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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

Lui...

Koseki…

>>102191043

Reminder
Who is behind all the shitposting

>S-Saba is going to go on hiatus again soon, I j-j-just know it!
>Source: my ass!

>>102191050
shit pick Ruinee

>butt hurt sabahumans

>Peak 2021 Gura

>>102191074
eh, out of the three only the air purifier is what i'd get
I anyhow make my coffee on a V60

free talk gold

Women

>>102191131
Lapplus hates coffee confirmed

>>102191131
would you buy the espresso machine though?

>Promise sang fucking Dance Monkey

>>102191114
Not so fast

>>102191114
>Pekora not even pictured
Why is she so weak?

Also I saw a fucking Kiryu Kai???

>>102191094
>16k with new debut nimi
kek this shark is washed up in 2 years no one will remember her, such a low floor

is this pvp or pve?

>>102191203
Seems like PvP, just that the others are trash

Vrabi bricked?

>>102191244
草 yes

>>102191254
that ain't no laughing matter

>>102191258
i've only had that for the /live page the others seem fine

>>102191279
>Marine already plateauing
Mikochi, tasukete. Even a rarity + buff game Marine can't bring in the CCV anymore.

So marine secured holo gold for this month with dbz kakarot

More clip numbers.
Shorts boom ends this week it seems.
(HL, NJ, VS)
Split is 252.4M(-15.0M), 192.8M(-35.4M), 106.8M(-65.5M)
Recent is 93.4M(-23.4M), 60.6M(-35.0M), 35.0M(-59.0M)
JA Split is 208.0M(-4.1M), 188.3M(-32.7M), 104.9M(-63.9M)
EN Split is 33.8M(-9.2M), 3.1M(-2.5M), 780k(-420k)
Regular Split is 68.3M(-4.9M), 46.4M(-8.6M), 13.4M(-4.7M)
Shorts Split is 184.1M(-10.2M), 146.3M(-26.8M), 93.3M(-60.8M)

>>102191344
Graph.

>>102191341
it's just the 12th so far anon

>>102191344
More clip numbers, filtering out JA.

>>102191296
Either tomorrow or Monday she'll be back

>>102191296
Pekora only got 42k with her first stream

https://x.com/yayoiken1324/status/1943993954543841508
SYDNEY Setlist
Color Rise Harmony(Main 5 members)
Calli - Go-Getters
Ollie - History
IRyS, Nerissa - Don't say "lazy"

MC - Calli, Ollie

Nerissa - Say My Name
IRyS - Carbonated Love
Nene - NENENENENENENENE!DAIBAKUSOU
Nene, Calli, Ollie - KICK BACK

MC - Nene, IRyS, Nerissa

Bae - 狂宴-FEAST
Kronii - Souten ni Moyu
Promise - DANCE MONKEY

MC - Promise

Nene, Nerissa, Ollie - Suspect
Calli, IRyS - Capsule
LIVE IT LOUD!(Main 5 members)
EN CORE - SSS

>>102191390
oh they done?

I'm really happy for Dooby meeting Ashton and uhhhh, I don't remember who the other one is.
But yeah!

I wonder how long this shill stream is

>>102191390
There was also a silent dance performance between Promise and Suspect

>>102191296
Nigga the game just started

>>102191450
wtf is suspect

is Aqua's sushi stream still the most viewed shill stream in vtubing?

>>102191476
What did it get?

>>102191450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgu5I77OW4U
or you mean they danced to this?

>>102191508
that's kinda packed huh

>>102191503
around 55k IIRC. it mogged Kuzuha's APEX stream when it happened.

>>102191094
Yeah this is what pisses me off. The entire discussion of Gura's numbers are made of newfags who think she's some 20k floor and always has been, when her real range was like 13-20k with big buffs taking her somewhat above and big debuffs taking her slightly below.
And now we have to suffer "infinite degrowth" shitposts cause they can't wrap their heads around numbers stabilizing somewhere, like every vtuber that ever lived post debut.

>>102191531
everything just to shit on Saba, we will use it.

2470 tickets sold for Sync Aus the cheapest seats were 99 the most expensive were 219 eyeballing it the division between the 3 types is about even so they made somewhere around 402k revenue in ticket sales. This is without merch sales which were all of it and any fees SmashCon paid

>>102191506
No they did the Promise Mac, did a dance section to a song I didn’t recognise then did Suspect

Any Koshien stream later?
Chiroru is about to mog Niji again

MARINE 40K DORYAAAAAAA

https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/tnum/102116672/deleted/deleted/order/asc/
062018 UTC (23 posts)
seething at holos, seething at exholos, samefagging, seething at helmite, seething at tower, spamming cuckpost

061853 UTC (57 posts)
shitpost at exholos and Nimi but mostly shitposting holos, really hates Biboo and Justice, complain about the homopost that getting spammed by another schizo

061733 UTC (32 posts)
shitpost about both holos and exholos, doxposting, cuckpost, complain about thread being brown

062505 UTC (29 posts)
shitpost about exholos, shitpost about the thread being shitposting thread and cuck thread

062301 UTC (30 posts)
mostly defending biboo but doing it while sperging out replying to every obvious bait and obvious shitpost, also shitpost using biboo one time(why?)

064716 UTC (1 post)
probably nuked because of racism

061814 UTC (13 posts)
shitpost about exholos and then samefagged the post, shitpost about holos and then samefagged the post again, and couple more holo shitposts

062340 UTC (4 posts)
post about holo botting, complain about ccv doesn't matter anymore

063043 UTC (1 post)
complain about pebbles

074126 UTC (35 posts)
all his posts are screencap of jurard livestream, screencap of jurard tweets, cuckposting holos, and talk about jerking off to ntr evryday

total posts nuked 225

>>102191508
The whole China town is there kekw

what the fuck is wrong with this bitch

>>102191476
nope
didn't Miko's humidifier got like 70k+ or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff80GzA8-2g
the giant is coming

>>102191633
KEKAROO OBESSESSED

>>102191531
>And now we have to suffer "infinite degrowth"
LINEAR EXTRAPOLATION BROS WW@!
>ASSEMBLE!

>>102191633
Jezas

>>102191672
Can she be the highest indie today?

>>102191648
She’s talking about katseye

>>102191476
>is Aqua's sushi stream still the most viewed shill stream in vtubing?
>>102191664
>didn't Miko's humidifier got like 70k+ or something?
Technically, wouldn't that gameshow where Bae won the big prize (1M yen cash money IIRC) and the rest of the Holo girls won assorted merchandise provided by the sponsors the biggest one?

>>102191686
easily (if you dont count the basebore convert)

>>102191702
Then Ui is also a convert.
She just used her artist persona as vtuber.

>>102191686
Likely form the waiting room

>>102191702
Chiroru? I don't think he can beat Shigure Ui unless the game goes to the 11th inning or something. Also he's not a convert

>>102191692
Makes sense they're both disgusting foreigners doing kpop

>>102191700
the gameshow doesn't count since it has to be a stream that actively shills a product, not just being a part of it like Mikkorone 24 for example.

>>102191737
>doing Kpop
Their songs aren’t in Korean.

so how do we save saba?
this is a concerning bleeding rate

>>102191757
Never she's gonna go into -viewer debt

>>102191757
she should get a better design ASAP

>>102191757
She streams to often. She needs to take a break to recharge rarity buff

>>102191757
aaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee

>>102191508
This looks like there is a lot less people than Virtual Vacation. Is this the state of HoloEN concert right now?

>>102191757
she needs to create some drama unironically

>>102191757
Hasnt everyone said she would be happier with less popularity

>>102191799
>>102191793
>>102191781
>>102191771
>>102191757

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ1MFMG_Wog

>>102191815
ABE I'LL FULFILL YOUR LEGACY

>>102191508
There are approx 800 people in this shot.

>>102191754
I said what I said.

>>102191815
Nene's mama?

>>102191757
Soon she will be below the queen of holoEN.

>>102191852
I don't think 0s and 1s have a gender.

>>102191849
Shinonome Umi. gravure idol that does scale modeling.

>>102191864
whatya mean, 1 is a schlong and 0 is an onahole

https://youtu.be/9JlxtqpHdtQ

>>102191757
>perms to play whatever you want
>play shit
sigh

azskey starting strong today

>>102191867
I got her a lot in my suggestions because of people liking kson fleshie streams here and YouTube suggesting her instead

>>102191883
The last Akatsuki, until Shachi finally decides to join!

