Bae on making JP music vs EN music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Y3KQY3Tzs

>>102343456 (OP)
>Bae: I have more confidence speaking and singing in Japanese than in English
And other statements made by the completely deranged

>>102343456 (OP)
Understandable.

>>102343456 (OP)
These bitches should all be forced to change branches, been saying that for ages now. If you want the JP cock so bad then compete with the JP talents and fuck off.

>>102343456 (OP)
Notice how she's the runt of EN before Justice and Advent

>>102343456 (OP)
based interrogation by that SCer honestly
in the early days spamming JP songs would make you the subject of mockery, somehow it became more accepted over time, maybe because we finally got a decent base of EN songs
still, if fucking IRyS is willing to produce EN songs consistently, then you really have no excuse

>>102343631
IRyS is the most JP in EN and she's at the top of EN, explain that atheists

>>102343673
I still think about how everyone dunked on kiara for talking too much in Japanese yet when IRyS debuted everyone loved that about her

>>102343615
Maybe you should just stick to all EN vtubers rather than forcing people to do whatever you want them to do. You ironic weeb faggot nigger gook spic kike shitter wop chink beaner shitter tranny paki jeet retard sphincter!

>>102343456 (OP)
her EN music is ruthlessly mocked by critics whenever it leaves the vtuber bubble, and for good reason honestly. that shit kinda sucks. nice enough lass though so i hope she improves.

>>102343716
>You ironic weeb faggot nigger gook spic kike shitter wop chink beaner shitter tranny paki jeet retard sphincter!
holy anal fixation
was potty training traumatic?

>>102343673
>in the early days spamming JP songs would make you the subject of mockery, somehow it became more accepted over time
Complete headcanon. Gura had one of her biggest streams at the beginning of her career and some of the most beloved songs were Jpop classics like Plastic love, Stay with me, Ride on time, etc.
I didnt see a single person complaining that she is singing Japanese songs.

>>102343615
>>102343673
>>102343769
>>102343790
>work on a JP company for almost 4 years
>sporting an anime avatar
>following japanese idol culture
>vtubing being a culturally japanese niche nested inside a japanese niche
>Turns out, to the surprise of fucking nobody, the talents are massive weebs
>This makes (You) seethe
boo fucking hoo.
>INB4 YWNBJ
Yeah I know but this is a such a nothingburger. You guys are eternally bitching because your country didn't invent vtubing. You don't see anime fans get irrationally mad over most anime being originally dubbed in japanese.

People that complain about this are ironic weebs that watch anime with a EN dub on

>>102343811
i just think her music is bad anon

>>102343676
>and she's at the top of EN
How many of those numbers are EN? lol
Why do you think they do it?

>>102343811
I'm also a weeb but that doesn't mean i go around talking in JP or constantly talking about my hobbies to people at work.
You have to be a special type of inbreed to enjoy these bitches speaking a language most of her viewers barely understand, and have no reason to seeing as they're supposedly watching Hololive ENGLISH, for 70%+ of their streams.
They will never be Japanese.

>>102343456 (OP)
>has an aussie accent
>i'm more comfortable speaking japanese
This bitch is cringe.

>>102344330
Deaf retard

>>102343456 (OP)
>entitled EOPs keep making unreasonable demands
If you hate JP why even start following pretend-anime-girl from Japanese company?

>>102343615
>>102343631
Kind of shameful that we have sub 50 IQ apes who have been on this board for 3 years and don't know half of her discography is in english
>>102343927
a special badge of honor to this retarded brainless mongoloid for having an asshole as wide as his ability to lie
>70% of their streams
Who the fuck are you quoting you lying son of a bitch? there's nobody in EN who speaks Japanese 70% of the time
>I'm also a weeb
Gut yourself larper
There is no weeb out there that prefers English versions of Japanese songs. Stupid netflix newfag

>>102343676
IRyS only collabs with Flare. She doesn't suck up to JPs like Bae and FWMC do.

