>>102426549 (OP)*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking>https://vt.poi.cat/Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/>https://streamscharts.com/
>>102426523anon if the mosquito is large then it's a male and those ones don't bite, they're pretty much just a nuisance but they're harmless
the one's you should be wary of are the small ones, those are the females which suck the blood out of you
just like in real life
To respond to people, off topic BTW, the mosquito or cockroach, just fucking kill it, bare feet, bare hands just kill it, you can just use soap and wash
>>102426565I threw a shoe on it and it’s twitching under the shoe it looks creepy as shit, there’s it’s long and I mean long ass fucking leg laying around too, oh my god
>>102426612man up anon it's already dead, just lay some tissue over it and flush it in the toiler
you got sharp aim though
There is a pesticide free mosquito spray these days mosquito-man anon. Might be too late to go buy it at the store right now but it's cool because it's apparently just mint and rosemary but does work great on mosquitos and you can rest assured you're not gonna poison your bathroom and breathe it in. The little shits completely freeze up and drop with even a very light near-miss of it.
Not great for craneflies however and I hoped it would be. But those guys are slow and easy to swat, they just leave a mess sometimes but they still are irritating because they fly around like schizos all night and might bump right into you like retards even if you try to ignore them.
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I guess those milestone rewards ain't coming
>>102426612Anon you got fucked by a dude mosquito it's over
>>102426717They are innocent babies.
Mumei should join
>>102426612Are you sure it's not just a crane fly / mosquito hawk?
>>102426717Something really strengthened their bond.
>>102426701It'll come, it just won't be soon. The 300k milestone at least
>>102426746>Isabelle Ironsides the wheelchairtuber
>>102426779it’s dead already but no because all of the crane flies I’ve seen in my life are smaller and don’t have patterns on their body / wings, the fucker that I killed looks genuinely terrifying, I don’t even know where it came from it’s my first time seeing one of those motherfuckers
Polka horsegirl love
https://youtu.be/UntWycqbQwg
>>102426192prove it's bad
>>102426746Nightreign is 3 person
>>102426839I was just googling largest biting mosquitos out of curiosity and apparently some of the largest types (gallnipper, elephant mosquito etc) are spreading in range from the warmer climate. Could be something like that.
>>102426809>Biboo AND Mori coinciding off-days Nice, no stream tomorrow
>>102426885They can play Fortnite.
>>102426879same game, similar duration
Yesterday's has 112% ratio of likes to average ccv
Today's has 85% ratio of likes to average ccv
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>>102426909derp forgot image
>>102426885She should just sit in the background making autistic noises for three hours then, would be time well spent.
Or more realistically just step in and switch out for someone if one of the three wanted to end and the others stayed. Actually if she did this without debuting officially or announcing it that would be the hypest thing. Sana technically streams a bit now and then but isn't like officially back at all and nobody is counting on her to do much of anything and are just happy to see her if she shows up. That sounds like it would be pretty ideal for sh*chi to have basically.
>>102426909>>102426920Are you retarded? Is this an act? Do you know what linear time is?
>>102426930>linear timeas opposed to logarithmic or quadratic time?
>>102426422??? You trying to say it's not botted?
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marine is about to announce a whole bunch of stuff tonight that's going to kick-off another growth-round for her channel, so for posterity here's the state of her channel before it all kicks in
she's at 1.854B views, with her last tick having been on the 6th July (18,987,027 views) so she's overdue for a 20M view tick todayish which will have her re-take the lead over the hololive corporate channel even before the new stuff comes out
she's been getting 2 of these a month for a 38M per month growthrate
subwise she's reclined down to between 30k and 40k a month growth, from the 90k to 100k per month rate she was holding for about 8 months starting last birthday/anniversary period. It'll be interesting if she can get back up to that 90k to 100k ish mark or further, but it'll depend on whether her song goes viral again. If she insists on making MVs for old album tracks I think the chances are pretty slim, but if she has some new stuff cooking then she's got a shot
>>102426717Owl.....please.....
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also the kumarine short has hit 100M
>>102426991What's the ETA to pass the shark? Under 2 years?
John Cat is literally licking every EN girls' toes
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>>102426990Ah, so you think that these 90k views of the dino homo are actually legitimate then.
>>102426659she's coming back next year trust
>>102426909that's literally not a proof of anything
Kanata been streaming for 4+ hours with 7.6k likes and average probably 20k+
if anything nimi's rates tell us she's being culled in a different rate instead of being botted
>>102427038They had a whole 20k people watching them today, in the single POV stream. They're doing worse than a lot of the SQUAD/SALT collabs. That's an impressive drop in so little time.
Huh, so Mori made a Boku no Pico reference that Biboo didn't understand
So we can assume that Mori knows about 4chan and that Biboo is either a turbo normie or really young
>>102427065Anon, comparing EN and JP is always pointless. Do not discuss /#/ if you're a retarded tourist.
Always compare EN to EN and JP to JP.
poor girl fooled by the engine
>>102427084>we can assume that Mori knows about 4chanwhere the fuck do you people come from? Even if you ONLY know Mori and not her roommate, her cover from the Needy Girl Overdose game made it extremely clear that she's embedded in 4chan culture
>>102427026depends what growthrate she picks up to after all the stuff she announces today. worst case scenario about a year
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>>102427101she would have been better off doing another Umamusume stream
>>102426659This is so much prettier than the CC model
Still wouldn't watch her though
>>102427142just stating factual information
>>102427090>Always compare EN to EN and JP to JP.wrong
you are a fucking tourist who just wants to do what is convenient without any understanding
>>102426991marine is just cover's yt account at this point. All her numbers are not hers
>>102427138This girl is Flip, no?
>>102427065Nips don't know the like button exists
>>102426717Naplings having to sit and spin with mythbores is funny
>>102427187she produces all her own stuff, totally independent of cover. it's sad that she's more competent by herself than a corporation with 500 employees or whatever they're up to
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>>102427084Nigga we know specific posts she made on /jp/ pre Myth announcement.
If you go and listen to /a/ sings there’s one where you can literally hear her
>>102427276did she post tits
>>102427133nikos face looks pretty good, also chihaya when she's not looking at an angle
Just like that? Hololive wins forever?
>>1024272605 seconds in the stream and she already cute
>>102427316was there ever any doubt?
>>102427316when did this "just like that" thing become a staple shitpost
>>102427138She is just another pump and dump
Biboo next btw
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>>102427117>>102427084About that, that reminded me of this
>pic related where Millie and the NijiEN retards thought they could own 4chan by pretending to be 4chan retards and insult their own.
It even coined some neat insults like
>FlopSoleilMillie is truly the mastermind of NijiEN, think about it: along with organizing this…
>if it was Petra that leaked the infamous discord screen, it was from Millie window>Millie was the one replying to Selen’s infamous last post with “are you sure it was not you failing to get permission!?!”>Millie was the one making the “Nijisanji is NOT a black company (according to Wikipedia definition)” streamEverything points to Millie being the true mastermind but Elira got all the blame
>>102427351two more weeks this time for sure, sis
Who is to blame for vedal?
>>102427084>So we can assume that Mori knows about 4chanAre you an unironic justchad newfag or something? Mori is a confirmed 4chan oldfag.
Also all of them know about 4chan but how much they have stayed/posted here varies.
>>102427368Engagement bait is harsh
unironically EN do mog JP in this aspect
>>102427368Mostly correct but Cecilia also belongs in the graduation queue. Been seeing a lot of doomposting about her recently.
is there a reason why when marine acts sexo it’s le based queen but when kiara does the same it’s twitch e whore blah blah blah?
>>102427338not a shitpost literally just a factual statement
>>102427385No, she managed to get 3 of the better gamers in EN
If she was playing with Nerissa/Fuwawa/Mococo she wouldn't be saying that
>>102427234>totally independent of cover
>>102427368Liz is clearly gonna be next.
>>102427234>totally independent of cover.
>>102427387That's just mindbroken ligger
I wish gakumas would become the hololives next uma musume, I need to see ina play gakumas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1x2atHlb78
>>102426549 (OP)what's with the Marine image? will this thread really last two more hours?
>>102427030Senchou is bitter that the brat didn't choose her after their one night stand, i guess the brat didn't like her performance compared to Gorosan's
>>102427368I don't get how shiori is counted as less of an otaku than girls like kronii, cc, gigi, etc when she's spent more time in japan and surrounded in it's culture (for better or worse) than most members in the branch
>>102427311>chihaya when she's not looking at an angleshe's glancing at my dick anon
>>102427368That's just jap corpo slave and white women
>>102427454her announcement is in an hour and we're sill on page 1, so i guess we're good
>>102427419Why would they be mindbroken about her?
will roa collab with saba?
>>102427454How fast do you think /vt/ is these days? We won't even make it to bump limit before Marine's stream
wait what, is marine DIRECTLY overlapping Roa? Hoeh? thats brutal, who do I watch first
>>102427454marine has the biggest numbers (subs) after gura graduated so she can be on any op
you know what, i don't mind Rissa not streaming cause then the jailbird TL that does the mangas i follow are releasing chapters
REMOVE THAT SHIRT MIOSHA, LET ME SEE THEM DIDDIES
>>102427030Since Shion got some of the highest views during her graduation announcement and graduation event itself (even beating Aqua's graduation announcement stream ccv), is there any hope that she can defeat Sakuna's world record of 383k today??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
>MIo and Foobs are lovers
>Mio thinks of Ogayu as a little sister while Ogayu thinks of her as a mama
>>102427084If anything I'd be more worried if Biboo knows well about Boku No Pico, her being clueless about that abomination is actually a good thing.
>>102427594why do JP have such high redebut numbers when their eventual numbers they stabilize at are very middling?
>>102427551Name or manga? How do you know they're a jailbird?
>>102427351>Biboo next btwqrd?
>>102427537Its revenge for "that" night when they both got drunk...
>>102427101don't feel bad for her
she's a part of that crowd
>>102427608Boku No Pico is an animated episode about an ojisan and kids and the rest is history
>>102427357>It even coined some neat insults like>>FlopSoleilMy favorite trivia about that shitshow.
They were legit just insulting their own co-workers under the guise of le ironic shitposting
>>102427637schizos are running rrats on how biboo and jurard interacted before based on his post under kanata biboo kidney stone tweet
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>>102427515You don't have to be a ligger to see she hasn't got long left in Hololive. Runt + all the ENs who could keep up with her wit have all left. She's left with retards now and only has GG left. If GG gets burnt out or goes on a break that will directly affect CC. Fauna, being the lonely solo streamer she was, never got affected by the troubles of others around her. If anything she thrived and grew in such an environment for she was the only active and consistent one streaming. CC doesn't have the luxury or the normalfag pull Fauna had and she's pretty boring solo.
