Previous: >>102178385

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>(ex)-niji getting amazed by hololive management service: part 73
https://youtu.be/xo0hSNByzzY

Koseki...

>From the producers of Golden 20
>Indie Avengers!
It is pretty amusing to see the same shitposts from 2-3 years ago get recycled with different names

so what did we learn in the last thread?

>>102185106
Those have absolutely nothing in common unless you’re implying the ex corpos will fall off as hard as nijiEN did.

>>102185106
This indie avengers hype really does feel like the old Luxiem/male vtubers hype, and it'll probably end the same way.

>Horse girl chuuba makes obvious joke petition to get added to the horse game
>Gets harassed over it by horse game fans
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxMcXRXWvVFkbye0ovxp_nc-eLpA1ErXe7

>>102185168
The share the same shitposters

>China has a history of betray their foreign business partners once they become successful.
>This has happened many times.
> Investing in China from a distance might be better than investing in the West because of cultural similarities, but going all in is very risky and will end up badly.
>Opening foreign branches is overall a mistake. They bring lower returns, raise costs, and hurt the growth of their JP talent in foreign markets.

>China has a history of betray their foreign business partners once they become successful.


That's an EN Avengers thing lol.

>>102185168
Ex-corpo is to 2025 what male vtubers were to 2022.

>>102185190
>>102185214
Absolutely delusional

>>102185200
based horse game fans

>>102185231
Luxiems were 5view once, Luxiems were going to kill HoloEN once, Luxiems were super funny and their chemistry was so incredible...once.

Guess where they are now

>>102185210
You're Chinese lol

the sexiest vtuber

>>102185200
That third paragraph makes me think she deserves even more. Completely up her own ass and needs to get knocked down a peg. Fucking literal who thinks her "trying to break the mold" matters.

>>102185205
once a dramanig always a dramanig

Surreal hearing Namies voice after all these years

>>102185263
the indie avengers are not a fad like the nijimales
the avengers are long term established streamers

>>102184915 (OP)
Recent Clip Numbers
>>101957686
>>101957702
>>101957717

>>102185263
Ok first of all
>Luxiems were super funny and their chemistry was so incredible...once
lmao

And second, the “indie avengers” with the exception of Saba have been around for a while with stable viewership, their audience isn’t gonna just up and suddenly dissapear like Luxiem’s which were riding off new car hype.

>>102185298
I do not like this drawing

>>102185044
BILPBOO

>>102185231
I was here in 2022. I remember the post about how male vtubers were the future, how EN needed to pivot to SEA and/or EN speaking Asians because of Luxiem's success, how Council were failures who ruined EN and opened the door for competitors, etc. This really does feel similar.

>>102185200
One of the key defining factors of crab bucket indies is that they have next to none sense of risk, they can and will get into the stupidest career-threatening drama that they can ever find

It doesn't help that their "friends" are probably leading them to do stupid shit with the hopes of stealing their audience

>>102185313
JACKBOX GAMES BABY

>>102184915 (OP)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>40,066: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>30,375: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>27,684: Saba (Indie)
>27,017: Chiroru (Indie)
>24,562: Korone (Hololive)
>22,066: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,279: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>21,017: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,456: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)
>19,614: Doppio (Nijisanji)
>19,465: Leos (Nijisanji)
>18,906: Ange (Nijisanji)
>18,702: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>16,900: Pekora (Hololive)
>16,498: Pekora (Hololive)
>15,516: IRyS (Hololive)
>15,461: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,460: Watame (Hololive)
>13,473: Vivi (Hololive)
>12,513: Arion (AKA Virtual)
>12,432: Nimi (Indie)
>10,137: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,054: Calliope (Hololive)

>>102185263
Why would you ever say this
Youre not a woman are you?

hololive has no answer for the indie avengers, the only thing that could stop them is internal issues

What will Saba crash out to?

>>102185313
years?

How come when Holofans numberfag, charts and spreadsheets get posted
But when nijikeks, phasefags, and liggers numberfag, it's always >trust me bro

>>102185214
nta but males were always assumed to be a controversial thing just by their nature of disrupting the cute girl experience. excorpos technically can still do most of the same stuff corpos do, not everything but a lot of it, without really a huge shift if they don't want to purposefully fuck themselves up.

imo the couple-years from now prediction/outlook actually might be that it's a net negative for all involved - the corpos are not as good without key talents and get more stagnant and boring, indies are not as good without the whole rest of the corpo's events and social network to be plugged into (see how kson decayed so fucking far). but it wouldn't be a complete collapse on either side, just neither will do as good as they would have been together.

>>102185360
JUL 2025 GOLD
>1) 103,545: Rai (nijisanji) important announcement collab [21]
>2) 127,309: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru quiz show [26]
>3) 38,815: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru survey [26]
>4) 48,246: Yubari Rei (indie) Debut stream [22]
>5) 39,528: Pekora (hololive) R.E.P.O. [31]
>6) 207,324: Nijisanji (nijisanji) MECHATU-A 1st 3DLive [41]
>7) 48,220: Pekora (hololive) NoePeko Tanabata [27]
>8) 60,006: Subaru (hololive) SubaKoro [23]
>9) 73,542: Hololive (hololive) holonatsu paradise [34]
>10) 63,121: Pekora (hololive) Important Announcement [25]
>11) 40,066: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [23]


> PER COMPANY
3x: nijisanji
7x: hololive
1x: indie

> PER STREAMER
3x: Subaru, Pekora
1x: Rai, Yubari Rei, Nijisanji, Hololive, Shiina

Bros, my memberships got stopped. Anyone else?

>>102185349
Hate marketing at work

>>102185390
for who

>>102184946
Nothing compared to OshiSpark's support team, though

>>102185317
Well 4 out of 5 are already 4views who pose absolutely no competition to HoloEN and if Saba catches a cold it's over for them

Maybe if Shachi joins, fingers crossed?

>>102185388
JUL 2025 SILVER
>1) 102,743: AZKi (hololive) 3D LIVE 7th Birthday
>2) 61,521: Saba (indie) 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS
>3) 36,801: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #6
>4) 45,619: Kagami (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>5) 39,259: Ex Albio (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>6) 99,759: Pekora (hololive) PekoMari w/ Vivi
>7) 47,236: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #7
>8) 57,442: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>9) 40,854: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>10) 41,691: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #8
>11) 30,375: Kanae (nijisanji) NijiKou2025


> PER COMPANY
2x: hololive
6x: nijisanji
3x: indie

> PER STREAMER
2x: Maimoto
1x: AZKi, Saba, Kagami, Ex Albio, Pekora, Tsukasa Tenkai, Kuzuha, Chiroru, Kanae

>>102185313
where are you hearing it?

>>102185338
Having a long career doesn't always mean the audience staying forever. Look at Ironmouse's decline over the past year. Plenty of examples with flesh streamers too.

>>102185384
Ksons core audience seems to have been pretty low compared to newer girls than again she also did immediately go into fleshtubing and other shit that people following would be turned off by

>>102185412
JUL 2025 BRONZE
>1) 82,156: Marine (hololive) Subaru collab
>2) 31,577: Leos (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>3) 34,900: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>4) 44,544: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>5) 35,352: Miko (hololive) prophecy
>6) 61,618: Rena (nijisanji) SMC Gumi 6th anniversary
>7) 38,176: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>8) 54,099: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>9) 40,223: Pekora (hololive) Steam summer sale: gifting games to holomem
>10) 39,403: Lamy (hololive) holonatsuParadise BIG3
>11) 27,684: Saba (indie) STATIC DREAD


> PER COMPANY
4x: hololive
5x: nijisanji
2x: indie

> PER STREAMER
1x: Marine, Leos, Chiroru, Shiina, Miko, Rena, Shiina, Kuzuha, Pekora, Lamy, Saba

>>102185347
The only thing you're feeling is that dildo stuck in your ass faganon.

