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>>102426549 (OP)
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>>102426523
anon if the mosquito is large then it's a male and those ones don't bite, they're pretty much just a nuisance but they're harmless
the one's you should be wary of are the small ones, those are the females which suck the blood out of you
just like in real life

unko

To respond to people, off topic BTW, the mosquito or cockroach, just fucking kill it, bare feet, bare hands just kill it, you can just use soap and wash

>>102426565
I threw a shoe on it and it’s twitching under the shoe it looks creepy as shit, there’s it’s long and I mean long ass fucking leg laying around too, oh my god

>>102426612
man up anon it's already dead, just lay some tissue over it and flush it in the toiler
you got sharp aim though

chu~

There is a pesticide free mosquito spray these days mosquito-man anon. Might be too late to go buy it at the store right now but it's cool because it's apparently just mint and rosemary but does work great on mosquitos and you can rest assured you're not gonna poison your bathroom and breathe it in. The little shits completely freeze up and drop with even a very light near-miss of it.

Not great for craneflies however and I hoped it would be. But those guys are slow and easy to swat, they just leave a mess sometimes but they still are irritating because they fly around like schizos all night and might bump right into you like retards even if you try to ignore them.

I guess those milestone rewards ain't coming

>>102426612
Anon you got fucked by a dude mosquito it's over

>>102426717
EN5

>>102426717
They are innocent babies.

Mumei should join

>>102426612
Are you sure it's not just a crane fly / mosquito hawk?

Biboo SC reading now

>>102426717
Something really strengthened their bond.

>>102426701
It'll come, it just won't be soon. The 300k milestone at least

>>102426794
shared trauma

No Biboo stream tomorrow

>>102426809
Bweh.....

>>102426746
>Isabelle Ironsides the wheelchairtuber

>>102426779
it’s dead already but no because all of the crane flies I’ve seen in my life are smaller and don’t have patterns on their body / wings, the fucker that I killed looks genuinely terrifying, I don’t even know where it came from it’s my first time seeing one of those motherfuckers

>>102426809
bweh

Polka horsegirl love
https://youtu.be/UntWycqbQwg

>>102426659
buy an ad

>>102426192
prove it's bad

>>102426746
Nightreign is 3 person

>>102426839
I was just googling largest biting mosquitos out of curiosity and apparently some of the largest types (gallnipper, elephant mosquito etc) are spreading in range from the warmer climate. Could be something like that.

>>102426809
>Biboo AND Mori coinciding off-days
Nice, no stream tomorrow

>>102426885
They can play Fortnite.

>>102426879
same game, similar duration
Yesterday's has 112% ratio of likes to average ccv
Today's has 85% ratio of likes to average ccv

>>102426909
derp forgot image

>>102426885
She should just sit in the background making autistic noises for three hours then, would be time well spent.

Or more realistically just step in and switch out for someone if one of the three wanted to end and the others stayed. Actually if she did this without debuting officially or announcing it that would be the hypest thing. Sana technically streams a bit now and then but isn't like officially back at all and nobody is counting on her to do much of anything and are just happy to see her if she shows up. That sounds like it would be pretty ideal for sh*chi to have basically.

>>102426909
>>102426920
Are you retarded? Is this an act? Do you know what linear time is?

>>102426930
>linear time
as opposed to logarithmic or quadratic time?

>>102426422
??? You trying to say it's not botted?

>>102426909
Retard.

marine is about to announce a whole bunch of stuff tonight that's going to kick-off another growth-round for her channel, so for posterity here's the state of her channel before it all kicks in

she's at 1.854B views, with her last tick having been on the 6th July (18,987,027 views) so she's overdue for a 20M view tick todayish which will have her re-take the lead over the hololive corporate channel even before the new stuff comes out

she's been getting 2 of these a month for a 38M per month growthrate

subwise she's reclined down to between 30k and 40k a month growth, from the 90k to 100k per month rate she was holding for about 8 months starting last birthday/anniversary period. It'll be interesting if she can get back up to that 90k to 100k ish mark or further, but it'll depend on whether her song goes viral again. If she insists on making MVs for old album tracks I think the chances are pretty slim, but if she has some new stuff cooking then she's got a shot

>>102426717
Owl.....please.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nckkVBZ6ULw

also the kumarine short has hit 100M

>>102426991
What's the ETA to pass the shark? Under 2 years?

FIGHT

John Cat is literally licking every EN girls' toes

>>102426990
Ah, so you think that these 90k views of the dino homo are actually legitimate then.

>>102426659
she's coming back next year trust

>>102426909
that's literally not a proof of anything
Kanata been streaming for 4+ hours with 7.6k likes and average probably 20k+
if anything nimi's rates tell us she's being culled in a different rate instead of being botted

>>102427038
They had a whole 20k people watching them today, in the single POV stream. They're doing worse than a lot of the SQUAD/SALT collabs. That's an impressive drop in so little time.

Huh, so Mori made a Boku no Pico reference that Biboo didn't understand
So we can assume that Mori knows about 4chan and that Biboo is either a turbo normie or really young

>>102427065
Anon, comparing EN and JP is always pointless. Do not discuss /#/ if you're a retarded tourist.
Always compare EN to EN and JP to JP.

poor girl fooled by the engine

>>102427084
>we can assume that Mori knows about 4chan
where the fuck do you people come from? Even if you ONLY know Mori and not her roommate, her cover from the Needy Girl Overdose game made it extremely clear that she's embedded in 4chan culture

>>102427026
depends what growthrate she picks up to after all the stuff she announces today. worst case scenario about a year

flowglow faces look dumb all of em

>>102427101
she would have been better off doing another Umamusume stream

>>102427072
uh oh melty

>>102426659
This is so much prettier than the CC model
Still wouldn't watch her though

>>102427142
just stating factual information

>>102427090
>Always compare EN to EN and JP to JP.
wrong
you are a fucking tourist who just wants to do what is convenient without any understanding

>>102426991
marine is just cover's yt account at this point. All her numbers are not hers

>>102427138
This girl is Flip, no?

>>102427065
Nips don't know the like button exists

>>102426717
Naplings having to sit and spin with mythbores is funny

Nimi woned

>>102427187
she produces all her own stuff, totally independent of cover. it's sad that she's more competent by herself than a corporation with 500 employees or whatever they're up to

>>102427212
Nice

>>102427084
Nigga we know specific posts she made on /jp/ pre Myth announcement.
If you go and listen to /a/ sings there’s one where you can literally hear her

>>102427260
Cute Doob

>>102427276
did she post tits

>>102427234
700+

>>102427133
nikos face looks pretty good, also chihaya when she's not looking at an angle

Just like that? Hololive wins forever?

>>102427260
5 seconds in the stream and she already cute

>>102427316
was there ever any doubt?

>>102427316
when did this "just like that" thing become a staple shitpost

>>102427138
She is just another pump and dump
Biboo next btw

>>102427117
>>102427084
About that, that reminded me of this
>pic related
where Millie and the NijiEN retards thought they could own 4chan by pretending to be 4chan retards and insult their own.
It even coined some neat insults like
>FlopSoleil
Millie is truly the mastermind of NijiEN, think about it: along with organizing this…
>if it was Petra that leaked the infamous discord screen, it was from Millie window
>Millie was the one replying to Selen’s infamous last post with “are you sure it was not you failing to get permission!?!”
>Millie was the one making the “Nijisanji is NOT a black company (according to Wikipedia definition)” stream
Everything points to Millie being the true mastermind but Elira got all the blame

>>102427351
two more weeks this time for sure, sis

Who is to blame for vedal?

Thoughts on this theory?