Shion can surprisingly pull out a in insanely huge audience in special events like her graduation for example
.. I believe she can do that again today.
>>102427664sisters will literally pull at anything. I mean what, does that mean kanata talked to him too? come on
>>102427616vtubing is larger in Japan, so more tourists, but there's much more competition in terms of talent and who viewers want to watch for daily streams
>>102427234So how many of you know that Cover doesnt do shit when it comes to birthday lives or other 3d lives and songs. They have to finance stuff by themselve or take out loan via yagoo pay
>>102427630oh i don't know, maybe just a guess, maybe it's just the voices in my head, can't quite put my finger on it but maybe, just maybe
>>102427695You should take your meds. What made you think they have anything to do with Nerissa or Jailbirds? Jesus, only diagnosed schizos come here these days.
the song that saved hololive:
https://youtu.be/R2yOpkIGTeg?si=h5_bWF8Bke8lXLDD
Nijisanji:
EN rapist :(
JP rapist :o
>>102427664It does mean that Jurard is comfortable doing that with Biboo. He would never do that with FWMC. I think that's telling in a way.
>>102427616Same thing can goes to why Japan doesn't have 500M USD domestic box office for a single movie.
Their market is big, but not big enough.
>>102427734Chloe isn't a bully
>>102427735I think she will debut, not sure though, just a guess
>>102427682You're not gonna convince me to watch JP
>>102427724I'm sure he's used to getting ignored, as well.
>>102427387I don't want to shit on her because I like her / watch most of her streams, but I'm disappointed with how she handled the last 6 months or so. She completely dropped the ball with streaming while Gigi was able to keep things in order. CC is not really a singer so she should prioritize streaming but seems like she's just not very organized at all
Take Nerissa for example. Fine, she barely streams, but her fanbase is aware she's busy recording a ton of songs, participating in the world tour, etc
>>102427711you're right maybe i should take my meds, i might need to go to an optometrist as well since i've been seeing things
>>102427724>replying to some random person on Twitter is tellingjust go back to your cuckposts, thinking isn't your strong suit
>>102427664is so funny twitter account was splitted shortly after jurard interacted with kanata lmai
>>102427759>NO YOU DON'T GET IT, THINK OF DUBOOIIISSSSSSS
>>102427664They're both close with Shiori and also fellow DMC fans. Biboo was also the first Hololive member he said hbd to, so that might mean something
>>102427664>biboo and jurard interacted before based on his post under kanata biboo kidney stone tweetWell that's just absolute horseshit lmao I'm surprised the retards are actually trying to push that into becoming something more
>>102427616To this day no vtuber in the world has ever surpassed Aqua's record of 750k and Sakuna's record of 383k honestly impressive since its the same person kek even fucking Gura/Saba failed to come close..
>>102427770The first was Gura actually
>>102427778Please stop noticing
>>102427734Why did she abandon her original artist?
>>102427748I didn't ask you
>>102427787jurard fucked gura?
best fg roadster solo?
https://youtu.be/KsvoDL8QT2c?si=ojD022vjqWG2KgfT
>>102427744I mean there's alot of holo fans that do TL, there's also an Onigirya who does some of other mangas I read, I at least think that it's commendable how they support their oshis
>>102427803Now that's an amusing rrat lol
That family tree is getting complicated
This thing is girl songs only?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
>>102427724Does anyone here have the "Biboo is for TOTAL HOMO DEATH!" post?
>>102427841So he has a history of replying to Biboo
>>102427770You should post your headcanon on r/Hololive, Twilight
So why does one of the most popular nijihomo groups fail hit 40k with a live, but we're supposed to believe a group of literal who homos from anycolor can hit 200k on theirs?
>>102427841>>102427855The gura one was in 2023 retard
He's tried this shit with a bunch if girls
>>102427841Did Biboo ever reply to him, or at least notice him?
>>102427875she's still going anon, she just added Mayo doog and Suzy
>>102427888Completely ignored.
>>102427679>Shes pretty boring soloNo she isnt
Jurard cuckposter is back at SEA time
>>102427867Does he still do it? Last i checked he was only cowardly replying to the holoEN account for birthday wishes
>>102427888Why would you even ask that ? Fucking newfag just ignore the cuckposter
>>102427925The fuck you replying to me for? I wasn't asking you fuck off
>>102427925>t. the cuckposter
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both most coolest and cutest holomem ever, zero competition
>>102427734Man, they took what would be one of the most unique designs from Nijisanji and turned into slop
>>102427920ya he can only reply to the en account now because half of the girls have him blocked after being annoying
>>102427943looking forward to this loli's 3D
Who had the most FEMDOM potential in HoloEN:
- Ina
- Ame
- Mori
- Kiara (doing it rn actually)
PROMISE:
- Kronii
- IRyS
- Mumei
- Fauna
Advent:
- Nerissa
- Shiori
Justice:
- Liz
- Raora
- Cecilia
>>102427664There are pebbles in recent jurard cover
lmao at holoturds seething at jurard the bull
>SEA hours
>homopaggers posting
NUKE SEA
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>>102427954absolutely based
>>102427983his fan mascot retard
>>102427965>MythKiara
>PromiseKronii
>AdventShiori
>JusticeRaora I guess?
Kronii > Shiori >> Kiara >>>> Raora
None of them are actually into it, I am rating only based on how much they've exhibited femdom elements for fun and how many times they've acted submissive (which reduces femdom points)
Kinda looks like Mio is literally showing the divide between the Micomet clique and PekoMarin clique
>>102427875She just added FWMC, she was about to add Biboo but I didn't get why she didn't
And there it is the subhuman flipnigger
You know, with all the AI gen spam this cuckposter does, xhe probably isn't a flip, but a jeet.
>>102428045god wtf is this ai sloppa shite, why are you like this
Jurard with IRyS makes literally zero fucking sense at all, at least use one of the JP homos she's interacted with
>>102427875Do you really expect her to include members she interacts with 2 times a year at best?
>>102428057>she was about to add Biboo but I didn't get why she didn'trrats?
>>102428067she has to pass n3 before she gets added
>>102428045People here will think this is NTR while Irys getting gangbanged by faceless men isn't.
>>102428067Under the "Members I want to protect"
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>>102428031also a kintama joke
MIOSHA WHY ARE YOU ADDING A MALE AAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>102427401>>102427406what do you dummies even think cover does?
they didn't produce any of her music
they didn't produce any of her MVs
they didn't produce any of her shorts
they didn't produce any of her streams
everything on the channel is produced by marine
this is what you can credit cover with:
cover produced the houshou marine model in 2019 by paying akasa ai to do the char designs and the riggers to rig, and produced the subsequent 3D model as well and all the updates to all the models. they also act as her agency that all corps have to go through when it comes to negotiating sponsorship opportunities.
aside from that all they do is veto stuff if they think what marine wants to do goes against holo's image. Marine is really forthcoming about how she's self-produced and that cover randos only get involved when they're vetoing her ideas
>>102428045kek they hate IRyS so much
she is too powerful
>>102428101Anon, easy there on the newline smashing. It is not really necessary in this site, you know?
>>102428036You are correct. Well hitting your fans playfully doesn't count I guess
>>102428101No need to hit enter twice for a new line here, redditbrown.
Anyway you're wrong on almost every point, I'm not getting into it with you though because you're clearly a threadshitter.
>>102428142try watching a stream sometime
>>102428122This was stolen from the trash thread thread looking at it now
we ignoring new hologras now
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1946857615444627927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
>>102428066Did you really expect her to off-collab with a members shse interacts like 2 times a year a best?
>>102428171boring clique shit
>>102427867>The gura one was in 2023 retardHe hasn't even debuted yet
>>102428064Anon..irys allowed him to comment
>>102428168The Hologra poster isn't here?
>>102428198You're both wrong, first was Mori
>>102428168I have no clue what is happening on screen except mori getting beaten up every 3 second
It's full of blond girls on the left
>>102428168it was posted earlier by another anon but then Miosha started streaming so I had to watch her
>>102428179>honorary JPTerrible argument
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heh, ROFMAO failing to beat 40k with their free part goes to show how a absurdly unrealistic was the heroes wave beating 100k with their live
>unless anon is right and they got “crowdstriked” again after that
>>102427904Compared to Fauna is what I meant. Nimi is at her best solo. The recent Avengers collabs are a fun gimmick for now but Naplings will get irritable soon if the collabs become a regular thing and a huge part of Nimi's content. This is the opposite problem CC has where she's generally at her best with someone else. GG is the only good collab partner. Raora and CC just feels forced. Kronii and CC are okay but it's nothing like CC had with Fauna, Mumei and even Gura.
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>>102428224better luck next time
AIEEEEE; WHO IS THIS SEXY MENACING FEMINIZED UNKNOWN GIRL?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
>>102428168>japanese "humor"
>>102428222So you were wrong?
>>102428219But nice try Flipanon
>>102428187if you ever watched streams you'd know marine is self-produced.
e.g. the shorts on her channel exist because she contacted the people to make the shorts, and she did so out of her own initiative. e.g. the ones by riku are literally done by someone she's known since high school
cover doesn't make the shorts for her. they're not involved. The reason marine has shorts and some other girls don't have shorts isn't because cover pays more attention to marine, it's because marine goes out and does stuff herself. Cover does not produce marine's content, marine does
again, if you ever watched any streams you would know this, but you don't watch streams, so you don't know
>>102427984ngl this bitch got commitment to a t.
I've encountered a very bizarre phenomenon. Thumbnails are different depending on which browser I'm using.
>>102428278it's just yt a/b testing
>>102428253>Coverlol, capitalized it!
Anyway, I’m at a loss here. One of the points of pride for the holo fandom is the fact the girls have the ability to self produce and one of the biggest criticism to the “four heavenly king” era was that most content was scripted.
What’s exactly your point?
>>102428229I brought this up earlier and nobody bothered replying.
Surprise surprise, shortly after I did, the cuckposter started spamming xis AI porn.
>>102427803yeah and thats why she graduated because jurard moved to biboo now
kys now!
>>102428233least delusional lignig
>>102428288some people don't watch streams so they don't know girls self-produce, like the people I replied to
>>102428229Did Riku forget to activate his bots or was it really grim?
>>102428036if you think shiori is leaving you are a dumb mfker. That girl just renovated her entire house she is in for a long run buddy
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>>102427664The schizos are attacking biboo now? Don't they love using her as their shit posting cover? Guess pebbles are learning they aren't as safe as they think.