>>102185444
JUL 2025 holoID
>1) 3,539: Zeta (Hitman 3)
>2) 3,835: Risu (DINKUM)
>3) 4,295: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>4) 4,188: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>5) 3,889: Kaela (Good Pizza, Great Pizza)
>6) 7,395: Kaela (PEAK)
>7) 8,519: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)
>8) 8,701: Risu (DINKUM) [2]
>9) 5,707: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>10) 6,850: Kaela (PEAK)
>11) 6,324: Kaela (PEAK)

> PER STREAMER
5x: Kaela
3x: Iofi
2x: Risu
1x: Zeta

>>102185369
They don’t need to. Nothing much indie avengers can do to actually threaten Holo / HoloEN as a whole

>>102185425
In person they’re talking about Sonic yaoi

Holopro = Indie Avengers
Hololive = Nimi, Dooby
Holostars = Doki, Mint

>>102185472
JUL 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,033: Hinano (VSPO) Zatsudan [21]
>2) 10,370: Koyori (hololive) Shadowverse WB [26]
>3) 10,093: Vivi (hololive) Minecraft [26]
>4) 11,476: Hinano (VSPO) Apex Legends w/ uruha, selly [22]
>5) 10,122: Vivi (hololive) Five Nights at Freddy's: Secret of the Mimic [31]
>6) 10,147: Lui (hololive) horserace betting [41]
>7) 10,855: AZKi (hololive) Minecraft [27]
>8) 10,063: Vivi (hololive) Minecraft [23]
>9) 10,142: Lui (hololive) Minecraft [34]
>10) 10,031: Towa (hololive) STREET FIGHTER 6 [25]
>11) 10,054: Calliope (hololive) Umamusume Pretty Derby [23]


> PER COMPANY
2x: VSPO
9x: hololive
0x: nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
3x: Vivi
2x: Hinano, Lui
1x: Koyori, AZKi, Towa, Calliope

>>102185369
>the only thing that could stop them is internal issues
I have just the person to call

>>102185449
>No argument
>Resorts to gradeschool insults
Typical.

>>102185401
For a bunch of chuubas.
Are they cracking down on ars memberships?

Also Namie may have fucked Kronii’s mum
>her ideal Sonic X Shadow date is they race across the world then fuck on the moon

considering the vast difference between certain indies who are weaker than the runts of EN and the strongest EN vtuber there will ever be, I do wonder who could be behind this forced unity angle

First Army? Time for a demotion?

>>102185500
JUL 2025 HIGHLANDER
>1) 103,545: Rai (nijisanji) important announcement collab
>2) 127,309: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru quiz show
>3) 36,801: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #6 [S]
>4) 48,246: Yubari Rei (indie) Debut stream
>5) 39,528: Pekora (hololive) R.E.P.O.
>6) 207,324: Nijisanji (nijisanji) MECHATU-A 1st 3DLive
>7) 47,236: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #7 [S]
>8) 57,442: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [S]
>9) 73,542: Hololive (hololive) holonatsu paradise opening
>10) 39,403: Lamy (hololive) holonatsuParadise BIG3 [B]
>11) 40,066: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025

> PER COMPANY
5x: nijisanji
4x: hololive
2x: indie

>>102185349
Most people wouldn't expect getting attacked over a joke petition

>>102185533
what happened to peko

>>102185431
I appreciate how at the very least kson has shown her ass a lot and she's also a huge footslut and shows off her feet all the time too.

>>102184915 (OP)
100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)

# of 100k streams last year: 58

Why is everyone even pretending that the first indie avengers collab was even that successful? Those numbers were pretty middling for a first time thing like that.

>>102185531
we know Dooby is a unityfag since 2021

>>102185550
the unbeatable Subaru RPG black hole

>>102185557
I take 0 people who use the term indie avengers seriously

Not a bad haul for Reine. 258 gift subs, I believe the bulk in yen

>>102185557
It’s mostly just funposts, anon

>>102185533
Peko is probably the second weakest first army in CCV now, and the one arguably below her barely streams and is a music juggernaut to make up for it.

>>102185557
Nobody even wants it it's completely forced bullshit I can't believe shitposters forced some stupid idea into existence again after holoEU

>>102185347
To me it reminds me of football, how back in 2019 there were chitchats about China/MLS/Arabia being the future of football because they hired the best players, super talents from Europe!

5 years later China doesn't have a league, the MLS is second level shit, and players prefer to join any Greek or Russian team rather than going to Arabia, because Europe is Europe

Namie came last in Champd up…

despite the arguing that happens here sometimes, it's really fun to cheer on our oshis together and watch their numbers grow over time!! ^_^ yipeee for everyone's recent successes in the chuuba space

>>102185557
>a first time thing like that
nigga (You) fell for the shitposting yourself to begin with, it's not some kind of never-before-seen thing, it's a collab between well established VTubers playing some random ass kusoge.

>>102185639
Literally nobody thought that everyone was just making fun of the poor players having to pretend they’re really passionate about and always loved UAE soccer

>>102185557
I think it’s mainly just because somebody posted this

>>102185507
>Arguing with a retard
Yeah keep riding that fagoo dick anon, while Biboo does yet another boring stream that will inevitably get botted to hell. Grim.

>>102185657
Wrong board

>>102185618
I think some of it is actual fans of the ex-Holos who really want to recreate the Hololive experience with their old favorites. Reminds of the ex-fans who jumped hard onto the lazusydia train back in 2021.

>>102185557
Did you not notice our usual schizos were mysteriously quiet all day? They don't actually care about the collab, they just want to shit on Advent and Biboo especially

>>102185595
It's touching 300 memgift now

>>102185147
What are they avenging?

>>102185704
Sana

>>102185704
Their innocence and time, abused by cover

>>102185649
Inb4 youre stalking some random chick

Did Nerissa and Raora go to Indonesia? Moona had lunch with them

Is the sabadooby collab tomorrow?

>>102185691
>were mysteriously quiet all day
where have you been? selenfag was samefagging with biboo vs. nimi of all people earlier today

>>102185550

mainstream games will make big numbers only first stream.
example is the her first wukong stream got 40k ccv and the last one got 12k

>>102185747
Roughly 15 hours from now

>>102185747
yes

>>102185687
The old Hololive experience almost killed them and it's the reason they stopped working there

>>102185349
sometimes you're just doing you own thing, then suddenly you're involved in a debacle because your antis invented one for you, like that Uma Musume joke petition.

don't make a reason out of it. if someone hates you, they'll do anything to cancel you, even if it means making shit up.

>>102185704
HoloCN

>>102185774
what old Hololive experience are you thinking?

https://x.com/SoapyApparently/status/1943461693121556753
Is this true?

>>102185349
>indies
that's not an indie, not anymore at least, she's in V-Dere

I missed it, but what did everyone think of Risu guesting for All for One?
Another wasted opportunity for her is my bet

>>102185774
>The old Hololive experience almost killed them
eh?

>>102185657
Shut the fuck up retard

>>102185745
Wouldn't it make more sense that Moona went to Japan?

>>102185595
wait wtf, what's happening,

>>102185774
And yet the EN who by far suffered the most under Cover is still there

>>102185798
The grooming is working

>>102185774
Is that why they streamed the most during that time? Gura must have been completely suicidal during the early 20s if she was willing to still stream so much back then

>>102185550
She just won Gold on the 5th and would have won it at least two more times if it wasn't because Niji apparently browses VStats all fucking day

>>102185813
>>102185595
Most of it is literally just one fucking guy

>>102185798
depends on the vtuber

>>102185798
Sounds like a fat groomed whore

>>102185774
Reading comprehension, anon. He's talking about fans, not chuubas.

