Now Spread 'Em Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/Motonomi_/status/1941347696666870228

VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak

Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussion

Previous Thread: >>102259348

Anon below me is a vshojo

Henya for president

So the merch system is still fucking bad huh? What have they been doing all this time?

who are worse:
>mousefags
>silverfags
>the one singular arispammer
>ss deaths head battalions

take me back

Do not mention the status of Zen, Henya, Ari, and Mouse's friendship below this line
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>>102268788
arisperg, poal it, bot is ready

Man, whats the deal with Ari's collabs with Mouse and Henya but not Zen

Zen, Henya, Ari, and Mouse friendship status?

>>102268794
We all have a favorite past

>>102268794
amalee ruined everything

Friendship status of Henya and Zen !!?!??!?!

Can't believe zen is such a piece of shit, no way Henya did anything that warranted that

Please Zen. Expose Ari so that we'll never have to see her again.

>>102268794
Why do you hate Michi?

>>102268870
I have a feeling Henya refused to bounce on it

>>102268883
This. I want to see her exposed(naked).

>>102268884
Michi is lame and a waste of a pick up. Wow, another retard, so cool.

>>102268897
>Wow, another retard, so cool.
this but unironically

>>102268884
who?

Talk about Amalee backshots you retards

>>102268923
Amalee Meet and Fuck with Melody at Anime Expo After Dark

Amalee leaving as soon as her contract is up will be so funny.

>Take Nijisanji talents
>become Nijisanji
well, that's funny

>>102268970
But enough about Hololive

>>102268943
gotta keep hour eyes peeled 1 year after her debut, if vshojo lasts that long

>>102268788
zenfags 2 view squatters

https://poal.me/ismwrv

ok so imagine this: you are a 14 year old woman who just lost her shoes and socks and now the elevator you’re in malfunctions and is stuck for at least 8 hours. who would you rather spend that time with:
Quentin Tarantino
Dan Schneider
Jeffrey Epstein
Ted Bundy
a mousefag

>>102268892
heavenly chose zen and got cucked by ellum of all people

>>102269032
Bots have been deployed.

>>102268994
Hmm maybe the industry being build off from a male dominated management and female talents wasn't that good.
Too much clique shit, drama and shit that only makes the industry worse by the year

>>102269052
its bots if they dont agree with me.......

I blame Mel for not speaking she’s the one responsible for Vshojo she should say say something and not let mouse do it. Every vtuber org have their senior who’s the spokeperson, tardwrangler, wise or experienced. In vshojos case it’s Mel and Mel spend her entire time either gooning or smoking weed. She needs to step up and put the boss hat for once and should stop pretending like she’s retarded.

>>102269078
Unironically yes. My opinion is the correct one.

>>102269032
Zen, you won't like this poll

>Everyone waiting to see what VShojo's cooking
>VShojo:

>>102269099
OK, Asmon

>>102268923
I don't see any cum there
Must be a weak shot

>>102269160
>I don't see any cum there
Then fix it

>>102269032
Glad to see the majority of you guys still love Zen. I was losing faith in the thread for awhile.

So why did Arielle stop hanging out with her 2view friends?

Vshojo should just take the L and partner with a merch store, its clearly very hard to unfuck it otherwise

>>102269191
It's not Zen's fault. It's Ari.

>>102269191
hahah, really botted it, couldn't make it more obvious when Yes was leading 12 to 3 then suddenly it's 15 to 12 kekkk

>>102269121
I don't give a shit that he's doing this, but it disgusts me that he's doing it because social media exists

>>102269191
very male coded face

>>102269227
Wrong, kill yourself.

>>102269191
when is he revealing his voice? it's getting silly

>>102268923
Ama facesitting

>>102269238
seriously, that was the most lame botting .. even hololive botting is doing a better job kek

>>102269324
Incorrect, end your life.

Mousefag thread.

>>102269303
Literally built for it. That time she said her ass was too fat to wear jorts lives rent free in my head. I've seen her con pics, she is not lying.

>>102269195
gotta pull the ladder after you climbed it

I can't believe Mouse has been betrayed 109 times, she's never done anything bad ever.

>>102269424
she's just that unlucky

>>102269497
tabs

>>102269497
Ama's tits got way bigger

>>102269497
I actually forget Nijisanji exists sometimes these days.

>>102269032
We’re barely 40 users in this thread who are you trying to fool?

>>102269497
Cool mouse pic

>>102268484
Ah yes, the guy whose only experience with female-to-female relationships was watching immature high school girls from a side had to put his valuable two cents in

Lmao Geega is talking about the daily froot poster

>>102269617
That certainly was one of the takes of all time

PLEASE STREAM AGAIN FROOT WE MISS YOU!!!

>>102269734
Idk love
There might be a whole new group of antis waiting, thanks to someone.

>>102269768
Her antis are eternal unfortunately. Even Nyan's antis weren't as persistent.

>>102269768
All of her British friends abandoned her. Do you perhaps think it may be Froot's fault?

>>102269805
The amount of Nyan haters is inversely correlated with the size of her boobs.

>>102269617
Geega HATES Froot

Important

https://x.com/LeeandLie/status/1944857094647373838

4skinz (the ogs) are so back

I'm watching Vei.

>>102269840
>a bunch of british weirdos
I'm not so sure

>>102270091
It's crazy to think this after they all supported her through the Google doc. Hung out irl to comfort her, etc. Perhaps you Frootfags deserve a longer hiatus.

