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Anonymous No.102485006 >>102485395 >>102485447 >>102485811 >>102485862 >>102486171 >>102487454 >>102487633 >>102488225 >>102488371 >>102488745 >>102488840 >>102488912 >>102489971
Total VShojo collapse
Right after the Mousey video, Kuro, Michie, Amalee, Froot and Kson have removed any mention of VShojo from their Twitter profile (except for the checkmark but that will automatically be gone after official announcement)
Anonymous No.102485354 >>102485720 >>102487753
From Tectone's "ninja village" analogy, one of the ex-niji (ex)vshojo members told him about the 60%
Anonymous No.102485395 >>102485795
>>102485006 (OP)
Is this the fastest corpo downfall ever?
Anonymous No.102485447 >>102486117
>>102485006 (OP)
It has never been more over for VShojo than it is now. Way to make the NijiEN collapse look like a tea party.
Anonymous No.102485720 >>102485960
>>102485354
>60%
What is this about? Their cut?
Anonymous No.102485795
>>102485395
MSM's was about as quick, but this might be slightly quicker
Anonymous No.102485811
>>102485006 (OP)
Amalee never had it in her name
Anonymous No.102485858 >>102485963 >>102486260 >>102488749
How fucked are they???
Anonymous No.102485862
>>102485006 (OP)
time for people who did bad stuff to get away with it.
Anonymous No.102485960 >>102486117 >>102486137 >>102486324 >>102486612 >>102489893
>>102485720
Apparently VShojo took 60% of revenue from talents, which is a crazy statement because VShojo themselves had said that they only take money from merch and 100% of stream revenue goes to the talents. Not only that, Kson herself said during the Niji 2% fallout that Hololive took 50% from her, meaning VShojo somehow took more money than Hololive with this new info
Anonymous No.102485963 >>102486962
>>102485858
Gunrun better have a swiss bank account.
Anonymous No.102485993
now they need to get rid of the vshojo cursemark
Anonymous No.102486056 >>102489817
And Henya just took references to Vshojo off her Twitch page
Anonymous No.102486117 >>102487424
>>102485447
It's wild how vshojo had to pull an actual trump move of stealing from charity to make NijiEN look not so bad for the shit they pulled. And they almost drove Selen to kill herself.

>>102485960
Wonder if any vshojo talents will try to apply for Hololive now, will they all just go indie or try to form a cofederate vtuber group with everyone who's not compromised in Vshojo.
Anonymous No.102486137 >>102486401 >>102489378
>>102485960
Maybe bigger streamers like kson had better deals? That's kinda scummy.
Anonymous No.102486171 >>102490811
>>102485006 (OP)
is this the end of the vshojo janny?
Anonymous No.102486260 >>102487411 >>102487490
>>102485858
This event makes me wonder what skeletons hes hiding.
Anonymous No.102486324 >>102486468
>>102485960
I don't know how they could've been somehow keeping that a secret. I think some wires are getting crossed here.
Anonymous No.102486401
>>102486137
It's more likely he's talking out of his ass or confusing something. Because it doesn't match what members other than kson said.
Anonymous No.102486468
>>102486324
Geega once made fun of a chatter for implying Vshojo takes anywhere close to 50% because if they did she wouldn't have joined
Anonymous No.102486581 >>102486674 >>102486758 >>102486800 >>102486848 >>102487240
Think Melody will quit VShojo too?
Anonymous No.102486612 >>102489218
>>102485960
Kson/Coco has been open about Hololive taking 50% long before 2% was revealed

https://streamable.com/k9y6tb
Anonymous No.102486674 >>102486853 >>102487136
>>102486581
Wasn't she the founder or something?
Anonymous No.102486758
>>102486581
I'm pretty sure every talent who CAN quit is going to. If anyone is under contract they are kinda stuck unless they graduate.
Anonymous No.102486800
>>102486581
She’s going to get the most hate… and yet she’s the porn queen of the group.
Anonymous No.102486848
>>102486581
She said she was gonna be sick and already removed it from her name and header
Anonymous No.102486853
>>102486674
Well, if she's the only one left... probably best to quietly make an exit instead of attaching a dead brand to herself.
