Why would Hololive do this?

Try harder to commit suicide

>>102406603 (OP)
What's going on in Portland?

>>102406690
Hololive has spent years selling pedobait merch of characters that look like children but Cover is a tiny fish in a large ocean. Hollywood is a million times worse since they really are attempting to normalize pedophilia while they can influence minds across the entire world. They can't stop the pedophiles in Hollywood or corrupt governments but they can throw shit at vtubers so idiots like this are suffering from misdirected anger.

>>102406690
That person clearly has schizophrenia, actual schizophrenia not the way the word gets thrown about these days.

>>102406603 (OP)
>Belle Delphine was Guragool

>Belle Delphine is Sabagool

IT ALL FUCKING MAKES SENSE NOW

>>102406690
>What's going on in Portland?
drugged up faggots

>>102406647
>>102408472
Everyone always talks about death to pedos, throw em in the chipper, hang them etc. but why doesn't anyone do that for schizos?

If we're already on the line of logic that it's okay to say you want to kill mentally ill people(pedos) because they possess the potential to harm real people(and do it), why don't you apply that logic to schizos(mentally ill) as well? They're very dangerous and do commit crime

I'm so sick and tired of these monsters running around free doing terrible shit to strangers and to their family
Either kill them all or reopen asylums

>>102406603 (OP)
This is all true btw I was there

I googled Robin Bolin and this came up: https://www.koin.com/local/washington-county/man-faces-duii-after-neighbor-reports-stolen-cereal/

>>102406690
fent

>>102409021
then /vt/ would be a dead board if that happens.

>>102406603 (OP)
But Belle Delphine is british, Gura is as American as Apple Pie

>>102406603 (OP)
I thought this guy was in jail?

>>102409443
unfortunately yagoo brazenly walks the streets a free man

This guy also had a youtube channel with like a dozen videos about this stuff. Looks like it got nuked though

>>102409484
He appears to have had several Youtube channels nuked, he has been doing this for years now.

>>102406603 (OP)
>Student at Portland Community College
The jokes write themselves.

>>102409173
Of course it's in fucking Portland. We have third world countries that behave better than that shithole. Have we invented a new tier yet for uncivilized areas that are below 3rd world?

>>102406603 (OP)
I wish the schizos here were this fun

>>102409021
The people who cause harm should have harm come to them. People who cause no harm and self destruct away from everyone else and don't affect other people should be free to do so. Punishing people of any sort for pre-crime is unethical and if someone does so they should be punished accordingly.

>>102406603 (OP)
is that the outfit schizo?

>>102409551
Virtue signaling for schizos
Say this about pedos in public and you will be harangued like no other
>Yeah they're pedos, but they haven't harmed anyone irl yet!
lol

Astelstein List deflection thread.

>>102409173
The problem is, the police will not protect us from these freaks. Such blatantly antisocial behavior as drunk driving and stealing a cereal box from a neighbor should result in a summary execution. His neighbors instead have to live in terror because there's no telling what this guy will do. His behavior will escalate until he murders someone in one of his episodes.

>>102409021
Jesus Christ told pedophiles they should tie a millstone around their neck and drown themselves in the ocean. The reason that child rape is used by the forces of Satan isn't just for blackmail reasons (the Epstein list) but since it really is an ultimate evil that completely separates their soul from God. It goes way beyond mental illness and it's why the sexualization of vtubers who look like children is controversial since it does lead men in an evil direction.

>>102406603 (OP)
Why does society give psychotic people access to the internet?

most logical loli hater

>>102409173
HEY THIS IS THE GUY THAT SAUD THAT AME IS HIS GIRLFRIEND AND THAT HER NAME IS SAMANTHA AND THAT SHE CATFISHED HER WITH THE PROFILE OF A BLACK GUY

Shouldn't schizos be forcefully medicated?

>>102410370
Yes. Too bad Reagan did away with that back in the 1980s. Given that normal functional people have trouble getting medicine in 20xx, it ain't gonna get better. Ever.

>>102406603 (OP)
can we just nuke portland already?

>>102406603 (OP)
Every once in a while you see an actual schizophrenic on the internet and it's either the funniest or weirdest thing ever

>>102406603 (OP)
Is this one of null's alts?

>>102406690
A friend of mine lives there and apparently recreational fentanyl?
>>102409021
There isn't enough woodchippers and a lot of these people are weirdos promoting their drama clip channel or clickbait farming twitter.

>>102410167
I'm not here to argue if rape or violence/murder is worse, however people shouldn't live in fear of assault/rape/death
Logical consistency is the key here, it's already been made apparent that mental illness is not an excuse for anything, so even if you haven't done anything, there is no difference in terms of you being a potential menace to society

>>102409173
I can't believe Yagoo framed him and has even paid off cops to persecute a man for trying to save children

>>102410167
that's not even what that particular quote from Jesus is about, you're misunderstanding it/taking it out of context
>Matthew 18:6
>If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
this can refer to a whole range of things but the idea is that it's really bad for someone to try to lead a child who believes in Jesus/follows his example away from doing so and tried to make them sin, it's not just referring to pedos. Also the idea that there would be some kind of person literally incapable of being forgiven by Christ/God is absurd as is the idea that there would be a kind of person that are supposed to take matters into your own hands and kill/should kill themselves - both of these things are up to God, not man; the Lord wouldn't command people to kys considering suicide itself is a sin and he wouldn't tell people to kill other people (after the law of Moses has been overturned) when all of humanity is capable of being redeemed - otherwise it negates the whole point of Jesus' sacrifice and means it doesn't 100% work.

If you are a true Christian you cannot murder pedos, tell them to kys or think they are incapable of being forgiven. Only God can do that and (You) are not God. The imagery of them being thrown ino the sea and drowned with a millstone illustrates the gravity of the sin but it isn't literal, it's like saying 'leading children away from Jesus is so bad that you might as well just be drowned if you do it (and don't seek to change your ways) so don't keep doing it.'
The idea that there is an act you could commit that can permanently sever your soul from God doesn't theologically make sense in light of Jesus' sacrifice so therefore that can't be what the verse means.

