Are we witnessing to the downfall of one of the biggest vtubers in the world?
>Normies in rage at her too child-coded design, in particular the "tummy" toggle
>Had to change part of her intro due to said complaints
>Most of her videos already demonetized
>Sub growth suddenly stagnant meaning that Youtube removed her from the algorithm after the complaints and reports
Will the mackerel turn it around? What could she have done better to avoid this situation?

Manager that called her a brand risk is laughing his ass off right now.

I'm witnessing the most retarded thread on the catalog

>>102225554
spbp

>>102225508 (OP)
No.
>>102225554
Based.

>>102225508 (OP)
>>102225524
>Literally on cooldown samefaggotry
When will you learn spamsis?

>>102225508 (OP)
Every single day, there are 10+ Saba bait threads. Do you retards not get tired?
>>102225554
Tpbp

>>102225524
Fpbp lmao

>>102225508 (OP)
Could have stayed in Hololive. Could have taken it easy and be a mascot.

But nooooo she wanted more freedom & money

>>102225724
>>102225735
It looks like selenfag or jellycuck. One of those two.

>>102225508 (OP)
Karma comes eventually for everyone. It just moves slowly. Don't get overconfident and think that just because you're winning at one point you'll be winning forever. This is just another example of it.

>>102225508 (OP)
>Had to change part of her intro due to said complaints
Proof? Considering how aggressive youtube is with lewd anime things and how she kept the crying kanis in that same intro page which is what most people were complaining on twitter, it seems most likely that she did it for youtube not because of twitter
Unless, of course, she said something about it, that is the most straightforward explanation so it should be correct
>>102225524
>>102225756
>>102225817
it is a bit ridiculous how much time you spend seething...
>inb4 paint image
Sigh

>>102225508 (OP)
>>Normies in rage at her too child-coded design, in particular the "tummy" toggle
go back to twits, trannies
>youtube 4KIDS
move to Kick and Rumble and get better payout ratios.

The fear you have of her success is hilarious

>>102225554
Spbp

>>102225839
>it is a bit ridiculous how much time you spend seething...
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/vIby_ow61A0us37fU8_1ww/
21 results found
Glass houses.

>>102225508 (OP)
Brown hands typed this btw

>>102225861
>21 results
>of the same image
>meaning there was at least 21 threads (in reality much more) that you made and bumped for 8 hours
Meanwhile anon posts 1 image and fucks off
Imagine spending significantly over 21 work days shitposting in the 2 weeks since sabas debut
That is crazy work
Unpaid btw

>>102225524
>>102225756
>Gura jokes during her cum handcam stream that she expects a manager to send her a message saying "Gura you are now a brand risk"
>This is treated as if it's an actual thing a manager said and is repeated endlessly out of context for three straight years
Holy shit

>>102225508 (OP)
>Are we witnessing to the downfall
at least learn english, Saarr

>>102225924
Better than youres, Ahmed.

>>102225965
>youres

>>102225899
Its the classic issue with gura/saba
She's the biggest en vtuber and she's everything shitposters don't like (cute, funny, panders to her fans without feeling cringe about it, and doesn't hate them either)
At the same time despite streaming as gura for 5+ years and being under a magnifier glass during all that time as the biggest vtuber, she hasn't done a single wrong thing
That means they have nothing to grab on to insult her or make rrats, so they just make them wholesale from nothing
A quick reminder that they spent an entire month saying that she wouldn't have a loli model on her new debut, because the whole reason she graduated was because she hated her pedo fans ¡ btw
There's actually a massive graveyard of nonsensical rrats that saba has killed over the last 2 years, but they just keep making it up, as if anyone will ever believe them

>>102225899
>cum handcam
What? OwO

>>102225839
I don't even know why you're seething at the messengers. Let me list the facts:
1. Most of her content is currently demonitized
2. A lot of it is also shadowbanned
3. Her channel is likely affected too because her sub growth stalled but there's no way to check this
4. She's aware of it and changed her intro because YouTube isn't paying her right now

No amount of accusing people of being the same person changes this and people are free to discuss it because it's pretty fucking funny.

>>102226034
About as far from owo as it gets, actually. Dont worry about it

>>102225890
Didn't they get paid with a gift card from fishman or something?

>>102225508 (OP)
She makes like $200k a stream, the hell you on about?

>>102226040
>2. A lot of it is also shadowbanned
she has total 8 livestreams videos total. not including 1 members-only. what is "A lot shadowbanned"? how do you even get 200 000+ views while shadowbanned? you're retarded right?

why do you lie so much?

>>102225508 (OP)
>What could she have done better to avoid this situation?
Less child-coded design.

>>102226085
she'd rather lose some money than not pander to her fans
I love my fishe so much

>>102226094
She changed her intro

>>102225508 (OP)
>Will the mackerel turn it around?
Waters will calm down, but she has lost most of her momentum going for her.
That being said I don't feel too sad about it because I always found her streams very boring.

>>102225508 (OP)
Saba is doing fine, she literally made millions just off her debut merch alone. Seethe more though

>>102225508 (OP)
>What could she have done better to avoid this situation?
Stream on Twitch or Kick.

>>102226106
yeah otherwise she wouldve gotten banned from youtube, theres nothing she can do about that
The fact that she even risked it in the first place speaks of her love for us

>>102226094
This is not an onlus, anon.

