Pink Bandages Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.

Mel is LIVE! And is playing some Baldur's Gate 3. Simple as. Kson is also LIVE! And is playing some Death Stranding. Also simple as. Finally Hestia and Hotaru are LIE! And are playing Apex together along with Takoko! That's it for now so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

Image source: https://twitter.com/karatsuki_fox/status/1942841645554360652

VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak

Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussion

Previous Thread: >>102180896

I like mouse :)

With all the - partly ironic - baiting going on you can’t forget that Mouse exhibited questionable behavior in the past when it comes to collabing her coworkers. There were multiple instances where she clearly prioritized hanging out with flesh streamers, even making up excuses to not have to show up. That is not acceptable behavior and it deserves to be criticized.

Mouse is watching Final Destination 4

>>102186735
go to sleep, bro
you're not even making sense anymore

>>102186747
I'll never forgive her for this...

>>102186770
Makes way more sense than "ironmouse bad" for the 1000 time. These things did happen, we have the receipts.

>>102186735
they won't care. they'll see the "unity" now and forget about it when it happens again.

>>102186817
ok, go file a complaint or something, """critizicing""" her here is not gonna achieve anything

Mouse is a great streamer

>>102186683
>>102186862
would you stop baiting for at least one thread?

>>102186882
;)

>>102186735
You can't forget that zen exhibited frequent incidents of emotionally unstable behavior to the point that we have a term for it (zenhera), frequently overreacts when she doesn't get her way, is incredibly overbearing and demands constant attention and has proven herself to be an unprofessional and petty bitch. That is not acceptable behavior and it deserves to be criticized.

>>102186923
I can accept that but for some reason you can't accept any of Mouse's faults. Once is a coincidence, twice is a pattern.

>>102186882
nta and kys

>>102186882
Saying how good of a streamer Mouse is in the Vshojo thread isn't bait anon.

>>102186942
You are only ever talk about mouse's 'faults' and make no mention of zen's 'faults'. You are clearly biased and as such your opinion should be disregarded

>>102186923
Yes it does. I don’t know if that’s some American mental illness but criticizing one party doesn’t mean you have to become a diehard supporter for the other party and ignore all their faults.

>>102186955
oh my bad, I thought this was the ironmouse srs biznes criticismsms general

>>102186970
I'm not the guy that posted this >>102186735
I'm the guy who has been blaming Zen for the auditions since day one. I've now come to realize that Mouse has plenty of faults after ignoring it for years.

>>102186985
So be consistent then. Criticize both parties equally (especially when both parties are involved) but you don't ever do this unless called out. Important to remember that none of this would have occured if zen didn't block mouse. No matter how wrong mouse is in this situation she isn't the one who opened this can of worms to the internet

I'm gonna sue mouse, she can't keep getting away with this

ballsy raid into monke I expect some unhappy people

>>102186955
It wasn't said in good faith

I’m going to miss Froggy

>>102186923
>Zen raids Mouse
>Mouse says she wants to play games with her soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dst6haJwkAc
>nothing happens
>days later, Zen talks about a friend who she tried to invite to something, got denied, and then went out and play with more people on the day Zen asked to play.
>zen adds that this is something that happened often
>"iT's aLl zEnHenRa"
It is clear that Mouse didn't want to collab with Zen as much as Zen wanted, and instead of actually telling her the truth. As much as it was Zen overthinking, her thinking was right, and Mouse should have told it before, and not let it boil out and explode.

basically, they are both stupid and childish.

>>102187068
man, you are too dense. why should we criticize both equally if their sins are not equal?

>>102187181
kys

>>102187181
All this tells me is Zen doesn't know how to have a real adult friendship and is way too needy.

>Thread is still melting down
>Mouse and Zen had a falling out
>My Oshi deals with private matters and can't stream
When can we go back to having fun?

>>102187068
to be fair, zen didn't make it public at all, the only reason some anons here are even aware of it is because they're weirdo stalkers. there's no easy way to see this without going way out of your way to find out
now I don't know what went down between those 2 and I don't really care honestly. they're both adults and we don't know most of the shit that goes on on their real lives and never will. this is not a reality tv show, they're just silly cartoon girls on the telly
anons reallu shouldn't take this stuff that seriously

>>102187241
If anything, Mouse took Zen's patience to a limit. If you don't have friends you don't have to tell me anon, but if I try to invite a friend to hang out, get constant "no, i'm busy that day" and find out that those days, they were going out with me, I would also be wondering if maybe I did some shit wrong to them, or if they don't like me. And I would drop that friendship as well, those aren't friends, no matter if they say everything is good.

>>102187259
>>102187269
I did that, I summoned her teehee

>>102187259
I rate this haiku 3/10

>>102187284
People get busy anon, this tells me you've never had real friends for a long time.
Shit happens and sometimes its not about you, people go though things sometimes.

is this thread just one person playing two roles: pro-mouse and anti-mouse?

>>102187380
When you will realize that there are people upset? Not everything is one guy.

