you're oshi

marimari, she talks like a fucking creep

Pretty much All of phase (except Clio) seem too methodically grifter. I know all vtubers are grifters by nature but their whole personas just give me those vibes the most.

>>102320106
Also got gangbanged by 5 guys in a motel

Kumo gives me major ick

>>102320019 (OP)
Menace

>>102320294
Not gonna lie I loved xis ear licking shit the most but then he turned into a loli or something and its dogshit now

>>102320294
More like major dick

>>102320019 (OP)
Outside of the obvious ones (Kirsche, Elira, Pippa, Mori, Sinder, Suisei) i always skip collabs involving Shylilly, she always sounds shady asf

>>102320685
Never liked him, now he wants to be a little girl being fucked by her big brother.

>>102320753
Based list

Honestly just everything about Lumi, she grifts harder than any other tuber about being this sheltered girl who's never even met a man irl, claims she's a 10/10 in looks and that she likes warhammer, in reality she's a college slut who went through entire football teams before she settled for the one with the biggest cock and lowest standards, even after accidentally showing her boyfriend on stream she still lies and pretends she's single and lonely and hates men, just absolutely pathetic and is a disgrace to vtubing as a whole.

>>102320019 (OP)
The original ick

>>102320233
gross

>>102320169
Because they're all fake as fuck with the clear intention to deceive.
It's no different from the GFEchuubas waves a couple years ago. Who didn't just merely have a secret boyfriend but were outright the most cartoonishly exaggerated moneygrubbing whores who were disgusted by their own fans to the point that they couldn't even keep up their own LARP for long.

>>102321860
Mmm used brother's chair...

>>102320294
Is "she" really a troon or this tweet was just a joke?
Honestly I wouldn't be able to tell by "her" voice (assuming it's not a voice changer)

>>102321860
Where is she now? Didn't she run off with a paypig that basically bought her out of SEA to become his sex slave?

eck?

>>102320019 (OP)
why would anyone get the ick from lumi.
she is schizo
she sounds cute
she can sing
and has a cute model

what's so 'ick' about that/

>>102324646
ick on eck, is a faggot that posts on /pol/.
one day ick on eck is gonna ack, unless he repents

>>102320019 (OP)
saba, something about her screams fake and calculating, like she sold her soul for money and fame

Bao and shylilly, i find it strange how they killed sinder in the way they did, was likely planned character assassination

Ironmouse, everything i have heared coupled with her vibe tells me shes a bitch

the phase connect CEO

The hololive CEO

Kiara, shes a narcissist

nimi, shes very clearly in it just for the money

any vtuber currently in nijisanji

henya, Shes ''fake nice'' probably a bitch behind the scenes

pipkin pippa, she cares for nothing but herself

Rin penrose, performative activism over the kirsche Gsupps drama tells me she is one of those girls who would hold up a refugees welcome sign

pillow dear, she feels fake, like its all a poorly executed act

himemiya rie, her entire online persona feels fake and she is unlikeable in a ''this person grew up in a mansion so they cannot relate with other humans'' vibe

Filian, everything she does is calculating, she likes to bully people on stream with borderline dox info

FWMC, their desperation with numbers and their whole online person is just off putting

Zentraya, despite likely being a man they flipped their lid over being ignored by ironmouse, likely not a very mentally stable person

Shondo, She constantly attacks other vtubers while do the things she attacks them for

Male vtubers in general, they give off a weird vibe, its like finding a letter written in crayon in your mailbox, many are also unironic sex pests who get off on inflicting mental pain on vtuber fans by collabing with their oshis

the vtards girls, everyone knew they were fake from the beginning and now they're already fighting amongst themselves

vedal, he very clearly does it for the female attention and his fans are one of if the worst in all of vtubing

Pekora, very obviously a massive number/fame faggot, would probably backstab someone for 1000 new viewers

Clara from phase connect, openly dislikes some of her coworkers simply for their political views

Kirsche, she is two faced, when ever she gets into a drama she tries to drag phase connect into it, she is type of person to pick a fight with someone and then expect you to back her up

Shiori, before hololive she did a lot of NTR roleplay streams, i can only assume her recent male collabs were done with malicious intent

lucy pyre, the fact she comments under sabas posts all the time, and her anger at hololive winning awards at the vtuber awards, tells me she isnt in vtuber for the fun of it, shes in it for the money

Mint fantome, she is a ruthless ladder climber that will use anyone and anything to further her career

>>102325347
forgot my image

>>102325347
I appreciate this guy for shitting on everyone equally

>>102325347
The Clara one is funny because Jelly is woke as shit too, Clara only hates her because she's genuinely unlikeable

>>102320169
Airi, Tenma and Clara are fine.

>>102325347
Promos good

>>102325768
Tenma is boring.

>>102325347
Holy based

>>102326035
That's valid but being boring is not the same as being a grifter.

>>102320084
>you are oshi

squ

>>102325347

>ruthless ladder climber
what a thrill

>>102320019 (OP)
Ironmouse

>>102325347
>reddit spacing

>>102326232
Why does she racemix bait so much

>>102326301
Based. Kill them all. We only need one ultimate vtuber anyway.