>>102427084
>So we can assume that Mori knows about 4chan
Are you an unironic justchad newfag or something? Mori is a confirmed 4chan oldfag.
Also all of them know about 4chan but how much they have stayed/posted here varies.

>>102427368
Engagement bait is harsh

unironically EN do mog JP in this aspect

>>102427368
Mostly correct but Cecilia also belongs in the graduation queue. Been seeing a lot of doomposting about her recently.

is there a reason why when marine acts sexo it’s le based queen but when kiara does the same it’s twitch e whore blah blah blah?

>>102427338
not a shitpost literally just a factual statement

>>102427385
No, she managed to get 3 of the better gamers in EN
If she was playing with Nerissa/Fuwawa/Mococo she wouldn't be saying that

>>102427234
>totally independent of cover

>>102427368
Liz is clearly gonna be next.

>>102427234
>totally independent of cover.

>>102427387
That's just mindbroken ligger

I wish gakumas would become the hololives next uma musume, I need to see ina play gakumas

>>102426549 (OP)
what's with the Marine image? will this thread really last two more hours?

>>102427030
Senchou is bitter that the brat didn't choose her after their one night stand, i guess the brat didn't like her performance compared to Gorosan's

>>102427368
I don't get how shiori is counted as less of an otaku than girls like kronii, cc, gigi, etc when she's spent more time in japan and surrounded in it's culture (for better or worse) than most members in the branch

>>102427311
>chihaya when she's not looking at an angle
she's glancing at my dick anon

>>102427368
That's just jap corpo slave and white women

>>102427454
her announcement is in an hour and we're sill on page 1, so i guess we're good

>>102427419
Why would they be mindbroken about her?

will roa collab with saba?

>>102427454
How fast do you think /vt/ is these days? We won't even make it to bump limit before Marine's stream

wait what, is marine DIRECTLY overlapping Roa? Hoeh? thats brutal, who do I watch first

>>102427454
marine has the biggest numbers (subs) after gura graduated so she can be on any op

you know what, i don't mind Rissa not streaming cause then the jailbird TL that does the mangas i follow are releasing chapters

REMOVE THAT SHIRT MIOSHA, LET ME SEE THEM DIDDIES

>>102427030
Since Shion got some of the highest views during her graduation announcement and graduation event itself (even beating Aqua's graduation announcement stream ccv), is there any hope that she can defeat Sakuna's world record of 383k today??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ

>MIo and Foobs are lovers
>Mio thinks of Ogayu as a little sister while Ogayu thinks of her as a mama

>>102427084
If anything I'd be more worried if Biboo knows well about Boku No Pico, her being clueless about that abomination is actually a good thing.

>>102427594
why do JP have such high redebut numbers when their eventual numbers they stabilize at are very middling?

>>102427551
Name or manga? How do you know they're a jailbird?

>>102427351
>Biboo next btw
qrd?
>>102427537
Its revenge for "that" night when they both got drunk...

>>102427101
don't feel bad for her
she's a part of that crowd

>>102427608
Boku No Pico is an animated episode about an ojisan and kids and the rest is history

>>102427357
>It even coined some neat insults like
>>FlopSoleil
My favorite trivia about that shitshow.
They were legit just insulting their own co-workers under the guise of le ironic shitposting

>>102427637
schizos are running rrats on how biboo and jurard interacted before based on his post under kanata biboo kidney stone tweet

Marine silver today?

>>102427515
You don't have to be a ligger to see she hasn't got long left in Hololive. Runt + all the ENs who could keep up with her wit have all left. She's left with retards now and only has GG left. If GG gets burnt out or goes on a break that will directly affect CC. Fauna, being the lonely solo streamer she was, never got affected by the troubles of others around her. If anything she thrived and grew in such an environment for she was the only active and consistent one streaming. CC doesn't have the luxury or the normalfag pull Fauna had and she's pretty boring solo.

Shion can surprisingly pull out a in insanely huge audience in special events like her graduation for example

.. I believe she can do that again today.

>>102427664
sisters will literally pull at anything. I mean what, does that mean kanata talked to him too? come on

>>102427616
vtubing is larger in Japan, so more tourists, but there's much more competition in terms of talent and who viewers want to watch for daily streams

>>102427234
So how many of you know that Cover doesnt do shit when it comes to birthday lives or other 3d lives and songs. They have to finance stuff by themselve or take out loan via yagoo pay

>>102427630
oh i don't know, maybe just a guess, maybe it's just the voices in my head, can't quite put my finger on it but maybe, just maybe

>>102427695
You should take your meds. What made you think they have anything to do with Nerissa or Jailbirds? Jesus, only diagnosed schizos come here these days.

the song that saved hololive:
https://youtu.be/R2yOpkIGTeg?si=h5_bWF8Bke8lXLDD

Nijisanji:
EN rapist :(
JP rapist :o

>>102427664
It does mean that Jurard is comfortable doing that with Biboo. He would never do that with FWMC. I think that's telling in a way.

>>102427616
Same thing can goes to why Japan doesn't have 500M USD domestic box office for a single movie.
Their market is big, but not big enough.

wtf pink chloe???

Roa predictions?

>>102427734
Chloe isn't a bully

>>102427735
I think she will debut, not sure though, just a guess

>>102427695
incredible

>>102427682
You're not gonna convince me to watch JP

>>102427724
I'm sure he's used to getting ignored, as well.

>>102427387
I don't want to shit on her because I like her / watch most of her streams, but I'm disappointed with how she handled the last 6 months or so. She completely dropped the ball with streaming while Gigi was able to keep things in order. CC is not really a singer so she should prioritize streaming but seems like she's just not very organized at all
Take Nerissa for example. Fine, she barely streams, but her fanbase is aware she's busy recording a ton of songs, participating in the world tour, etc

>>102427711
you're right maybe i should take my meds, i might need to go to an optometrist as well since i've been seeing things

>>102427724
>replying to some random person on Twitter is telling
just go back to your cuckposts, thinking isn't your strong suit

>>102427664
is so funny twitter account was splitted shortly after jurard interacted with kanata lmai

>>102427759
>NO YOU DON'T GET IT, THINK OF DUBOOIIISSSSSSS

>>102427664
They're both close with Shiori and also fellow DMC fans. Biboo was also the first Hololive member he said hbd to, so that might mean something

>>102427664
>biboo and jurard interacted before based on his post under kanata biboo kidney stone tweet
Well that's just absolute horseshit lmao I'm surprised the retards are actually trying to push that into becoming something more
>>102427616
To this day no vtuber in the world has ever surpassed Aqua's record of 750k and Sakuna's record of 383k honestly impressive since its the same person kek even fucking Gura/Saba failed to come close..

>>102427770
The first was Gura actually

>>102427778
Please stop noticing

>>102427734
Why did she abandon her original artist?

>>102427748
I didn't ask you

>>102427787
jurard fucked gura?

>>102427800
Is this AI?

best fg roadster solo?
https://youtu.be/KsvoDL8QT2c?si=ojD022vjqWG2KgfT

>>102427744
I mean there's alot of holo fans that do TL, there's also an Onigirya who does some of other mangas I read, I at least think that it's commendable how they support their oshis

>>102427803
Now that's an amusing rrat lol

That family tree is getting complicated

This thing is girl songs only?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ

>>102427778
why lie

>>102427724
Does anyone here have the "Biboo is for TOTAL HOMO DEATH!" post?

>>102427841
So he has a history of replying to Biboo

>>102427770
You should post your headcanon on r/Hololive, Twilight

So why does one of the most popular nijihomo groups fail hit 40k with a live, but we're supposed to believe a group of literal who homos from anycolor can hit 200k on theirs?

>>102427841
>>102427855
The gura one was in 2023 retard
He's tried this shit with a bunch if girls

>>102427835
No EN?