>>102187192
To be fair and consistent especially since we still don't know what really happened. Even though zen has the greater amount of blame for this drama becoming a thing

>>102187380
it wouldn't surprise me

>>102187407
if we don't know what happened than why talk about it so much?

pew pew

>>102187261
Zen blocking mouse on a public platform (we all know mouse didn't unfollow knowing her history and the fact that she still follows silver) is sending a public message. All she needed to do was nothing}
>anons reallu shouldn't take this stuff that seriously
It's not just anons it's on reddit, twitter and youtube at this point. Which makes what zen did even worse

>>102187348
And that's the thing, if people are busy sure I get it, but if they are hanging out without you, that ain't being busy, that's excluding you. Zen was one of the people who often said how she knew that Mouse was busy, or that Mouse had much on her plate, but let's draw the line where it matters, it's a fucking stream, they ain't that busy. Shit I have seen Zen stay up late for a collab, did Mouse never asked Zen if she wanted to join a lobby of REPO?

>>102187400
it is right now

Honestly I would not want to collab with Zen either, every time I've seen collabs with Zen people always have to wait for her response or she talks over them.

>>102187473
You're doing it again. You can't fathom that Mouse can possibly be at fault here so everything must be one guy.

>>102187468
imagine crying this much over a REPO collab

>>102187348
Only women have that retarded mentality around friendship.

>>102187468
>that ain't being busy, that's excluding you
So considering Zen has had dozens of collabs without mouse for the past few months we can say that she was excluding mouse?

The most fucked up thing for me isn't even the Mouse/Zen stuff, Its Matas package
Thats just straight up unprofessional and uncalled for

>>102187468
Zen asked her to play WoW, A game Mouse has been very open about not wanting to play, maybe she should know her friends better.

>>102187506
I mean, I put the principle on the level of stupidity we are talking, but point still stands. Mouse did avoid Zen, and the time Zen patience run her course was the Elder Ring one. It's that it.
>>102187534
>I asked that friend to collab
>they kept telling me no
There's why.

>>102187505
Nta but you are just as bad. You can't fathom that zen can possibly be at fault here

>>102187566
But I already have. I've said multiple times that Zen should stop taking these collabs seriously. But it's obviously very important to her.

>>102187562
elden ring???

>>102187562
>I kept asking that friend to collab without any regard for anything going on in their life and how it might make them unable
They understandable had to tell me no
>I will now overreact and act like a child
ftfy

>>102187589
Nightreign with Henya and Ari

>>102187543
A thing, they both played for humor. They still collabed after.
>>102187589
When Zen talked about this friend, it was the day after Mouse, Henya and Ari played Nightreign

I miss lewd waifu Mouse

>>102187463
look man, you can't really tell who's following who without doing some pretty involved stuff, that shit doesn't really show up on its own, you have to be specifically looking for it
and I can't tell for sure, but I'm willing to bet the info about it originated and spread directly from /here/

>>102187605
>>102187615
you really think Zen would leave Vshojo because mouse i didn't play elden ring with her this one time?

>>102187631
It's probably a culmination of other things we never hear about. That was the last straw.

To be honest if zen had kept this private I wouldn't have any issue with her but not doing that was by far the biggest sin in this entire situation

>>102187617
Mouse told lots of dirty jokes during movie night

What is this petty shit, I have friends I have not spoken to in years but when I meet them they are still friends.

>>102187644
how does that not make Zen look fucking retarded?

The stupidest thing about all this discourse is we have no idea when someone unfollowed someone. It could have been a year ago and people are acting like it just happened and is relevant to today lol.

>>102187631
No, Zen was planning on leaving before the subathon.
>She literally said days prior to the subathon that the merch was going to be last thing on a while.
>She asked before of leaving VShojo on March.
That was just the last straw of their friendship, totally separated.

>>102187663
Don't ask me. It's obviously something she values highly.

>>102187648
Yes, she's always more herself when she's not streaming on her main channel, which is what is so sad.

mousefags keep this attitude when she ditches vshojo for fleshies again. I can't wait.

>>102187674
well they collabed after March so this whole rrat is fucking stupid

>>102187672
It was the day Zen leaving got announced.
>>102187647
This is private still, people can check it but truth be told no one can even tell you that conversation was about Mouse, people can assume it is, and draw assumptions but it is not confirmed nor denied.

>>102187692
Ironic considering zenfags have been shitting up the thread and anti'ing mouse for months

>>102187710
Was it? Did people confirm that Zen and Mouse were following each other the day before? Or are people jumping to conclusions with no info and spamming the thread for days over a rrat with no legs

>>102187716
It's not silverfags anymore? You changed targets?

>>102187692
I do not care about collabs.
If she doesn't collab with vshojo, I don't give a shit, if she doesn't collab with fleshies, I don't give a shit.
I want to watch Mouse.

>>102187709
Again, Mouse and Zen is a totally different topic than Zen and VShojo.
Also, on march funnily enough Mouse put Zen's vip back for some reason. She did the same on January when she removed it, people here noticed and she added it back.

>>102187710
You are just being bad faith at this point

>>102187726
People had checked before because Mouse got removed from Zen's vip/mod back in June 12th. which is also documented on these threads. So, it could be between those days, but probably was the same day it got announced.

>>102187745
seems like people are trying way too hard to pit mouse and zen against each other

>>102187745
>She did the same on January when she removed it, people here noticed and she added it back.
You have no way to know that it was mouse who removed zen's vip and not zen removing it herself (which you can do on twitch).

>>102187773
we need the drama, sister
yaaaaaaaaaassss

>>102187773
>people
one peop

I hate Zen for the 2view auditions.
I hate Mouse for the fake unity shit.

>>102187736
No need to force Silver bait anymore now that things are actually happening.

>>102187783
They ignore that because it doesn't fit their agenda

>>102187648
I love degen Mouse.

>>102187605
So what should mouse do when a collab for a three player game is already set and then zen asks to play. Tell henya or ari to fuck off?

zen off topic now so leave.....