>>102325347
first time i heard about ironmouse i heard she had some medical problems. since then i've always assumed people watch her out of pity

>>102325347
Now this is a free thinker who shits on everyone equally

>>102325283
Lumi is perfect

>>102325347
now this is giga based, the reality is vtubers survive off a cult of personality, they aren't perfect people

>>102326763
of course, she's mine

>>102325347
I have a list, too
>mint fantome
she is fake and calculating, opportunistic
>kiara takanashi
she is narcissistic and entitled
>nerissa ravencroft
hangs around mint and kiara, so probably secretly a bitch
>shiori novella
comes off as narcissistic and manipulative
>mori calliope
corpo mouthpiece, fake
>raora panthera
seems like a slut, get weird vibes from her

>>102325347
>>102326896
lo, you guys just described female nature, and think its something new.

narcissism
being cold and calculating
selling their souls
being bitches
killing off competition, through character assassinations
greedy
being fake nice
being fake, in general
etc, all of what you've described is basically female nature.

you guys aren't wrong, but the problem is that you fail to understand that that is just women being women.
we love them in spite of what they are.

PillowDear. Dunno why but I sense really bad energy from her.

>>102325347
Goddamn, we got an immerhater in here

>>102327002
some don't give off vibes that are that smelly and gross

Flamenco

>>102327066
that's because you still haven't seen them when they're being themselves.

>>102322622
its a full blown man
https://x.com/kumogorogoro/status/1575067728997601281

>>102325347
Based list
>ruthless ladder climber that will use anyone and anything to further her career
Applies to Dokibird as well

>>102320169
>vibes
go back.

>>102327066
Those are the ones you need to be careful of the most.

>>102320019 (OP)

Is this the one who has a boyfriend?

The one who did a Rushia and exposed her boyfriend to the world while playing Oblivion of all things?

The one who went to a "engineering seminar" in Spain?

The one who didn't stream on Valentine's Day because she was sick but then that too turned out to be a lie?

That one?

Kaneko Lumi?

>>102327487
Damn. I was enjoying the asmr I saw from them on saturday. Well anyway, onto the next new thing.

>>102320753
The only holo/holo adjacent people that should ever give you the ick is Rushia/Mikeneko, no one else.

>>102325347
holy schizo

>>102320233
wasn't a gangbang, we ran train

>>102320019 (OP)
never liked gura, mumei, or magni
i think they all had the same aura

>>102328284
What does it matter, if you liked it? You’re giving up something you enjoyed instantly because of this? lmao

>>102325347
a lot of NTR roleplay streams... sounds good to me

>>102328785
Men with penises are not women.

>>102327487
Fucking ew

>>102325347
I admire your dedication, but you should take a break from the internet for a while.

>>102320019 (OP)
all male vtubers honestly

>>102327066
t. Never been around women

>>102327655
i think some people who don't come off as shitty people genuinely can be good, there are probably some bad actors or people who can put on a good face, but I trust my intuition about certain people being bad

>>102331009
especially when i have paid close attention to their words and actions

>>102328785
Hi Kumo, kill yourself. You've self admitted to using 4chan

>>102320019 (OP)
jelly hoshiumi. Not only her femcel bit is a lie but her believes irl are opposite of what she shows on stream. Also she claims to be a very loyal person but after a recent discovery anons found that she is monkey branching

>>102325728
I thought jelly was based?

>>102325347
100% 4chan grown(i believed the propaganda) take

>>102332360
>she is monkey branching
Can you explain?

>>102332386
you missed some news about her anon

>>102332428
google what it is and thats exactly what she did.

>>102325283
>Chyyyyatt I am so single. Chyyyaaatt
>2x bf yabs.

Dooby3d
Filian
Fuwamoco
ironmouse

Cringe and boring

>>102325728
More like jelly hates her cause she stole a certain person called airo from her. You have so reps to do

Elia Stellaria.

>>102325283
BF yab aside she's a legit manipulative snake who know exactly how to string men along. The kind of women your daddy should have warned you about.

Calling it the ick, I assume you're a woman. The only vtuber I've ever had women who I've casually chatted with at cons make a negative reaction to is FWMC. Take that for what you will.

>>102332608
>>102332811
she's a female chyaattt, she loves da gluuu, chyaaaatt!!! DA GLUUU!!

>>102325347
To add to the Lucy pyre bit she labels herself as a femcel which is complete bullshit

>>102333149
do you have any proof?

>>102333194
yeah the fact femcels do not exist

>>102328284
Transgirls are fine if they're japanese or korean because they look even better. Kumo is german like nyara so you can make assumptions based on that.

>>102333275
you don't know where to look for them. That's a you problem. Come back with proof. (btw i don't believe her either)

>>102333194
>this woman is charismatic enough to pull hundreds of men to give her money yet is unable to have sex when the requirements on her end for that is simply having a vagina
Just deductive reasoning. Remember anon, a malnourished chronically online schizo who lives with her mother was able to get a BF, and Lucy ain't half the trainwreck that is.

>>102320019 (OP)
Whore clan
Doki
Mint
Vshojo

>>102333194
femcels aren't making a living streaming to hundreds of guys thirsting over them

>>102333371
mouse has more views and she is boring as fuck. I dont think that vtubing is about charisma. I don't believe her but it's innocent until proven guilty
>malnourished chronically online schizo who lives with her mother was able to get a BF
who?

