Thread 102399734

Will the indie Avengers let this one in?

>>102399734 (OP)
Soyapoya

bean queen...

She will never join because she is in a much happier place and she will not be a traitor whore.

>>102402225
T. never watched streams

>>102402248
Ironic, if you watched streams you'd know she said how happy she is in holo.

>>102402356
She wouldn't appreciate you calling her friends whores either you shitter

>>102402394
I'm not that guy.

>>102399734 (OP)
Way too early. I think Kronii or Ina are more likely.

>>102402356
So was Sana, Gura, Fauna, and Ame, but here we are.

>>102402356
Actions are louder than words under contract

Why does she sound like she's fat?

>>102402431
Not really, no. Especially Sana makes no sense as a mention at all, you could tell streaming wasn't for her right away.

>>102402461
>revisionist
You didn't watch her. Most people didn't tbf

Posting Bean in a Bean thread

>>102402472
I did and could tell this wasn't for her, she often didn't even know how to comment on the games she was playing. Lots of awkward pauses. No offense to her, but it just wasn't the job for her and she saw that too evidently.

/lig/ was a mistake they’re so fucking salty all the time

>>102402542
/lig/ is a retarded community from the getgo, think about it. All these girls trying to make it and hoping to land the golden ticket into a major good corp like holo. And as a fan you're supposed to wish the best for your oshi. But that would be a death sentence to them, as they hate corpos. So they actively root AGAINST the girls they're supposed to love and push.

It just makes no sense, the whole thing.

I'm going to miss Tanya. The longest indie I've stuck with. Hope her next gig has her set for life, she deserves only good things to happen to her

>>102399734 (OP)
Anon, Basedapoya... She...

>>102399734 (OP)
Anon, bean... she...

Her model is unironically better than Saba, Nimi and Dooby and so is its rigging. She needs to go back to being indie.

>>102402695
Why?

>>102402695
Model, yes
Not even close about her rigging being in the same tier as Saba, cillia's rigging is top tier on that aspect.

>>102399734 (OP)
She is just a leech with no other redeeming qualities

>>102402695
Her CC model is much better. Rigging is shit, but design-wise CC is superior.

>>102402738
Saba has jelly rigging, something Soya purposefully avoided. Matter of preference.

>>102402738
Over the top even you might say. Her eyes go huge and small every few seconds and her ears flop about between wide and perked up nonstop, it's distracting.

>>102399734 (OP)
>doesnt stream

>>102399734 (OP)
????? She graduated. Dunno if she's coming back to indie after whatever she's doing (that is not vtubing, but can also be rigging).

>>102402833
No sex appeal and no, the doll gimmick isn’t sexy. Her model is very pretty but that’s it.

>>102402746
go back saltligger

>>102402542
Considering they made two of these threads for two different vtubers at the same time, yeah I agree. Its either them or nijifags, sad that I'm putting those two groups on the same level now but if they behave like each other then its what I'm going to do.

>>102402542
this is a /lig/ board
go cry in your hugbox

>>102402421
Its a hobby for ina, only way she leaves is actually having her actual career sabotaged by the company, which considering shes getting a free work visa to hang out in japan indefinitely, it doesnt seem likely at all

>>102403081
Have you thought for even a moment that she doesnt care about sex appeal and shes aiming for more entertainment and comedy with her streams?

>>102403456
vtubers = sex appeal

>>102403264
>go cry in your hug box
>wants to trun /vt/ into his own hug box
What did he mean by this

Why there are constant asshurt threads anout Cecilia?

>>102403264
retard

>>102399734 (OP)
She's going to go back to the Barbies where she belongs

>>102402616
You're assuming that ALL indies want to be in Hololive, which isn't true. Many are completely fine with what they have, or are determined to build themselves up as an indie. And that amount keeps growing as corpos lose power and favor in the industry writ large.
>So they actively root AGAINST the girls they're supposed to love and push
Pot calling the kettle black, we've all seen how Holo"fans" talk about the ones that leave.

I dunno why they think liggers are making these threads when it's obviously just the usual catalog sisters who are smelling a bit of weakness.