>Mr Paradise Gori Su gone
Good thing my concubine Azki just started

>>102191883
Name doesn't ring a bell. Who?

Actual advent swimsuits? Different from everyone else?
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1944004017476317207

>>102191914
Someone that may have inadvertently conned a bunch of JPs into believing she's Shion.

>>102191892
she's going to be speeding through a bunch of shit content games that she wanted to play before but couldnt for a bit
It'll taper off eventually, its good that she filters tourists with it now if she ever has to do it

>>102191883
literally who

>>102191633
I love the daily schizo tally

>>102191907
Retard
>>102191914
No one, but some retards thought she was Shion

>>102191757
this is what she wanted

Azki I'll renew my mengen just put the frame up for the ASMR

>>102191937
>>102191948
But where is she now? She said big things will happen this month.

>>102191757
I think damage is done.
She should just continue with whatever she's doing, not like there's anything fundamentally wrong with it.

>>102191939
>she wanted to play before but couldnt
didnt want to you mean

>>102191633
The Holos and ex. Holos really trigger this fuck. Are they hired by Niji to do this shit?

>>102191976
She didn't have perms for Wheel of Fortune.

>>102191939
The real problem isn't the debuff shit but the new timeslot. It's untennable for her former peaks, which did rely on JOPs and yes SEA quite a bit

What happened to the Hololive concert? It couldn't even match an indie concert anymore

>>102191381
Pekora also had tech problems, switched between consoles and had to restart the tutorial

lol the seafag is trying really hard with the retarded bait

>>102192002
It sold 150% of Virtual Vacation in Australia

>>102191995
Blame cover, I'm sure they warned and threatened her like sakuna to not overlap the new faces of holoEN, biboo and mori.

>>102192008
Pekora also pretended to know nothing absolutely about DBZ while Marine made it clear she's read the manga

>>102191995
You should advise HoloEN.

>the tranny is samefagging again

azki 24k btw, she might get a podium

How did Vivi and Watame become friends?

>>102192028
i thought the current shitpost is Cover forcing her to be on that timeslop and now she is free from it?

Just so we're clear, after today when she gets buff numbers cuz muh amesame, she'll be "back on an incline"? How many times have we had this conversation anons? I remember you fags doing it for when she dropped from 20k peak as Gura and swearing it will never happen again only to get slapped around the second day.

>>102192030
Oh nevermind is just the flip but for the record Pekora talked about reading the manga like 2 years before when she couldn't get the Kakarot permissions and she was aware of the Brolly/Vegeta memes.

>>102192064
The current shitpost is HoloEN still sucks and is getting worse.

>be a hag that knows nothing about video games
>start playing popular video games on stream
>get numbers
it's that easy?

>>102191883
>those Sakuna, Shion, and Ruka oshimarks on her chart.
she has a weird fandom overlap.

>>102191062
actual source is precedent
this is the same shit we heard about dooby

>>102192085
if it's that easy then why is it so hard for ERB?

>>102192055
>PekoMariVivi collab
>Vivi lists Watame as her favorite member
>Watame asks for her to collab

>>102192030
Would be very weird if marine feign ignorance. She already talked about it a few times before.

>>102192086
chat*

>>102192064
None of the "Cover is forcing the timeslot" shitposts are worth squat. She is using this timeslot cause she gets sleepy as fuck with the old one. As long as it leads to more streams and less stress, it's a win.

>>102192072
i remember when it happened and niggers shitposting about gura losing to homos tourney

>>102192100
>stream
found the problem

>>102192100
I don't remember the last popular game ERB played

>>102192086
It's all retards that got baited by her
>5.5k views for a random that people happened to think was Shion
She got lucky

>>102191995
oh nyo saba is only going to mog the second biggest en vtuber by 2x every time instead of 2.5x so she can have a better sleep schedule
Such a tragedy!
happy wife happy life

>>102191757
People realized she's really nothing to write home about in terms of entertainment, outside of the initial "Gura is back" hype.

>>102192101
Thanks. That’s cute. The more I learn about Vivi the more I realize she’s actually a really chill insecure autist that should’ve had a comfy model.

>>102191648
Good to know holoEN is still prestigious enough for grifterrat to leech off of

>>102191757
She needs to actually lock in like Nimi
'cept we already know that's not gonna happen and she's gonna go into one of her tummyhort hiatuses again
Something that will always make me laugh is the cope fags have about ex-holo girls supposedly going to 180 on all of their previous characteristics once they go indie
Dooby and Nimi showed that they stream just as much as they streamed prior, but shrimpcucks seriously think Saba is gonna buck the trend because ???

That said, this is the same sort that tolerated that sort of behavior for years so I shouldn't be too surprised

>get some random twitter post bout Nikke
>some guy is saying tourists don't understand the lore if they want Male Nikkes, that it's already a thing but it didn't work
>look at replies
>Fucking Rider, the homobegger, bitching about how it isn't fair
I laughed and no one else but you fags would get why

29k doruyaaaaaaaaaa

>>102192128
so without any hype anymore she is 5 times bigger than indies and holos?
Kind of makes me think that she is amazing in terms of entertainment value honestly

>>102192136
what? what does that have to do with anything? It just feels like you piggy backed on that post for incoherent seethe

>>102191995
>>102192127
can anons have a nice discussion about timeslot without you guys throwing shit and mogposting?

>>102192136
>because ???
Because she was pretty upfront how Cover management being utter shit blocked all her stream ideas and took away her motivation to stream anything.

>>102192130
She has that model because she is good at Makeup, I dont think she envisioned herself becoming a sweaty gamer but thats how it turned out with minecraft.

>>102192144
secret crush

>>102192119
Minecraft

>>102192153
>what? what does that have to do with anything?
can you not read?
I literally said she needs to lock in like Nimi, but wont because of course not

>>102192158 (me)
mean for >>102192028 instead of >>102191995

>>102192162
timestamp?

>>102192174
>did it only for ENReco, 2 months ago
well okay

>>102192158
the argument is retarded
She is settling around 20k because the western vtuber market is only that big
She had 13-20k streams in hololive and in her old timeslot and she's trending towards getting the same numbers in a different timeslot
Tell me, when gura left her timeslot did other en vtubers get a 20k boost? No? So its irrelevant for her, and its mostly irrelevant for others, so tiemslot arguments just feel like concerntrolling for no real reason or facts behind it

>>102192150
Those numbers are inevitably going to drastically shrink once the honeymoon will be fully over.
Right now Saba doesn't really offer any value besides sheer nostalgia. That translated in a strong start but you gotta think about the long-term as well, and that's not going to be kind to her.

>>102192190
if you don't know then you weren't a chumbud

Look at my wife
She's beautiful

>>102192176
Your reply makes no sense in context, because you proceeded to talk about streaming which she currently is, whereas the original topic was the debut buff going down. What "lock in" that Nimi did should she do? You suggested it was streaming. That's happening.

>>102192195
see! It's nice to be civilized

>>102192210
so no proof, got it
>if you don't know then you weren't a chumbud
didn't say I was

30K DOYA!

>>102192203
*snap*
Gotcha, see you in a couple of months

30k doryaaa

>>102192195
You don't know where she's gonna stop and we've seen evidence that changing timeslots ruins vtubers again and again.
>>102192203
>Drastically
She's gonna stay 10-20k anon. Stop coping.

>>102192064
Her new timeslot choice took all kanikis and even other fanbases by surprise, and everybody thought it was a very weird choice that didn't fit her at all. Something was odd, then I remembered that cover threatening sakuna for overlapping holo content (why?) was actually real (holy pettiness). I'm sure management was a pain in the ass, constantly sending her threatening letters to her parents house. Because she doesn't want more problems and just streams and has a peaceful indie life, she complied.

Once the numbershark settles down, what are people going to shitpost with?

Leon and claire on a telephone booth

>>102192055
>friends
That's device leeching holos again.

>>102192218
If you aren't a chumbud/kaniki your opinion is irrelevant here

>>102192240
kaniki here, it didnt take me by surprise
Gura mentioned liking streaming in that timeslot more in the past and frequently did member streams earlier than normal streams, she has been wanting to change it because its better for her sleep but was afraid of making people upset
Debuting anew is a great oportunity to make small adjustments like this with a good excuse that will make her less likely to burn out in the future and im happy both that she did it and that she's so smart

>>102192246
back to nimiseethe i guess. anything just to maintain Cover's position as the only vtubing company!

>>102191757
I think a better design would've helped, but such a decline from a big start was to be expected at some point.