>>102427841
Did Biboo ever reply to him, or at least notice him?

>>102427875
she's still going anon, she just added Mayo doog and Suzy

>>102427888
Completely ignored.

>>102427895
BASED Biboo

>>102427679
>Shes pretty boring solo
No she isnt

Jurard cuckposter is back at SEA time

>>102427867
Does he still do it? Last i checked he was only cowardly replying to the holoEN account for birthday wishes

>>102427888
Why would you even ask that ? Fucking newfag just ignore the cuckposter

>>102427925
The fuck you replying to me for? I wasn't asking you fuck off

>>102427925
>t. the cuckposter

both most coolest and cutest holomem ever, zero competition

>>102427734
Man, they took what would be one of the most unique designs from Nijisanji and turned into slop

>>102427920
ya he can only reply to the en account now because half of the girls have him blocked after being annoying

>>102427943
looking forward to this loli's 3D

Who had the most FEMDOM potential in HoloEN:
- Ina
- Ame
- Mori
- Kiara (doing it rn actually)
PROMISE:
- Kronii
- IRyS
- Mumei
- Fauna
Advent:
- Nerissa
- Shiori
Justice:
- Liz
- Raora
- Cecilia

>>102427664
There are pebbles in recent jurard cover

lmao at holoturds seething at jurard the bull

>SEA hours
>homopaggers posting
NUKE SEA

>>102427954
absolutely based

>>102427983
his fan mascot retard

>>102427965
>Myth
Kiara
>Promise
Kronii
>Advent
Shiori
>Justice
Raora I guess?

Kronii > Shiori >> Kiara >>>> Raora
None of them are actually into it, I am rating only based on how much they've exhibited femdom elements for fun and how many times they've acted submissive (which reduces femdom points)

Kinda looks like Mio is literally showing the divide between the Micomet clique and PekoMarin clique

>>102427875
She just added FWMC, she was about to add Biboo but I didn't get why she didn't

And there it is the subhuman flipnigger

You know, with all the AI gen spam this cuckposter does, xhe probably isn't a flip, but a jeet.

>>102428045
god wtf is this ai sloppa shite, why are you like this

Jurard with IRyS makes literally zero fucking sense at all, at least use one of the JP homos she's interacted with

>>102427875
Do you really expect her to include members she interacts with 2 times a year at best?

>>102428057
>she was about to add Biboo but I didn't get why she didn't
rrats?

>>102428067
she has to pass n3 before she gets added

>>102428045
People here will think this is NTR while Irys getting gangbanged by faceless men isn't.

>>102428067
Under the "Members I want to protect"

>>102428031
also a kintama joke

MIOSHA WHY ARE YOU ADDING A MALE AAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>102427401
>>102427406
what do you dummies even think cover does?

they didn't produce any of her music

they didn't produce any of her MVs

they didn't produce any of her shorts

they didn't produce any of her streams

everything on the channel is produced by marine

this is what you can credit cover with:
cover produced the houshou marine model in 2019 by paying akasa ai to do the char designs and the riggers to rig, and produced the subsequent 3D model as well and all the updates to all the models. they also act as her agency that all corps have to go through when it comes to negotiating sponsorship opportunities.

aside from that all they do is veto stuff if they think what marine wants to do goes against holo's image. Marine is really forthcoming about how she's self-produced and that cover randos only get involved when they're vetoing her ideas

>>102428045
kek they hate IRyS so much
she is too powerful

>>102428101
Anon, easy there on the newline smashing. It is not really necessary in this site, you know?

>>102428036
You are correct. Well hitting your fans playfully doesn't count I guess

>>102428101
No need to hit enter twice for a new line here, redditbrown.
Anyway you're wrong on almost every point, I'm not getting into it with you though because you're clearly a threadshitter.

>>102428142
try watching a stream sometime

>>102428122
This was stolen from the trash thread thread looking at it now

we ignoring new hologras now
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1946857615444627927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ

>>102428066
Did you really expect her to off-collab with a members shse interacts like 2 times a year a best?

>>102428171
boring clique shit

Merch time!

>>102427867
>The gura one was in 2023 retard
He hasn't even debuted yet

>>102428064
Anon..irys allowed him to comment

>>102428168
The Hologra poster isn't here?

>>102428198
You're both wrong, first was Mori

>>102428168
I have no clue what is happening on screen except mori getting beaten up every 3 second

>>102427895
>>102427888
>>102427778
I see the trannies are back.

It's full of blond girls on the left

>>102428168
it was posted earlier by another anon but then Miosha started streaming so I had to watch her

>>102428179
>honorary JP
Terrible argument

>>102427551
>>102427630
>>102427695
>>102427711
>>102427744

SAMEFAG!

heh, ROFMAO failing to beat 40k with their free part goes to show how a absurdly unrealistic was the heroes wave beating 100k with their live
>unless anon is right and they got “crowdstriked” again after that

>>102427904
Compared to Fauna is what I meant. Nimi is at her best solo. The recent Avengers collabs are a fun gimmick for now but Naplings will get irritable soon if the collabs become a regular thing and a huge part of Nimi's content. This is the opposite problem CC has where she's generally at her best with someone else. GG is the only good collab partner. Raora and CC just feels forced. Kronii and CC are okay but it's nothing like CC had with Fauna, Mumei and even Gura.

>>102428224
better luck next time

AIEEEEE; WHO IS THIS SEXY MENACING FEMINIZED UNKNOWN GIRL?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj9V34pPwQ

>>102427983
holy retard

>>102428168
>japanese "humor"

>>102428222
So you were wrong? >>102428219
But nice try Flipanon

>>102428187
if you ever watched streams you'd know marine is self-produced.

e.g. the shorts on her channel exist because she contacted the people to make the shorts, and she did so out of her own initiative. e.g. the ones by riku are literally done by someone she's known since high school

cover doesn't make the shorts for her. they're not involved. The reason marine has shorts and some other girls don't have shorts isn't because cover pays more attention to marine, it's because marine goes out and does stuff herself. Cover does not produce marine's content, marine does

again, if you ever watched any streams you would know this, but you don't watch streams, so you don't know

>>102427984
ngl this bitch got commitment to a t.

Miosha's harem circle

I've encountered a very bizarre phenomenon. Thumbnails are different depending on which browser I'm using.

>>102428278
it's just yt a/b testing

>>102428253
>Cover
lol, capitalized it!
Anyway, I’m at a loss here. One of the points of pride for the holo fandom is the fact the girls have the ability to self produce and one of the biggest criticism to the “four heavenly king” era was that most content was scripted.
What’s exactly your point?

>>102428229
I brought this up earlier and nobody bothered replying.
Surprise surprise, shortly after I did, the cuckposter started spamming xis AI porn.

>>102427803
yeah and thats why she graduated because jurard moved to biboo now
kys now!

>>102428233
least delusional lignig

>>102428288
some people don't watch streams so they don't know girls self-produce, like the people I replied to

>>102428229
Did Riku forget to activate his bots or was it really grim?

>>102428036
if you think shiori is leaving you are a dumb mfker. That girl just renovated her entire house she is in for a long run buddy

>>102428278
>>102428285
Browser 1

>>102427664
The schizos are attacking biboo now? Don't they love using her as their shit posting cover? Guess pebbles are learning they aren't as safe as they think.

>>102428321
Browser 2

The different thumbnails look ai generated too

>>102428290
>nobody bothered replying
i didn't notice cause I was watching streams
they've always been blatant with their concert previews but ROF-MAO getting this low? their engine not working right?
did they think that it would work out cause that's their hottest group and didn't unleash the same they use on those niji liver 3D reveals

>>102428129
>>102428142
>no argument.