Anonymous No.102486859 >>102486977 >>102487010 >>102487128 >>102487153 >>102489886
BROS!
Anonymous No.102486962
>>102485963
Gunrun hasn't been with the company since May, even if he ends up being criminally liable due to the company's LLC status he can't be held financially liable.
Anonymous No.102486977
>>102486859
She will definitely join another corpo but I don't know if she's interested in joining another western one.
Anonymous No.102487010 >>102487099 >>102487153 >>102487157 >>102487168 >>102487187 >>102487481 >>102487745 >>102489438
>>102486859
Watch out Phasebros. If VShojo has skeletons in closet, so can yours. Just hope that money remains a non-problem for your agency because apparently all agencies' downfall link with money
Anonymous No.102487099
>>102487010
Sakana owns several businesses doesn't he?
Anonymous No.102487128 >>102489740
>>102486859
LMAO! What a snake. Jumping ship when shit hits the fan.
Anonymous No.102487136
>>102486674
One of the founders, alongside Zen and Mouse
Anonymous No.102487153 >>102487525 >>102488134
>>102487010
>>102486859
Why are you fags obsessing over phase?
Anonymous No.102487157
>>102487010
the phase vtubers are too autistic per capita to develop serious drama desu
Anonymous No.102487168
>>102487010
>mfw phase connect is safe because Sakana already had years to learn how to avoid shady money coming back to bite you in the ass from his pre-phase ventures, unlike most vtuber corpo ceos.
he pre-gamed, the bastard.
Anonymous No.102487187 >>102487232
>>102487010
Sakana literally sold 600k bags of $40 coffee in 2024. They even released an original song about their coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THtZRouHTEw
Anonymous No.102487232 >>102487316 >>102487982
>>102487187
I'm bad with money how good is that
Anonymous No.102487240
>>102486581
https://x.com/ProjektMelody/status/1947440778000867759
Maybe.
Anonymous No.102487247 >>102487533
what the fuck
Anonymous No.102487303
>Cons
>Some?
Anonymous No.102487316 >>102487522
>>102487232
As vtuber merch for a company with at best about 5% of the market share on vtubers, it's fucking fantastic.
Anonymous No.102487377 >>102489815
She's gone too. Imagine waking up to these news, that sucks.
Anonymous No.102487411
>>102486260
Other than fucking kids like any closeted homosexual?
Anonymous No.102487424
>>102486117
Drove Doki to swallow an extra serving of flintstone gummies more like
Anonymous No.102487454 >>102487488
>>102485006 (OP)
So Henya is still in?
Anonymous No.102487481 >>102487741
>>102487010
Sakana is a venture capitalist who is already extremely wealthy and has a pretty close personal relationship with the talents. I don’t think he’d fuck them or Phase over.
All of their drama will remain them being outed as whores or saying something stupid, nothing that will actually sink the brand
Anonymous No.102487488
>>102487454
look 3 posts up anon.
Anonymous No.102487490
>>102486260
Nah I've seen Connor do cross countries across Japan for charity. He's right to be pissed like we are. It hurts everyone when something like this happens because people are less likely to give to future charities if the organizers aren't trustworthy.
Anonymous No.102487522 >>102487822 >>102488913
>>102487316
>5% of the market share on vtubers
more like 0.6%
Anonymous No.102487525
>>102487153
This is a Phase board now.
Anonymous No.102487533 >>102487598
>>102487247
Anonymous No.102487598
>>102487533
bounce on it dayo
Anonymous No.102487633
>>102485006 (OP)
Honestly, I'm starting to think this is all just a PR operation intended to justify certain people leaving VShojo without getting a ton of blame from people schizoposting about the clique at Vshojo.
Anonymous No.102487741 >>102488083
>>102487481
He already has fucked over phase members in the past, if you join as an invader he gets to steal your accounts when you leave. It's why kana and msot invaders didn't use their own accounts after the yuri bullshit, and it's gonna suck for clio and the others who joined with their own accounts like dumbasses if they try to leave.
Anonymous No.102487745 >>102487913
>>102487010
All idiots replying to this
Did you forget what fishman did to Suzuki?