>>102270157
Kill yourself simon

>>102270157
she's not coming back bro

>>102270006
Ama more like Dumba

>>102270091
So they suddenly become weirdos when they're not on her side anymore?

>>102270233
nobody but you said suddendly

I am so happy that my oshi in phase never has to deal with stupid shit like this.

>>102270233
Love my EU indies, but also zen and shylily dominate EU hours because they are the most stable and consistent vtubers in that timeframe. Which should say a lot.

>>102270284
nobody said they were weirdos before except for the anti-lgbt schizos

>>102270325
hell yeah

>>102270233
crying about her rejection on twitter was kinda wierd

>>102270420
reframing what actually happened to fit your narrative is kinda weird

Not this loop again. We don't have any fuckin info from either side so making a judgment call is retarded. And all of the EU vtubers mentioned are really fucking close with Katie and have been for years before Froot really got to know them through her while the ones that are less close still follow Froot.

>>102270448
As if that's ever stopped us before.

froot made katie drop a lot to be with her and then she ghosted katie, that's what happened, it's not rocket science.

>>102270233
>>102270367
I wouldn’t call Katie a weirdo, but she is very menhera
Remember that she did some pretty nasty suicidebaiting not long ago

Froot would be hotter if she was evil, kind of like Elira.

>>102270441
there i no possible reading of katie's post other than her getting rejected by froot after prying too much into her life unwelcome

>>102270325
I know you're just trolling but I'm a fan of Lia and I thank the stars that she has her own thread.
I feel bad for Froot's comeback since I can tell there will be a lot of antis around everywhere (not just here, but in comments, her chat) but it will fizzle over eventually

Speaking of Fraiki I want her to step on me.

I'd be watching Zentreya right now but she isn't streaming today so I am watching Vei.

>>102270492
was elira actually evil?

>>102270602
I don't know. There's too many rrats around her from too many people who clearly just want to kill Niji and don't care how it happens.

>>102270497
>there is no possible reading of katie's post other than
The bias is strong

>>102270671
i know a menhera woman so i'm an expert

>>102270602
My dick says yes.

>>102270680
>let me project my singular personal experience onto others

>>102270614
>There's too many rrats around her from too many people who clearly just want to kill Niji and don't care how it happens.
they are just like us

>>102270690
have you actually read the tweet
https://x.com/obkatiekat/status/1919554338302636499
it's not ambiguous at all. she's mad that froot didn't like her as much as she does froot.

>>102270157
>Hung out irl to comfort her, etc
?
they hung out ONCE at a con, which was way before the doc dropped
the Vshojo girls stopped everything they were doing and did a call to comfort Froot, can't same the same about the "nasty" girls

>>102269497
They named a vshojo jp gen after her

>>102270595
imagine watching someone who can't stack text animations

>>102270518
>I feel bad for Froot's comeback since I can tell there will be a lot of antis around everywhere
I doubt it, the antis from the google doc period long switched targets
at worst we'll only get the regular schizos here

>>102270719
Yes, I have read the tweet. It reads like a friend betrayed her baseline expectations, not that she was rejected.

>>102270831
That's somehwat reassuring at least. I just wanna see her play with Nagi

>>102270481
so Katie is way too clingy and pries too much into other peoples' life?

>>102270844
expectations for what

>Roxy met Aethel and Nyan at Ross's party
PINK LOVE LIVES

>>102270864
Maybe Froot just randomly stopped talking to her. It seems on par considering what other girls have said. Nobody in the org even knows what's going on with her.

>>102270864
friendship

>>102270873
The one where Numi brought the robot so Mouse could hang out? Cute

This thread has a huge problem of not thinking their streamers can be the in the wrong. Unless they leave.

Mata said she'll be able to discuss the last 6 months more directly by the end of the year "once more things happen"

Froot got preggers and is only just feeling comfortable enough to stream again after having the baby

>>102270918
Thanks Mata. We really appreciate it.

>>102270918
>once more things happen
Either is VShojo dying, or she's putting a lawsuit

This thread has a huge problem of not posting lewds.

>>102270918
Timestamp?

>>102270937
those were not prego hands

>>102270873
>>102270903
yes the one connor was too lazy to bring mouse to so numi had to do it for him

>>102270918
Anyone who makes a post like this without a timestamp is just doing it to rile shit up. She's talking about future projects for her once more things happen. That or she was also apparently talking to a lawyer to find out what she can and can't say about her termination, and the reason for that is entirely because of everyone rrating that it was merch related and having that be the narrative can be damaging to her ability to work with others when it's not true.

>>102270918
Counting the days to throw shade
This bitch is evil lmao

>>102271025
that doesn't happen to all pregnant women

>>102270983
imagine trying to beat a dead nijisanji horse for the same to happen to you later...

The only good ones in this org are the Japanese minus Kson

>>102270918
and once again: you can get girl out of niji, but not niji out o her

>>102271084
Are you trying to summon the schizo?

>>102271056
I love evil bitches

>>102270877
>friend doesn't talk to you for a few months
>make a rage post on twitter and cancel them
is that the theory you're going with, because that doesn't make any sense. adults don't act like that.

>>102270937
Has it even been 9 months? She vanished at the end of November and we're only middle of July.

>>102271104
I'm just stating a fact

https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1944870916757840095
>It wasnt about merch
>Vshojo apparently was stopping the girls from officially working with merch groups and artists for con merch
I know its how they get their cut but maybe the merch should suck less ass if they dont want people looking for different avenues

>>102271081
esl.jpg

>>102271133
It's always merch .jpg

>>102271048
I mean, also she said there were reasons for her departure and was obviously put on an NDA, which only increased speculation, and you fucks threw her to the wolves by saying "she's greedy about merch", of course she would look for the time to talk about it before people speculate everything about her.

