't even register MTD as a loss. Panini on the other hand actually mattered.

>director of talent
and what direction was that?

Yeah, any hope to have a new member is gone now.

At this point, the JP division might be all that'll be left by the end of the year.
>Mel is in Japan now so might just transfer over to JP management.
>Michi and Kuro might also transfer over, no idea.
>Hime might just end the kayfabe and finally consolidate her vtuber stuff with her none vtuber stuff under Geex+.
>Mouse is going to be a wild card since she could legitimately do anything at this point.
>Ama literally just joined this year after waiting so long to finally get in. So big oof. Back to indy I suppose.
>Haruka, lmao
>Froot, roflmao

>>102137767
I don't care about collabs only Mouse

>>102137848
>>Hime might just end the kayfabe and finally consolidate her vtuber stuff with her none vtuber stuff under Geex+.
Hime has no idea what's going on
she will do her yearly stream in few months and will asky why is Vshojo gone

>>102137848
Ama can probably be a Geex+ poach too. Pink hair lady get on the phone.

>>102137848
this doesn't look grim to me at all, in fact it looks quite promising

I blame Meicha the ultimate leech.

the real question: if mouse leaves how are the schizos going to find a way to continue to blame it all on her?

FUCKING MATARA

Once again where the fuck is Gun in all of this?

>>102137848
Why won't JP also collapse?

Panini is nothing.
I’d fire her ass, too, after this shitshow of an audition taking so long.

Maiko and Roxy are what matters since they actually do something.

>>102137922
The roach really fucked everything up with her termination.

>>102137908
>all the resources get used on her becasue she's Vshojo's poster child
>which makes other members resent her and leave
>"checkmate haters, Mouse is innocent how will you hate her NOW huh"

Everything would have been fine

>>102137907
unitonically she did doomer about stuff a few months ago and suddenly switched up from wanting to join a group to now trying her best to be an indie after talking with geega

>>102137714
Mousefags go to /mouse/, everyone else that actually cared about their talent and the agency goes to /xvsj/

fuck Mata is going to really make a hag org isnt she?

>>102137974
Deme sucks. Bitch watches movies on stream and is a mean girl drama fag. Lazy bitch.
Grimmis okay.
Limes is an actual good pick.

>>102137739
I don't think ex threads ever survive. Is that ex-Holo thread still around?

>>102138005
everyone who just cares for the talent and doesnt give a fuck about tribalism go to /big/

>>102138037
>doesnt give a fuck about tribalism go to /big/
and then they make one post per hour

>>102138023
Why would exholo survive when hololive is still living? ex-vsj will live because there are a lot of fans here who still like each other.

Well I guess Holo and Niji really won in the end. Idols > Talent Freedom.

The JPs move on and do their own thing (Nova + kson) maybe add Melody since she is in Japan and is Co owner
Froot and Haruka are already retired
Hime has no clue what is happening and doesn't care
Mouse, Henya, Michi and Kuro move own as a small group of friends, maybe add Matara back to the group too.

It is obvious that something big happened behind the scenes, it is one thing for members to leave to be independent. But losing so many staff members and managers is weird

Someone just put this org out of it's misery, Jesus.

>>102138047
not really when there is streams

>>102137925
>check his twitter
>his last non-retweet tweet that wasn't a happy birthday or a joke reply to zen was last year
>it was about airpods

>>102138008
No offense meant, but Mata couldn’t manage her way out of a wet paper bag
If you think her dumb ass is successfully running a vtuber org, you’re crazy

>>102137925
He was at OffKai.

She had the last laugh in the end

>>102138102
Who?

>>102138056
>losing so many staff members and managers is weird
It's not, if you check their LinkedIn page, staff you never heard about come and go. Gunrun offers internship to new graduated students to give them experience, some stay on or two years more others move on to fill their resume.

>>102138088
eh i agree, she would be more of Melody with someone else she has banged being the actual ceo. [

>>102137643
Anyone?

>>102138037
Nah I'm not going to /big/. I don't really care to read about that Mint/Doki group.

>>102138131
google is free

I think the reality is unless you have a big company behind you there is only so much a company can do. Vshojo was never going to allow someone else to dictate anything so they have slowly bled out. Geex+ is a great example of the opposite now happening.

feel bad for the few plusses that loved vshojo

>>102138121
Who cares about secretaries and internships, We are talking about MTD and talent managers here

>>102138136
mint and doki have their general, honestly /big/ is what /lig/ used to be for vshojo three years ago

>>102137974
Grimmi and Limes are the same person and you cant convince me otherwise

>>102138149
So nothing you can actually point to just like MTD?

>>102138150
Yup the VC money ran out, so shows over. Vshojo may continue but I wonder who the new overlord is Brave? Gfuel lol?

Arielle is a leech what do you mean she only talked to Haruka after Haruka got big .

nyan watchin glue

>>102138163
So two people.