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>>102428321Browser 2
The different thumbnails look ai generated too
>>102428290>nobody bothered replyingi didn't notice cause I was watching streams
they've always been blatant with their concert previews but ROF-MAO getting this low? their engine not working right?
did they think that it would work out cause that's their hottest group and didn't unleash the same they use on those niji liver 3D reveals
>>102428290I mentioned this in another context yesterday too: Deron Koshien numbers (
>>102372520)
Here are her numbers, updated
2021
>35569 :: 2021-07-18 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、1年目春。再始動!#1【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: TRTGKB2935c>27240 :: 2021-07-21 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、1年目夏の大会編。#2【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: N6-YNP2WRXY>26000 :: 2021-07-23 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、1年目秋の大会編。#3【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: xmFVd34RIbE>27364 :: 2021-07-25 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、2年目春、新入生編。#4【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: H874CQ5folg>22258 :: 2021-08-02 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、2年目夏の大会編。#5【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: k4wEZZqQzKQ>9877 :: 2021-08-04 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、2年目秋の大会編。#6【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: wCDEVWGBh_c>19901 :: 2021-08-07 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、2年目冬のスカウト編。#7【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: 7XUSlksOu_8>25701 :: 2021-08-08 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、3年目最後の夏編。#8【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: mm7yI_iiP3E>27017 :: 2021-08-08 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、3年目夏の甲子園ラストまで。#9【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: RX4rHdEpUmU2023
>82483 :: 2023-07-09 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#1 V西2023、1年目春!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: V2K4BfXdhyM>33296 :: 2023-07-11 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#2 V西2023、1年目夏!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: 1dMEpaQrQoI>42157 :: 2023-07-15 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#3 V西2023、1年目冬~2年目新入生【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: -c-U5IabQWg>34981 :: 2023-07-20 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#4 V西2023、2年目夏【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: pbfo9xeusHI>21888 :: 2023-07-22 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#5 V西2023、2年目秋【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: 4-Ebf7EYhMg>18286 :: 2023-07-29 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#6 V西2023、2年目冬~3年目新入生【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: y7Dx1U4g7m0>15239 :: 2023-08-01 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#7 V西2023、3年目春【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: HZm9W2C3F7k>28951 :: 2023-08-05 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#8 V西2023、3年目夏【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: VpPIfyQnWf8>40657 :: 2023-08-06 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#9 V西2023、3年目甲子園【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: e5RzjDvvKrM2025 so far
>62725 :: 2025-06-16 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#1 V西2025、1年目入学式!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: 0GNzYP9eLyg>29885 :: 2025-06-24 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#2 V西2025、1年目夏大会!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: IO-QrH-wyqY>25928 :: 2025-06-29 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#3 V西2025、1年目秋大会!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: dtnGnj19CiU--> something seems to have changed in the start of July because that's when most started underperforming
>14997 :: 2025-07-04 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#4 V西2025、1年目冬~2年目新入生!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: JK5SrQBhAwg>8198 :: 2025-07-10 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#5 V西2025、2年目春・夏!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: tr5MFvQ-x8k>10308 :: 2025-07-13 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#6 V西2025、2年目秋!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: TCCksRHmi1E>6415 :: 2025-07-14 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#7 V西2025、2年目冬~3年目新入生!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: xnCqrbQwXd0>6761 :: 2025-07-17 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#8 V西2025、3年目春&夏!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: btKHk5iTAQ0>18059 :: 2025-07-18 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#9 V西2025、3年目甲子園!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: qBFxp91ufzoThat last one might have been some "grand finale" because that's what explains this jump in the chart (which amusingly and likely coincidentally happened right after I made the post linked above).
Even then, that grand finale failed to beat 20k
>>102428233>avengersKill yourself
>>102428321>>102428336it's a/b testing, you can do it automatically. you upload different thumbnails to yt, see how they each perform, then go forwards with the best performing one after the initial testing period.
if you had a yt channel you'd know this
watch the princess bless your ears
https://www.youtube.com/live/vXA6u6L_quw?si=I1YQoszklWLxvEWu
>>102428317She wouldn't survive in indie scene because of her ntr fetish, she is in holo for long run
>>102428233there are Holos that are best in collabs, but I'm not sure if I would say Cecilia is one of them.
>Start with Gozaru
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
>>102428229as soon as anything like this happens
>biboo related posts goes up>cover doesnt support talents goes up>Jurard + cuckposting goes upCoverdrones are so idiotic its really pathetic. Look numberfags Look at this post the real botting thing is happening and none of you cunts will finger point this shit on X because you guys dont have the balls to do it.
>>102428387>/live/BEGONE
I was already watching her
>>102428396we are not horses we are human
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>>102428321^ Ok I tried on a third browser and it gave me this again
I think this is different because I'm signed into youtube here.
>>102428336Weird
>>102428391100%
She should move to jp and start getting singing and dance lessons from the get go and give up whatever bullshit reason is tying her to NA right now.
>>102428375That seems like total bullshit
>>102428308>some people don't watch streams so they don't know girls self-produceAnon, that's one of the most often talked topic in this thread in the context of solo lives (for instance).
More than just that, Mumei EXPLICITLY said that, surprised on how she expected content to be produced and provided by the company but, instead, she getting full freedom (and the responsibility) of producing it.
Maybe you think you are talking with the fandom in general but this place is aware of that. The only disagreement is clearly on your implication that if the girl self produces the company has no role, that's silly.
>>102428396You can post this one too Phasebro
Have fun with your SEA friends on twitter
>>102428391The talented people know their worth and graduate. The untalented shitters cling on for dear life and never let go.
End result: branch fills up with shitters
>>102428422Yeah, that's not the usual gaussian one. Phase using a custom provider disconnected from the Ohayama-King's Engine-Niji one?
>>102428422wdym, all i see is a picture of a perfect mountain of trash
>>102428442This is the first time I've seen this graph with him
>>102428371That's one hell of a drop off, interesting that it coincides with the change in month
>>102428449KEK His estrogen levels are dropping because he stopped his hormone therapy
>>102428418I'm not the one saying marine doesn't produce her own music or her own shorts, other people said that and they were wrong. You can say that this is obvious and indeed it is if you watch any streams but you can't assume that every rando here has done that much
>>102428430Hololive being a bootcamp isn’t a meme
>>102428392I can't think of any time CC has been listed in a collab and people have reacted negatively to it
>>102428430I don't think talent is the dividing factor, at least on the main branch side. Peko/miko/marine are the most talented holos and they've stuck around, while less talented girls are the ones that ended up leaving
>>102428511and gaymers are pretty much for life with cover
>>102428253>>102428308Yes, anon, Holos have a lot more freedom to produce their own content than detractors let on. There's a reason why "muh talent freedom" is a joke.
Your point that you think Cover doesn't have any involvement is ridiculous, she's literally one of their employees and everything she does goes through managerial oversight at some point.
Just because they're not giving Marine limitless funding and making her well-animated SEX MVs in-house means Cover isn't involved. They mostly let her do what she wants, provided it's within their guidelines.
She's no stranger to talking about her porn collection and fetishes on stream, on her own and other members channels, and even brought up her schlicking habits for God's sake. Only some of these got privated.
You even admitted that in an earlier post they're hands off unless things go too far, but it's unfortunate you're too blinded by your Cover affliction and are lashing out /here/ with your misplaced rage, and started spreading misinformation.
>>102428422>le me annoyed that people are getting baited from sister post about cover>gets called phasebror u fr sista
>>102428511It's also true for EN with the exception of Gura. The difference is that the EN fanbase only cares about one talent, which is "be a normie white girl" so the quitters all had good numbers.
Why is Marine purposely overlapping Shion?
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chestbone sexo
Saba's third wife is debuting in 30 min btw.
>>102428574revenger for cucking her with Gorosan
https://x.com/irys_en/status/1946880540453572788
https://x.com/irys_en/status/1946880540453572788
>>102428589Take your tinfoil hat off, anonchama.
>>102428549>she's literally one of their employeesshe's not an employee, she's a contractor. the labour rules that govern her relationship to cover are very different to employer-employee relationships, she's not a seishain
>You even admitted that in an earlier post they're hands off unless things go too faryes I literally said their involvement is limited to vetoing things. This wasn't what people took issue with, one anon specifically said that marine didn't produce her own content, and that's what I was replying to since that's ridiculous
>>102428565>be a normie white girlOh so like Nerissa. Or like Kiara. Both with their amazing numbers.
>>102428549Cover is involved because thats their IP and secondly things are not 100% financed by talent. A certain percentage is covered by talent + other costs such as merch production + staff payments + other managerial/legal based cost.
Think for a second if everything is to be done by the talent WHY TF WILL ANYONE stay in cover especially folks like marine or pekora. They would be the first to fuck off as they already have a good enough fanbase that would follow them.
>>102428589>no you cannot talk about a debutMarine is announcing some song and she's going to repeat the TikTok/YT Shorts dance cycle again.
>>102428371Virtually every one of their organ's numbers have reclined for it this year, but they're probably just saving money to bot the hell out of the finals/main event to make it look like they broke records in the end.
It's painfully obvious with their botting in the last two months especially that they've been monitoring Holo's numbers and spiking bots even to try and "win" I suppose. Probably have one of their interns ITT or monitoring vstats.
>>102428589funniest thing is that I don’t use discord, stop being a schizo pls
>>102428371>something seems to have changed in the start of July because that's when most started underperformingwasn't this after they got dropped by their partner?
>>102428611(me)
On a sidenote: Atleast the talents are treated with respect not like how livers are treated in niji. Generic merch. Rich gets richer mentality. Zero to nilch equal opportunity. Their staff is treated better than the livers themselves.
Oh and if you are woman in that company chance of getting raped increased by 80%
>>102428645don't forget the negromancy
>>102428611Sure thing liggernigger
>>102428667are you retarded ? which part of that entire statement made you think i support indies you stupid cunt.
these are the only good threads that gets posted at /vt/
>watamelon
>big mooner
><3 (pic of Aqua looking down at you)
>hug the duck until exploded
>suityan
>PEPELONI. AH YES, THE PEPELONI
>Holy boobers (various pics of Kronii booba fanart)
>the sex symbol of /vt/
>Eeehhhhhh, maji~? What's that thread over there? Kimoi! (pic of Shion looking at the side)
>The greatest to ever do it
>bum (pic of Pekora's ass)
>Zuffians... ZAU ZAU!
>>102428682Keep crying indiecuck
YAGOO GET HER IN EN5 AND YOU WILL HAVE MY ETERNAL GRATITUDE!!!!!!
>>102428607Her managers are Cover's employee, anyone she ask to organize and manage her MVs and shorts production are Cover's employees.
You can't really compare her production team and Cover's 500 employees when the former is part of the latter.
Her work doesn't stand independent of Cover when whatever who works at her projects has to sign NDAs prepared by Cover's legal staffs.
>>102428693More like 10% EN
>>102428601>sunnieswho says that
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I’m slowly starting to fall in love with Roa’s design, it was basic (but cute) for me before but now she’s starting to look more and more alluring to me, she has a smug stare that enchants you and I want her to be my wife, maybe her design being simple is the best choice after all, she has the taste.