>>102185595
dang, she has a serious whale who spent ￥177,465 in SCs and 270 gift memberships

>>102185214
At least ex-corpo vtubers are girls. Male vtubers are just obnoxious to the point that it’s hard not to hate them. You can ignore the ex-corpo shit but if you were into Nijisanji or Hololive, both of these companies refused to let their fans not be aware of male vtubers. Their constant pushing of them nearly killed HoloEN and NijiEN is pretty much killed their female talents’ fanbases and now the whole branch is dead.

>Gigi amassed close to 50 plushies of various sizes and types now
How is she going to bring all of those back to the US or is she dumping them on Biboo / Cover office / other EN members in JP? That's more than enough for customs to suspect that she is trying to sell them

>>102185691
Can we all be honest here for a moment? We know there are no real pebbles in this thread, most of us just larp as pebbles for fun, just like we used to larp as saplings. Pebbles are all posting in their own thread.

>>102185798
kinda, some people see their oshi more like a little sister or a daugther than a girlfriend

>>102185842

>>102185831
By 2021 Gura was already the second Myth with the least stream hours only behind Ina who wasn't even a full time streamer

>>102185842
wow

>>102185842
Why does Reine have a Japanese whale that doesn’t even know English?

The old Hololive experience died the moment EN homos were announced, from there it was all downhill.

>>102185774
If anything, "the old Holo experience" allowed the so called "indie avengers" to take the most breaks. I wouldn't be surprised if in another few months, one or some of them will be lamenting how much work an indie has to put their efforts into like Sakuna did.

>>102185895
Nothing will ever compare to the first 2 years of EN but that doesn't mean what we have today isn't good too

Saba recline
>199k
>70k
>60k
>40k
>30k
>20k
Kek too fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCnqrlw1sNo
I'm really looking forward to this, Nerissa should just go full reviewbrah

>>102185858
Let's be real, Dokibird in particular is barely better than most males. It's also funny to see this thread memoryhole that one of these girls was one of the biggest homo pushers in EN, who continued it even after it stopped being popular.

>>102185870
I see FWMC as...actresses, or movie stars, who do their job of making me happy and entertained.

I ain't meeting them ever so let's just enjoy the content that they make

>>102185811
Well, they had hotpot, which is traditionally an indonesian thing

>>102185533
Lmao death stranding 2 flop bigly

>>102185934
But if you do that, you render my {they're not going to fuck you} trump card useless

>>102185533
Peko really needs to stop playing that boring woke slop already

>>102185861
and CC gives her a giant horse plushie on top of that, so evil

>>102185946
death stranding schizo, do you hate death stranding because it has Peko in it or because you hate Kojima?
I think it's the latter since Kojima's antis are schizoer than Peko's antis

>>102185877
This will repeat again, anyone who has followed this girl through her various channels knows the pattern at this point.

>>102185925
Come on man, hating Amelia is like hating a puppy with three legs.

>>102185987
I'm not a peko anti but kojima objectively makes slop and he's an overrated hack

>>102185975
>woke slop
I usually hear when games are woke, but I haven't really heard much of anything about DS2. What happened? Did it go woke or was the first one already woke?

>>102185934
>Actresses and movie stars often lie on their way to tame and end up selling out after becoming successful enough
Kek, couldn't have said it better anon

>>102185999
She has true friends this time in form of Nimi and Dooby. I have faith 3rd time will be the charm (well, 4th but who cares)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ15mowtvZ0&t=12358s
"doki and mint"
tick tock sabafags

>>102186018
The only person that has ever lied to you was your mother when she told you you weren't a miserable failure

>>102185999
Nah, you can tell she's ina really good headspace now. She's made peace with herself, and with her virtual self who finally looks like how she wants to. It's kind of like transitioning. She's in the right body and mind now

>>102185941
>which is traditionally an indonesian thing
its a korean thing

>>102186025
Those true friends were in EN for two more years when she stopped streaming.

Only Dooby will regret it. Nimi and Saba already got what they came for.

>>102186054
You mean she is going to chop off her tits and take testosterone?

>>102186025
Yeah that's true. She was infamously not friends with Ame and Fauna, so it's great to see them interact for the first time ever!

>>102185910
I say this as someone who has watched Hololive since Gen 2-Gamers in mid 2018 before EN was even a concept: It might be controversial but I like the current HoloEN. As far as the graduations, only Fauna hurt since she was the only one who ever streamed among the girls who graduated. And I think Justice, GG, CC and Roara specifically, have been nice additions. Sure, ERB was a noticeable misfit, but it’s not like she’s ever around to muck things up. She’s easy to ignore.

>>102186010
It's made by Kojima, male feminist cuck faggot who thinks globalism is good or whatever this isn't /pol/ so I won't elaborate too much

>>102186083
Nimi is so powerful she can cure lifelong insecurities and bad life choices

>>102185864
Saying this when Pebbles were just liveposting the horse girl game is a weird take

>>102185747
I hate Ame, now this bitch is trying to be nice only because she has no choice. You disgusting newfags have no idea what it was like to hear "Ame is the most creative vtuber and she can do no wrong" every day for years. One of the issues was that this bitch's horrible nature was concealed under a layers of hololive social credits (but she helps Kiara!! but she helps the homos!! but she does a charity stream!! but she speaks against management!!, etc), making it very hard to criticize her.
But to be honest, fuck the Myth girls in general. The most difficult question in existence is probably, "Who is worse at ruining nice things, Mori, Ame, or Kiara?".

>>102186086
Your opinions are so wrong for this thread. If you're not going to indulge the psyop, you're just wasting people's time.

>>102186104
She didn't cure Kronii...

>>102185691
they're quiet because meido was stepping on their throats during the collab. they were waiting years for this moment and he denied them their big payoff shitting spree.

>>102185987
Both because they're both overrated flop

>>102186045
I'm not a ruffian so that isn't true

>>102186042
Don't project your mental illness on me, holotard. You're the only retards that have meltdowns over them.

>>102186117
Oh my goodness the jannies brought a Globalfag straight from Early 2022

>>102186075
If Dooby ever had any regrets, they are all gone after virtual vacation.

>>102186091
I'll take your word for it but having never played any of his games, it's hard to imagine the guy who designed Quiet is a feminist. I mean I only even know about her because feminists weren't happy about her!

>>102185925
I don’t care for male enabling vtubers as much as the next fan, but a girl will always be more forgivable than some clout-chasing faggot looking for an easy fuck.

>>102186086
I think the current HoloEN is fine but how much graduations hurt has nothing to do with how much people stream. Suisei and Marine barely stream but it would definitely hurt if they graduated. Same for any girl who used to stream a lot but ends up not streaming much right before she graduates - that could be anyone in the future.

>Saba's viewership in a downward spiral after each stream, losing momentum already
>Nimi, Dooby, Mint and Doki collab could only peak at 100K views total on Nimi's channel, many of her solo streams did much better
Yeah, I'm not falling for the indie avengers hype.

>>102186073
>>102186083
I meant, they were just 3 girls among 10+ other girls back then. They were close, but not enough. Now that they only have each other and want to prove themselves, naturally their bonds would tighten

>>102186104
Saba has "new thing smell" going on just like every other times she's made a new channel. It will end like it always does. Not a single one of the graduated Holos has managed to change their ways for the better yet, I doubt she of all people will be the first.

>the possibility of saba being in one of doki's big homo collabs like the wrestling event is >0%

>>102186194
I think Nimi is better than Fauna but Fauna made my dick hard so I dunno

How come exHoloJPs don’t support each other as much as exHoloENs do?

>>102186162
I'm not a holofag and you're also wrong about chumbuds. You can go and look at /ggg/ to see the chumbuds melting down over a sheer mention (and getting banned for it KWAB)

>>102186194
The entirety of HoloEN is getting worse.