Bae was born in Japan to a Japanese Mom and Aussie Dad
Dad got homesick so family moved to Australia when she was 6
She is thus ESL which why Japanese is easier for her
She is also living in Japan now so only English she speaks is on stream

>>102343676
>Most JP of EN

>>102344808
Her mom is Chinese and talked onstream before

>>102344808
why is she fluent in chinkese then

>>102344873
Chinese Japanese. Her grandfather participated in nanjing

>>102344438
YWNBJ

vTubing is a Japanese thing?
Pfft, maybe Kizuna A.I. hijacking the shit posting with an Avatar format and calling it "vTubing" 2 years after Face Riggers like Ironmouse streams(2014), Ami Yamamoto vlogs(2011) people mocaping MMD with custom Avatars and the Custom Avatars of VR Chat
And before that were the PNG and and animated gif Shitpodters dumping crap on file storage sites,like YouTube and linking it back here or to other message board
Western Weebos on 4Chan started video shooting with Avatars first for shits and giggles
Kizuna A.I./UPSRT88 used the format for Ad Revenue as did hundreds of copycat companies that died off during the PewDiePie and Naughty Elsa Adpocolypses with only a few like Hololive,Nijisanji,and VOMS(Pikamee's company) barely surviving as Ad Revenue wasn't only income

>>102345086
Nearly all of them are anime-inspired avatars. The biggest in the industry are from Japan and was pretty non-existent in the West until the Japanese companies branched out.
Vtubing is a coined phrase by Kizuna Ai who referred to herself as a virtual youtuber.
Ironic western weebs

>>102344438
Don't bother anon, the only retards here that are left are phasefags and liggers. They are EOP, they don't care about vtubing culture. To them, a vtuber should just be a streamer with a model.

>>102345165
are you are phasefag or a ligger?

>>102345209
I am your mom, go take a shower.

>>102345209
*a phasefag

>>102345209
>are you are
Dumb ESL faggot can't even type without having a stroke

>>102345222
Thought you were dead. Why are you in pagpagland?

>>102343927
TRVTHNUKE

>>102344403
hololive ENGLISH

>>102345293
>Blatant lies
>TRVTHNUKE
You are such a samefagging subhuman that it's not even funny

>>102345209
Worse, he's a towafag

>>102344929
You got fucking destroyed faggot. Zero retort.

>>102343927
i don't think that complete dekinai should even watch hololive
if you're a turboweeb who's been watching anime for 15+ years, isn't it expected that you would understand at least 60% of japanese?

>>102343456 (OP)
>watches vtubers in a Japanese company
>surprised many of them aspire to be Japanese
???

>>102343811
I don't think I'll ever understand why people would bitch about music language. I do get why people might get pissy about what they stream in or if they spend more time with another branch instead of their own, especially if they make no effort to get the other branch talent to speak in a language their main audience can understand.

>>102343811
You are replying to braindead netflix ironic hoodweebs who don't even watch vtubers and come here to shitpost

>>102345485
rumao

>>102345554
I get it, 'ironic weeb' to you means someone who doesn't want to put some decent chunk of time into studying a language for what is essentially a hobby and media consumption. You niggers act like just because you like some Japanese stuff, your life should revolve around Japan as a whole.

>>102345601
No I'm calling you an ironic weeb because that's exactly what you are. A dumb newfag on top of being a hoodweeb. It has nothing to do with properly learning japanese
>Please cover taylor swift. Japanese vocaloid songs are le TRASH! I watch anime dubbed btw, if you speak Japanese in a japanese medium, you suck REEEEEEEEE
Fuck off newfaggot. You came into a weeb's hobby and want it to revolve around you. Go back to watching your netflix slop cunt

>>102345601
Stop watching and consuming Japan-adjacent media. It is not for you and it never was.

>>102345601
Lol, arguing with /jp/ rejects is a waste of time anon. Most sane people know why it's preferable for vtubers to make content in a language you understand. Especially when "English" is what's being advertised to you.

>>102345670
Holy shit you've built a strawman here. I can rattle of 20 shit anime from the 00's that I watched that you've probably never even heard of, have a few fansubbed tapes I picked up locally when I first started watching anime, and hate shonen trash with a passion. But hey, go off. I think it's retarded to bitch about JP songs from EN talents, but your content should be focused on EN if you're in the EN branch.

>>102345711
>Most sane people
Good thing you are an insanely retarded AND disingenuous son of a bitch because the majority of the content produced in the English branch is exactly as advertised. In English
Slit your throat

>>102345717
>hate shonen trash with a passion
Then you are an ironic weeb. You don't actually like Japanese stuff, you only like Japanese stuff that appeals to your western sensibilities

>>102345717
>your content should be focused on EN if you're in the EN branch.
Why the fuck are you in this thread then? to bitch and moan about a problem that doesn't exist?
The content of the EN branch IS focused on EN

>>102345743
Hahaha go back to spamming dbz threads on /a/ you fag

>>102345730
Sorry anon, I will always push for them to speak English more. Fortunately we're not like Indo Holo ID viewers who meekly sit on the side and subserviantly watch all their girls speak English. When EN girls speak JP too much we're always willing to call them out on it.