>>102192240
>Gargling Korekore jizz
She wasnt even talking about her time as Sukuna in this made up conversation, go back faggot.

>>102192086
There's no fandom overlap. Those are all the ex-holo slurpers who will fuck off once they clean their ears or have someone tell them that she's not related to hololive in any way.

>>102192261
So no proof, got it.

>>102192266
>anything just to maintain Cover's position as the only vtubing company
that just happens on its own

>2020
>GURA IS DECLINING, SHE'S GOING TO BE A 4 VIEW SHITTER SOON
>2021
>GURA IS DECLINING, SHE'S GOING TO BE A 4 VIEW SHITTER SOON
>2022
>GURA IS DECLINING, SHE'S GOING TO BE A 4 VIEW SHITTER SOON
>2023
>GURA IS DECLINING, SHE'S GOING TO BE A 4 VIEW SHITTER SOON
>2024
>GURA IS DECLINING, SHE'S GOING TO BE A 4 VIEW SHITTER SOON
>2025
>SABA IS DECLINING, SHE'S GOING TO BE A 4 VIEW SHITTER SOON
The more things change the less they do, I guess she really is the same same desu after all

Chumbuds set up grudge post themself for the shitposters kek

>>102192136
>She needs to actually lock in like Nimi
I mean, what else is she supposed to do besides streaming?

>>102192293
Who cares

>>102192285
Has Irys sold out her limited merch yet?

>>102192240
>then I remembered that cover threatening sakuna for overlapping holo content (why?) was actually real (holy pettiness).
>korekore
>real
>a hearsay of a hearsay of a hearsay
That doesn't even make sense because Sakuna doesn't have schedule and streams rarely, i'm just gonna assume in good faith that you are not a chumbud and just opportunist shitposter

>>102192322
Holobabies.

>>102192144
>>102192171
>>102192212
>>102192220
BASED

>>102192293
You think we won't be back to this conversation again, anon?

Mouthwashing was the kinda debuff that would've gotten her 14k as Gura (unless it was a return stream). The debut buff is still there, the numbers will inevitably go lower and the monkeys will get excited that she's a "sub 10k shitter" for dropping there once (unlike their EN oshi, who does it all the time)....then memory hole the entire thing when she's back at higher numbers.
You will fight with
>sub 20k fish
Forever, just like it was
>sub 20k shark
As if that wasn't her normal.

>>102192293
my prediction of antis celebrating as if they won after she graduates being on top of en vtubing after a 15/20 year old career comes closer every year
>i knew that she was mortal and was going to die at some point! Take that kanikis she only was the best vtuber during her entire career that is longer than 99% of others out there!

>>102192292
Nijisanji controls Japan.

>>102191976
>couldn't
one game out of four. rumao

>>102192195
>settling
She has had 7 public streams 1 of which was her debut

>>102192325
What Kore kore actually said was
>Aqua was complaining about Cover overlapping her events (as Aqua)
As you would expect the whole "threatened" thing was another invention in this conversation that totally happened frfr.
It's not like the king of incel Pigs hasn't been on a harrasment campaign against these women for years already.

>>102192195
>She is settling around 20k
Just like how Nimi was getting 20k at around this time after debut?

>>102192158
What is there to discuss? You can only compare Saba to Saba because she mogs HoloEN that much.

>>102192363
You think debut buff isnt mostly over? Alright bet your balls if you have them
Predict the lowest number she will get in the next 2 months
If you predict above 12k you might as well just surrender your balls since that was her floor as gura

>>102192277
>>102192325
Yeah....but unlike his usual bite shit nothingburger, it turned out to be all of it real, confirmed by gaou and partially confirmed by sakuna by her actions that forced her to make changes.

>>102192387
Gaou didn't confirm that, the only parts he confirmed is what he did to minors and that there was a SAO collab for Aqua that never eventuated.

>>102191757
Should've streamed on Twitch

>>102192387
>it turned out to be all of it real
its not, and its not confirmed by gaou

>>102192386
She will get sub 10k within next year.

>>102192095
Different person. Different reasons. Not comparable.

>>102192323
mask off

>>102192383
>What is there to discuss?
The effect of timeslot on viewers? aren't we /numbers/ thread and not /shitpost/ thread?

https://x.com/momosuzunene/status/1944007676364828748
>less viewers in the hall than your typical saba stream
>small flower stand
Is this the best her fans can manage? Lmao

What's up with random Saba seethe?
Holokeks...

>>102192323
way to out yourself faggot

>>102192445
and yet youre unable to post proof or timestamp lmao
at least precedent is something, no one done a 180 so far

>>102192387
>I-ITS REAL GUYS!
>Didnt even quote the rrat properly

>>102192449
Feels like the only real numbers discussion here each day is about how ubiquitous botting is now ever since March. Otherwise, it's just shitposting about vtubers and way too frequently it's one guy have a conversation with himself where he's a mix between arguing with himself or felating himself.

>>102192447
>>102192465
Saba sold out hers instantly btw.
Why can't HoloEN do the same? I thought they were popular? Getting beaten by random indies? That's just sad.

>>102192459
Nene is so fucking cute

>>102192449
this is /uuu2/

>>102192449
"Just asking questions" is shitposting. It's a stupid question. Gura would disappear for weeks and out of nowhere put up a frame 4 hours before the stream and still mog everyone. And you think timeslot is the bigger factor?

>>102192522
Yeah can't even sell out her merch or a concert

>SABA PLEASE STREAM IN THE OTHER TIMESLOT BECAUSE IT GIVES BIGGER NUMBERS YOU SHOULD CARE ABOUT NUMBERS JUST LIKE MY BROWN MONKEY ASS DOES WHY ARE YOU NOT OBSESSED WITH NUMBERS???
Kek the fact that some people here are genuinely this mentally ill and unironically can't understand why she and people like her aren't mindbroken like them is genuinely funny.
You guys are like Jimmy with his delusions

>>102191883
No idea who she is but she had a full set of debut merch, in the style of holo anni/BD merch. Too professional to be just some random new indie

>>102192264
>smart
>saba
Stop lying to me

Only 6?
https://x.com/densonSK/status/1943943941205958755

>>102192462
It's non-stop no matter what Saba does, how high her numbers is or how safe she plays it. Getting 20k on a non-FOTM game, standard stream is a bad thing now. Saba streaming is a bad thing now (wasn't that their only beat stick against Gura?).

Vshojo is falling apart and the antis dramas would still rather seethe about Saba. Amazing.

>>102192514
>random indies
ligger please

>>102192572
Nigga you're as retarded

>>102192541
mogposting is shitposting and nobody said timeslot is the bigger factor

>>102192449
This is /saar/ general

>>102192352
Nimisanji

>>102192578
Here

>>102192590
>Sana
based

>>102192609

https://x.com/nameislevin/status/1943619396879999250
crats

o-ok

The decline of indie avengers needs to be studied

>>102192645
Thank you for the gift card saar please to have good day

To be honest Gura did talk a bunch about streaming earlier because she was more energetic earlier in the day and even did it a few times. Plus oftentimes she was visibly sleepy and tired by the end of her streams when she started at 8pm est.
There had to be a reason that was preventing her from changing to 5pm as Gura. Meetings earlier in the day? Homework? Cover forbidding it because that would be a brand risk? We just don't know. Maybe someone should just straight up ask her why she didn't change it before while she was in Hololive.
Either way as usual it's management's fault.

>>102192595
Ook ook number monkey

>>102192655
>hey gura why didnt you change your schedule before while you were in hololive

Homefield advantage for Bae
https://x.com/yayoiken1324/status/1944008173301452810
https://x.com/mangotaingo/status/1944012135765619116
https://x.com/chmmnch/status/1944001937873285393

>>102192673
where the fuck do you think you are retard

Looking forward to massive Holodrone seethe melty later today because of SabaDooby collab.

>>102192462
>>102192693
all you >>102191633

>>102192693
>SabaDooby collab
huh?

>>102192693
>looking forward to samefagging 284 times as both “true holiday” and “DA INDIE AVENGERS” before eventually just cuck posting
Translated for everyone’s pleasure

>>102192691
In a zoo visiting from towa and laughing at monkeys throwing shit at eachother

>>102192707
Thats why hes announcing it
Yes

>>102192715
you're in it right now retard, you're one of the monkeys

>>102192712
You speak filipino? Impressive

>>102192707
>>102192712
>corpofags already preseething
Kek

Was Dooby the lowest viewed POV on YouTube the entire time or did she eventually pass Doki?