>>102333194
By this point the burden of proof should be on "she is le femcel!!" fags when it comes to any vtuber. They need to prove that the vtuber in question is completely fucking malformed, a complete freak of nature, or crippingly mentally ill, or maybe has had some deadly autoimmune disease since they were children, otherwise she 100% has had a boyfriend or has one.

>>102325347
You have a personality disorder.

>>102333433
I realized I forgot to list Niji
But that's a given I suppose lol

>>102333484
>who?
Shondo

>>102332436
Thats why i asked so can you explain?

>>102325347
People are calling you schizo but all of your points are somewhat grounded and you apply them unilaterally in a fair manner
Honestly this a pretty normal amount of skepticism to have about public entertainers, which is no different from how people feel about actual IRL celebrities, good list

>>102333798
nta but jelly rm account takes are not the same based takes she shows on her streams. Also she is not even a loyal gf. You have a lot of reps to do.

>>102333948
People are calling him a schizo because half of it is based on vibes and the other half off catalogue camping.

>>102325347
Most of these are just speculative.

>>102325347
>Watch streams? Of course I don't. The catalog tells me all I need to know.

>>102325347
This is like the Golden Cleric speech in Father Ted.

>>102325347
This thread is mostly just based on vibes certain vtubers or their CEOs radiate that feel off putting, and he's not wrong about Fishman, Shondo, the Vtard girls, Kirsche, some of Phase's girls, male vtubers, Shiori, and quite a few popular indies.

>>102325347
Based vibeCHAD. High chance of being 100% correct on your reads too.

>>102325347
>Kiara
The me me me meme strikes again. I hate autistic retards and 3rd world faggots.

>>102333037
She also likes guys who can't keep their hands of oblivion

>>102327575
Mad phasecuck

>>102325347
Based equal opportunity hater anon

>>102335328
is this a butt joke, chyyaaatttt, a butt joke!?

>>102334108
Sadly I don't have time to read up on this. Just give me a TLDR

>>102324603
cunnie hoe, still vtubing

Pillow - I've had several partners who act exactly the same way as her, she's not trustworthy, I wouldn't be surprised if she was married and her husband wasn't aware of what she does exactly as a VTuber.
Everybody from PC except the red panda - Liars, manipulators, troublemakers, whores, sociopaths, etc. Of all the bad things I can think of, there is a representative in that company, I'm not including Red Panda because I've noticed that she sometimes stops herself from lying, which tells me that her parents at least instilled some morals in her.
Former shark - From the beginning she has always been distant and manipulative, always looking to take advantage of her relationships, she is not trustworthy.
Filian - Liar and canculator, she hides behind a mask of naivety but in reality she is a sociopath.
Every single niji except Onomachi Haruka - I don't have to explain this one.
Most of VSMP members - yuribaiting every now and then it's okay, it's funny, but when they start abusing it, it ends up being disgusting, you are not a fucking lesbian, quit your bullshit.
Nene Amano - Literally a psychopath, I wouldn't trust her a candy.
Neppienep - She's not bad, but it's clear that she doesn't have much experience dealing with people, so she'll almost always end up making bad decisions that will end up affecting everyone.
Almost every single cunnytuber - Lies, lies, and more lies, extremely manipulative. I wouldn't be surprised if they've already caused several suicides among their victims and we're not even aware of it.
Most male vtubers - You know the rules and you know that it's not for men to break them, have some honor or cut your balls off.
Veibae - basically a walking STD, It would be safer to sleep with someone infected with Ebola.
Any dramauber who doesn't talk much about PC yabs - corrupt, sellouts and cowards.

I'm already tired so that's all for today.

this shit made me quit the stream
i cant watch this crap and not be seen as a pedo, guess holo keeping her in check was a good thing
what a creepy and cringe bitch

>>102320019 (OP)
I've never seen a thread so fetid with the stench of estrogen as this one.

>>102320019 (OP)
>dominates /pcg/
>has her own general
>has her own random as threads
i cut myslef while cooking and drunk so theres blood on my keyboard, BUT CMON /vt/ YOU LOVE LUMI I DONT CARE BUT SHES GOING TO BE MY WIFE AND YOU CANT STOP ME WITHOUT ME AND YOU KILLING EACH OTHER ON THE TOP OF THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN WHERE OUR SOULS CLASH AND FIND OUT WHOS MORE SCHIZO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>i recognize as you in my final moments as you deliver the final blow
>"im sorry i wasnt good enough, take care of her"

>>102325347
>saba, som-
Stopped there
Kill yourself

>>102325347
most sane anti in /vt/

>>102333529
it's impossible to prove a negative anon

Pipster the ripster

Phase Connect grifters, especially Mari Mari. The few 4-digits are zero-personality bitches baiting manchild schizos with the same braindead jokes or shamelessly leeching off Holo’s retarded fanbase. The rest are just CEO noise for money laundering. Clio and Tenma are okay but boring af.