>>102345744
Should I point out how much Bae and FWMC have pushed in the last year to suck off the JP audience as well as how much more time they dedicate to the JP branch for any branch event then?

>>102343456 (OP)
I think the subhumans complaining about this should watch their twitch whores instead. There you can have your English songs

>>102345771
>I will always push for them to speak English more
Which makes you an EVEN bigger retarded son of a bitch than you already were since you have made up a problem in your head that isn't real
>When EN girls speak JP too much we're always willing to call them out on it.
Good thing that's not really a problem
Also
>We're
Who the fuck do you think you actually are you fucking loser? a handful of discord server of antis who think their opinions mean worth shit? you don't even watch the talents enough to realize that you are contradicting yourself because nobody in EN speaks JP "too much"
I will once again tell you to slit your throat you absolute waste of oxygen

>>102345781
NTA, but go ahead and enlighten us. I just hope you aren't like this retard >>102343927 who claimed 70% of their streams are in Japanese when realistically, it's more like sub 5%

>>102345781
Once again, a complete load of horseshit
Not only has Bae arranged or done many EN collabs, (10x the amount of her JP collabs), half of her original music is also in English for fuck's sake
She also primarily produces her content in English
>Should I point out my headcanon
Feel free to do it you lying son of a whore. You won't find any examples besides the occasional branch wide arcs

>>102345835
for any examples he might dig out of his ass, there's much more examples of EN content anyways Lmao

>>102345810
70% is a rediculous number, but a few talents spend a lot of time doing things with the JP side, which is felt way more than a JP talent doing things with the EN side givem we've got a third of the members the JP side does.

English only gods. It's time to come home.

>>102345601
Tons of people around the world are familiar with the english language because of english media.
>but japanese takes more effort
Sure, but i don't know how can someone watch anime with subtitles every day for years and process two languages in their head at the same time, while the expressions and timing of the two languages are vastly different. It became unbearable to me so I decided to learn it. I don't know about you. Do you ignore what you hear most of the time and only remember meme words like TEMEE and NANI? Peak ironic weebery.

>>102345887
>few talents
Only the ones who can speak Japanese
The reason they do it is because they are weebs and they enjoy hanging out with their JP senpai in a language they can communicate with them. I hope that's a reasonable enough explanation for that mentally ill brain of yours
Yet it still doesn't overtake the EN side of things
>rediculous
All I needed to know about the ESL filth we are dealing with here

>>102345835
>Gamerfes
>6 JP talents b-days
>Every big JP event since new years
vs
>Offcollab karaoke
>ENReco (management required)
>Kiara's speing event

>>102345537
Also, when they do English songs.... it's written by an ESL Jap... Like IRyS's early songs.

There's very few native English people in Hololive that write their own lyrics. I think Mori is the only one who does.

>>102345940
Is this dumb ape seriously comparing lives? something the EN branch gets less of to begin with due to a lower pool of talents?

>>102345918
This
It's only a matter of time until you start to understand verbal Japanese if you watch enough anime subbed. If you don't then you are outright lying about being an oldfag

>>102343615
>These bitches should all be forced to change branches, been saying that for ages now. If you want the JP cock so bad then compete with the JP talents and fuck off.
Nobody is forcing you to watch. Plenty of American Twitchtubers for you to watch

It's just brown seaniggers who don't get how trigger happy western music producers are with lawsuits right?

>>102346074
These subhumans don't even know how this shit works and think EN songs perms are given out like freebies

>>102345973
There is very few singers that write their own lyrics, anon.

this is like trannies complaining about games not being ruined by inclusivity enough and then bailing when the retarded devs cave to their terrorist demands

>>102345997
Alright retard, even without lives you still have
>JP Animal tower
>JP Rock Paper Scissors
>JP Minecraft event for almost every day from a month-ish ago
>JP fishing event
>JP only maid cafe call-ins
>JP game festival
>JP typing competition
vs
>Offcollab karaoke
>ENReco
>Call-in for 5 min on 24 hour stream
Now if you want to add in collabs, there's a decent amount of Advent collabs that they were in, and a handful of normal game collabs for JP they were in too. I took out 3d participations, but their JP participation in those is astronomically higher, even with quite a few EN 3d events/lives.

>>102346241
This retarded ape not only press forth a dumb example to begin with, he doubled down with an even dumber example of
>The bigger branch with more people has more talents that like to do events
and then also proceeded to exclude a lot of EN events from the equation
I'm flabbergasted

>>102345918
It's not like I don't know anything, but I'm also watching anime a few times a week, not every day. I 100% don't have the compacity to understand a majority of what they say, because I just don't care about trying to link the Japanese and English together when I'm watching something for fun.

