Thread 102479352

Bruh Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Bruh

Image source: https://twitter.com/vsjkkanon/status/1943924308553699764

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102475970

pew pew!

bruh

bruh

Not everyone on that list are ex-members though.

Why did Mel Lie?
https://youtu.be/PJssMDwogAM?t=36

3rd /xvsj+/ thread
we're on a roll

also bruh

Now that VShojo is gonna die, what is the official list of +s for this thread now?

Can't stop won't stop

I did an ironic ritual as a joke to bring Froot back. This is all my fault.
I did a Monkey's Paw to us.

The worst thing about all this is no Vshojo minecraft server.

>>102479484
Not yet.

>>102479486
Because she's a jew.

>>102479484
Will be soon

>>102479515
No more +s. We're just pink /big/.

>>102479515
Mei
Froggy
Ari
Heavenly
Saii
Dust

>>102479409
Nigga Doki and Tricky already dropped thousands on the idf donation, Nimi mentioned her and the comments of the yt video is already full of famous people showing support

bruh

>>102479486
Jesus dude...

>>102479484
You think this org is going to continue after the Mouse nuke drop?

We're so back.

>>102479515
all of them, we /lig/ now

no statement yet, they had nothing prepared at all

Funny how Haruka's debut was overshadowed by the trio graduating, and then it happened again to AmaLee.

>>102479529
Geega is making one

>>102479515
Kill the +

Bruh

the NOVA girls will probably wake up without a clue what happening in a few hours...
i hope kson can catch them them up on things....

You think anyone still works at vshojo? Or is gun the only one left with the keys to the safe and socials accounts and he's already off to some random countries where they couldn't sue him

Pink Cat good
Pink Mouse bad

Thread are going so damn fast. I'm trying to think of times where the thread was faster and all I can think of is the dumbass ice boss fight from Arcadum's DnD campaign.

I gotta remind you anons that Nazuna is not off topic

>>102479529
Mouse is going to make her own server. I just hopes she invites everyone including Nova.

>>102479607
>Haruka's debut was overshadowed by an event that happened 5 months later
>Ama's debut was overshadowed by an event that happened 6 months later

>>102479515
New rule, unless they are openly HATED by our talents, they're +

>>102479529
There's a reason Mouse said she was going to make her own.

>>102479627
honestly afraid for them
and how will this affect the universal deal

I miss lewd waifu Mouse.
I love Mouse too, keep strong.

omg, guys, Gunrun just flew over my house. what is happening?

>>102479649
Someone got the screenshot of that /tg/ thread?

>>102479627
>kson
>the "there are no downsides in vshojo" whore
lol
lmao
kek even

So what's falsecord up to?

>>102479703
On his way to argentina, don't mind him

>>102479529
Sorry anon, it would appear that the funds earmarked for the server were misplaced...

Here's my crack pipe timeline
>certain plannings are going with poor or little returns (AX huge panel even with Brave's support, the foundings for NOVA, future application)
>VC is running low
>not enough to pay out
>subathon 3 comes around
>good PR, good money, and everything
>Mouse trusts them with the money, VShojo takes it and keeps it to use it and then give it later.
>Gfuel comes from that huge PR move, huge money there
>Mata is having a sucessful merch line with Bricky while VShojo takes money by doing nothing
>bigmoneytime.png
>vigns them on Gfuel without much of talents input
Zen starts sperging to VShojo
>use money to get a werehouse
>wants to take more control over some finances
Mata picks it up (since she has been more involved with merch due to VShojo screwing over in 2023-2024) and goes against it, Mata is fired then
>GEEGA and Mouse start noticing something feels off with management and financing
>MTD (CMO) and Poshie (merch) suspiciously "leave"
>Zen pissed off about the GFUEL shit and Mata being fired, quits
>GEEGA realizes how useless they are being and calls it quits
>Mouse finds out about the situation with the charity money
>Managers like Maiko, Roxxy and Panini find out about it, and quit (obviously Maiko is yet to reveal that)
>Mouse tells most of them (not all of them), and quits
You are here

This might bring normie hate to other vtuber corpos

>>102479717
That's a pretty optimistic take. That anyone is waiting to debut.

>>102479717
>

>>102479717
That's likely true. Remember when Michi suddenly talked about the downsides of Vshojo and that they struggle to help and guide new blood

>>102479740
Getting ready to milk this for 3 months.

Froot update
>>102479649
This thread did hit the bump limit of 1500 posts a handful of times but I can't remember when. I think one of them was Haruka's debut though

>>102479772
Might? If charlie is making a video it absolutely will, especially when he outright said every corpo is the same.

>>102479772
Good

>>102479673
dead and buried

Ohhh
shit

what happens now

>>102479808
anon, you're very slow on the updates

>>102479730
neck yourself windy
fat fuck

>>102479856
what the fuck

Aso i think Mouse still did the DND campaign with Kuro and Michi cause all that stuff goes through tiltify so Vshojo cant get to it

>>102479862
The reply is new anon.

apologize

>>102479856
Is that loutlot?

>>102479856
Lulot????
MTD?????????

>>102479717
>he thinks the auditions were real

>>102479856
who

>>102479627
>the NOVA girls will probably wake up without a clue what happening in a few hours...

i just feel sorry for them especially.
they might get dragged into a meeting before anyone can stream. because finding out while going live would be a big...Yabai

>>102479856
Who whooooo?

Where is Gunrun right now? I'm sure he's innocent.