>>102192727
I'm indian not a monkey

>>102192727
I'm not an autistic sperg who's obsessed with numbers tho

>>102192740
Because as always she has shit internet, and made other people to change POVs.

>>102192758
so you got banned in towers for being a schizo then you come her to continue
your pedestal is made out of shit, monkey

>>102192638
OHNONO THE JP NEWBIE IS GRIFTING

>>102192740
She passed Doki with the Saba funnel, but raided Doki over her again at the end at the end anyway

>>102192677
Saba has been pretty open with who she is though. Like referencing her own jokes and memes several times and even wanting to make a bit out of it. I think she might answer if asked.

>>102192655
It's as simple as knowing she'd be fucking over her fans expectations. "Gura" streamed at 8. Saba streams at 5.
It's shrimble. It's crabvious.

Why ex holos fail while ex nijis thrive?

>>102192817
because hololive is the best company
going from hololive to indie is a downgrade
Going from niji/phase to indie is an upgrade

>>102192740
raided into doki after dual streaming
fuck your numbers

I don’t know why people are taking the doomposting about Saba’s numbers seriously. Mouthwashing isn’t exactly a huge numbers game and she’s already stopped bleeding viewers over the course of streams (except to Nimi/Dooby overlap, but that always gonna be a thing). If her fans stayed loyal to her through her multiple month long streaming droughts, they aren’t gonna ditch her as an indie that actually streams. She’s only shedding debut tourists.

>>102192834
TRVKE
Saba Nimi and Dooby made a big mistake crossing and betraying Hololive
The traitors will pay

>>102192737
you are either a nijikek or a phasefag, but it doesnt matter who you are because i will redeem your card anyway

>>102192740
Tail

Can we somehow inform Cover and Yagoo that Dooby aka Hololive affiliate Amelia Watson is going to be collabing with traitor and betrayal today? Cover needs to stop this from happening or at least punish Amelia by firing her and removing her affiliate status.
This collusion with vile turncoats is unacceptable.

>>102192855
we don't care about nuances here. number go down = shit vtuber. simple as.

pls consider
learn to drop hate
invest in a smile
love will come
maybe you will like it
https://files.catbox.moe/gxnc9l.mp3

>>102192817
>>102192834
This, exnijis should band together and form their own group. They don't need those exholos runts to thrive.
Mint and doki should ask mysterio, twisty and the other exnijis to form the true avenger, they actually had a reason for revenge against nijisanji. They will show riku how it should be a true nijiEN leaded by mint, the biggest nijisanji fan of the west.

>>102192817
>ex nijis
only Doki and Mint

I can't believe that rere is still trying to push their inverted sakuna overlap shit this is the worst board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLC502O5eVA
I'm surprised they didn't do this sooner

>>102192914
if i wanted to smile i wouldn't be here

>>102192737
>>102192462
>>102192693
uh oh, Jellycuck meltdown.

>>102192646
>Signs of Kronii and Bae
Don't let /hirys/ see this

>>102192914
I used to love a chuuba once upon a time but nowadays I can't stand her.

I miss aqua so fucking much.....

>past thread lasted 6 full hours
>this one is 2 and a half hours old and didn't even hit bump limit yet
grim

>>102192978
who was it anon?

>>102192942
they seem pretty busy

>>102192990
biboo

>>102192942
GLOBAL GOLD 80K INCOMING

>>102192990
Vox

>>102192990
It was Ame.

>>102192855
Because she's beating the new face of HoloEN who's not only playing the gigabuff fotm slop but is also botted. And that makes cover drones seethe and shit themselves in anger.

>>102192988
This thread is still talking (translate: shitposting) about Saba almost half a day after her stream was over without anything particularly new happened. That should be enough to tell you that most older liveposters here aren't around anymore

>>102192072
>I remember you fags doing it for when she dropped from 20k peak as Gura and swearing it will never happen again
I have no fucking idea of who the fuck "you fags" is in this mental hallucination of yours because Gura always ranged between 14k and 18k for her regular streams, only beating 20k with assorted buffs

>>102192855
uhuh

>>102193030
anon i'm watching my wife right now

>>102193030
This thread is not one person and that person definitely is not that one schizo

I hope Saba will stabilise at comfy 5k after all the annoying tourists and numberfags fuck off so she could be less anxious.

https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1944022160743575808

>>102193034
We are not in disagreement. What I was saying is that this whole "omg she went below 20k she's never going back" shit was very common from shitposters in ...pretty much all of Gura's lifetime.

So how come Saba, Nimi and Dooby never get botted while Holos get botted constantly?
Really makes you wonder who's behind it huh?

>>102193079
>>102193076
ratsex

>>102193056
That simply isn't gonna happen, anon. Fucking Dooby's at 5k (with the twitch numbers). A mere timeslot change won't alter it, and the chumbud core of 10k stuck with her through any and all debuffs.

>>102192988
Schizo came back so enjoy the thread
Im out

>>102193056
that didn't stop the faunaschizo even after she graduated. shitposters will seethe on Saba till the end of the world.

>>102192855
Well, it actually helped that nimi and dooby had that hideous collab with exnijiwhores. I stayed watching her despite of already watched this game 3 times before.

>>102193080
>omg she went below 20k she's never going back
can you link me all the posts who said that instead of talking about her worrying bleed rate?

>>102193086
>Nimi
>Never get botted

WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE FOR SUPREMACY?!?!

>THE SIX MOST CELEBRATED CAPTAINS IN IN THE BIGGEST VTUBER COMPANY IN THE WORLD BY MARKET CAPITALZIATION, ARMED WITH THE BIGGEST SPORTS EVENT IN JAPAN AND UNLIMITED BUDGET FOR A FINE TUNED ENGINE?
>a meek office lady turned singer trying her best to navigate the difficult world of a 20 years old barely known video game?

THE ANSWER WILL CONFUSE; ANGER, BAFFLE YOU AND UNBRAID PEKORA'S HAIR

>>102193079
Did brrats scalp all the tickets to this one too?

https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1944026457854161254

>>102193080
I'm not disputing that either but that's such a low hanging fruit of the shitposting world it doesn't even warrant "debunking".

>>102193115
Nice Azkibots

>>102193086
anon...

https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1944026457854161254

>>102193093
Dooby has a bunch of sub 5ks what are you talking about

>>102193141
>Azkibots
It's hard to find a chart NATTIEST than this one right now. It's the biological vegan gluten free version of charts

So since Holos are allowed to invite indies as guests to their 3D lives now what are the chances Saba will be invited to any lives in the future? I think pretty high personally, Kiara will 100% get her for her next birthday's live.

>>102193152
First army!

>>102193115
The queen

Numbers predictions for Sabadooby stream?

>>102193166
is azki vegan

>>102193141
point where the bots are
is it the nanomachines in your schizo brain?

>>102193167
>So since Holos are allowed to invite indies as guests to their 3D lives now
>now
Anon? That's something that might go all the way back to 2021
>what are the chances Saba will be invited to any lives in the future
I would say very unlikely but who knows what the future reserves?

>>102193166
>steep unnatural incline followed by plateau with minor fluctuations
Yep obvious bots

>>102193119
>>102193152
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>102193152
told you they were gonna announce the guests later like last years

>>102191094
Wait i thought ligturd and niijinigger said she doesn't stream, wut?

>>102193157
>with the twitch number
Have you added her Twitch number yet? She has been dual streaming so you can't just look at her YT numbers only

see

>>102193166
ENsharts will say this is botted because they never saw a natty graph since advent.

>>102193184
yeah, she vegan for my nuts every night

>>102193184
I don't even think nips have a non loan word for it, they pretty much refuse to eat anything that didn't have a heartbeat 5 minutes prior preparation

>>102193141
She has 10k plus likes dumbass

>>102193181
nice

>>102193182
37k

Mariner 32k, Azki 31k

>>102193152
It's nothing but hololive on the twitter

>>102193214
絶対菜食主義者

>>102193152
Uh oh, those brrats will increase the price of their scalped tickets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXUbEH0DvSM
Great MV kanauru free

>>102193207
>>102193194
ENshart...