>>102187836
no you are not

>>102187850
It's not that. Going by what Zen said, she heavily implied that she got ghosted or something along those lines.

>>102187885
/lig
/big
fuck off squatters crying so hard jesus

>>102187886
esl?
That response makes no sense to the post.

>>102187901
How does imply ghosting? Zen states the person is responding and telling them no? Ghosting would be if mouse wasn't responding at all. And my questions stands what should mouse say other than no when zen asks to collab even though mouse has a prior engagement?

I want Mouse to play some degen games on Discord, games she can't play on stream.

>>102187805
honestly based

>>102187773
It's a weird topic, but yeah.
Truth is, there has been something wrong between the two all this year. People were called schizos for pointing it out, but it was truth. But here's the date, funnily enough this day they collabed with each other on REPO.
>>102187783
Exactly the day, no.
Far as we know, Zen wasn't a VIP between December 8th and January 11th. No timeout, nothing. Only on Mouse's channel.
https://logs.spanix.team/?channel=ironmouse&username=zentreya
Mouse added it this day first after people pointing it out.
>>94276005
Somewhere got removed before March 21th (Zen raided Mouse) according to the logs, again no other channel where this happened, no timeout, nothing.
And lastly added back on the 24th, same day Zen, Ari, Henya collabed with her, 35 minutes after the stream started.
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse/streams/319712769149

>>102187957
I think what's being implied here is that although Zen has asked this person multiple times if she is free for a collab, the person would rather ask someone else.
In this hypothetical scenari, Zen asked Mouse if she wanted to play Nightreign but Mouse said "No, I'm busy". Sure, she may be busy and that's fine.
However, when Mouse collabed with Henya and Ari for Nightreign, Zen is upset that she wasn't asked even though she asked Mouse for a collab.
Do you understand now?

>>102188038
no human being should care this much about Twitch VIP lists

>>102188041
is Zen a child?

>>102188070
autism from zenfags

>>102188094
It doesn't matter. That is what she values. If she thinks that it is a dealbreaker, it is what it is. Personally, I would be pretty upset if a long time homie didn't ask me first knowing I was asking for a while.

kson streaming to 2.5k viewers with #VShojo in the title... you never know where the saving grace would come from.. xD

>>102188094
Imagine if you asked a very good friend if he wanted to go a concert in 2 months time. He says no. You ask again next week, he says no again. The day of the concert comes and you find out he's actually going with other friends but didn't invite you.

>>102188160
Yeah, a previous Henya raid dumbass.

>>102188175
So, the asnwer is yes in short ?

>>102188191
I don't think that is childish behavior. I think it's a regular human reaction to be upset at that.

>>102188178
that was what, 3 hours ago ? retarD

>>102188210
it's very childish

Mouse you have five thousand games you've promised to beat. Stop spamming new shit for once in your life.

>>102188222
Do you have friends?

I think it's childish to try and detective this out as if any conclusions can be reached through a couple of vague statements. Nobody's saying shit. Get over it. Believe what you want to believe it's not going to change anything. If anything by continuing to argue this you're making yourselves look schizo and giving antis actual ammo to try and use.

>>102188038
None of this refutes my point. Also the gap between the first vip removal and mouse adding it back actually points more towards it being zen who removed the vip the first and mouse just didn't notice until a few weeks later. Zen removes, mouse adds her back, zen removes again. Consider the fact that zen was the one who blocked mouse as well

>>102188222
Try it with your friends :) They shouldn't be upset because it's childish. You can just tell them that.

So the Zen thing can't be all that was upsetting Mouse, it doesn't make sense because Mouse said she can't talk about it yet but will when she can.
If it was about Zen she would just never talk about it.

>>102188070
I was thinking that, but with the number of autistic people that are here, it's weird that it went unnoticed for quite some time. Then I remembered, it was in the 18th where Zen removed everything VShojo, so either Zen removed it, or Mouse got mad at that, and removed her. First one would make sense if they got any issue, but quite literally Zen raided her and invited her to a collab, which was the REPO one, also if she was in this path, wouldn't she had removed it from other channels.
>>102188214
Yeah, I'm still watching. I like Death Stranding.
Also Mel raided too.

>>102188261
you really never had real friends that won't get upset if you went somewhere without them...sad

>>102188005
That horny demon game she talked about.

>>102188276
The scenario here is if that friend asked multiple times first. You've never been in that scenario. Stop lying.

>>102188294
how the fuck would you know how many times did she ask, schizo

>>102188250
If there's proof of those removals, it has been Zen acting in ways that wouldn't be as this (Zen blocking Mouse), she was quite friendly and raided her.
Funnily enough on the first gap, it was during the whole GFUEL stuff.

>>102188175
A more appropriate would be if you asked to go to a concert that has limited spots and the other person already has plans to go with certain people

Can't believe I'm defending Zen here. Holy fuck what have I become.

>>102188230
At this point she is going to have to restart Expedition 33 because she won't remember a single thing. Over 2 months now.

>>102188308
Well no, it's not like that. The issue here lies with Mouse asking Henya and Ari first before Zen.

>>102188301
"Especially when it's happened multiple times"
>>102187901

>>102188330
now you sound like a child

>>102188311
She remembers everything as she watched Connor complete it just like RE4. Now she doesn't care to finish it.

I actually feel a little bad for mouse, she's so hated and obviously doesn't have real friends outside cdawg and candi

>>102188346
mouse specifically said she didn't watch to prevent spoiling herself.