>>102428691which ps2 game is this?
>>102428746I can't unsee blue karubi...
>>102428746I think you’re just retarded
>>102428693>wanting someone who offpak with flygonNo
>>102428708why are you posting futa bulges?
>>102428770no I want a cute aquatic jellyfish catwife
>>102428746It's so shitty
>>102428611okay, marine's stuff is actually 100% marine financed but she does get financing in the sense that cover is the vehicle through which payments happen, and they agree to pay upfront and take it from her future earnings if her earnings cashflow isn't enough to meet costs over a given period. that's a real advantage, since if you were indie you'd have to manage cashflow yourself, but by associating with the company they can amortize across time. There are also clear tax benefits to both marine and cover for doing it this way, since it's a lot easier for all costs to get pulled out of pre-tax revenues compared to if marine was indie
and yes merch production is actually handled by cover as well. it's true that merch is an area where marine doesn't self-produce
>>102428705no, the MVs and shorts production are also handled by contractors and other associates of marine, not by cover employees. cover employees are involved as they insist on having veto power over her content, but aside from that veto role they're not as involved as people like to imagine. Marine has described the process in some depth
>>102428746Hopefully the rigging is good. Anyone is better than the shitter Gura got.
>>102428746It's not a Cover-pruduced design, therefore it's shit. Cover designs are also shit (but less so), unless they get big numbers, then they are iconic.
>>102428787unless you look like this then you have no chance
qrd for the last 18 hours?
>only 10k waiting
Looks like Akatsuki did less well than they expected
>>102428771she would fit right in holoen then
>>102428840marine is about to release a million things, some of which will probably go viral again
>>102428810Funny you say that because that's literally me
>>102428858Go to sleep Mr Paradise
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anyone who says shit design will revert soon, meanwhile, more cake for me.
>had a graduation announcement that fucking mogged Aqua's
>one of the highest graduations in her past, ccv-wise
>now only 11k waiting for Redebut
uhhhh
>>102428771Bro do you really think your oshii doesnt meets up men for her work and networking?
>earns an absurd amount of money and is rich as fuck
>doesn't even bother buying a proper $3k-4k gaming PC to stream on
Why
It's where she makes all her money
I predict people will fuck off from Shion's stream once they realize she's bringing nothing new to the table and Marine will pass her as she's leading up the the announcement to win gold
>>102428887>revealed the model before redebut>it's shit
>>102428887shitty design really murdered all the momentum
Holy fuck only 15k less than 3 minutes from Debut, where the fuck are all the Shiokkos?
>>102428856what about the thread?
>>102428905They watched for the Shion cunny design
>>102428799Marine and numerous other Holos have brought up all the costs associated with their music/MV projects, sololives, etc.
In fact, knowing how costly these things are, is exactly why I refute nijiniggers/liggertards who think they can use ex-Holos as a proxy force to damage Hololive.
>>102428894>once they realize she's bringing nothing newPeople don't want anything new anon. They just want her to sit there and chat with them about fucking nothing for 8 hours straight again like she used to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVzVXBR4k4
numbers should be good, but the shion overlap is going to hurt
Roa yo! Starting!
https://youtu.be/SvAgA6xlVc8
>>102428818These look like ass. I'm not sure what the fuck they were thinking. It's not recognizable in the slightest. Some of these are also a fucking stretch as to what they're supposed to be
I turned on roa on one pc and marine on the other, the overlap is kind of insane cause both things are very exciting
>>102428894Saba will save her
Just like she saved Dooby
What are the chances that Saba, Sakuna, Rei, and Ruka are watching her right now?
>>102428925Stagnation mindset. No wonder these lazy fucks wanted out of Hololive after they started aiming for something bigger than "washed NND streamers playing video games but they're anime girls"
Shion, much like Chloe, was carried by the box. Now that she's no longer in the box she gets nothing, because Hololive matters more at the end of the day.
>>102428840Nightreign run back. Some indie grads, probably not EN5 though
>>102428909>what about the thread?Incoherent seethe about whatever
>>102428818Damn these look sick. FWMC and ina especially
>There are 4 big announcements!!! Look forward to it!!
What do we think the four are? Anniversary live and a song for sure.
>>102428935>>102428933man grim numbers on both sides
Why did she go with nacho?
>>102428818I don't get it.
>>102428976>Marriage with me>Pregnancy with my child>Our honeymoon>Anniversary liveThat's pretty much it
>>102428799marine has talked about her managers working on some of her MVs and shorts production, her managers are employed by Cover.
Watch streams
>>102428988Maybe she just liked Gura that much?
>>102428965Yeah, we need something new - new McDonald's sponsorships, new brainrot memes, new direction with dubais and fleshie collabs to break into new audiences
>>102428991 (me)
I wrote this
>>102428818Why did they name the concert after a villain, and then choose the primary theme color as black as well?
38k ccv, 3 minutes into debut
One day they’re gonna find me dead at home with my dick out because of this outfit
>>102428988Couldn't decide if she wanted to fuck Gura or just be more like Gura, so she did both
>>102428988 She wanted to be sisters with Gura so much but then Gura didn't continue with Nacho....
>>102428972ic ic, still catching up with Nightreign
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>>102428935Roa... Toki is waiting
>that sexy bratty voice
ES ELLA!
wait wtf why does she sound like SHion?
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
45k dorryyyaaa!!!
aaaaaand now that she's spoken, its actually starting to go down kek
>>102429035It's the only news we have of her, isn't it? I don't really watch the other Regloss members.
>Marine disowned Aqua as her daughter and replace her with Miko
aqua......
>>102429060she has Biboo's state of the art Cover™ mouth tracking.
>>102429060The best Japan can offer
wtf her ccv is going down already? What was the peak?
Should've went with one of the Western riggers. You're not chained to nip slop anymore.
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voice sexo model sexo ROA LOVE
Fucking soulless
It's just a blue karubi
>>102429077>the rrat that some of the Hologirls started to distance themselves from Aqua/Sakuna after the Gaou yab isrealyab..
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
>>102428996kind of, there's overlap in terms of managers duties in terms of organising scheduling etc. of talents, and the kinds of duties that could be described as contributing to production of something like a short. At that point it's a semantics thing, but again I think people vastly overrate how involved cover is
>Her laugh
IT'S NOT HER YOU LIAR
Is it wrong that I really want to give her a swirlie
The permanent sleepy look makes her look like she's asking for it.
>>102429092>>102429063>Is it her?>Yep>Alright gonna continue watching my oshi then
>>102429101Imagine the moghing if she ever collabs with Saba...
Jps really hate indies, numbers drop the moment she speaks
>>102429108karubi proved it works
>that cute helium kettle laugh
Oh yeah, its her alright
>>102429103(me) however I do agree that the mouth tracking could have been better, my wife is a little stiff
>>102429123They know all women are better when subjected to rules
This model is not bratty enough
I really hope it's temporary
>>102429092Think it might have just hit 45k but vstats has it at 44.9k
I like her voice like this better.
marine self-inserts as the bottom when she watches porn
How much ccv did saba get
Am I tripping or Roa's voice right now sounds like when she's drunk as Shion
>>102428894Jesas, I thought she'd at least get 60k and give us a race. Marine is going to slaughter her.
>she is shorter than Saba
well, technically it's because of the ears, but yeah they're not much different.
Is there any JP with actual good rigging, particularly the mouth?
>>102429152feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but iirc:
Saba - 200k
Sakuna - 383k
Rei - 48k
Nimi - 92k
Roa - 45k
I can't remember Dooby, and I never watched Rica and Ruka
Jurard cuck schizo status?
>>102429152200k which somehow only playboard caught (vstats only caught 199k IIRC)
>>102429175it's over for indie reincarnation, people have lost interest
>>102429175Why is Roa so low? Did she not hype it up at all?
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this is genuinely insane btw
>>102429179It managed to get 200K with its long cool down kek
I forgot how long it has
>>102429190People are tired of ex-holos
>>102429194No, she hit 200k
>>102429190no she hyped it a lot
people are just getting bored of the reincarnation gimmick, way less tourism
>>102429175Dooby was 45k on Youtube and 11k on Twitch
>>102429194200k. You lost.
>>102429142But this thread just argued that there are barely any rules for holomem and they have freedom to do as they wish...
>>102429181people wanted to see another Dookie incident but weren't getting it with all that have left
>>102429202the stinky Orca
>>102429192Can someone please tell me what Marine's stream is about? Did she HAVE to overlap with Roa's debut?
I am confused. This can't be a coincidence.
>>102429175Rica was like 14k for L2D debut and 20k for return after termination
>>102429192If Marine wanted more viewers for her announcement she should have scheduled it over Roa's debut
>>102429207lost what lmao? be less of a chimp
>>102429101I'm glad she didn't, seeing how her chat is overwhelmingly Japanese too is great because that means brownoids like you aren't watching her anyway.
>>102429212>>102429196>>102429205Damn, so only Sakuna and Saba were able to get huge debut views huh.. Grim.
>>102429174Kson was the benchmark when she first debuted her model. Himono is still trying to innovate, but most of her works are very experimental and doesn't have any real world applications so Japan kinda stagnated while western riggers focused more on making them expressive instead.
>>102429224Lost the Game.
>vstats down,
is he having a meltdown?
>>102429211anon, this might surprise you but Roa isn't Hololive
shocker, i know
>>102429175>>102429205Dooby - 47k youtube, 12k twitch
>>102429208No we said the rules aren't as restrictive outside of banning all the bad shit that ligger whores/nijis/vshojo do.
>>102429208A few rules > no rules
It's those few rules that make the difference between idols and twitch semiflesh whores.
>>102429194it actually breached 200k, but none of the trackers caught it, so the 199k is the narrative we should believe.
Looking more closely, Roa does have some of that smug bratty expression, just not as strong as Shion's. I think she can make it work.
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>>102429192 marine chasing shion ToT shiokkos fell asleep where are you guys
>>102429190Unironically her model
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>>102426549 (OP)how is this so bad? it is basically the same ccv as achan, and achan has zero charisma
>40k
She's fucked. Look at nuChloe now.
>>102429262shiokkos are the ones tuning in to marine lol
>>102429211Cover's orders, they were doing the same thing to Sakuna.
>>102429196Right there in the graph: 10 min interval
That it got that 200k was a complete fluke
Regardless we had anons screencaping the ccv as well
She's still holding only to roughly 40k viewers, so around 6-7k only left, not bad
>>102429262(me) 38k vs 39k now, does that mean that people like hags more? hœhhhh… interesting
>>102429271desu a couple of thousand as your absolute floor is pretty good for an indie who has so many fans willing to spam akasupas, she's well off
>>102429271Ruka at least has her oilers
>>102428371>>102372520 actual good numbers post
I can't tell if her voice sounds whiny or drunk, though tbf I barely watched her as Shion
>>102429283>FloorHer ccv drops week over week. She'll be a 3 view in less than 6 months. NuAchan too.