CGDCT won today

>>102193250
stop replying to yourself

>>102191024 (OP)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>40,066: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>30,375: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>27,684: Saba (Indie)
>27,017: Chiroru (Indie)
>24,562: Korone (Hololive)
>22,066: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,279: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>21,017: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,456: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)
>19,614: Doppio (Nijisanji)
>19,465: Leos (Nijisanji)
>18,906: Ange (Nijisanji)
>18,702: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>16,900: Pekora (Hololive)
>16,498: Pekora (Hololive)
>15,516: IRyS (Hololive)
>15,461: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,460: Watame (Hololive)
>13,473: Vivi (Hololive)
>12,513: Arion (AKA Virtual)
>12,432: Nimi (Indie)
>10,137: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,054: Calliope (Hololive)

>>102193208
fuck you towa

>>102192915
Ain't Mint like Hoshikawa in that she wanted to be a Holo but settled?

>>102191056
BIBLBOOOO

>>102191024 (OP)
JUL 2025 GOLD
>1) 103,545: Rai (nijisanji) important announcement collab [21]
>2) 127,309: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru quiz show [26]
>3) 38,815: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru survey [26]
>4) 48,246: Yubari Rei (indie) Debut stream [22]
>5) 39,528: Pekora (hololive) R.E.P.O. [31]
>6) 207,324: Nijisanji (nijisanji) MECHATU-A 1st 3DLive [41]
>7) 48,220: Pekora (hololive) NoePeko Tanabata [27]
>8) 60,006: Subaru (hololive) SubaKoro [23]
>9) 73,542: Hololive (hololive) holonatsu paradise [34]
>10) 63,121: Pekora (hololive) Important Announcement [25]
>11) 40,066: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [23]


> PER COMPANY
3x: nijisanji
7x: hololive
1x: indie

> PER STREAMER
3x: Subaru, Pekora
1x: Rai, Yubari Rei, Nijisanji, Hololive, Shiina

>>102193166
>stream capped
>natty
Ogey Neal fuck off

>>102193279
JUL 2025 SILVER
>1) 102,743: AZKi (hololive) 3D LIVE 7th Birthday
>2) 61,521: Saba (indie) 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS
>3) 36,801: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #6
>4) 45,619: Kagami (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>5) 39,259: Ex Albio (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>6) 99,759: Pekora (hololive) PekoMari w/ Vivi
>7) 47,236: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #7
>8) 57,442: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>9) 40,854: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>10) 41,691: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #8
>11) 30,375: Kanae (nijisanji) NijiKou2025


> PER COMPANY
2x: hololive
6x: nijisanji
3x: indie

> PER STREAMER
2x: Maimoto
1x: AZKi, Saba, Kagami, Ex Albio, Pekora, Tsukasa Tenkai, Kuzuha, Chiroru, Kanae

>>102193184
#今日のあずきごはん

COME ON

>>102193266
BIBBLB BIII BOOOBLLBBII BIII BA

>>102193297
JUL 2025 BRONZE
>1) 82,156: Marine (hololive) Subaru collab
>2) 31,577: Leos (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>3) 34,900: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>4) 44,544: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>5) 35,352: Miko (hololive) prophecy
>6) 61,618: Rena (nijisanji) SMC Gumi 6th anniversary
>7) 38,176: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>8) 54,099: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>9) 40,223: Pekora (hololive) Steam summer sale: gifting games to holomem
>10) 39,403: Lamy (hololive) holonatsuParadise BIG3
>11) 27,684: Saba (indie) STATIC DREAD


> PER COMPANY
4x: hololive
5x: nijisanji
2x: indie

> PER STREAMER
1x: Marine, Leos, Chiroru, Shiina, Miko, Rena, Shiina, Kuzuha, Pekora, Lamy, Saba

Was checking Oricon to see how IRyS's new EP fared on its first day in JP and found out they are still releasing Backstreet Boys music, WTH? (anniversary, admittedly, but still)

>>102193231
Ah, come on, I'll have to dispute your definition of "word" what that's pretty much a full sentence similar to
>strict adherent to vegetarianism

>>102192968
I still hate the fact I found out in a random /gif/ thread

>>102193152
are we forgetting the first guest
it'll be whole thing again where everyone talks about how good risu is at singing but they don't have nendos blah blah blah

https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2025-07-11/
reminder that holoshop now reports to oricon

>>102193256
>3/4 are hags
More like CHDCT

>>102192994
Yo so many empty seats. Its owari for holo en

>>102193311
JUL 2025 holoID
>1) 3,539: Zeta (Hitman 3)
>2) 3,835: Risu (DINKUM)
>3) 4,295: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>4) 4,188: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>5) 3,889: Kaela (Good Pizza, Great Pizza)
>6) 7,395: Kaela (PEAK)
>7) 8,519: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)
>8) 8,701: Risu (DINKUM) [2]
>9) 5,707: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)
>10) 6,850: Kaela (PEAK)
>11) 6,324: Kaela (PEAK)

> PER STREAMER
5x: Kaela
3x: Iofi
2x: Risu
1x: Zeta

>>102193306
Looks natty to me. Nips are shy and never ever like a stream, comment on it, chat in the live stream or even mention it to their friends and families preferring to consume the stream in airplane mode inside a faraday cage so not even electromagnetic waves can be detected during their stream enjoying!

Beautiful

>>102193332
>CHDCT
That's a good name anon

>>102192323
What happen to your
>Has cc sold out her limited merch yet?
Shitpost? It's got mysteriously dissappear as soon as it sold out, kek.

>>102193341
JUL 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,033: Hinano (VSPO) Zatsudan [21]
>2) 10,370: Koyori (hololive) Shadowverse WB [26]
>3) 10,093: Vivi (hololive) Minecraft [26]
>4) 11,476: Hinano (VSPO) Apex Legends w/ uruha, selly [22]
>5) 10,122: Vivi (hololive) Five Nights at Freddy's: Secret of the Mimic [31]
>6) 10,147: Lui (hololive) horserace betting [41]
>7) 10,855: AZKi (hololive) Minecraft [27]
>8) 10,063: Vivi (hololive) Minecraft [23]
>9) 10,142: Lui (hololive) Minecraft [34]
>10) 10,031: Towa (hololive) STREET FIGHTER 6 [25]
>11) 10,054: Calliope (hololive) Umamusume Pretty Derby [23]


> PER COMPANY
2x: VSPO
9x: hololive
0x: nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
3x: Vivi
2x: Hinano, Lui
1x: Koyori, AZKi, Towa, Calliope

>>102193264
No idea about whorekawa, but it doesn't look like, she is not into singing and dancing. She is just a close friend with haachama.
On the other hand mint already declared her loyalty to niggersanji before joining niji and wanted to expand the mindchair of nijisanji in the west.

Are we in genuine dribbling retard hours now?

>>102193352
>987yens
12 yens after Youtube and Riku cut

>>102192693
This is a nijisister btw, caught this retard seething in nijien.

>>102193376
JUL 2025 HIGHLANDER
>1) 103,545: Rai (nijisanji) important announcement collab
>2) 127,309: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru quiz show
>3) 36,801: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #6 [S]
>4) 48,246: Yubari Rei (indie) Debut stream
>5) 39,528: Pekora (hololive) R.E.P.O.
>6) 207,324: Nijisanji (nijisanji) MECHATU-A 1st 3DLive
>7) 47,236: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #7 [S]
>8) 57,442: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [S]
>9) 73,542: Hololive (hololive) holonatsu paradise opening
>10) 39,403: Lamy (hololive) holonatsuParadise BIG3 [B]
>11) 40,066: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025

> PER COMPANY
5x: nijisanji
4x: hololive

FWMC...

>>102193332
4/4

>>102193388
how bout that guy who has none? does he own Riku some yens?

>>102191024 (OP)
100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)

# of 100k streams last year: 58

>>102193329
old oricon numbers.

>whorekawa
of course it's the /jp/ schizo

>>102193309
Take my BIBLBOOO LOVE

>>102193403
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>102193352
king need more SC sisters

>>102193408
Yeah, that's why liver graduates have to pay Riku before they leave

>>102193423
he never left anon

>>102193433

>>102193329
>Only sold 1.6K copies from holoshop
>Cannot order anymore so that number won't rise over time
Solo live is still distant dream, eh?

>like 6 low quality Saba bait threads on catalog that were created at roughly the same time
New phase yab or just brownfeet again? Qrd?

>>102193433

>>102193461
One schizo

>>102193461
last tine i see catalog have more psam about saba going to mogged hololive threat
whay happened?

>>102193461
Mod should nuke it ip for giggle, then we could trace it. But my bet it's a nijinigger.