>>102270937
Froot was absent 9 months because she was the baby

>>102271133
>>102271161
It's always money.

>>102271133
that sounds more like she wants people she was previously working with to contact her on her new business email so their correspondence doesnt get lost in the transition, it doesnt really say what you're implying at all

>>102271113
That's a different person who replied to you by the way. This was my answer to you >>102270888

>>102271133
Now this will be interesting
hopefully Zen doesn't get scammed now

>>102271195
Do you maybe think that they can only talk about merch because everything else is under NDA?

>vshojo mocks nijisanji's imminent collapse
>nijisanji doesn't collapse but instead vshojo is collapsing now
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

>>102271048
So it’s nothing?

>>102271133
>Vshojo apparently was stopping the girls
do you know how contracts work? get a fucking job, leech

>>102271199
>If you... tried reaching out in the past
>tried
She would've already done something like this if she could've

>>102271133
VShojo had exclusivity with Senpai Squad and V1 tech for merch if they didn't sold their own.
The Convention stuff is so damn weird, it's like they actively avoided most conventions, and for sure they would be invited for more stuff.
Funnily enough only Mouse got out of this shit.

>>102271133
People here are just awful at making rrats. Take a look at Zen's profile. That's a new e-mail address. Anyone wanting to work with Zen needs to change the address they're contacting and that's what Zen's saying.
>>102271215
Pretty much. At least, if there is something she wasn't talking about it.

>>102271048
I'm the guy that posted it, I don't know how to post timestamps. I'm sorry my internet deficiencies riled you up.

>>102271227
Get a merch team that doesn't crash and burn for 4 years straight

>>102271247
That has always existed. Zen has it on her Twitch profile

>>102271195
Money doesn't explain going out of your way to unfollow Mouse, Gunrun, and Henya. There were evidently other reasons as well.

>>102271247
I guess she quit UTA then?

>>102271210
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. It's just Money.

>>102271133
meanwhile Gamersupps be like
>you want to do merch with other companies?
>no problem btw here's that merch you wanted us to do
>let us know if you want to do something else

>>102271262
You can't make timestamps of her streams anyways because she doesn't have live VODs enabled

>>102271133
that tweet doesn't really support your assumption.

>>102271280
Ok just ignore everything the 6 leavers said about NDA. Surely it's nothing. When vshojo disbands, they'll be kumbaya and say how great they were instead of airing out everything wrong with it.

>>102271234
if someone emailed her before she left and she wasnt able to get back to them before her vshojo business email was defunct, that would be someone trying to reach out to her in the past

>>102271272
Anon, 4 staff members have left, one went directly into the same field. There's some shit business decisions being made.
The Mouse and Henya stuff is just something between them that wouldn't have happened if the stuff from June had not happened

>>102271274
>>102271269

>>102271272
Time will tell, these sociopaths will never fail to show their teeth sooner or later but it's not worth it to try to understand or be in the shoes of the mentally ill.

>>102271299
Everyone signs NDA's anon. The only reason other ex-corpos don't talk about NDA's are because they're under an entirely different identity from their corpo identity.

>>102271328
I never said there were anything wrong with NDAs. I just think it's stupid to attribute all of their problems to money when they have clearly stated there were many other problems.

>>102271288
Are you tourists or something? So many talents had merch with different companies while in Vshojo that this rrat doesn't make any sense.
Zen is probably just taking a look at what people offer her.

>>102271304
I would not interpret "in the past" as "within the last 3 days since I officially left Vshojo". Even if it extends a week prior to that since she stopped having meetings, to me it reads as she's gotten a lot of pitches in the past for official Zentreya con merch not handled by Vshojo, and they got turned down.

>>102271288
The fuck does Gamersupps have to do with anything, retard? That’s an energy drink company, not a talent agency.

>>102271344
>when they have clearly stated there were many other problems.
name the things they stated, go on

>>102271355
Vague because it's under NDA.

>>102271346
>So many talents had merch with different companies while in Vshojo
But not con merch. Not a con table. Nothing at cons that isnt handled by Vshojo or Senpai Squad, and we know how much Zen loves cons and always wanted to do more there.

>>102271364
so nothing, then

>>102271380
See? You're doing it again.

>>102271386
the only thing happening yet again is you not stating the things you were asked to state

>>102271393
>They can't talk about the issues because it's under NDA so there is no problem. Everything is fine in vshojo. Please don't mind the fire.

The NDA says it's illegal to insult or disparage Mouse.

>>102271376
It's so weird they never partnered up with people like MosoBox or skipped AnimeNYC

>>102271355
Geega would tear VShojo a new asshole if she wasn't silenced by the NDA.
>>102268643

>>102271406
>when they have clearly stated there were many other problems

>>102271416
SURELY

>anons amazed that an industry of people performing under secret identities has NDAs
where are you niggas from

>>102271437
Be careful Henya bro. They'll turn on you too.

>>102271247
ooh she removed the UTA email

>>102271437
just like when Vei said she's gonna tear Nux a new asshole and then ended up apologizing to him

HOLY F SPITE
https://x.com/SpiteVtuber/status/1944825449126695095

>>102271450
This, most of the members are extremely happy with VShojo. Zen, Mata, and Geega are just being drama queens for pity points.