>>102429290Sounds the same to me
>>102429268honestly dont know, she did advertise it and shit. Maybe the discount model really is a debuff
>>102429230US, EU, SEA and LATAM are the world juggernauts, cope.
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>>102429285marine is eating shion up… scary old woman
>>102429274>repeating debunked brownoid rratsStop that.
>>102429268she was one of Hololive's biggest graduations so the expectation was high, but i guess the reason why her debut underperformed was because everyone already knew who she is and she revealed model already so there's nothing to hype up. Saba's debut also doubled as a model reveal while Sakuna was ex-holo's first major debut ina while. kson only got 25k on her live2D redebut btw for reference
>>102429296I doubt Chloe will be 3view.
>roary
DON'T LET PEOPLE CHOOSE FAN NAMES, THEY'LL ALWAYS GO FOR THE WORST CHOICE
Looks like another Hololive victory
All of her tweets following graduation till now have millions of views and tens of thousands of likes. Was the peak so low because she showed off her model before debut?
>>102429312I'm having kson flashbacks.
>>102429175Saba probably got the best prep for a redebut if she did it during Gura timeslot it would be closer to Sakuna though 200k is still huge.
Sakuna capitalize on her hype quick.
Nimi also did great on prep and capitalizing on her hype.
Dooby did ok on both
Ruka did well but didn't capitalize on her hype
Rei did great waiting for fans to recognize her.
Roa honestly got a nice prep time but really bad and rushed timing a teaser clip etc is better than dropping your model quick.
Roa need to grind for subs maybe Sakuna/Saba can help her if they collab in the future.
>>102429242Anon, this might surprise you, but doing this kind of shit early on, especially on debut, can be crippling to someone's career.
If I were in Marine's shoes, I would have delayed the announcedment by an hour or two at least.
>>102429290Roa kinda sounds like she forgot how to stream again
>>102429320Akatsuki unironically rushed too many debuts, they fell for the riku bait
>>102429309Marine usually streams later, this early can only be because of management wanting to smother competition.
>>102429325Her cunny model was one of her major selling points, everyone just wanted to have sex with her
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Damn.. I thought with how high her graduation was I was expecting her to rival Sakuna's debut numbers. I was wrong. I wonder WHAT would it take to defeat Sakuna's record
>>102429325>Anon finds out that western dramafags are not an audience you can rely on
>>102429306The US is the only one of those that matters, don't lump us together with you freaks.
You latinx will never be relevant, and you'll continue seething about Japan on this board for years to come.
Incoming Marine gold to make you seethe by the way.
>>102429236>Gura - The biggest vtuber in the world>Aqua - JP First Army member (First major JP graduation since Coco )
>>102429311kson's gangster model was months after her redebut, she just used her existing shit model before
>>102429348Pekora or Miko, no one else could
>>102429335Roa should've put her schedule in the Hololive calendar
oh wait, she's not hololive
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Old women won…
if marine could get one thing from cover, she would pick...
the rights over her own channel. She hates that cover has the right to come in and delete her vods
>>102429325twitter is not real
>>102429325someone post that friend of mori stating how twitter numbers dont mean shit to actual viewership
>>102429348only Pekora or Miko's indie redebut can match that i believe
>>102429336Now that you mention it yea I was getting that vibes too lol
>>102429376You're not obligated to be a good person, I guess.
>>102429342Nope, this is JP primetime and she's streamed multiple times in this slot even in the last two months.
Go choke on one of your cow turd soups now.
>>102429358>Gura - The biggest vtuber in the worldmogged by Aquas redebut in every metric
>>102429397>you have to support your direct competition! why? you just have to ok
>>102429296>She'll be a 3 view in less than 6 monthsWhere did I hear it before?
>>102429419>direct competitionSEA brain
>>102429397i'm sure Marine must've known when Roa's debut was and Roa knows that Marine had a scheduled announcement
>>102429397>holos should make way for a growing number of ex holos who now stream as indies and always keep all their events in mind
>>102429334Even if Roa prepped her debut as well as Saba and had little overlap, I have doubts she would've hit say 100k
I know there's redebut fatigue but I underestimated that it would be this severe in JP
Shion was more popular than Chloe at the end and yet the latter had like 3x the redebut CCV a few months ago
>>102429417well tbf Aqua was a powerful First Army, and she has THE greatest vtuber stream record ever - 750k ccv. That's fucking MASSIVE. There's an old saying "only a First Army can defeat another First Army" and I think that still holds true to this day. Only Miko or Pekora graduating then redebuting as Indies can surpass Aqua/Sakuna's records.
>>102429334Piggybacking off of this, Rica probably did one of the worst if not the worst
>Unspecified hiatus shortly after termination>Silence for a month>Announces return stream 1 day after notice>No thumbnail, no drama>Takes 7 months to debut L2D model
>>102429445btw this is the one that fucks Roa every night
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btw are there no more Left4Dead collabs? it was fun wish there was more
>>102429444One of them must have come first, based retard. If it's Roa's announcement, then Marine is in the wrong.
ok i will say it nachoneko style is dogshit
>>102429325twitter is great to reach outside your audience but it didn't translate to yt views, just mindshare. If it translates, Homostars would be 5views everyday
Roa actually looks very sex. Not sexy, just sex.
I wish Roa didn’t show her design so directly like that and left it behind a silhouette until the debut, or she should’ve gone the saba route, making it intriguing with small videos or pictures (?) the numbers would’ve been better, I think she was just too excited
Holo avengerbros? Why do we keep losing lately? Should we rope?
>>102429491>must have>ifoh for sure Marine just propped up that frame to announce something out of the blue just to fuck around during JP prime time
Huh did she just mentioned Pokemon?
>>102429451The timing was really bad since Sakuna is in a huge drama so she is really alone going against Holo with lots of buff event announcements.
>>102429502nah is like 80% bots nowdays shit is grim
>>102429435She's getting there when Saba doesn't keep her on life support
Imagine losing to HoloID
>>102429518i kinda doubt she was too excited about that copyandpaste model
>>102429523She didn't run fast enough
>>102429532Did you think she was gonna stop liking it? Hell, the only reason she might not just start playing romhacks is that japs would probably throw a shitfit about it
>>102429523EN side is doing great, its the JP avengers who are shitting the bed
>>102429532no it's all on your mind
>>102429534w-what this nigga saw to have those eyes?
>>102429523she was 45k earlier anon
>>102429538and I will always blame Gaou and that fat bastard korekore for that
>>102429551>Antique Stone BijouHaeh? Why is her name like that?
I love Marine, but this is at best a very unfortunate coincidence, crippling her like that.
>>102429496Art is fine just needs more effort in the rigging
>>102429523>>102429558I thought JP were calling it akatsuki
>>102429560she asked me to piss on her face and her eyes absorbed it
Will these low numbers pour cold water on any other HoloJPs who were considering on graduating in the near future? Maybe delaying their departure until the fatigue wears off a bit?
>>102429325>twitter numbersNiji are popular now ?
>>102429116>>102428799I've worked with cover before and almost everytime I'm talking to cover's staffs for project updates and communications. you're bullshit anon.
>>102429567Yeah but SEA call them avenger
>>102429523>the shitposting got to this faggot and he's actually assmadYou dumb little pussy.
>>102428818Making >90 iq vtuber merch is a mistake, and sales numbers will prove it.
You got to accept your audience is literal retards and act accordingly, like you did with all previous merch.
This will flop dramatically
>>102429563koseki literally means "ancient stone"
>>102429567Canonically its Akatsuki since the term was coined first and even blessed by pekora, its the EOPs who are insisting on using avengers universally.
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>>102429539I love twitter.
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>>102429578My uncle works for Nintendo, and he says you're lying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PShCD7q-PKs
>chink dev pay hololive for pr
>too expensive
>dev_is affordable
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she wants to do a 3d live LMAOOO
>44k
ELES TÃO DEIXANDO AGENTE SONHAR!!
Happiness > Numbers
Roa won in the end.
>solo live
>40k debut
RORU
RUMAO EVEN
>>102429464I mean Rica is a firing event not graduation we only have Rushia as a reference for that.
Having said that Rica/Mel is the dumbest hololive member by a mile so it's expected for her to not know about all this shit.
At least she is happier than Mikecat and she is still hot asf.
>>102429618Let the woman dream. Heh
>>102429595SEA normalfags have Marvel brainrot because that's all they know. it's like burgers comparing US politics to Harry Potter or Star Wars
>>102429618Roa.. You need a LOT of resources and connections for that.. Something that typically a corpo like Cover can easily offer...
>Hololive was never gonna give these to me so I'm going solo
>>102429502if it's racist(except against Whites) or anti-semitic then yes, otherwise no.
>>102429595Well Saba, Nimi and Dooby described themselves as avengers and which one they would be in their recent ER collab so you can thank them somewhat for the avengers label.
>>102429624>>102429618What was stopping her from continuing to occasionally game and sing and do 3D lives in holo? She did it for years, she could have just continued
She really quit because she can't get a solo live?
>>102429652>What was stopping her from continuing to occasionally game and sing and do 3D lives in holo?herself
>sololive
She graduated because cover wouldn't give her one.
Even Anycolor can give their 1M+ subscribed talents regular sololives
>>102429616Dont shitpost with our frog friend
>>102429596India needs some kind of containment firewall. Letting those things have access to the internet has been a disaster.
She could have easily reached 60k without Marine's intervention.
>>102429601HoloEN is dead though. No numbers without bots. Can't sell merch.
>>102429662Judging by these debut numbers. She fucked up. Hard.
What do nips think about ex holoENs collabing with each other so much?
>>102429618>>102429624women are truly retarded
>>102429652woman doesnt want to be told what to do
>>102429666Not enough return on investment for the stockholders. Hololive's focus in the future will be in McDonalds collabs and shilling plastic gacha to their viewers.
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>>102429629>>102429618>EOPs not knowing sololives are very doable even for indies.
>45K
AAAAYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>102429652Why pay the Cover cut when you can do it yourself like Nimi, Saba or Sakuna?
anons, what do you think? Do graduated ex holos sometimes regret their decision? Because now that I think about it she could’ve done the 3d lives in holo, shion is confusing me now cause didn’t she leave to become a normie too as I remember? It’s a little strange
>>102429673>All world tour and the 12k all for one tickets: sold out >Nimi and doob concert: didn't sell outHahahahahaha
>>102429666>Anycolor forces their organs to do a sololive so they can milk the sisters*The Livers arnjt idols fucking holofag they exist to serve Rikusama, he wants more money so they must dance.
>>102429695you're posting the biggest indie oat
doesn't really help your point
I.. I can't take her face seriously kek. She sounds like a mix of tired, bored, and drunk, while doing her debut stream. Goodluck to her though I wish her the best.