>>102346307
Feel free to point out the events I missed that they were a part of then. Instead you'll just cry and call me one of the handful of names you love to use when someone posts proof.

>>102346112
Bingo

>>102346337
>proof
I think I'm just going to call you the retard that you are and move the fuck on because your arguement basically boils down to a nonsensical
>stop accepting invites to events from the JPs because they like to arrange more events than the EN branch due to their sheer number
Not to mention the much higher amounts of general collabs in EN vs JP which should be the metric here instead of comparing events of a much larger branch
Stupid. Braindead. Fuck you are.

>>102346389
So no proof of them doing things with EN then? Even in the collab department, they'd have jack shit outside of their full advent collabs.

>>102344438
Cool story. Now picture this:
>JP hololive streamer speaks in English and caters to English viewers for most of her stream
How fast would her channel die? Surely the JPfags are reasonable people like you are telling us English viewers to be, right?
kys

>>102346472
It's impossible because none of them speak english well enough to do that. Not even the "HoloEN gen 0".
Meanwhile IDs who speak English an cater to English viewers don't get their channels nuked by rabid ID viewers.

>>102346472
>>JP hololive streamer speaks in English and caters to English viewers for most of her stream
Which EN member speaks Japanese and caters to Japanese viewers for most of her stream(s?), btw?

BAU BAU

>>102346472
There were a few english only streams, from Korone for example.

>>102345918
NTA but I don't really listen to the japanese, I just look at the english words and glance up at the animation every so often. They could be saying absolute gibberish and I don't care, the language is as unintelligible to me as trying to understand dogs barking and cats meowing.

>>102346538
>Nuked
No, but their views cratered when new EN came out and management specifically told Holoro that they needed to speak a lot more ID on their channels last anni, which they have done.

I like how that one fags completely forgets that FWMC do shit like pushing their all EN talent roster on their cafe call-ins to speak in Japanese the entire time for no reason at all.

The root issue is what we know most of these types of girls are guilty as sin of doing across multiple agencies: They join an English branch and then go full JP because that's what they really wanted.

Why do you even watch Holo, a JP corpo, if you are not interested in japanese? Plenty of EN chuubas out there, from ironmouse to ex-corpos who dropped all pretence now.

>>102347403
Hololive ENGLISH

>>102347450
EN is fucked. Their merch sales took a huge hit and I expect Cover to try and do what they did with Advent with the rest of EN. Push them to JP as the fun EN side piece so they can recoup some of those lost sales. Advent as a whole has had a huge amount of management pushing. It's crazy how many Japan-only things they have.

>>102346074
>>102346094
you nogs know there are songs in english even in Japan right?

>>102343676
IRyS is legally Japanese and grew up speaking Japanese.

>>102343676
By what metric? Stream time? CCV? Subs? Merch? SC?

That doesn't answer the question. The main appeal of Hololive ENGLISH that makes them stand out is that they are a part of Hololive, a japanese vtuber group. If you have no interest in that - go watch phase or vshojo, what's the difference?

>>102347450
>>102347873

>>102347873
So why have an English branch if they are focusing on non English speaking audiences? This line of thinking is why ID is basically dead in the water, they all but abandoned their core audiences, which defeats the point of an ID branch.

>>102347896
ID2 came out the gates as 1 JP (Anya), one EN (Ollie), and one ID (Reine). Reine swapped over to English because EN exploded and surpassed basically all of the JP branch overnight making Cover, managers, and talents all realize that there was a demand outside of Japan for this stuff. It was really funny when all the JP members started trying to suck off the EN fanbase for subs to try and hit milestones, most of which likely would have never hit their million without EN existing. It was almost like what FWMC do, but in a short burst instead of semi-consistantly doing it.

>>102347896
They are not focusing on non English speaking audiences. They (some of them) are focusing on English speaking audiences that are not completely retarded and have an interest in another language and culture. A concept that is equally difficult for both amerimutts and sea monkeys to grasp.

The English branch is appealing to JP while the JP branch appeals to china
what a fucking mess

>>102347972
FuwaMoco absolutely are. They have canceled more of their EN streams than their (non collab or Holo main channel) JP streams. Its now to the point where most of their viewers now are Japanese, that is how bad their neglect of their EOP audience, their literal target audience, is.

>>102348040
>They have canceled more of their EN streams than their (non collab or Holo main channel) JP streams.
Wtf is this metric? How many of their EN and JP streams did they not cancel?