>>102479925
I kneel

>>102479856
Hope this is about Gunrun and not Loutlot

>>102479925
we care about the other talent
stop making it about you

Holy nuke dropping
https://x.com/thegunrun/status/1326355021093498880

>>102479856
I don't like most of vshojo but I want this guy's head

>Froot removed Vshojo from her handle
TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOOOOOWN

Crazy how tubers are still falling for org scams. It's always liability and drama from people who don't give a shit about your community. Hopefully its a permanent wake up call

>>102479856
OH no no no no. An NDA will not protect them now. The Dam has burst. Its all coming out

>>102479856
LOUTLOTTTTT

>>102479925
>no streams

>>102479856
niji is over there -->>

>>102479856
OH SHIT
IRONKAHO GOING IN

>>102479856
I'm still mad how all this fucking drama made it impossible for Mint to release the DearStage video she filmed last year, it was one of her biggest dreams. And it was all thanks to Kaho and VshojoJP that she was able to do it.

>>102479856
Okay Kaho, you need to spill that name because that fucker needs his balls wrapped in barbed wire and hung off Tokyo Tower.

>>102479856
Holy fuck

>>102479856
>revealing marital status
Oh shit Mel is actually getting IRL whored out isn't she

>>102479856
it just keeps coming at us like a train full of clowns

>>102479997
learn to read
>last year
>as a staff

>>102479856
kaho? is that the girl that did streams with Conner?

>>102479856
there was that one exec from niji that went to vshojo, think he left to make nfts or some shit

>>102479856
The first half is "vibes are off" gossip shit? Then drop doxx accusation in a throwaway sentence???

Is Michi's discord shut down or something? Any news on that side of things?

Life.

>>102479997
Gunrun joined vshojo last year from another company?

>>102480011
at least use a vsj tweet instead of some hololive thing

>>102480011
I knew what it was
I still fell for it because I love it

>>102480018
I think you should kill yourself either way tbdesu

THE SECONDARY GOOGLE DOCKIES ARE STARTING TO DROP, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG NIGHT, BRACE FOR IMPACT!

I just want my silly autistic internet clowns to be okay

isn't loutlot a japanese?

>>102480048
Loulot has been JP CEO for longer than that

>>102479856
So this confirms what we've known all along... that Geega has been married this whole time.

>>102479856
>classic kaho

>>102480019
We have Mel to hold down the fort.

>>102479753
Geega knew early on and left early so the others could leave too, so it doesn't line up there. Do your reps

>>102480053
Yeah I don't think loutlot worked at a vtuber company before VShojo so I hope that's not him. I don't remember the ex-Niji guy but he was with VShojo JP at the very start and left a while in

>>102480096
i just wanted henya subnautica dayo

>>102479856
The nijisansji guy who was hired?

>>102479856
nova is not safe

It was a deep impact, expect aftershocks well into tomorrow.

With all this attention piling up i hope they find a way to help the rest of the talents have a smoother transition to indie, especially the Nova girls

>>102479856
>someone who is staff
>moved from a huge vtuber corpo to probably vshojo
>is not native to japan, so a foreigner
Could it be the holoen biz director guy they hired last year?

>>102480154
Wasn't he the ex-Niji guy or am I confusing him with someone else?

>>102480112
Yeah it's not him. Might be one of his employees though.

>>102479856
the ex holo guy probably

>>102480141
Yes....to me

>>102479856
Wasn't it omega or whatever the fuck was his name?
He moved from holo to vshojo, didn't he?

>>102480141
yeah, to me

>>102480071
it's board culture no?

>Vei, Nyan, Silver leaving in 2023 was actually a gigabrain move that protected them from a lot of shit
zamn

kaho is implying the guy is not japanese, or else she wouldn't say "i'm a native"

>>102480181
Fugi

>>102480207
board culture is dead anon

>>102480146
I appreciate her willingness to drop the tea, but i feel like it rarely helps the situation and is almost always a selfish act haha
lets see if the post gets deleted

>>102480203
no that was a dumb rrat.

>>102479928
>>102479938
Loutlot is a japanese. This is probably some guy they hired from another huge vtuber corpo, might be holo.

Does this mean we aren't getting more Smite skins this year?

>>102479856
People are thinking Loutlot (also he's fucking Japanese, he would know shit like that), but he isn't staff and not even the Niji guy who left like on 2023.
Could be another person but JP is so small, could be the Holo guy

>>102480175
They're all going to form NoShojo. They'll be fine

>>102480207
we use the "pumpkin spice latte bussin" /here/ https://x.com/Veibae/status/1433294954571382790

>>102480228
fugi left like 2 years ago

>>102479856
So did she warn them or not?

>>102480183
No, it was someone else and I just remembered the name on Twitter. Iwataiki lol.

Hopefully she's talking about him and not loutlot

https://x.com/YuchiVT/status/1947417955723067468

Apparently this person was in the last stages of auditions last year

>>102480209
What was Nyanners protected from? She absorbed all the negativity and has been permanently debuffed.

>>102480181
>>102479856
Weren't there rumors like last year or 2 years ago about a nijien manager moving into another big corpo? The Noor girl who was NijiEN manager for like 2 years (specifically Lazulight's).

>>102480181
shit, you may be right, no wonder he got fired

>>102479856
>It's actually over
Lmao vshojo is done

LOUTLOT IS JAPANESE YOU RETARDS, KAHO IS TALKING ABOUT A FOREIGNER

>>102480096
Maybe Haruka being indie again will mean SHE WILL FUCKING STREAM REEEEEEE

>>102480141
Do not expose me

I'll never get the opportunity to tell Vei how much joy she brought to others myself included and how one of her YT shorts saved me from depression back then even if it was temporary

Froot removed Vshojo from her twitter name as well

> 12 talents
> 0 streams

>>102480269
or Burrito Yummy Dayo

>>102480293
THE AUDITIONS WERE REAL?