Anonymous No.102487753 >>102487823
>>102485354
>Tectone
out of everyone in the world, why quote the rape apologist?
Anonymous No.102487822
>>102487522
More than what Vshojo has now I guess
Anonymous No.102487823 >>102488036 >>102490499
>>102487753
Tectone is /ourguy/. He rightfully dunks on lolicons and has shit talked Gura and Henya in the past.
Anonymous No.102487913 >>102488399
>>102487745
not sure what you're on about.
Anonymous No.102487982 >>102488059
>>102487232
That's almost a million per talent, yearly, just from the coffee.
if they did literally nothing else and demonitized all their channels that'd still be a shitload of money.
As it is though they have shitloads of merch and donations ontop of that and are opening their own convention to sell even more.

To put this into perspective, that means phase connect is making as much money as a LITERAL gold mine!
Anonymous No.102488036
>>102487823
kill yourself
Anonymous No.102488055
how is this different than your own boss or the government taking most of your paycheck
Anonymous No.102488059 >>102488158 >>102488210
>>102487982
Oh yeah I forgot they're ditching Offkai and making their own con.
Anonymous No.102488083
>>102487741
That was them being retards. He bought those accounts, they sold them. Later invaders didn't sell them.
It's retarded to sell your IP, but then even more retarded to think you can sell a chinese businessman something and then just walk away.
Anonymous No.102488134
>>102487153
Phase hits above it's weight in seethe generation.
Anonymous No.102488158
>>102488059
i dont think they've actually said they're ditching anything, just making their own too. though we'll see.
Anonymous No.102488210 >>102488711 >>102488865
>>102488059
>You now pay directly to sakana for the MariMari meet n greet (max 5 per session)
Anonymous No.102488225
>>102485006 (OP)
>Of course I'm always at Cover's disposal...
>Mr Tanigo
AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.102488239
Mel about to morph vshojo into her own lewdtuber org where they all fap together in Japan. You'll see... Trust the plan
Anonymous No.102488323 >>102488494 >>102488505 >>102488536
qrd?
Anonymous No.102488371 >>102488802
>>102485006 (OP)
How does this work? Aren’t they under contract? Can they just really leave like that?
Anonymous No.102488399 >>102488474 >>102488564
>>102487913
>he doesnt remember Suzuki
Or are you still respecting that stupid "don't talk about it" rule
Fishman deserves to get shitted on for that
Suzuki did nothing wrong
Anonymous No.102488474
>>102488399
You can't legally be forced to work for someone. You can end a contract at any time but you will be subjected to the terms of ending it prematurely
Anonymous No.102488494
>>102488323
VShojo is fucking dead
Anonymous No.102488505 >>102488851
>>102488323
Ironmouse quit. She says Vshojo owes her like $500,000 and also money for her charity. Something like that.
Anonymous No.102488536
>>102488323
vshojo is DEAD
Anonymous No.102488564 >>102489130 >>102489623
>>102488399
i may just be getting PL names wrong, or yeah it may be before my time.
he did nothing wrong with both talents that have left though (ones kiba or whatever, dont know the ex dragons other life), so if it is a staffer or something then yeah i dont know about it.
Anonymous No.102488711
>>102488210
I think you mean min
Anonymous No.102488745
>>102485006 (OP)
>Sports illustrated articles now
Wtf
Anonymous No.102488749
>>102485858
no corpo to wedge consent between her and her walking dildo, pretty sweet deal i'd say
Anonymous No.102488758
It has never been so fucking over.
Not even Nijisanji did this level of fucking evil (that we know of).
Anonymous No.102488802
>>102488371
If both parties agree you can cancel a contract or if one party cannot fulfill their obligations. But we'll see what the official statement from VShojo will be how this proceeds.
VShojo isn't functional anymore. Even staff are supporting the talent's side. So the company can't really do their part of the contract.
Anonymous No.102488837 >>102490193 >>102491416
I just wrote something in another thread that got deleted almost the moment I posted it. Connor, Ironmouse and Vshojo may have got caught mishandling funds and Ironmouse is the first person to lawyer up. How do you NOT know what happened to over 500K dollars for OVER a year??