Most of the male vtubers feel gay as fuck to watch since most of them act like theater kids. Some are cool like Randon though

>>102320084
>Brown

nimi
dooby
saba
most of phase
the entire whore clan (shylily and co)
everybody still in nijien and most of the ones who left as well
raora
shiori
basically all the big ones on twitch I've been exposed to
every single male vtuber who wears or wore an avatar designed to appeal to women

keeping it to just the ones who give me the ick, fail the vibe check and come off as manipulative cunts, ect. it's been a pretty reliable mechanism for avoiding cunts and creeps over the years with the amount that failed ending up in a scandal of some variety frequently of the sexual variety being rather high.

>>102320019 (OP)
Anyone who joined HoloEN after Myth, especially the ones who abandoned their friends & fans to chase after numbers and money (FWMC, Biboo, etc).

>>102335962
she got doxxed and was confirmed to have had a boyfriend and reposted support for abortions. It's literally nothing unless you're a schizo

Most of phase
whoretubers
vtubers where 2/3 of the screen is her flesh and the last 1/3 is some cheap model
Most of HoloEN
All of NijiEN (except for rose)

All of these bitches need to lose their platform.

>>102320019 (OP)
Shiori
Nerissa
Fuwamoco
Roboco
Haachama
Iofi
IRyS
Vivi
Su
Henya

all of them are hiding something.

>>102338959
Do you have a link to that account? I heard that boyfriend was from high school but Idk how true that is

>>102339584
https://x.com/sftshll

Idk but I still think Mori and Kiara are cool. Mori is a trooper and extremely hard-working, I think she deserves being the queen of EN because she started trying to make a living in a foreign country doing a really niche genre of music (j-rap), taking all kinds of abuse and bullying, but weathered all of it. Also she seems to be pretty charitable to her coworkers (taking them to dinners, letting them stay at her place, etc.) Idk I just get good vibes from her.

Kiara has her flaws but she also went through a lot. And she will meet her fans in person (technically) which could indicate she doesn't feel like she's above them unlike a lot of vtubers. Maybe a bit narcissistic and love the attention but no more than most modern women. I think she actually has the potential to and has grown as a person. It's strange because these two, at least in the past, were two of the most disliked vtubers on this board. Kiara may still be but I don't understand it outside of her voice.

YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND MY PAIN CHYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

>>102324603
This story would have been awesome if it was true

>>102325768
clara is literally a massive twitter feminist and had a massive meltdown about trump on her personal instagram when he got elected

ERB

>>102340627
The one where she wished pro-life women would have painful, life-threatening miscarriages? How can people with that mindset think they are in the right?

I don't watch streams because they are too cringe and boring, I used to watch some clips here and there but nowdays literally everything I know about VTubers comes from /here/, so i'm basically reading a bunch of stuff that may or may not be true about people that I don't know and instead of actually checking it out to see if it's true or not I rather believe everything is true cuz it's infinitely more fun, it's like a weird hobbie for me idk.

>>102338445
>Dooby and nimi
???
Both of them are squeaky clean (made up /vt/ tabs don’t count
Even Saba isn’t that bad aside from being not very communicative with her fans during her last years in holo
Lumping those 3 with the rest is crazy

Most visited thread by /here/ tubers.

>>102340881
*yabs

>>102340881
NTA but Nimi and saba are clearly just in it for the money, saba is in my opinion a grifter even, she reposted a belle dephine post 6 years ago making fun of loli fans

Ironmouse-gives off strong fake nice vibes and is friends with bad people
Any GFE chuuba (nene amano,Miguel gato,etc)
Shondo
Kirsche
Other /pol/tubers
Dramatubers
Most of phase except Clio Tenma and maybe a few others
Anyone still in NjiEN
98% of male vtubers
Veibae,Shylily and the rest of the “whore clan”

>>102340929
I think both of them also enjoy what they’re doing so it’s not just about the money.
And as for the other thing I’m pretty sure people can change their opinion, I don’t think she’s faking it at this point

>>102325347
I agree with most of this post

As for me i don't like Squ, Lumi, and Buffpup

Lumi: Egotistical bitch

Buffpup: Sexpest

Squ: Coalburner

>>102340929
>phrase-final even
Opinion discarded.

If this Lumi clip doesn't give you the ick you deserve to be cucked imho:
https://files.catbox.moe/4noy0d.mp4

>>102341184
I mean it really cant be anything other than being married

>>102320169
Runie is good. She puts a lot of time and effort into her RP streams. She's basically Ame is Ame wasn't a lazy fraud.

>>102341218
MADE: For BBC 100%

>>102341218
even if all of those are truely how she is sexually, why post that shit to your public company account? What could you possibly home to gain from it?

You know Lumi used to do edates back in her old corpo. Dont get me wrong, Lumi is probably one of the hottest vtubers around but that bitch gives me fake vibes

>>102341349
The issue with Runie is that she's a charisma void. Good ideas and does try but not well. Still a gfe grifter tho

>>102341382
To grift lonely men duh. Lumi has proven time and time again that she will say/do anything to put herself above others (financially or otherwise).

There is a reason why the majority of CyberLive talents hated her lol.

>>102327487
kumo needs a femboy model, don't care about the rest of the thread just came here to say this

>>102339624
Thanks, but there's nothing interesting here. Just normal posts nothing about a boyfriend or nothing about politics. Just a girl talking mostly about her hair

>>102320019 (OP)
i wasn't a fauna anti and still dont consider myself one but when her indie redebut stream started with a remix of fake stream voice clips i felt put off. then there was the merch showcase.