>>102186167
They're unthawing cavemen to try and repopulate an apocalyptic waste..

>>102186208
The second Saba does homo collabs is the second I'm okay with girls doing homo collabs. Simple as.

>>102186252
KEK LMAO

>>102186086
ENReco is more or less the only time EN of the past year has called back to the old EN or the pre-HoloX JP. EN needs a box game to let girls work their magic of creating something special out of the utterly mundane
Talent loss in EN is one thing, but the biggest shift has been how the girls interact with each other

>>102186187
It sucks as a fan to see anyone graduate, even the girls you don’t care for or the ones who stopped streaming. On the bright side seeing management squirm for their incompetence and years of aggressively pushing homos have consequences is a nice consolation, at least. Maybe that’s just cope, though.

>>102186208
I look forward to the excuses for why it won't or how anons are suddenly fine with homos.

>>102186229
Japs are individualistic while westerners are collectivists.

Bah all overrated. We all know that the best Vtuber is CookieSwirlC with over 21 Million subs. Holoshit and PedoSaba, can't match her awesome power.

>>102186229
Because ex-HoloJPs barely had any interactions with each other when in Holo and they're in the job to make MONEY.

Nimi, Dooby, Saba, Namie, they want to stream in peace, play what they couldn't play, sing what they couldn't see. Sakuna wants MONEY.

>>102186297
lol, you're seriously trying to claim that Saba and Nimi aren't out for money?

>>102186332
where is the monthly merch drops
why are super chats still not on

Basically Saba is gonna collab with males and I’m all for it

>>102186297
Wasn't Aqushio a thing?
The active ex-JPs weren't really close with each other though.

>>102186208
In all seriousness I don't think Saba will participate in those big fuck off collabs because those are often not the type of content that she likes to make

>>102186272
This the main thing I’m missing desu. Absolutely no branch unity, it’s all just little groups

So who has the biggest boobs in hololive?

Saba will start a new company.

>>102186404
Noel?

what is more likely to happen is doki will tailor her events to be female only

>Saba is a small indie now
>Homos collab with small indies and not Holos
Ughhhh will Saba collab with a HomoEn? Is that in the future for us Avenger bros!?

>>102186402
Aren’t they all doing a concert together?

>>102186419
...pfff, nah

>>102186419
Absolute idolfication of western Vtubing AND total homo death? How would that be bad?

>>102186419
What took her so long?

>not even hiding that you're just going down your list of bait topics

No jailbirds set up a flowerstand project for nerissa for the world tour? Even as guests for the world tour kroniis and brats managed to do it. Nene not having one is a bit more understandable

>>102186402
The problem is still the lack of big event organizers in EN. Nowadays it's basically just Mori who can organize a full branch collab. And once in a while you have people organize those big birthday streams which everyone joins which is nice, although I wish they weren't all run by Reya.
>>102186427
I think he means streaming events

>>102186189
To be very frank. It was always meant to be a quick cashgrab for these people. One these woman loses their youth, vatality and therefore value, no one will view them anymore because they aren't even in a group or corp. The money they earn can at least fund their retirement.

>>102186419
I could see that since Doki is a massive numberfag.

>>102186427
So just management mandate stuff is ok? Nah you know what people mean, just events in general where people can join and have fun and not just the same groups over and over again

>>102186419
Then how is she going to get boosted for FPS games from now on?

>>102186459
Any pics?

IT ALL COMES
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN

>>102186464
I rather reya than fucking nothing

>>102186402
Easy to do it when you're 9 niggas arguably on similar timezones, harder when it's 16 divided between CET, EST, JST, PT, etc etc

>>102186459
It's home field advantage for Bae and by extension Promise

>>102186459
are the girls actually at sydney or is it just kayfabe?

>>102186471
Ironic since this thread is pushing for ex-Holos to do this and think it's great.

>>102186493
She is slowly going into territory where Biboo can unironically mog her every other stream

>>102186493
What went wrong, chat?

>>102186427
>n-not that kind of unity!

>>102186507
All the Americans graduated, whats the cope? I thought the majority of the ones staying basically live in Japan

>>102186525
Biboo can already pretty easily beat some of those VOD views, but only because her streams are way longer.

>>102186507
No one here other than the delusional in peak EU hours has ever thought debuting EU talents was a good idea for EN. Timezones were always fucked even in the Myth + CouncilRyS days because Kiara moved back and Fauna's bedtime is 9 PM
They made it work for those rare special events like Halloween or Easter so that we could have lasting memories. Advent Collab #21 or the latest FotM 4 man collab game can't replace what we used to have

>>102186493
That’s it? 2 more weeks and Beebs mogs her easily

>>102186493
If she has all this freedom now, why is it just indie horror again? Where's Muse Dash and that shit?

>>102186553
And because she plays FOTM stuff instead of kusoge slop

>>102186538
When vtubeing fails, holo will be the last to go

>>102186488
On twitter since everyone's communities already posted a picture of it. Jailbirds really not helping their poor status

>>102186560
>What we used to have
You're sugarcoating the past or only watched the late 2021 Minecraft era.

>>102186493
Took 4+ yrs but Ive finally won. She turning irrelevant

>>102186630
Hololive made her sexier

>>102186511
seems so even tho I'm pretty sure the concert is pre-recorded the mc's will probably be live, I think it's a waste of time to fly them out there but whatever

>>102186525
any day now

>>102186208
if saba does it then i'm ok with it and all past hatred is absolved

>>102186493
Now post Nimi's and others, u fag.

With the fall of Gura/Saba did he win after all? A m-m-male is dominating Vtubing? Guess woman can’t beat the cock after all

>>102186687
But you’ll die

>>102186703
Literal who. Dude is so fucking niche.

>>102186488
haven't seen nerissa or nene stands posted yet

Uh oh melty

>>102186553
>easily

>queen pedo bitch finally reclined
>Biboo is all bots
>kobo is a has been
>Shion is dead
>Su is Aururans onahole
>Laplus hangs out with Jap ecelebs you hate and brings them to the studio to tag the wall
Lolifags you fucking lost

>Saba's bleeding viewership like water
I guess, in the end, Saba was just a false prophet and couldn't dethrone Miko as the queen of vtuber

>thread slow with the only posts being recycled bait
I'm going night night. Wake me up when mr paradise's shill stream for that shitty FPS game starts

>>102186764
But Edgie just made his triumphant return!

>>102186763
>>102186760
1 view Troon melty kek

https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1943921566414516491
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1943921566414516491

>>102186755
>Conveniently avoiding her latest VOD with double the views of Saba's.

>>102186679
Damn

>>102186755
She needs to stream 24 hours with 10 different raids and bots just to beat her

Thought they didn’t need Holo but all of them reclining hard lol.
>Kson
Sub 1k shitter
>mel
No one remembers her lol
>aqua
Reclines
>Chloe
3k shitter now
>Dooby
lol 3k shitter now too
>fauna
Took a while but she reclining hard
>saba
Literally already lost her debut buff 1 week in KEK

>>102186802

even as a thread shitter this level of thread shitting is to blatant for my taste, feels like bots are just dropping posts on cooldown

>>102186807
This is getting embarrassing homo Troon

>>102186208
yes, like 0.0000000000000000000000000001%
that's how you know the vtuber is nearly flawless; people have to resort to making shit up to be angry at and talk negatively about them

>>102186807
Based, even Jurard mogs Saba with horse girl game KEK!