>>102428290
I mentioned this in another context yesterday too: Deron Koshien numbers (>>102372520)
Here are her numbers, updated

2021
>35569 :: 2021-07-18 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、1年目春。再始動!#1【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: TRTGKB2935c
>27240 :: 2021-07-21 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、1年目夏の大会編。#2【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: N6-YNP2WRXY
>26000 :: 2021-07-23 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、1年目秋の大会編。#3【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: xmFVd34RIbE
>27364 :: 2021-07-25 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、2年目春、新入生編。#4【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: H874CQ5folg
>22258 :: 2021-08-02 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、2年目夏の大会編。#5【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: k4wEZZqQzKQ
>9877 :: 2021-08-04 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、2年目秋の大会編。#6【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: wCDEVWGBh_c
>19901 :: 2021-08-07 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、2年目冬のスカウト編。#7【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: 7XUSlksOu_8
>25701 :: 2021-08-08 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、3年目最後の夏編。#8【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: mm7yI_iiP3E
>27017 :: 2021-08-08 :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】V西2021、3年目夏の甲子園ラストまで。#9【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: RX4rHdEpUmU

2023
>82483 :: 2023-07-09 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#1 V西2023、1年目春!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: V2K4BfXdhyM
>33296 :: 2023-07-11 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#2 V西2023、1年目夏!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: 1dMEpaQrQoI
>42157 :: 2023-07-15 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#3 V西2023、1年目冬~2年目新入生【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: -c-U5IabQWg
>34981 :: 2023-07-20 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#4 V西2023、2年目夏【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: pbfo9xeusHI
>21888 :: 2023-07-22 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#5 V西2023、2年目秋【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: 4-Ebf7EYhMg
>18286 :: 2023-07-29 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#6 V西2023、2年目冬~3年目新入生【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: y7Dx1U4g7m0
>15239 :: 2023-08-01 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#7 V西2023、3年目春【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: HZm9W2C3F7k
>28951 :: 2023-08-05 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#8 V西2023、3年目夏【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: VpPIfyQnWf8
>40657 :: 2023-08-06 :: 【#にじ甲2023】#9 V西2023、3年目甲子園【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: e5RzjDvvKrM

2025 so far
>62725 :: 2025-06-16 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#1 V西2025、1年目入学式!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: 0GNzYP9eLyg
>29885 :: 2025-06-24 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#2 V西2025、1年目夏大会!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: IO-QrH-wyqY
>25928 :: 2025-06-29 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#3 V西2025、1年目秋大会!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: dtnGnj19CiU
--> something seems to have changed in the start of July because that's when most started underperforming
>14997 :: 2025-07-04 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#4 V西2025、1年目冬~2年目新入生!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: JK5SrQBhAwg
>8198 :: 2025-07-10 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#5 V西2025、2年目春・夏!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: tr5MFvQ-x8k
>10308 :: 2025-07-13 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#6 V西2025、2年目秋!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: TCCksRHmi1E
>6415 :: 2025-07-14 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#7 V西2025、2年目冬~3年目新入生!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: xnCqrbQwXd0
>6761 :: 2025-07-17 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#8 V西2025、3年目春&夏!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: btKHk5iTAQ0
>18059 :: 2025-07-18 :: 【#にじ甲2025】#9 V西2025、3年目甲子園!【にじさんじ / 樋口楓】 :: qBFxp91ufzo

That last one might have been some "grand finale" because that's what explains this jump in the chart (which amusingly and likely coincidentally happened right after I made the post linked above).
Even then, that grand finale failed to beat 20k

>>102428233
>avengers
Kill yourself

>>102428321
>>102428336
it's a/b testing, you can do it automatically. you upload different thumbnails to yt, see how they each perform, then go forwards with the best performing one after the initial testing period.

if you had a yt channel you'd know this

watch the princess bless your ears
https://www.youtube.com/live/vXA6u6L_quw?si=I1YQoszklWLxvEWu

>>102428317
She wouldn't survive in indie scene because of her ntr fetish, she is in holo for long run

>>102428233
there are Holos that are best in collabs, but I'm not sure if I would say Cecilia is one of them.

>Start with Gozaru
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvly_Vw-qQ

>>102428229
as soon as anything like this happens
>biboo related posts goes up
>cover doesnt support talents goes up
>Jurard + cuckposting goes up

Coverdrones are so idiotic its really pathetic. Look numberfags Look at this post the real botting thing is happening and none of you cunts will finger point this shit on X because you guys dont have the balls to do it.

>>102428387
>/live/
BEGONE
I was already watching her

>>102428396
we are not horses we are human

>>102428387
>live

>>102428321
^ Ok I tried on a third browser and it gave me this again

I think this is different because I'm signed into youtube here.
>>102428336
Weird

>>102428391
100%
She should move to jp and start getting singing and dance lessons from the get go and give up whatever bullshit reason is tying her to NA right now.

>>102428375
That seems like total bullshit

>>102428308
>some people don't watch streams so they don't know girls self-produce
Anon, that's one of the most often talked topic in this thread in the context of solo lives (for instance).
More than just that, Mumei EXPLICITLY said that, surprised on how she expected content to be produced and provided by the company but, instead, she getting full freedom (and the responsibility) of producing it.
Maybe you think you are talking with the fandom in general but this place is aware of that. The only disagreement is clearly on your implication that if the girl self produces the company has no role, that's silly.

>>102428396
You can post this one too Phasebro
Have fun with your SEA friends on twitter

>>102428391
The talented people know their worth and graduate. The untalented shitters cling on for dear life and never let go.
End result: branch fills up with shitters

>>102428422
Yeah, that's not the usual gaussian one. Phase using a custom provider disconnected from the Ohayama-King's Engine-Niji one?

>>102428422
wdym, all i see is a picture of a perfect mountain of trash

>>102428442
This is the first time I've seen this graph with him

>>102428371
That's one hell of a drop off, interesting that it coincides with the change in month

>>102428449
KEK His estrogen levels are dropping because he stopped his hormone therapy

>>102428418
I'm not the one saying marine doesn't produce her own music or her own shorts, other people said that and they were wrong. You can say that this is obvious and indeed it is if you watch any streams but you can't assume that every rando here has done that much

>>102428430
Hololive being a bootcamp isn’t a meme

>>102428392
I can't think of any time CC has been listed in a collab and people have reacted negatively to it

>>102428430
I don't think talent is the dividing factor, at least on the main branch side. Peko/miko/marine are the most talented holos and they've stuck around, while less talented girls are the ones that ended up leaving

>>102428511
and gaymers are pretty much for life with cover

>>102428253
>>102428308
Yes, anon, Holos have a lot more freedom to produce their own content than detractors let on. There's a reason why "muh talent freedom" is a joke.
Your point that you think Cover doesn't have any involvement is ridiculous, she's literally one of their employees and everything she does goes through managerial oversight at some point.
Just because they're not giving Marine limitless funding and making her well-animated SEX MVs in-house means Cover isn't involved. They mostly let her do what she wants, provided it's within their guidelines.
She's no stranger to talking about her porn collection and fetishes on stream, on her own and other members channels, and even brought up her schlicking habits for God's sake. Only some of these got privated.
You even admitted that in an earlier post they're hands off unless things go too far, but it's unfortunate you're too blinded by your Cover affliction and are lashing out /here/ with your misplaced rage, and started spreading misinformation.

>>102428422
>le me annoyed that people are getting baited from sister post about cover
>gets called phasebro
r u fr sista

>>102428511
It's also true for EN with the exception of Gura. The difference is that the EN fanbase only cares about one talent, which is "be a normie white girl" so the quitters all had good numbers.

Why is Marine purposely overlapping Shion?

chestbone sexo

Saba's third wife is debuting in 30 min btw.