Was a good run bros...

one day vshojo was going to need to take a larger cut to keep the company running
none of the girls were interested in that so they didnt renegotiate. now they're cutting back on staff to compensate.
the company taking a smaller cut is a great way to attract talent but questionable as a long term strategy

>>102138173
brother all you have to do is looking on google and see she was the director of talent

>>102138037
/big/ getting Mouse would just turn it into the very thing these threads are, the thread culture there is totally different. Most likely the trolls make /mouse/ again and people try to take it back, /vsjp/ probably stays as is, Michi and Ama join /big/ with the girlypops

My rrat

Ari was joining Vshojo, but because of it's impending doom, she was annexed to Geex,
We're becoming a subsidiary

>>102138163
>We are talking about MTD
He didn't do shit. Unironically a good thing he was fired.

>>102137974
From 4views applying to accepting 2views to vshojo disbanding. Man what a shitshow of an audition.

>>102138202
>is real
>like actually watching irl horse racing
god i love this retard

Yeah, so either the organization is going through a very fundamental restructuring/realignment of what their business actually is, or they are in the process of going out of business/selling the company.

I really don't see any other explanation at this point, for multiple talents leaving and multiple notable behind the scenes people leaving within the span of a few months.

>>102138216
If Ari was joining I would have stopped watching anyways. A blatant leech like that should not be around vshojo.

>>102138213
/mouse/ being a containment thread would be sad but necessary

it's fuckin over

i feel the worst for the nova girls. they just started.

>>102138250
What is with pink girls and horse racing?

>>102138209
That’s job position. Good. Not what I asked tho.
What did she DO?

>>102137714
>/ex-vsj/
that's just /BIG/

Guys, if Gunrun was leaving it would explain a lot, Mouse would 100% be really upset about that.

>>102138286
its not about the racing at all

>>102138288
how about you kill yourself

Every EN can survive on their own, but Nova still needs to stay together.

>>102138213
I'm not going to /big/ I will go to /mouse/ though.

>>102138284
They shouldn't even be here in the first place. Investing in Japan AGAIN is a waste of fucking money.

crazy to think that all of this is happening because a blue hair wolf didn't get a Nendo 3 years ago

>>102138317
It’s a simple question. Surely she did SOMETHING you can point to right?

>>102138315
Ah, I get it. They are gambling addicts.

Remainder that Mouse said this week would be weird with a lot of spotty streams. Expect more to happen.

>>102138368
deserved

Company is going under, that's all there is to it.

I had enough. Shut EN down.

>>102138208
>the company taking a smaller cut is a great way to attract talent but questionable as a long term strategy
There was another small corpo that adopted a similar business model to Vshojo, Kawa Entertainment except with 2views and they ended up having to shut down their talent acquisition side. It's pretty much safe to say at this point that Vshojo's business model is unsustainable in the long-run which is why no other corp other than Kawa attempted to use that kind of strategy. Main reason Vshojo got as far as it did was solely because of them taking on large big name indies and ex-corpos

>>102137546
Literally who?

>>102138284
JP is completely separate with its own CEO

I just saw the news... it's actually over for vshojo isn't? some shit definitely went down internally where their employers and members didn't like at all, i know actually believe mouse might be next... also where the fuck is gunrun?

>>102138388
Kill yourself

>>102138368
That irrelevant WHO has nothing to do with that.

>>102138417
Part of the team Mouse has randomly starting forming for herself this year separate from Vshojo.

>>102138392
bloodborne isn't happening is it?

And just as we were able to leech more from bibinose. Tragic.

>>102138213
>the thread culture there
nigga we made all these threads, we made /lig/ and /big/

>Froot
>Haruka
>Hime
Why are they even still here? VShojo traded 3 active members for 3 streamers who don't stream.

imagine all the members begging Gamersupps to take them in now
Mouse will surely try to get her own flavor now

>>102138456
why are you bragging about being the /big/ schizo

>>102138465
No need. Gfuel is buying VShojo

SILVER FUCKING WON!

>>102138283
What would happen is /mouse becomes a containment thread and anybody who likes her sneaks it in other threads briefly.
At least Michi is prepped, for the most part. Maiko would probably continue to work for Kuro and Michi through some new contract, Ama I have no clue. Speaking of, he had a cute reply
https://x.com/catsgomao/status/1943431651196817856

>>102138448
I'm assuming probably no. Bloodbourne was supposed to start the 16th I think. Since Mouse has mentioned a lot of plans with people taking a week off in the middle of all of this is unlikely.

>>102138452
your bait thread didnt get enough (yous)s did it?

>>102138465
>begging
they literally take anyone

SILVER FUCKING ME!!!!!

If VShojo goes under, what happens to Henya?
Michi will probably get closer to the Girliepops/Bikini Bottoms, but this is all Henya really has.

>>102138331
They should absolutely be here. They are a sunshine in this grim times.