>>102193461
IRyS merch still not sold out

The usual bottertard couldn't resist to be called out again and softbotted Pippa yesterday. She got engined at 6 minutes in. Her real CCV was something very little above the 1k line.
Considering that Pippa still remains as their most popular member, every other member who was near or above that line was also softbotted.

https://x.com/irys_en/status/1944033371832955321

>>102191648
does BBN$ count as a latina?

>>102193454
Based CC beating the ex Nijileech
>>102193465
Mori and Suisei are so strong...

>>102193410
Pegor live + Marine Live + Maybe a summer stream + Maybe something else holo might be able to breach 48 by the end of 7th month which will leave 5 months to tie last years 58 and go beyond

holy fuck... this is Shiori tier

>>102193494
>Less than 500 sets left. Around 200 sets moved after the initial burst yesterday
Should be done in time.

>>102193403
they're looking into bots
hmmm

Cover shouldn’t completely remove the collab ban with ex holos, but instead put it on a timer. Like for 1-2 years after somebody graduates, holos cant collab with them, but after enough time they just gets treated like any other indie. This would still make graduations impactful, but lower resentment for the company among fans of departed talents, and perhaps more importantly, offer an entirely new type of numbers event potential. Can you imagine the hype of somebody like Kson doing a collab with her old genmates? You cannot convince me this is a bad idea.

>>102193527
Good job Rajesh

>>102193244
Man that's extremely well animated with style, and because it's this blend of 3D and 2D, it's probably a good deal cheaper than the fully hand-animated MVs produced for Marine

>>102193547
No one cares

>>102193512
It's a shilling stream, I doubt she was interested in it herself but she's getting paid for it

>>102193547
I'm sorry, but if you exit the walled garden that's on you
If you open it up to them, you're opening it up to every Tom, Dick, and Jerry
We already have too many outsiders

>>102193547
You did not convince me it was a good idea

qrd?

Why is rape culture so prevalent in hololive?
Is this the difference in direction?

>>102193616
pomu's birthday?

>>102193606
If Cover don't open it up to them, Cover is opening up black company allegations

>>102193616
she's crumbling under private stuff
idk if she can go on much longer

>>102193620
Gorosan is the most out of all of them that gets away with sexually harassing holomems

>>102193606
Holos are already allowed to collab with indies, nothing would change in that regard.

>>102193624
retard

>>102193624
nothing stopping holos from collabing with exholos using their pl

>>102193620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG9e4uErfYg
She gets all the pussies

>>102193606
Who are holos forbidden from collabing with, other than ex-holos?

>>102192379
>As aqua
It wasn't specified and timeline didn't make sense unless it was her as Sakuna around April-June 2025 considering gaou and his victim only started fucking again around that time.

it's somehow doing well

>>102193225
Hag supremacy!!

>>102193682
some whore from vshojo a few years back

>>102193624
Does this dumbass know about Sana and Kronii collab recently or is he acting oblivious?

>>102192136
>lock in like Nimi
Even Nimi took breaks because of her cats or a week for concert prep, and some 3-4 days mini-breaks that weren't as noticeable, but still there. You really gotta accept those girls are happy with the viewership they already have, anything above like 5k makes little difference to them because their core fanbase is still big enough to cover their expenses (and neither Nimi, Saba or Dooby are the type to buy mansions, they are on the frugal side). No one is gonna grind for the sake of "keeping numbers high", they will stream as much as they want to. Call it unfair that they still get rewarded for that if you want.

>>102193682
It's the principle
Stay in the walled garden, we make too many exceptions already

>>102193632
nah this anon is right >>102193623

>>102193698
English Songs Nip audience.... Idk what is cover thinking

>>102193745
Is this the unreal engine thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLxJKjGd618

>leave hololive
>immediately become a gross whore
wrao...

>>102193756
doesn't look like it

PICCOLO IS DYING AND YOU'RE ARGUING WITH SHIT FLINGING MONKEYS?? NOW GOKU WILL FIGHT VEGETA. SHOW SOME RESPECT AND WATCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx1RwNDNFMA

>>102193756
what do you mean?

>>102193623
she still thinking about her time with Luca huh
i get it, guys like him and Jurard are unforgettable

>>102193745
my wiferys

>>102193764
>CC doing dick/sex jokes
based
>indies doing dick/sex jokes
cringe

>>102193775
who?

>>102193775
trust the plan

>>102193799
piccolo? the green demon

>>102193620
>>102193681
>a 40+ year old senior caresses a couple of female coworkers in their 20s
This is literally diddy tier shit bros. fucking disgusting

>>102193745
are they performing live or is it being broadcasted from rising sun land

>>102193777
They piloted some new unreal engine tech for 3D lives a while back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc2owX4GFwA

>>102192136
Would be funny if over time nimi is the bigger Vtuber at least in terms of CCV and recognition simply because she's more motivated and Gura lost much of her JP fanbase in this indie transition, actually I think that gigantic subcount alone was her biggest achievement and she will probably never see this sort of numbers again. Chumbuds /here/ will deny this but saba is not really seen as the biggest Vtuber ever, just someone who used to be that if casuals we're talking about here are even aware of this so much of her prestige is gone forever.

>>102193813
this is hololive culture just like Mel with her manager

>>102193825
>Saba not the biggest
Dexerto begs to differ

>>102193819
Idk, I wasn't there

>>102193775

NOOOO PEDOCOLO

>>102193547
Ex-holos don't care that Cover needs them back, sorry.

Saba is just boring af t.b.h. I expected her to go back to unhinged Sen kino now that shes no longer shackled by a corpo but shes same fucking boring ass slop that barely screams, doesn't do edgy shit and never swears that she was in Hololive. Same reason why I dropped Nimi. Those bitches don't know how to be properly entertaining like other indies to save their lifes

IT'S HAPPENING

>holotards triggered again

oh nonono begetabros

>>102193902
they triggered what?

>>102193825
>Saba vs Nimi
Kill yourself phasecuck

>>102193547
HoloEN shouldn't be allowed to leech off indies.

>>102193887
>average twitter user be like

Feels like this entire board is currently being raided by like 2 pajeets from some discord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUwkvdq6zU&list=RDIaUwkvdq6zU&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUwkvdq6zU&list=RDIaUwkvdq6zU&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUwkvdq6zU&list=RDIaUwkvdq6zU&start_radio=1

>>102193916
A nuclear reaction that cannot be stopped

>>102193935
>currently

>>102193825
Saba WISHES something like that happened, and Nimi DREADS something like that happened, but sorry, no way.

>>102193836
holoculture is female on female

RAISE YOUR HANDS

>>102193941
>A nuclear reaction that cannot be stopped

>>102193966
I dont raise hands anymore

>>102193825
>motivated
Nimi is motivated to maintain her current pace of doing things, at most Saba might recline to her level but Nimi isn't trying to become a >20k CCV heavy hitter vtuber royalty.

>>102193932
cope, both /a/ and japanese approved that pedocolo is pedo.

>the fatty wins the day

So how do we save HoloEN anyway?

>>102193667
They should both be able to use the Cover IP

Krillin genki dama!

>>102193667
Nothing is stopping Holos from collabing with Nonholos aka Exholos

>>102193940
Is this AI generated? I don't remember her being able to sing this well

>>102194088
I am not 100% confident that there isn't some mega strict collab ban for ex-holos.

>>102194101
Zero proof

>>102194101
Kson collabed with Homo EN. Thats as much as youre getting

Good morning /#/. I love Jelly!

>>102194077
Is this Marine's first time going though DB? I won't believe that

>>102194101
If there is some *strict* ban (instead of something just in form), there would've been no reason that that wouldn't extend to their RMs

>>102194095
Just sounds heavy edited from her karaoke, she barely sounds like herself there.

>>102194101
rica ( mel exholo) gave collan with regloss i think last month

>>102191648
shes the crack in the walled garden

>>102194045
No one wants to collab with traitors

if Holo and ex Holo collab together, I think it'll be weird..

https://x.com/AWACS_Baudog/status/1943936685949301170
HOLOBOTS ARE REAL

>>102194133
On their rms which doesn't count

>>102194145
No currently active EN holos wants to collab with any en ex holos anyway
Why pretend being friendly with people that stabbed you in the back?

>>102194095
Nah the dude used vocals from her karaoke and mastered it using FL. Her vocals have improved significantly thats why pebbles are waiting for the upcoming covers lined up for her.