>>102404317
Heck, we've seen how holo fans talk about the ones that are still there.

>>102403829
Her limited streaming lately (busy, not handling the time zones as well, etc.) plus the coincidence of Nina moving to Japan while she's there and Tanya graduating just make her a really easy mark for bait. There's zero substance.

>>102403829
Pot calling the kettle black, we've all seen how indie"fans" talk about the ones that leave.
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/102201713/#102204283
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/101455151/#101457013
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/101431394/#101433091
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/102201713/#102203717

>>102404658
I don't think that is a Tanya fan.

>>102404658 (me)
ops, meant to >>102404317
Also
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/101271108/#101271108
You niggas are terminally ill

>>102404688
And those who call fauna, ame and gura traitors are also not holofans, but you won’t accept that

>>102404797
Let's review their reasons for graduating
>Gura
Lazy, mad that she wasn't allowed to pedobait harder
>Ame
Lazy, mad that she couldn't talk about being an emmy winner for opsec reasons
>Fauna
Wanted more money, wanted to be able to openly be friends with magni without unicorn pushback
>Mumei
Only one who didn't lie and graduated because of a genuine medical issue and not just "tummy hort"
Notice how no one calls Mumei a traitor?

>>102404658
The only reason liggers seethe this hard about corpos is because they're mad they didn't get in

>>102404317
he thing is that indie avanegers are setting the example that being ex-corp is the easiest way to get a place at the top of the industry, thanks to that, Hololive is more attractive than ever for 3view or lower indies.

She said she was officially hired as a rigger for Hololive. If they give her constant work in that area, I can see her staying with the company for several years.

>>102399734 (OP)
dunno but /big/ would suck her cock for sure

>>102405038
I dunno aren't Saba and Nimi streaming a bunch now? Not sure the problem was laziness, probably Japanese corpo bullshit.

>>102404352
it's not "liggers" it's shondo

>>102404658
>>102404702
Ask anyone in /lig/ and they'll tell you that's literally one guy who has been schizo about Tanya for a while

>>102405266
>indie avanegers are setting the example that being ex-corp is the easiest way to get a place at the top of the industry
The examples being people who were already at the top of the industry. Massively popular Holos and the top talents from NijiEN.

There are plenty of ex-corpos who are not suddenly at the top now that they're indie.

>>102405038
>>Fauna
>Wanted more money
She's been around for 6 months and doesn't have superchats on
>wanted to be able to openly be friends with
magni
She isn't openly friends with magni

>>102405350
That was only a one off contract for her own model, she's not rigged anyone else (yet)

>>102402356
Why doesn't she stream anymore then?

>>102405038
>somehow wanting more money for your product = traitor
lmao

>>102405894
are u genuinly retarded?

Maybe because she has an assload of shit to do for Concerts / Music Videos + Dance Lessons and Language Lessons and maybe wants a few hours to chill, to not burn out? But what would u lazy fat shit who sits 12 hours infront of your PC know about working ethics etc. + All the self rigging for her streams she does takes time aswell. The fucked up sleep schedule is maybe on her but it is what it is.

>>102405652
She isn't friends with him which is why she specifically chose him to do her lore video?

>>102406074
I wouldn't call my barber my friend

>>102406074
do you think the spics you hire to paint your deak are your friends?

>>102406229
>>102406388
Napcuck cope RUMAO

>>102402431
>doesn't mention the one that actually liked it
powerful

>>102402616
If you think lig is retarded you should open up big

Anyone saying she happier in Hololive never watched her before or isn't autistic enough to see how different she acts now compared to her indie days.

>>102406961
Yeah, but whenever someone says that they just call you a salty ligger in a crab bucket and imagining things, also she was pretty fucking depressed in the last arc.

>>102406961
But if she didn't like hololive why is she recommending her friends apply there? checkmate.

>>102406961
She is happy before and after. Comparison is the thief of joy.

>>102407148
>don't think, only consume!

>>102406961
>Anyone saying she happier in Hololive never watched her before
>Don't believe her own words

>>102399734 (OP)
literally W H O

>>102407473
This is the most delusional argument of all. I can tell you I have a million dollars in my bank account and you'll believe me won't you?