>>102188175
nigga I have friends from years ago I still talk to like nothing happen if we dont talk for years.

>>102188307
Mouse's history shows she rarely ever blocks or unfollows people. She is still following silver.
> she was quite friendly and raided her.
Last stream mouse talked about zen multiple times and it was friendly/positive. Pretty obvious zen had a zenhera moment, removes her vip from mouse's channel and mouse adds it back later on when she notices.

>>102188340
Are you being retarded on purpose? What part of "Zen asked Mouse multiple times first" do you not understand?
>>102188359
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SCNEARIO? ARE YOU GUYS BEING RETARDED ON PURPOSE? ARE YOU EVEN READING?

>>102188175
in zens case shes inviting friends of hers i don't like on top do nope out

even scuttlebutt is begging for bideos. everyone is tired of mouse's shit.

Zen and Mouse were fighting over who has the biggest areola's and when Mouse refused to show proof she went Zenhera and blocked Mouse. Moral of the story? Show your friend your tits when they ask you to.

>Michi stream tomm night
That'll do the thread some good, getting all the 4skins back

>>102188368
you're projecting hard, bro.. chill. maybe your 'friends' didn't call you that one time, because they thought you need more friends

>>102188368
>Zen asked Mouse multiple times first
you just made this up out of thin air

>>102188311
E33 will happen when mouse has time to actually focus on it. Same thing happened with death stranding. She took a break from it for months. Too much shit going on right now

>>102188394
>>102188339

>>102188404
and where does it say mouse?

>>102188353
And she still watched him anyway

does the schizo even sleep or he is here all day these past 2 weeks? I just checking here from time to time and it's always the same posts and replies.

>>102188400
she wouldn't have to if she played it when she originally said she would over 20 times instead of spamming collabs every single day. now it gets delayed for another month because new problems have come up.

Ok I'm done. I'll just wait for the next exodus so I can laugh at who you all blame next.

>>102188437
Anon Mouse hasn't even mentioned doing fanart at all and it's already half way through the month. She's given up on any of her plans completely.

>>102188432
It's a tag team of schizos.

>>102188462
no you are not... Get a job anon

>>102188432
the one that claims zen was right to block the shit out of mouse in every platform and that was very mature ?

>>102188437
>>102188466
the funny part is if it was ari, connor, or bibinos mouse would suddenly find the time to fit it in no problem.

>>102188473
I will be here because I work from home. I will laugh when you throw Henya under the bus.

Here is my take of the situation. One is heartbroken and moving on with her life and the other is collabing with sigrid and laughing her ass off while her friend get bullied. Yeah, i know schizo is playing as a gecko but this shit doesn't look good.

Mouse please use racing princess or demon princess, its been too long since I've seen them.

>>102188526
being reddit or 4chan jannies is not a real job anon.

>>102188536
I don't think the heartbroken thing has anything to do with Mouse.

>>102188496
The ari spam has been getting obnoxious. It's as bad as the candii spam during subathon was.

>>102188567
*Zen

Did mouse say if she was going to stream?

>>102188591
yes

>>102188368
this is a vshojo thread everything you're saying is off topic now

>>102188526
of the things that would never happen, this would never happen the most. Zen was menhera, Geega and Mata were materialistic bitches. All of them are easy to throw

>>102188591
When she ended the discord stream she said she was going to start stream

>>102188608
let the schizo be schizo

>>102188482
its never just zen though its her leeches always with her

ironmouse is sexy

>>102188608
Nyan was a fake friend, Silver was evil and Vei was a bitch. All of them were easy to throw too.

got any new geegorn (geega porn)?

>>102188654
you are so cute anon

>>102188660
tabs
it's for your own good, nothing good is going to get posted ITT

>>102188654
Who?

>>102188660
strangely enough geegoner vanished since geega left.

>>102188536
One is heartbroken from probably an unrelated issue.
Both are moving on their lives.
Mei doesn't blame no one, and looking back at the collab it was a lot of teasing that even Kab and Papamutt did too

>>102188640
Stop sexualizing Mouse, she hates that and hates you gooners.

>>102188608
>of the things that would never happen, this would never happen the most.
KEK. You never know. I've seen it happen 6 times now.

hime is brainbroken

PINK RAT ALERT

Yes. Stop pushing plans for new games every single week.

Honestly I think Vshojo should just try to rebuild . Probably terminate the non streamers haruka, hime and froot. Then get some good fresh blood for en and mouse, henya and michi will be the cool oneesans.

>>102188640

>>102188706
mei had a ptsd attack anon, she left the collab, she was looping about loving her friends and shit. Please stop... I can easily find you the timestamps

>>102188735
Do the subgoals, at least try to do a few every week or month Mouse.

>>102188608
Good to see that audience like streamer is reflected clearly here

>>102188723
the only leaver who got any real hate was silver
that's why she's the only one used as bait to this day

>>102188753
>she
kek le nope https://files.catbox.moe/bo00ok.mp4

>>102188744
surely this will work. with how things are now there have to be billions of 4views and 5views begging to be part pf the org

>>102188791
oh man i had forgot about you still being pathetic here?

>>102188796
I guess that's sarcasm, but I wasn't talking about 4views or 5views. I meant something like Nova but for en

>>102188814
does she always have to do the opposite of what her audience wants? is this some kind of mental illness?