>>102480053
It's not that guy. The niji guy was from 2022 and he had terminal illness and retired.

>>102479856
I blame mountain dew

The affable one.

>>102480294
getting doxxed by a staff member apparently

>>102480209
VAW
Vei Always Wins

>>102480328
>content creator for @vshojo

>>102480334
Ama is literaly live
and for the exes Geega is live

>>102480328
pink V is still there. false alarm.

>>102480328
you're not on the team you rotten bitch, stop trying play the victim again

so who works at vshojo that is not japanese and comes from another agency?

>>102480376
Why does he sign his tweets like a woman?

>>102480031
God I love Kaho's Kaho's

>>102480063
Nothing much, Ferro already had this during Zen's departure

>>102480399
that only updates like once a day, it takes a while to go away

>>102480385
I said name, dumbass
she had "Froot VSHOJO" as her name, just like Kuro and Michi did

>>102480376
>mouse supporting herself on her burner

>>102480294
She doesn't care. She just wanted peace. She was talking like 2 days ago about how much more fun she's having.

>>102480417
Geega

>>102480351
most surprising part of all of this rumao

>>102480081
>not a fan of these guys but I have standards
>kill yourself
you first faggot

that guy with the funny beard, lives in japan, doesn't look japanese and has done walk around tokyo on henya's stream?

so is Vshojo Niji tier company now or even lower

>>102480292
Iwataiki WAS in charge of nijijp for like 4 years (2017-2021 IIRC)

>>102479856
It keeps on getting worse Jesus Christ
Vshojo is fucking DEAD man

>>102480399
that one was put there by Vshojo, not the talent

>>102480503
Rob Ross?

>>102480423
He zesty like that

>>102480503
NO MAN NOT HIGHGAI ANYONE BUT HIGHGAI

>otv, mythic, and otv members all mentioning being open to mouse joining
It's going to be an interesting several months.

lmao you guys just ate the biggest plate of shit ever after fellating this corpo for years. Fucking losers kek

>>102480505
I think stealing money from cripples and charities might make them worse then Niji now.

>>102480293
>It was an actual 3view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aF-ZS1iYl0

>>102480505
no, below that. Accelerating towards dissolution

>>102480459
>just wanted peace
the lolicon porch monkey wanted peace??

>>102480537
yeah that guy, did he work on another company?

>>102479856
The fire is only just beginning

>>102480537
I don't think he was ever employed by them. Just a friend.

So this is why Arielle joined GeeX, huh? Mouse waves her hand so she wouldn’t suffer in Vshojo.

>>102480503
Highgai? Doubt he has access to stuff like that. Also he is in his 30s.

>>102480505
vshojo only stole money, which is pretty standard in the industry, the only unique part is the amount and that it was for charity. Niji had sexual harassment and drove one of their talents to attempt suicide

>>102480505
Does it matter?
The people have made their minds

Good news are just keep coming. Man, I love Mondays!

>>102480407
nigga, move on, you lost
your dear old "freedom fighter" got outed as an abuser and welfare queen that never even set foot in afghanistan or any front line

>>102480550
Lmao Mouse is going nowhere but to Geex+ or Vchiban or nothing at all

I'm giving out free smooches for any cuties who need to be cheered up!

>>102479462
>>102479611
>>102479925
>>102479978
>>102480323
>>102480382
WHO

>>102480552
It's not over yet. You WILL kneel peasant

>>102480503
highgai didn't work for a different vtuber org before vshojo tho
i think...

>>102480503
Kaho said he used to work at a vtuber company. Assuming she's not getting her wires crossed, that does mean it's not Highgai (thankfully) and SHOULD mean it's not loutlot either (hopefully)

>>102480620
fuck you peepeega

>>102480503
Highgai wasn't employed tho

>>102480575
If you want to cry about message board drama from a literal decade ago you should probably wait until it's not being overshadowed by this.

>>102480505
Niji has a long history of minor and major fuckups, but Vshojo decided to try to give them a run for their money with one gigantic one

>>102480505
Below Niji at this point
Stealing half a fucking million dollar destined for charity is a huge deal

>>102479856
Jesus H. Christ

>>102480503
Isn't Highgai native/hafu? He is only High Energy Gaijin because he looks like he is not japanese.

>>102480505
Charities are basically legalized thieves so nah. Vshojo didn't made someone attempt suicide twice.

Where the fuck are the Silver tits?! What's the point of this eulogy thread w/o them?

if it's not hihgai then i don't know, loutlot is a japanese so it's not him either

>>102480699
Whose?

>>102480636
she also referred to herself as a native
So the guy is not Japanese for sure

>>102479847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ol7eGaHZ4

>>102480685
The only thing nijisanji did wrong was not guarantee the fat chink an heroed

>>102480659
I just think it's funny how easily people forget these things, so statements like that end up deeply ironic

>>102480699
We're too busy talking about people who matter

>>102480376
>Ironmouse
>V-Shojo

>>102480505
Lower honestly
But at this point it's like asking if you want to be shot or stabbed

>>102480586
>Vshojo bait teaser
>She probably knew
What balls she must've had to do that

>>102480743
This tbdesu

>>102480667
At minimum 500k from Chairty and less whatever they owed to Mouse personally.