Anonymous No.102488839 >>102489258
Seeing a bunch of people on twitter coming out and saying "yeah Vshoujo hasn't paid me hundreds/thousands of dollars in paid work yet." And these people never spoke up before why?
Anonymous No.102488840
>>102485006 (OP)
Reminder that Froot is a cheating whore and not a good person.
Anonymous No.102488851
>>102488505
got it backwards, the $500,000 is for the charity and they took an additional undisclosed amount from her accounts
Anonymous No.102488865 >>102489897
>>102488210
Did she just beat the cock? But i thought no one beats the cock?
Anonymous No.102488907
lol
Anonymous No.102488912
>>102485006 (OP)
Kson should just buy out the JP branch and rename it
Anonymous No.102488913 >>102489910
>>102487522
That 0.6% pie chart was from three years ago, it's not a usable number anymore.
Anonymous No.102489056 >>102489160
Mel STILL has it in her name
Anonymous No.102489130 >>102489262
>>102488564
No one named Suzuki has ever been at Phase. It's a joke that someone's been erased a la Stalin.
Anonymous No.102489160 >>102489697 >>102489971
>>102489056
Her and Kson will be the absolute last people to go. They didn't deepthroat smelly Twitch staff dicks to leave their project so quickly
Anonymous No.102489218 >>102489817
>>102486612
But I thought vshojo wasn't like other corpos? What about muh TALENT FREEDOM?
Anonymous No.102489258
>>102488839
Because Mousey is there. She is literally the shield that VShojo needed to escape criticisms and it worked for a year after the Hogwarts fallout

But now that she is gone. There is literally 0 reasons to support VShojo now, and the IP ownership is no longer their scapegoat because what else they could do? Steal Mousey model?
Anonymous No.102489262
>>102489130
thats silly considering we literally already have an ex-talent to do that with.
hell i think ive even literally seen the stalin erasure meme with her before lol.
Anonymous No.102489273
How will the effect the price of vshojo merch? Should I be buying before the price spike?
Anonymous No.102489276 >>102489614 >>102490028
>The glowie knows every possible detail and is first to bark about it
How does anyone still doubt her Fed connections?
Anonymous No.102489378
>>102486137
Kson 100% got a sweetheart deal considering she was the first ex-Holo and was very popular as Coco.
Anonymous No.102489438
>>102487010
The only skeleton in there is Yuri's, and that was a self defense killing
Anonymous No.102489510
Anonymous No.102489614
>>102489276
>If someone isn't streaming as much there's reasons for it even if they can't talk about it
So Nerissa is graduating at the one year?
Anonymous No.102489623 >>102489850 >>102490524
>>102488564
>he did nothing wrong with both talents
Take the white leopard's model was and still is a dick move desu. They were still small at the time so there was no valid reason not to let her go indie again.
Anonymous No.102489697 >>102489971
>>102489160
Kson will be the last one because she bought part of vShojo to run it in Japan
Anonymous No.102489740
>>102487128
>It is the responsibility of the worker to become jobless when your employer goes to jail for embezzling from a charity
How's that boot taste?
Anonymous No.102489815 >>102489949 >>102490954
>>102487377
>Imagine waking up to these news, that sucks.
I'm pretty sure she knew what was happening. Mouse and Henya have been collabing regularly recently amidst this shit and Mouse's mod Roxxy who left with her has been singing Henya's praise.
Also she retweeted this two week old fanart.
Anonymous No.102489817 >>102490103
>>102486056
>And Henya just took references to Vshojo off her Twitch page
VShojo fell apart so quickly that it will go down in the history books of how not to manage a company.

>>102489218
Talent freedom is good for the vtubers but the actual company will burn like a fireworks factory when there is a huge scandal. The idea of a guild for vtubers sounds like a good idea but so far no one has made it work.
Anonymous No.102489850
>>102489623
She sold her IP and broke her contract. Some of the girls are still holding grudges for what she did. It was not an amicable parting.