>>102186837
I would say it's a higher chance than .000000001

>>102186807
>cherry pick one VOD out of 50
>easily

>>102186737
What's the usual process to set one of these up anyway? Are there florists who specialize in these?

man the indie avenges mindbroke this place
expect more pain, when saba finally joins in its over they will be the biggest ''gen'' in all of vtubing

>>102186755
>>102186807
nigga everyone can tell this is literally just you samefagging and setting up the shitposting on biboo so you can keep this retardation up. here's I'll do it for you
>ONLY 2 VODS THAT BEAT SABA'S LOWEST ONE KOSEKI MOGGED
and then you'll keep the replies going with some more retarded bait about saba, and then answer back with retarded bait about biboo. everyone can tell that you're talking to yourself, look around you retard, the thread is fucking dead except for your samefagging

>>102186737
how the fuck does ollie have 1 but not nerissa

>>102186807
Her latest vod got 175k playing fotm game what kind drugs are you taking subhuman faggot ?

>>102186883
Indie avengers will be begging for holo collabs 6 months from now after declining hard but all there will be is Dubai to collab with indie shitters like always

>>102186906
Ollie has a dedicated fanbase.

SOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZIrrU38liA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZIrrU38liA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZIrrU38liA

>>102186906
Jailbirds too busy posting on twitter

>>102186918
>will be begging for homo collabs 6 months from now
fixed

>>102186906
xitterfans

>phasehours
>biboo vs saba

grim

>>102186737
Aussie Jailbirds exists but they are homobeggars

>>102186918
they can collab with anyone they want they will never homo collab

>>102186927
More shill streams Yay

>>102186874
A good chunk of florists do this and super easy to set up since most have templates where you can pick and choose flowers and materials. Those stands probably ran like $300-$500 each so not an expensive fan project

>>102186737
Nerissa is part of the world tour for the US, CA and SK audience. Not for the Australian or SEA audience

>>102186422
Saba is an indie a small girl but she's bigger than PhaseConnect

>>102186874
>Are there florists who specialize in these?
yes. they mostly do this in funerals

I Won
>Dodgers Collab
>EN Concert
>World Tour (with 7 concerts)
>Justice 3D
>HoloSummer
>Sushi Collab in Taiwan
>Homostar Account Segregation
>Game Collabs
>Tons of Merch
>Saba Streams
>Nimi Streams
>EN5 Soon

>>102186927
I am very excited to see how fat gigi's hands are. This is going to be great

>>102186943
>Dooby
collab with Homos in Holo
>Doki and Mint
Literally took NijiEn male cock
>Fauna
Literally was in Caspurr’s dms

lol what is this cope?

>>102186419
>>102186482
Simplest answer would be to host both kinds of events but keep them separate. Wouldn't be hard to do

https://x.com/nerissa_en/status/1943924276001915205
https://x.com/nerissa_en/status/1943924276001915205
Retards all BTFO

>>102186659
>I think it's a waste of time to fly them out there but whatever
its not. its better to be onsite in case of tech difficulties

>>102186977
Well where are the fan project recruitments for those flower stands.

>>102187022
god i hate the world tour

nekkos.... your flower stand....

>>102187022
>she's here
HELLO NERISSA SHOW TITS PLEASE

>>102187044
why?

>>102187022
>all non-oomfcord
>>102186940
>oomfcord
I'm nooticing

>>102187022
Thanks, mane-chan. Nice picture

quickly guys new angle now

>>102187044
Nerissa wasn't ever going to stream more without the world tour.

>>102186679
>>102186815
That members stream peaked at 9.6k ccv, at least that was the highest anyone caught.
It was pretty insane

>>102187065
NO. RISSA, ASS PLEASE

so no nene chii stand?

>>102187067
Because you.. are my world...

>>102187101
have to wait and see if she posts anything on twitter herself

>>102186927
Be funny if this somehow ends up being the EN5 announcement stream

btw what the ticket pricing for the world tour thing. If the girls are not performing live and its all pre recorded isnt this a scam?

>>102187022
>dark quill
HEY THAT'S ONE OF /OPE/ GUYS. He's also very active on twitter and very critical on BloodRaven kek

>>102186927
Awww no biboo dammit!!!!! Why is she busy for this one. Welp GG and Bae are there imma watch them torture CC and mori. Hope ina and raora kiss each other

>>102187022
Where are the twitter lesbians I thought they love and support rissa

>>102187088
Is Mouthwashing in 2025 that big of a debuff?

>>102186995
She has relatively dainty hands judging from her Haachama off colab

>>102187071
Proof he's from oomfcord?

What the fuck is an oomfcord???!

>>102187246
apparently a discord where Maddie's clique resides

>>102187022
>sleepy corgi
isn't that the femhooman cosplayer?

>>102187246
The people in nerissa's CRK guild

>>102187223
You can check his twitter

>>102186943
Wait until they collab with their rm account like they did with doki.

>>102187022
IRichtocrats with the save

>>102187022
It would be funny if you screenshot and shit on those retards too.

>>102187022
lol
Hi Rissa

>>102187327
Shouldn't they be buying her limited edition merch?

>>102187288
What is this image even supposed to show?

>>102187067
lost streams
no stream of the concert ever at the end once all the cons are done

literally a waste for 99% of fans

>>102187327
How much could a bouquet of flowers cost that jailbirds couldn't afford it?

>>102187368
Its about the homobeggar guy
>>102186940

>>102187408
doesn't help that all but one of the stops are in a third world country in the middle of nowhere

>>102187022
Thanks to this I was able to find Nene's flower stand

>>102187408
Why don't they stream them, do they not like money?

>>102187205
I don't see why it wouldn't still be buff it's a popular game that gura never played so people would still want to see her reactions to it

>>102187418
Yeah but where's the proof he's in the oomfcord? I thought oomfcord guy was someone called neah?

>>102187205
It wasn't really all that much of a buff back when it was the FoTM, there's also no real zinger moments in the game either

It's not fair, how could she be hiding huge tits this whole time?

>holo vs holo over flower stands

>>102187453
It's all the same people, just SEAfags mostly. Almost all homobeggars too. They congregate together on twitter and in discord

>>102185557
keep mint and doki out of your avengers crap, try saba and namie to replace them and that would be something

SmashCon update everything HoloTCG is gone completely and they basically said if you don’t show up on opening tomorrow that shit will be gone. Played one game with the AZKi deck and murdering your opponent with 200 damage from a stage 2 AZKi feels so good

>>102187486
>namie
She was at Smashcon actually. She had a panel iirc

>>102187347
think last time an IRyS project had excess, they just sent an sc

>>102187426
forgot to link >>102187045
>>102187101

>>102187484
It's as organic as biboo vs anything.

>>102187487
Shit costs double to get in my country, will wait till next years con for Bushiroads con. Hopefully they release Pekoras pack in english by then.

>>102187487
I had 3 locations near my location that were supposed to be stocking the card game, 1 was just sold out and the other 2 hadn't even received their shipment yet

>>102187416
The IRyS stand cost 900 aud not including art

>>102187022
any familiar names from Nerissa twitter circle?

>>102187338
>>102187472
Wrong Thread Liggcucks

>>102187347
paying $300 USD for a $130 set of merch is really lame

>>102187485
Sounds like you're just lumping everyone you don't like as oomfcord. This person doesn't even follow maddie on twitter nor does she follow him. But I don't really care about convincing you otherwise so whatever.

>>102187426
MAN ToT. The vanila guy is flying business class to meet see her sing.
https://x.com/Vanilla_Inazuma/status/1943381111494590512

>>102187593
yeah me :)

>>102187614
he vanila guy is flying business class to see her sing.
>>102187530 I was searching X for her stand

ollie...

>>102187664
Cute zombie

>>102187664
Silly little goober! There there

>>102187664
She's so real for this, I almost felt alive again

>>102187614
This guy is so rich. I'm pretty sure he frequently flies from Canada to Japan, like weekend trips type flying.

>>102187600
Don't attack your teamates

>>102187616
which one?