Uhm Kanade?

>>102428574
>>102428579
>>102428580
hello discord

>>102428574
revenger for cucking her with Gorosan

https://x.com/irys_en/status/1946880540453572788
https://x.com/irys_en/status/1946880540453572788

>>102428589
Take your tinfoil hat off, anonchama.

>>102428549
>she's literally one of their employees
she's not an employee, she's a contractor. the labour rules that govern her relationship to cover are very different to employer-employee relationships, she's not a seishain
>You even admitted that in an earlier post they're hands off unless things go too far
yes I literally said their involvement is limited to vetoing things. This wasn't what people took issue with, one anon specifically said that marine didn't produce her own content, and that's what I was replying to since that's ridiculous

>>102428565
>be a normie white girl
Oh so like Nerissa. Or like Kiara. Both with their amazing numbers.

>>102428549
Cover is involved because thats their IP and secondly things are not 100% financed by talent. A certain percentage is covered by talent + other costs such as merch production + staff payments + other managerial/legal based cost.

Think for a second if everything is to be done by the talent WHY TF WILL ANYONE stay in cover especially folks like marine or pekora. They would be the first to fuck off as they already have a good enough fanbase that would follow them.

>>102428589
>no you cannot talk about a debut
Marine is announcing some song and she's going to repeat the TikTok/YT Shorts dance cycle again.

>>102428371
Virtually every one of their organ's numbers have reclined for it this year, but they're probably just saving money to bot the hell out of the finals/main event to make it look like they broke records in the end.
It's painfully obvious with their botting in the last two months especially that they've been monitoring Holo's numbers and spiking bots even to try and "win" I suppose. Probably have one of their interns ITT or monitoring vstats.

>>102428589
funniest thing is that I don’t use discord, stop being a schizo pls

>>102428371
>something seems to have changed in the start of July because that's when most started underperforming
wasn't this after they got dropped by their partner?

>>102428611(me)

On a sidenote: Atleast the talents are treated with respect not like how livers are treated in niji. Generic merch. Rich gets richer mentality. Zero to nilch equal opportunity. Their staff is treated better than the livers themselves.

Oh and if you are woman in that company chance of getting raped increased by 80%

>>102428645
don't forget the negromancy

>>102428611
Sure thing liggernigger

>>102428667
are you retarded ? which part of that entire statement made you think i support indies you stupid cunt.

these are the only good threads that gets posted at /vt/
>watamelon
>big mooner
><3 (pic of Aqua looking down at you)
>hug the duck until exploded
>suityan
>PEPELONI. AH YES, THE PEPELONI
>Holy boobers (various pics of Kronii booba fanart)
>the sex symbol of /vt/
>Eeehhhhhh, maji~? What's that thread over there? Kimoi! (pic of Shion looking at the side)
>The greatest to ever do it
>bum (pic of Pekora's ass)
>Zuffians... ZAU ZAU!

>>102428682
Keep crying indiecuck

>>102428684
BAAAAAASED

YAGOO GET HER IN EN5 AND YOU WILL HAVE MY ETERNAL GRATITUDE!!!!!!

>>102428607
Her managers are Cover's employee, anyone she ask to organize and manage her MVs and shorts production are Cover's employees.
You can't really compare her production team and Cover's 500 employees when the former is part of the latter.
Her work doesn't stand independent of Cover when whatever who works at her projects has to sign NDAs prepared by Cover's legal staffs.

>>102428693
More like 10% EN

>>102428601
>sunnies
who says that

I’m slowly starting to fall in love with Roa’s design, it was basic (but cute) for me before but now she’s starting to look more and more alluring to me, she has a smug stare that enchants you and I want her to be my wife, maybe her design being simple is the best choice after all, she has the taste.

>>102428691
which ps2 game is this?

>>102428746
I can't unsee blue karubi...

>>102428746
I think you’re just retarded

>>102428693
>wanting someone who offpak with flygon
No

>>102428708
why are you posting futa bulges?

>>102428770
no I want a cute aquatic jellyfish catwife

>>102428746
It's so shitty

>>102428611
okay, marine's stuff is actually 100% marine financed but she does get financing in the sense that cover is the vehicle through which payments happen, and they agree to pay upfront and take it from her future earnings if her earnings cashflow isn't enough to meet costs over a given period. that's a real advantage, since if you were indie you'd have to manage cashflow yourself, but by associating with the company they can amortize across time. There are also clear tax benefits to both marine and cover for doing it this way, since it's a lot easier for all costs to get pulled out of pre-tax revenues compared to if marine was indie

and yes merch production is actually handled by cover as well. it's true that merch is an area where marine doesn't self-produce

>>102428705
no, the MVs and shorts production are also handled by contractors and other associates of marine, not by cover employees. cover employees are involved as they insist on having veto power over her content, but aside from that veto role they're not as involved as people like to imagine. Marine has described the process in some depth

>>102428746
Hopefully the rigging is good. Anyone is better than the shitter Gura got.

>>102428746
It's not a Cover-pruduced design, therefore it's shit. Cover designs are also shit (but less so), unless they get big numbers, then they are iconic.

>>102428787
unless you look like this then you have no chance

qrd for the last 18 hours?

>only 10k waiting
Looks like Akatsuki did less well than they expected

>>102428771
she would fit right in holoen then

>>102428840
marine is about to release a million things, some of which will probably go viral again

>>102428810
Funny you say that because that's literally me

vtubers

>>102428858
Go to sleep Mr Paradise

anyone who says shit design will revert soon, meanwhile, more cake for me.

>had a graduation announcement that fucking mogged Aqua's
>one of the highest graduations in her past, ccv-wise
>now only 11k waiting for Redebut
uhhhh

>>102428771
Bro do you really think your oshii doesnt meets up men for her work and networking?

>earns an absurd amount of money and is rich as fuck
>doesn't even bother buying a proper $3k-4k gaming PC to stream on
Why

It's where she makes all her money

I predict people will fuck off from Shion's stream once they realize she's bringing nothing new to the table and Marine will pass her as she's leading up the the announcement to win gold

>>102428887
>revealed the model before redebut
>it's shit

>>102428887
shitty design really murdered all the momentum

Holy fuck only 15k less than 3 minutes from Debut, where the fuck are all the Shiokkos?

>>102428856
what about the thread?

>>102428905
They watched for the Shion cunny design

>>102428799
Marine and numerous other Holos have brought up all the costs associated with their music/MV projects, sololives, etc.
In fact, knowing how costly these things are, is exactly why I refute nijiniggers/liggertards who think they can use ex-Holos as a proxy force to damage Hololive.

>>102428894
>once they realize she's bringing nothing new
People don't want anything new anon. They just want her to sit there and chat with them about fucking nothing for 8 hours straight again like she used to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVzVXBR4k4

numbers should be good, but the shion overlap is going to hurt

Roa yo! Starting!
https://youtu.be/SvAgA6xlVc8

>>102428818
These look like ass. I'm not sure what the fuck they were thinking. It's not recognizable in the slightest. Some of these are also a fucking stretch as to what they're supposed to be

I turned on roa on one pc and marine on the other, the overlap is kind of insane cause both things are very exciting

>>102428894
Saba will save her
Just like she saved Dooby

What are the chances that Saba, Sakuna, Rei, and Ruka are watching her right now?

>>102428925
Stagnation mindset. No wonder these lazy fucks wanted out of Hololive after they started aiming for something bigger than "washed NND streamers playing video games but they're anime girls"

Shion, much like Chloe, was carried by the box. Now that she's no longer in the box she gets nothing, because Hololive matters more at the end of the day.