>>102479655
>>102479681
QSMP 2

>>102479627
geega said they were informed +/- the ESL issues

>>102480505
At least Vshojo will just collapse for this and nobody loses their IP.

Forbes 30 Under 30 remains unbeaten

What the fuck were they thinking man

>>102480794
oh so they are aware?

Isn't Omega with VShojo? If it's him we will know soon because Kiara loves talking shit about him

>>102480625
>Mouse goes to GeeX+
>Connor personally handles her money
She's going to get screwed

Nux won in the end.

>>102479856
Alex (the ex holo guy) is also Japanese btw, I peeked at his linkeid
This might be a long shot but could be Apek which went there for Melody?

>>102480824
kek

>>102480794
i wonder if it even reached Peke considering she is on vacation..

>>102480857
Mouse please don't do this, spend some time as indie.

>>102479627
I hope Kson herself is a little more informed before jumping in, considering how she's been in the past with things.

Could the holotards stop trying to derail our discussions with their fanfics? jesus

>>102480817
Yup the only thing that becomes shitty now is group cohesion and where the fuck to buy merch and organize Con\Event Appearances.

If this thread sticks around though then thats cool. Gives me a great place to consolidate resources and info

>>102480847
>Isn't Omega with VShojo
go back to /#/ thirdie

>>102479856
young male its a MOD ITS MICHIS MOD

>>102480552
Who are you trying to bait corpodrone? Everybody already gave up on this company while you still suck corpcock after like 8 talents left Holo.

>>102480857
>Finally gets restitution for all of the Cinamarolls he shipped.

Guys what will happen to the Nova girls...

>>102480890
She wants to get screwed, anon.

>>102480844
The corp has always been poorly managed. It probably wasn't intentional and now they're dead broke and were hoping she wouldn't notice.

>>102480871
Has he said anything yet? If his quiet he might be involved with this shitshow one way or another

she can't be talking about kuro right? lol that would be very funny

>>102480857
>Connor personally handles her money
>Mouse finally buying her own cinnamorolls instead of having Connor put it on her tab
Absolute monkey win.

>>102480505
Well it depends on how much more shit comes out but it'll be hard to beat
>pushed a talent to attempt suicide, then attempted to paint her as the villain
>knowingly harbored a sexual harasser and fired the whistleblower
And the laundry list of other ill deeds

>>102480794
i wonder who informed them. and what exactly they were told. just Mouse leaving would not be enough here

So does this mean that BAO loses her throne as most Scammed Vtuber?

>>102480817
as far as you know, if they're keeping 500k from charity who knows if they actually dont own the IPs of a lot of them

>>102480941
They will be sold off to the highest bidder to cover outstanding debts.

>>102480860
Won what? The biggest brown noser award?

>>102480920
Maiko only went there this year dumb dumb
Also Maiko never worked for Niji
>>102480965
Apek has never been public.

>>102480922
Could this be?

A THIRD DOCKY JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>102481001
dibs on nagi

>>102480959
No way man. This was malicious. They tried to Ponzi scheme her money.

>>102480984
Literally everybody that left kept their IP, retard. Why do you think it would be different for the remaining talents

>>102480941
Sex slaves

>>102481001
I'll buy peke

>>102480860
and yet he's still slaving away in the chudslop mines

>>102480913
>If this thread sticks around though then thats cool. Gives me a great place to consolidate resources and info
This thread is like a roach. Despite the best efforts of the antis on this board, various bad actors, Vei, and all the awful posters here it has survived for a long time.
It can and probably will survive VShojo itself collapsing

>>102481001
Nova are going to be whored out to lonely men to use as they see fit to cover the Vshojo debt to Mouse and the IDF...

>>102480699
tits?

>>102481035
yeah, kson's

Hold on, what the fuck did I miss over the last day? Is there a summary somewhere?

Might be this guy.

>>102480550
Geexplus is the only answer then again dating your boss isnt good

Wonder if some of the talents are going to form, not a corpo, but a friends group type thing like 3am or Vichiban?

>>102481033
1. Japanese talents
2. They lied once whats another?

>>102479856
What. in. the. actual. fuck.

Henya deserves better. I hope she lands on her feet.

>>102481105
Before VShojo there was the cream pies
After VShojo there will be...

>>102481023
engagement baiting duh, but we all know that. it taste like shit all round, grifters and attention whores all over

wait for the lawsuit

Fucking kek

>>102481101
seems to be working for vei

No coming back for Vshojo even sports illustrated is doing it https://www.si.com/esports/news/ironmouse-leaves-vshojo

>>102481094
Go take a shit and put it between some bread. Thats your summary.

>>102480857
paid in cinnamonrolls

>>102481130
does she tho

>>102481071
You think she could dance like that for real?

>>102481094
Last day? Try the last couple of hours.
Mouse left, VShojo was handling her finances and hasn't paid her an undisclosed large sum of money. In addition, they have not paid out the IDF for the $500K+ raised from the last subathon

>>102481105
The Ironmouse extended universe

>>102481023
Quick, who just met with Kaho this week???

I don't believe a based white man or jap stole from her, it has to be an Indian or a Nigerian.

>>102481101
I don't think Meilyne will allow it

>>102481105
>but a friends group type thing like 3am or Vichiban
You mean like VShojo?

>>102481136
Cream...guys?

>>102480871
wait did apek go to japan too?

>>102481053
dubs on Nagi

>>102480699
Shit my bad. Here's something spicy for you in exchange for forgiveness.

>>102481130
she didn't reply to Zen, she can burn

>>102481117
Nazuna kept her IP, tourist.