What shouldn't have been here was Vshojo giving Matara all this freedom to run the org down to the ground. They helped her and her friend Mint to start over. They setup conventions and booths and help her jumpstart her career and got nothing in return. And then this roach ungrateful bitch goes and tries to cut the only cut Vshojo takes from their talents by doing merch with 3rd parties

So much wasted resources and we now see the consequences. FUCK MATARA KAN

>>102138456
Doesn't matter for shit, /lig/ and /vsj+/ are different now. Divergent evolution

well at least maiko is still oh nononono

I don't think vshojo is over if it was they would just do it all at once, it makes more sense that its getting sold or Mouse is leaving.

>>102138522
>anyone
unless you matter at best you're getting referral code
only real big streamers get stuff like merch and their own flavors

>>102138536
She has Kson

>>102138536
Henya is in JP, she'll be fine unless Loutlout dies in a freak mastering accident.

The west has fallen

>>102138536
She was essentially an indie with extra downsides before

>>102138545
Remember when she cried and told Mouse that she saved her life by bringing her /in/?

>>102138546
having few phasenigs and /wvt/ trannies spamming and /here/ posting won't change /lig/ dna

>>102138553
Total Pink haired woman domination. Mouse and Connor sabotaged Vshojo so GEEX+ could buy them on the cheap

>>102138536
/vsjp/ will continue and she'll keep talking to her western friends. Loutlot and crew are practically a different company, so she and the rest of them are probably fine.

>>102138536
unless the jp side completely collapses too she is fine. and even if it did she has enough connections to find someone to help. geex+ certainly wouldn't mind adding her.

Hello, if there's Henya mods in here, remind her to turn off TTS, cheers

Dont worry anons we'll find out everything when a TTS autists messages Henya about it in 10 minutes.

This is fine. /vsjp/ is better thread anyway.

>>102138604
Those threads get nuked ten times as hard as here, you do not get it. I honestly envy you

I'm breaking my diet, I'm getting aburger, and a beer

>>102138600
And people still wonder why Mouse has trusting issues. All these backstabbing whores man

to be fair it's amazing Vshojo lasted as long as it did
remember it's a meme org that was created durring Covid when everybody was stuck inside
"company" that was based around women pretending to be anime girls and playing video games lasting 5 years is impressive

Whatever is going to happen can it just happen today please.

>>102138545
Hey just an fyi she gave money to vshojo when she did the orchid 8 merch

Thread burning down and dooming about Vshojo and talents. Ama just horse posting on main.

>>102138718
vshojo ain't going anywhere, it's a talent agency that doesn't need that much funds to operate

>>102138642
Then go there?

>>102138771
>that doesn't need that much funds to operate
given recent events it seems it also doesn't need much staff to operate

>>102138790
or telent

>>102138771
Maiko is the big manager that everyone likes
If he’s /out/ it’s joever for resl

>>102138802
>telent

Why is Stinky playing Sonic music?

>>102138820
don't make fun of Australians

>>102138790
Gunrun is japanning the company. tired of these socal fresh graduates that are good for nothing

>>102138847
Gotta go fast dayo

Lol the minecraft server is never coming back

Wasn't it just yesterday the people were posting fire panini?

>>102138847
Henya is the new sonic ambassador. Korone....

Ama live with Geega and Nagi

bake new thread retard

>>102138877
Bruh, their server box was probably sold off to pay for rent at this point.

>>102138882
It was the day your wish would come true, too bad your didn't post fire someone else anon. You missed your chance.

>>102138760
Can you calculate the damage she created by shittalking the official Vshojo merch WHILE SHE WAS STILL IN?

Isn't obvious that she brainwashed other members to try to switch to a her merch provider like GEEGA?

Did her friend Mint give anything back to Vshojo when they helped her with her debut and all the conventions to start over?

FUCK MATARA KAN

I guess vshojo is terminating contracts as they come up to renegotiations, which doesn't really makes much sense if it is this much over - just terminate it and send everyone home all at once.
I smell buyout or merger is coming, which is why redundancy has to be cut ahead of time. Geex or gfuel, dunno.

henya has broken her silence

>>102138960
fuck your cringe as fuck

>>102138904
GEEGA stil playing GTA lmaooo

I know you're reading this Mouse
I want to know
Was it worth it?
Was pushing your friends away and ruining Vshojo worth it?

>>102138995
The collab is at 8pm retard

>>102138974
No because Mouse's was in Aprilish

>>102139000
Yes

- the real and true ironmouse

>>102138974
VShojo being bought by Geex is probably best case scenario

>>102138988
Oh look, it's the retard who can't use your and you're

Any one of those celebrity billionaires shown an interest in vtubers lately? Maybe Vshojo is getting bought out.

>>102139015
>>102139015
>>102139015

>>102138978
>STILL hasn't said anything to zen

>>102139020
Honestly it'd be pretty hype. Like I don't dislike Zen and Geega, but I'd take Giri and Ari for them in a trade lol

>>102139017
not redundant, they are cutting bts staff, leavers left in protest to merger

>>102138978
Henya, Mel and Mouse are on the same side.

IM STILL STANDIN
YEAH YEAH YEAH