>>102412579
nta but yeah in the context of religion being a cultural-mental virus that absolutely requires embedding itself into the next generation to propagate, and that children are easily brainwashed, of course jaaaysus himself would warn really harshly against telling kids "lol no religion's stupid shit don't listen to them" because most kids actually do have some common sense and probably will stop believing in god around the same time they stop believing in santa claus unless adults keep forcing them to accept "no no, that one's real!"

>>102409021
kys pedo

>>102412959
Considering that Jesus was a jew living in first century Judea where literally every single person was religious and viewed the reality of the Abrahamic worldview as just a matter-of-fact of life - and even the non-jews like the Romans were still religious - even from a purely historical materialist perspective your interpretation that Jesus would think people would need to be convinced to be religious itself and that this is why he would say that doesn't make sense. You're projecting a modern liberal athiestic western worldview onto a time and place that was not like this at all.
The children wouldn't 'grow up to stop believing in Jesus like not believing in Santa' if people didn't follow this teaching, they'd just grow up to be jews.

>children are easily brainwashed
>most kids actually do have some common sense
contradicted yourself there. You obviously don't have consistent views or consistent reasons to reject Christianity (or any religion) you are just doing so reflexively because youwere brought up that way in the modern athiestic world and your view of religion is shallow. I doubt you've actually really thought about why you are a non-believer and if you ever have it's probably for some vague emotional reaction and nothing rational; your tone betrays this fact.

>>102413398
I was raised in a heavily religious family, went to Sunday school weekly as a kid, fucking vacation bible camp etc as a teen. I found I didn't really-actually believe in it beyond maybe 8 years old. Some people say there is some inborn need or mentality that people "have" to have some spiritual connection etc. Lol, no there isn't. I'm quite sure of it. If you think I'm defective or something mentally to my view it's the other way around.

Most people are defective if they can be coaxed into believing anything and adopting some desert mens' religion as "theirs" in every way. It's not yours. It's an external cultural pressure impressed upon you. Artifice, just words and people going "we believe it so you should too." Large groups of people indeed, can all be wrong about something. There's also literally nothing more dangerous than a group of misled people who genuinely believe they're the good guys of society. Abrahamic religion has long been a tool of subjugation and control. We should have dropped all religions not just hundreds of years ago but thousands. It's a primitive mentality holding us down, not enlightenment.

>>102412579
>If you are a true Christian you cannot murder pedos
Satan himself would have trouble convincing anyone into believing such amoral nonsense and God burned cities to the ground for allowing pedophilia. When Jesus returns he throws sinners into the lake of fire and modern day tolerance is a demonic value. One of the great signs of the end times is tolerance for evil.

>>102406603 (OP)
Bring back Lobotomy.l

>>102409021
no one is talking about doing that to pedo's burgerland is ruled by the pedo in chief and his mighty pedo red hat wearing dunce cap army if anything its based to be a sex offender and child diddler according to the Grand Old Pedo Party and their glorious leader

>>102406603 (OP)
Maybe I'd log on to LinkedIn more than once a year if it was full of schizophrenic shit like this.

>>102409173
Oh look it's the Ame schizo

>>102406690
Chemtrails in the West Coast. California is already weird as fuck but it's worse up north. Most people in the Northwest are stoic and antisocial, this is called the PNW freeze. This is likely due to the constant rain causing seasonal affective disorder.

>>102414103
>I found I didn't really-actually believe in it beyond maybe 8 years old
why would you base your views on reality and especially something as significant as the existence of not of God and associated religions on some vague conclusion/feeling you came to when you were an 8 year old child? Something like God and the heavy claims of religion that have been ingrained into society and strongly believed for literal thousands of year sand influenced the very building of the world and all its values that you find yourself in require more serious thought and contemplation to reject than just offhandedly feeling like you don't believe it as a child (presumably just for some underlying emotional reason you didn't understand and can't even remember such as that you found sunday school boring or didn't like the religious teachers or family members for other inter-personal reasons, too)
>It's an external cultural pressure impressed upon you
it wouldn't be so enduring and so convincing if there weren't some good reasons to believe it and if its claims are true then the fact it comes from some other country than your own is completely irrelevant and arbitrary.
>Abrahamic religion has long been a tool of subjugation and control
this is not actually an argument against the truth and validity of the claims/beliefs themselves no matter how much people like you insist on it. In fact, in the case of Christianity, part of Jesus' whole deal is meant to be that the reason he's there is partly because the laws of God had been turned into an institution that people were just blindly following and acting out by rote without understanding the spirit of the law and that the people had fallen away from true belief. Jesus' teachings are very much the opposite of subjugation and control in fact.
>It's a primitive mentality holding us down, not enlightenment
the distinction that makes something 'primitive' or not is completely arbitrary and is just atrope from pop culture regarding for example 1st century Judea in comparison to now. You are repeating a liberal 'arc of history/end of history' view of the world that sees moral and intellectual advancement as inherently tied to technological advancement and that history is inherently an increasing moral progression somehow, inevitably tied to the movement towards western liberalism as the ultimate end-state. This is a political belief that has been simply handed down to you and inoculated into your mind as an underlying assumption that you have never really thought about or questioned, from things like the media (ironic considering what you were saying about indoctrination). In reality, you actually have no idea that people in Jesus' day were more 'primitive' to people now in your own country, you have no idea how they lived at all, what their day to day lives were like or anything. You've just got this idea that they must be primitive just because they were people in flip-flops in a desert being vaguely primitive somehow just cause tv shows, cartoons etc tell you this. In fact, many of the early Christians almost certainly acted way less 'primitive' than some people nowadays in your modern 'civillized' 'enlightened' society in which people chop their own dicks off because of what their emotional whims on text on a screen tell them or riot in the streets and steal and kill each other over words people say to them or all the endless wars or women killing their own children on a mass scale or factory farming or the way people on here will casually tell people to kill themselves and engage in all kinds of open gleeful psychopathy and sadism against people whimsically.