>what was stopping her from doing [insert activity] in Holo?
Apparently something did. They didn't graduate for no reason at all.
>>102429673Slit your throat brown phasecuck
This is like talking to a new woman after breaking up with your old one. From deep connections then back to shallow things. Shit’s tiring in my view.
>>102429703Don't look sold out to me.
>>102429652>be in holo>waits 6 years and no sololive>maybe get one in 1-2 years>have to wait god knows how long if she wants another one because members keep increasingmeanwhile she can do sololives as frequent as she wants if she's an indie and her budget allows her too
>>1024296183D lives are very possible for JP small corpos/indies
It's the sololive goal that's questionable
>>102429695>uses the biggest JP indie for his exampleregard
>>102429673nimi lost to an ID
>>102429725you lost phasecuck.
>>102429700It's almost like having a company behind you with tons of staff is helpful
>>102429725Here comes the reseller cope
>>102429696>"this is revenge for you fingering me on that fateful night you kusogaki! Overlap Strike!!"- Marine, probably
>>102429731my regards as well
>>102429725this one is for the crippled, the other are all sold. you might ask your mother if she wants to take that seat
>>102429720>>102429738I like how you're not sperging out at that guy for posting the Yagoo form.
>>102429728what about a small one (1k~ venue) like sora and azki have done?
>>102429731>biggest JP indiebiggest indie sabakeks
>>102429695you will suprise she use hololive staff and resources
>>102429695this is subarus mama you’re talking about mind you…
>>102429726>and her budget allows her tooShe's about to learn a big lesson unless she's content with like 1k seats sololives
Good luck getting to perform at a big venue as a solo indie with no backing
>>102429743>"this is revenge for you for picking Koone over me you kusogaki! Overlap Strike!!"- also Marine, probably
Holy shit it's assmad. Janny could pull an amazing prank right now and delete all his samefagged posts.
>>102429702Gotta wait for notSakamata’s eventual menhera breakdown for us to know.
I think nothing killed holostars's management support as much as the fact that marine has more female fans than all of them combined
>>102429749Keep coping, little guy. Can you at least try not crying about tariffs the next time limiteds aren't selling out? Real tired of the faggot excuses.
>>102429759>shion waits for 6 years and cover can't give her resources to do a sololive>meanwhile they allocate staff and resources to support some random indieThis is why she graduated
The new sealife is so cute!
CUTE~
Are we witnessing not a usual brown falseflagger but a genuine bootlicker retard?
>>102429768>1k seat sololiveAt least it's something. Why stay in Hololive if you get nothing at all?
Some girls thought that they would continue to have everything they had while in holo even if they leave
>>102429785don't need to bring up marine, even kaela has more female fans than them
Reminder that Pippa the "Based" grifter worships Holostar's lgbt cock since 2022
no matter how hard it is to get a sololive I hope she at least tries, you have to be a really good entertainer, bring new things to the table and allure people, I hope roa will be able to do that
>>102429795>6 years>no streammay during that time do her job properly, even mio can make it
>>102429785I think HLZNTL being sunk by their mere involvement is the real inflection point
>Biboo 14k
>only 6.9k likes
uhh
What happened to 1 3d live per year?
The way her face laughs kinda reminds me of Sakuna's face rigging for some reason
>>102429822When does Koshien end?
my rrat is that she hated her lolicon fanbase
Sakura Taisen special guest?! HOW?!
>miko outfit
OH NO MIKO IS NOT GONNA BE HAPPY WITH THIS
>>102429853she has history with that franchise she cried back in the day when sakura wars for ps4 sponsor her
>>102429847you are granted 1, you can do extras if theres schedule/ you pick the smaller side studio
>MV of our sex tape
you're welcome
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>>102429847that's the amount cover is willing to give the studio slot for, +1 for each gen anniversaries.
any more than that they have to use external studios or pay extra for cover's studio use
>Debut stream
>Loses to Marine announcement stream
Shion you fucking failed, just come back to Hololive
>>102429870the coincidences keep adding up
im nooticing...
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the biggest (heh) mistake pagpags are making is assuming that all sololives have to happen at 15k seat venues, when you can do it on a decently-sized music hall for a start.
Akatsuki humiliated
Hololive thrives
Today is the final day of sales. I doubt it'll gain much more so I'll just stop updating it here.
$654,261 + $381,292 = $1,035,553
>>102429755You mean Akihabara ENTAS or Katsushika Symphony Hills?
I think both have a ~1.3k capacity
Toyosu PIT which SorAZ performed at is a step up at ~3k
I'm not sure how heavily booked those places are nowadays
A HAG AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM GONNA CUMMMMM
Marine bringing out an advanced hag
>>102429578they play intermediary for the talents, they're not the producers. again this is semantics
>Yokoyama Chisa 3D live guest
I CAN SEE HER WRINKLES
I'M GETTING HARD
>>102429920I don't want to get censored by the 4chan algorithm, regard.
>>102429852Unsure on that but its possible
I remember her exposing herself as a big normie when she raged about social media and twitter to such a degree that it broke Marine's kayfabe
>>102429870Marine's going all out. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, they say.. Shion should've admitted that they had sex that night instead of aggressively denying it in front of Marine and everyone, Marine took that one personally
>>102429912no one respectable wants to do one in small venues
the entire point of sololives is to have an arena full of your fans coming there to specifically support you
>>102429572first stream numbers matter less than where she stabilizes
Akatsuki bros you promised me we would never lose I'm losing hope
>>102429957VA for Sakura Taisen's main heroine
sega should put sakura wars on steam i hate that the game is in ps4 hell
is this the lowest ex holo debut numbers?
>>102429932Shit man, EN needs to step up and have jennifer lopez or shakira as guest.
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>>102429957VA for Sakura Taisen/Wars
>>102429957Just pretend it's a big deal.
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I see the shitposters can’t decide between
>”Only 21k for a solo POV avengers collab? Holy grim.”
Or
>”21k on Nimi’s channel? Holy botted”
>>102429978No, that'd be Rica.
senchou is always so tidy on these kinds of occasions
>No anons screencapped Roa's supposed 45k
How SEA /#/ has fallen
>>102429985Roa peaked at 45k, but yeah Senchou won and had her revenge today
>Sakura Wars is older than half of the posters here
ex-HoloEN got a nice group going on right now while ex-HoloJP didn't have any groupings etc.
If Akatsuki whatever you call ex-HoloJP wants to at least maintain a good CCV they need to collab with each other.
Honestly really surprised Kson didn't capitalize on ex-Holos debut etc maybe the JP Vshojo group flopping really fucked her up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KPVGPuKUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KPVGPuKUM
>>102430009>>102429985pretty interesting head to head today
>>102429997contex matters
>20k for saba buffed content? pretty low>20k for nimi buffed content? pretty good
>>102429997it's the truth avengers lost, time to bring out the thunderbolts
Marine has the highest charisma in all of Hololive.
Comparing her to awkward little Shion is a bit unfair.
Roa had her chances inside of the walled garden, being associated with the best vtubers in the world, but now she's just yet another vtuber.
https://x.com/sakuramiko35/status/1946892227403522228
[Sad News]
Miko was involved in a fatal traffic accident and have to be hospitalized indefinitely
After finding out that Fubuki, Subaru and Miko (all of them had solo lives too) will be Mio's guests for her solo live, I kinda get Shion. Even when everyone has a chance to at least be a guest in someone's solo live, the ones who get invited usually have the popularity to back it up.
>>102429912If your solo live is in front of like 700 people that's just admitting defeat, might as well not do it at all with how embarrassing that is.
>>102430009yeah, she peaked at the start and then the number dropped to 40k for some unknown reason , and then to 39k and gradually to this, I still don’t understand what went wrong, did people just click and leave in a second, wtf
>>102430044thats not what fatal means
Is 51K safe for gold against Miko SC6 ?
>>102429759false
you retards with your retarded fucking ratts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KPVGPuKUM
>>102430044>its realrip holo golds
>>102429997I mean they are both retarded since it's not a solo POV since Dooby got a POV on twitch and it's not botted
>>102430049they just wanted to make sure it was really her
>>102429945I wouldn't doubt that Marine is annoyed by Shino's jab about Ao as well
That was a fun debut. Did you guys like it? I can't wait to see her on stage again.
One hag ends another starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJ5Cgv71q8
>>102430054She got better
>>102430054the driver and her sister died, therefore fatal
Shion might even slip silver to Miko. Embarrassing day.
>>102430078>Shino's jab about Ao as wellI haven't heard about this one. What's this about?
>>102430049People just wanted to confirm it's her
>>102429703Austrailia stop for the world tour had 30 tickets remaining online just before it started.
Also Canada stop still isn't sold out yet
I love this song and nabi (RIP)'s cover of it.
>>102430046The thing is Mio didn't just wish for a sololive, she actually worked hard to get it, that sololive just didn't fall on to Mio's lap
>>102430094retarded schizo nonsense
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO CHIRORU-TOMOS!
>RIN IS MOGGING OUR FUR-LADEN OSHI!
HOW DO WE SPREAD RUMORS AND CAST ASPERSIONS ON RIN'S VIRGINITY AND BASEBALL KNOWLEDGE TO REGAIN THE TOP?!
>COLLAB WITH GUNDOU WHEN?!?!?!
>>102429985MARINE STOP PLEASE STOP
She's already dead.
>>102429978Sakuna >>> Saba >> Ruka >> Nimi >> Dooby >= Rei >= Roa > Rica
>>102430081>making cring shit like this. this is /#/ talk about numbers of fuck off
>>102430049that's how ex-holo debuts usually do. start gets a hard buff because everyone wants to hear the voice, which is sometimes buffed further by drama, and it just dies down the moment they utter their first words.
>>102429649>themselvesThey were talking about the characters in the game
>>102430111She stopped after Roa stopped streaming kek
>>102430055oh shit, didn't know she was doing SC6 again
>>102430098>lying in the numbers threadkys remi
>>102429945they didn't, don't support Marine's delusions.
>>102430115>i don't like this image because i see myself there.
>>102430107Worked how? What did she do for it, exactly?
>>102430113I like how people forgot kson even exists.
Probably the future for every exholo. Especially the jap ones.
>>102430020Kson is barely a vtuber anymore, she just flesh streams and hangs out with her JAV friends
the song is really cute though
>>102430118that's how most debuts that aren't part of relays do
Koyo received the gift too?
>>102430113>the debut numbers are getting lower and lowerShachi.. Please come back and debut NOW before it gets even lower...
>>102430143Stop denying it, Roa. Focus on your new indie career now
>>102430020She has done some things with Rica but even that connection has gotten cold feet with nothing new in over a year
Hololive always wins in the end.
>>102430145I'm not australian.