>>102194151
none of regloss has active rms anon

>>102191883
this girl's genius idea to pretend to be shion is amazing

Bejita roached

>>102194151
here ririka talking about the collabs

https://youtu.be/9_-uhglofHw?si=M9jJMV0_kxq_-D6b

>>102194205
>terminated
>not graduated
doesn't count

>>102194147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do0NgxNQcwo

Marine's stream endings are on another level

>>102194212
kson have collabed with holo talents too with no issues

>>102194205
Why didn't you post the collab stream itself?

>>102194230
>kson
she was terminated by chinks in Cover management disguising it as a graduation, was that supposed to be some gotcha?

>>102194125
no, but she only read the manga

>>102194212
now post nij sisters ex livers collabs

>>102194230
No she hasn't. Homos don't count cause their management clearly just ignores any directives from Cover and they're too small to cause a fuss

>>102194147
Praise the Omnissiah

>>102194133
Regloss is not hololive

>>102194286
Proof or are you just saying shit?

>>102191757
You guys talk as if Gura was an over 30k streamer, she will get 20k for buff content and 12k-15k for debuff shit like always once things slow down

>>102194307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPRzx4ny3AQ

>>102194308
Yes, ReGLOSS is a group within hololive Production. Specifically, they belong to a branch called "hololive DEV_IS". ReGLOSS is a music artist VTuber group, focusing on singing and dancing, and they aim to grow together with their fans and act as a proper idol group according to the VTuber Wiki.

>>102194205
So once again EN is playing by a whole different set of rules?

>>102194318
at this point of time nimi was still getting 20k+
she's a 4view stinker now without buffed funnels

PEAK CUTE

>>102194340
the rules are the same, most if not all EN holos just doesn't want to willingly collab with traitors

>>102194334
>HolostarsEN is a group within hololive Production. Specifically, they belong to a branch called "holostars".
That's how stupid you sound. Holostars isn't Hololive

>>102194366
I don't think Gura ever got a funnel

>>102194286
>they're too small to cause a fuss
yes that's OUR conclusion, not a fact because no one ever talk about it the same way no holos ever air their grievance towards hololive after leaving, tldr we don't have the Mysta of Hololive to leak shit

>>102192855
horror was always a buff for Gura she's not playing some JRPG part 6

>>102194382
>>102194396
You are so unfathomably retarded

>>102194382
>traitors
What is this nijispeak? Are holofags turning into nijisisters now?

>>102194340
i dont know anon but KSON have OFFline collabs with Choco, Mel and Calli IRL

>>102194382
Kiara would kill for a Saba or Nimi collab, though

>>102194409
>turning
>now

>>102194308
>Regloss is not hololive
>>102194396
you talking about REGLOSS

what a retaded you most be...

>>102194433
Mind saying that again in proper English?

>>102194409
>>102194428
>one minute
also wait, its the same angle in >>102192707 image

post that a chan pics for the above anon pls

>>102194462
no need for retaded like u

>>102194481
Any outfit would be better than her default.

>>102194418
kiara couldn't care less about people she couldn't leech from

https://youtu.be/WbSPvZQ0mkc
https://youtu.be/WbSPvZQ0mkc
https://youtu.be/WbSPvZQ0mkc

Wata-Vivi tete

>>102194544
It has been a very cute stream.

>>102194553
Fuck u helmir

Just watched doki's indie concert and its miles better than virtual vacation in terms of quality
Why did they cheaps out with nimi and gang bros?

>>102194583
Did she sell out?

>>102194308
>>102194334
Regloss is part of DEV_IS within Hololive, which is also within Holopro. so its not Regloss > Holopro, but Regloss > Hololive > Holopro

>>102194583
The production was insane for this. Did she re-upload the whole stream?

>>102194583
What even is Doki's theme? A cowboy with bird hair?

>>102194636
Saba approves Mint and Doki

>>102194652
transgender

>>102194607
Why don't you show the unedited picture?

>>102193667
Self respect

Chumkeks

>>102194636
what about mint, doki and dooby ccv?

>>102194636
For reference, that's what a real raid looks like in terms of % transfer.

>>102194583
virtual vacation is just very poorly produced, small corpo unironically puts out better shows than pic related.
One side is spending all their time and resources to put out the best show they could so they get more fans, and the other one is just milking the fans they have left with as little investment as possible.

>>102194583
It's obviously not dancing idiogoon

>>102194652
fat pigirl not a cowboy IRL

>>102194705
Nah, that's kinda low.

>>102194681
She should be careful being around Australian beaches at night.

>>102194652
Borderlands

>>102194726
Yes, that's how it always was. It's just so rare that we see a real raid nowadays.

virtual vacation is bad because it has nimi in it. simple as

>>102194754
False

>>102194671
here, doing it for the lurkers
https://youtu.be/Gi1XDNLdjpw?t=418

>>102194652
i thought she was a thief or something

>>102194690
avg / peak
>nimi
9,819 / 13,638
>dooby
3,393 / 3,905
>mint
3,978 / 4,461
>doki
3,190 / 3,999

Looks like the "avengers box" is shockingly tiny.

>>102194754
>Hololive bots
>nimi collabs its a raid

>>102194767
What are you saying that's false? Are you claiming she's botted?

>>102194715
Those bridge and trees has less polygons than doki's boots lmao.
Maybe if they sold all their seats they could afford an extra $100 to have someone on fiverr to model a proper stage for them

>>102194799
why doki low ccv i thought she going to be face of indie?

>>102194636
id leave too if i got raided into doki's constant laughing

hello

>>102194807
I'm sayin the raid rate is small, a lot of buds jumped out the redirect.

>>102194799
Compared to?

>>102194799
Saba overlapped them (because of course)

>>102194835
doki doesn't have thousands of mindless holodrones to grift from

>audden dicksuckingnto dookie just to call virtual vacation shit
interesting angle.

>>102194754
Kiara raided GG, and GG raided Biboo last night?

>>102194799
Uh anon, Saba was streaming to 19-20k people at the same time. Forgot someone in your "avengers box"

Also honestly, 20 fucking k is not shockingly tiny. HoloEN scrapes the same numbers in 4 person colalbs.

>>102194799
more ccv than the most recent Advent collab lol

>>102194838
This is so much hotter than insta asians

>>102194866
that's the entire avengers box though
meanwhile a first army event stream can get 100k+ easy

>>102194799
Their first collab was a giga flop

>>102194854
Holo vs Holo
>Holo vs Holo
Holo vs Holo
>Holo vs Holo
again

anyway HOLOLIVE ALWAYS WIN

>>102194905
Brother you JP tards have got to but out of these conversations. No one fucking cares, yes we know Pekora has 40k ccv, this is an EN vtubing discussion.

>>102194799
The nimisanji box

>>102194866
first full advent collab had 70k+ pretty sure

>>102194583
Didn't one of the indie girls say that they had to pay for rigging / production team by themselves and OshiSpark covered the rest (venue, licensing, merch, etc.)? Makes sense that they would cheap it out since Nimi and Doob asides, I doubt two indies had that much money to spare

>>102194931
cope

>>102194935
Dooby is not a nijikek

>>102194799
Real talk: you cannot convince holofags (ex or otherwise) to care about Doki and Mint. Their fanbase has been trying DAILY for 5 years, it will not work.

>>102194930
His image wasn't even holo vs holo you subhuman.

Ui no saba yes

>>102194938
(you) indie going to be mogging hololive FOR SURE

>>102194799
its basically Nimibox, and that with low overlap between Nimi and mint doki

>>102194931
>don't compare my chuubas with someone with better numbers
lmao, are you niggers lost? where do you think you are?

>>102194931
why you mad

>>102194938
Why would "first collab of a new gen" be your benchmark for what some ancient industry talents colalbing for the first time in a specific configuration (they've talked and collabed just not as this specific 4 person unit) be?

>>102194583
>>102194715
Why the fuck are you comparing a fully produced pre-recorded concert to a live one? Why is no one fucking correcting you?

>>102194999
we just want to shit on nimi so we're grasping at everything.

>>102194985
I mean what's the point. You tuned into a discussion about high grossing superhero movies, said "in China Ne Zha 2 sold one gorillion". Ok. We acknowledge it but no one was comparing the two, and we don't care.

>>102194985
>>102194991
None of you faggots even understand Japanese so stop comparing apples and oranges

>>102194999
Because doki's wasn't that and vv wasn't that?