You people are not 'enlightened' or 'civillized' and a religious rabbi who lived in the wilderness from thousands of years ago mogs all of you in terms of not acting 'primitive.'

>>102409173
lol

>>102415168
Retard, when we actually die, Saber reaches her hand out and guides you to Avalon, everyone knows this

>>102406603 (OP)
average Portland man

>>102414149
>God burned cities to the ground for allowing pedophilia
yes, God, not man. God is allowed to do this because he's God but (You) cannot. You don't get to act on God's behalf or copy and imitate his actions - humanity trying to do this is theologically the whole problem in the first place, the original sin - you can only do what God commands. With the advent of Jesus' sacrifice and the opening of redemption for all, you can't just decide to stone a pedo to death all on your own or declare they can never be forgiven, you can only obey the lwas of the land you find yourself in (Caesar to Caesar) and the laws of God that he commands while praying for salvation. God said THOU SHALL NOT KILL so therefore you can't unless God himself commands you to. Jesus didn't command anyone to go out and hunt pedos down and kill them so it's not a thing you're supposed to do.
>When Jesus returns he throws sinners into the lake of fire
Because Christ is King so he can do that but (You) are not, so you cannot.
>modern day tolerance is a demonic value. One of the great signs of the end times is tolerance for evil.
the end times are not some mistake that man has to fight against or fix, it's inevitable and Satan getting desparate as God's day draws near and the World to Come is at hand. You are supposed to just hold fast and pray for the salvation of all the sinners and hope that you will be saved while following the laws of the land until the end comes.

>>102406603 (OP)
Reminder that 95% of the people that complain about drawings are LITERAL pedophiles.
I say this as someone who doesn't even like lolicon.

>>102409021
Stop being antisemitic

>>102406603 (OP)
well cover? this is slander. aren't you supposed to sue these people? he even gave you his real name and approximate location.

>>102415168
Your flailing only is more assumptions and projections about me. That is a desperate tactic. I simply realized even back then, that I only really accept proof to accept facts or not, even as a kid. I wound up becoming a biochemist - something I never realized I would or could have done as a kid but the interest in facts about the real truths of life itself led me here. The root thoughts that led me here, started back then. You can keep trying to blame emotions and impress that society just "needs" religion. You can write a book about it right here and now - and still be wrong. If I were to project back at you it is a fear to admit that your way of thinking and way of life is meaningless, fruitless, wasted. Religions don't produce new things to benefit society. The refusal to acknowledge that you wasted so much effort and time on extolling ancient fiction and admit to what a grand embarrassment of a life that this truly is, is what urges you to flail like this. Live your life for yourself.

The natural order of progression of humanity anthropologically, is to go from countless gods/almost everything has a god (spiritualism/animism) -> pantheons -> one god -> none needed. This reflects how over time, as we learn more about the natural world, we became less insecure about it, less needing hand-waving explanations about it and/or to resign simply "we don't and can't really-know and understand that." Life itself seems endlessly wondrous, infinitely more mysterious and magical when you know nothing of biology, which was the case for most of human history. It's absolutely understandable and natural that most of our ancestors resigned that they didn't really-really know how things worked, so some supernatural force might as well be the answer because it made not much more or less sense than known facts. If our ancestors were taught everything we know now, probably a lot of them would also start dropping off religion if they realized they did not actually need to sacrifice goats for the rain to come or to pray for a miracle cure for an illness. If anything they'd say someone who still believes in this stuff in this day and age despite having so many factual answers are the backwards ones. Which is what people logically are concluding today at a rapid pace.

Who is this guy? Is he a jap? Where is he from? Some Soutxjnmvheast Asian country?

>>102406603 (OP)
Kill all schizophrenics.
>>102409021
80% of people are non-sapient cattle who only hate what they were told to hate.

>>102416147
>I simply realized even back then, that I only really accept proof to accept facts or not, even as a kid
what proofs have you even seen to make you know for certain that God doesn't exist, that the claims of a religion like Christianity are not true - and what proof would you need to see to believe that God is real and the claims are in fact true?
>You can keep trying to blame emotions and impress that society just "needs" religion
look around at the world right now, your modern society, the state of it. This is what a world without religion looks like. This is what a world with no overarching moral and spiritual purpose and divine ruler looks like, a world where humans worship themselves and try to rule themselves, this is the end result.
>way of life is meaningless, fruitless, wasted
this is exactly what modern civillized 'enlightened' secular normalfag lives are, this is what the lives of most of the citizens around you are like and you know this is the case.
>Religions don't produce new things to benefit society
this is patently not true; the scientific method and philosophy were born out of a belief in the Greek gods, Judaism built complex laws, modes of debate and scholarship; the reason why jews have a tradition of being highy educated for example is in the fact that rabbinical Judaism and the whole dynamic of debating rabbis and their students studying the Torah engenders critical thinking and analytic skills - despite what /pol/'s impression of it is, I actually have the Talmud on my bookshelf and it's not some spooky evil magic book it's like a collection of shitpost threads and anons autistically getting into the weeds over thousands of pages about the minutiae of random lines in the Torah or a wikipedia comment section except the anons are rabbis. Christianity after that built the entirety of the whole western world and all your egalitarian vaues are derived from it, it inspired hundreds of years of architectural and artistic movements, grand structures of wonder like the Sistine chapel and cathedrals all over Europe built purely for the sake of zeal.