>>102187723
>mint front and center
As it should be

>>102187614
That's business class? The fuck kind of business class lets you lie down in a little room? In the US business class just means slightly bigger seats lol

>>102187778
International flights on US airlines, like United, let you lay down in a personal cove in business

>>102187664
>enjoy my collab tomorrow

>>102187694
i felt a twinge in my heart and soul for a bit then i remembered it was ollie then it all went away

>>102187800
This and mori's stand proves her core audience doesnt give a fuck whatever we think here.

Why liggers seething all the time?

>>102187723
>colonials and few native americans together colorized

>>102187723
>Mint, Doki
>Teamates
And who decided that?

>>102187834
They lost the culture war

>>102187834
idk sometimes i feel its not liggers but people skinwalking as liggers to do the holo vs exholo thing

>>102187778
Have you never flown business on an international flight

>>102187834
>>102187860
>>102187866
ESL

>>102187872
I love you too Liggerino

>>102187165
A scam would be if instead of a holo Finana came out

P*bb**

>>102187871
No, I've always flown economy since I'll be watching movies or asleep most of the time. I haven't flown international in years though, maybe planes have upgraded a lot since I last flew

>>102187416
Mori one was 500

Vshojo (hololive killer) downfall should be study. Same with /lig/ in the future, they act frienzeeee right now until money is involve and then they will backstab each other.

>>102187845
Her fellow team mates? Keep up anon, they just collabed today, did you just wake up?

>>102187912
gahdamn that would be funny ash

>>102187872
Ligcuck

>>102187956

>>102187918
Pubbic?

Is there an extension for 4chanX, or do I need to figure out a dumb script?

>>102187845
We only care about SNOT. Please larp better.

>>102187956

>>102188020
They're the new SNOT, though?

>>102187664
man if only she'd stop being a whore

>>102187996
Violentmonkey?

>>102187942
It's Holoindie now, old man
But why are you pushing your homocollabers (Mint and Doki) so hard? it's disgusting

>>102188063
where do you get that script mine is like 2 years out of date

>>102188083
>holoindie
nigga half of them were never holo and the rest are not holo anymore

>>102188020
>We
Yeah good job Rajesh, here's your gift card

>>102188083
>trying to attach the "holo" name to girls who left the company by choice and have no desire to go back
this is actual cope, like the non-meme kind

>>102187942
fify monkey

>>102188100
Nigga try reading the whole post next time
I don't count Doki and the other whore in Holoindie

>>102188120
Yagoo's true vision right here

>>102188120
ERB really feels like some indie in holo these days

she just streamed on twitch for like 5 hours with some weird-ass avatar playing with people i've neveer seen or heard of doing some RP shit, and no one here or on towa talked about it

genuinely completely separated

>>102188116
>Seethe because of the "holo" name
You sound lik those trannies who cries when someone calls them by their deadname, I think I'll keep using it

>>102187593
Not a single one

>>102188157
dogshit hag hire

>>102188157
>genuinely completely separated
and thats a good thing
now if shitwhori would only follow her lead and fuck off too

>>102188173 (me)
like*

It's always cute to see newfags who don't understand blank slate

guys why did they stop posting on the holostarsen account? was that just an excuse to fire the twitter fujo

>>102188192
I mean her viewership is still rock bottom and she doesn't really do 2-person collabs anymore so she's pretty secluded too

>>102188157
Someone talked about it quickly to show her ccv (2k or something like that)

>>102188037
>>102188104
Should I remind you about what Ame has done?
>the "don't wanna be seen as Gura's sidekick" thing that stunted Myth's growth
>the "walking bank" thing that left a bad taste in my mouth
>still loyal to Cover and Kiara
>her last project was pro-homo
>has told chumbuds to fuck off more than once
>has called Gura a bitch
just off the top of my head

Can you image someone being an unironic Gura fan and still supporting Ame?
Yes, by "we" I meant "we"

I didn't know Jill's name changed to fackingmonkey-chan already

>>102188221
shes ruining the advent collabs

>>102188157
She doesn't exist unless I somehow catch one of her karaokes live while no one else is on and I have nothing else to do, I've watched two or maybe three the entire year she's been a Holo, only good stream I remember was her birthday VR.

>>102188235
Kekaroo

>>102188216
Either they're looking for a new CM, or they're about to make a big announcement soon

>>102188245
kys please. This schizo fucker is always here

>>102188245
Advent collabs were doomed even if she wasn't there, the gen has nothing in common, nerissa will ruin any video game they attempt, and FWMC just scream over everything because they're terrified of dead air or something

I think the only "good" advent collab was that japan one that was a zatsu

>>102188098
From the site I guess. I never updated anything. It just updates itself.

>>102188285
>the site
The site...?

>>102188273
ever think that maybe it's more than one person?

>>102187593
Nah, you'll only see them at the concerts in Singapore and Kuala Lumpur

>>102188186
hey, most hag hires are amazing, don't phrase it like that

>>102188234
>Shit on Ame to defend Doki and Mint
Evertime with these fuckers

>>102187956
It was a nice little live but its a shame that they couldn't get Idol outfits and its only for the main tour.

>>102188299
nta but you should be using 4chanxt

>>102188326
what i wouldn't do if i got the chance to flood her womb and she deliberately hides her diddies by wearing a sarashi

>>102188326
Lui,mio,korone,okayu

>>102188157
You wants to keep her YouTube channel music oriented.

>>102188395
Okayu is still a cake

>>102188157
She wants to keep her YouTube channel music oriented.

>>102188395
Ogayu isn't a hag YET and you're missing Azki

Well IRyS take as long as CC to sell out her merch?

>>102188443
Well you learn English?

They lowered the price of IryS merch.
It was 140€ earlier

>>102188443
Surely not right? crats are rich

>>102188326
sorry yeah i love hags, but holy shit en dropped the ball

>>102188443
Honestly she might take longer. It's way more expensive and there's more sets left to sell. Just hope she doesn't fail to sell out completely like Nerissa. But I don't think IRyS will let it get that far, she's more likely to step in to do something.

>>102188488
doesn't matter when its the tariffs and shipping thats the problem

>>102188488
no change for USD. still $130

>>102188157
she made her intentions crystal clear from the getgo so nobody is really surprised or ragging on her for doing what everyone thought she'd do. this was the girl who was talking for paragraphs worth of texts in the chats of homos daily, sometimes loitering for hours.

the question is why let her in then if she never wanted to really do anything Holo-like. 'wasted slot' is thrown around a lot haphazardly but this is the clearest case of it in EN for sure. I dunno if Holo as a whole since she's kind of more comparable to Ollie maybe, but at least EN for sure.

>>102188439
you serious ogayu isnt?

>>102188488
it's just 5€, it's not even enough for a doner

>>102188488
Why does it cost more in € when € worth more than $?

>>102188530
she isn't yet, Foobs though is

>>102188534
I still remember when they were 5€...

looks like the girls need to go back to gachi pandering if they want to sell out their merch again but they probably thought they were too good for that
gachikoi and unicorns will always pay up, no matter the cost

>>102188550
that's with tax on top of it

>>102188534
Doners havent been €5,- anymore for a long time buddy

>>102188525
It's a shame because justice is such an awesome gen outside of her

She also doesn't really add to group collabs and justice was a 4-girl gen already so having such a dead slot feels bad (and sucks since cc/gg/raora are all awesome)

>>102188513
>>102188514
>>102188550
I'm fucking retarded they didn't lowered the price
>>102188534
It's 10-12€ now...

wanna bet that brats scalped and hoarded the tickets for this concert too?