>>102225899
oh this is where that "gura is a brand risk" moniker come from?
they gaslight themselves into believing this?

lol wtf is this thread, do you retard think she contacted the artist to make a new animation out of panic ? she clearly had 2 from the start and switched it, probably to laugh at (you) since she do belong here

>>102226094
The cope is insane.

>>102225996
>A quick reminder that they spent an entire month saying that she wouldn't have a loli model on her new debut, because the whole reason she graduated was because she hated her pedo fans
That was literally one anon, the outfitschizo. And you're a retarded nigger for not realizing it was a single schizoid faggot.
Also, she has done plenty of horrible shit. Mainly abandoning us (yes, US) for 5 months starting in August 2023 and never streaming for more than 100 hours per year in 2023 and 2024. She wouldn't even tell us why. She simply vanished. Right after telling us actions spoke louder than words. You don't treat people you love like that, no matter what.
She knew for years that she was graduating and yet strung everyone along. Her shitty song where she says she hated everything she did that her fans loved was icing on the shit cake that was her graduation.
I hope that things will be better now, but she is FAR from perfect. Frankly, the way she treated her genmates, fans, and hololive, after all of those things did so much for her is reprehensible.
Now call be a bootlicker like you do everyone because you have zero argument or defense. I'm ashamed to even call myself her fan here because of cuck shithead yesmen like you. Kill yourself.

>>102226190
Anon the changes to the part where she's drawing are pretty sloppy.

>>102226224
holy shit bro i say this for your own good, go outside once in a while

>>102226231
lol you made me check the stream
>2s later

>>102226276
What's the point of this post? Are you trying to gaslight me into believing there's no changes?

>>102226276
>she only changed some parts, not every part
NTA, but you are retarded. Maybe you should re-read the thread because you're repeating what other people said and then arguing that they said something different.

>>102226302
>>102226320
cope and dilate, not going to waste hour repeating the same post until you magicaly understand it

You schizos can ask the artist himself if you have twitter, you know.
https://x.com/DuDuLtv/status/1939290957091881252

>>102226337
If I had to decipher the hemorrhoid covered in diarrhea that is your post, I'd guess that you are trying to say that everything is fine because her tummy is still visible in a tiny part of the intro animation.
That was never the point, you smooth-brained mutant chimp. The thread was about her removing it from the prominent section as well as the awkward way she had the crayon/marker drawing changed to her using a compass.
How fucking retarded are you?

>>102226276
>big tummy window covered
>small tummy window left revealed
>now moving a compass on a parchment map (instead of drawing with crayons)
>kaniki folding a paypabote on the left (instead of crayon drawing of blue fish)

>>102225508 (OP)
I don't need the slight change of sprite in the opening segment to know that her journey to go back to the top will be mega challenging simply because she crossed the "safe loli" line

If she ONLY plans to stream and NOTHING ELSE, then there is no need of further discussion. But if she wants to surpass her Gura peak, there is the "safe loli" line that the current avatar is currently blocking her. By safe, I mean safe for the advertisers and promotions. There is a reason why it is easy to make a brand out of Gura but difficult for Saba. It's simply because the normies world has not accepted lolicons as a normal audience yet. You can cope with Rev and Twitter warriors and fight with the anti-lolis there, but in the outside world, they refuse to dip into the loli culture, at least in America where she is based at. Yeah she can stream, but what else? Can she make a 3D model out of it without a slight change for Youtube ToS? Can she join in VTuber cons to promote herself further? Will any VTubers outside of xhlgg choose to collab with her? Can she even appear in the Dodger stadium like Gura did?

She can stream, and that's great, but there are many other challenges that she will have to face and the 1 million subs milestone cannot help her solve that

>>102226456
Most "normies" look at characters like Saba that aren't overtly sexualised and just see a cute character. It's only projecting twitter freaks that are getting upset about her

>>102226337
lmaoooooo

>>102226482
I don't have a dog in this race but we both know what the "kani" shit is dog whistling and that advertisers won't be happy at YouTube if people find out about it and their ads are playing on her videos.
Claiming she's not aware of what she's doing is retarded.

>>102226456
I think that if she didn't want to commit too hard she wouldn't have gone as far as rebranding herself with merch, new model and other stuff and restream as Senzawa. She clearly likes the money.

>>102226564
I'm not saying she doesn't know what she's doing, I'm saying her character isn't overtly sexualized and most normal people don't see a small character and instantly think of child sex. The twitter freaks can cry as much as they want but Saba is going to be fine. Also there are PLENTY of loli characters that get advertising and sponsorships, so I don't know where you retards are getting the idea she isn't advertiser friendly

>>102226599
Because you can open inspect element and see that a bunch of her videos got demonitized which probably made her change the intro.

I can't believe she'd do this... She betrayed all us coombuds...

You guys hate to see Saba succeed so much that you are literally making up yabs in your head to try and discredit her. Take your meds and get some help.

>>102225508 (OP)
Talking about downfall is a bit hyperbolic, unless there's some real drama, but she definitely lost some traction going in her favor.

>>102225508 (OP)
Woke leftists got at her. She will most likely recover from this but she has to say farewell to her debut momentum.

>>102225554
spbp
If picrel is a "downfall" then our standards for self-destruction have never been lower

How does YT demonetization works? Does she stop getting income from the flagged videos altogether? Is the income being counted during the live itself or is there a date when she gets a final income? Not sure if I expressed myself correctly.

>>102226670
It's one or two browns that have been spamming her split and now made this thread.