>all male vtubers
>all dramatubers that ignore phase yabs
>all GFEtubers

>>102341572
she might be the one

>>102337633
I oshi my oshi but this type of weird idol shit gives me the ick

>>102320019 (OP)
>ick
im not female

>>102340627
Does anyone have a link to her Instagram?

Sunbr0cean and his mood killing, not-subtle, paragraph long sexpesting

>>102325347
this anon's oshi is /vt/

>>102338307
>Some are cool like Randon
Randon is only accepted because he acts like a normal streamer and doesn't act some Shonen protagonist. If more male vtubers were like him we wouldn't have that much of a problem with them

>>102320106
she's just slow

>>102325283
>she is schizo
anon you have to stop falling for this gay shit
she's just a normal person on the internet

most small corpo vtubers. seems like they're only in it for the money. most of them get booted because they're stupid and don't know how to read contracts and then expect their fans to bail them out. very tired of it.

>>102325347
This man has taken every catalog bait thread as gospel

I think they're all beautiful
except kirsche that bitch a fuckin whale

>>102343429
>schizo xDDD
2025 shorthand for
>she acts silly and excited sometimes

>>102343469
Shes just a little on the morbidly obese side, be nice

>>102320019 (OP)
Saruei.
The whole Numi, Bao, Yuzu clique.
All of Vshojo.
Gigi.
Kiki pyon.
Every male vtuber in his mid 20's or older (there are some that are pushing 40 and still vtubing...creepy as fuck kill yourselves all of you).
Kronii.
Finana.
etc.

>>102343543
>Numi, Bao, Yuzu
these sound like shorthands for monhun monsters

>>102343543
gigi is chill i knew her a very long time ago

>>102343530
>"B-B-B-B-B-BUT WE SAW HER FEET ANON SHES NOT FAT"
The last place body fat goes is literally the feet lol

>>102320233
Those 5 guys? All me

>>102343708
Is mari still fucking prince? I remember when she was a 1 view and they were fucking together until she said the n word and inclined off that

>>102320233
it was a hotel anon

>>102333356
all femcels are volcels

>>102336868
>POCD westoid
someone needs to check ur hard drive nigga

>>102340881
I get the ick from dooby and nimi for different reasons than the rest. they don't give me creep vibes (saba does however) but they do give me grifter manipulator vibes. nimi especially.

I'm aware neither of them have actual dirt, that said I trust my vibe check above all else. it has never led me wrong when it comes to streamers and it goes absolutely nuts when it comes to nimi in particular.

>>102343888
>if you complain about pedos you are the pedo
true projection

>>102343671
Is she still trying to suck up to Null, despite the guy doxing multiple of her friends?

>>102320019 (OP)
>/pol/adjacent vtubers of either side (phase, vshojo, a bunch of indies)
>gfe grifters (talentless and predatory)
>LOUD=FUNNY types
>chuubas that hate their fans

>>102336394
>Any dramauber who doesn't talk much about PC yabs
but anon, that's every dramatuber.

>>102341547
she nuked the incriminating stuff

>>102320019 (OP)
I watched my fair share of vtubers of the past 5-6 years and Lumi could be one of the most unique women ever. It is impossible not to fall in love with her.

>>102343543
Vtubing only for men under 20? That's disturbing anon.

>>102325283
>used to be a cyberwhore
>currently a phase cunt
double ick, even without going into details

>>102320753
>she always sounds shady asf
oh, really?

>>102344381
This projection keeps being proven true over and over again especially recently when some of the politicians supposedly against child trafficking voted against the release of epstein's files. It's the golden pattern of NPC behavior.

POCD is a helluva drug.

>>102336394
>Most male vtubers - You know the rules and you know that it's not for men to break them
I wanna hear some of the rules

>>102325283
She's literally blonde Vei.

>>102343400
slow means retarded

>>102340994
>Miguel gato
imo she wraps around into appealing again. Imagine having an actual psycho as a gf.

>>102344346
ogey

>>102344696
>some of the politicians
That's underselling it. The fucking president is protecting Epstein's clients because he was one of them.

>>102344346
when your vibe check "goes nuts" do you look like this

>>102345076
you're gettin it

Lumi gives me the ick, everything about her and also being xalamon/sei's cocksleave

any chuuba that fleshposts

>>102344346
gave yourself away there at the end kekfeet

>>102325768
The hags are usually good. I like tenma

>>102346356
no, more like this. someone failing my vibe check means they are grossing me out on a core primal level.

there was a time I ignored bad vibes when I was young. then one guy turned out to have sexual molestation allegations which they admitted to in their apology spiel and another had a whole kevin spacey saga.
now I just listen to my gut instincts that evolution honed for tens of thousands of years and I haven't had a single controversy hit someone I follow since. seen plenty that failed it end up embroiled in controversies though.