>>102399734 (OP)
It depends....does Pipa vibe w/ her?

>>102406040
Others have that and stream though?

>>102407588
>This is the most delusional argument of all
ironic considering your only argument is 'she is lying bro trust me she was happier as a wagie'

>>102407681
No but her projects! She has so many ideas she's working on like the brb screen minigames, or the jingles for her genmates. She's also busy recording all those ASMRs for her otoscam tier subs.

Hopefully she graduates next year, I miss Soya

>>102407785
I can promise you that she dropped all of that shit already too, she always does things instantly and gets bored of them and drop them

>>102402511
Cute bean, I wish her success in all her endeavours. Hope she does more violin things soon(tm)

>>102402616
/hlgg/ is a retarded community from the getgo, think about it. All these girls trying to make it and hoping to land the golden ticket into a major good network like indies. And as a fan you're supposed to wish the best for your oshi. But that would be a death sentence to them, as they hate inies. So they actively root AGAINST the girls they're supposed to love and push.
It just makes no sense, the whole thing.

>>102407791
Even when she graduates she won't be the same. Soya is gone.

>>102407856
Holodrones are so retarded

>>102407863
Her friends have kept the idea of "soya" alive for the past year+ but there isn't any guarantee she'll go back to being Soya.
Depends if she mains Twitch like before too, or opts for audience retention by prioritising YT

>>102402542
>>102402616
/lig/ is filled with a bunch of 3view wannabe groomerfags
they will anti anything that isn't 3view or below
that's why they all seem so bitter and jaded
/lig/ is a bad representation of actual indiefans

>>102407967
If she decides to keep using YT you can tell she's lost her soul by that point.

>>102407976
cope more holodrone

>>102408002
she won't, she fucking hates YT for streaming

>>102407088
Sure gig to get rich in 2 years then quit. A bit hardwork and never again needing a part job to survive is worth it.

>>102407088
>recommending her friends apply there
Nina wanted to be a holo before Soya lol

>>102399734 (OP)
>Oh, no, the talent is busy because of anniversary, 3D debut and a AllForOne concert, all converging in the same timespan so she streams less. Graduation soon.
Malenin-enriched retardation the thread.

>>102408317
Why are other Justice members streaming then?

Hungry browns falseflagging as tribalfags for gift cards. What a niggerlicious thread.

>>102408342
And Cecilia is still streaming too. All of Justice streams much less than before though.

>>102408417
yeah she sure is lmfao

>>102408342
All of them have slowed their stream output because their 3D debuts are happening soon. Some do better than others because you're forced to either stream out of a hotel room or at their studio (raora lives in Japan, so it's easier for her). This happens to every gen around their debut time. It's doubly worse this time because the holoEN concert is happening shortly after. I don't expect corpo seethers to use logic though.

>>102408450
actual fucking cope

>>102407976
Sad but true.

>>102408478
>cope
Are you just retarded and not aware of what's going on?

>>102408513
yeah I'm sure she's gonna go back to streaming like before!

>>102408427
>>102408478
My cope is that you jungle mudhut is going to be flooded soon.

>>102408586
ESL

>>102408547
I can't imagine why Cecilia "really bad at time management" Immergreen has struggled compared to her gen-mates to keep a semi-consistent schedule.

They also all dropped off this past week because they're extra busy, but the week prior she not only streamed 5/7 days, all at her traditional streaming time. She just got obsessed with trying to stick to her regular EU hours and took a while to figure out how (sleeping late afternoon, then staying up all night).

maybe if you beg more she will graduate in 2037

CC I objectively one of the most loyal holos on staff now, she's kiara levels of dedicated to the company because she knows if she leaves she'll immediately disappear into obscurity again

>>102409165
Retard she’s popular as hell. Basically the new Fauna in Hololive. She’ll never see Nimi’s success but easily be Mint-tier popular (3-5K CCV) but actually score Saba collabs unlike Mint.