>>102348009
>My delusions
Yeah they are a mess lmfaoooo fucking kill yourself monkey
>>102347450
Especially this waste of air

I care less about language than I do about time zone fuckery with Japan. I’ll listen to a Japanese song but they can get fucked if they never start stream before 9pm est.

>>102343456 (OP)
Why does this need a thread? She didn't mention anything new and is absolutely correct in all she said.

>>102343456 (OP)
>weeb hobby
>bro why is it weeb
Come on now

is this the state of vt now

>>102347969
>It was really funny when all the JP members started trying to suck off the EN fanbase for subs to try and hit milestones, most of which likely would have never hit their million without EN existing.
This, this right here is why I'm so pissed and won't stop ever bitching about the Holo'English' Branch. At one time we had the founding of our own branch AND JP members putting us on a pedestal and now we got next to no JP attention and our very own branch turning away from us for the JP audience.
I REFUSE TO BE KEKED BY JAPANESE, HOLOLIVE CAN EAT SHIT BEFORE I WILL EVER ACCEPT BEING KEKED

>>102348383
>this right here is why I'm so pissed and won't stop ever bitching about the Holo'English' Branch
No, it's because you are a whiny bitch. Noone ever put you on a pedestal. People who subbed to JPs back then wouldn't piss there pants about some japanese on stream.

>>102348336
>now

>>102348336
>is this the state of vt now
/vt/ has never once in history had discourse over an EN member doing content in Japanese. Not once, this is truly the end times

>>102348336
Where were you in the early days of Kiara? The board seethed so hard and it leaked out into the general fandom to the point that she openly talked about how she curbed her JP self-translating on stream because of how many negative comments she was getting about it.

>>102348116
You have to go back Rajipoor

It's Hololive English. It's one thing if it's a JP thing every now and then, but Hololive English ought to represent something new. I have the entire ever expanding catalogue of the main Hololive to go to.

I don't think it's fair to criticize Bae for this though, she's released a lot of good English songs. It's not like Gura where she spammed a bunch of songs that didn't leverage her singing.

>>102343676
>IRyS is the most JP
her entire EP was in english retard

>>102343769
Which critics?
I have never heard of a critic "mocking" a Hololive song, so it's obvious you've made it up.

>>102347873
I already do, alongside Nimi/Saba/Dooby. The EN branch is a fucking joke nowadays so no reason to watch it anymore.

Never forget, FWMC want to make HoloEN strong!

HoloEN post 2024 is a pathetic mess

>>102349938
They would be the first to start cheer if EN and JP merged

>>102349960
Nothing has really changed post 2024

>>102343615
The monkey's paw curls. Now the JP numbers go down because of the extra competition. There are a lot of reasons not to do this.

>>102349938
I dont want to hear a fucking thing from them until they do EN only ASMR
How long has it fucking been?

>>102345806
YWNBJ

>>102353035
That's the problem. As a rare watch for the Japs, FWMC are a fun change of pace. They have some regulars/long time Jap members but most would be watching someone else if they overlapped anyone real.

>>102343456 (OP)
the real answer is producers that are in a low enough point to work with vtubers all fucking suck and the only alternative to that would be a JP producer translating their song into english which would be stilted and bad.

>>102357329
should clarify I mean primarily ENGLISH speaking producers/songwriters.

>>102343456 (OP)
ok but why

>>102345485
lol
some people just outright shut down any attempts at learning, even passively

>>102348336
you're forgetting why hololive global and this board were created

>>102362519
Be Too fast then got containment board?
Don't worry now it just fags like you holo fan gone to tower already

>>102353134
Just like when Mormons men and women accidentally have sex when someone is bouncing on the bed, that ASMR didn’t count. The one behind a 40 dollar paywall did, tho

>>102363034
>ching chong ling long

>>102346472
Coco was famous precisely because she was streaming a lot in English (helps that she's American so she could actually speak it). Haachama also enjoyed some fame for streaming in English a decent amount, but she wasnt great at it and then gave up. The rest of JPs, except maybe Lui, Ririka and Kanade, would not be able to talk comprehensible English to save their life. Which, funnily enough, is how bad the Japanese of most of the EN branch is as well.

>>102343456 (OP)
fun

>>102346319
>I just don't care about trying to link the Japanese and English together
The point is there really shouldn't be much effort necessary, absorbing and connecting the two languages should happen naturally as you watch.
>compacity
Tells me all I need to know.