>>102188812
still being a man, just like your "oshi"

>>102188814

>>102188753
Yes, I'm sure Sigrid looked for the specific triggers of Mei to make her suffer.
It's simple dude, they stepped on a landmine which didn't know it was there. Mei obviously reacted like that, but doesn't blame them because to Mei they weren't at fault.

>>102188814
thank god

>>102188814
Hell yeah

>>102188831
oof way to be petty Mouse.

>>102188831
Imagine a chatter wanting mouse to play a game she said she loves and wants to finish soon. Then imagine telling that chatter to fuck off. Stay classy mouse.

>>102188832
DUDE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME! Please if you gonna talk shit AT LEAST watch streams retard.

>>102188854
feel free to leave if u dont like it :)

>>102188751
this mind broke up badly

>>102188829
guess you are still in the closet.

I think the VA of Shadowheart/Maelle would be a very succesfull vtuber. Vshojo should recruit her.

>>102188864
Bro fucking Mei invited Sigrid to her birthday.

>>102188863
>>102188873
not even subbed

>>102188885
i accept your concession he's a faggot

>>102188911
and you too, seeing how obsessed you are over her.

>>102188927
>her
kek

>>102188910
There have been multiple subbed and not subbed begging for both ds2 and 33 for months. Considering she promises to play them 2-3 times a week I don't blame them.

I want degen Mouse back so badly.

>>102188899
And now she is berating her every time zen is around. Nice friendship retard if anything this ia massive redflag, one more.

>>102188954
They even met IRL.

>>102188945
>>102188873
bye

>>102188945
dont worry she’ll pity bait and lie some more

I wish mouse turned down her lewdness a little bit more
that shit is so 2020

Once again respect the problems you are going through Mouse but you made this an issue yourself by pushing multiple games for months. Stop that and maybe you wouldn't have chatters begging for it constantly when you can't play.

>>102188969
are you illiterate?

who tf is this sigrid ? is that another tranny ?

>>102188744
Considering what Niji got after their fiasco
I don't really expect much from the new blood anymore ngl.

>>102188987
Hololive is that way.
Oh wait they are more whore than ever

13 jannies and schizophrenia 24/7 nice shithole you have here jannies.

>>102188992
I'm just saying, they are friends. And Mei is choosing to be friends with her, if she didn't want to due to all of this, their friendship would have ended. Getting mad for Mei when it's not your issue is 8fag behavior.

>>102188987
I would prefer Mouse being more herself not less.

>>102188994
read archive retard

>>102189013
hololive is lewd now, bro
we're the seiso corp, get with the times granpa
>>102189029
you don't know her

>>102189031
qrd?be a nice anon, anon

>>102188544(Me)
:(

>>102189026
Anon, she being friend with her changes nothing, in fact it makes it worse. It seems she is friend with bird and bird itself suffered a lot too but who cares?

>>102188989
mouse taking responsibility for her own actions? impossible.

UM WTF THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HATE EACH OTHER

>>102189056
shes not capable of admitting shes a shit person and the cause of 90% of her own problems

>>102189061
holy kek, can't imagine the schizo meltdowns right now

>>102189061
Mouse is out and joining 3AM

>>102189040
>you don't know her
I mean I just look at the evidence, she is more degen when she is not streaming on her twitch channel and I don't think she was lying about her degeneracy all those years.

>>102189061
?
No one has said this. They interacted back in the Jerma shit.
>>102189049
I'm just saying getting mad at it, it's really parasocial.

so mouse being a cunt no bloodborne I guess

>>102189061

>>102189061
my rrats.......... all down the drain
it doesn't matter tho, I'll just ignore it

>>102189042
abusive piece of shit fucked up so much with her partner she tried to run. She also tried to coerse coquii and meat to invite her to a collab with mouse and started all that drama the killed msm.

>>102189061
they’ll talk to each other this time fr fr on god

I hope we find out sooner rather than later what is upsetting Mouse.

>>102189082
It was said last thread

Snuffy raid

>>102189082
just make us a favor and kill yourself already

>>102189083
Bloodbourne starts Wednesday. She has a model prepared and everything.

>>102189084
>Haven't spoken for ages
>Handles it like an adult would because its an adult friendship.

I would have loved non chibi Decora, Mouse loves it as her comfort model and Its very sexy

>>102189125
alternative timeline:
>Blocks the shit out of her everywhere she can and spams passive aggresive tts

>>102189125
>he fell for mouses “we’re totally still close” act
repeat episodes are just boring

>>102189153
bring back goddess chibi

>>102189111
At no point did I see someone saying straight up hate, someone said that Mouse it's too busy but assuming that she doesn't want to talk to some people. Which is kinda true, Snuffy and Mouse have not really interacted that much, Snuffy still like Mouse and Mouse still likes Snuffy, but not much to really be a part of her life.

Mouse hangs out with Haruka offline. Wth how did the rat get the sleep Moose in the Zen divorce?

>>102189083
kys cunt

>>102189095
and now zen is collabing and raiding her on regular basis. I can't wait for the zenhera when she gets backstabbed.

>>102189113
What's the context to this lol?

>>102189189

>>102189166
and block her name on chat and asks chat to not metion her again KEK

>>102189043
Sorry they are too lewd to use now.

>>102189189
>Snuffy finishing stream
>Decides to raid Mouse
>You are here

>>102189189
snuffy raided mouse and mouse gave her usual we’ll game soon speech but instead had to change it to we’ll talk soon lmao

>>102189166
And then farms pity and sympathy while sending hate because the other person is too professional and kind to defend themselves

>>102189177
something happened before the subathon. Even the most regular zen pluses refused to show up.