>>102430146responded to her managers on time
>>102430110>Both botted to oblivion like Nijiniggers
Are you ready to apologize after today's brutal mogging?
>>102430148kson didn't really have a debut since she just resumed using her roommate account right after graduation. i guess the one that counts as her "debut" would be the Live2D reveal of her souchou model.
>>102430148kson has had more time outside of holo than in it by now
>>102430146streamed, release music, negotiate and work with sponsorships
If I were Roa, I'd invest on English lessons, properly re-connect with Saba and be the first JP avenger
>>102429790you lost the war buddy. He won
getting mad at a blue cat jellyfish maji?
Why does her MV say Jewelryfish when the song and the animal is named Jellyfish?
>>102430191Kill yourself phasecuck
>>102426549 (OP)* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>38,477: Marine (Hololive)>33,331: Korone (Hololive)>32,794: Lauren (Nijisanji)>26,666: Kanata (Hololive)>25,976: Chiroru (Indie)>22,289: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>20,477: Pekora (Hololive)>20,174: Watame (Hololive)>20,170: Saba (Indie)>17,377: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>16,651: Koyori (Hololive)>15,397: Nene (Hololive)>14,530: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>14,297: Hololive English (Hololive)>13,743: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>13,379: Bijou (Hololive)>13,049: Nose (VSPO)>12,626: Nimi (Indie)>12,600: AZKi (Hololive)>12,183: Doppio (Nijisanji)>11,778: Okayu (Hololive)>10,852: Iroha (Hololive)>10,440: Marin (Nijisanji)
>>102429826dont.... we dont claim this guy
>>102430046>>102430107Still bums me out that Mel never got hers despite wanting one for 3+ years
She even grinded out a full retinue of songs and released a CD but it all amounted to nothing in the end and now no one performs her songs
>>102430190Why doesn't Kiara get a sololive then? She does all that even harder than Mii ever did, and you can't even say she has worse numbers.
>>102430113Technically only Sakuna won the most in this, she got the highest and still-undefeated record. I mean 383k is seriously a lot and very hard to surpass nowadays, even Saba didn't come close to 300k.
>>102430208JUL 2025 GOLD
>1) 103,545: Rai (nijisanji) important announcement collab [21]>2) 127,309: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru quiz show [26]>3) 38,815: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru survey [26]>4) 48,246: Yubari Rei (indie) Debut stream [22]>5) 39,528: Pekora (hololive) R.E.P.O. [31]>6) 207,324: Nijisanji (nijisanji) MECHATU-A 1st 3DLive [41]>7) 48,220: Pekora (hololive) NoePeko Tanabata [27]>8) 60,006: Subaru (hololive) SubaKoro [23]>9) 73,542: Hololive (hololive) holonatsu paradise [34]>10) 63,121: Pekora (hololive) Important Announcement [25]>11) 40,066: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [23]>12) 40,233: Marine (Hololive) >13) 76,277: VOLTACTION (Nijisanji)>14) 61,994: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)>15) 42,629: Miko (Hololive)>16) 43,835: Laplus (Hololive)>17) 137,740: Pekora (Hololive)>18) 83,056: Miko (Hololive)>19) 38,477: Marine (Hololive)> PER COMPANY4x: nijisanji
13x: hololive
2x: indie
> PER STREAMER4x: Pekora
3x: Subaru, Miko
2x: Marine
1x: Rai, Yubari Rei, Nijisanji, Hololive, Shiina, VOLTACTION, Tsukasa Tenkai, Laplus
>>102430216She's not popular enough
>>102430167>>the debut numbers are getting lower and lowerThis is false though? For EN, literally every redebut has had bigger numbers than the last. Saba > Nimi > Dooby.
>>102430148Didn't include Kson because I can't remember what her nor what Mikeneko got and besides, its been 3+ years for each of them so their numbers aren't as comparable to what all the girls in the past year have gotten.
>>102430211if only the nutrients from her tits went to her brains
>>102430222JUL 2025 SILVER
>1) 102,743: AZKi (hololive) 3D LIVE 7th Birthday>2) 61,521: Saba (indie) 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS>3) 36,801: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #6>4) 45,619: Kagami (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>5) 39,259: Ex Albio (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>6) 99,759: Pekora (hololive) PekoMari w/ Vivi>7) 47,236: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #7>8) 57,442: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>9) 40,854: Chiroru (indie) baseball>10) 41,691: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #8>11) 30,375: Kanae (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>12) 37,921: Kagami (Nijisanji)>13) 55,190: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>14) 54,800: Miko (Hololive)>15) 41,106: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>16) 43,197: Kagami (Nijisanji)>17) 41,915: Miko (Hololive)>18) 39,499: Miko (Hololive)>19) 33,331: Korone (Hololive)> PER COMPANY6x: hololive
10x: nijisanji
3x: indie
> PER STREAMER3x: Miko
2x: Maimoto, Kuzuha, Kagami
1x: AZKi, Saba, Kagami, Ex Albio, Pekora, Tsukasa Tenkai, Kuzuha, Chiroru, Kanae, Korone
Marineschizo won
He will never stop talking about the overlap
>>102430216why can't I say she has worse numbers, the whole reason you get sponsored is because of your numbers
>>102430134World tour Australia
>>102189974Stealing
Update
hololive STAGE World Tour '25 ~Synchronize!~ Australia
Current seats remaining
VIP: 0
Premium: 30
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Canada did sell out the world tour tickets recently. Had Bronze tickets still available a few days ago.
>>102367704
>>102430182>like NijiniggersMaybe they're botted but nothing like NIjiniggers. At least in their case the spikes seem to follow the events in the stream, unlike Niji's "180k out of nowhere that goes nowhere and don't react to events in the stream in any mensurable way"
>>102430243JUL 2025 BRONZE
>1) 82,156: Marine (hololive) Subaru collab>2) 31,577: Leos (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>3) 34,900: Chiroru (indie) baseball>4) 44,544: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>5) 35,352: Miko (hololive) prophecy>6) 61,618: Rena (nijisanji) SMC Gumi 6th anniversary>7) 38,176: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>8) 54,099: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>9) 40,223: Pekora (hololive) Steam summer sale: gifting games to holomem>10) 39,403: Lamy (hololive) holonatsuParadise BIG3>11) 27,684: Saba (indie) STATIC DREAD>12) 33,942: AZKi (Hololive)>13) 53,577: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>14) 40,163: Nene (Hololive)>15) 40,127: Kagami (Nijisanji)>16) 37,765: Pekora (Hololive)>17) 41,547: Mio (Hololive)>18) 36,055: Koyori (Hololive)>19) 32,794: Lauren (Nijisanji) > PER COMPANY9x: hololive
8x: nijisanji
2x: indie
> PER STREAMER2x: Pekora
1x: Marine, Leos, Chiroru, Shiina, Miko, Rena, Shiina, Kuzuha, Lamy, Saba, AZKi, Sasaki, Nene, Kagami, Mio, Koyori, Lauren
>>102430233>>102430113Its not getting higher in general anon, its getting lower.
>>102430044>https://x.com/sakuramiko35/status/1946892227403522228She crashed and landed on my dick
>>102430216>She does all that even harder than Mio ever didHow sure are you about that?
>>102430221It doesn’t matter though since JP fans are corpocucks that only tune in for redebuts and then abandon them afterwards.
>>102430260JUL 2025 holoID
>1) 3,539: Zeta (Hitman 3)>2) 3,835: Risu (DINKUM)>3) 4,295: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)>4) 4,188: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)>5) 3,889: Kaela (Good Pizza, Great Pizza)>6) 7,395: Kaela (PEAK)>7) 8,519: Kaela (Umamusume: Pretty Derby)>8) 8,701: Risu (DINKUM) [2]>9) 5,707: Iofi (UMAMUSUME Pretty Derby)>10) 6,850: Kaela (PEAK)>11) 6,324: Kaela (PEAK)>12) 11,657: Kaela >13) 1,319: Risu >14) 6,324: Kaela>15) 11,154: Iofi >16) 11,293: Kaela>17) 9,623: Kaela>18) 4,571: Moona>19) 2,990: Risu > PER STREAMER9x: Kaela
4x: Iofi, Risu
3x:
1x: Zeta, Moona
>>102430249Because their numbers are comparable. They are about the same tier.
>>102430275it's not only japan, it's like that everywhere
>>102430277Number anon can we have a tally board forr niji and phase pleaseeeeeeeee
>>102430277JUL 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,033: Hinano (VSPO) Zatsudan [21]>2) 10,370: Koyori (hololive) Shadowverse WB [26]>3) 10,093: Vivi (hololive) Minecraft [26]>4) 11,476: Hinano (VSPO) Apex Legends w/ uruha, selly [22]>5) 10,122: Vivi (hololive) Five Nights at Freddy's: Secret of the Mimic [31]>6) 10,147: Lui (hololive) horserace betting [41]>7) 10,855: AZKi (hololive) Minecraft [27]>8) 10,063: Vivi (hololive) Minecraft [23]>9) 10,142: Lui (hololive) Minecraft [34]>10) 10,031: Towa (hololive) STREET FIGHTER 6 [25]>11) 10,054: Calliope (hololive) Umamusume Pretty Derby [23]>12) 10,368: Aki (Hololive) >13) 10,013: Dooby (Indie)>14) 10,423: Flare (Hololive)>15) 10,198: Sendo (VSPO) >16) 10,319: Yashiro (Nijisanji) >17) 10,094: Kanae (Nijisanji)>18) 10,540: Mio (Hololive) >19) 10,440: Marin (Nijisanji)> PER COMPANY3x: VSPO
12x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie
> PER STREAMER3x: Vivi
2x: Hinano, Lui
1x: Koyori, AZKi, Towa, Calliope, Aki, Dooby, Flare, Sendo, Yashiro, Kanae, Mio, Marin
>>102430216She just doesn't have enough paying fans based on her merch numbers
>>102430237She really doesn't have all that big of tits to be honest.
She is merely a C Cup at best and there is video proof she uses silicone boosters and infamously wore double or triple bras in that one offcollab with Kson and Guutara
>>102430296>she uses silicone boosters and infamously wore double or triple brasi fucking knew something was odd when I saw those oddly shaped tits
>>102430293JUL 2025 HIGHLANDER
>1) 103,545: Rai (nijisanji) important announcement collab>2) 127,309: Subaru (hololive) Oozora Subaru quiz show>3) 36,801: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #6 [S]>4) 48,246: Yubari Rei (indie) Debut stream>5) 39,528: Pekora (hololive) R.E.P.O.>6) 207,324: Nijisanji (nijisanji) MECHATU-A 1st 3DLive>7) 47,236: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #7 [S]>8) 57,442: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [S]>9) 73,542: Hololive (hololive) holonatsu paradise opening>10) 39,403: Lamy (hololive) holonatsuParadise BIG3 [B]>11) 40,066: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025>12) 40,233: Marine (Hololive) >13) 76,277: VOLTACTION (Nijisanji)>14) 54,800: Miko (Hololive)>15) 40,127: Kagami (Nijisanji)>16) 43,835: Laplus (Hololive)>17) 41,547: Mio (Hololive)>18) 36,055: Koyori (Hololive)>19) 33,331: Korone (Hololive)> PER COMPANY7x: nijisanji
10x: hololive
2x: indie
>>102430295Compared to Mio? Please show me how Mio's merch outsells Kiara's.