>The natural order of progression of humanity anthropologically, is to go from countless gods/almost everything has a god (spiritualism/animism) -> pantheons -> one god -> none needed
this isn't a 'natural order' as proven by the fact that polythiestic Hindusim in India literally still exists and is one of the world's largest religions. Furthermore Africans literally never left the animism 'stage' and never 'naturally' developed away from it after thousands of years until change was forced on them. The transition from polythiesm to monothiesm and how this took hold of the western world is purely due to the happenstance of how Christianity spread in the Roman Empire but really, the sheer appeal and eduring nature of this one monothiestic belief is noteworthy in itself but not something you want to confront or try to explain away.
>Which is what people logically are concluding today at a rapid pace.
people nowadays are not logically arriving at athiesm they are just like this for emotional reasons or because they are just brought up like that. Not many people actually reason themselves into it and most athiests who say they do are just kidding themselves and have no good strong arguments for their athiesm, they just ended up their due to it being a trend in the early 2000s in their developmental years in the exact same way zoomers now copy their own influencers.

>>102409021
Three reasons:
>schizophrenia distorts reality
Schizophrenics don't have a proper grasp on reality, thus they "cannot help themselves" as their actions do not have proper context to have malicious intent.
>schizophrenics target anyone
Schizophrenics don't specifically target the most vulnerable people in society (children). If they have a violent episode, they are more likely to attack an adult than a child due to the world having more adults than children.
>schizophrenics don't usually sexually assault people
Sexual assault is seen as one of the worst crimes a person can commit due to the lasting trauma it can instill. Schizophrenics are usually more physically violent than sexually violent, which tends to leave less trauma to their victims.

>>102417013
It wouldn't be hard to convince me god is real, he has to do something, anything, that is widely documented and non-reproducible by scientific method or explanations that also is plainly explaining that it is supernatural, god or represents him. What kind of unbelievably steep mental failing does it take, to read about the tangible physical-proof miracle stories of the Bible being exactly why, WHY, people converted, and yet there are no modern miracles. It's been 2,000 years of "trust me bro." If god wanted to save his people from damnation of not believing he exists, then the least he could do is send another messenger. As you argue, we could sure use one right about now if there really was some divine intent and purpose to our existence.

Alternatively, if he wants to trick people into not believing he's there and then punish them for it, wow some god, what a great creator who wants his race to be mules stuck kneeling before him, that refuse to go spread out into the cosmos and understand the universe he made. That's no just and kind god, that's a tyrant.

Also I can assure you that the roots of science generally go back to Greek philosophers/mathematicians, who were working outside the auspices of religion, and Enlightenment era. The pre-scientific/proto-scientific studies of alchemy and proto-physics/chemistry are neat anecdotes but not actually what kickstarted the modern incarnation of it.

>>102417515
>It wouldn't be hard to convince me god is real, he has to do something, anything, that is widely documented and non-reproducible by scientific method or explanations that also is plainly explaining that it is supernatural, god or represents him
He literally did do this, in the first century and it meets this exact criteria
>read about the tangible physical-proof miracle stories of the Bible being exactly why, WHY, people converted, and yet there are no modern miracles. It's been 2,000 years of "trust me bro." If god wanted to save his people from damnation of not believing he exists, then the least he could do is send another messenger
Jesus' whole thing is that he is the final messenger, that's literally what the whole point of the Messiah is
>As you argue, we could sure use one right about now if there really was some divine intent and purpose to our existence
good thing there's an example right there to follow then, isn't it
>Alternatively, if he wants to trick people into not believing he's there and then punish them for it, wow some god
Jesus is supposed to be self-evident proof that He really is there and still choosing not to believe it in the face of this proof is a choice and self-inflicted

Proofs of the divine truth and fact of God/Jesus that athiests literally cannot explain:
>if Jesus didn't resurrect, why did the early Christians believe it had happened so strongly that they abandoned their entire previous lives and travel the world to spread the message even when doing so would lead them to them being persecuted and executed?
>if the story was completely fabricated, why did the writers invent it being where the first people to see Jesus after the resurrection were women whose word would not have been taken seriously at all in that time period/context and who actively make the story seem less convincing and less legitimate to people at the time?
>if the story was fabricated, why is Jesus a random lower-class person of no noteworthy origin or social standing? The social status of Jesus actively harms his own claim to significance in the eyes of the people and audience at the time
>following these previous point, why was the story of Jesus so strongly convincing to people at the time anyway in spite of these points?
>if Jesus was just some random 1st century guy living in said primitive brutal 1st century society and his words were not divinely inspired, how did he come up with his moral teachings and philosophy in that context? Considering that he was an unremarkable lower-class carpenter who had never left Galilee/Nazereth and had minimal life experieces outside of that setting, what developmental experiences could have possibly lead to this random 1st century guy suddenly coming up with such a starkly divergent and anachronistically humanistic moral philosophy?
>corolloray: if Jesus never existed at all and the gospel writers just invented his teachings themselves - the same questions apply as to how they possibly came up with it
>if Christianity and its teachings are nit actually anymore profound and remarkable thanany other religion, why was it so enduring and why did it convince and appeal to millions all over the world in completely disparate countries, cultures, contexts and time periods?

>>102409626
>is that the outfit schizo?
No, and I like Gura. A lot of vtubers that I trust say that Gura is a really kind person and Cover is responsible for all of the pedobait merch that was sold by Hololive. It was management that was encouraging sleazy coombait to boost revenue and they have been doing that since before Myth even debuted.

>>102417515
>no modern miracles
Nigger there are icons of the Theotokos weeping tears of myrrh all over the world, not to mention clairvoyant elders, healing miracles attributed to modern sanits or the relics of relatively recent saints such as the crosd of Nektarios of Aegina which have literally healed the families of people I know personally, etc.
Just one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK9f4Mc1Gxo
This information isn't hard to find, you just need to stop farming gold on Reddiy, go outside and actually look without hiding behind the frantic, naive, metaphysically-incoherent dogmas and brainwashing of subversive liberal bugmen who are OBVIOUSLY taking you for a ride.
The level of wilful delusional you're expressing and your impotent denialism of facts you find inconvenient has the energy of a little girl, desperately covering her own eyes in the hopes that the monster under her bed won't be able to see her. We as a species should have outgrown this stupid little atheistic phase by now - you'd need to go back to fucking amoebas to find life forms primitive enough to have no concept of God, Christ's sake

the fuck are these two anons talking about?