>>102189212
>>102189189
holy shit, i'm retarded, ignore

>>102189216
You must be mad that your bait about mouse not being friends with snuffy was btfo

>>102189200
My sides KEK.
>>102189212
>>102189216
I was talking about the soundpost.

>>102189238
they’ll talk soon mouse promises :)

>>102189249
go to bed man, it's almost 5 am, shit is depressing

>>102189177
Moose has been more active late night, and more sleepy on the daylight. Every time she joined the calls she was barely waking up.
>>102189238
If raiding means they are friends, I'm gonna raid Hotaru and get in her pants.

Which VShojo would most enjoy cracking open a jar of honey

>>102189271
moose

>>102189269
cope

why are all Zen's 'friends' watching mouse in the vip lounge ?

>>102189264
mouse lie? no never :)

>>102189231
Imagine how much crazy shit this guy must do if he thinks playing it backwards "to fun" is the normal stuff he feels ok admitting to doing

>>102189295
Meicha and Saiiren use chatterino and are there almost permanently.

The persecution complex of this thread by some fans is really funny ngl.

>>102189296
go to bed bro, you pay too much attention on tis people lifes.

>>102189304
yeah me

>>102189302
mei is probably sleeping since she streamed early but last stream she was in chat talking with mouse so... LOL

>>102189295
Ari just today said Mouse is now one of her best friends ever.

>>102189313
i will as soon as mouses dad dies. must suck having your daughter ruin your life

>>102189295
Saiiren is on stream, so likely Chatterino
Meicha uses Chatterino, appears on Saiiren as well.
Ari is the only one there.

>>102189328
Haruka....

>>102189328
So, basically everybody sided with mouse, except from Geega, I suppose?

>>102189328
You don't bite the hand of your new owner, anon.
But I do hope this thread loves more Ari, because it ain't stopping.

>>102189343
Geega still regularly talks to Mouse. Would say her and Michi are more neutral.

>>102189347
dont worry ari will get ghosted just like all the rest

>>102189338
wow... Be careful to not cut yourself KEK

>>102189327
So what? You do know that Mei and Zen collabed today right?

>>102189347
just like candii if mouse didn't spam her I would have no issue with ari. unfortunately mouse doesn't know restraint...

>>102189347
I like everybody that treats Henya nice.

>>102189295
All of these people are mature adults and can like both zen and mouse (and do)

>>102189358
oh yeah, i don't think mei will be around her for long. So good job zen you made trannyschizo happy.

>>102189363
you’re asking mouse to put effort into her streams and thats just not possible since 2022 when she game up on being a decent streamer

>>102189343
The only one that took ""a side"" is Melody.
Everyone else knows it's their issue, they don't get involved and they do shit with the two if asked.

>>102189348
Michi has been closer to mouse than zen for a while.

>>102189393
>Henya

>>102189393
why wasn't Mel collabing with zen?

What if there is no big drama, and they're being adults about this whole thing, and no one actually hate each, and you're all just being mega retarded over analyzing everything?

>chatter asks about sotd with panini subgoal
>gets ignored
and there’s another dead subgoal because mouse pushed it forever

>>102189404
i mean, mouse even got to meet her GF kek

>>102189423

>>102189420
dramafaggots need something to eat like this retard here >>102189423

>>102189406
Hasn't been asked or talked to Zen.
>>102189420
Most of it has been kept between Mouse and Zen, but people here (mostly retarded people with some weird persecution complex) act like it's an ongoing war with sides and shit. Which i dunno why, it would solidify Mouse as a clique leader in the same way people saw Elira.

>>102189439
>Hasn't been asked or talked to Zen.
exactly my point

>Next week is going to be another high stress week for me so likely no Bloodbourne
Wtf is happening with Mouse? This is never ending.

>>102189439
>clique
anon...

>>102189460
probably something with Zen

Bloodborne pushed for the 10th time

>>102189460
Looks like we'll finally find out whats going down next week

>>102189460
medical stuff

>sorry guys i need to push bloodborne for the 50th time because im just so sad :(
>i’ll still have plenty of time for a bunch of trash collabs and sponsors though :)

>>102189464
so many ESLs learned that word around Selen's game over attempt last year

>>102189464
the Mouse x Froot clique has been known for a while now

Please Mouse don't forget to spam the fuck out of Music Box when it releases. Please.

>>102189490
more like clit. I'm right bros?

sooooooo bloodborne amiright

>>102189452
So, what is your point?
And what will your point be if one day Zen just asks Henya if she wants to do something?
>>102189464
What you fags are literally describing by sides is literally a clique anon, it would be a closed party against one banned person and associates, that's literally how they work in social environments.

>>102189479
She has never said it was medical or it was personal stuff.

>>102189479
Getting the results of a test or something?

>>102189460
I can't tell honestly she is so vague. She talks like it is personal and says she will tell us eventually when she can. That's about it. Anything else is guessing. Though I'm a bit worried that she has barely mentioned her dad at all for a while now.

>>102189509
if she pushes it again it just means she has more time to do the subgoals shes ignored for years

>>102189517
She just said it was bad news that's high stress, and roxxy said its a nightmare. That's all we have to go on

>>102189517
she did in fact say it was personal. not much more than that though.

>>102189514
anon get a job
>>102189517
are you not hearing how much she is coughing? Her condition is being getting worse for quite some time now.