>>102481105
After watching indies since the first exodus it became really obvious almost no one in VSJ is actually friends with each other.

will vshojo make a statement

>>102481144
How can you be a Connor sperg after that.

>>102481117
Bro, Vei, Nyan and Silver have been gone for how long now? Do you actually believe they're paying some kind of dumbass IP tax to Vshojo to keep using those when debuting under a new identity would fix that issue for them?

WHAT DO I CHANGE MY TWITTER NAME TO HELP

>>102481144
I kneel

>>102481221
>henya
>drama
no

>>102481153
who?

>>102481238
No

>>102481105
>he doesn't know 3am is an llc

>>102481161
1000%

ONE THING
I DON'T KNOW WHY
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY
KEEP THAT IN MIND, I DESIGNED THIS RHYME TO REMIND MYSELF HOW I
TRIED
SO
HARD

>>102481224
Nazuna didnt join vsj jp, that happened after kson and Nazuna joined

>>102481105
>mouse
>friends

>>102481136
The reunion tour...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE60A7Xq0B8

>>102480417
Alex Kiyoshi Pelz, formerly of hololive.

>>102481250
kkkanon

>>102481238
They're comically slow to respond to anything which is pathetic since fast response time is supposed to be one of a small corporation's biggest strengths.

>>102481144
kek

>>102481250
xvsjkkanon

>>102481250
gtskkanon

>>102481250
could you stop attentionwhoring emmy

I leave this place for six months and look what happens...

>>102481250
"punished kkanon"

>>102481250
add another k

>>102480724
Keep crying, your tears are tasty.

>>102481248
Vei 100% would have leaked out that shit a long time ago if it was happening lol

>>102479486
That was just sad dude.

>>102481327
who

>>102481238
not likely

>>102481283
lol what
honestly whatever. feel free to be as delusional as you want to be.

>>102481163
Maybe...

>>102481250
liquid kkanon

>>102481144
OOF. Yeah he knows they're broke. Thats the crux. You cant run a company off of non existent merch and making Anime girls happy. You need a revenue stream

>>102481250
FrootposterERP

>>102481363
feel free to prove me wrong buddy

>>102481303
>Pelz
Every time.

Vsj offices right now.

>>102480762
kek mindbroken

>>102481097
So now we're just posting people's full names based on speculations?

>>102481429
lies, the chair is still there

>>102481429
Nah they would have pawned the chair and cabinets too.

It's time to tell all. Gunrun isn't going to sue.

>>102481407
No I told you to stay delusional.

Why would you ask a JAV whore about taxes lmao
He was trying to fuck her and the slut played into it
Can we get a face shot of the guy?

>>102481410
STOP NOTICING

>>102481250
vtuberkkanon? vtkkanon?
It's not like you've never done non-vshojos before.

>>102480699
There you go

I should jerk off

CRY OR CELEBRATE
IT DOESNT MATTER
ITS OVER FOR GOOD

>>102481144
damn

damn it i missed it.

>>102481250
kkkanon for k9 kuro kurenai anon

>>102481144
Pretty strongly implies that it's not that they're holding on to the money, but that they don't even have it. It's plausible Connor would know.

Mouse has been removed from the vshojo twitter affiliates.

>>102481458
It's public information just like yagoo's full name is.

https://x.com/CDawgVA/status/1947453672478412974
KEK

>>102481250
PUNISHEDKKANON

>>102479856
I do understand that she wanted to point out how hard the guy went but saying
>martial status
WILL raise shit about them if you so much "like them"

Only one way out now

>>installing fightcade

>>102481552
WHAT WAS THE TEA SISTERS

>>102481615
marital*
fuck lol

>>102481579
so did vshojo borrow the 500k for vsjp and didn't make the money back in time to donate it?

>>102481273
So is Vchiban
But there is no separate company in these cases, they're both owned and run by the talents. Any staff (such as 3AM's manager Mr. XLR) are brought on as employees of the talent.

It's a complete inversion of the standard corpo model. VShojo is like a mid-point between the two.

>>102481552
It was the Michi poop tweet.

>>102481552
i bet someone asked about the mouse thing people convinced themselves of.

We're so back bros

>>102481682
it was about shit, go back a few threads

>>102481458
Anon LinkedIn is public info.

>>102481682
Retard

120K
Don't stop

mfw i had an instinctual feeling that vshojo is a shitty company after the phishing email rat and i was proven right after all

I'm willing to bet this isn't directly malicious on Gunrun's part, he just blew all the money and now has nothing left to pay anyone with because he's not a good businessman.

>>102481529
>Mel might stay because she knows what's actually going on behind the scenes
>Hime
>All of JP
It's not over yet. I stand with Gunrun

>>102481144
Oh boy i just know connor is PISSED he probably knew about this shit for more than a year and wanted to go off on vshojo for a while

>>102481669
Hahahaha

I'm looking forward to the 4 hour stream from the retard lawyer about this.

Watching Mei and lol "Dude I am so fucking sick of corporations"

>>102479856
that redhead dude with the weird style?

>>102481682
I hope your not a betting man.

>>102481698
So any VShojo member (current or former) that doesn't donate to Mouse's fundraiser will officially be on the record of hating Mouse and being on VShojo's side. Am I correct on this?

>>102481698
Ahhhhh unity through destruction of Vshojo. Vshojo got thrown off the cliff by Thanos.

>>102481238
Yes, in 2 weeks

>>102481698
Latina love is back

>>102481783
I warned you about twitch culture, sc2/esports niggers and thegunrun when they got kson.