>>102188590
nah, one of my local imbiss still has it for 5€ but it's not the size of a fucking kid's arm

>>102188645
Definitely not, those people were so shocked and terrified that everyone turned against them

>>102188645
The tickets aren't even sold out completely

>>102188632
At some spots i can still get a durun doner 8,50 or a doner bread for 9. But i remember the good old days in 2017 when you'd buy a durum for 4 bucks or a calzone for 9 bucks

>>102188632
ayo where the fuck do you live if a doner costs that much, my area is still under 10

IRyS merch update:
521 limited sets left

I remember the days where you could get a curry wurst or bratwurst for 2 bucks

>>102188690
heck even the crispy duck was under 10 before now it's around 12 to 18, if my local vietkong could just poach ducks near the river lakes and use them instead, maybe they could get the prices down

>>102188690
>>102188707
All cheap doner closed where I live (France) now it's 10€
You two are German to call it a "Döner"? In my country it's kebab or Greek (for faggot who live in Paris)

>>102188733
Nice, halfway there

>>102188733
This much??

>>102188793
She had 1400 initial stock on the hololive shop

>>102188785
I'm not German, I live in the Netherlands but on a drivable/cyclable distance 10km from the German border. It's "Doner Kebab" technically but everybody just says doner

>>102188645
after the tarring and feathering they got last time I wouldn't think it'd be publicly said outside of the absolute closest tightest of circlejerks. bae basically saying "I get you were trying to do it in good faith but don't" should preclude it from being a thing again but who knows.

>>102188826
Oh true you're right. I kinda stopped caring when 24 hours passed

did irys merch sold out?

candidates for graduation next year
>kiara
>ina
>nerissa
>cc
>raora
>erb

>>102188826
holy retard

JWU
what were the avengers numbers

>>102188690
The place near my uni versity sells it for 4.50 idk where tf u guys are from . It much cheaper here

>>102188923
>next year
>doesn't realize what's coming after the concert

>>102188923
Advent and Justice too early to graduate.
Kiara and Ina strong candidates with Kiara being the strongest. Ina has the whole ami ami stuff which is a big deal for cover.

>>102188934
Did you think it was 1900 or 900?

>musicdex required account to use playlist now
I hate making account for anything

Noticing a surprising amount of Nerissa FWU ans Jailborb plushies

>>102188923
actual candidates
>kiara
>mori
>ina
>bae
>kronii
>irys
>shiori
>nerissa
>fuwawa
>bijou
>ceci
>gigi
>erb
>raora

>>102188733
FailRyS.

>>102188938
it makes sense for them to have a lower price if they're near a university and just portion it a bit smaller, i'm at least where there's a lot of pubs and they make it so big that you can't even fit it in your mouth

>>102188998
Go to bed mococo

>>102188968
if you have to ask this question, you know why your post was retarded

>>102188923
we know the poster is a ligger because CC is on there

>>102188998
Whaet about...

It's over?

>>102188282
Hey, I liked the Apex collab. Some funny stuff like referring to ammo as lime or watermelon color, and Fuwawa failing to even shoot down a straight hallway. The irony is not lost on me that Whoreo was out during that time

>>102189148
they're taking a nap rn

>>102189148
Sadly, no. Schizo still here
>>102189157

>>102189145
Funny how Saba gets doomposted when that is the average performance of a top tier JP.

>>102189195
It is rather interesting why Sabaposters always sound like nijikeks

>>102188586
Everyone has a limit, even ultra simps don't have unlimited money.

>>102189145

>>102189148
i blame you

>>102187022
I don't know why people even respond to the retards, Rissa has Korean Jailbirds, OL Japanese cake fembirds, leagues of hot cosplayer fembirds, bunches who were at BD, anyone who tries to say she isn't loved pretty much outs themselves when you trace it back to Advent's debut, where she got doxxed heavily by sisters, and not even 8 months post debut people were trying to get her shapely booty fired. They fear the Jailbird power, try to infiltrate us with posers, but they cannot stop us. They fear the fat fucks.

>>102188645
They won't do it on a big semi public discord with a bunch of lurkers anymore. They'll do it with a small circle of people they trust.

>>102189226
The last jailbird somehow made it into the thread

>>102189217

>>102189209
>Saba anti
>brown
KEK

There were a few complaints here in Sydney that they didn't bring enough merch, shit sold out like 8 hours before the concert

>5 min break
grim

>>102189391
i've been booked for a scheduled maintenance work right now, kinda hard to post right now, don't worry i miss you too

>>102189385
Is it the same merch for the entire tour? Or is there Sydney specific merch?

>>102188733
oh jeez this is who cratz were calling the merch queen?

>oh fuck
>oh jeez
>oh shit
every time

>>102189432
Didn't seem like there was anything sydney specific

It's over?

>Australian hours
>concert in Sydney
>shitposters went to shitpost IRL and thread is now calm
Australians are the worse

>>102189634
I still say it, and I will forever say it, I cannot see this birb as sexy, she has too much little sister energy.

>>102189672
there's a reason why moot hates them. also all the GMT +8 shitposting comes from them.

Flower stand ranking is Mori had a full size standee, Ollie had a figure, Kronii had 2 itabags everyone else is a regular one

>>102189672
I can multitask

>>102189769
Were you the guy numberfagging behind me in line

>>102189769
then post more pictures faggot

>>102189769
What are the other cosplays?

>>102188968
she had 100 on gj. that means 1900 for holoshop from before they put a cap

>>102189769
Use your time wisely and just enjoy things then. The more time you post joyful pics and less toxic sludge, the change of shagging a cute cosplayer goes up. Maintain the positive aura, and booty shall come to you.

>>102186459
Nene has one in AUS tho

>>102189899
That's not even close to how it works. There's no set ratio

Unless Nijis will pull one from the sleeve today, their NijiKoshien streams are getting mogged by a talking duck.
Here is the funny thing: days where Ohayama doesn't get engined to 10k+ end up with Nijis underperforming across the table and also in the engine not "leaking" into Holo streams.

Stealing
Update
hololive STAGE World Tour '25 ~Synchronize!~ Australia

Current seats remaining
VIP: 0
Premium: 30
A Reserve: 0

>>102189974
The first floor is completely packed out here, can't see the smaller top floor from here

>>102189965

>>89559067

>>102186464
Reya is way better at projects than whatever the fuck they come up by themselves.

>>102189968
Also, on the NijiEN side, it looks like the only ones that got the strong "gaussian" engine were .... Air and Scarle?
The rest either got the old "King's engine" or got raided by one of them.

JP0
Started posting their holonatsu design sheets
https://x.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1943958520715530748

>>102190049
Maybe it's just me, but I get the impression they're calming down with the engine before a big event/stream on the JP side
or I'm just retarded

>>102190038
I dunno man, the sockpuppet Christmas theater, the spelling bee, the subsequent rock paper scissor before JP did their rock paper scissors events, the Tea vs. Coffee debate, things have been pretty good. BD hyped me so hard last year, thought we were back in black, but I still believe in EN despite how things may have occurred.

>>102186402
>>102186464
You say that but when there are EN events barely anyone cares about them, the viewership is always mediocre.
Western fans don't give a fuck about box unity, in fact most anons outright state that it gets in the way of the 48th "oshi playing muh ebin /v/slop" stream

>>102190038
Reya events are slop

>>102190072
>I get the impression they're calming down with the engine before a big event/stream on the JP side
Only if you mean today because they went ham with it on Ohayama two days ago.
It seems like, like with Jurard, that they stacked another batch on top of the usual gaussian one she gets.
I think they're testing to see the optimal way to stack those in order to make it look legit

>Virtual Vacation sold more than a Hololive world tour
It's over, isn't it?

>>102190175
Shes going to set the booth on fire

>>102190097
Unironically, the GAY earlier was closer to old HoloEN vibe than modern HoloEN

>>102190145
Explain further why they are?

>>102190175
Grim.

>>102190154
>I think they're testing to see the optimal way to stack those in order to make it look legit
What a bunch of piece of shit kek

>>102190197
Its generally been soulless semi scripted roleplaying thats quickly forgotten. Self inserting herself when shes a background character who should not be seen or heard. Hearing a bit about her you also get the weird anti turned orbiter bit where she was seething at holos success.