>>102417457
Name one reason WHY should I give a single fuck about it. Can we heal them? - no. Are they malicious? - yes.
Kill them all, until we find a way to cure or prevent their illness.

>>102418914
>icons of the Theotokos weeping tears
This is either a fake, or somebody purposely waxed the painting in a way that it would look like tears, when condensate forms. You are a gullible moron.

>>102417515
>the roots of science... were outside the auspices of religion
Aristotle was the first "scientist" in the sense that he performed experiments to empirically verify his theories of natural philosophy, and he was absolutely not an atheist. Neither were his contemporaries such as his teacher/rival Plato, who literally scoffed as atheism as a form of what we today would call "mental illness".
And many of the fathers of the modern scientific method, such as Sir Roger Francis Bacon and Gregor Mendel, were literally Christian monks.
You don't know what you're talking about, which explains how you could be gullible enough to believe in atheism.

>>102409021
He looks like a phasecuck

>>102419094
>The fedora tipper cope, strawgrasping and confirmation bias begins
My own sponsor has personally gone to see icons like this to collect the myrrh in cotton balls and drip it out into vials, then brought them home for us to anoint ourselves. No it is not just "wax" or whatever other desperate lie you believe uncritically.
You, meanwhile, are talking out of your ass with no supporting evidence whatsoever beyond "but I don't WANT it to be real" - without bothering to verify your presumptions, of course.
You are completely retarded and easily led.

>>102410197
Godlessness. The LARPing Redditor brainlets you see itt getting apoplectic at displays of faith and launching diatribes whiteknighting for their prepubescent New Atheist ideology are a symptom of the same underlying societal, spiritual and moral disease.

Jesus told me you are a fag and Towa is the real God of this world

>>102406603 (OP)
Chat is this true???

>>102406603 (OP)
I remember this narcissistic schizo retard. He made a video claiming to have been famous around Africa for setting a world record as the youngest person in history to climb Mount Kilimanjaro, but that it was illegal for him to do and that's why it's not counted in the Guinness Book of World Records.
If ever someone needed meds.

>>102408772
Portland is the diarrhea-smeared asshole of the world. A shit-encrusted den of insane liberal faggots. I don't know how anyone could live there anymore.

>>102419389
>I want to believe in it, so I will first believe, then come up with false logic to make it sound credible
Yeah, eat shit. This is on par with fake, social media engagement bait. You are a retarded boomer, aren't you?

>collect the myrrh in cotton balls and drip it out into vials, then brought them home
Could have brought it to the lab, retard. Can't wait to find out that it's just H2O.

>No it is not just "wax" or whatever other desperate lie you believe uncritically.
You don't know how physics work? I told you it was condensate. You don't know what a condensate is? You can guide the condensate's shape and pattern if you cover the surface in some shit, pretty much drawing "tears" where you want them to be, then wait for water to form.

>talking out of your ass with no supporting evidence whatsoever beyond "but I don't WANT it to be real" - without bothering to verify your presumptions, of course. You are completely retarded and easily led.
Lol. The irony and lack of self-awareness.
I am questioning, you are believing.

>>102406603 (OP)
Hololive cohorts post this insane shit to constantly make Cover the victim and manipulate the masses, it is sad and pathetic as hell, the facts are
- Hololive has stolen ideas from smaller streamers
- Hololive has hired minors in the past
Keep your minds on the facts and don't let yourself be swayed by propaganda

>>102421731
>- Hololive has hired minors in the past
Based Pedolive.

>>102421731
cancel them on twitter sister

>>102421307
>No I will not do the bare minimum of watching a fourteen minute video
>I'd rather write fanfics and project my own dogmatic stupidity onto anon instead
kek, nice self-own retard
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OK9f4Mc1Gxo&t=9m24s
Here's a convenient timestamp for you to feel like a complete fucking idiot. Yeah, that oily yellow liquid looks and smells just like plain old dihydrogen monoxide to me, that's not a desperate crayon-munching cope at all. We tooootally need to go to a lab for confirmation, because... just because okay!?
The fact that I know basic physics (and actually watch things before talking about them so I know what the fuck I'm talking about instead of embarrassing myself like a pseud) is how I was immediately able to tell that was obviously not a condensate - unlike you, apparently. Or, you could just, you know... fucking look at the color, smell the aroma, feel the texture and viscosity, and immediately notice that it's nothing like water. Which I literally have, and (You) haven't.
Unsurprisingly, you haven't questioned anything in your life, and the positivist indoctrination/DKE is too strong for you to even realize that you've been indoctrinated. If you had, you'd have actually gotten off of Leddit and gone to see things with your own two eyes, like I have, instead of taking stupid peoples' word for it and shamelessly resorting to magical thinking and excuses that you, predictably, PRESUME to be true and never bother to test or verify.
Speaking of out-of-touch boomers, those are YOUR people, and it was their spineless, decadent, individualistic, narcissistic, cowardly liberal generation that got us into this mess in the first place. Ironically, USED to be the same sort of clown you're playing right now like a decade ago, when I was a soft-skulled, impressionable teenager; the difference is that I have common sense and started noticing that secular ideology is full of gaping holes, so I lost my faith in the cult of progress and grew out of the phase.
In stark contrast, what you ARE is a zealot of a secular religion and a hollow receptacle of enlightenment liberal bromides, which makes you indistinguishable from some superstitious oogaboog spearchucker.
Try to have some original thoughts for a change, anon - you have nothing to fear and nothing to lose. Your materialistic LARP is on its way out anyway, if conversion rates are anything to go by - and good fucking riddance, too.

>>102418171
>some retards think Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist
I wonder how pozzed retards like the one you're arguing would explain the Shroud of Turin and the fact that the imprint bears an awfully striking resemblance to His depictions in early church iconography.
Apparently, time-travelling medieval peasants anticipated that centuries later humans would have electron microscopes.