>>102346297
>>102344696
nta they're all on them my guy, no exceptions
every politician, every heads of state, every president, every prime minister ever
you have the jades and the white pearl trafficking org in china, US has massive child trafficking hotspots under clintons (especially below atlanta airport)
Russia in tandem with the FBI running innumerable cp sites, even the CIA publicly admitting they sell children as sex slaves (you can look up ex-CIA confessions on youtube)
not to mention the UN and the vatican run international rings, there are even articles about that on Wikipedia, and that nobody is jailed
hollywood, princes, influential people ranging from book writers to even scientists like Stephen Hawking, etc.

>>102344346
this applies to every woman

>>102320019 (OP)
Matara(i still sometimes listen to their trashlight thing), kirsche, leafit, froot, formerly fauna creeped me out but I like her more as nimi, saphera de noma, rev and his gf, pippa, and saba/gura.

>>102344381
Yes

>>102344346
Unironically agree about the manipulator part since I knew way too many women like that growing up. Nimi has gotten a but better about it but I still feel a bit offput but not nearly as bad as before.
Vtubers made me realize I can't really trust women in general though except for like a few relatable ones that have more nuisance than being a lol so random fuckup.

>>102336868
>>102346770
Kek I was just browsing Twitter and I saw this
This is truly a timeless meme

>>102325347
nigga hates everyone

>>102320294
It gave the ick then it switched to the loli model and i suscribed

>>102346545
aight

>>102341119
My friend wanted to go to momocon just to do nothing but meet vtubers and watch streams in the lobby area there and I wish I honestly took another person that could drive so I could enjoy more of momo myself. Those are his favorite vtubers and buffpup irl looks like the lesbian he has orbited for years.

>>102343888
>>102344696
>>102346590
>>102346770
>>102346839
Seethe all you want. It won't change the fact that you're attracted to children.

>>102325347
Extremely based, but
>reddit spacing.

>>102340708
Someone who can't control her vagina and knows she needs an easy way out.
>>102343543
teenage hands wrote that,i hope, if not you are a pdf
>>102339624
kek even with a fucking filter she is so fucking ugly.
>>102341302
lumi is full of shit and dog shit, but at least she warns her audience about that from time to time.

Jean is humblebragging every second sentence. How does no one notice that

>>102344440
Yes, she will throw anyone under the bus to stay relevant

>>102325347

I kneel, hater san

>>102343854
No, fuck off

>>102321805
But you'll still give her money though because her model is sexy.

>>102325347
Are there any vtubers you actually like?

What is the final solution for the pickme question?

>>102320019 (OP)
Watame. It's all an act. A carefully well executed one, but still an act. Definitely a colossal bitch and terrible human being to the point she makes Marine look like a good person in comparison.

>>102320019 (OP)
Lumi does give me the ick as a man.

>>102325283
Is this fucking bait?

Do you guys not understand that vtubers are playing a character and the person behind the character doesn't have to be pure and flawless?

>>102327557
Are you serious? Outside of collabing with Nimi (who technically has less subs but a bigger following) she has never collabed with anyone who would further her career.

>>102348413
Yeah, and you better keep a tight lid on the real you. People want the fantasy but they will always try to discover the reality.

>>102325347
FUCK
FUUUUCK
TRUTH FUCKING NUKE
HES FUCKING SPITTING

Eira Woolcott

>>102325347
>people calling this an opinion formed of catalog bait
>most of it actually makes sense
It’s the truth they don’t want to hear

>>102348433

>Yeah, and you better keep a tight lid on the real you.

I do every day.

>>102346770
>cherry pick instances of "protest too much" to discredit any criticism of the general attitude of weebs with pedo bait characters
classic

>>102348413
I think the issue is that a lot of vtubers themselves intentionally blur that line and will claim up and down that they are being honest and genuine on stream and only presenting the real them, and only when they get caught out on some bullshit revert to the "well I was just playing a character, you guys are at fault for taking it seriously" defense when they had tried very very hard up until that point to pretend otherwise. It just comes off as super manipulative and hypocritical.

For vtubers who lean heavily into kayfabe most people don't give as much of a shit about what goes on behind the curtain because they make it very obvious they're playing a character.

>>102348444
Checked

>>102347698
>bargaining and pleading on 4chins
I remember when you deep web fags used to be respected, now you're no different from self hating reddit rags filled with guilt

>>102348514
It's true, because every weeb enemy is no different from politicians you vote and pay taxes to
Crooks, liars, traffickers, all abound

>>102346839
He scored at least twice - wife and daughter. And what about you, anon?

>>102348643
It's noy that deep anon. If I expressed attraction to drawings of dudes you'd probably think I was a faggot. If you express attraction to drawings to little kids I'm probably gonna think you're a pedo. Is either a case of 100% certainty? No, but it sure doesn't help.

>>102347698
>>102348735
>>102348750
you epstein niggas defend child rapists and attack weebs
someone really needs to check your hdd

>>102348750
>Both adults and kids have limbs therefore you SHOULD be attracted to kids to
Nice cope, but unfortunately you're projecting

>>102348764
>triggered pedo
every time

>>102348789
no need to talk about yourself epstein disciple

>>102348788
Nice leap in logic, but it still doesn't disprove my point.