>>102271416
>Geega brags for literally an entire year about how she spent months and months in negotiation with Vshojo to get the perfect contract that best suits her interests.
>Darn guys, if only that pesky contract wasn't holding me back!

Anyway in other news I got recommended a Numi and Michi clip and this comment made me laugh

>>102271350
>That’s an energy drink company
were you under a rock or something?
they've been doing various vtuber merch for quite some time now that's not just drinks

>>102271416
If she's so smart, she'd find a way out of it.

If Mouse leaves vshojo. Would the people here still defend vshojo or shit on Mouse? Are they the same people?

>>102271468
To be fair, all of Vshojo bent the knee to Nux

>>102271564
there are tribalfags that came here with exnijis that furiously defend anyone that's in Vshojo while shitting on anybody that left

>>102271578
yeah, but Vei was the only one talking a big game

>>102271505
Geega literally ran ALL of the behind the scenes business processes of VShojo by herself while playing GTA when she was /in/. With her gone the company can no longer function which is why it seems like nothing is happening. If Geega was still /in/ the auditions and Minecraft server would have happened by now.

>>102271564
Silvercuck would celebrate it as a victory for Vshojo, then samefag as a mousefag and go back to shitting on the remaining members.

>>102271578
Nux won
Vshojo lost

>>102271413
You made me curious and I looked up "Mosobox Vshojo" to see what came up and found this from (I think) early 2023 https://shop.moso.moe/going-forward/
I dont have all the context since I wasn't paying attention at the time but I guess the girls were working with MosoBox before Vshojo and then over the course of several months there were confusing talks about making more merch of the girls.
Mouse, Silver, Nyan, Froot, Melody, and Zen all worked with MosoBox prior to Vshojo forming, and then after it formed they all gave permission to Gunrun to act on their behalf and close their accounts with MosoBox. Maybe a bit odd.

>>102271468
You are comparing getting issues with some fag that most likely was stopped by VShojo to avoid creating more drama to a company.

>>102271601
If Geega was still /in/ she'd be spending even more time ERPing with Peppo, you absolute clownshow

>>102271617
It's from like early 2021. I remember it happening really early on I think they were still with SharkRobot at the time.

>>102271416
Note that the thing she is talking about here is 'organizational disfunction' in vshojo in relation to events and merch, not that she would be willing to spill the beans about mouse and zen if only the contract werent holding her back

>>102271489
>wolf girl has giant honkers irl
it keeps happening

>>102271607
Quit projecting, sindercuck, you aint slick

>>102271649
She clearly stated in her exit that the problems were with vshojo and not the girls. So I don't know what you fags are even mad about. Why the fuck do you guys care about the corp so much?

>>102271640
Oh whoops, you're right. Looked at the wrong place for the time. Also

>>102271489
Meh. Also /lig/.

>>102271649
It's like people don't even know relationships exist. Geega wouldn't "tear VShojo a new asshole" over minor shit because her friends are still in it and if she did so they would be negatively affected by it. It'd have to be something really fucking big to attempt to burn a bridge THAT hard.

Same goes for Mata too. Anyone claiming that an ex-member is just waiting to spill the beans is full of shit. except for maybe the 2023 leavers because they didn't get to know any of the newer members lol

Anons think it's Vshojo's fault that Zen signed a contract that controls the IP regarding merch.
People need to find a job with a contract signing.

>>102271617
They were moved to SharkRobot
Like with many things with VShojo, this decision was shit because they ended up having issues with SharkRobot, and MosoBox got better
They also used to have Haruka pre her joining
https://x.com/MosoBox/status/1942718040644415717.

>>102271682
the phrase "Talent Freedom" has been making catalogfags seethe for about 5 years now, no one knows why

>>102271715
lol I mean the booth is bigger but I actually know most of the standees in the 2022 pic and the only one I know for 2025 is Pillowdear and that's entirely because of catalog threads getting made about her

So, is Mata just being discreet about moving into Geega's guest room? Eastern Canada to NYC/Jersey?

yeah, I don't see how anyone of a decent size would want to join given these exits and the ambiguity around them

>>102271578
Total Nux dominance.

>>102271795
Has she moved?

>>102271795
Geega's so anal about opsec she wouldn't even dare to live in the same place as Matara "Let me just say my real first name so I don't have to keep saying Matara in this story" Kan

>>102271767
I mean that's different from the talents they are doing merch for, those were the ones invited to join their meet and greet.
Most meet and greets were handled by GamerSupps this year.

>>102271795
tabs, no one knows.

>>102271720
And it has caused the collapse of Vshojo.

>>102271795
She hasn't said if it was GEEGA's house. If their internet goes out one day, maybe we will know.
She said it's a female vtuber and they will be soon on a handcam.

>>102271720
There is a subsection of the hololive audience that are deranged and retarded enough to believe that vshojo is an organization that was created with the intent to poach holos. While these idiots are a fraction of the total audience for hololive on /vt/, there are still about as many of them than there are us.

>>102271843
sure thing, 2 more weeks

>>102271821
Lol, I must have missed that stream.

>>102271796
Why would you need anyone with decent size when you have the biggest and most popular vtuber already in Vshojo? The agency just need more flavorful content creators.

>>102271682
Why do you care about it that much when there are numerous vtuber corps that have far worse contracts and conditions than vshojo?

>>102271849
So it's not geega then.

>>102271865
vshojo got saba?

>>102271849
Oh, the Geegler isn't doing hands so that rules her out.

>>102271866
What are you even talking about?