>>102415713
well anon? this is slander. you can report that to cover personally on their website, so that legal action can be taken against that schizo. ( `ワ`)b

Typical LinkedIn user

>>102406603 (OP)
BIG IF TRUE

>>102409021
This faggot retard is a well programmed golem for his psychopath masters.

Psychopaths quietly pull the strings behind every major happening and doing and schizophrenics and schizoaffectives are the only ones who notice and point out their shit.

>>102424554
You're thinking of AUTISTS, not schizos. Nice try schlomo.

>>102406603 (OP)
I love schizos I bet he fucks like a madman, given the chance

>>102424637
no I'm not
at best it's autists with schizo tendencies
it is absolutely not just straight autists who are fucking naive gullible by the book retards

>christianfags talking about pedo bad when their “Virgin Holy Mother” was a child bride and was pregnant when she was underage
Always funny to see

>>102424864
>implying the, and I quote, "Virgin Mary" ever had sex
>implying the immaculate conception was the Holy Spirit "having sex" with Mary
>"underage"
>implying the age of majority for Jews of 2000 years ago wasn't 12-13
>implying people didn't mentally mature faster in the pre-modern world
Kek
For the record, this Redditor tendency to put your foot in your mouths and be so confidently wrong about basic facts is why we laugh at you

>>102409543
4th world?

>>102409173
This person should be the face of /vt/

>>102425952
way too white for that

>>102406603 (OP)
You can tell from the shape of the text it's a sister kek

>>102406603 (OP)
me in a middle of a psychosis

>>102425407
who quote

>>102422676
It's just a water condensate on the glass. Hawaii is very humid, the shitty wooden box is not properly sealed.
You are a brain rotted degenerate. So far gone that you even lost all reading comprehension and still can't understand what I wrote to you, despite me spelling it twice.
>We tooootally need to go to a lab for confirmation, because... just because okay!?
Because if such an "extraordinary" magic event is happening, shouldn't we research it? No? Ok.
>I was immediately able to tell that was obviously not a condensate
How?
>notice that it's nothing like water.
Ok, it's dirty water then, because the glass is covered in pastor's piss and nobody cleans it. (Assuming anything you said is even true)
>Unsurprisingly, you haven't questioned anything in your life
Either this is a joke, or I am witnessing a holy miracle of retardation.
Says a guy who blindly believes in random bullshit and refuses to verify and research anything.
>indoctrination/DKE is too strong for you to even realize that you've been indoctrinated
Says a religious fucking retard, lol. What the fuck is this.
>instead of taking stupid peoples' word for it
Are those people in the room with us right now, schizo?
>shamelessly resorting to magical thinking
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SAYS THAT IT'S CRYING BECAUSE MAGIC! Do you even know what "magic thinking" means? I.. I fucking can't anymore. It's a joke, isn't it? But why is the post so long, too much of an effort for a shitpost. Is this an LLM shitpost?

Researched a bit myself, and weeping statues/icon is actually a religious brainrot party trick, aimed at dumb and impressionable retards.
Weeping crucifix in Mumbai happened due to capillary action. Water got absorbed and seeped out later, because the statue is porous and Mumbai is fucking humid.

A lot of this shit is on purpose too, prepared by church workers in advance, before the retards come during open hours to witness the "holy miracle". There is zero proofs of any "healing" or the weeping being legit.
Scammers and con artists exist, and people can lie, for one reason or the other.

A magic "heal everything" juice is spawning in some shitty church in Hawaii and NOBODY is interested in it. No gov, no glowniggers, not even researchers, nobody cares aside from a couple looneys who collect it with dirty rags.
We did it! Humanity found a way to cure all illnesses. Why is nobody gathering it and selling a flask for a price of a small country? Shouldn't "Big Pharma" cover it all up or destroy it? This magic cure is ruining their multi billion dollars empire.
And I am the crazy one for suggesting that the pastor might not be all too honest.

>>102406603 (OP)
>robin
Yeah I bet

>>102408772
It's funny how they thought legalizing hard drugs would solve anything. They had to quickly repeal that new law due to how druggies were dropping dead all over downtown.

>>102428663
>druggies were dropping dead all over downtown
Isn't it a good thing? Problem solves itself.

>>102426801
>He thinks normal water has the color, consistency and scent of myrrh
>He doesn't realize these icons are frequently brought AROUND THE WORLD for pilgrims to see, including many in the Northeastern US and Russia
BASIC. Fucking. RESEARCH, anon.
>Why won't you research it!
We do, and nothing is stopping you either.
>How could you tell that this MYRRH is not condensation
What fucking planet are you from where there are significant volumes of fucking MYRRH in the atmosphere?
>i-i-it's DIRTY water! a-a-and PISS!
We are reaching levels of cope and subhuman retardation that shouldn't even be humanly possible
>blindly believes in random bullshit and refuses to verify and research anything
Anon, I want you to re-read what I said about going out into the world to see things with your own two eyes instead of having reality drip-fed to you through the Leddit filter.
>are my fellow retards in the room with us right now, schizo?
Probably, there are lots of Redditors on this board these days
>errr idk what magical thinking is
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking
>Magical thinking, or superstitious thinking, is the belief that unrelated events are causally connected despite the absence of any plausible causal link between them, particularly as a result of supernatural effects. Examples include the idea that personal thoughts can influence the external world without acting on them, or that objects must be causally connected if they resemble each other or have come into contact with each other in the past.
Acknowledging supernatural phenomena is not inherently "magical thinking", based retard. On the other hand, thinking you can retroactively reconstitute myrrh into water because you feel like it, through the power of vibes, IS.

>>102429203
You are either doing this because I keep getting baited, or you are a non-sapient subhuman, a human imitation that somehow learned to type.