>>102348818
>Nice leap in logic, but it still doesn't disprove my leap in logic

>>102348814
I didn't vote for party defending epstein tooth and nail but ok

>>102348836
I accept your concession

>>102348842
>>102348881
>I didn't vote for party defending epstein
You pay taxes to people who traffick kids to epstein
You watch movies made with people who paid epstein for child rape
You were probably diddled as a kid by some white trash

>two retards fighting
*checks thread topic*
>and one of them gives me the ick

>>102348842

The democrats didn't release the epstein files when they controlled the house/senate/presidency. You're lying if you think it's not both parties hiding it.

>>102348902
correction: he's the white trash diddler*

>>102348913
welcome to 4chong

>>102320019 (OP)
Any that swear.

All of SVA, but snoozychu in specific for her grifter PL

>>102343400
She sounds evil and manipulative

>>102344346
>regularly stream for your audience
>don't mislead them in any way
>do this for years
where's the grift because I don't see it, it's an honest job

>>102327064
Kek

>>102348567
Its the perfect career for women, yeah

>>102320019 (OP)
All female vtubers.

>>102340627
Yes, but you know upfront she's a retarded liberal whore.

>>102340156
as someone that has mastered almost all stages of the sharingan, i can honestly say, i do understand her pain, chyat, and its not very cash money, SIR!

>>102348413
When you give me the ick you have basically failed at keeping my suspension of disbelief and that's a flaw as a vtuber

>>102348413
What is their true character and what is their persona depends entirely on if you agree with them. The best example of this is Numi. Numi makes being a whore her personality, she then complains about her audience being a bunch of creepy coomers who ask her out at cons and so on. Wnats the benefits of being a whore, hates the downsides. Conversely Suisei is a prude, makes her music her brand/personality, and is fine telling coomers to piss off. Many vtubers wish they were Suisei, only they don't have the talent and didn't consistently focus on making music while shutting down coomers. Reminder that Suisei's earlier hololive 3D stuff had jiggle physics, her chat were talking about her boobs instead of her concert so she had the jiggle removed.

>>102348456
I only checked her out briefly, didn't really care for retro games. What's the issue?

>>102341547
Nta but that anon is wrong. This ACC only has 1 tweet about bf. Most of it came from a unlisted stream with her ex bf (who she dropped Google doc on cause he was "abusive")where she talked about juicy stuff including another bf and a trip with him. She was virgin baiting the most in phase btw.
That stream
>>102202079

>>102346392
she has more candidates

>>102350746
Fujo with a weird model

>>102350859
Phase fans really are cucks lmao

>>102351284
Proud

>>102344505
That's the thing though, I'm pretty sure most of what you think is actually her has been perfectly manufactured to play the part of this excitable cutesy nerdy girl who was once a tomboy and likes all the things you like. Notice how she goes down a checklist of common lovable stereotypes so you get attached to at least one of them

>>102344346
Nimi is definitely a manipulator but not in the way most people think, did people forget she literally groomed shondo? Not to mention she's one of the few vtubers who has openly admitted to putting on a face at all times. It's why I could never really get attached to any of her incarnations even though I think she's a great entertainer. Everything is just too obviously calculated. She doesn't give herself room for mistakes or public meltdowns like other vtubers. She will never cry for real or rant to her audience.
Of course, naplings love this aspect of her and will defend her to the death for it since they will say it is a hallmark of her being a professional (and it is). That doesn't change the fact that she is calculating and manipulative.

>>102347877
Who's Jean?

>>102351599
Jean Faymas, Jets

>>102351563
>I don't want to traumadump on my fans or use them as emotional punching bags to make myself feel better at their expense (genuine sentiment)
>manipulative
>public meltdowns, crying on stream, ranting to a captive audience
>not manipulative
Something in your brain is broken or screwed on backwards.

>>102339624
nta but im pretty sure this account has been known for a while

>>102325768
Tenma collabs with literal trannies and Clara is an unironic SJW

>>102352028
Not really. But see
>>102350781


>>102351731
Didn't she move with her Aussie bf?

>>102340708
I think its about someone being in the situation they asked for. A lot of pro life people end up supporting laws that put women in very risky situations, even women in stable relationships that wanna have children.

>>102352146
No that im saying thats a good thing to say mind you

>>102351939
Hiding your feelings because you don't want to reveal your more vulnerable self means that you can never be truly genuine.
Public meltdowns can be manipulative and some people definitely use them that way but they are not inherently manipulative and I dislike this strawman.
A comparison I would make is a public figure who is always giving PR responses vs someone who shoots from the hip. It is obvious to anyone that people who give canned professional responses are not genuine and are trying to illicit a certain reaction. Whereas someone who is more raw can be manipulative but they could also just be honest.

>>102320019 (OP)
BatAtVideoGames

>>102347921
I'll never understand her obsession with the guy. Last few MATIs have just been him screaming his head off about how Vtubers are all pedophiles yet she constantly sweeps for him

>>102352254
Tbf I know why hes upset with everything loli cause I know exactly they types of people he is talking about and they act like mlp fans at their height and are both disgusting and annoying to everyone but they have money. I cannot avoid a certain kinda loliguro/loli beastiality fanbase in even magical girl spaces.

>>102352358
Hating lolicons is right though. If you fap to bara no one will say you're not gay because "it's only a drawing". I hate any coombaiting vtubers, they literally have a medium seperated from their bodies and they still regress to Twitch whore behavior.