>>102271878
Saba wouldn't touch this shitshow. She's far too smart for that.

geega has 2 years worth of projects she promised to do when she joined vshojo is she going to do them now as indie?

>>102271812
She has "two houses" rn.
She's still looking for a place for her and her parents, but she's basically moved out to the US for whatever it is her project for her anniversary. Her mom and step dad are still on Canada, they are going to visit her real soon and be on her stream for a handcam

>>102271849
The ghost of Giri's old house?

>>102271910
Best she can do is more GTA.

>>102271859
Wish I could remember which stream but it was really fucking funny. But there's a couple posts referencing it >>87526106 >>86973975

>>102271910
Of course. Vshojo was holding her back with behind the scenes bullshit that would only benefit the company instead of her directly.

"When we were traveling like 30 years ago, 40 years ago." What is she saying, that's literally before she was born.

Does anyone have the thread where bunny Henya debuted. I wanna see if I can make that outfit in Koikatsu inbetween work

>>102271720
Unironically that slogan has to be the dumbest moves of VShojo by keeping it, it's meaningless now. It was good, probably on 2020, but it certainly caused more issues the further they kept it. Luckily no talent has been greedy enough to fucking put a lawsuit like the "Redbull gives you Wings" guy

>>102271934
isnt a new server coming?

>>102271913
outside of my opinion of her in general, if this is true then she's a fucking moron to move to America right now, even visiting is a bad idea. literally the dumbest move a woman could make, what reason does she give for it

>>102272080
Right now with the tariffs and everything else, it is probably awful to do business outside of the US.

>>102272050
>Luckily no talent has been greedy enough to fucking put a lawsuit like the "Redbull gives you Wings" guy
That lawsuit wasnt for the redbull gives wings slogan, it was for a specific commercial which showed a person failing to gain energy from coffee then being empowered by redbull. The lawsuit successfully argued this specific commercial as false advertising because in reality redbull has less caffeine than coffee. Theres a reason the rest of the 'gives you wings' commercials still play.

Zen is still taking Wednesdays off and I thought it was funny to see these two posts side by side on my timeline

>>102272080
Yeah, I'd rather bike across Iran than step foot on American soil.

>>102272177
>no management
>Vshojo is still dragging her into meetings
When will they accept their failures and let her grow?

>>102272208
>VShojo still making Zen go to Wednesday meetings even after she left
The blackest of black companies

>>102272177
Wednesdays are when Zen has custody.

>>102271796
>these exits and the ambiguity around them
Yeah, they need to make some kind of statement or something just to clear the fucking air. Even if nothing terrible has happened with people leaving and no answers it just makes the viewers of those that remain confused and concerned. Just look at what it's done to this shithole. The stuff with Zen and the highschool drama rrats that's spawned is whatever, but Panini and MTD leaving is what bothers me. Are they restructuring and going in a new direction? Were they scooped up by another corpo?
What in the actual shit is really happening?

>>102272080
Anyone and everyone should be fleeing America right now, it's beyond a third world nation at this point. Vshojo is probably abandoning the market and restructuring as a Japanese company and trying to get all their talent that matters out of the country. Unfortunate that it's so expensive to relocate Mouse, but I trust their decision to abandon her.

>>102272100
sorry that this dips a bit into a different board but she's at real physical risk as a female non-citizen in the usa. they don't care if you're white anymore you can still be detained over nothing
>>102272179
I live in a canadian tourist town and it's twice as busy as usual so yeah we're not the odd ones out. couldn't pay me to cross the border and bait being arrested purely for being a leaf

>>102272292
>being arrested
That'd likely be your best case scenario.

>all the leavers were left in or relocated to America
>Vshojo is relocating everyone else out of the country for their safety

Is Mouse still pretending she's not dating Connor?

>>102272369
Easy to pretend when it is true.

>>102272369
She needs to flee the country.

Vshojo's collapse is a precursor to the destruction of America.

>>102271203
yea she wrongly expected froot to be her best friend but froot didn't like her as much. that's literally what the tweet says.

>>102272439
Thank goodness Froot is in the UK instead of America.

Better times...
https://youtu.be/QPTnI4kypp4

>>102272439
so Katie is even more autistic than Froot and can't gauge her actual relationships with other people? then throws a hissy fit when she learns reality is not the same to what her mind thinks it is?

>>102272517
Sounds like a certain cyberpunk rocker dragon

>>102272517
that is my theory

>>102271989
>>100251550
>>100226754

>>102272430
Gunrun isn't the type to go down alone. Better to burn bright, than fade away.

>>102272560
Nice timing because Henya live

>>102272585
I just wish they'd start a nuclear war first and get wiped off the map. Really put a fork in it and call it done

>>102272508
This feels a little like when pink love died.

Henry live

>>102272624
Never. Ever. Compare Zenya sisterly love to that fake fucking shit.

>Henya goes live
>thread suddenly goes quite
You fucking hentais, shitting up the thread.

>>102272773

>>102272773
yeah, and? Going to do anyhting about it, zenfaggot?

im excited for Bloodborne and model debut in 2 days, mouse wouldn't be a selfish bitch and push it again for the 4th time?

>>102272980
She can and will, retard.

As long as Ironmouse is happy, that's all that matters.

>>102272980
>selfish
imagine being so selfish you DEMAND to hold her accountable when she can be sick

2 minutes in

you deserved this

>>102273224
I hope Arielle joins Mouse for her bloodborne marathon by staying in the VC 24/7 :)

>be Mata and Geega
>be part of Vshojo
>it does nothing for you
>you have to do the work yourself
>they suck at everything
>invite all your friends and tell them to join
I dunno, fellas. The math just ain’t mathing for me.