>>102430295If i was in kiara's place i would have tried to get a label by now if i wanted a sololive.
>>102430020only aqua was called akatsuki
>>102430266If you were to chart a graph of redebut numbers over time, there would be absolutely 0 linear decline. The 2nd biggest redebut numbers ever were Saba’s who literally just redebuted a few weeks ago, meanwhile Dooby had one of the lowest numbers for a redebut, and she was the first to do it.
>>102426549 (OP)100k by holos in 2025
1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)
45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/17-07)
# of 100k streams last year: 58
>>102430113This.. This is actually grim. Its a fucking downward trend.
>>102430324Ebis evolved into crabs now.
>>102429557Why do japs have such a distaste for romhacks/mods when they have arguably the largest culture of fan-made works(doujin of various kinds) in the world?
>>102430315???
You think Kiara has a bigger and richer fan base than Mio's?
>>102430211>Still bums me out that Mel never got hers despite wanting one for 3+ yearsI'll be critical of Mel here, the reason she didn't go anywhere in the company was not because of anything other than her attachment to her "other" account.
For a long time she put more effort in her RM career than in her Mel's and that included being absent from pretty much every formative arc of the early Holo.
I like to retell this story because it illustrates how hard she fumbled the bag: the "Mel's castle / prison" arc.
Pekora was ITCHING for a partner for her Minecraft hijinks (specially with Miko in her hiatus) and messing with every girl in the server trying to find someone, ANYONE to bounce with (like she did with Towa and "Sora's mountain").
If I recall correctly it was in the VERY SAME stream that Pekora extorted the then recently debuted Gen 5 out of precious minecraft possessons, then took a tour in the server, set up the "Mel's prison" and when she was completely out of options, she found Moona and the "lapiz lazuri give me" thing happened.
The thing is, Mel fumbled that bag hard because the "castle / prison" could have been her and Pekora's "neighbours war" but Mel didn't follow up with Minecraft streams, was mostly absent during that whole MASSIVE GROWTH arc and, at the same time, was investing mad time and resources in her RM career.
The things Mel failed to achieve during her Holo stint were 100% her own doing. I miss that dumb pon girl like you can't believe but it was not anyone's fault but hers, to the bitter end
>every Biboo 10k+ stream is botted or raided
its not even funny anymore...
>>102430346Biboo deserves my cock into her stone hard rock pussy
>>102430340Yeah. Can you prove me wrong?
>>102430328>redebut numbers over timeAnd its still going downward anon. Otherwise Ruka, Rei, and now Roa should have amazing high debut numbers to support your reply but no, its getting lower not higher.
>>102430353And can you prove that yours is correct?
>>102430291Not really. Saba, Nimi, and Dooby all have healthy numbers similar to what they had in Hololive. It’s only the ex-JPs that fall off hard.
>>102430198Not enough animals, vtubers should combine at least three animals
>>102430185ill apologize if you behead all the homos.
>>102430315>>46243913>Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Ookami Mio 217 $4.00 $868.00>Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Takanashi Kiara 81 $4.00 $324.00>>46243976>Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Ookami Mio 504 $7.00 $3,528.00>Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Takanashi Kiara 132 $7.00 $924.00
>>102430346The smartest brazilian
>>102430367Why are nimifags acting like her last stream where Saba didn't carry her and she lost to Kaela didn't happen?
>>102430337Because a fan doujin or fangame doesn’t modify the original game disrespecting the creators Vision it creates a new thing based off of it.
>>102430360I’m saying it’s neither growing nor declining over time and you’re just ignoring context. If Miko graduated and redebuted, she would beat Sakuna’s record.
>>102430287HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>102430367I say it's been a long time since Fauna had a sub 6k stream. I agree with "similar to what they had in Hololive" but the same goes for the JP girls, all in the same wheelhouse of their Holo careers.
I'll make an exception for Dooby here: unlike Gura she never managed to retain or regain her pre 2021 "house of termites" numbers and right now she's doing even worse
>>102430390what fucking language is that?
>>102430400>indoof course it is
>>102430362So, you can't prove it. Then why are you implying the opposite? My point is, Mio is not more popular than Kiara in terms of visible numbers, and if you start chirping about merch, you gotta back it up first. Nobody even tracks Mio here, she's only relevant as part of GAMERS sometimes.
>>102430185I bet he's crying again in the office
>>102430341>the reason she didn't go anywhere in the company was not because of anything other than her attachment to her "other" account.Big agree, only Noel kept alive her side gig like Mel but Noel didn't let hers get in the way of giving it her all in Hololive. Mel got served a golden opportunity of a lifetime on a silver platter and took it for granted FOR YEARS
>>102430389Just compare Saba, Ruka, Rei, and Roa (the last four ex-holos to debut) and tell me its not going down, because it IS going down, not up.
>If Miko graduated and redebuted, she would beat Sakuna’s record.Of course she will she's the strongest Hololive First Army its a given.
>>102430390DEATH TO ALL THE FUCKING HOMOS
>>102430401Jesus, the cope.
Did they forget kson fell off hard too?
>>102430401Devilish clause from Yagoo. It might not seem like a big deal but it absolutely tanks their numbers almost immediately. He really is a ruthless businessman.
>>102430408EN only fags NEED to fuck off, you are all legitimately retarded.
The problem with EN sololives is that Mori the biggest EN for music struggle to sell out a 4k venue in LA. For this lesser venue she had to give up guests, and other things to make it happened and she even suggested for her next sololive it would be Japan due to the problems for the NA one. Now Several other en holos mention cover does not want to do small venues such as 1k-2k out. So if you want to do a sololive for Holo EN you need a large JP fanbase and mindshare to do a sololive in Japan
>>102430287>>102430408>Mio is not more popular than Kiara in terms of visible numbers>Because their numbers are comparable. They are about the same tier.>Mio = KiaraHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>102430411>only Noel kept alive her side gig like Mel but Noel didn't let hers get in the way of giving it her all in Hololive.Nah, AZKi did so likewise
>and almost made the terrible decision of foregoing becoming proper Holo when INNK went down to focus exclusively on it, THANK GOD she reconsideredand Matsuri and Laplus tried their hardest (and failed miserably at every attempt).
As it turns out it is hard as fuck to get a foot in that market even with the whole "wink wink nudge nudge" surrounding the fact that they're Holos.
>>102430401Imagine coping this hard
>>102430408EN only watchers are so delusional
>>102430346>lying in the numbers thread
Koyori definitely acting as she never seen this game
KEK, right after Roa's debut stream YT suddenly recommended this to me..
https://youtu.be/JawoCT3nDQ0
>>102430384Why are you extrapolating trends from one debuff game stream under heavy overlap and ignoring every other stream. She got 14k on Until Dawn.
>>102430441>struggle to sell out a 4k venue in LA. Still way more than Nimi and Dooby at the height of their popularity RORU
>>102430438This thread will fucking die completely if that happens. 90% of discussion here is about EN.
>>102430441I think yagoo will try phillipines
>>102430441you need to stop "watching" streams from the catalog
>>102429739>helpful>meanwhile staff did nothing but get in Gura's way
>>102430441fwmc can easily, Bae irys kiara also can since the jp fans have known about them for a long time and love concerts
>>102430049>open stream>realise they aren’t going to drop Le epic drama about how abused they were that will DESTROY the evil holokeks>close stream and hump my Jun daki
>>102430488their last line of defense was cucked into oblivion
>>102430482>realise they aren’t going to drop Le epic drama about how abused they were that will DESTROY the evil holokeksBut Rei literally did this and her numbers sucked
>>102430049>Dramafag/ligger opens stream>WHAT THE FUCK WHY ISN'T SHE GOING SCORCHED EARTH ON HOLOLIVE FUCK THIS >closes stream
>>102430417>Of course she will she's the strongest Hololive First Army its a givenYes, that’s my point dude. There is no fall off in redebut numbers over time, it’s just less popular JPs getting worse debut numbers. You’re having to completely omit Saba’s debut to push this point, but if a really popular JP graduated like Miko or Suisei and redebuted, you would see the numbers go up again.
>>102429912Costs are in fact fairly fixed for a Sololive because you still have the 3D recording costs which as a reference point cost Doki 48k for her AX live so any smaller venue is much more reliant on online sales to make up the gap.
>>102430470anon... the PH paid to have Homos in that
>>102430498you don't know japanese
>>102430498The /lig/ger dramafags watching her realized they don't understand Japanese 15 minutes in
>>102430460Mint has another concert planned for 2026 your shit posting cant stop the EN scene thats forming.
>>102430509>but if a really popular JP graduated like Miko or Suisei and redebuted, you would see the numbers go up againYes but like I said, until THAT happens, the trend is going downward like we literally just saw with Rei and Roa which was my point, every redebut is getting lower and lower with some unique exceptions like Saba and Nimi.
>>102430524how much capacity? 200?
>>102429700Saba and Sakuna haven’t done any kind of 3D live and Nimi was one of 4 guests at the request of a… COMPANY
>>102430539still good than what niji en can pull now
>>102430020fired ex-JPs are in an awkward position, like who wants to hang with miguelgato after what is now known and especially after she has acted constantly shidding and farding all the time firing strays out everywhere. mel is mel and wasn't exactly a hot ticket item before leaving (I still like her though). kson basically un-vtubered herself mostly and joined vshojo and often streams on a site most nips barely know. aloe is a never-was, not even a has-been, and chris is more like some extinct cambrian organism nobody thinks about.
that leaves basically just aqua and chloe and shion. I can see sakuna/roa easily hanging out but not much else.
>>102426922Sana never had a big audience some of her regular streams were below 2K
>>102430548>still good than what niji en can pull now
>>102430341>The thing is, Mel fumbled that bag hard because the "castle / prison" could have been her and Pekora's "neighbours war" but Mel didn't follow up with Minecraft streamsShe eventually did but Mel's big brain idea was NOT to start an arc with Pekora but rather to fuck off to the outer limits of the then JP server and prove to viewers that in fact she COULD build an actual house in Minecraft.
Such character arc, very wow Mel
>>102430509>There is no fall off in redebut numbers over time, it’s just less popular JPs getting worse debut numbers.Chloe was not more popular that Shion, let alone 3x as popular