>>102481635
>even fightcade anon is back
Is it weird if it feels like this thread is healing? Like, we lost so many anons these past few months but now we're getting them all back. It almost feels like old times.

>>102481732
Noone claimed it's doxxing but It's still putting him out there without any proof. blind witchhunt.

>>102481714
>>102481736
that makes more sense as to why zen would even be replying to it. got me good.

>>102481736
ah it was the poo tweet

>>102481805
did he say it with his real voice or his fake >girl voice

>>102481812
They will analyze the amounts too, drama fags gonna drama

>>102481812
Hime...

>>102481850
I remember that. Good call.

>>102481856
Nothing like a fucking nuke getting dropped to get everyone to pop their heads back in.

Why in the everloving fuck were Zen and Mousey so cold to each other towards the end? Was Zen mad that Mousey wasn't committed to leaving behind the scenes because she knew what was going on?

>>102479730
yes, the same one that holofag goes to every time a nijinigger tells him that his talents earn less than 50% of the merchandise.

>>102481662
I think they "borrowed" then the tariffs hit so they could not make it back in time and after the (i stood up for myself tweet) thats when mouse gave them a deadline or she is lawyering up and leaving.

Do you think if I post a video titled "Gunruns real intentions" and it starts with dramatic music only to turn into mel noises, I would make a lot of money with that?

>>102481872
Gunrun should do a final act of redemption by hugging this guy with a landmine strapped to his chest

>>102481872
He thinks we're going to forget that Mouse dumped his ass because he was recording his conversations with her without her permission, doesn't he.

Just watching the Moist video and yeah this is going to hurt all big vtuber orgs.
He got some details wrong, because they don't handle all the talents money, they just made payments for Mouse because she was super paranoid.

>>102481953
Money? No
Views? Also no

>>102481698
zen still owes 494,500.00

>>102481872
>inb4 mouse becomes a chudtuber

>>102481812
Some of those talents got cheated out of their money, too. People could troll about it but if any talent, ex or otherwise, caught wind of those people, they would be flamed off social media for all of eternity

>>102481932
she assumed mouse was involved in the stealing because she was vshojo's golden girl

>>102480043
By me
How dare he do that to my onahole wife

>>102481932
I'll take a guess: Zen probably wanted Mouse to put the boot on the throat as soon as she found out, while mouse was being more cautious about it since it was her money and reputation on the line. It probably caused some strain that will go away now the band-aid's been ripped off

>>102481170
I hope he doesn't cancel the stream he had planned today I need SOMETHING to cheer me up

>>102481932
I don't really see what else it could be. Mouse was probably on high mega copium and Zen was getting pissed off by it

How does VShojo as a company get out of this without being totally destroyed?

>>102480871
>Japanese
>Utah Valley University
lol

>>102481991
I do feel like he purposefully left out Mouse being happy Vshojo handled the money to help protect her privacy. I get where he was going with his point but that seemed a bit disingenuous.

>>102481932
I'm pretty sure Zen was upset about the collab stuff and Mouse ghosted her because she doesn't want to deal with it when this shit is going down and couldn't tell her about it.

>>102482061
They don't.

>>102481410
Yep. It's always the Krauts.
Should have finished the job in WW2.

>>102481932
Zen thought Mouse was ignoring her
Zen got her feeling because of an Elden Ring collab
Then learned about Mouse quitting without a reason
Thought it was a dick move
Didn't know what Mouse was going through
Regret.

4th thread incoming in a span of 3 hours kek

>>102482012
so when is mouse gonna play wow with zen?

>>102482061
Everyone's already said it. Provide proof that the money was properly donated in a timely manner. If that proof doesn't exist there is no way out lol

>>102481872
"Hey Nux remember that time you fucked up a criminal investigation for YouTube views"

My better angels feel bad for Ironmouse getting scammed hard like that, but my lesser demons want Gunrun to just crash out so badly that he posts everyone's faces on the way out. Never could trust vtubers that are all anime girl all the time.

>>102481856
it's a dead cat bounce
shit will be a ghost town in 2 weeks

>>102481615
She's obviously jumping on the bandwagon while she can, but yeah this is going to make life harder for everyone involved (and potentially for the ones not involved at all)

>>102482061
there's no statement yet, they know it's over.

>>102482061
Just gotta refocus on being a JP company instead of international/US-based. It's simple really

>>102482061
pretend nothing happened, works more often than not

>>102482095
zenhenera once again

Imagine being old buds with Gun becoming new business partners and friends with Mouse then seeing all of this.

>>102481698
Honestly kindly fuck off zentreya the fact she blocked mouse and is now following again tells me everything i need to know.

>vshojo deleted doxx catboxes and videos of its talent
>vshojo is now going under
this doesn't look good bros

>>102482095
it's going to be real funny when mouse still won't collab with zen every single day

>>102482061
rebrand

>>102482061
Immediately donate the money and an explanation why they could not do it before. It wil stil look bad but much better then we stole money from charity.

>>102482111
it's so weird that that is just not what happened

>>102482061
Sell to Mouse. Let her reform the company in her image.
>the brand is tainted!
The brand will be Mel, Mouse, and whoever else comes along for the ride reclaiming what they built.

>>102482061
only way EN survives is if mouse lied
JP will just rebrand.

>>102481872
I hate him so, so much

>>102481991
>>102482077
He did specifically mention that Mouse wanted VShojo handling her funds for her privacy.
What he didn't do was make it clear that this is not standard practice in VShojo (or other agencies, really).

>>102482061
Minecraft server

>>102482148
No one watches their Japanese branch, it wouldn't be financially viable.