>>102343456 (OP)
Promise as an EN branch is dead. Bae is basically JP already, IRyS can be become a "Honorary EN" in the JP branch and Kronii can, idk, join Justice

>>102349524
I've seen other examples but this one springs to mind
https://youtu.be/LiKWxIemafg?si=WpYmIrhEJV8XKOAU&t=388

>>102367322
Kek, why is she even there with Green Day and David Guetta? And who is this fag anyway?

>>102367322
Who are the other examples?

>>102367322
The song is bad but i feel obliged to point out that brad taste in music is a schizophrenic retard

>>102368362
True but he still reflects the general sensibilities of current day music critics. I doubt Pitchfork or some shit would be any kinder.

>>102343769
about as important as video game journalism

>>102366384
Kronii can fuck off, lazy whore

>>102368468
to someone who spends all their time playing video games and watching anime i'm sure it seems that way

>>102368434
Most vtuber songs are barely even real music, both EN and JP. They're more like vehicles for these women who for the most part are not singers to be able to sing, rather than actual songs. They're made by comitee and not really meant to be listened to, they're made to be cheered to.

>>102368560
>They're made by comitee and not really meant to be listened to, they're made to be cheered to.
What do you base this on?
Most of my favorite vtuber songs have reputable indie composers behind them.

>>102368748
So do most of mine, but most vtuber songs aren't really like that. I'm talking about the myriad random group and original songs released over the years that just sound vaguely the same and are quickly forgotten. Stuff like
https://youtu.be/xg6DUmRRXlw
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIZSYTAeoF4

The appeal of these songs is that you like the people singing them, not that the song is good. And it doesn't really have to be, its idol music. Its for you to cheer to during live performances and shout out the references you understand. Like you said, sometimes you get stuff like Marine's original songs that are made by talented indie composers and actually have some personality to them, but most songs are just amorphous sound

>>102343456 (OP)
If I could speak Japanese I’d make songs in Japanese too. Singing your own lyrics in English feels kinda cringe
t. former composer

>>102368815
>I'm talking about the myriad random group and original songs released over the years that just sound vaguely the same and are quickly forgotten.
A song being mediocre doesn't make it not a real song. Most albums have boring filler tracks that no one remembers, does that mean albums are mostly made up of fake songs?
>The appeal of these songs is that you like the people singing them, not that the song is good.
Nonsense, most songs try to be good to listen to, too.
Most VTubers are probably not thinking to themselves "Okay, I will release this utter slop not because I think it's good but because people like me."

>>102368560
nah denpa and jpop can go hard as fuck and there are definitely examples on the holojp side that i think your standard fantano-like rock/pop critic would praise.

Some examples:
https://youtu.be/ysV01Wj-wHM
The breaks
https://youtu.be/2_opjVlYhi4
Marine's latest, a few of her others too
https://youtu.be/_VIeV_LZXHM
Unison is a particularly interesting track imo
https://youtu.be/lUDPjyfmJrs
I I I has a latin explosion, almost Clarence Clarity like vibe
https://youtu.be/XL1hFQ5EaE8
But if I'm being honest, I think the unapologetic denpa shit has the best chance of appealing to western critics outside of the Holo bubble.
https://youtu.be/O5h6haVYSYQ
As a bonus, Kronii's cover of Suki Suki Daisuki is also pretty good.

There's stuff im leaving out im sure, holo music is very hit and miss so im not familiar with all of it.

>>102343456 (OP)
But when will Bae comment on being complete dogshit?

>>102343615
cope and seethe encuck, your branches are filled with twitch whores who have no business being vtubers. There's only few EN members who shouldnt be fired

>>102369664
Hard to comment on something fictional

Holostars

>>102369764
Is it fun being part of the shit rat glaze squad?

>>102369816
I will continue to watch and support the content creators I enjoy

>>102346552
Fuwa-fucking-moco, DUH

>>102369816
This thread isn't about your mother
The rat is an amazing idol to support though if that's what you were asking. Your oshi is probably trash.

>>102369898
Since when does loud obnoxious zoomer = amazing idol?

>>102343615
EN vtubing is still expanding (for the corpo leaders like Holo) so sticking with EN is a long term investment while JP is just reaping the seeds sown even before the pandemic boom

>>102369920
First of all, utter shit take coming from a numbskull.
Secondly, lets break it down for you ya cranky little subhuman shit for brains twat.
>fun and earnest gamer to watch because she really gets into the games she plays and gets emotionally invested in stories + plays whatever her fans want her to
>Decent singer who is still improving over time
>Amazing stage performer who always gives it her all on the stage and S tier dancer
>Great person who gets along with all of her peers and has long lasting friendships
>Gives fans lots of idol fanservice and loves them a lot
>Spends a fuckton of money on projects
>Never becomes full of herself and is always humble
>Always listening to feedback and is very weak to fan demand
>Willing to give new things a fair shot with an open mind
>Cute as fuck

But then again, your oshi is trash so you wouldn't get it

>>102367322
whoah, is that LITERALLY WHO?