Anonymous No.102489886
>>102486859
Pippa would have a heart attack and quit vtubing permanently, you can't do that to her
Anonymous No.102489893
>>102485960
Geega said that VShojo takes less than 50%

However, every talent has a unique contract catered to their needs, so the exact cut may differ between talents.
Anonymous No.102489897
>>102488865
Anonymous No.102489910
>>102488913
Yeah, the share certainly would go down.
Anonymous No.102489949
>>102489815
>Mouse's mod Roxxy
I meant manager. She was her mod though.
Anonymous No.102489971 >>102490235
>>102485006 (OP)
>>102489160
>>102489697
as of 3 hrs ago
Anonymous No.102490028
>>102489276
Geega knew vshojo management long before she joined. She first mentioned this back in 2021.
Anonymous No.102490103
>>102489817
I think it's good when companies are structured in a way that they can't survive shit like this. It's not a good sign that Nijisanji survived.
Anonymous No.102490193 >>102490607
>>102488837
>may have got caught mishandling funds
Nah, if you go for the schizo route the most sensible explanation is they got in a fight for what name is on the check for the donation. That is a lot of money in tax deductions.
Anonymous No.102490221 >>102490263 >>102490552 >>102490560
I honestly feel bad for the vshojo fans
I was at AX and met some really nice Vshojo fans
One was even taking care of their relative and you could tell they really liked all the talents
And then this all happens less than a month later
At least when my oshi left hololive, the hololive brand wasn't tainted beyond belief to the point that my previous merch is rendered a badge of shame.
Anonymous No.102490235
>>102489971
oh so it's over, over
Anonymous No.102490263 >>102490378
>>102490221
Good thing Vshojo doesn't own anyone's IP.
Anonymous No.102490294
>vtuber agency that relies entirely on literal porn and ex-holos/nijis bringing their fans is...le bad!?
Anonymous No.102490339 >>102490485 >>102490585 >>102490945
Are we approaching the end of the vtuber agency era as a whole? Big ex-corpos are returning to indie proving they don’t need an agency. Vshojo shit itself. Nijisanji has little to no goodwill left. Any new agency that pops up will probably be highly scrutinized.
Anonymous No.102490378
>>102490263
Alot of the merch I saw had Vshojo plastered across it in a font larger than the talents themselves
Anonymous No.102490485
>>102490339
no, Holo will still be the beacon on the hill. Phase is slotting in as #2 EN corpo and the JPs will do their own thing.
Anonymous No.102490499
>>102487823
You must be confusing this place with plebbit. Faggot.
Anonymous No.102490524
>>102489623
nah all signs point towards her being in the wrong.
maybe not unforgivably, but still in the wrong.
Anonymous No.102490552
>>102490221
The good thing is that we follow more the talent more than the corpo, so no change. It will be hard to really create a space where we don't have a name other than the talent, so yeah
Anonymous No.102490560
>>102490221
Yeah, Mouse kind of just ruined VShojo and all of their fans at this point.
Anonymous No.102490584 >>102490636
It's so fucking funny to see the corp blow up in Kson's face. She threw so much shit at Hololive on her way out and rimjobbed an org that turned out to be much much worse. What a fucking dumb retard.
Anonymous No.102490585 >>102490856
>>102490339
Ex-corpos are famous BECAUSE they are ex-corpo.
Anonymous No.102490607 >>102491057 >>102491255 >>102491459
>>102490193
Come on, like that's never happened before among groups dealing in corruption. It's schizo NOT to think that's happening right now. Why lawyer up, if you have nothing to hide? How did Ironmouse not know about the non-payment towards her favorite charity for a year? This is fraud, plain and simple.
Anonymous No.102490636
>>102490584
>She threw so much shit at Hololive on her way out and rimjobbed an org that turned out to be much much worse.
Not wrong, the org was definitely much worse than what YAGOO ran. At least YAGOO tried to make a place where they didn't steal everyone's money
Anonymous No.102490811
>>102486171
maybe he shoulda been THE GUNRUNNER this entier time
Anonymous No.102490856 >>102491185
>>102490585
But if no corpos exist anymore then the indies with big numbers are basically new the corpos.