>>102189514
The point is exactly this, they were super close and now they don't talk about eachother at all. You have to be very delusional that this is "fine" and 'nothing happened'

people actually enjoy seeing mouse playing fromsoft games? why?
be honest, you just want to get upset at her being bad at the game and complaning about it ITT or something retarded like that, don't you?

>>102189546
So were Snuffy and Mouse, and Snuffy just raided Mouse.

>>102189487
>a bunch of trash collabs and sponsors though
So zen's entire slate of content

mouse abusing her sick card really hard

>>102189552
its better than 75% of her other streams nowadays

>>102189552
I like Mouse overcoming obstacles. It makes me proud of her.

>>102189552
yeah

>>102189540
No she didn't, she has personal things going on too but that was not the heartbreaking thing.

>>102189552
they are hatewatchers baiting here because mods don't give a fuck and you faggots refuse to leave this place. You have two options, ignore them or just talk retard shit back because it doesn't matter, quality will never improve in this shithole.

>>102189541
>are you not hearing how much she is coughing?
She's got a sinus infection, she's been quite clear about that.

>I dont like using my sickness as a crutch on stream.
uses it anyway

>>102189585
yes anon

even if they dont talk much lately mouse probably was genuinely happy to see snuffy come out with the idol outfit and do a music performance, shes still known snuffy long enough to know how anxious snuffy used to be about singing

>>102189559
shes just so sad and sick anon its not her fault except for the fact most of it is

>>102189555
Not the same at all. there is obvious internal conflict between Zen and Mouse and Henya sides with Mouse. Ignore the signs all you want, but they are there.

>>102189585
doesn't stop her from collabs all day kek

>>102189613
yes, it on her nose not her fingers, retard

>>102189637
so she can do actual content then instead of pushing it back.

>>102189609
There’s an internal conflict between Mouse and Zen, yes. Just like how back it was the SVN with her, and Snuffy “took” their side in the eyes of many because she joined Nyan’s VR party, which wasn’t the case and the two just stopped being around and Snuffy still liked Mouse, even to this day. I think just like Snuffy, Henya is close to a person more than other, and this situation has been awkward for all the members and they will wait until most things are more clear.

>>102189609
>Henya
>siding with anyone
Bait, doesn't watch streams or retarded, take your pick

zen needs to drop a Google docky on mouse and then the other members will also.

>>102189662
I kind of know how he feels because I would really like to kill schizos like him

Mouse once again saying a new mc server is coming soon. Might take time but Mouse thinks it might be coming hopefully around August. Could be sooner but rather say later and surprise us if it comes earlier.

I don't want a new Minecraft server, that just means more non stop collab spam.

one silver lining, the new minecraft server won't have a giant laggy waterfall at spawn

>>102189662
this but just watching karma ruin her life like she deserves

>>102189729
Can't wait for zen to abused and used by all the 2 views until she inevitably has the final zenhera and commits suicide

>>102189721
mouses pluses yikes

Mouse has loads of watchalongs on the subgoal list.

>>102189765
she has loads of subgoals on the subgoals list because she doesn’t do any

>>102189765
negative she has 5 lists on a lists

wait horse sashimi is an actual thing

>A lot of things happening this July
Worrying.

>>102189765
Mouse there is also covers on the goal list too.

Mouse you do this to you're self, you agree to everything and plan way more things than you can physically do.

I would rather have subathon that a concert

Remember. 4 oofs.

>>102189833
id rather she do her god damn subgoals than either

Special cool things with gfuel coming soon.

GFuel bought Vshojo confirmed

>>102188376
Scuttlebutt did send in like 6 videos I think he just wants to see those specific ones

Mouse's Halloween model is modeled by Cluesellar(sp?)

>>102189914

>>102189925

>>102189925
Wow that is good. Perfect for Mouses Geex+ debut

>>102189943
non canon panties

>>102189914
FUCK YEAH, I love his art

>>102189925
holy booba, I hope the jiggle physics is good

>>102189943
>no monke panties
>mouse is still ignoring nano
connorfags btfo again it never stops

>>102189559
i wish mouse would abuse my cock really hard

>>102189972
>>102189952
mindbroken

>>102189925
>>102189943
I'm hoping for a jump and a sitting toggle.
I really miss the yumping

>>102189925
>>102189943
The worst part of Mouse dropping Kevin is the move to MLTs instead of BLTs.

>>102189925
and now i will buy your merch

>>102189925
>>102189943
ffs Mouse, the ahoge.
Why does it keep getting forgotten, its an iconic part of Mouse.

>>102189943
>>102189925
why do all her most recent models have giants ass forheads?

>>102189972
>mouse is still ignoring nano
is this dude so mindbroken hes making up shit?

>Mouse is talking more openly
This is a good stream

>>102189972
you've been exposed and btfo a million times and you keep going.

>>102190026
concept art doesn't have it

I still want the shower stream.

>>102190061
Mouse has added it multiple times when the concept art doesn't have it. The bells also seem to be missing again. Hopefully Mouse talks to the artist and fixes that.

>>102190061
Neither did some of the other but they added it because it is very iconic part of Mouse

>>102190089
mouse has been getting lazy with the ahoge and the bells lately. she doesn't bother fixing the art anymore.

>>102190108
It is worrying how often at least one of those are missing. Those are supposed to be the only two things required on her models outside of angels. They are supposed to be the distinguishing features for every Mouse model.