>>102426935
>still relying on the humidity cope
>capillary action!
Do you know what capillary action is, and why it cannot magically conjure MYRRH out of thin air? Especially in such great quantities? Especially in frigid northern climates where these icons are frequently displayed on the streets?
>t-t-they're just STREET MAGICIANS and CON ARTISTS and they PREPARE IT IN ADVANCE!
>[citation needed]
I personally know people with family who have been healed, retard. Consider picrel, which I fished out of my DMs just for (You). I suppose this person's aunt was just faking her hearing loss all this time? I wonder why her first thought wasn't to call up the team of research scientists she had on speed-dial to give her testimony? After all, if a fact isn't recorded in a rigorous longitudinal study published in a reputable, peer-reviewed journal, it doesn't fucking exist, right???
Go verify your cope articles for yourself. The proof of our own eyes does not cease to exist because some demoniac atheist charlatans who know their grift is falling apart desperately WANT it to go away.
>>102427073
>he thinks the myrrh is inherently what causes the healing miracles
>why don't more people care about this!?
>also please disregard me answering my own question by wheeling out a smorgusboard of prepackaged, unserious copes I'm using to justify not caring about this so I don't have to go out
>I'm sure the clergy are just lying for money or something, because Orthodox priests and especially ascetic monks are famous for living in opulence and luxury like fucking Joel Osteen and other megachurch evangeligrifters
Give it a rest, anon. Your way of thinking is outmoded. You fucking lost.
>>102429438
>impotent seething
Concession accepted

>>102429664
Alright, here is the deal. I will break your legs in multiple places, also bending your knees the other way. Then you will show me how you heal them with your magic Jesus juice.
Can you do it?

>>102429940
It would be a miracle if you could break a toothpick, Rajesh

>>102430079
Answer the question, mentally ill retard.

>>102430117
I mean, you're welcome to try and find me, raging atheist-chama. I'd unironically welcome a bit of martyrdom. There are far less idiotic ways to witness miracles though.
And no I won't be doxing myself on 4chinz, because that would be gay. Sorry to disappoint you. But good luck finding me through the power of Trusting The Science™

>>102430251
So, your legs will stay broken, aren't they? Why won't you break them yourself and record the instant healing?
You must be stronger than a Rajeesh, and you mentioned wanting to be a martyr. Are you just full of shit?

>>102416147
>biochemist
Know that there's tens of thousands of biochemists that are way better than you yet are religious
Imagine being inferior to the people that believe in fiction

>>102430302
>So, your legs will stay broken, aren't they
Tuckered out from seething all night, saar?
>Why won't you break them yourself and record the instant healing
Because I'm not going to blasphemously play around with miracles and disrespect the Holy Spirit by treating Him like my personal healslut, just to try and win an "argument" with a demented streetshitter who'd handwave away the recording by calling it "AI generated" anyway? But again, you're free to track me down and have a spastic episode if you truly believe in the power of your towering intellect and søyence to answer literally every question in the universe.
And like I said - there are much easier ways to witness miracles. They happen literally every day. Just go to an Orthodox church or monastery and ask if there are any unglorified living saints or clairvoyants nearby that you could speak to or something. They aren't even bombastic setpiece events or anything, they typically happen without much fanfare.

>>102430477
Fulls of shit LARPer, lol. You can't heal shit with your fantasies, and you know it.
You know who else continue being delusional, ignoring the proofs that should dispel the delusion? Mentally ill people.

>>102406603 (OP)

>>102430579
>"I will find you over the internet and break your kneecaps :D"
>lol okay sure, come and do it retard
>"LOL this PROVES you don't believe somehow! (YOU) are a LARPer!!!"
No, anon, I don't "know it" - i.e., share your schizoid hallucinations. That's what makes them YOUR hallucinations.
Furthermore, *I* wouldn't be the one doing the healing, moron. Nor is any other human. That's why it's miraculous.
Lastly, if you're so confident in your delusions, then again - why don't you go and see the proof for yourself? I've suggested this like three times now, and you can't seem to present a valid reason why you shouldn't. Could it be, you're scared that if you see the truth with your own two eyes instead on unquestioningly parroting Redditor apologia you won't be able to maintain your cope narrative? Come on, don't make excuses and pussy out.

>>102430762
I presented you an option how you can show the whole world this miracle healing, if giving me your address is too scary for a sissy like you. Why aren't you doing it? It's your lucky day, martyr.

>>102430805
So you're making excuses and pussying out? Thought so, KEK.
I knew you didn't have the courage of your convictions. Shame, but the truth will always be there for you to see once you've found your balls.
All shitposting aside for a second - no, anon, you didn't give me any such option. The whole world can already witness these miracles with their own two eyes, and relatively easily at that. You're just begging an anon to dox himself for no reason, in a way that won't further prove anything and profits no one, solely for the sake of his own pride. Sorry, but I'm not that weak-minded and that's not how it works - it's only martyrdom if I suffer or die for His sake, not my own. The logos of the universe is not our plaything to be trifled with.

>>102409021
Pedos are normal people who decide to do evil. Schizos can be somewhat normal people if they take their meds

>>102431067
Genuinely wondering, why are you like this?
Is it fear of death or lack of purpose in your life? What led you to be so committed to fantasies, what are you trying to compensate for?>>102431067
Genuinely wondering, why are you like this?
Is it fear of death or lack of purpose in your life? What led you to be so committed to fantasies, what are you trying to compensate for?

>>102431131
Putting aside the buzzwords:
>fear of death
Death was a lot less scary when I thought nothing mattered and there would be no consequences. It's only when I realized the truth that I began to worry.
>lack of purpose
Without the transcendent, and more specifically without a cosmic teleology and logos, nobody and nothing in existence can have "purpose", by definition.
But to answer your question simply: I know that there is a proper, righteous and correct cosmological order that is not yet being perfectly upheld. I wish to see it come to fruition and take my own appointed place within it alongside my brothers and sisters.
That's all. And if you take nothing else from this conversation, just know that you are always welcome to give up the Hitchens-ian fairy tales and come join us any time you like.