>>102320019 (OP)
All corpos are subhuman, passionless creatures in only for the money, especially hololive. Yes all of them.
Every chuuba above 1k concurent viewers

>>102327487
I guess that explains why he's friends with Lily Hops.

>>102352434
>>102352434
Hating people minding their own business is peak of wrong, if you focus more against loli than predators within your gov, you should look into yourself and seek mental help
If you fap to furry bara and think of real dogs, it's your mental illness. Same with projecting real minors onto anime girls

>>102352434
>>102352358
every single anti lolicon should be beaten to death
you'll find that almost all of them antis are preds

>>102352764
Based. Zero tolerance for any antis. Don't like loli? Lemme help with that POCD by popping your head with a bullet.

>>102352358
>>102352434
>right
Actually both leftie and rightoid faggots do that and they give me the ick; they're coping for the fact that they both vote and pay taxes to child traffickers

>>102352942
I never said the right or left
>>102352764
I am talking specifically about the ryona and bestiality lolishota/people. They basically shit up everywhere and years of /jp/ and touhou forums and discords consistently had this issue.

>>102352358
>they act like [REDACTED] at their height
okay now I know you’re trolling. you have no idea how bad things really were

>>102343671
Tbh vtubing introduced me to korean feet and i have to say korean women are cankle central. More so, and regardless of fat, when they are the square midget type.

>>102353288
well... post details anon

>>102353196
oh you're a different person carry on then, we only hate POCD fags like that ana valens guy
if your reason for disliking simply isn't due to projection/POCD, then i'll let you off the hook

>>102344496
>she nuked the incriminating stuff
Screenshots or it never happened

>>102353913
anon see
>>102350781

>>102353985
Thanks, but when did the stream/Doc come out? Pretty fucked if everything said is true.

>>102346771
Nuisance... you mean nuance?

>>102354395
Dyslexia is a hell of a drug and spell check doesn't really save me.
I also put but instead of bit lmao

>>102326138
Newfag spotted

>>102325347
>Bao and shylilly, i find it strange how they killed sinder in the way they did, was likely planned character assassination
Based based based based based based based based based based based based based based

>>102344544
"Night" in english can mean having dinner in the evening, not necessarily staying the night.

>>102325347
Only ones I disagree with are FWMC and Clara; since I don't care about FWMC as people since they're clearly just playing characters, and because hating Jelly for being a little brown chudette is based.

>>102354183
the og starknight found it. Thats what kickstarted all of jelly digging
here the original post.
>>101372004

>>102354183
oh and the og unlisted stream post is in the post i told you to look at. If you dont know how to find those posts use archives like warosu

>>102355291
>>102355372
Thanks anon, I'll have to check it out

>>102355286
Jelly is not even a chudette. Her personality is fake. Clara just showed us the truth

>>102355796
QRD?

>>102356090
just read above

>>102355151
>>102325347
Tbf sinders a massive cunt like froot so I don't even think they needed to do a character assassination.

>>102356299
Yes, but that doesn't excuse the act imo. The way it was so brazen was quite disgusting

>>102356299
do you really think that lily or bao are any better?

thank god this shit thread is almost dead

>>102356859
jelly/lumi go stream

>>102356859
More threads should be posted shitting on terrible people. If you want your "puru idoru" you won't find one here on 4chinchin

>>102356763
No.
>>102356362
Fair, but to me it is just expected easy money drama that they were absolutely going to jump on.
>>102357290
I am surprised the ones that might be considered vtweeters that constantly start drama and mostly do react content weren't mentioned. Well, one was at least.

>>102352210
>someone who is more raw can be manipulative but they could also just be honest.
This feels like a very twisted perspective of things. Being "honest" doesn't make you less manipulative. That's quite literally BPD's whole thing. When they break down crying and threatening to kill themselves if you say you want to break up, that's manipulation, even if they genuinely feel that way. Someone who refuses to impose that shit on you and let you make your own decisions without having to consider them or feeling guilty or bad because of them by definition is trying to NOT manipulate you. You're basically saying it's manipulative to not weaponize empathy, and it sounds mildly BPD in itself to look down on people who refuse to.

>>102357728
Vtubers are like any other streamer. And a lot of streamers are vapid and manipulative.

>>102325347
I agree except Mint did nothing wrong!

>>102341349
Runie likes black men which makes her garbage despite being generally good.

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call out the pedos, insta meltdown
lmao

>>102342558
poor anon has no streams to watch. get your reps in

I think its too late for damage control Xal, people have caught onto Lumi. Just let it go.

>>102359403
he has jelly to damage control fore too

>>102359513
Yeah but Xal has emotional attachment to Lumi

>>102359841
and rve to jelly

>>102359877
Wtf is an rve

>>102359954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMEW0wjV464
the only one with any phase connections who was subbed to her rm account.

>>102360071
Ah

>>102320019 (OP)
All "react" vtubers
All twitch vtubers
All of holoEN Justice
All of Nijisanji
Calliope Mori
Houshou Marine
Laplus Darkness
Natsuiro Matsuri
Shigure Ui

>>102358483
mint is two-faced

I like how the hate for male vtubers comes from being male alone

>>102361612
>All of holoEN Justice
CC is fine, inoffensive.