>>102405038
holoseethe

>>102405494
>I dunno aren't Saba and Nimi streaming a bunch now?
and dooby too
> Not sure the problem was laziness, probably Japanese corpo bullshit.
this

>>102402616
>oshi abandons her fans that built her up to cuck them with a corposlop audience and their messages will be lost forever in a sea of emote spam with a 30 second delay, only hope of being acknowledged ever again if they're not an artist is to drop akasupas, no more comfy 3view chat, no more discord watchalongs, no more community events, even after they graduate and return to indie they'll probably rebrand and their chat will be forever infested with thousands of seamonkeys
gee I wonder why people wouldn't want this

>>102409590
>they don't actually care about their oshi being successful, only that they read their obnoxious chat messages

>>102409647
if my oshi gets too much money she'll stop streaming and take frequent vacations where she parties with her other friends she dragged with her and they'll all be getting dicked down by randos or their BFs, but if she doesn't get enough she'll jump on the first decent corpo contract that comes her way, it's a delicate balance

>>102409590
I manage to get fun and, occasionally, meaningful chat interactions quite often without even having to SC at all.
Skill issue?

>>102410303
I second this. As long as the message has substance and is timed outside of an emote wave, there's a decent chance she'll interact with it.

>>102409315
>>102409165
if you go across akihabara her merch is the most sold back from justice

>>102411173
is that good or bad?

>>102407976
>bad representation
No its perfect representation because they are all like that.

>>102411277
if people sell back your merch for pennies just to get rid of it, what do you think?

>>102411294
OK, so not a booming used market then

>>102411294
Unsuccessful scalpers

>>102411399
The limited set for her anniversary merch took days to sell out. Nobody cares for her.

>>102411438
They just printed a lot because of the obvious demand

>>102411438
They sold out, so it looks like she had the right number of limited sets allocated.

>>102411521
>>102411657
LMAO

>>102411438
Nigga every EN is having that issue because of tariffs

>>102405038
genuine mental illness

>>102405038
Didn't mooms say outright that people were making a much bigger deal out of her throat thing than it actually was?

>>102409590
Thank god my oshi will never be a corposlave.

>>102412472
yes, it's fine as long as she doesn't talk on stream for hours

>>102402833
Nah, she easily has the biggest downgrade ever from indie to corpo. Holo should be ashamed of themselves for forcing her to use that garbage model. No wonder she's the grunt of the whole branch when she has to wake up knowing she's stuck with a 0 sex appeal design with no upsides, after she herself made a much better model in the past.

>>102414256 (me)
i am the blackest gorilla nig

>>102405038
Isn't it interesting? It's always the talents fault for holodrones. For your kind the oshis aren't the talents, its the brand and yagoo.
This is the same reason why indies are worthless whores one day and the best thing ever when they join your brand.
Truly the normalfags of the vtuber industry.

>>102402431
Every time someone says this or "they said they wouldn't graduate" I ask for a link to a timestamp and so far no one has yet to provide me one. And I've asked at least 20 times.

>>102414514
you've been provided plenty you just always have an excuse holokek

Imagine not fetishizing doll joints or liking that perfect girl-next-door face and hair combo

>>102414578
Work on your trolling.

>>102415299
Excuse n°1, they're trolling/baiting

>>102399953
People consider this shit better than Cecilia? Looks like vshoujo slop except even worse. The rigging just has more range of motions and that's it. The model and design isn't better at all. There's a reason why almost every ex-corpo made a new model (with corpo money) instead of sticking with their old one and Basedapoya would be no different.
Indieshitters are delusional. They just want to groom their victims inside their 0view empty rooms instead of actually wanting their oshi to succeed or be happy.

>>102414256
>forcing her to use that garbage model
You know she had a lot of input in that design right?

>>102415456 (me)
>Basedapoya
*Basedapoya

>>102415456
>>102415512
>Basedapoya
lmao fucking idiot

>>102415507
And other such nonsense Cover feeds you.

>>102415663
Stay seething, groomer.

>>102415773
get fucked retard

>>102414514
I gave you one when Bae said she wouldn't leave as soon as I had it but you didn't bother to look at it

>>102415765
She literally talked about how she was deciding on the small details like the notes on her skirt but okay

>>102402356
>if you watched streams
they never do

>>102415841
By what? By the fact then even when Cecilia graduates after like 10 years, she will never be a 3 view again? Your groomer messages will never be seen again. Get fucked, retard.