>>102428840
Nightreign run back. Some indie grads, probably not EN5 though
>>102428909
>what about the thread?
Incoherent seethe about whatever

>>102428818
Damn these look sick. FWMC and ina especially

>There are 4 big announcements!!! Look forward to it!!
What do we think the four are? Anniversary live and a song for sure.

>>102428935
>>102428933
man grim numbers on both sides

>>102428935
cute intro

CUTE

Why did she go with nacho?

>>102428818
I don't get it.

>>102428976
>Marriage with me
>Pregnancy with my child
>Our honeymoon
>Anniversary live
That's pretty much it

>>102428799
marine has talked about her managers working on some of her MVs and shorts production, her managers are employed by Cover.
Watch streams

>>102428988
Maybe she just liked Gura that much?

>>102428965
Yeah, we need something new - new McDonald's sponsorships, new brainrot memes, new direction with dubais and fleshie collabs to break into new audiences

>>102428991 (me)
I wrote this

>>102428818
Why did they name the concert after a villain, and then choose the primary theme color as black as well?

38k ccv, 3 minutes into debut

One day they’re gonna find me dead at home with my dick out because of this outfit

>>102428988
Couldn't decide if she wanted to fuck Gura or just be more like Gura, so she did both

>>102428988
She wanted to be sisters with Gura so much but then Gura didn't continue with Nacho....

>>102428972
ic ic, still catching up with Nightreign

Roa cute!

>>102428935
Roa... Toki is waiting

>that sexy bratty voice
ES ELLA!

ES ELLA

Roa desu

wait wtf why does she sound like SHion?

IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER

Her mouth tracking...

45k dorryyyaaa!!!
aaaaaand now that she's spoken, its actually starting to go down kek

>>102429035
It's the only news we have of her, isn't it? I don't really watch the other Regloss members.

>Marine disowned Aqua as her daughter and replace her with Miko
aqua......

>>102429060
she has Biboo's state of the art Cover™ mouth tracking.

>>102429055
Meds

>>102429060
The best Japan can offer

wtf her ccv is going down already? What was the peak?

Should've went with one of the Western riggers. You're not chained to nip slop anymore.

voice sexo model sexo ROA LOVE

Fucking soulless
It's just a blue karubi

>>102429077
>the rrat that some of the Hologirls started to distance themselves from Aqua/Sakuna after the Gaou yab isreal
yab..

IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER
IT'S HER
>IT'S HER

>>102428996
kind of, there's overlap in terms of managers duties in terms of organising scheduling etc. of talents, and the kinds of duties that could be described as contributing to production of something like a short. At that point it's a semantics thing, but again I think people vastly overrate how involved cover is

>Her laugh
IT'S NOT HER YOU LIAR

Is it wrong that I really want to give her a swirlie
The permanent sleepy look makes her look like she's asking for it.

>>102429092
>>102429063
>Is it her?
>Yep
>Alright gonna continue watching my oshi then

>>102429101
Imagine the moghing if she ever collabs with Saba...

Jps really hate indies, numbers drop the moment she speaks

>>102429108
karubi proved it works

>that cute helium kettle laugh
Oh yeah, its her alright

>>102429103
(me) however I do agree that the mouth tracking could have been better, my wife is a little stiff

>>102429123
They know all women are better when subjected to rules

This model is not bratty enough
I really hope it's temporary

>>102429092
Think it might have just hit 45k but vstats has it at 44.9k

I like her voice like this better.

marine self-inserts as the bottom when she watches porn

How much ccv did saba get

Am I tripping or Roa's voice right now sounds like when she's drunk as Shion

she sounds retarder

>>102428894
Jesas, I thought she'd at least get 60k and give us a race. Marine is going to slaughter her.

>she is shorter than Saba
well, technically it's because of the ears, but yeah they're not much different.

Is there any JP with actual good rigging, particularly the mouth?

>>102429152
feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but iirc:
Saba - 200k
Sakuna - 383k
Rei - 48k
Nimi - 92k
Roa - 45k
I can't remember Dooby, and I never watched Rica and Ruka

Jurard cuck schizo status?

>>102429152
200k which somehow only playboard caught (vstats only caught 199k IIRC)

>>102429175
it's over for indie reincarnation, people have lost interest

>>102429175
Why is Roa so low? Did she not hype it up at all?

あ

this is genuinely insane btw

>>102429175
*Saba - 199k

>>102429179
It managed to get 200K with its long cool down kek
I forgot how long it has

>>102429190
People are tired of ex-holos

>>102429194
No, she hit 200k

>>102429175
Ruka?

>>102429190
no she hyped it a lot
people are just getting bored of the reincarnation gimmick, way less tourism

>>102429175
Dooby was 45k on Youtube and 11k on Twitch

>>102429194
200k. You lost.

>>102429142
But this thread just argued that there are barely any rules for holomem and they have freedom to do as they wish...

>>102429181
people wanted to see another Dookie incident but weren't getting it with all that have left

>>102429202
the stinky Orca

>>102429192
Can someone please tell me what Marine's stream is about? Did she HAVE to overlap with Roa's debut?
I am confused. This can't be a coincidence.

>>102429175
Rica was like 14k for L2D debut and 20k for return after termination

>>102429194
>>102429179

>>102429192
If Marine wanted more viewers for her announcement she should have scheduled it over Roa's debut

>>102429207
lost what lmao? be less of a chimp

How many for Ruka?

>>102429101
I'm glad she didn't, seeing how her chat is overwhelmingly Japanese too is great because that means brownoids like you aren't watching her anyway.

>>102429212
>>102429196
>>102429205
Damn, so only Sakuna and Saba were able to get huge debut views huh.. Grim.

>>102429174
Kson was the benchmark when she first debuted her model. Himono is still trying to innovate, but most of her works are very experimental and doesn't have any real world applications so Japan kinda stagnated while western riggers focused more on making them expressive instead.

>>102429224
Lost the Game.

>vstats down,
is he having a meltdown?

>>102429211
anon, this might surprise you but Roa isn't Hololive
shocker, i know

>>102429175
>>102429205
Dooby - 47k youtube, 12k twitch

>>102429208
No we said the rules aren't as restrictive outside of banning all the bad shit that ligger whores/nijis/vshojo do.

>>102429208
A few rules > no rules

It's those few rules that make the difference between idols and twitch semiflesh whores.

>>102429194
it actually breached 200k, but none of the trackers caught it, so the 199k is the narrative we should believe.

>>102429253
>>102429179

Looking more closely, Roa does have some of that smug bratty expression, just not as strong as Shion's. I think she can make it work.

>>102429192
marine chasing shion ToT shiokkos fell asleep where are you guys

>>102429190
Unironically her model

>>102426549 (OP)
how is this so bad? it is basically the same ccv as achan, and achan has zero charisma

>40k
She's fucked. Look at nuChloe now.

>>102429262
shiokkos are the ones tuning in to marine lol

>>102429211
Cover's orders, they were doing the same thing to Sakuna.

>>102429225
143k

>>102429196
Right there in the graph: 10 min interval
That it got that 200k was a complete fluke
Regardless we had anons screencaping the ccv as well

She's still holding only to roughly 40k viewers, so around 6-7k only left, not bad

>>102429262
(me) 38k vs 39k now, does that mean that people like hags more? hœhhhh… interesting

>>102429271
desu a couple of thousand as your absolute floor is pretty good for an indie who has so many fans willing to spam akasupas, she's well off

>>102429271
Ruka at least has her oilers

>>102428371
>>102372520
actual good numbers post

I can't tell if her voice sounds whiny or drunk, though tbf I barely watched her as Shion

>>102429283
>Floor
Her ccv drops week over week. She'll be a 3 view in less than 6 months. NuAchan too.