>>102273403
booooo get better material

>>102273403
It adds up because Aethel and Arielle would rather kill themselves before joining now.

At least we can debut normal gens like a normal corpo now that Zen is gone.

Cant believe silvervale would do this

>>102273450
Mouse is right there.

Geega's stream died. Matara still live. They're not living together.

>>102273516
Mouse was always pro-zerg tactics, and Zen wanted to keep VShojo an exclusive orbiter incest club.

>>102273423
Would you recommend your friends join an awful company that sucks?

>>102273568
Mouse doesn't want gens, Zen didn't want known talent.

>>102273543
Mata is in Cali anon

>>102273621
Mouse will be upset

>>102273580
>hey, join this group in the short term and take them for all they're worth
>you'll get a free model, assets, and you just leave a year later
>sure it'll be shitty merch and endless meetings, but you'll get a bump in viewers coming in and going out
Yes.

>>102273403
Something went wrong between the auditions and Mata being fired, mainly the merch stuff from 2023-2024 which is huge to not overlook it, and Mata wasn't the only one who was pissed off, Michi and Kuro expressed their annoyance at it. Also, the company is going through a huge shift as it lately due to several staff leaving and the venture capital.
Stuff basically went to shit quickly, and everyone is going out.

Geega smiled and her stream died

>>102273740
>Michi and Kuro expressed their annoyance at it
You can't say that bro. Only the leavers were complaining about it.

that is deleted but the >her comments stay up

>>102273195
shes always shes.not special

>>102273743
She got news that Vshojo is going under, freeing her from NDA restrictions. She cut her own internet to start planning the stream, and so she didn't spill everything out in an unorganized and childlike way. She wants to remain completely professional.

I love the SEA people

>>102273870
Aquaman is the most boring superhero ever

all in reading is that the leavers are greedy cunts and giving mel the finger

>>102273812
The >her comments are entirely within the rules. Doxing a vtubers is directly AGAINST the rules.

Panini will make her own VShojo

>>102274067
She's a freelance manager. She's making her own Mythic.

I think I may like the hgame Mel will be playing tonight.

>>102274136
No one cares about the ethot.

>>102274067
With blackjack and hookers!

Henya talking about raiding into Michi for her subathon, even though she never raided Zen.

So how come, even outside here, I see everyone bring up that Zen and Mouse unfollowed each other, but I rarely see anyone bring up that Zen also unfollowed Henya? Is it because it muddies the "mouse is the villain" narrative and makes whatever is going on behind the scenes more complicated, and possibly even means Zen might be the problem?

>>102274271
It's not Zen, Mouse or Henya. It's Ari.

>>102274271
Zen unfollowing Henya is newly found

>>102274256
It's becoming increasingly obvious that Henya is a bad person.

>>102274271
People already did, it was on Twitch only, nothing else. Someone posted that they day she did it, it was the day Zen autohost had her in a collab with Mouse. And Zen had already commented about Henya during a Mecha Break collab, where her words probably refer to her choosing to stay more in the side of Mouse.

Boring thread
Boring schizos
Boring loops

>>102274271
Because the people bringing it up are people who are here and that's the narrative they're pushing.

Mouse don't forget to post a short about your new song releasing.

>>102274361
Kill yourself, armchair manager.

I will place all my faith in Henya being a good person, so that if she doesn't, I can then leave this horrible hobby.

>>102274271
>and possibly even means Zen might be the problem?
And that's why Zen did it that way with the Twitter block being more public. It was calculated and foul.
>Zen blocks Mouse on twitter
>Uh-oh everything is Mouse's fault
>If Zen blocked Henya on twitter
>Zen is a monster

>>102274271
>>102274328
Also, I don't really think there's a problematic person nor blame any of the other, there was a problem between Mouse and Zen, and that extended to other people who had in common, but not all of them. In some sense, friendships don't last, people can be cowards to address elephants in the room, and we end up where we end up. It's sad, but it's life.

I think Zen's mental would go worse if she stayed in a friendship she doesn't like how she's being treated. And the other shouldn't be forced to act in ways they don't want to for said person.

>>102274430
Blocking Mouse was a smokescreen to cover up the Henya unfollow.

ok who's the one with witchery

>>102274420
I'm almost out. There are only 3 vtubers that I watch now.

>>102274659
In a sea of horrible news these last several weeks this is a ray of sunshine.

Mel live on CB/fansly/OF for day two of her stream-a-thon.

>>102274711
https://files.catbox.moe/wud029.png
You know, I thought the Mel in that starting soon screen was a bit more naked and it turns out I was right. It's not terribly explicit but I might as well play it safe.

So can anyone confirm if connor was ever following gunrun? i find hard to believe he never followed him considering even joey and garnt do... this would pretty much confirm gunrun did something to upset mouse since you now he even unfollowed silver when that happened.

>>102274677
Which 3

>>102274677
Knowing how the whole exodus went thought before, it will be fine. Who really knows what the future awaits. Also, that kinda thought me that I felt a bit parasocial about these interactions bit natural since it came from the COVID era that fucked me over
I think it is for the best of everyone's mental, yeah yeah >who incoming, but I did see that Silver was better after doing basically the same. Sometimes some of that shit depressed them more.
Although it must suck to be Pink Love fan, get depressed and go into Zenya, that must fucking suck yeah...
>>102274793
He did, wtf did he unfollowed, lol?