>>102431326
So, it is lack of purpose. Could have at least came up with your own shit, but you stopped searching and questioning, settling down for a pre-made religion, like a lazy asshole. Lame.
>there is a proper, righteous and correct cosmological order that is not yet being perfectly upheld. I wish to see it come to fruition and take my own appointed place within it alongside my brothers and sisters.
It indeed exists, I don't need old fairy tails to tell me that. Anybody with a brain can tell, simply by observing the world around us. And this order sucks massive ass, it's a piece of flawed, senseless shit.

>>102414149
How do I know you're not Satan trying to justify murder?

>>102431326
>I know that there is a proper, righteous and correct cosmological order that is not yet being perfectly upheld.
How do you know you know?

>>102431397
>I will now ignore what you actually said and substitute my fanfiction
Anon, what's the point of asking a question if you're just going to ignore the answer?
I don't make shit up like you do. I care about what's true, not inventing delusions just for the sake of being original and special. Because I'm not a prepubescent boy who's desperate to be unique and stand out for attention.
>But you stopped searching and questioning
Because I found the correct answer, retard. That's when you're supposed to grow up, put aside your doubt because you're better than that, and stop being uncertain of the ground beneath your own feet.
Compulsively searching and questioning that which you already understand is literally synonymous with rejecting truth itself. Doing so compulsively and obsessively, just because you've been fed facile liberal mythology about Whig historiography and the supremacy of the intellect, is literally self-destructive drug addict behavior. You're enslaving yourself to your passions and your ego, and it's just plain unimpressive, uninteresting and unstimulating to anyone who's managed to mature into a functioning adult.
>I don't need old fairy tales
Your entire weltanschauung is entirely comprised of fairy tales from three to five hundred years ago that have outstayed their welcome.
What you need is the truth - the eternal and universal truth that transcends any particular time or place. And that truth is teleological and metaphysical, not solely material, unthinking or coincidental. Anything less than that is dull and shallow.
Get back to me when you're ready to move on from your Promethean LARP. Until then, stop wasting my time.

>>102409384
>Gura is as American as Apple Pie
That's what she wants you to believe

>>102431542
>come anon, let us reconstruct all of epistemology
I will save us both a lot of time by simply saying that it is pre-rational. The sense is innate and fundamental, like asking someone how they know that they exist and have a soul. Or in our case, you might as well be a blind man asking someone with eyes what vision is like.
It is literally a sign of dysfunction in the posterior frontal cortex and elevated mutational load to lack that sense, by the way.

It's fascinating to me how the athiest ITT arguing about the chemistry of the weeping icons ITT who was originally responding to me made a conscious decision to avoid my post presenting the divine proofs of the story of Jesus in and of itself that athiests can NEVER explain >>102418171 and just avoided it by instead getting into the weeds over something more niche, minor and more easily dismissable like the weeping icons.

Regardless of the actual veracity of the weeping icons the facts of the Jesus story in-and-of itself in the context of its time period, how it happened and the fact that it was so strongly believed and spread as truth with such a staying power literally cannot be explained or refuted and I have never seen anyone ever be able to answer or refute those questions I posed. Disproving that a painting somewhere is magically crying doesn't somehow mean you get to dismiss these questions and the claims of Jesus entirely. It just means you disproved a crying painting, nothing else.

>>102406647
fpbp

ITT: scientist anon tries to reason with religious schizophrenic
Thanks for this entertaining dialogue it made my day (I consider myself agnostic and have nothing against religious people if they aren't fanatics or lack higher brain functions and critical thinking skills)

>>102432367
let me guess anon: the earth is flat as well?

>>102434473
No? why would I think the Earth is flat? what does that have to do with anything?

i’m not reading allat

>>102438568
TLDR: Jesus says everyone is a fag and Towa is the real God

>>102438618
>>102434473
>>102421798
>>102410573
>>102406603 (OP)

Fake news.
All of that.
It's all fake news,you
toxic,parasocial nimrods.
That is all fake news.
And somewhere deep
down,you know it.

ALL OF YOU ARE FAKE NEWS!
SAD!,...SO SAD!

Damn it all to Hell!,....
Freaking toxic internet schizo-trolls!,...
ALL OF YOU!,...I HATE YOU!,...
GO,....FUCK,...YOURSELVES!,...
GET!,...SOME!!,....HELP!!!

It's just too bad that,
in some sort of way,you stupid,
parasocial,toxic human puppets,...
SUCK ON A HUGE SACK
FULL OF HORSE COCKS!

Meds,E!

KEK.

>>102438870
based

>>102406603 (OP)
What?

>>102438931

THIS?,...Is based?
>>102438870
Wow. Your opinion,not mine.
But at least it's the thought that counts.

>>102438977
Rack off.
Get off The Internet.
Go outside!
Go take a walk,
or ride a bike,
or something.
And you can touch
some grass as well
while you're at it.

Hmph!,...
Next time,...
Stop and think first
before you reply,you,...
"WORTHLESS FUCKING
PIECES OF SHIT!"

Meds,E!

KEK.

(#StopAndThink)

HOLY MOLY!
THIS IS SO
TOTALLY A
SHILL THREAD!

Rack off,shill thread trolls.

Meds,E!

KEK.

And look at this for a while,
and realize that you are,...NOTHING!
>>102438870

>>102432367
While I agree that the nature of Christianity's origin is itself extremely compelling, you'd be a fool to discount how much more convincing it is for many to have a literal healing miracle happen right in front of their face, or be healed themselves. One is tangible and present, the other is far more abstract and therefore easily dismissable, even if they can't answer it.
Why do you think Christ Himself healed people as a major part of His ministry, rather than JUST give His parables, teach about scripture, etc.?
Oh yeah, he also didn't disprove the crying "painting", so your point is moot.
>>102434473
Christians knew the earth was spherical almost from the start because the Greeks knew the earth was spherical for centuries before Christ.
Then Christendom discovered and proved the heliocentric model, only for retards to invent literal fanfiction centuries later about them SUPPRESSING their own discovery in cases like Copernicus.
Atheists are not smart people.