>>102370032
I remember that time she did that S tier dance at fes and no one gave a fuck. Comedy gold.

>>102370118
>nobody
Nice revisionism. Everyone outside of your schizo den had something different to say about it and loved it. Must be sad living in an echo chamber surrounded by subhumans in your discord
Not to mention her latest fes performance is literally the most replayed moment in the vod

>>102370238
Yeah, that's why the crowd that cheered for everything was dead silent.

I think that clip of her doing the full body stand up thing is really cool

>>102370334
>Emotional ballad song
>Crowd is mesmerized
Woah it's almost like every ballad gets that reception! You are a disingenuous motherfucker and you know it lmao.
>Dead silent
There are several points in the performance where the crowd roars out, almost like you are also a deaf motherfucker on top of it all
You fucking lost subhuman.

>>102370425
Have you sold all those tickets already?

>>102370425
>quiet crowd is soopar respectful, but no they were soopar loud, don't you remember?
Pick a lane, shit rat glazeboi.

>>102343456 (OP)
Because Japanese people actually buy her music. Meanwhile westoids are freeloading poorfag nigs who only want gibs and think it's their right to get everything for free.

>>102370559
You really are one, stupid, son of a whore aren't you?
Incapable of reading, just like a monkey. Pathetic subhuman

>>102370627
This is the part where I laugh and tell you to keep seething, right?

>>102370636
Oh don't worry, I'm not the one doing that. That's you doing it unprompted for free by coming into this thread with this
>>102369664
May you continue seething about the cute rat for free you miserable son of a roadside skank

I mean this in a way that is completely non-derogatory and I cannot stress enough that I like her a lot, but wouldn’t it be hilarious and hot if you pulled down her pants and she had skidmarks?

>>102370118
I remember it immortalizing jdon forever to the point where it still goes on today. I can only assume that you oshi someone who's performances are wet farts and your seethe stems from jealousy

>>102370661
You got me. I am so upset that my oshi isn't the biggest pile of turd in the company.

>>102370678
>I have never missed a day of bathing
- the rat of Hololive

>>102370706
I get it and that’s why it would be even funnier and hotter

>>102370699
>third worlder facebook meme as deflection
I'll take your concession with a river of tears faggot:D

>>102370745
I have been conceeding the fact that no shit pile is bigger than Bae since I got here. What more can I do before you sit back, secure in knowing no one could possibly be more of an obnoxious cunt than your shit rat? Do we have to go through every collab she ruined, too?

>>102370801
You haven't conceded shit faggot. You haven't even tried besides just parroting our skin color. You don't really have any arguments to begin with and only intend on dancing around the topic. Stupid son of a whore.
>collabs she ruined
Please do list them, she's always a joy in collabs, assuming you even watch Hololive

>>102370963
>Please do list them
All.
Done.

And I'm not even the guy picking on your brownness, but it sure must suck to hate yourself enough to bring it up unwarranted.

>>102370979
As predicted, the son of a bitch dances around the topic
Fucking subhuman bot

>>102367322
>bradtaste

>>102371014
Going to find them would necessitate hearing rat cunt's grating voice. No thank you.

It was nice of her to swing by and ruin the end of IRyS and biboo's gunpla building stream, though.

>It was a /hirys/ fag
How am I not surprised

>>102371070
Unsurprising that an IRyS fan would be disgusted by what Bae passes off as singing.

>>102371095
Not sure why you think your opinion should be taken seriously anymore considering you are from the toilet bowl of the board for everyone to point and laugh at
>IRyS fan
Lmao

>>102343615
fpbp as always. Females itt are malding

>>102371117
Should I take the opinion of someone who agrees that it's funny because it's loud is legitimate humor? Go die in a fire and take your dogshit oshi with you.

>>102371145
Any opinion, no matter how wrong and shit, can be safely discarded and not entertained that I know you are from the worst schizo den of the site :D

I think you two should hatefuck

>>102343456 (OP)
Japanese is a language of an authentic culture while English is basically just a rootless global jargon people learn due to necessity.
Its pretty obvious which language is better suited for artistic expression.