>>102190210
Thats a man

>>102190252
>Self inserting herself when shes a background character who should not be seen or heard
Yeah i understood why you found it slop. Have you made any game ever?

>>102185946
I like how the mod is an obvious noufagi watch this post disappear too
Anything against their leech whore pekora will get erased
deleted=true

>>102190268
In comparison to what an obs gameshow? Nobody is here for the reya show, we're here to support holos. Management could learn this same lesson.

>>102190300
Its alright anon your oshi will pay attention and work closely with you one day too.

>>102190262
chubby girls exist chud

>>102190328
>no argument
You could bother to explain what you like about it but maybe those are just lies too

>>102189968
Holo gold secured

https://youtu.be/nojbJYMELYc

>>102190370
>ENTER... the GOAT buffgame

>>102190333
That's just kson

>>102190413
Every asian with glasses is kson

>>102190405
It was only a buff because the mangaka just died and Pekora leeched off his fresh corpse.

why was saba's buff period so short compared to nimi's

MYTH!...and Kiara
Council!...and Kronii
Advent!...and Shiori
Justice!...and ERB
Indie Avengers!....and Doki

why there's always one tumor to ruin everything?

>>102190434
No drama for tourists to latch onto

>>102190418
Every slightly fat but not too fat Asian chick with glasses yes

>>102190401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ABjcIyR6Q

>>102190434
>"le first ex-holo" buff (dooby doesn't count since she never streams)
>hyper-prepped her debut months in advance
>spamming buff games

Farmed a lot of tourists with this. Now Saba also hyper-prepped her debut but simply put everyone already knows her, there's no tourists for her to farm anymore.

Fuwabaubau

>>102190333
And unfortunately some philistines don't appreciate em, because whoo boy thats a prime fembird. Would. Several times.

>>102190434
They both sold a lot of merch. You worry about your side of the garden.

>>102190512
not the question

>>102190333
nta but i'd fucking tap that and get her fatter with my baby mayo

>>102190482
buff games like mid game LA noire, sims 2, and deal or no deal for the wii

>>102190518
IRyS sold out her limited yet?

>>102190528
No idea, haven't checked.
Do you have any input regarding the actual question asked or do I just have to assume you're deflecting

Damn Delta Force that BGM is a bit too much

>>102190588

>>102190553
>ex-holos enjoying life streaming games they want to play and having fun collabing while selling out their merch
>holos stuck shilling Delta Force and Amazon because the corpo needs its cut
Yeah whatever

>>102190434
Nimi had a regular “live streaming watching” audience to move to her new channel, people that formed an habit watching her streams could easily move from previous to next channel without missing a lot.
Gura didn’t have that with emphasis on “regular”

>>102190622
>135
Its 150

>>102188733
I...I don't think this is gonna sell out. Also I just remembered her EP released yesterday and she only posted one tweet about it, she should have released an MV for one of the new songs or at least an EP digest video after her anniversary stream

Damn Gorosan you were already ballin

>>102190608
Again, what does this have to do with the question?
Like, seriously, is there anything you have to add regarding the difference between Nimi and Saba and why their buff periods were so different?
Idk why the fuck corps even matter in this discussion since the two vtubers being talked about here are fucking INDIES
both of them

So why Vshojo is dying and the new Phase girls flopped?

>>102190608
don't know bout you but getting sponsored by Amazon is kinda a big deal

>individual merch sales crashing
>SCs trending down
>card game sales through the roof
Cover must be over the moon. Holo members are going to have to comply with management's attempts to save the homos if they want to preserve their income.

>>102190676
They were always going to fail and no amount of botting will help them

>>102190670
Stop being disingenuous, we all know the real reason you're JAQing off about Saba.

>>102190695
For the corpo, sure.

>>102190720
>JAQing
Are you from reddit or something?

>>102190608
>And Phase whores shilling a boring Chink game

>>102190438
When Mori exists why our resort to Kiara?

>>102190742
don't know which 3rd world you're from but the talents themselves get paid for it as well, any indie would love to get something like that too

>>102190760
>entire company bought
GRIM

>Kiara will be doing a panko collab during her vacation in Italy next week
It just doesn't end with her, how many more times is she gonna bring bad people into the holo sphere

>>102190783
I like Panko

>>102190438
/#/!...and (You)

>>102190783
how is panko exactly bad?

>>102190783
Proof?

>>102190783
Kiara is like a romanized barbarian

>>102190772
Ah yes, the fabled 2%, that must be so lucrative for the talents.

>>102190720
The reason I'm bringing this up is because she's been on a steep decline in the week or two she's been streaming.
20k is already well below her average in her previous persona and if trends continue would look even worse
Meanwhile Nimi only reached the 10k mark after like six months of a steady "decline" if you can even call it that.

Anyway, that's the reason why I'm bringing them up.
They're ostensibly of the same background, so what individual difference can bring about such a drastic incongruity? It's not like Saba is actively debuffing herself from what i've seen

>>102190852
wrong company retard

>>102190612
yeah the irony is gura forced her audience to just not care much to tune in daily and not consider it a big deal so now that she's actually consistent, it's kind of a pearls before swine situation.

although really I don't think it's that - imo her time slot is the drag. it's too early for western US and only barely early evening for east coast which is still gonna be too early for a lot of people who work regular hours.

>>102190855
No one cares about this narrative you're spinning, especially when her likes still outpace every other streamer in the world showing that she's culled badly. Now why don't you go do something constructive and compare how long it took Gura to sell multiples of Irys's stock

rrat: Gura's timeslot is a part of her non-compete with Cover to avoid her overlapping HoloEN streams.

>>102190878
>>102190612
You could also just acknowledge that Saba has been playing absolute dog shit games since her debut, it's been 80% horror slop no one cares about.

>JAQing

We love Kiara

>>102190889
>likes cope
>cull cope
her channel isn't JP anymore though faggot

>>102190855
gura's normal audience was like 15-20k range from what little we saw of her in the last couple years. usually it was hard to tell however because half the time it was some kind of special return stream or whatever which inflated the audience expecting/hoping her to actually talk in detail about what the fuck's been up with her channel (and of course she never really-really did).

>>102190889
What fucking narrative?
Do you think I'm fucking concern trolling when I 'm just asking what Saba and Nimi did differently?

>>102190855
1. 20k is not far below the average she was getting in her final years (sans grad buff)
2. Nimi was boosted far beyond what she'd normally get due to drama buff and managed to drag it out due to holo graduations and dying cats

>>102190905
>responsible for Mint in the holo sphere
>responsible for Nyanners in the holo sphere
>almost responsible for Veibae in the holo sphere (not for a lack of trying on her own part, it was Vei who pulled out)
I might have even forgotten some.

Yeah nah, she gives so many shitty people an open invitation into the garden and engages just about anyone.

>>102190900
over under on numbers going back up when she gets to stream all the old games she wanted to play? not sure how much of her fanbase are retro game loving ojisans like Koronesukis

>>102190911
This is correct.
If she keeps 15k-20k that would actually mean she's still got just as much as she did as Gura during normal game streams that didn't have some sort of return buff or karaoke buff or whatever else going on.

~15k for an uneventful gaming stream is where she should end up and settle and that would be good for her and nothing bad or amazing, just right.

>>102190947
nta, but I don't think she cultivated such audience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RevoyVVOJ7s
Which items have the best deal? Personally, I'll go for that microwave.

is slop just another word for "thing i don't like"? one of those is RE4 so i don't think it's really slop. also roulette games aren't horror games as far as i know.

>>102190434
She hasn't even gone on one of her hiatuses yet, once she does is probably when she'll see her real floor

gooooood morning southeast asia