>>102190155
mouse doesn't care about kayfabe anymore

So now that Geega is gone. Who will be the next the next Vei-Geega replacement?

>>102190178
nta but I think the ahoge is more important and its not because of kayfabe.

>Connor raids
>Mouse stops talking candidly
Connor really is the problem

>>102190192
I remember when she did this with infernal princess and chat freaked out about it being a hair strand and not ahoge. Ever since she keeps forgetting about it. Hell look at this current model. You call this a heart ahoge?

>>102190227
Not technically true. The ahoge has actually been very consistent. It is the bells that keep being forgotten. For example her latest cosplay models and cyber mouse are all missing bells.

>>102190191
HalO

>>102190280
nta but I'm less bothered by the bells but the ahoge should always be there.

>>102190280
chat brought that up too with cyber mouse during debut and mouse tried to explain that the tampon on her horn was supposed to be the bell. which was obvious a bs excuse for her forgetting about it. clearly she has given up on that lore.

>>102190280
The bell is in her ass now

>>102190191
Very interesting thought. I wonder if we can "classify" vshojo members.
>Overconfident white hair sex goddess that is a thread favorite but controversial
Vei > Geega > ?
>Loved by everyone
Nyan > Henya (incumbent)

Can anyone come up with anything else?

>>102190280
>>102190313
The problem is as time passes the average chatter forgets the lore so less and less people bring it up. For example I don't think a single person mentioned the bell missing for the cosplay models and I bet you very few will realize the heart ahoge missing when the zombie one debuts. Also since Mouse doesn't view it as important the average chatter doesn't either anymore.

>>102190327
>Loved by everyone
>Nyan
You're baiting.

>>102190201
you jealous of him so badly

>>102190367
He's bbnodicksucker, of course he's jealous.

>>102190367
I'm just going to feel sad for Mouse when she finally finds out how much he cheats on her.

>Mouse like staring at her butt
I love perv Mouse

>>102190301
Imo both are important. Heart ahoge for recognition and bells for the connected Bubi lore. That was the one thing Bubi did for Mouse and should be represented on models as the way her power is contained. It doesn't have to be something major on the model but it should at least exist. This is even more important since Mouse is now expanding lore with Time to Feast and other future connected videos she has hinted are coming.

>>102187068
That's the main thing that made me look at Zen in a worse light. She didn't have to drop any hints that that there was a long time friend she wanted to drop, she didn't have to block or unfollow Mouse on multiple accounts. She's already /out/ of VShojo so there's no real expectation for her to interact with Mouse again. She wasn't born yesterday and knows everyone can figure out when she blocks and unfollows a person on multiple public platforms at once. It would have been incredibly easy for her to leave gracefully and wish Mouse the best, and she would have been the bigger person for doing so. It's easy to tell that some of the leavers are bitter towards both VShojo and some of the current members, and try to subtly throw gas on the fire in ways they think will have minimal blowback on them.

>>102190471
The thing is Mouse if you want to go by lore, has said the bells can change form. so they can be any accessory on a model.
The heart ahoge actually matters.

>>102187692
Mouse should collab with some upstanding vtubers like Sigrid and Bird instead.

>>102190484
>and try to subtly throw gas on the fire in ways they think will have minimal blowback on them
While maximizing negative impact towards others especially when they know the other person is too professional to say anything about it. Left a bitter taste in my mouth towards zen

>>102190500
let's be honest the accessory part is only to be used as an excuse when she forgets to have it added.

Mei is in Mouse chat.

How does Mouse do anything if she refuses to use her address on websites.
like if you want to buy anything these days they need an address.

>>102189720
Assuming the Minecraft server is a VShojo server and not something Mouse cooked up herself, I think it's safe to assume that anyone that stays to play on it will have no plans of leaving any time soon. If we just make it through July with no one else leaving, I think we're safe for awhile.

>>102190758
Mouse never said vshojo

>>102190758
>>102189789

At least from the way Mouse was talking about bloodborne, whoever is going down is happening within the next week.

>>102190699
VShojo adress, then they resend to her

End it.

>>102190810
>We can still collab with them if they leave
This may be true, but I feel like subconsciously, they are avoiding them because of corpo autism. The best way is to end the group.

>>102190766
That's why I said IF. IF Mouse is going to leave I think it's likely before a VShojo Minecraft server gets created or her eight year anniversary. The anniversary would be a perfect way to get eyes on her as an indie and to show she's still relevant without the brand. If she's still /in/ for both she's probably staying. If the server is her own it's a bad sign for VShojo though. If she's /out/ before her own server releases she can use it as a way to network with all the /BIG/ indies with her new indie identity. If she's still /in/ and the server is her's, then I think there's still a high chance she's /out/ before her eight year anniversary though. We can only hope VShojo was competent enough to set up a working Minecraft server.

>>102190853
>Corpo autism
I don't think this is the right word to use. I feel like it's more of a "Why did they leave us? Do they hate us?" type of feeling. A sense of betrayal.

>>102191001
>>102191001
>>102191001

>>102188654
>>102188692
uh oh silverschizo melty

>>102188789
Only mindbroken schizos itt hate her. Normal, sane people don't, obviously.
>that's why she's the only one used as bait to this day
And those who use her as bait are getting called out and shit on every. single. time.

>>102190380
yo a white knight kek go save mouse then

>>102191395
>waits until end of thread again
KWAPAB

>>102191424
normal sane people don't even know she exists and if they did they would think she's a creep for selling GFE while having a boyfriend.