>>102274799
Geega Lyra Grimmi

>>102274832
Just checked and he is not following him on twitter anymore...

>>102274793
Considering he was pretty friendly with Gunrun that is an interesting and worrying development.

>>102273907
>>99394683
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").

But saying something about what Matara has openly admitted to on stream is doxxing

>>102274860
Damn, that kinda sucks. But probably will be something related to this week shit

Uh oh. Is this thread gonna shit on Mouse after she leaves or will it continue to defend VShojo? Stay tuned.

>>102274271
because its the same people on here who are bringing elsewhere

>>102274947
>is this thread gonna shit on Mouse
holy tourism

These arms look so uncanny.

>>102274947
This thread will likely evolve to /xvsj/ + /vsj+/ or /mouse/

>>102274947
I shit on Mata because she’s been a fake bitch since the times before the before times
I shit on Geega because she’s an annoying know-it-all who isn’t half as smart as she thinks she is
I shit on Zen because she’s Zenhera and the auditions were a fucking stupid idea
I will no shit on Mouse for I have no reason to

>>102275018
already is /mouse and sometimes melody/

>>102275041
>I will no shit on Mouse for I have no reason to
lol

>>102275041
I shit on mouse so i can cuck Bubi with my scat fetish

I assume this was already posted, but I'm lazy and don't wanna check previous threads.

https://x.com/Nikkun07/status/1944847552089874511

>>102275133
This comic makes a good point.

>>102275133
yeah pretty much

I don't know how often people check but if we assume Monke unfollowing Gun is recent then I think it is pretty safe to assume part of what has had Mouse so nervous. The odds Mouse is staying with Vshojo are looking more and more grim.

>>102275184
If she leaves its gg for the org
The only thing I would feel sad is about NOVA

>>102275184
People literally never check is the problem. It's just people looking for things to rrat about

>>102275184
anon your way to obesseed with who follows who

>>102274271
why is it the assumption that zen unfollwed then and not the other way around?

>>102275255
?
no one is talking about Zen lol

>>102275255
Because Mouse literally almost never unfollows people. Like it is actually a problem for her. She even still has Nux added as a stream friend.

>>102275255
this >>102275278
and also Mouse is still following her on twitch and that cannot be said about Zen

>>102275276
check the post I replied to, friend

>>102275313
Oh I thought it was to the gunrun stuff, my bad g

>>102275184
It should be noted Monke said he had plans to stream last night as did Mouse. Then absolutely nothing from either of them all day. Now this.

>>102274793
was he ever following him?
I remember check way back and he was never on his following list of mutuals
Is there a way to check on twitter shit like this?

>>102274271
zen unfollowed henya approximately 10 hours ago, the mouse unfollow was 2 weeks ago. you know about the mouse unfollow because the information is moving at the speed of /vt/catalog

>>102275406
I mean they were pretty close through mouse, tech, and vshojo parties, etc. It is highly unlikely he wasn't following him but my memory is shit so I can't say for sure.

https://files.catbox.moe/ys5cs6.png
Mel is looking at lewd art but forgot to add the names of the artists. I hope she does add them because I really need to know who did that naked Mel covered in cream in the top right.

>>102275469
yeah it pretty weird if he was and now not
because everyone who has left staff/talent is still following him besides Zen

I think now is a good time to end the group. It was a fun 5 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pBo-GL9SRg

>>102274793
Connor is also not following Vshojo but I definitely have no idea if he was ever following them to begin with so might mean nothing.

>>102275420
Nah, the Zen and Henya was noticed by you guys 10 hours ago.
Someone posted it 12 hours ago
I noticed it on Saturday, but didn't say anything. I also know of the autohost, because I also posted it about, and noticed when it went from Henya to Saiiren.

>>102275585
Sorry not 12 hours ago, 24 hours ago
>>102244470

>>102275557
It is weird to unfollow Gunrun, VShojo I kinda get since he would unfollow an account that tweets every so often.
But Gunrun seems more personal, dude tweets like every month at best

Praying that the monsoons hitting Japan don't knock out any of Mel's streams this week.

so is any of this zen v mouse shit confirmed or just rrat or people noticing things

>>102275666
rrat

>>102275666
Literally just people noticing things. Anything at all people say is rrating and should be ignored without a direct statement, which does not currently exist.

@everyone stream starting soon

>>102275618
>someone posts the truth
>immediately told to fuck off
never change /voms/fags.

>>102275618
yeah thats why I think its pretty weird so I dont think he was ever following him

>>102275666
its all rrats based on twitter/twitch unfollows
a very vague Zen conversation on stream and Mouse being sad about something that can be personal shit for all it can be

>>102275406
I mean even if there's no proof, he follows MTD and Panini, he definitely followed Gunrun.

>>102275698
I mean they don't like baits, seems fair.
And I still think it was the autohost stuff, I don't think is nothing more tho

>>102274859
mingling with the swarm....geckos....

>>102275696
at least we know ari can't ruin this stream for once.

>>102275710
very strange then since literally everyone who left is following him besides Zen

>>102274659
I hexed her to get pregnant but ill take broken pc

>>102275043
It's neither, it's just shitposters, schizos and sometimes both but esl.

Mouse please use racing princess or demon princess.

this is just malding about those who left thread now

>>102275752
Camila about to be replaced

>>102275800
Wait until people find out who Mowtendoo unfollowed

Broos i nuked my follow on twitter because my TL has been messy and wanted to just follow our plusses, so anyone got mei alt I forgot to save the name!