>>102482087
Yeah, they could've at least actually done the whole 6 million, instead of a few thousand.

>>102482151
Actually the most effective strat vs the internet. The worst thing you can do is make a statement

>>102482201
The easiest explanation would be throwing someone specific under the bus.

>>102482154
I think it was a bit valid, Mouse lack of communication and this >>102482199 obviously was hurting Zen a lot. People here didn't saw the vod where Zen talked about it, and Zen was genuinely hurt by it. All be it, it's a deep reminder that everyone is living their own life and you shouldn't just blame them without a reason.

So we gonna talk about how Vshojo hasn't put out any statement compared to the previous instances? Like where is Gunrun unironically.

is vshojo going to drop a google dockey on mouse?

Techtone says he knew all along

Even if the latinas fight they still love each other

>>102482296
Very possible.

Damn man, what a wild half a decade...

>>102482221
No, but given the old cabal of Youtube middleman agencies used to do this too I'm not surprised he assumed it was.

>>102482302
I believe him.

God pls let gunrun donate like 10$ or something that would be so funny.

>>102482295
If they have a response, they will likely have it by tomorrow

>>102482249
That only works if you are an individual with an audience that will engage with you anyway.
If you are a company bleeding talents, being accused of a crime and having public opinion completely against you, ignoring it is the most retarded thing you could do.

>>102482302
He's 100% lying. He's been out of the /in/ circle since 2023 lol

Western SC2 esports was the most corrupt shit ever. There were people who absolutely crushed HuK, IdrA, Stephano on ladder but were greasy brown or asian incels so they didn't get along with the cabal and were completely cut off from competition. Bullied into psychosis because they were better at a game than the EG "pros."
Anyone from that scene is rotten to the core.

I feel bad for Haruka. People shat on her for joining and then she joined a black corpo. She is a punished autist and I love her.

>>102482209
>pressured VShojo to give feedback on the video with a completely arbitrary, extremely small time limit
>ran with misinformation that he was told was likely false because it made him look like more of a hero
Yes, that's exactly what happened

>>102482302
because I told him when we meet at the get pegged event of Connor.

>>102482302
that fream would leave him for being abusive?

>>102482313
Now it's the time for Mouse to follow back

>>102482335
Why

>>102482302
all along is bullshit, but he was one of the few who even tried to help silver so i believe he knew some stuff.

>>102482295
Well, they're probably in the red right now and he's just been hiding it, so now he's being confronted with having to admit the company is actually bankrupt and no one's getting any money.

>>102481932
Zen has always valued regular collabs as a big part of her relationship with other streamers and when Mouse got busy or whatever I think she just took it personally and by the end was fed up with everything and was also probably letting some poison get poured into her ear reading twitter antis post about them.

>>102482302
Apparently he knows about everything. Funny.

>>102482255
Or incompetence of trying to use the 500k+what they owe Mouse as a loan without Mouse knowing about it.

>>102482336
Donate 10 under the name rungun

>>102482358
whatever, old drama, by now ppl believe what they want. nux "nazi chud" so he bad mkay

>>102482313
God i love this menhera bitch

>>102482295
I'd say give it a day. It took a day for Sinder to come up with some bs googledoc to explain away her shittiness.

>>102482313
Yes Latinas are insane but they know what matters.

>>102482302
did he figure it out before or after he raped that one chick

>>102482375
He knows enough vtubers, like aethel for example, and aethel knew about this because of the 500k joke he made before, it wasn't coincidence.

mata retweeted mouse

>>102482352
This is Day9 slander

>>102482295
he might unironically be committing ritual suicide right now

>>102482414
Yup Ponze schemed it for sure. Prob bought Puts after the election and got fucked now that market is all time high.

>>102482472
>>102482473
she's gonna make her own corpo

so if mouse gets doxxed any time in the next couple years it's definitely gunrun right?

>>102482414
imagine they used the money for the nova girls models

>>102481783
reminder that nux is a 90 IQ nigger

>>102482313
did this just happen or is it old news?

Nux could rescue a baby from a burning building and I'd hate him exactly the same amount, this incident will not vindicate him in any way

Are the NOVAs safe?

>>102482479
Didn't Athel stop talking to him after the rape allegations?

We got Zenditions now

>>102482485
Based. Its the only way.

>>102482472
she is overdoing it.

>>102482515
mouse has already been doxed

>>102482507
>she's gonna make her own corpo
Imagine the mess it would be lmao

>>102482472
>>102482473
i love zen. zen is probably the only vtuber that if something wild came out about them beyond the rrats i'd actually feel something.

>>102482507
honestly, yeah

>>102482507
the soup kitchen org?

135k Raised

>>102482479
He hasn't talked to Aethel in ages. Tectone himself said this lol.

>>102482484
It's the reason he was not as "in" with the people running everything and kind of separate from esports. I'm not talking about BW shit but SC2 when the VC money dude bros came and literally raped people.

>>102482349
With accusations of this level, I still don't see any statement that can lessen the blow. Committing to the payouts publicly now would basically be an admittance of guilt. I guess they could scapegoat somebody

>>102482540
nothing from them yet. anyone checked if they reacted on twitter?

>>102482540
no they are now fair game for all the perverts

>>102482354
That's not what happened

>>102482295
Probably lawyering up just in case and begging PR/legal for help

>>102482561
DAMN YOU GUNRUUUUUUUUN

>>102482472
>>102482473
>I want to grooooooom

>>102482520
Or the offkai sponsorship merch fulfilment like mata's keychains KEK.