Imagine needing to fall back to JP because your EN "Golden Gen" lost to a bunch of indies lel

>>102194799
This is their first collab ? If yes these are low fucking numbers

>jwu
>saba barely 20k after just a week
What happened? did she have to cut her stream short because of internet issues?
Even doki was able to get 23k+ two weeks in last year

>>102195026
co talked about nehza for months in relation to the death of american cartoons.

>>102195045
>Because doki's wasn't that
It was
>and VV wasn't that
It was

>>102195040
You keep your excuses for not doing reps for yourself

Reminder that their official name is GAY now as they talked among themselves, so you can't call them Indie Avengers anymore. No, Saba needs to join the collab first to be part of Indie Avengers(now called GAY)

>>102195064
>Their first collab got destroyed by advent first collab though

>>102194930
>5 hours vs 3 hours
Also Biboo’s raid to Kaela had 8k of 10k transfer, that shit was botted as fuck.

>>102194930
What about Saba vs Biboo

Avengers is brownspeak no sane person uses that unironically.

>>102194930
That anon said the "avenger's" box is tiny. But compared to what? That's the only purpose of the comparison. The EN audience pool isn't that big.

>>102195073
Anon what the fuck are you trying to contribute to this conversation, I do not understand. It's an EN vtubing numbers comparison. Who fuuuuucking cares what HoloJP is doing? Should we drag NijiJP into it too? They mog EN vtubers too.

>>102195107
>8k of 10k
That sounds normal

>>102195107
Really? It looked natty to me

>1.2M+ people supposedly click subscribe to her channel in the last week
>only 20k (1.5%) actually watches her after a week
What's up with that? sub bots?

>>102195127
He is kinda right, pathetic box for a first collab.

>>102195095
Small Corpo bros, we won

>>102195107
You should be cast as bizaaro for the next superman movie for such a retarded take.

>>102195137
It's not, it's usually ~50%

>>102195157
You aren't right. You're still retarded.

>>102195165
False

>>102195095
If saba joins it becomes GAYS. GAYS vs HOLO

>>102194972
>>102195165
same content raid gets better raid retention. see karaoke or debut relay raids for example

>>102195156
use the VOD numbers retard

>>102195137
>>102195138
If there was any room for doubt that Biboo’s stream was botted, you can put it to rest after this. Stop pretending to be retarded.

>>102195117
marine vs saba

>>102195136
I'm on his side just because of how you're acting

Phase will overtake ex holos in 2 months at this rate.

>>102195165
Leave this thread now.

>>102195127
what box ?
Naplings don't watch Doki or Mint.

>>102195193
>VOD cope
KEKARORORORO

>>102195204
Tf? is this angle

>>102195199
Looks fine, lot of plateaus.

>>102195156
How can anyone still try this angle in 2025? Who has an equivalent sub to ccv ratio

The rise and fall of Saba
Jul 2025 - Jul 2025

>>102195204
>>102195084

>>102195204
Phase already overtook Holos.

man i wish meidos were here more often to nuke shitposters ips so i can update the schizo tally

>>102195156
If you haven't realize from the fact that Gura's graduation announcement had higher ccv than her graduation or redebut, it's because people who subscribes to her are people who cares more about drama than her actual content.
Those 1.2M+ people are there for the when she streams or uploads a "why corpo is bad" statement, not her actual content

>>102195209
Thay don't watch doob either

>>102195209
Don't reply to me, tourist.

>Phase
mask off already

>>102195235
KEKAROOOOOOO

>>102195255
Anon...no one is getting even 10% of their subs to show to a CCV stream. What is wrong with you people?

Seriously speaking, the only disappointing thing about Saba is the confirmation we will never have MythMania numbers again in the west. Not even Gura resurrecting was enough to bring prime Gura numbers back.

>>102195156
although bots are very likely, it's probably because she moved to a different timeslot

>>102195259

this thread just got too brown it's not really funny anymore.

>>102195310
i thought pomu not going to quit nijiEN what happened sisters?

>>102195078
Doki's shit was canned animation and I have no idea why you'd think vv was live. Obvious tell is doing feet away interactions because they aren't sure on spacing

>>102193698
>daily
Eh, 3rd on daily chart isn't really much. Check its position on the weekly chart when it's out

>>102195297
>we
don't really know how things will be in the west past 5 years from now, how things will be in 10 years from now on the internet isn't clear

>>102195310
>raiding a stream that's ending
boy you sure showed us!

>>102194866
>>102194867
Neightreign box fucking mogs 20k lmao, but congrats you went even with the runt collab of people with wildly different timezones

Today, I will remind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYKrCAmKoOU

>>102195291
of course not if those subs are accumulated for years.
if you gained like 50k subs in a week, I'd expect at least 10% of those stayed to watch you live at least for a week.
It's completely understandable if theyre gone by the first or second month, but the first week?

https://youtu.be/pGkZkBZpPFI?si=0WBwPU0IX0N-Ia9Z

>>102195358
Neightreign is a buff game. Peak is slop, Emissary Zero is slop, better comparison.

>>102195356
>us
What a faggot kek

>>102195353
either way it's grim for vtubing as a whole. this industry has never seen a superstar for the last 5 years and the recent ones are just former stars redebuting under a new persona. it gonna get uglier when Yagoo graduates or Disney took interest at vtubing.

>>102195356

>>102195356
There's another one from this week and she still bleeds like a pig

Laplus is making rounds on normie twitter again

>>102195442
That wasn't a Nimi raid

>>102195228
Yeah, Youtube streamers are lucky if their CCV is even 1% of their subs. 5% would be an insane ratio.

>>102195381
You are retarded. CCV means CONCURRENT viewers, not total viewers.

>>102195442
D-d-doesn't count

>>102194671
Shitposting retards like you have drank your own koolaid for so long you don't even live in reality anymore

>>102195345
>Obvious tell is doing feet away interactions because they aren't sure on spacing
Why lie?
Nimi literally pushed back Dooby on accident because one of the two fucked up.

>>102194636
damn, that's really fucking poor raid retention
maybe overestimated the amount of overlap between kaniki and naplings

>>102195456
https://x.com/AikoMaiko3/status/1943974953541661041
she unironically makes the best bangers

>>102195209
true, i come with numbers

Part of the issue is Saba is genuinely kinda boring.
Talent freedom was supposed to bring out the best parts of her past personas but it seems likes committed even deeper to the seiso loli larp angle which leads to a pretty forgettable stream where she just reiterates whats happening on the screen or talks about mundane shit in her life.
An entertainer needs to entertain.

>>102195433
I think the current queens of JP would need to have graduated and moved on to non vtubing things for it to happen naturally and it would surely not happen immediately.
Music wise, Hololive is doing so great I think it's presence can't be challenged while gen 2-4 are active

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRZNrt1KvK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRZNrt1KvK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRZNrt1KvK0
CHAMMER TIEM

>>102194636
>chumtourists remain chumtourists
Wow!
Shocking!

>>102195530
>which leads to a pretty forgettable stream where she just reiterates whats happening on the screen or talks about mundane shit in her life.
This literally happens with Biboo over the course of 8 hours and people praise her so what gives

>>102195506
It's almost like saplings/naplings have just claimed this without any evidence for literal years or something...

>>102195476
>couldn't get 10% of the new subscribers you get to watch you live for the entire duration of the stream for at least a week
I think she has a serious retention issue

>>102195553
Because she has the blue dorito, something Saba will never have

By my estimations Saba's subs are about 60% bots which puts her at LESS subs than Biboo and even Shitwhori KEKKAROOOO
Cumfuckcucks gon melt hard lamao

>>102195530
i'm sorry that she didn't talk shit about Hololive after leaving as you wanted anon

>>102195553
because her life is interesting with her being in japan and frequently interacts with other members there working together to achieve something bigger than herself
There's a reason why ohasuba gets 30k+ ccv now and trending upwards year over year

>>102195595
Everyone say hi to skinwalker schizo

>>102195553
Biting bait but BAKUSHIIIIN

>>102195530
THIS. I was expecting the chaotic drunk gremlin back not this incel chud pedo pandering slop. Why even lesve holoshit at this point if you still going to pretend to be some seiso cringe shit??

>>102195639
>It's only interesting when she's talking about other holomembers
Really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLC502O5eVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLC502O5eVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLC502O5eVA
your EN gold for today

>>102195553
Beebs is funny af unlike the meme shark thorougbheit
She actually says funny memes and shit unlike your larping pedo pandering whiteoid

>>102195670
hell no

please spend your weekends doing more than shitposting

>>102195670
That’s not the Sabadooby frame