>>102275776
Yeah, it's a situation where if there's smoke there's fire. And well

>>102274793
I remember connor wanted gun to move to Japan.

>>102275825
>people
you mean subhuman tourists

>>102275844
Mei alt is dead. It's only the main now

this is just the malding about those who left tourists thread now

>>102275825
my wigga still follows NOVA, I know he recognizes the realest

>>102275844
we don't talk about traitors here

So, in which trumpet are we

>>102275794
dm her or r0xy
mouse stream soon to announce the blood borne marathon being canceled due to personal life issues and candi collab later.

You know if it really is Gunrun it would explain more about Mouse being so heartbroken. He did so much for her to convince her to join Vshojo. Mouse even was fine with him visiting to help set up her computer originally. He was a large part of the IDF walks and everything.

>>102275916
he follows all the jp

https://files.catbox.moe/5s07qp.png
The artist truly managed to capture the essence of Mel's cooking ability.

>>102275992
how come mel isn't heartbroken then. you just focus on mouse. vshojo is mel's

>>102276028
Mel has been checked out for years

>>102276028
shes masterbaiting alot to make her brain mush and ignore the bad stuff.

>>102275776
Backpacks ain't cutting it.

>>102276039
bruh

>>102276028
Also Kson
You don't think she'll jump ship and start attacking it imminently if there was something she didnt like

>>102276081
We know from Henya that JP are in their own with Loutlot.
Dude could honestly spin them off, make SuperNOVA and take them as daisenpais.

Will Mouse promote her song as much as she did the Bibinos song? Will Mouse talk at all about what has been bothering her? Will she spam collabs or horse game instead of DS2, 33, or fanart? Find out now.

Rat live

>>102275982
>candi collab later.
I love Mouse and Candi together but Mouse just one solo stream.

>>102276175
>just one solo stream
At this point Mouse owes us at least a couple of weeks of solo streams. There's been hardly any outside of marathons this entire year.

The only thing that explains why Mouse is heartbroken is she is /out/ after vshojo refused whatever she stood up for herself over.

>>102275710
It's also very probable that, given all the Conner related events Gun would go to with Mouse on a stick, I imagine Conner just has his personal number. And since Gun almost never posts on Twitter, Conner may have just never given him a follow in the first place.

>>102275794
Those or even normal Decora.
Just something non chibi

>>102276147
She should, but she's so critical of herself, she probably won't
that bitch

>>102276202
and the ones that have happen are random new fotm games instead of multiple planned games/events

>>102276301
I'm tired of decora

>>102276147
Still no youtube short mentioning the song release

Mel is going to end stream to update her drivers and will be back in a couple minutes.

Mouse, Henya, and Gunrin were on the list.

>>102275758
watch her pc start working again magically kek

>>102276147
candi is back so collabs

How's been Movie night on Mouse's discord?
Does she plan to do more?

>>102276351
I love sitting Decora.
Decora is was he comfort model but not she's just using the chibi one.

>>102276361
THERE'S NO LIST!

>>102276401
She was going to do one today as well as stream but I'm not sure if she will now.
I hope Mouse does more supporter streams and not just watchalongs.
Some games she can't play on stream would be fun.

>>102276355
I appreciate Mel keeping the mood during the downtime.

>>102276450
I'd rather she do more actual streams instead of pay walling even more of her content.

Mouse is sexy

>>102276472
I don't think that qualifies as content, that's just hanging out.

I think GunRun is dead.

Is it possible to check is the song is doing good on spotify?

>>102276472
it is disappointing that she didn't record the manila concert for us, then fantastic reality is apparently going to be paid but nothing yet and her own concert is again going to be paid.

Henya should do a discord comic lo group reading

>>102276369
Mario kart

>>102276552
I believe it takes an entire day of the song being out before you can see the amount of plays.

>>102276472
I like supporter streams they are more cozy and Mouse can be more herself.

>>102276534
don geega sent her regards to him

>>102276472
lol poorfag

>>102276403
we've had mostly decora for a whole year

>>102276301
gooner mindset

>>102276403
You will only get chibi's from now on.
She no longer wants to be sexualized

>>102276609
it became Mouse's main model, its the only one to have more than 2 chibi versions

Well she's playing the song but no official announcement on stream yet.

>>102276403
you just to want to jack off to her model kek

>>102276609
I would live Racing or Demon Princess.

>>102276557
There's a parallel world where she's doing that, and now I'm pissed I'm not there

>>102276472
holokeks have member streams.....

>>102276472
I would rather get at least something for being a sub or patreon.
Mouse used to do patreon exclusive streams but we have not had one in years.

>multiple people asking what this is or saying mouse is leaking the song
This is why you need to stop half assing your song releases Mouse.

>>102276554
bbinos doesn't do stuff for free blame him.

>>102276659
I mean decora is pure sex and Mouse loves Decora, its like a win win.

>>102276703
And I would rather there be less things taking away from consistent streams. I couldn't care less about extra stuff for paying shit.

I need a lyric sheet this shit is angelic

>>102276710
bbinos didn't do a tiktok to for this song

>>102276740
Mouse streams plenty quit bitching.
Don't like paid streams don't watch but people deserve something for supporting and its normal for creators to do exclusive content.

new thread
>>102276779
>>102276779
>>102276779

>>102276795
You support because you want to support Mouse. You deserve absolutely nothing.

>>102276740
this sounds insane considering mouse is the vtuber with the most hours streamed

>>102276818
And you deserve nothing either.

>>102276818
melty