>>102482541
Yeah he completely stopped interacting with him after that all came out.

>>102482596
aethel was just an example, if aethel knew who else knew about it? tectone knows enough vtubers, camila also claims to have known.. so i don't think its far fetched.

>>102482540
Nobody knows but everyone is hoping so

>>102482631
based I would too

>>102482561
The words that came out of her mouth isn't a dox.

>>102482659
If Aethel knew it's probably because he heard it from Mouse, who he's kept open about talking to. And if he heard it directly from Mouse, he sure as shit wouldn't have told Tectone lol

>>102482659
I knew
t. barely 3view male vtuber

>>102482607
bro they're japanese there's a 0% chance they understand any of what's happening unless kson or henya explains it to them

>>102482596
Yeah not as many people talk to him after that stuff came out lol

>>102482659
Anon, Tectone is a grifter faggot who latched himself onto ANY drama he can find to remain relevant.
Anyone who takes him seriously by this point is fucking retarded.

>>102481932
Zen needs constant validation and couldn't take feeling disregarded by Mouse. But now that this nuke has been dropped, she realized how petty her matters were and relates with Mouse over VShojo issues.

>>102482732
>stay
>CANCELED
> >:[

>>102482520
Nova's planning started way before subathon 3
There's another thing tho, the warehouse

>>102482472
I'm going go undercover bros. Wish me luck

>>102482777
But actually

may I interest you in a mikey msg for these trying times?

>>102482723
They probably wont think its a big deal. Theyre used to Jap Corpos fucking people over and stealing from them.

Man this fucking sucks

Evanit0, I call upon thee

>>102482814
just dont watch it anon, it's that easy

>>102482820
no

Making the corpo Satan themed didn't work out, huh?

>>102479548
No.

maybe gunrun is bankrupt, should have stayed at twitch

>>102482820
We should set up a Retard Panel with Mikey and Otoshi_Gami so they can assess the situation

>>102481932
most boring rrat in the world:
lawyers told them to not communicate during a critical phase of the lawsuit

VGEN 10k

>>102482540
I'm going to be real with you, they're screwed unless they win the golden ticket to Charlie's Chocolate factory

>>102482863
too bad

>>102482889
Yeah.... the company in the red for 12 years running. Stay with that company.

>>102482820
bros, what's OtoshiGami's take on this drama? I need to form an opinion

>>102482732
Only rolemodeless white american children watch tectone.

why doesn't vei donate, she keeps bragging about her bf's millions

mouse mods should spread the rrat that the charity link is a secret auction to see who gets her

>>102482889
Turns out backpack r&d was more expensive then he first thought.

>>102482946
yes that company, infinitely better than vshojo

>>102482947
YEAH henya [the last sentence henya spoke] i AGREE dayo

>>102482973
Grew up a poorfag. Poorfags don't donate.

>>102482723

>>102480794
>geega said they were informed +/- the ESL issues

>>102482827
>fraud isn't a big deal in Japan
How many layers of eop mtl made you think this?

>>102482941
I wish to know which form of martial arts if most effective towards a bear

>>102482918
how do people just pull money out of their ass
I'm not knocking the charity but its like everyone just has 20k in their closet or something

newthread
>>102483015
>>102483015
>>102483015

>>102482973
VShojo stole all of Vei's money.
This is why she had to marry Soda so that she can get money from him in order to keep feeding her family

SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE THE NOVAS

I knew it was over but I didn't think it was THIS over

Bakers ready?

>>102480503
idk about his employment status by vshojo (I don't think so) and I doubt even more if he worked for another vtuber company, but even then, he was in their orbit literally before the company started so it's not a new hire

>>102482947
yeah chat VSHOJO should PAY :)

>>102482947
You just made me realize that Asmon is probably going to react to the Mouse video. I am not looking forward to that.

>ex-vshogods intelligently discussing and theorycrafting over current matters
>mongrel holoFAGGOTS enter and shit up the thread with their lower than their countrys average temperature iq inane drivel
OUT

>>102483034
or they donate too much. probably not in her case.

>>102483034
Worse she's a Europoor. They never donate.

>>102483034
based vei. not subbed, no turbo, adblock on (premium version, pirated), unverified windows OS, streaming from boyfriends internet. that's my oshi.

>>102483071
Nah his dad is dying so he's not gonna stream maybe ever again

>>102482896
Don't forget about our girl Yuvi

>>102483085
It's one or the other extreme.

>>102482472
my money is on it being the vsj jp talents and henya

>>102481872
Weren't the girls not only against him but also canceled him when he warned Vshojo about a security breach?

>>102483042
They make money and then don't immediately spend it all

>>102483150
yes but if he doesn't ignore that then he can't spitefully take advantage of this drama

>>102483132
please don't give me hope

>>102482472
>>102482473
Remember when Zen donated to some small corpo streamer so she could buy the rights to her model? Zen is so cool.

>>102483042
bro these are top tier streamers
they make 10k easy

>>102483150
I'm glad these dumbass rrats are coming to an end.

>>102483155
>>102483269
I mean normal people like you

oh no

>>102483216
he absolutely should laugh at the downfall

>>102483041
Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, anything striking based. You just strike the nose over and over again with all you got and hope the bear backs off. Bears have sensitive noses, their sense of smell is even better than a dogs. Nose is the only thing that works, they don't really even care if you get them in the eye, they just get more mad.

I think there's a video of a guy surviving a bear attack by kicking it in the face on some cliff.

>>102483391
Normal people like us aren't the ones sending in thousands of dollars