>>102429290
Sounds the same to me

>>102429268
honestly dont know, she did advertise it and shit. Maybe the discount model really is a debuff

>>102429230
US, EU, SEA and LATAM are the world juggernauts, cope.

>>102429285
marine is eating shion up… scary old woman

>>102429274
>repeating debunked brownoid rrats
Stop that.

>>102429268
she was one of Hololive's biggest graduations so the expectation was high, but i guess the reason why her debut underperformed was because everyone already knew who she is and she revealed model already so there's nothing to hype up. Saba's debut also doubled as a model reveal while Sakuna was ex-holo's first major debut ina while. kson only got 25k on her live2D redebut btw for reference

>>102429296
I doubt Chloe will be 3view.

>roary
DON'T LET PEOPLE CHOOSE FAN NAMES, THEY'LL ALWAYS GO FOR THE WORST CHOICE

Looks like another Hololive victory

All of her tweets following graduation till now have millions of views and tens of thousands of likes. Was the peak so low because she showed off her model before debut?

>>102429312
I'm having kson flashbacks.

>>102429175
Saba probably got the best prep for a redebut if she did it during Gura timeslot it would be closer to Sakuna though 200k is still huge.
Sakuna capitalize on her hype quick.
Nimi also did great on prep and capitalizing on her hype.
Dooby did ok on both
Ruka did well but didn't capitalize on her hype
Rei did great waiting for fans to recognize her.
Roa honestly got a nice prep time but really bad and rushed timing a teaser clip etc is better than dropping your model quick.
Roa need to grind for subs maybe Sakuna/Saba can help her if they collab in the future.

>>102429242
Anon, this might surprise you, but doing this kind of shit early on, especially on debut, can be crippling to someone's career.
If I were in Marine's shoes, I would have delayed the announcedment by an hour or two at least.

>>102429290
Roa kinda sounds like she forgot how to stream again

>>102429320
Akatsuki unironically rushed too many debuts, they fell for the riku bait

>>102429309
Marine usually streams later, this early can only be because of management wanting to smother competition.

>>102429325
Her cunny model was one of her major selling points, everyone just wanted to have sex with her

Damn.. I thought with how high her graduation was I was expecting her to rival Sakuna's debut numbers. I was wrong. I wonder WHAT would it take to defeat Sakuna's record

>>102429325
>Anon finds out that western dramafags are not an audience you can rely on

>>102429306
The US is the only one of those that matters, don't lump us together with you freaks.
You latinx will never be relevant, and you'll continue seething about Japan on this board for years to come.
Incoming Marine gold to make you seethe by the way.

>>102429236
>Gura - The biggest vtuber in the world
>Aqua - JP First Army member (First major JP graduation since Coco )

>>102429311
kson's gangster model was months after her redebut, she just used her existing shit model before

>>102429342
retard

>>102429348
Pekora or Miko, no one else could

>>102429335
Roa should've put her schedule in the Hololive calendar
oh wait, she's not hololive

Old women won…

if marine could get one thing from cover, she would pick...

the rights over her own channel. She hates that cover has the right to come in and delete her vods

>>102429325
twitter is not real

>>102429325
someone post that friend of mori stating how twitter numbers dont mean shit to actual viewership

>>102429348
only Pekora or Miko's indie redebut can match that i believe

>>102429336
Now that you mention it yea I was getting that vibes too lol

>>102429376
You're not obligated to be a good person, I guess.

>>102429342
Nope, this is JP primetime and she's streamed multiple times in this slot even in the last two months.
Go choke on one of your cow turd soups now.

>>102429358
>Gura - The biggest vtuber in the world
mogged by Aquas redebut in every metric

>>102429397
>you have to support your direct competition! why? you just have to ok

>>102429296
>She'll be a 3 view in less than 6 months
Where did I hear it before?

>>102429419
>direct competition
SEA brain

>>102429397
i'm sure Marine must've known when Roa's debut was and Roa knows that Marine had a scheduled announcement

>>102429397
>holos should make way for a growing number of ex holos who now stream as indies and always keep all their events in mind

>>102429334
Even if Roa prepped her debut as well as Saba and had little overlap, I have doubts she would've hit say 100k
I know there's redebut fatigue but I underestimated that it would be this severe in JP
Shion was more popular than Chloe at the end and yet the latter had like 3x the redebut CCV a few months ago

>>102429435
idk, where?

>>102429417
well tbf Aqua was a powerful First Army, and she has THE greatest vtuber stream record ever - 750k ccv. That's fucking MASSIVE. There's an old saying "only a First Army can defeat another First Army" and I think that still holds true to this day. Only Miko or Pekora graduating then redebuting as Indies can surpass Aqua/Sakuna's records.

>>102429342
retard

>>102429334
Piggybacking off of this, Rica probably did one of the worst if not the worst
>Unspecified hiatus shortly after termination
>Silence for a month
>Announces return stream 1 day after notice
>No thumbnail, no drama
>Takes 7 months to debut L2D model

>>102429445
btw this is the one that fucks Roa every night

>>102429325
>>102429392

btw are there no more Left4Dead collabs? it was fun wish there was more

>>102429444
One of them must have come first, based retard. If it's Roa's announcement, then Marine is in the wrong.

ok i will say it nachoneko style is dogshit

Is twitter even real?

>>102429325
twitter is great to reach outside your audience but it didn't translate to yt views, just mindshare. If it translates, Homostars would be 5views everyday

Roa actually looks very sex. Not sexy, just sex.

I wish Roa didn’t show her design so directly like that and left it behind a silhouette until the debut, or she should’ve gone the saba route, making it intriguing with small videos or pictures (?) the numbers would’ve been better, I think she was just too excited

Holo avengerbros? Why do we keep losing lately? Should we rope?

>>102429491
>must have
>if
oh for sure Marine just propped up that frame to announce something out of the blue just to fuck around during JP prime time

Huh did she just mentioned Pokemon?

>>102429496
Behold

>>102429451
The timing was really bad since Sakuna is in a huge drama so she is really alone going against Holo with lots of buff event announcements.

>>102429502
nah is like 80% bots nowdays shit is grim

>>102429435
She's getting there when Saba doesn't keep her on life support
Imagine losing to HoloID

>>102429518
i kinda doubt she was too excited about that copyandpaste model

>>102429523
She didn't run fast enough

>>102429532
Did you think she was gonna stop liking it? Hell, the only reason she might not just start playing romhacks is that japs would probably throw a shitfit about it

>>102429523
EN side is doing great, its the JP avengers who are shitting the bed

>>102429532
no it's all on your mind

>>102429534
w-what this nigga saw to have those eyes?

>>102429523
she was 45k earlier anon
>>102429538
and I will always blame Gaou and that fat bastard korekore for that

>>102429551
>Antique Stone Bijou
Haeh? Why is her name like that?

I love Marine, but this is at best a very unfortunate coincidence, crippling her like that.

>>102429496
Art is fine just needs more effort in the rigging

>>102429523
>>102429558
I thought JP were calling it akatsuki

>>102429560
she asked me to piss on her face and her eyes absorbed it

Will these low numbers pour cold water on any other HoloJPs who were considering on graduating in the near future? Maybe delaying their departure until the fatigue wears off a bit?

>>102429325
>twitter numbers
Niji are popular now ?

>>102429116
>>102428799
I've worked with cover before and almost everytime I'm talking to cover's staffs for project updates and communications. you're bullshit anon.

>>102429567
Yeah but SEA call them avenger

>>102429563
hakos Bales

>>102429523
>the shitposting got to this faggot and he's actually assmad
You dumb little pussy.