Anonymous No.102490945
>>102490339
No. There is a demand for orgs among the vtubers themselves. Not everyone wants to or has the capacity to run their own business.
Anonymous No.102490954
>>102489815
>Mouse and Henya have been collabing regularly recently
That's disgusting. Henya has truly been corrupted.
Anonymous No.102490960
>spend on gacha
>company grows
>spend money on charity
>company collapses

gachekeks won
Anonymous No.102491057
>>102490607
Even Ironmouse's video reeked of desperation and guilt. Why start out the video with her crying about not being paid and THEN making a point about her favorite charity not being paid? You'd think if you really put your faith behind a charity that saved your life, you'd ask, hey, has the money gone towards the charity, at least once a week? Why would you put blind faith on over 500K dollars like that? No, you could tell Ironmouse was trying to get in front of something big that's about to be revealed through the courts. Might as well try to save face now before your entire brand is nuked from orbit with the truth.
And then she has the audacity to ask her followers to donate to the charity AFTER the fact? She's trying to earn karma points before she goes down. The writing's on the wall, and they're all in on it. Why would you be so concerned about an ENTIRE company's financial future, UNLESS you knew they were doing some shady shit behind the scenes? :>
Anonymous No.102491185
>>102490856
And the smaller ones will want to be affiliated with the bigger ones to get some strength.
Or the smaller ones will band together and create a corpo to get stronger attention as a group.
Gee, almost like how civilisation/government keeps coming into existence.

'The individual can, in that condition which is anterior to the state, act with fierceness and violence for the intimidation of another creature, in order to render his own power more secure as a result of such acts of intimidation. Thus acts the powerful, the superior, the original state founder, who subjugates the weaker. He has the right to do so, as the state nowadays assumes the same right, or, to be more accurate, there is no right that can conflict with this. A foundation for all morality can first be laid only when a stronger individuality or a collective individuality, for example society, the state, subjects the single personalities, hence builds upon their unification and establishes a bond of union. Morality results from compulsion, it is indeed itself one long compulsion to which obedience is rendered in order that pain may be avoided'.
Anonymous No.102491231 >>102491492
Just sign Saba and get all your money back in 2 days
ez
Anonymous No.102491255 >>102492862
>>102490607
>Why lawyer up, if you have nothing to hide?
Its pretty standard to get a lawyer if the company you work for isn't paying you.
Anonymous No.102491369 >>102491606 >>102492587
That green parrot fuck is going to have a fucking stroke
Anonymous No.102491416 >>102492862
>>102488837
>How do you NOT know what happened to over 500K dollars for OVER a year??
Ironmouse said that Vshojo handled her payments. The money from Twitch likely went to a bank account managed by Vshojo not her. They were in charge of compensating her accordingly.
Anonymous No.102491458
>VShojo bills itself as a "talent first" agency
Anonymous No.102491459 >>102492862
>>102490607
>why lawyer up if you have nothing to hide

Would you let the government put a tracking chip that reads your mind in your brain?
Anonymous No.102491492
>>102491231
They should rebrand themselves as VShonen and hire shotas.
This is 100 million dollar idea
Anonymous No.102491553
Kson is pissed.
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1947497434688720905
Anonymous No.102491606 >>102491850 >>102492587
>>102491369
you think he has a shred of loyalty? content is content, he's probably salivating.
Anonymous No.102491850 >>102492587
>>102491606
thats not salivating, he's having a seizure anon
Anonymous No.102492587
>>102491850
>>102491606
>>102491369
He wanted to be out of the Niji mines. The finger on the monkey's paw curled.
Anonymous No.102492862
>>102491255
It's also pretty standard to get ahead of a situation, lawyer up and did what she did. Come on, it's clear as day and I don't even follow this vtuber stuff. It's fraud.
>>102491416
So Ironmouse was completely oblivious to what happens to her money. I doubt that. No one's that naive. If she can put a subathon together, she can track where the money went. Looks like she didn't. Oops.
>>102491459
>Would you let the government put a tracking chip that reads your mind in your brain?
What the hell did you write that for? Are you retarded?
Man, it's business. People commit fraud. They get caught. That's what's happening right now. Simple as! Good Lord. lol