>>102371183
and what language do you speak faggot? Spanish?

>>102371070
Interesting, talk about a schizo's complete and utter mindbreak
(All results link back to /HiRyS/ and there's multiple pages of schizoid spam)

>>102371236
Her thread along with /baubau/ have the largest amount of /jp/ shitters who look to stir the pot for the EN vs JP shit all the time, both just language spoken and talent pool vs talent pool.

>>102371236
I thought Kiaraschizo-tier patients left the board but guess I wrong.

>>102371236
dang bro did the rat rape this niggas sister or some shit. She's such a sweetie

>>102343692
Irys is also literally Japanese and not an Austrian weeb so...

>>102371236

>Hololive English's deliberately-cultivated English-speaking audience is somehow wrong for wanting content produced in English.
You people are out of your minds.

>>102371850
Weeb's hobby. The people hired will prefer to cover Japanese songs especially since English song permissions are anal to get. Deal with it.

>>102371980
I will never get the complaint about songs in Japanese given it's a once every 2-3 months at most event. I can get if a talent spends a bunch of time speaking in Japanese or goes off to do a bunch of stuff with the JP branch though.

>>102348551
fun fact: the board was in fact not shit
in the before times when it wasn't overrun by kiwifags and dramawhores yet

>>102372130
Yeah, you just had people like orcschizo make 30 threads a day and replying to themselves upwards of 35 times in a thread with 50 posts. Or /jp/ retards being mad that a bunch of their threads were killed and they were forced to post in global with EN for the first 6ish months befoee the baord was made who made it their mission in life to shit talk every EN talent for the rest of eternity.
Face it, the only difference now is that a chunk of the people who used to sit in global now sit in global elsewhere.

>>102372207
>the only difference now is that a chunk of the people who used to sit in global now sit in global elsewhere
This. And they haven't even left, they just go bitch about imaginary "good old times" in catalog bait threads for some reason.

>>102343456 (OP)
That's reasonable, I hope Bae becomes more confident in her English singing, it definitely seems like she uses Japanese as a degree of separation, but she does have the singing chops so I hope she continues to have a good split of EN and JP originals.
Also I hope cover helps her in getting the opportunity to cover land down under.

>>102372207
they used to get banned
not be protected by jannies and their SEAnigger friends

>>102372443
It's the towaadmin desperate to keep his shithole afloat

>>102371236
hiryscucks really can't stay in their lane huh? was bad enough that they have their own shithole to gossip in, now they are actively leaving their thread to astroturf their schizofaggotry

>>102372587
holy SEATHE

>>102372484
>spoiler
That would be incredibly based of cover

>>102372603
hi there. How's cheebs, still running?

>>102343716
This. It's actually a much more pleasant experience watching only English Vtubers if you find some good ones.
You actually get to feel like their primary audience.

>>102372130
Fun fact: if you think it was ever not shit - you're a part of why it's shit.

>>102345162
This just means Japan high jacked it, not that they invented the thing.

>>102345924
Its funny how that faggot and the other faggots in this thread crying about EN not being EN enough are all the esl fucking 3rd worlders

>>102345717
>20
>proud
lemeow

>>102343456 (OP)
Based gigaweeb. She WILL become Japanese

>>102346448
Why are you so upset that weeb girls who have landed their dream job in their dream hobby are interested in their hobby's large majority of events and interactions than your pathetic micro dicked 3rd worlder ESL ass?

>>102353829
YWNBW

>>102348040
Didn’t they originally applied to JP, even individually?

I don't care that she sings in Japanese, I'm a full fledged english only bogan that got tackled at a servo by the police because I was screaming about Bae, but she keeps putting out great songs and is doing great working on her idol dreams so I'm happy for her.

>>102373317
yes

>>102373192
weeabooism is a mental illness which should be ridiculed

>>102373421
t. neflix dub-baby

>>102373438
not watching dubs doesnt make you a weeaboo

>>102373317
Yes, they got rejected. They could only make into a lesser branch.

>>102350049
>almost every single EOP white woman graduates
Hmmmmm

>>102373734
Almost every single EOP white woman (minus Fauna) didn't stream anyway. Hmmmm indeed.

>>102343692
I can't speak for everyone who was giving her shit, but I just hate Kiara.

>>102374002
it's fine if ina and kronii don't stream

>>102373383
>I'm a full fledged english only bogan that got tackled at a servo by the police because I was screaming about Bae
the fuck
what state

>>102366384
Will FUWAMOCO join Promise?

In this thread we see once again why EOPs are insufferable.