>>102415765
They had influence about their name since JP Gen 4.
They had influence about their characters since JP Gen 5 but that only means they can send the artist a few suggestions at the start but once the art is ready they have to take it how it is.

>>102415895
Typical holocuck behavior. He looks like a fucking clown in front of the class and starts making up arguments unrelated to anything being discussed. Don't you have merch to buy, little sheep? Go home.

>>102399734 (OP)
>no indiefags cares before she joined hololive
>now they act like will watch and support her if she leave
blue doritos magic is real, and it affects indiefags more than anyone else

>>102416013
You literally got cucked by Cecilia when she ran away from you straight to Hololive lmao. Once again, get fucked indiecuck, you can't even read the thread.

>>102416217
lmao sure buddy, have fun

>>102416062
Unironically it's why you see indiefags go on and on about how much hololive sucks and that hologirls are all talentless whores, but the second one of them leaves they act like she's now suddenly the greatest thing ever. It's literally the exact same shit they accuse holofans of doing but in reverse, true projection.

I think she’s be a great addition if she did, but I don’t think she’ll have that much of a post holo buff.

She just needs to hook Nimi up with Nina becuase I think those two would make great collab partners

The /ligger/ conundrum:
>spend all your time mindlessly shitting on corpo chuubas and how your indie oshi is so much better
>your 3-view oshi gets noticed as being talented and pulled into holo to join the group
>retard brain melts down trying to cope with this, flail and have a tantrum at every opportunity

>>102416471
Yeah, outside of nostalgia and ships, there is a lack of decent collab organizers

>>102416504
she had cooler collabs and played a wider variety of games independently

>>102416422
>Unironically it's why you see indiefags go on and on about how much hololive sucks and that hologirls are all talentless whore
Does that even happen? That's something I usually see in /#/ or the random anti thread.
I'd expect a Niji to say that before an indie since chances are an indie fan is just a fan of his oshi and maybe a few of her friends. There's not that much to tribalfag about.

>>102420669
Right now the list is so fucking barren that it might as well just be Doki and Zen for vtubers, with the occasional v4Mirai girl.

It's honestly a miracle that the three ex-holos even talked to each other.

>>102399734 (OP)
Unironically who is this?

>>102406961
She is. Being an indie was depressing her. She put in so much time and effort and for nothing. People weren't discovering her. She was a 2view forever stuck.

She's 5x as big in Holo. She'll never be a million sub tuber. That ship has sailed and nor will she be the most popular.

Soya dreamed of getting into holo. Most indies do.

>/lig/ers are the same as coprocucks
It is LITERALLY different. Corpos kill all the creativity, so liggers being salty about their oshi joining a soul-draining company is justified.

>>102424714
nice cope

>>102422263
CC

>>102399953
>bean queen, dislikes coffee.

>>102424995
Coffee beans aren't real beans. They aren't even apart of the legume family. They are bitter seeds.

>>102423845
Until they see behind the curtain, which is why Grimmi peaced out.

>>102415512
haha newfag

This is so weird. It's not like anyone here actually cared about CC when she was Soya. I've followed her since she was a meme over on /trash/ before /vt/ was even created. She had maybe 1 or 2 fans there who would post the hehehehe meme every thread. No discussion when she was live.
And then when /vt/ was created, the meme continued a bit on /wvt/ before she was eventually moved over to /lig/ but even there she was barely mentioned. Almost no discussion when she streamed, and no on really cared until she redebuted in Hololive and suddenly /lig/ lost one of their most "darling" streamers.
No one cared until she was gone. Fuck all of you. I love Soya. I love CC.

>>102402542
They're bitterly jealous of success in the way that commies all are.

>>102402542
It's ironic because the intended subject of that thread should be 4k+ indies who are big enough to not even need corpos, but instead you there's 3views posted everywhere and their fans who get incredibly assblasted when you mention a vtuber who's bigger than their oshi