>>102428818
Making >90 iq vtuber merch is a mistake, and sales numbers will prove it.
You got to accept your audience is literal retards and act accordingly, like you did with all previous merch.
This will flop dramatically

>>102429563
koseki literally means "ancient stone"

>>102429567
Canonically its Akatsuki since the term was coined first and even blessed by pekora, its the EOPs who are insisting on using avengers universally.

>>102429539
I love twitter.

>>102429572
Yagoo won

>>102429578
My uncle works for Nintendo, and he says you're lying.

>solo live
Roa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PShCD7q-PKs
>chink dev pay hololive for pr
>too expensive
>dev_is affordable

she wants to do a 3d live LMAOOO

This is so sad

>44k
ELES TÃO DEIXANDO AGENTE SONHAR!!

Happiness > Numbers
Roa won in the end.

>solo live
>40k debut
RORU
RUMAO EVEN

>>102429464
I mean Rica is a firing event not graduation we only have Rushia as a reference for that.
Having said that Rica/Mel is the dumbest hololive member by a mile so it's expected for her to not know about all this shit.
At least she is happier than Mikecat and she is still hot asf.

>>102429618
Let the woman dream. Heh

>>102429595
SEA normalfags have Marvel brainrot because that's all they know. it's like burgers comparing US politics to Harry Potter or Star Wars

>>102429618
Roa.. You need a LOT of resources and connections for that.. Something that typically a corpo like Cover can easily offer...

>>102429502
if it's racist(except against Whites) or anti-semitic then yes, otherwise no.

Roa chan…

>>102429595
Well Saba, Nimi and Dooby described themselves as avengers and which one they would be in their recent ER collab so you can thank them somewhat for the avengers label.

>>102429624
>>102429618
What was stopping her from continuing to occasionally game and sing and do 3D lives in holo? She did it for years, she could have just continued

She really quit because she can't get a solo live?

>>102429652
>What was stopping her from continuing to occasionally game and sing and do 3D lives in holo?
herself

>sololive
She graduated because cover wouldn't give her one.
Even Anycolor can give their 1M+ subscribed talents regular sololives

>>102429616
Dont shitpost with our frog friend

>>102429596
India needs some kind of containment firewall. Letting those things have access to the internet has been a disaster.

She could have easily reached 60k without Marine's intervention.

>>102429601
HoloEN is dead though. No numbers without bots. Can't sell merch.

>>102429662
Judging by these debut numbers. She fucked up. Hard.

What do nips think about ex holoENs collabing with each other so much?

>>102429618
>>102429624
women are truly retarded

Marine gold

>>102429652
woman doesnt want to be told what to do

Mama and papa

>>102429666
Not enough return on investment for the stockholders. Hololive's focus in the future will be in McDonalds collabs and shilling plastic gacha to their viewers.

>>102429629
>>102429618
>EOPs not knowing sololives are very doable even for indies.

>45K
AAAAYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>102429652
Why pay the Cover cut when you can do it yourself like Nimi, Saba or Sakuna?

anons, what do you think? Do graduated ex holos sometimes regret their decision? Because now that I think about it she could’ve done the 3d lives in holo, shion is confusing me now cause didn’t she leave to become a normie too as I remember? It’s a little strange

>>102429673
>All world tour and the 12k all for one tickets: sold out
>Nimi and doob concert: didn't sell out
Hahahahahaha

>>102429666
>Anycolor forces their organs to do a sololive so they can milk the sisters*
The Livers arnjt idols fucking holofag they exist to serve Rikusama, he wants more money so they must dance.

>>102429695
you're posting the biggest indie oat
doesn't really help your point

I.. I can't take her face seriously kek. She sounds like a mix of tired, bored, and drunk, while doing her debut stream. Goodluck to her though I wish her the best.

>what was stopping her from doing [insert activity] in Holo?
Apparently something did. They didn't graduate for no reason at all.

>>102429673
Slit your throat brown phasecuck

This is like talking to a new woman after breaking up with your old one. From deep connections then back to shallow things. Shit’s tiring in my view.

>>102429703
Don't look sold out to me.

>>102429652
>be in holo
>waits 6 years and no sololive
>maybe get one in 1-2 years
>have to wait god knows how long if she wants another one because members keep increasing
meanwhile she can do sololives as frequent as she wants if she's an indie and her budget allows her too

>>102429618
3D lives are very possible for JP small corpos/indies
It's the sololive goal that's questionable

>>102429695
>uses the biggest JP indie for his example
regard

>>102429673
nimi lost to an ID

>>102429725
you lost phasecuck.

>>102429700
It's almost like having a company behind you with tons of staff is helpful

>>102429725
Here comes the reseller cope

>>102429696
>"this is revenge for you fingering me on that fateful night you kusogaki! Overlap Strike!!"
- Marine, probably

>>102429731
my regards as well

>>102429725
this one is for the crippled, the other are all sold. you might ask your mother if she wants to take that seat

>>102429720
>>102429738
I like how you're not sperging out at that guy for posting the Yagoo form.

>>102429728
what about a small one (1k~ venue) like sora and azki have done?

>>102429731
>biggest JP indie
biggest indie sabakeks

>>102429695
you will suprise she use hololive staff and resources

>>102429695
this is subarus mama you’re talking about mind you…

>>102429726
>and her budget allows her too
She's about to learn a big lesson unless she's content with like 1k seats sololives
Good luck getting to perform at a big venue as a solo indie with no backing

>>102429743
>"this is revenge for you for picking Koone over me you kusogaki! Overlap Strike!!"
- also Marine, probably

Holy shit it's assmad. Janny could pull an amazing prank right now and delete all his samefagged posts.

>>102429702
Gotta wait for notSakamata’s eventual menhera breakdown for us to know.

I think nothing killed holostars's management support as much as the fact that marine has more female fans than all of them combined

>>102429749
Keep coping, little guy. Can you at least try not crying about tariffs the next time limiteds aren't selling out? Real tired of the faggot excuses.

>>102429759
>shion waits for 6 years and cover can't give her resources to do a sololive
>meanwhile they allocate staff and resources to support some random indie
This is why she graduated

The new sealife is so cute!
CUTE~

Are we witnessing not a usual brown falseflagger but a genuine bootlicker retard?

>>102429768
>1k seat sololive
At least it's something. Why stay in Hololive if you get nothing at all?

Some girls thought that they would continue to have everything they had while in holo even if they leave

>>102429785
don't need to bring up marine, even kaela has more female fans than them

Reminder that Pippa the "Based" grifter worships Holostar's lgbt cock since 2022

30-7-25 3D LIVE

>>102429807
bwc addict

no matter how hard it is to get a sololive I hope she at least tries, you have to be a really good entertainer, bring new things to the table and allure people, I hope roa will be able to do that

>>102429795
>6 years
>no stream
may during that time do her job properly, even mio can make it

>>102429785
I think HLZNTL being sunk by their mere involvement is the real inflection point

>Biboo 14k
>only 6.9k likes
uhh

What happened to 1 3d live per year?

The way her face laughs kinda reminds me of Sakuna's face rigging for some reason

>>102429822
When does Koshien end?

my rrat is that she hated her lolicon fanbase

Sakura Taisen special guest?! HOW?!

>miko outfit
OH NO MIKO IS NOT GONNA BE HAPPY WITH THIS

ROA DON'T LOOK

>>102429853
she has history with that franchise she cried back in the day when sakura wars for ps4 sponsor her

>>102429847
you are granted 1, you can do extras if theres schedule/ you pick the smaller side studio

Fauna graduated to Myth

>MV of our sex tape
you're welcome

>>102429851
the 27th

>>102429847
that's the amount cover is willing to give the studio slot for, +1 for each gen anniversaries.
any more than that they have to use external studios or pay extra for cover's studio use

50k doryaaaa